I work as a mechanic in my local municipal fleet shop . We use ford products for police , fire department etc.. I'm a gm truck guy and I can say we have had great reliability with the f250's with the 6.2 . It really is a great reliable engine . Definitely more reliable long term than the 6.7 diesel . I would not hesitate to buy a f250 with the 6.2 gas engine !
Here is why people are considering gas over diesel. In fact the new gas engine for Ford may be a 7.3 v-10. At the price of unleaded and flex fuel. You will never make up the difference in cost for the Diesel engine. At $9000 for the engine and 0.75 per gallon difference as of 1/7/18 in TN. So yes you can tow large travel trailers and hyper lite 5th wheels with 1/2 ton trucks. The axels, gearing and weight allow for it. I suggest getting the best WDH you can afford, Hensley, Blue Ox, or something like that. Good shocks, for your tow vehicle which doesn't have to be a truck. It could be a suburban, Tahoe, or even expedition. These now have max tow packages as well. I highly recommend super springs. I use them on my ram. It eliminates body roll, and supports the factory springs, eliminating bottoming out.
2016 F150 3.5 Eco, 6.5 box, SC, FX4 towing 2016 Sporttrek 327VIK 38 foot TT, 9,000 lbs, Blue OX WDH for the last 2 years . Sits level, no sway. No problems no issues. Goes up hills and goes down. 10 mpg. I'm happy.
I traded in my F150 for a RAM 3500 to pull my 34’ TT. Overkill?? Maybe !! But no more worries of overload. Was able to get it for 48,000. It’s only a tradesman but it’s a mirror image of everything I had in my 2014 F150 XLT. Very pleased with my first diesel.
Ahhh a bit disappointed, I thought this video was going to be about towing? It started off well but then just turned into a Ford review, which is fine just not what I expected.
For the record I honestly believe he would choose a truck that would fit his needs over brand loyalty. Also, I think he regretted not waiting on the 2017 and rushed into a F350. That lead to his final decision to jump to a F450. Y’all just remember how much work it takes to create all the videos before posting any negative feedback.
The first few seconds of this video is exactly me. I have that travel trailer and truck other than mine is just the SV trim. My Reflection trailer is 38’ and 8990 lbs. Without the WDH my truck drops 2 1/2”. Stays level with the WDH.
I have been towing my 25' Keystone RV trailer with a 2019 Ford Ranger Lariat 4x4 (2.7L Ecoboost) .. and so far it has been doing very very well. It is a bit smaller truck, but we were able to deck it out for less money than an F150. Plus, it is nicer and easier to drive for daily use. It is easier to park than an F150, but nearly as roomy inside. The Ranger isn't as powerful as the F150, but does boast 309HP with a whole lot of torque. So far, our Ranger has been perfect for our RV trailer setup.
Hopefully in part two you get into the numbers of why a 250/2500 is a better option for twoing large trailers over a 150/1500. Too many people only look at the max tow rating and nothing else when buying these trucks. I just had a friend get a new F150 instead of a F250 gasser because he thinks the F150 tows almost as much as a F250. He is towing a 30' toy hauler and has had issue getting his truck level due to the lack of payload on the F150.
Yep, and they forget to count their passengers. When I bought my F150 5 years ago the kids were little. THey're adult sized now. Had to move to a 250 for this year. I got away with it last year by having two family members follow in a car. This was with a 4700lb dry TT. Less than half the towing capacity for the truck allegedly.
We have a 2017 Jayco that is 36 feet. Empty weight is 9110 and I use a 96 F350 dually with the Powerstroke and 5 speed. It does well with the trailer but the older the truck the less capable it is since they have made newer truck much more powerful and capable. Our trailer is actually close to the capacity even though I have a diesel dually.
You never awswered your own question, you just turned into an infomercial for Auto Nation. This is why channels like AVE are so popular, no paid endorsements.
Marcos Goulart he definitely is a Ford guy at heart you can always tell when he does his reviews of Ford he goes over the top but keep in mind he gets a new truck every two years even though I love his videos for the most part I always make sure I ignore any of his reliability conversation simply because he never puts any of those trucks to the test
Agree that this video is mostly about this particular F-250 but if you watched the entire video you'd have heard him talk about comparable 2500 series trucks from RAM and Chevy/GMC.
I watched some of the video. I’m towing with a Ram 1500, the trailer I bought last year was previously towed with a Ford F-150. The 2014 Ram I’m using has the 5.7 Hemi gas engine with automatic trans, plus tow haul. The truck was ordered with the tow package and a 3.92 rear gear ratio which really helps. If you don’t know what your gear ratio is, call your dealer parts department and give them your vin number, they will tell you. I’m towing a travel trailer with a 6200lb dry weight and 32ft overall length. No airbags on the rear axle of the truck, I just use a good equalizer hitch with sway control. It’s a good setup but I wish I had a dually for towing on windy days!!
I love the 20” wheels . . . UNTILLLLLLL . . . I have to replace the tires. Uggghh! I’ll take 18’s all day as there are SO many tire options for less than equivalent 20’s. I’m regretting putting the OEM black 20’s on my RAM, with replacement looming
I have an f150 . I tow a 35 ft trailer which is 6000 lbs the tongue weigh is around 650 lbs, I use weight distribution bars and the truck sits perfectly level. It swings a little when big rigs pass on the opposite side but not bad. I am getting a gooseneck convertion kit which will improve the towing significantly. I am getting an f250 but I'm waiting for the 2022. But for anything heavier you definitely need to get a bigger truck f250 and up...
Purchased a 2006 Chevy Avalanche 2500LT to pull a camper. A Great 3/4 Ton pickup. Gas Mileage isn't great but wanted something to pull a decent sized travel trailer. Hoping to full time rv living this fall.
A 2500 Avalanche has a GVWR 8,600lbs. Not a HD that has a GVWR 9,200lbs. Payload sticker on drivers door pillar is less than 2,000lbs. This includes all cargo and passengers. 1,000lb. hitch weight, a little cargo and a few passengers a heavy Avalanche is easily overloaded. Use the calculator and read all the articles related to towing here fifthwheelst.com/rvtc_calculator.html A Avalanche is not a great or a 3/4 ton truck, it is a SUT.
I don't know about '18 models. We ordered a '22 XLT. Don't need navigation - Apple CarPlay allows you to use your iPhone as nav. I think they have google integration as well.
I have seen a surge in many similarly equipped trucks - the upper level XLTs. I just bought an F350 XLT long bed for towing my TT with Sync 3, Nav, etc. Just no leather, and I've noticed the upgrades all improve the driving experience/safety of the truck. Many of the options that would take it up to a Lariat are all "nice to have" features. It was hard for me to justify buying up to a Lariat.
Also a gas f250 will have a similar payload to to diesel f350 SRW. Iooked at a platinum f350 Diesel CCLB payload was 3,005. My XLT gas CCLB has a payload of 3,116
It always depends what you are towing, for bang for your buck u can get a new titan Cummins gassed XD of course for that matter that will tow way better than anyhalf ton. If you are towing heavier than that u need a 3/4TON or one ton depending the weight of trailer occupants gear etc.
This truck might work towing a 30 foot RV but only towing on a flat road. If you half to tow in the mountains then you will burn up your brakes going down hill. That’s where the diesel exhaust brake really comes in handy from my understanding.
Don't dis the sunroof. I have one in my truck and my wife has one in her Odyssey. Here in Michigan we only get 3 months of summer and I want the windows down and the sunroof open. Also, living in the frozen north convertibles make no sense so the sunroof is the next best thing.
I traded my 2016 f160 lariat for a 2017 Ram 2500 Tradesman Cummins and haven’t regretted it one bit. I tow a 30’ Jayco 26bhs travel trailer around SoCal and that f150, while it had the power, didn’t have good stability. I even had a 1200 equalizer and had it setup perfect. Sometime I wish there was a way to have dealerships be more educated and advise customers to go up to the 3/4 class more than they do. If for no other reason than the safety of their family and the other families on the road. Huge difference towing with a 3/4 truck. Less fancy gadgets is no big deal. I’m safer not playing with them anyway.
Here’s an a reply I just made on a forum where somebody asked about the performance of the F150 2.7 eco. I’m going to go against the grain here. I had a 2016 F150 2.7 supercrew. It had the optional payload package as I custom ordered it. I towed a 2016 Jayco 26bhs that was 30’ end to end and weighed 7100 loaded. I cat scaled it too. The truck pulled it great. Continuously towed it up the mountains of CA including 6500 feet to big bear, 7000 to Yosemite, 6500 feet to Idylwild. After 1.5 years I sold it. Why? Because i didn’t feel safe with my family. While it towed ok and had plenty of power, the stability left much to be desired. I tried everything from adjustments to WDH. A lot of research and always kept tires at 45 PSI max rating. I had an equalizer WDH too. Per cat scale I was only 100 pounds over GVWR. Eventually the stability cause me to trade and I ended up with a Ram 2500 CTD. little more payload (2270 vs 1718), but so much more stable. The ram is limited payload wise only by the arbitrarily rated 10,000 GVWR. you can tell it can handle more but I probably wouldn’t need it anyway. The truck gives me the “cushion” I need now and makes the trip so much more relaxing. After lots of research and experience I would never buy a half ton to tow more than 5000 pounds. The only exception would be if it’s a boat or flat load since aerodynamics come into play. The cost difference isn’t that much and the capability is so much more I highly suggest you test drive both and if you can go with a 3/4 or 1 ton to make sure you don’t trade up quickly. Also watch out for those that have the truck currently and say it towed great. Keep in mind they could be in denial and justifying their purchase. I was that way too. Eventually I caved and finally accepted my truck couldn’t handle the load properly. I’m sure others will disagree and it could be that I just have a lower comfort tolerance than most, but it’s always better to have more truck. I learned the hard way. Here’s a few pics of the truck trailer combo, Weight slips (3-Truck, truck/trailer no WDH, & truck/trailer W/O WDH). Also included pics of my ram hooked up. Haven’t taken that to the scales yet tho. Hope this helps. [IMG]uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/046baccfa4570ff24c3d6fec26da5536.jpg[/IMG][IMG]uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/e565b94df868e09ddd67d752b5f56037.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/593a9215ad3818278747a417a9b0be65.jpg[/IMG][IMG]uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/8276492fa247ab6731e57eee02ddac73.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/d76666638d6db9765478e5cb6f28b03b.jpg[/IMG]
Any 2500 will do the job just fine. And go look at the used market. I got my 08 2500 big horn with 100 000 miles for 18000. It pulls my 28 foot fifth wheel up a mountain multiple times a year with no issues
What about a Chevy Express 3500 Van? How does that compare to a 2500 Silverado for towing large travel trailer? Trying to save money and have a little room for family to spread out during long trips.
Anything 36ft long needs a dually to safely tow. Having the power or capacity to pull something means nothing if you can't safely control it. There's almost no difference in price to get a dually and it makes a massive difference in towing long trailers comfortably. If your gonna tow large or heavy get a dually. As for this video, its a ford commercial no doubt, but i do drive a f350.
8:33 "Don't have cancer yet" lol. I'd have to rate this as your worst justification just cuz it sounds bad. I would want LEDs myself. I just thought this is a comment that was unlike you to say as a justification lol. I would have just left it out. Anyways, I absolutely Love the video and all other videos you make!
I don't think the title question was answered. A good point would have been to freeze the video and show us what the travel trailer guy did wrong. To educate us.
The dealer I had install my WDH didn’t even use a tape measure. I waited until he was done took it home and followed the instructions. Don’t trust the dealer with your safety
Hey brother love the videos keep it up. I have a question. In the process of buying a new truck. Im going to go the route of a DRW Ram 3500. My question is (and pardon my lack of knowledge) will a Ram 3500 megacab with the short bed accommodate a 5th wheel? Thank you.
I have a 08 Mercedes gl320 cdi (diesel) and I hear I need to buy a truck. I have airbags and power is 400lb of torque and hear people are doing fine towing with it. Couple trailer looking at is 4800 dry.
@@alienxyt what makes this paticular truck good for the job is the overload leaf. Sway bar, the full FX4 package. A 3/4 has more weight over a 1/2 and the 6.2 in the superduty will of course have more power in both torque and horsepower than something like a 5.0 f150
Should have titled this F250 add. I'm Team Ford all day long but you didn't talk at all about what size truck for towing travel trailers and why at all.
How do you know how much they'll take off MSRP when you bargain for the truck? I'm in the market for a truck right now and looking for tips for better haggling
First, search for what current incentives are available to you in your area. Those are automatic from the manufacturer, so don't let the dealer game you with them as if it were their own discounts. The second thing you need to do is find invoice pricing for the trucks you're interested in. Also, there is hidden cash used by the dealer to help push a sale. These can be called "Hold Backs", so assume an invoice price still has profit for them, even if they say they're "not making money". This is all stuff you should know before bargaining, and it is all to arm yourself and give an idea where you to need to aim, and what to realistically expect. Another thing don't get emotional about a sale. If you don't feel like you are getting a good deal, then don't be afraid to walk away. Really, it's likely you will need to cross shop anyways.
I just retired and my wife and I are thinking about buying a travel trailer. My tow vehicle is a 2005 Ram Quadcab 1500 with a 4.7. It has a tow package with 3.92 gear. In your opinion, what is the most you would tow with this truck?
Hey man im looking at the same I want a diesel ⛽ but am looking at a 30ft because of covid-19 and having a pitty looking at 6000 lbs dry idk 😶 wet any help
Used superduty with a v10 triton engine or the Chevy-GMC with the 6.0L. Really can't go wrong with either. Both are-were great engines. Ford should have kept a v10.
O thought you would describe the ratios of truck vs load instead you were promoting one vehicle. I trust you most of all and I know you have so much info in other presentations but if you could do one simple weight to engine guide, it would really help.
I’m curious what issues you feel I will have towing a new 38’ jayco 322rlok using a 2018 f150 screw with max tow factory rated at 12,700 mvwr of the trailer is 11,750 (9505 empty) and a hensley hitch? It has the 3.5 with 375hp and 470ftlbs of torq and with twin turbos shouldn’t lose much power at elevation?
I always hate your idea of what a reasonable price is for a truck. People around here live in $50K homes and took out a 30 year mortgage. Gone are the days when truck prices were reasonable.
sdparis1988 where do you live that you can get a home for 50k? Money is all relative. I currently spend 50k over 30 years on my home internet and cell phone for 2 adults .(140x360=50,400).
You do know here in PA they fund the schools with property taxes. I live outside the capitol in a little 1,000 square ft house and pay over 3 g in property tax.
If you're that broke, then why are looking at buying a truck and travel trailer to begin with? Also, "reasonable" is building a truck that sells, and these trucks sell just fine to people with money.
Can i buy a regular ford f150 to haul n li e in a travel trailer? What engine do i need? Do i need a certain truck for a big 20thousand dollar travel trailer?
Hey I am a Ram guy.I keep debating between a 1500 or 2500. I have a 7x14 utility trailer for my construction company. The trailer will max out total with payload and itself 7,000 lbs. Now I tow the trailer to a job site and leave it there for a week to a month. It will be my daily driver aswell. What do you recommend?
Big Truck Big RV I tow max 7,000 once a week to once a month.Wont be able to afford a new truck. A 1500 can tow up to 10,000.But a 2500 Can def do it. Thing is it’s my daily driver aswell.For family
"I'm here at the Ford dealer and it has nothing to do with brand loyalty" translation, yes it does. $51,500 for a two-wheel drive truck, what a deal. Crist, you can do better than this.
How much does it cost when all these extra gadgets go out? I guess some people need this technology just to pull an rev or maybe too find their way back home!! Never needed too pray to the technology god that everyone else needs to go rving!!
I’m able to tow 14k 30foot gooseneck trailer with my 2015 chevy 1500 5.3 I kno I’m Overweight but you kno what the truck gets in done with not one problem I’ve had 12000 pounds pulling hills at highway speeds
what about the towing? Also how about making a video about what you need to on your truck to safely tow a trailer not everyone can afford a 40 to 50 grand new truck and also a trailer.
Can't speak for BTRV but I have one on my F150 which I didn't want. The reason for my not wanting is that I don't use it, it added to the cost of my vehicle, it can break, it can leak and it adds weight which reduces my payload capacity.
They cost $$, take away from your payload (extra weight), and may leak (although hear more of that on Fords than others). I think how often I've used mine and its pretty minimal.
2018 F-250 2WD is 385hp 430ft lbs towing capacity is 12,900 lbs basicly 13000 lbs in a 3/4 Ton Gas configuration. My 2008 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 2WD is 381hp 401ft lbs and towing capacity is 10,800 lbs basicly 11,000 lbs in a gas configuration. Ultimate reliability, resale value, peace of mind, and a hulking performance... idk jack I might just say no to the ford? But the payload on this ford is a whopping 3,940 lbs! So 4,000 lbs is incredible, but the curb weight is not much heavier than my tundra. My tundras payload is 1,680 lbs, pathetic! I'm confused. It's a beautiful truck, but it has those extra numbers I will need if I get a 5th wheel. Help me out
I work as a mechanic in my local municipal fleet shop . We use ford products for police , fire department etc.. I'm a gm truck guy and I can say we have had great reliability with the f250's with the 6.2 . It really is a great reliable engine . Definitely more reliable long term than the 6.7 diesel . I would not hesitate to buy a f250 with the 6.2 gas engine !
YEG Mechanic that's what we need is a person like you that actually works on them and knows
Here is why people are considering gas over diesel. In fact the new gas engine for Ford may be a 7.3 v-10. At the price of unleaded and flex fuel. You will never make up the difference in cost for the Diesel engine. At $9000 for the engine and 0.75 per gallon difference as of 1/7/18 in TN.
So yes you can tow large travel trailers and hyper lite 5th wheels with 1/2 ton trucks. The axels, gearing and weight allow for it. I suggest getting the best WDH you can afford, Hensley, Blue Ox, or something like that. Good shocks, for your tow vehicle which doesn't have to be a truck. It could be a suburban, Tahoe, or even expedition. These now have max tow packages as well.
I highly recommend super springs. I use them on my ram. It eliminates body roll, and supports the factory springs, eliminating bottoming out.
2016 F150 3.5 Eco, 6.5 box, SC, FX4 towing 2016 Sporttrek 327VIK 38 foot TT, 9,000 lbs, Blue OX WDH for the last 2 years . Sits level, no sway. No problems no issues. Goes up hills and goes down. 10 mpg. I'm happy.
I traded in my F150 for a RAM 3500 to pull my 34’ TT. Overkill?? Maybe !! But no more worries of overload. Was able to get it for 48,000. It’s only a tradesman but it’s a mirror image of everything I had in my 2014 F150 XLT. Very pleased with my first diesel.
Hank Savin Better to have more truck than not enough. 👍
Just upgraded my 08 gmc 1500 to 14 ram 2500 with the 6.4 and 4.10 gears to tow my 32ft TT. Can't wait to tow the trailer this year.
Ahhh a bit disappointed, I thought this video was going to be about towing? It started off well but then just turned into a Ford review, which is fine just not what I expected.
For the record I honestly believe he would choose a truck that would fit his needs over brand loyalty. Also, I think he regretted not waiting on the 2017 and rushed into a F350. That lead to his final decision to jump to a F450. Y’all just remember how much work it takes to create all the videos before posting any negative feedback.
The first few seconds of this video is exactly me. I have that travel trailer and truck other than mine is just the SV trim. My Reflection trailer is 38’ and 8990 lbs. Without the WDH my truck drops 2 1/2”. Stays level with the WDH.
I have been towing my 25' Keystone RV trailer with a 2019 Ford Ranger Lariat 4x4 (2.7L Ecoboost) .. and so far it has been doing very very well. It is a bit smaller truck, but we were able to deck it out for less money than an F150. Plus, it is nicer and easier to drive for daily use. It is easier to park than an F150, but nearly as roomy inside. The Ranger isn't as powerful as the F150, but does boast 309HP with a whole lot of torque. So far, our Ranger has been perfect for our RV trailer setup.
Hopefully in part two you get into the numbers of why a 250/2500 is a better option for twoing large trailers over a 150/1500. Too many people only look at the max tow rating and nothing else when buying these trucks. I just had a friend get a new F150 instead of a F250 gasser because he thinks the F150 tows almost as much as a F250. He is towing a 30' toy hauler and has had issue getting his truck level due to the lack of payload on the F150.
Justin Clegg: yes sir
Yep, and they forget to count their passengers. When I bought my F150 5 years ago the kids were little. THey're adult sized now. Had to move to a 250 for this year. I got away with it last year by having two family members follow in a car.
This was with a 4700lb dry TT. Less than half the towing capacity for the truck allegedly.
We have a 2017 Jayco that is 36 feet. Empty weight is 9110 and I use a 96 F350 dually with the Powerstroke and 5 speed. It does well with the trailer but the older the truck the less capable it is since they have made newer truck much more powerful and capable. Our trailer is actually close to the capacity even though I have a diesel dually.
What a good looking truck. Better than my 2014 f150 xlt
Very informative! I look forward to your honest, unbiased information. Now, how about a review on a truck to tow a larger fifth wheel?
Randal Ovcen thank you that's what I've been looking for and all I get is a Dodge or Ford or GMC and don't know
Glad to see this tested. Probably going to be my next truck after my current F150.
You never awswered your own question, you just turned into an infomercial for Auto Nation. This is why channels like AVE are so popular, no paid endorsements.
I didn't get paid anything. I was actually answer a customer question
My God he is a Ford guy. The question of the guy was forgotten and the video became a Ford review.
Marcos Goulart 100% agree
Marcos Goulart he definitely is a Ford guy at heart you can always tell when he does his reviews of Ford he goes over the top but keep in mind he gets a new truck every two years even though I love his videos for the most part I always make sure I ignore any of his reliability conversation simply because he never puts any of those trucks to the test
Agree that this video is mostly about this particular F-250 but if you watched the entire video you'd have heard him talk about comparable 2500 series trucks from RAM and Chevy/GMC.
Allan yeah you're right for about a half a second he referenced other vehicles and then he continued with his full review of an F250 Super Duty!!!!
J Patt you are right, we have to ignore some things he say.
I watched some of the video. I’m towing with a Ram 1500, the trailer I bought last year was previously towed with a Ford F-150. The 2014 Ram I’m using has the 5.7 Hemi gas engine with automatic trans, plus tow haul. The truck was ordered with the tow package and a 3.92 rear gear ratio which really helps. If you don’t know what your gear ratio is, call your dealer parts department and give them your vin number, they will tell you. I’m towing a travel trailer with a 6200lb dry weight and 32ft overall length. No airbags on the rear axle of the truck, I just use a good equalizer hitch with sway control. It’s a good setup but I wish I had a dually for towing on windy days!!
I love the 20” wheels . . . UNTILLLLLLL . . . I have to replace the tires. Uggghh! I’ll take 18’s all day as there are SO many tire options for less than equivalent 20’s. I’m regretting putting the OEM black 20’s on my RAM, with replacement looming
I have an f150 . I tow a 35 ft trailer which is 6000 lbs the tongue weigh is around 650 lbs, I use weight distribution bars and the truck sits perfectly level. It swings a little when big rigs pass on the opposite side but not bad. I am getting a gooseneck convertion kit which will improve the towing significantly. I am getting an f250 but I'm waiting for the 2022. But for anything heavier you definitely need to get a bigger truck f250 and up...
Still would like to see a review of the 7600gvwr f150 3.5 towing a heavy 30ft+ trailer.
All of you complaining about what was NOT talked about, go back and watch it again and pay attention. This video is part 1 in a series.
Purchased a 2006 Chevy Avalanche 2500LT to pull a camper. A Great 3/4 Ton pickup. Gas Mileage isn't great but wanted something to pull a decent sized travel trailer. Hoping to full time rv living this fall.
A 2500 Avalanche has a GVWR 8,600lbs. Not a HD that has a GVWR 9,200lbs. Payload sticker on drivers door pillar is less than 2,000lbs. This includes all cargo and passengers. 1,000lb. hitch weight, a little cargo and a few passengers a heavy Avalanche is easily overloaded. Use the calculator and read all the articles related to towing here fifthwheelst.com/rvtc_calculator.html A Avalanche is not a great or a 3/4 ton truck, it is a SUT.
I don't know about '18 models. We ordered a '22 XLT. Don't need navigation - Apple CarPlay allows you to use your iPhone as nav. I think they have google integration as well.
Depends if it's an ultralite trailer or regular weight. Probably safe to pick up a Mack semi-truck for anything over 3000 lbs.
I have seen a surge in many similarly equipped trucks - the upper level XLTs. I just bought an F350 XLT long bed for towing my TT with Sync 3, Nav, etc. Just no leather, and I've noticed the upgrades all improve the driving experience/safety of the truck. Many of the options that would take it up to a Lariat are all "nice to have" features. It was hard for me to justify buying up to a Lariat.
The 4.30 gears makes a big difference too. That combination is close in power to a diesel from 10-15 years ago
CUTTING EDGE LAWN CARE You are 100% correct.
Thanks. I try to tell people that but they don't understand.
Also a gas f250 will have a similar payload to to diesel f350 SRW. Iooked at a platinum f350 Diesel CCLB payload was 3,005. My XLT gas CCLB has a payload of 3,116
It always depends what you are towing, for bang for your buck u can get a new titan Cummins gassed XD of course for that matter that will tow way better than anyhalf ton. If you are towing heavier than that u need a 3/4TON or one ton depending the weight of trailer occupants gear etc.
This truck might work towing a 30 foot RV but only towing on a flat road. If you half to tow in the mountains then you will burn up your brakes going down hill. That’s where the diesel exhaust brake really comes in handy from my understanding.
Amazing how much more an identical truck cost today (04/23) versus when this video was made.
I tow a 6900# dry tow hauler with my tundra, a property setup WDH and proper tires are a must
That's all the truck you need.
Don't dis the sunroof. I have one in my truck and my wife has one in her Odyssey. Here in Michigan we only get 3 months of summer and I want the windows down and the sunroof open. Also, living in the frozen north convertibles make no sense so the sunroof is the next best thing.
Very nice truck, for a Ford. Nice!
When you review a certain truck could you please put HP and Torque ratings in please.....Thanks for another great video.
Could you please do a review like this one but on the gas 1 ton?
i saw a nissian pathfinder pulling a 20 foot camper on the new jersey turnpike.
Randomized Ok 👍
I traded my 2016 f160 lariat for a 2017 Ram 2500 Tradesman Cummins and haven’t regretted it one bit. I tow a 30’ Jayco 26bhs travel trailer around SoCal and that f150, while it had the power, didn’t have good stability. I even had a 1200 equalizer and had it setup perfect.
Sometime I wish there was a way to have dealerships be more educated and advise customers to go up to the 3/4 class more than they do. If for no other reason than the safety of their family and the other families on the road.
Huge difference towing with a 3/4 truck. Less fancy gadgets is no big deal. I’m safer not playing with them anyway.
Here’s an a reply I just made on a forum where somebody asked about the performance of the F150 2.7 eco.
I’m going to go against the grain here. I had a 2016 F150 2.7 supercrew. It had the optional payload package as I custom ordered it. I towed a 2016 Jayco 26bhs that was 30’ end to end and weighed 7100 loaded. I cat scaled it too.
The truck pulled it great. Continuously towed it up the mountains of CA including 6500 feet to big bear, 7000 to Yosemite, 6500 feet to Idylwild. After 1.5 years I sold it. Why? Because i didn’t feel safe with my family.
While it towed ok and had plenty of power, the stability left much to be desired. I tried everything from adjustments to WDH. A lot of research and always kept tires at 45 PSI max rating. I had an equalizer WDH too. Per cat scale I was only 100 pounds over GVWR.
Eventually the stability cause me to trade and I ended up with a Ram 2500 CTD. little more payload (2270 vs 1718), but so much more stable. The ram is limited payload wise only by the arbitrarily rated 10,000 GVWR. you can tell it can handle more but I probably wouldn’t need it anyway. The truck gives me the “cushion” I need now and makes the trip so much more relaxing.
After lots of research and experience I would never buy a half ton to tow more than 5000 pounds. The only exception would be if it’s a boat or flat load since aerodynamics come into play. The cost difference isn’t that much and the capability is so much more
I highly suggest you test drive both and if you can go with a 3/4 or 1 ton to make sure you don’t trade up quickly. Also watch out for those that have the truck currently and say it towed great. Keep in mind they could be in denial and justifying their purchase. I was that way too. Eventually I caved and finally accepted my truck couldn’t handle the load properly. I’m sure others will disagree and it could be that I just have a lower comfort tolerance than most, but it’s always better to have more truck. I learned the hard way. Here’s a few pics of the truck trailer combo, Weight slips (3-Truck, truck/trailer no WDH, & truck/trailer W/O WDH). Also included pics of my ram hooked up. Haven’t taken that to the scales yet tho.
Hope this helps.
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I am sorry but half the video is about the Ford F-250 NOT towing a big travel trailer safely.
Thank you!
Just wanted to point out LED headlights are less efficient if you live somewhere that gets much snow and ice because they run so cold
It's just a box w wheels. U love the Ford's. Thanks for
review
Any 2500 will do the job just fine. And go look at the used market. I got my 08 2500 big horn with 100 000 miles for 18000. It pulls my 28 foot fifth wheel up a mountain multiple times a year with no issues
Great video - just bought a new F150 and prob paid more than this 250....wish i had seen this a few months ago!
Agree hate sunroofs, don’t know why stealerships put them on every higher end lot truck.
What about a Chevy Express 3500 Van? How does that compare to a 2500 Silverado for towing large travel trailer? Trying to save money and have a little room for family to spread out during long trips.
When are you going to do a video on your shocks?
It’s the opposite in Hawaii. A lot of people have Chevy, ram 2500 and have a lawn mower in the back.
So I guess if you want to tow a travel trailer you get an F250 Super Duty? When are we going to get a review the 4500 5500 6500 Silverados?
Leslie B 👍😁
They haven’t come out
Flat land?? I tried that in the mountains and was shocked. Need a Super Duty for sure.
As soon as I get my hands on one
Big Truck Big RV 👍
Anything 36ft long needs a dually to safely tow. Having the power or capacity to pull something means nothing if you can't safely control it. There's almost no difference in price to get a dually and it makes a massive difference in towing long trailers comfortably. If your gonna tow large or heavy get a dually. As for this video, its a ford commercial no doubt, but i do drive a f350.
8:33 "Don't have cancer yet" lol. I'd have to rate this as your worst justification just cuz it sounds bad. I would want LEDs myself. I just thought this is a comment that was unlike you to say as a justification lol. I would have just left it out.
Anyways, I absolutely Love the video and all other videos you make!
U can find one a few years older(6 years old or so) with less than 100t miles for less than half that.
Ahhh, the prices of yesteryear😂. I was looking at F150’s at the dealer today. F150 XLT 4X4 $63,400. Prices are beyond ridiculous.
I don't think the title question was answered. A good point would have been to freeze the video and show us what the travel trailer guy did wrong. To educate us.
Thank u for the info I'm looking at the 250 now
the fact that $44,000 is not that bad for a Truck just shows that there are too many damned yuppies driving them, driving up the prices.
The dealer I had install my WDH didn’t even use a tape measure. I waited until he was done took it home and followed the instructions. Don’t trust the dealer with your safety
Hey brother love the videos keep it up. I have a question. In the process of buying a new truck. Im going to go the route of a DRW Ram 3500. My question is (and pardon my lack of knowledge) will a Ram 3500 megacab with the short bed accommodate a 5th wheel? Thank you.
yes, but you need to be sure that the fifth wheel is designed for a short bed AND/OR use a slider hitch.
Good video and he could have done this video for chevy or dodge. Bottom line is basic equipment and usage and did discuss the other trucks.
I have a 08 Mercedes gl320 cdi (diesel) and I hear I need to buy a truck. I have airbags and power is 400lb of torque and hear people are doing fine towing with it. Couple trailer looking at is 4800 dry.
great info!
What Size Truck For Towing Travel Trailer? Did I miss something 😂😂
Me too! I was wondering to myself too if he ever says what makes a truck good for the job.
@@alienxyt what makes this paticular truck good for the job is the overload leaf. Sway bar, the full FX4 package. A 3/4 has more weight over a 1/2 and the 6.2 in the superduty will of course have more power in both torque and horsepower than something like a 5.0 f150
Really any 3/4 ton because more truck is gonna be better than not enough
Should have titled this F250 add. I'm Team Ford all day long but you didn't talk at all about what size truck for towing travel trailers and why at all.
You can get into the truck for the mid to low 40s? Try that today. LOL
How do you know how much they'll take off MSRP when you bargain for the truck? I'm in the market for a truck right now and looking for tips for better haggling
First, search for what current incentives are available to you in your area. Those are automatic from the manufacturer, so don't let the dealer game you with them as if it were their own discounts.
The second thing you need to do is find invoice pricing for the trucks you're interested in. Also, there is hidden cash used by the dealer to help push a sale. These can be called "Hold Backs", so assume an invoice price still has profit for them, even if they say they're "not making money". This is all stuff you should know before bargaining, and it is all to arm yourself and give an idea where you to need to aim, and what to realistically expect.
Another thing don't get emotional about a sale. If you don't feel like you are getting a good deal, then don't be afraid to walk away. Really, it's likely you will need to cross shop anyways.
Thank you very much for the advice!
Wow! That's 44k discounted not counting cost if rd unless you own it already.
I just retired and my wife and I are thinking about buying a travel trailer. My tow vehicle is a 2005 Ram Quadcab 1500 with a 4.7. It has a tow package with 3.92 gear. In your opinion, what is the most you would tow with this truck?
I don’t have the funds for a 250 or 2500. How much trailer can I safely pull with a 1/2 ton?
Hey man im looking at the same I want a diesel ⛽ but am looking at a 30ft because of covid-19 and having a pitty looking at 6000 lbs dry idk 😶 wet any help
Used superduty with a v10 triton engine or the Chevy-GMC with the 6.0L. Really can't go wrong with either. Both are-were great engines. Ford should have kept a v10.
Can you please explain the overload leaf and the rear sway bar
O thought you would describe the ratios of truck vs load instead you were promoting one vehicle. I trust you most of all and I know you have so much info in other presentations but if you could do one simple weight to engine guide, it would really help.
I have a 2002 1500 last Chevy Silverado what kind of camper can it pull
I'm looking for this f250 6.2 with the camper pkg
It's an old vedio I know but I wish I could find out what the big advantage is for towing with the camper package
I’m curious what issues you feel I will have towing a new 38’ jayco 322rlok using a 2018 f150 screw with max tow factory rated at 12,700 mvwr of the trailer is 11,750 (9505 empty) and a hensley hitch? It has the 3.5 with 375hp and 470ftlbs of torq and with twin turbos shouldn’t lose much power at elevation?
I always hate your idea of what a reasonable price is for a truck. People around here live in $50K homes and took out a 30 year mortgage. Gone are the days when truck prices were reasonable.
sdparis1988 where do you live that you can get a home for 50k? Money is all relative. I currently spend 50k over 30 years on my home internet and cell phone for 2 adults .(140x360=50,400).
Id love to see a $50k house that was livable anywhere in NE!!
You do know here in PA they fund the schools with property taxes. I live outside the capitol in a little 1,000 square ft house and pay over 3 g in property tax.
I agree. Ridiculous. Get a used vehicle and save big 💰.
If you're that broke, then why are looking at buying a truck and travel trailer to begin with? Also, "reasonable" is building a truck that sells, and these trucks sell just fine to people with money.
Can i buy a regular ford f150 to haul n li e in a travel trailer? What engine do i need? Do i need a certain truck for a big 20thousand dollar travel trailer?
Hey I am a Ram guy.I keep debating between a 1500 or 2500.
I have a 7x14 utility trailer for my construction company.
The trailer will max out total with payload and itself 7,000 lbs.
Now I tow the trailer to a job site and leave it there for a week to a month.
It will be my daily driver aswell.
What do you recommend?
if you need to tow alot I would suggest the 2500 with the Cummins. You can probably get a well spec'd tradesman for under $36k
Big Truck Big RV I tow max 7,000 once a week to once a month.Wont be able to afford a new truck.
A 1500 can tow up to 10,000.But a 2500 Can def do it.
Thing is it’s my daily driver aswell.For family
with the diesel cummins engine they want almost 45k
"I'm here at the Ford dealer and it has nothing to do with brand loyalty" translation, yes it does. $51,500 for a two-wheel drive truck, what a deal. Crist, you can do better than this.
Ross Carter - It was a 4 wheel drive truck not 2 wheel drive. Watch the video again I missed a couple things myself.
I paid $3500 for my F150 used. You'll never catch me financing a vehicle ever again for the rest of my life.
To simplify . The Bigger the Truck..the Better . Just be prepared for Extreme Sticker Shock .
I don't like sunroof either.
Diesel or gas for a landscape company pulling 3 day a week a dump trailer with 5000 to 8000 pounds and enclosed trailer 3 days around 5000 pounds.
Does anyone make a truck with nice soft comfortable seats for long hauls any more? I can't find one...
LED lights are not very good in the snow or fog.
How much does it cost when all these extra gadgets go out? I guess some people need this technology just to pull an rev or maybe too find their way back home!! Never needed too pray to the technology god that everyone else needs to go rving!!
Damn straight!! I have a '00 V10 F250. No stupid crap on it
How easily we get bluffed into thinking we are talking about towing but then ,bam!
I want it!!!
I’m able to tow 14k 30foot gooseneck trailer with my 2015 chevy 1500 5.3 I kno I’m Overweight but you kno what the truck gets in done with not one problem I’ve had 12000 pounds pulling hills at highway speeds
This is truck looks like a spaceship that will fall apart in 5 years.
What is wrong with a sunroof? I don’t want one in a sports car, for body integrity, but why not in a truck?
Good video
what about the towing? Also how about making a video about what you need to on your truck to safely tow a trailer not everyone can afford a 40 to 50 grand new truck and also a trailer.
So how did this become a review of a new F250 and not answer any questions?
Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi all day long
The F 250 🍺 Cheers
why don't you like sunroof????
Can't speak for BTRV but I have one on my F150 which I didn't want. The reason for my not wanting is that I don't use it, it added to the cost of my vehicle, it can break, it can leak and it adds weight which reduces my payload capacity.
quincy 7143, I wondered the same thing. Maybe extra cost to maintain. Or is it a structural issue?
I would think structural
My 2016 F-150 platinum just spent four days at the dealership getting a new sunroof track. Sunroof no bueno!
They cost $$, take away from your payload (extra weight), and may leak (although hear more of that on Fords than others). I think how often I've used mine and its pretty minimal.
What kind of rear dif was it?
2018 F-250 2WD is 385hp 430ft lbs towing capacity is 12,900 lbs basicly 13000 lbs in a 3/4 Ton Gas configuration. My 2008 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 2WD is 381hp 401ft lbs and towing capacity is 10,800 lbs basicly 11,000 lbs in a gas configuration. Ultimate reliability, resale value, peace of mind, and a hulking performance... idk jack I might just say no to the ford? But the payload on this ford is a whopping 3,940 lbs! So 4,000 lbs is incredible, but the curb weight is not much heavier than my tundra. My tundras payload is 1,680 lbs, pathetic! I'm confused. It's a beautiful truck, but it has those extra numbers I will need if I get a 5th wheel. Help me out
26' trailer from bumper to coupler. Do you recommend I tow it with a midsize or half-ton?
Half ton is plenty fine. I have a f150 that tows a 33ft like nothing
I have a ecoboodt though
what size truck for towing a travel trailer?? any truck but a Tundra 4x4...
What happen to giving us the payload and towing numbers and for that matter it's 5th wheel towing number????????
Look it up at a dealer near you. XLT CC gasser at least 2,800lbs.