What size truck for towing Travel Trailer?? Part 2
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The question I was specifically asked was if I could do a video on a lower trim package 3/4 ton truck that would be a safe option for towing a 36' 8500lb travel trailer. I tried to get in a 2018 RAM and a 2018 Chevy before going to my Ford contact. Both dealerships did not have the truck in the trim I was looking for instock or they were too busy to get the truck I requested. This video was more about mid trim gas trucks and features you can get in them for towing trailers under 10k. Dealerships and Manufacturers pay me nothing to do these videos. It's more about truck availability than anything.
We tow a 35' 9000lb TT with our 2011 F-250 CCSB Lariat FX4 6.2L.
116k on the truck and pulls it like it is brand new. Awesome motors in these things.
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Just clarification. Are you talking UVW, Or GVW when you say 8-10k trailer?
Just a note: the 3.5 twin turbo won’t even know that trailer is there either.
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+Bill Penning That may be true, but you will know the trailer is their and it throws you in the ditch!!
It's great to show people some of the low priced 3/4 tons.
Another great video! I like that you offer all different perspectives on all different brands. Absolutely love my 2018 F-250 STX single cab. plenty of power for a gas 3/4 ton. Great farm truck. Keep up the good work!
Loved the videos! I'm planning on a 18 foot 8 food wide, converted v-nose cargo trailer. So with help from your videos, I think I'll have better luck with a 3/4 ton pickup, rather than a half ton. Thanks a ton for your informative videos!
Thank you for going over the different trim models on the truck that was very helpful.
Thank for sharing.
I owned a 2013 version of that truck, absolutely loved it. Powerful engine, 130k miles with zero problems, as you mentioned awesome brakes. I recently came across an amazing deal on a 2017 Cummins Laramie and couldn't help but upgrade... the pull of this diesel is incredible. You can't go wrong either way, but for the price, I love my Cummins
I’m glad you looked at the payload. That’s where most get in trouble way before they get to max tow.
I agree when you give your suggest towing weights under the max from the manufacturer. People seem to get fixated on how their truck can tow huge numbers. I think they forget you have to turn and stop the load as well. I pull a 8-9000 pound water trailer regularly. I used to do it with a half ton and yes it pulled it but it felt as if the trailer pushed the truck around especially if i wasn't able to completely top off the tank, water sloshing around is a pain. I had no faith that if my trailer brakes failed I could safely stop the trailer. When I switched to a 3/4 ton the ease of towing was drastic. The extra weight of the truck dampens back and forth motions. There is much less stress on the truck and me. Ride was better and more confidence inspiring.
I've got a 2014 F350 with the 6.2 and during harvest i pull a 26,000 pound gooseneck grain trailer (34,000 pound GCWR) and it handles it no problem! With the power of the new gas engines, you dont need those expensive diesels.
So I wouldn't later regret later not getting a diesel? I'm all for buying according to need. During the ownership, a 6.2 should fit the bill.
I've been wanting an F-250 for years after riding in the back to go fishing; I am a big guy so the leg room and comfort was awesome. I have had multiple GMC 1/2 tons for the last several years, crew cabs when my kids were younger but went to an extended cab in 2011 as the kids had their own vehicles. Now we have grandkids and a 9k+ lb travel trailer (bumper pull) which means: 1. I need more space for people (grandkids) and 2. I need more towing capacity as this trailer REALLY taxes the 5.3 V8 in my current Sierra - even though I don't tow it that often.
I still will look at the GM and Dodge products in this space, but really appreciate this (and your other) video(s) as they are another source of info in helping me make an informed decision about what to buy. My timing is to buy something this time next year (Q4 2019 - maybe sooner) if things go according to plan.
PS - I am a Texas Native (from North of Houston an hour - but spent a lot of time along the gulf coast fishing, hunting and such) who is now living in Western NY and REALLY enjoy the videos of South Texas! Makes me home sick.
It would be nice to see the dealers bringing in the 6.2V8 with the 4.30 gears over the 3.73's. Nice trucks. Pretty good values as well.
Good information. I can certainly use it when I go shopping for my truck.
I picked up a 2018 F250 FX4 6.2L like the video yesterday for 43K...so far loving it and will be pulling our Keystone Sprinter 27RL (dry 7,000lbs) in a few weeks. Great video though saw it after I purchased.
How well does it pull your trailer?
Thanks for the good info man learn a lot. Just test drove one, yes the engine sound nice and drove nice.
I like how you were able to show some more basic trim levels, like that XL with the STX package. Bugs me that automaker press fleets always only have the highest end optioned trucks. These more basic optioned trucks are much more realistic for a lot of us. And like you said, these are nice trucks. They have a lot going for them, including plenty of power and comfort.
The 6.2 is a capable engine, I've said it before we've got a 2013 F-350 crew cab dually flat deck truck weighs 12,000lbs the 6.2 has no problems getting the truck to go. It does drink the fuel but none of us has a light right foot either, when it sounds like your driving a mustang you put your foot into it. Its cheap to maintain an oil change is 50 dollars or less to do an oil change on my 6.0 is 250 dollars. If I could swing it right now I would be selling off my 05 F-350 6.0 for a 6.2 F-350 I'm in the process of building a small house to live in so replacing the truck is taking the back seat.
Just bought a 2019 f250 xlt premium ccsb, absolutely love it the 6.2 has plenty of power mileage isn't the greatest though, roughly 14 city, 10 towing about 5k, and 16 highway..would gladly pay for fuel than the maintenance costs of a diesel, also have 10k gvw and tow and plow packages paid $48k not including plow
Now that was a great video! Thanks for this.
I know you are big truck, big rv, but some of us still like the smaller versions and do just fine with those too..:) I've got a nice little 13 F150 Max Tow Ecoboost (#7700 GVWR and #1920 payload) and tow an old 22' #5000 GVWR TT and love it! The trailer is now 16 years old and doing just fine. In the end, it's whatever floats your boat and how you wish to "camp".. I feel this kind of camping is not really camping, but it gets us out of the house and outdoors, so in the end, that's what it's all about. Thanks and keep up the vids.. Nice content.
My STX gasser has the 360 view cameras as well. Pretty neat.
Good video. I would get the XLT
I prefer the XL model. I'd want the camper package though. It's nice that ford gives you the off road package in a less expensive optioned truck
Great video!
Now I know what an stx package is. Upgraded xl. Thx
maxracingteam23: yes sir. Just a trim package for the XL
Definitely a very useful video.
Thanks!
Damn nice truck, I want one.
These trucks with the 7.3 engine will fly off the lots in 2020
They are not
Chip shortage has entered the chat
I also enjoy the 6th seat- I would also go for vinyl seats
Thank you for all of your wonderful and informative videos. I noticed you mentioned a few trucks were a step up from a Titan. Yes they are, but you might look at a Titan XD, because with the right tow PKG some have a listing over 12k lbs. I know this video is older, and I'm just now watching, so you might mention them on future videos and I just haven't heard them yet. My Titan is 15 yrs old with 114k miles, so not time to start towing an RV even though rated at 9.5k lbs. Looking for the next step up! Thanks again.😀
I might look into this, because my Everglades 24ft weighs in at about 7500-8000 with all my shit in it. The F-150 I was looking at with the 5.0 was about 52 msrp. Dealer said he would drop 4-5k. Long story short I’m not the type of guy who cares for leather nav and all the tech. High 30’s low 40’s for a 6.2 f250 is probably what I’m gonna do now. Thank you you very much, your review really helped my decision.
Good work keep it up
I opted for my fourth RAM a 2017 2500 Tradesmen with a 6.4 3:73. Looked at the Ford but the RAM! had all the options for a more economical price and it’s a RAM. Our local Ford dealership would only come off the sticker $1K. My HD Truck has a long Wheelbase. I have a 31ft Windjammer that has a gross weight of 8300 lb’s. That’s well within the safe towing range. My RAM is rated at 12,810 towing and 3420 payload. It’s perfect for towing 8 to 10K pounds. On personal note I love your perspective. I tend to be onboard with you the majority of the time. Thanks!
I’m a couple months behind. I bought a new 16’ GMC 1500SLT for my 9k max payload trailer. it ran fine on the flats but had rock and role motion and felt a little light on breaking and suspension. my wife deals with anxiety so it was sold. 8 months ago bought a used 17’ F250 6.2. 3.73 crew, SLT 4x4 with 17k miles on it. Towing with this vehicle is night a day better. Stable and feels better behind the wheel like you have control when needed. Back seat has more room for the kids. Turning radius sucks when backing up (make sure you have plenty of room) other than that great pick up. Don’t care about mpg when I am using corn fuel at $2 per gallon driving around town. I use 91 when towing. My water pump went out 2 weeks ago had ford replace it under warranty. I’ll be installing a K&N next week and making my first trip up mammoth mountain so I’m a little nervous going up 6-8% grade up 9,000 feel elevation but no guts no glory right haha
The 6.2 is a great engine! I had a 2016 CCSB f250 with 4.30 gears and towed my 15k lbs 42’ 5th wheel with ease. Gas mileage was horrible doing it. 8-9 mpg pulling camper.
Now I’ll say this. I now have a 2015 Ram Cummins CCLB with aisin and 3.42 gears. I’ve only pulled our camper twice so far but my initial impressions are. My f250 would run away from the Ram from a stop to hi way speed.
scott back what was your mpg with the diesel
It's just the boy in me that always dreams about big trucks. I just got have the need. My F150 2006 is awesome, but the F 2, 3, 4 50's are just so darn cool.
I love my 2WD 2013 F250 XL with the 6.2. Its more than enough to tow my 21ft. travel trailer and without the carpeting its easy to clean.
I'm more of a base model XL guy. I've never been a gadget geek or a fan of fake chrome. Lastly, if your a weekend warrior that uses your truck as a commuter mainly, get a SRW. But, if you're a full-time R.Ver, get a DRW. Choosing a gasser or a diesel is just a personal preference.
what does DRW and SRW stand for?
@@MsLiberty101 dual rear wheel or single rear wheel.
5:25 Free water bottle?! I'm sold!! XD
You had me with the free water bottle... And who doesn’t need an extra pair of sunglasses? 😎
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Where's the Nissan Titan that I saw in the thumbnail from part 1 video?
Max conventional towing with the 3.73 Axle is 12,500, but if you opt for the 4.30 rear axle it is up to 15,000. My wife currently has a 2015 F-150 3.5L eco max tow we use to pull an 8k travel trailer. I'm looking to upgrade my 2010 F-150 to this exact truck with the 6.2L, so I appreciate the review. =)
coming from having a 6.2l Raptor and then to a 17 Raptor with Ecoboost that tows a 7500lb travel trailer I would never want the 6.2l engine back. 1-1.5mpg less towing, and much much less tq. Unless you want the 3/4 ton platform for towing you will be really disappointed going from the 3.5l eco max tow to the the 6.2l in a super Duty.
I would opt for the water bottle! Lol in my opinion if you're going to buy a tow truck to just tow an RV a few times a year get gas because you can buy a lot of gas with the $10,000 you save instead of buying a diesel!!!
An update to this video featuring the new 7.3 Godzilla engine would be good. It has significantly more power!
You are in Corpus Christi. When I was shopping I found if I wanted an F250 I looked at the XL models for an 8ft bed.
I would recommend doing a video on the Ram 2500 6.4L. Amazing horsepower and torque for a gasser. I have the laramie 6.4L with 373 gears towing a 12000lb 5th wheel. For a 3/4 ton gas engine pulls every nice and handeling is exceptional.
I’m loving this series! Can you spec a one ton Ford with gas (single or dual)? I could see how the casual tower would realize value in both ride and cost by going 3/4 ton. Keep them coming! 👍
Great video... However for my money the RAM is the better buy. It has more tech for the dollar and as you stated in this video, you can get the Cummins (if desired) for almost the same price. I appreciate that you take the time to show all size trucks and what they can do.
Jeffrey G yeah for the price he said I’d rather a tradesman Ram with the Cummins
Rams can get glitchy with all that tech and the transmission....... look into it.
What are your thoughts on the pro-trailer back up assist? I just bought a 2018 Ford F-150 XLT and looking forward to using this system.
You do know trucks & knowledgeable, Thank you for clearly explaining. What is the the difference between towing with goose neck and towing from the rear bumper?
Thanks for your help with advise on towing but I have a budget can I tow with my Chevy Tahoe 4 wheel drive LT 2004 or what kind of trailer will be my limit with such truck thank you
Both trucks are a good value, I just don't know which one I would go with.
Looks like the STX does in fact have the white rancho shocks. Is that a 17 model where the XLT is a 18?
Nice!!
Have you done any weight distribution and or sway control videos for class 3 vehicles?
Is the new 7 liter for the raptor going to be in the super duty? What kind of power ratings are they talking about
I bought a 2017 Ford F350 CCLB with the 6.2L engine and 3.73 gears. I ordered it. bought it with the Lariat trip package but with only the base variant. It can tow 12,000bls with a payload of almost 4000lbs. I have ordered a 5th wheel GVW of 11000 lbs. This combo should be all that I need.
Brian Cray incredibly helpful to know. I bought a 5'er 33 ft wildcat (GVWR 13k) for my 2012 250CC short 6.7L and didnt know what I was doing back then. Payload is ONLY 2150!!! Added airbags. Helped a little but 20% tounge on 13k lbs and im over limit before I get in the truck. Towed my fam to FL from TX twice. Absolutely No more. Really thinking about moving up to 350 LB CC and just knowing payload is in the upper 3k range is almost doubling my payload.
Although I've had multiple Ford F-350's thru the years (my favourite being my 1997, which I still own). I even had a Freightliner FL-60 Sport Truck for a short time, which I hated. Currently we have a Ford F-150 Limited with the 6.2 liter engine which we use as a daily driver and love. It's A 2014 but she looks brand new and has given us no problems so there are no plans to mortgage the house and trade up. The 6.2 has been a great engine, much better, I think for the mountains than Ford's turbo V-6.
Not sure if you've done this, how about a comparison on dually trucks with gas engines and the size of 5th wheel or travel trailers they can handle vs their diesel brethren.
Nice work. What was the GVWR for these, 10k? If we went with f350 long bed CC then payloads would be higher or about the same? Plan to take the kiddos down to corpus soon. Were in POC this weekend.
What budget truck would you recommend for a 4,000-6,000 trailer? 1/2 ton work?
I’m looking at a 2018 F350 SRW with the Stx package in the super cab I’m pretty impressed with it I don’t need a 350 however the 350 is cheaper than than the 250 and I’m not to concerned about the ride but it’s nice to have the capacity. The dealer had a 250 XLT and another 350 Stx bit they sold so I’m just wondering what kind of deal I can get.
I know it's been 2 years, what ur thought on gas in the western mountains pulling a 10,000 camper
I have a 2013 F-150 4x4 5.0 V8. What size travel trailer should I limit myself to as far as size and weight go?
The XLT option is kind of what I would go for. They give pretty discounts on XLTs too, so in reality the 2 trucks are probably only about $1000 to $1500 different cost wise. I'm still waiting to see if they are going to come out with the 7.0l with 10 speed for the F250.
What do you think about this 6.2 V 2019 6.4 Hemi with the 8 speed trans for towing a 7500lb trailer? I've been hearing how that new engine with that trans is the best right now and saw you just drove one. Thanks!
I have to wholeheartedly disagree with the assumption you need a super duty to tow a large TT. My boyfriend and I bought a 2017 Grand Design Reflection 315RLTS new last year and purchased a new 2017 F-150 supercrew limited 3.5 eb with the 10 speed transmission. I installed power airbags on the truck and got a good Andersen WDH for the TT. We’ve put 13,000k miles traveling all over the southwest, Canada, down the west coast and the F-150 pulled the trailer flawlessly. In the mountains the gas mileage sucks pulling 12k lbs, but I’m able to keep driving 70 mph with no issues at all. The great thing about a short box f150 is that you can still use it for a daily driver and find parking. With a super duty that’s not the case. Especially in Los angles. Just food for thought based on my experience thus far.
Never buy a 3/4 gas.....you will regret it. We have these trucks for work, you mash the gas and the only thing that happens is the rpms go up and your still not going any faster lol. I can only imagine towing a real load. Love the channel!
6.2 is fords best gasser
Bill Penning The 5.0 is the best in terms of power but the 6.2 is really good.
The 3.5 Ecoboost can tow more than this.
@@ZR1Terror its not just about how much you can tow... its about how much you can haul and how stable you can tow and haul it.
Big Truck - What are your thoughts for using the second truck you showed to tow a fifth wheel? I have been looking at some of the smaller fifth wheels by Jayco (HT 29.5BHDS & HT 29.5BHOK). There is a local dealer that has pretty good deals on the 2WD STX trucks fairly close to me.
What about the Regular Cab with 6.2L? I do to plan to tow anything larger than a 25ft Airstream - which we are still on the fence about buying - but I like that it fits in one parking space and I have been told that with the snow plow/camper package and 4.30 rears, it will not only fit a 35" tire without lifting or leveling, but the 4.30s will get anything up and moving with ease - but will suffer a bit above 70mph on the highway. What are your thoughts?
I wish you would measure the cab height of these trucks so people could get an idea if they will fit in their garage or not. I recently bought an F150 to tow a 6000 lb GVWR camper when I really wanted an F250 because the F250 was a couple of inches too high to fit in my garage.
The F150 will do what I need without any problem but, I was trying to future proof any future increase in camper size for a while.
The ford sight say's 77.9" - 81.5" I was concerned as we had a lot of snow and the trains stopped running that I normally take to work. The parking garage at worked seemed low but I have seen trucks in there. So off I went. Had to go in 1 certain entrance as the turning radius on this thing is not good! Anyway, I made it in. My antenna did rub against the ceiling supports all the way up and all the way down. Kinda sucked. Hopefully it's the very rare occasion that I'll have to drive that thing to the city!
what size fifth wheel could you pull with this truck?
How about an HT series 5th wheel? I would think it would be suitable for that, no?
I have an 18 foot, 3,000 lb. travel trailer. We took it to PA with my son's Hundai Santa Fe and it towed fine. However, his car had a difficult time when pulling up some gravel hills. What midsize truck would you recommend where we wouldn't have any issues towing on gravel, etc. uphill? 2WD? 4WD? other?
is this truck with the 373 gear in it ? if so is it getting 12 mpg ?
Ford F250 4X4 6.7 diesel avarage milage?
What is considered to be the mid size travel trailer in length and GVWR in that mid to large size range?
What are your thoughts on an F-150 or similar to pull a travel trailer around 25ft long and around 7500lbs? I am looking at something like the Camplite 21RBS or Lance 1985.
I'm a Ram fan mostly because of the Cummins engine. But I have to say that Ford has certainly got my attention and I just might have to look into an F250 V8 when the time comes for me to trade in my 1500 (in ~2 years)
My STX truck came with the larger screen, center console, "idiot backup mode" for towing, and 2WD. I'm not sure if I'd stick with 2WD - it's very squirrelly when it gets wet - and downright dangerous when it's snow or ice (though I did get chains to help deal with the ice). I really prefer the upgraded screen (and dash computer) - the apple car play function is something I use every day. The price difference, though, may be enough to push me (if I was choosing between those two) to the STX as spec'ed here and then go aftermarket to upgrade the stereo. To me, it's about how livable the truck is and the way my truck was specified, it's very, very livable.
Nice.
Which model truck. I looking to buy one like it in a month
I have a 2018 ram 1500 quad cab 5.7 liter and I just picked up a 2006 ragen 23 ft toy hauler with a 2 seater Rzr and a quad inside will this truck be able to tow or should I upgrade to a bigger truck ?
I believe too much consideration is put into the weight of the trailer being towed, and not enough on the height and shape of the trailer . I have a custom work trailer that is 26 ft long with a v nose and slab sides, however it stands 11 ft tall due to my need for 8' ceiling height inside. Although the total weight is under 10,000 lbs, the amount of air that beast pushes is immense and definitely puts a hurt on mileage an tow-ability with a gas powered tow vehicle. Initially I bought a new Ram with the Hemi, and found that the transmission was constantly searching for the right gear, and that it could NOT pull overdrive, even in tow mode. SO, I ended up returning to the Ram dealer and upgrading to a 3/4 ton Diesel. That made ALL the difference in the world. The new truck with the Cummins Diesel doesn't even know it is back there. Since then, I have added a Raptor Toyhauler that is considerably larger than the work trailer to the back lot, and although it is taller, longer, and heavier, it too is towed effortlessly, although I did initially find it a little reactive to the wind of passing Semi's on the road. I agree with you on a load weight distribution hitch. It really helps to calm things down and eliminate any tendency to sway. My truck is set up to tow heavy, and it does a very good job of it now with just a few minor mods.
Gary Crumrine they should make those trailers a little more aerodynamic.
Say I wanted to tow a 6,00O lbs. 28 foot TR. What axel ratio would you recommend for the XLT version? What bed size?
Can I tow travel trailers with a 2004 Tahoe
I’m glad you are doing this because I’m in serious debate in trading in my F 150 for 1 of these, been to the dealer talking to them twice now.
I was going to trade my F150 in for one until I found out the F250 won't fit in my garage. Good luck.
mike naples I had to go with 17" wheels in order to fit my 250 in.
H&P Customs do it!
Thanks Shackles, in my case the F250 is just too long unless I went for a regular cab with a 142" wheelbase. I need at least a supercab which will add 6" to the overall length. With the tropical storms we get in S Fla I need to be able to shut the garage door.
mike naples I see , your issue is longitude and not latitude lol.
The F250 STX would be the truck i would choose. It has everything I would need.
Pretty much what im looking for....
Does it come with e rated tires?
I'm looking at an 8500 pounds 33ft travel trailer. I'm thinking the newer 7.3 Godzilla should be fine. I plan on full timing going to all mountainous areas. With that in mind should I go diesel?
Have you done any videos like this but using the 12-15 passenger vans? Would love to see your take on an Express 3500 long wheel base versus thw short and an NV Passenger 3500. I know a lot of folks wouldn't be interested, but it would be something that no one has really shown, to my knowledge.
Sweet you can get a 2018 f250 with a free water bottle
Too bad you can’t get a free 2018 when you buy a Ford water bottle...Just sayin’.
Yeah but is it a name brand or just off-brand?
Does anyone here know of a way I can find out the tow ratings for a truck that has been heavily modified from stock and where no ratings exist for it ?
What “absolutely needs a diesel truck”? Do you have a video explaining it? I’ve recently acquired a 2012 Palomino Puma TT just under 7000lb DW, with a GVWR OF 11,137lb and a hitch weight of 977lb. I’m a gal who will be upgrading from my tiny GMC Acadia to the smallest truck I can get away with to pull this TT comfortably. Any suggestions??? I think theses numbers are throwing me for a loop. They don’t matchup with anything out there nowadays.
Is this a what size truck to tow with or a Ford truck commercial?
Own a 2017, F-250, 4X4, XLT Crew Cab and have had it to the dealership twice for "death wobble" Ford claims they engineered it out in 2016 for the 2017 (and up) models but even 2018 & 2019 owners are experiencing "death wobble" as well. The dealership replaced a bunch of front end steering and suspension components the first time then told me they couldn't find anything wrong or duplicate the issue the second time in. They said they drove it 37 miles over varied road surfaces but couldn't get it to act up. They said the tire air pressure was incorrect. Ironically, the truck was serviced the previous Saturday by their sister Ford dealership so they adjusted the tire pressure at that visit.....this was the following Thursday the "death wobble" reared it's ugly head again. Last week, two different law firms contacted me asking if I would like to join a class action lawsuit against FOMOCO for this "death wobble" they continue to deny exists or will do anything significant to rid these trucks of it.
When you pay $50k, $60k, $70k, and more for a vehicle, it shouldn't spontaneously start violently shaking to the point it's so dangerous it can cause a crash or worse......
I have the exact truck stx model same color identical!!
StoneFtw Gaming I noticed these STX models on the lot and it took me awhile to figure out what they were doing. I do like the bucket seat STX but I’m not sure about the plain grill looks. 🤠
Fantastic video sir! Although I would avoid GMs offering in this category due to the 6.0 Vortec being well overdue for an upgrade as it is extremely underpowered!
BigJohnDiesel I want GM to bring back the BBC
BigJohnDiesel I'll take proven reliability over a few more paper numbers. My 6.0 pulls 8,000 lbs confidently.
I currently have a 2014 F150 Super Cab with the 3.7. I want to tow a Jayco 212QBW Baja. The truck sticker says I can haul 6,400 lbs. The Jayco sticker says GVWR of 6,000. Do I need a bigger truck?
I’m leaning toward a f250 w 6.2, not sure on 4x4 or not- crew cab and 6.5 bed(for maneuverability only- would prefer 8’ bed)
StoneysWorkshop get a 350. And an 8' bed. Price difference is minimal considering all the advantages . Most 250's have half the payload of a .350
Mike Merritt I understand, I’ll be going from an f150 5.5’ bed. Haven’t really had any issues with bed size and payload- I see I could use an upgrade and the 250 will help with the easier shocks for rode quality since i go 5-7 hours one way a few times per week- 35-40k miles per years
If you're not sure of the 4x4, they you probably really don't need it. If you really not sure, just weight everything as best you can. It's an expensive option, thousands over the 4x2, it reduces your payload, reduces your mileage, and it's one more thing to break and need maintenance.