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- I install a Bradley performance rear disc kit on my 2006 TW200. I also go over what i think of the kit and my thoughts on improvements that can be made to the kit.
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Just to chime in and give everyone an update, thanks to people in the field that help us find issues that need to be addressed, we have made several changes to update this kit. We have made necessary changes to the hub design, the disc itself, and the brake hose. We want everyone to feel good about the products they buy from us. Thanks again for all of your support and feedback! Couldn't do it without you!
any chance to provide early buyers at a minimum a discounted price at the new parts?
congratulations on making the changes so quick
I just compared my rear fat-tire conversion (not re-using factory wheel/hub) to see if my new hub adapter seats centrically- either with a groove, shoulder, something, and I don’t see how my adapter will remain centered either. There is play in the 3 screws that secure the adapter to the hub conversion, and duplicate the concerns in this video regarding lack of centricity. The disc does appear to have a place to seat compliments of a raised rib on my adapter, yet still appear be “backwards” as mentioned , as every other disc I own faces the grooves the other way as well. Flipping the disc still allows for centricity, yet negates the recesses that would hold the disc screws to the adapter.… I’m weary now to move ahead with this kit as it stands… Thoughts Bradley? I understand this is a work in progress and am by no means bashing the design phase- simply curious how I can correct for these issues post purchase?
I really freaking want this kit!! Please keep us updated when it will be fine polished and ready to buy! 👍
Great decision! That’s the American way to do business! It’s great that you in essence collaborated together!
I’ll buy the updated kit!
Thanks to this vid, got mine installed in little more than an hour. My suggestion is add a seal to keep the dirt away from the bearing, it would take a little machining on the aluminum hub.
Just got my kit for Christmas from my awesome wife. It appears as if the hub is redesigned! I'll be doing an install video really soon.
Just wanted to say, I got this kit for Christmas. Install went perfect, the hub is redesigned and centered just right and the brake line was out of the way for me. I do think I may do some sintered iron pads just because I'm not a fan of organic pads on dirt bikes. Shout out to Bradley for fixing this kit up! My drum brakes were terrible.
Glad you are happy with the updated kit.
@@TDub_ADV yes sir. Appreciate your videos man
Great video, thank you for doing this. Huge respect.
Solid advice/information. I am glad you went through the entire process. The hub alignment and disk is alignment is very much essential. I really hope Bradley takes the advice from you and makes a safer product for the consumer.
Hi there I do fab work my self and when I saw the kit I thought the same thing ,but very good you pointed it out to the buyers any way glad to see that Bradley fixed it. great guy.
Great information for someone considering buying a kit. Don’t think I’ll be getting one anytime soon. Thanks
Great insight as a fabricator, thanks for your input. I am new to TW200 but not to motos. I wanted a hydro rear brake, and have found my solution.
Great video these are all the changes I will make..
Wanted to try the R1 but I think it will be a little more work
Noice 👍🏼🤠love the adapter you made
Good job! Looks like I may need this for my '95!
Good suggestions on needed changes as well!
I wonder if an internal spacer for adapter and disk would work.
Had major issues with install, could not get brake to bleed properly, using vac brake kit, pumping brake fluid from caliper back to master cylinder still couldnt get it,finally dealer got it to bleed as they stated air was trapped in caliper. All was working good then brake tightened up for unknown reason, warped rotor and ruined pads, had to buy new rotor and pads from Bradley. Now Ive lost brakes, on the stand brake work good but in the field not much braking power. 2nd issue was trying to mount with the Bradley big wheel kit, cannot get caliper on/off rotor with rim supplied by Bradley for big wheel kit, tried to hoist back end and just slip rear wheel out as not enough room between rim and caliper mount. Have to loosen rotor bolts, easy enough to take apart but re-installation is not easy. Oh yea nad stripping the rotor bolts is an issue, be careful.
Hi, his rear wheel kit is the same way he needed to put pilots on the flanges for the rim and sprocket and drum or disc kit.
I bought the kit for my TW, and the only issue that I had was bleeding the air out of the brake fluid. I went online and found 2 banjo bolts that had bleeders built into them. This worked awesome. I also did the sintered bronze pads. I did not like the brake action with the stock pads, but after I installed the sintered bronze pads, I noticed a remarkable difference. I do indeed love my rear disc. I absolutely HATED the squeaky squawky poor rear drum brakes.
Fantastic. Glad its working out for you. I'm guessing you got one of the newer kits?
Im not a fan of the drum either but alas mine is back on the bike. As i feared the original adapter moved around in use and i had to re-center it multiple times in a pretty short amount of miles. Not something i wanted to fiddle with constantly so off it came...
@@TDub_ADV Are you saying the the disc would not run exactly true, like it would wobble a little? Would that make the brake less effective? Look at some of the discs on bikes, they are not even round. They have a wavy outside edge, and they work just fine. I have never checked to see if my disc is perfect or not, but it does work so well. I even extended my brake cam actuating lever to exert more pressure to the shoes, and it was still horrible. I will never go back to the drum.
I will check to see if my disk is exactly centered. Either way, I will continue to use it, because it works so well. Would your disc brake not work? I am sorry, I just don't understand maybe.
@@BuilderofRat As explained in the last part of this video, the entire assembly would run off center from the wheel and make the rear wheel hop and upset the rear end of the bike. I have owned bikes with wavy disc's but the difference is the center line of said wavy disc is turning on the same axis as the wheel is. When the adapter would move the disc was moving in an elliptical pattern in relation to the wheel's axis.
Not sure but BuilderofRat do you have the newly designed/corrected eccentric version?
Thanks for the info TDub_ADV and yes I understood your comment about the newer version🏁
@@Fateracing I have no idea. I must have, because I do not have any issues with the disc needing to be trued up.
I would think that Bradley would have supplied TDub-ADV with an updated version. They seem like a good outfit. After using the disc for a while, it would hurt my heart to put the drum set up back on.
I wonder if they make sintered brass brake shoes. I use to do than on my older bikes that did not have discs. It was a remarkable up-grade in brake performance. They warned that if would wear out the center hub, but I never did. If it did, so what. When I worked at a Honda/Yamaha shop, that was one job that I was pretty good at. And, the TW has a bolt on drum, so for it that would not be an issue.
My wallet was ready and then my wallet was not ready. They fix the issue and my wallet is ready. Excellent video.
You could get it centered by measuring from the outside of the rim to the hub in four spots 45 degrees apart from each other around the rim, but unless the inside of the hub is routered to match the pertrusion on the center of the wheel it won't be long before it walks itself out of center anyway. Same thing with the disc, you could measure from the perimeter of the wheel to get it centered, but the play in the mounting holes will just have it walk itself out of center after a few stops. I see that Bradley took your advice and altered the hub to match the wheel. Good job.
That is exactly what happened.... It moved around and I en did up taking the kit off, I never did a follow up video because the kit is sitting in a box in storage.
I'd be a little leery about a zip tie holding that brake line, they rot awful fast and you don't want that line hitting the tire. That hub adapter needs to be redesigned, I spotted the flaws when you first put it on. Is that printed piece plastic? Brakes get hot, can it melt?
My only gripe is the banjo bolt would angle down and run along the swing arm but I think a few mods the rest is nice
I want this kit...Please let us know when this kit is fine tuned and ready to buy!!!
have you sent the extra kit back to gut updated parts?
I would of used the blue loctite 243 because it will be easier to remove later on without heat application.
Hi also have you thought about making that center puck and offering it to buyers that have the old style kit??
No, I did send the plans to a couple guys with 3d printers. In the end while the tool worked good to get it installed the adapter did not stay put which was a worry I had. I ended up taking it off since I did not want o have to mess with it constantly to keep it centered.
@@TDub_ADV ok I thought this when I saw his kit with no pilot on any of his hubs this will happen I like the kit but he needs to redo them I build fat cat kits for the older Honda 3 wheeler and I build buggies I know a little bit about building parts.
@@stevenpleasant5834 Based off the pictures on the website it looks like he has fixed this for kits going forward.
Great video. I agree with everything you said about the rear wheel conversion. I machined an alignment tool for the hub and disc. This worked out great. I also had an issue with the twist of the brake line and ended up doing the same thing you did with flipping the banjo fitting and straightening it so it runs just to the right of the bleeder valve. This kept the line parallel to the swing arm. But now I have a problem with bleeding the system. I have tried gravity feed and also a vacuum pump but can not get the brake caliper/pistons to engage the disc. I even worked with a mechanic and we know we have all the air out of the system but the brake will not engage. Did you have any issues bleeding the system?
No issues for me bleeding the brakes at all. Are the washers on the banjo bolts in good shape still?
@@TDub_ADV They should be because the unit is brand new. Im thinking that maybe there is some trapped air around the master cylinder because I never feel a solid resistance on the brake pedal. Im going to try a bench bleed by breaking the banjo fitting loose at the master cylinder and see if I have any trapped air in the piston. I called Bradley Performance and left a message. Will try again after the 4th. Will keep you posted. Thanks.
@@robertloudenslager1581 Its possible they may have been damaged when you took it apart. They are pretty soft copper and just the act of removing the banjo bolt will sometimes ruin the washers. I always replace them now because i have been bitten by bad washers in the past.
If its not building pressure you either have trapped air or a leak somewhere. its also possible to crack that fitting if your not careful.
@@TDub_ADV Are the copper washers a standard size or specific to the caliper?
@@robertloudenslager1581 They should be standard 10mm size.
Looks 100000 times better then that pesky drum
where did you get the "saftey third" sticker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want some give,give,give
Or you could 3D print the necessary parts and sell them as independent "installation kit" and make some bucks. That's a business opportunity right there.
Nah, better for the adapter design to be fixed. The parts moving potential I pointed out in the video is actually a thing. It happened to mine, it moved more than once in a short amount of miles and I had to re-adjust it so the only fix is to make the parts hub centric to keep it from moving which Bradley Performance did for the current kit.
I ended up taking mine off since I dont want to have to constantly mess with it. Thats why I have not done a follow up.
Can you 3d print me a hub adapter that i can buy from you?
It is made on a CNC machine
Bradley performance can sell the hub separately
@XXXCRSPL thats not what im asking.
He 3d printed an adapter that makes the hub from Bradley Performance centric to the wheel, like the factory hub is from Yamaha. The ring he 3d printed, centers the Bradely Performance hub.
@@fastbanshee1999 I gotcha now I didn't watch the whole video and went back and watched it.. Ya I need 1 too lol
@@XXXCRSPL well i would like one too. But are you willing to make it for us?
@@ronaldpalmer3246 No I don't make them