Randy I really love your videos. I was always taught this exact method, but after getting serious with rifle shooting I've found the top of the turret isn't always level. Put the bubble on the turret find your level, then turn the turret a 1/4 or 1/2 a rotation and that bubble will shift. Now just find where the action is level, throw the barrel level on there and just plumb bob the scope's reticle.
Might be a dumb question, but how do you level the rifle? I normally use a picatinny rail to level it, but this time I’m using rings like in this video. The end of my receiver isn’t even where I can use a bubble. Could I use it inside the action?
@@codydavis4513 I always start with a level surface. Whether that's a kitchen table, a work bench or kitchen counter. To me, that's half the battle, once I start with a level work surface then the rest is relatively easy.
Finally someone knows how to do it proper. So many people I know just slap their scope on willi nilly and off they go. And then wonder why they can’t hit the broad side of a barn
Thank you, I needed this. Following along, & realizing that in the past I could have mounted mine better , now going back and rechecking all my sights for being true & level, & re-zeroing.
@@Fresh_Tracks I use the Wheeler level system. My complaint is they should of used a better color for the housing of the bubble level. The yellow gold color wasn't the best choice. The bubble level liquid is yellow too, and the housing is too shiny. It plays with the eyes too much. The system works, but its difficult on the eyes, and slows the process. I also use the Arisaka scope level tool. Many times I thought I was right on with the wheeler system and I'd catch a slight cant with the Arisaka tool. Only works with flat surfaces though.
Great intro video to mounting an optic. One thing to mention though is to not use the turret to make sure you reticle is level. One little thing could be off with your turret/ turret cap and this will throw you off. Use a plumb line to level your reticle. Also a plumb line is cheaper. You can make it at home home with cord and anything for weight lol
Randy Newberg, Hunter forgot to say we always bedded the base with epoxy makes it rock solid and still removable if you use shoe polish on rifle but Iam sure you knew that
At 5:03, what attachment did you use to add a level to the action? I can’t find that exact version on the wheeler website. I see similar ones, but not that fits on that part of the action.
Hey Randy, I know you really like the dovetail mounts, I’ve seen them on pretty much every one of your rifles. I’m curious if you’ve ever used the Leupold Backcountry mounts? Still a two piece base, but a one piece mount/ring which eliminates messing around with the dovetails. I used to have the dovetail mounts on my hunting rifles but just got tired of trying to align them so switched them out. Curious on your opinion.
Yep, dovetailing and trying to line them up and all that nonsense just isn't necessary. Modern 2 piece mounts already take care of all of that. Aligning mounts now is as silly as "breaking in a barrel"....
Hey Mr. Newberg, I have a question about scope rings. Are scope ring with only two screws any different than those with four screws? For example, does 2 screws scope have a higher chance of causing the scope to move around while walking through brushes?
I'm surprised more people don't promote Lupold dovetail. Nothing personal but seems like the whole world has gone picatinny crazy. Cracks me up when people insist that Wheeler level levels are warped junk not true to level. Trust Wheeler, don't trust pessimism...
You put some real energery into a how to video and six comments? Much appreciated no matter on how many people want to see kill shots. Thanks Randy.
Randy I really love your videos. I was always taught this exact method, but after getting serious with rifle shooting I've found the top of the turret isn't always level. Put the bubble on the turret find your level, then turn the turret a 1/4 or 1/2 a rotation and that bubble will shift. Now just find where the action is level, throw the barrel level on there and just plumb bob the scope's reticle.
Might be a dumb question, but how do you level the rifle? I normally use a picatinny rail to level it, but this time I’m using rings like in this video. The end of my receiver isn’t even where I can use a bubble. Could I use it inside the action?
@@codydavis4513 I always start with a level surface. Whether that's a kitchen table, a work bench or kitchen counter. To me, that's half the battle, once I start with a level work surface then the rest is relatively easy.
Finally someone knows how to do it proper. So many people I know just slap their scope on willi nilly and off they go. And then wonder why they can’t hit the broad side of a barn
Thank you, I needed this.
Following along, & realizing that in the past I could have mounted mine better , now going back and rechecking all my sights for being true & level, & re-zeroing.
At close ranges it is not that important, but when you get out a ways a canted crosshair is a serious problem.
@@Fresh_Tracks I use the Wheeler level system. My complaint is they should of used a better color for the housing of the bubble level. The yellow gold color wasn't the best choice. The bubble level liquid is yellow too, and the housing is too shiny. It plays with the eyes too much. The system works, but its difficult on the eyes, and slows the process. I also use the Arisaka scope level tool. Many times I thought I was right on with the wheeler system and I'd catch a slight cant with the Arisaka tool. Only works with flat surfaces though.
Great intro video to mounting an optic. One thing to mention though is to not use the turret to make sure you reticle is level. One little thing could be off with your turret/ turret cap and this will throw you off. Use a plumb line to level your reticle. Also a plumb line is cheaper. You can make it at home home with cord and anything for weight lol
great resource - even shared it with our site readers in a post! thanks!
Very interesting, thanks for putting that together 😊
what is that leveler called and where did you get it?
what is the name of the tool for adjusting the straightness of the montage
Used leupold scope and rings in military for years I never had to lap ever but always used one piece base. good video 👍🏻
Good to know.
Randy Newberg, Hunter forgot to say we always bedded the base with epoxy makes it rock solid and still removable if you use shoe polish on rifle but Iam sure you knew that
At 5:03, what attachment did you use to add a level to the action? I can’t find that exact version on the wheeler website. I see similar ones, but not that fits on that part of the action.
Some guys shoot with canted scopes. I do. Scope level for bdc shooting bubble is adjusted to the rifle.
Lay lapping bar in rings and hit it between rings with a rubber mallet. Rings will torque in for perfect alignment.
Hey Randy, I know you really like the dovetail mounts, I’ve seen them on pretty much every one of your rifles. I’m curious if you’ve ever used the Leupold Backcountry mounts? Still a two piece base, but a one piece mount/ring which eliminates messing around with the dovetails. I used to have the dovetail mounts on my hunting rifles but just got tired of trying to align them so switched them out. Curious on your opinion.
Yep, dovetailing and trying to line them up and all that nonsense just isn't necessary. Modern 2 piece mounts already take care of all of that. Aligning mounts now is as silly as "breaking in a barrel"....
Hey Mr. Newberg, I have a question about scope rings. Are scope ring with only two screws any different than those with four screws? For example, does 2 screws scope have a higher chance of causing the scope to move around while walking through brushes?
What if you cant the rifle while.holding it
Nice.
But did not lap your scope rings by sanding them down to make them equity with each other. But great video. 😁👍
Would you recommend the cds leupold for varmint hunting? thinking of a Leupold vx3i 4.5x14x40 on an ar15
I would.
Thanks for the reply, I'll go with it.@@Fresh_Tracks
I'm surprised more people don't promote Lupold dovetail. Nothing personal but seems like the whole world has gone picatinny crazy. Cracks me up when people insist that Wheeler level levels are warped junk not true to level. Trust Wheeler, don't trust pessimism...
dovetails aren't necessary anymore....you can thrown on some Back Country's and already be CNC lined up perfectly.
After watching this, I think Randy subs to Midway USA
You do not put a level on top of the scope. Use your rings or bases for your level, then transfer that to the barrel level.
I still lap every set of rings. Everything has tolerances
No, 2 piece back country rings are CNC'd out of a single steel or aluminum billet. Lapping is silly in modern times.
@@Simon-talks tooling is never perfect. Why do you think valves are lapped? Is that not necessary now? Of course it is
It’s not necessary these days. You’re living in the past…
Why don't you use DNZ scope mounts? All one piece. Another possible sponsor.
I prefer the double dovetails. Allows for more room when loading.
@@Fresh_Tracks They all have a cut out to clear the chamber.
you can align better... see the video carefully ;)
You forgot to focus the scope reticle to your eye. That should be the first step before mounting it.
A huge waste of money......
Adam Winters what's a waste of money?
@@jared8469 i guess he means a little elbow grease, flashlight and presto, just as good.