The problem is that the maggot is falling on a slack line, so potential missed bites. However, on the flip side, fish feeding off the deck are more likely to be swimming through, darting around to grab food. So they "should" straighten that line pretty quickly. As said, a trade off, but this is targetting fish that are feeding in a different way to those browsing on deck.
Tapered bulk they way to go making it easier to detect the bite as the bait falls through the water. Bulk and dropper like this means you won't get many bite indications as the float is set but the bait isn't on the bottom yet. As the last and most essential part of the baits fall is in the final part. Where as the taper shotting and last dropper which is closer to the hook will show up on you float tip especially if the bait is taken before the final shot has settled.
try the dropper shot about 1 hook length up the line and then see the drop rate difference ( hook length = 6ins then dropper shot would be about 12ins to from the hook ) i have some times fished and the dropper shot has come off and been getting weird bites only to find i was getting hit on the drop
I noticed that despite being hooked in the head the maggot fell sideways on. It would be good to compare the hooked maggot fall with a loose fed maggot. Also in other videos I have seen maggots hooked in their middle so to increase the fall time.
I've been messing around with different shotting patterns using the tapered bulk that jamie and andy talk about on winning ways It definitely makes a difference although I've not got it quite right as i seem to miss a hell of a lot of bites but I've put a conventional rig on after missing bites and the bites dry up So there is definitely something in it If i work it out I'll let you know keep up the good vids dude🎣
Logic tells me that the further away your shot is from the hook, the longer it will take for your bait to hit the required depth. However, consideration must always be given to the bait being used, and for the fish being targeted. Shotting patterns will vary for those reasons, and of course, whether fishing stillwater or a river.
Not even close to being an effective pattern. To see a bite the fish have to dislodge the shot, the further away the shot the more bites you'll miss. You'd be lucky to even see one in winter, F1s especially will watch a bait fall follow it down and pick it up. You need the last shot to register on the float and be as close to the hook as is possible.
The problem is that the maggot is falling on a slack line, so potential missed bites. However, on the flip side, fish feeding off the deck are more likely to be swimming through, darting around to grab food. So they "should" straighten that line pretty quickly. As said, a trade off, but this is targetting fish that are feeding in a different way to those browsing on deck.
That's definitely food for thought Scott, well done for doing that should be good for a lot of fishermen and women, well filmed, 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, managed to wreck a camera redoing the underwater section when a seal failed but these things happen lol
“Fishermen and women” Woke 😂you didn’t mention the other 73 genders
lol, don't go there lol
Tapered bulk they way to go making it easier to detect the bite as the bait falls through the water. Bulk and dropper like this means you won't get many bite indications as the float is set but the bait isn't on the bottom yet. As the last and most essential part of the baits fall is in the final part. Where as the taper shotting and last dropper which is closer to the hook will show up on you float tip especially if the bait is taken before the final shot has settled.
try the dropper shot about 1 hook length up the line and then see the drop rate difference ( hook length = 6ins then dropper shot would be about 12ins to from the hook ) i have some times fished and the dropper shot has come off and been getting weird bites only to find i was getting hit on the drop
The problem with having a shot that far from the hook is how long it will take a bite to register on the float!
That is the trade off I'm afraid but worth thinking about anyway.....
Yeah but will it register on your float, with it being a maggot,
I was thinking the same, But as Scott says bit of a trade off
I noticed that despite being hooked in the head the maggot fell sideways on. It would be good to compare the hooked maggot fall with a loose fed maggot. Also in other videos I have seen maggots hooked in their middle so to increase the fall time.
That's a good idea, a side hooked maggot is supposed to slow down fall rate even further so I'll see if I can get this on film. Cheers, Scott
Nice to know.
I was thinking about this and it will be really useful for stream trout and perch under the pier, more if I consider.. Thx.
No problem 👍 hope it works for you
I've been messing around with different shotting patterns using the tapered bulk that jamie and andy talk about on winning ways
It definitely makes a difference although I've not got it quite right as i seem to miss a hell of a lot of bites but I've put a conventional rig on after missing bites and the bites dry up
So there is definitely something in it
If i work it out I'll let you know keep up the good vids dude🎣
Keep experimenting Martin, it's one of those areas that the pro anglers just get right and understand better than us I guess.
Makes sense if you’re hoping to catch on the drop , 👍
Even if catching on the deck a slower fall will mimic the loose feed a bit better
Logic tells me that the further away your shot is from the hook, the longer it will take for your bait to hit the required depth. However, consideration must always be given to the bait being used, and for the fish being targeted. Shotting patterns will vary for those reasons, and of course, whether fishing stillwater or a river.
Great vid Scott Great to see it in the tank Cheers.
Great stuff 👍
Glad you liked it and those little changes can make all the difference
How was this news? That moving a lead weight further away from your hookbait made your hookbait fall slower?
Really?? it was the distance it was moved that was the point!
Pro's never do that shotting patern miss bites with 1 dropper
Not even close to being an effective pattern.
To see a bite the fish have to dislodge the shot, the further away the shot the more bites you'll miss. You'd be lucky to even see one in winter, F1s especially will watch a bait fall follow it down and pick it up.
You need the last shot to register on the float and be as close to the hook as is possible.
All well and good but as soon as you pop on corn it all goes to cock anyway but fascinating 🧐
Why when using corn? I'm looking at corn in the next few days actually but interested in your thoughts.......
@@Scottsoutdoorchannel because it weighs more than the dropper
Be fun to see if it has an effect though. Good luck and tight lines
Makes sense, I'll be looking at it this week because that is a good point
@@Scottsoutdoorchannel thanks and have fun with it
That’s what angling is all about