You have no idea... I bought both at aliexpress and i'm selling the Tilta right now. Tilta can only use one 4mm thick filter, Smallrig can accomodate both 2mm and 4mm and you can use two filters at the same time. Plus you can use larger lenses and so it's easier to add a circular filter before the adapter. Definitely a better mattebox in any aspect except size...
Solid comparison but given how the SmallRig matte box is superior in almost every way to the Tilta its weird how you'd single out the size as such a big negative. Also, matte boxes are typically larger especially if they are doing the job they are designed to do. I've worked on everything from giant 35mm Panavision cameras to small Super 16s, DSLRs and everything in between. The SmallRig is hands down the better matte box. Finally, its so awesome that we live in a time where gear like this can be had for such a good price! It wasn't that long ago that even the "cheap" clones were still upwards of $500. Thanks again for a good review.
That's so true! The SmallRig Matte Box definitely has more features! I was just choosing the Tilta one because of my small setup, but as I said if you have a bigger setup with cine lenses, the SmallRig one is a much better option. Cheap gear is definitely getting better, and that is awesome! Thank you for sharing your experience! Thank you so much for your kind words and support on the video too!
true ! The smallrig mattebox was 30% yesterday, I jumped on it, so cheap for a mattebox. If anyone has any advice regarding good ND filters for it, I'm in. I'm considering the Nisi filters, but I would like to get a good bundle to be able to go through the day without an issue.
halfway thru and i'm so confused. He said get the tilta instead of the smallrig mattebox...then preceded to mention all the reasons smallrig is better...lemme keep watching cuz um...
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I like the design of the Smallrig - particularly the filter holder. You're right though, it's way too big for what I need. I hope they make a smaller version.
Great video, thank you. I just received my Smallrig matte box and, you're right, it is pretty big on a mirrorless (Z6) camera. That said, I really like the filter holding system from a security standpoint and, for me, that makes it a keeper. Of course it helps that nearly all of my 'rigging' is Smallrig. I'm impressed with the build quality of all their stuff.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Yeah, SmallRig always has amazing quality, and we have a lot of SmallRig products too! I’m excited for you too! Thank you so much for your kind words and support on the video!
Just a small input here: If you have 82mm-or less filters (which are way cheaper than 4x5.6) as i use them on fujinon's mk series , the smallrig is unusable as a clamp on as it doesn't have the double thread. this and the weight (more than double) is why i got the tilta's. If I ever need big cine lenses (2 times a year maybe) I just rent them withe the right filters and mattebox etc
My two cents. Actually the only one matte box usable with filters is the smallrig, because the filler settles actually INSIDE the matte box while on the Tilta it sits on its surface... which is bad. It will flare and you will be most likely required to put black foil on the sides.
Thanks for making this video! I went with the Tilta purely due to size for my run and gun doc work. It arrives in a couple of days and I'm excited to test it out!
You are very welcome! I’m glad that you picked the one that suits your needs! I’m excited for you too! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
The fact that the SmallRig mattebox does not have thread for circular filters is a deal breaker. If I can afford a cine lens then I'll get the PolarPro Basecamp mattebox.
I've tried both and the Tilta is ever so slightly more my preference. I prefer its smaller size (I was surprised when the Small Rig matte box arrived by how big it was) and I generally only use one filter at a time, so the Small Rig option for two filters is mostly unnecessary for me. My first impression was the Small Rig matte box felt a little 'flimsy', although I haven't had any trouble with it. Over time, I am sure I will acquire more cine lenses so the Small Rig matte box will ultimately be the better option. But at the price point, even buying both is a bargain, especially when compared with the cost of bigger and heavier rail mounted matte boxes.
I returned the Small rig one and keep Tilta one for my compact rig setup. The main key for me to use a compact matte box is the smaller size and lightweight. If I use a bigger set or with heavy cine lenses, I will add a 15mm rod system for lens support and then I can use a bigger matte box that has more features and also has side barn doors. In my opinion, the Smallrig one is at a weird middle point that doesn't reach neither "compact& lightweight" nor "professional featured".
BTW, compared to the Smallrig one, Polar Pro's matte box seems better. At least it has a rotatable design for filters. But, yeah, it's way more expensive.
Great video man. I ALMOST got mad at you, when you said not to buy the smallrig matte box, lol... cause I just got one! You've said it all. I was shopping for matte boxes for quite awhile and although the SmallRig is not the Polarpro matte box and it doesn't close when you put the 4x5 filter inside, I love having the choice of putting two filters and then also being able to put 4x4 filters, which gives me an extra! Also! I just tried it using a black pro mist on the lens, plus the matte box. Great experience and results. Thanks!
Haha, that’s awesome! I’m so glad that you enjoyed the video! Thank you for sharing your experience here! Yeah, having more filter options is definitely a plus! I’m excited for you too! Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
The only thing I would challenge you on this is that if you're already using Cinema lenses or looking at using Cinema lenses spend a few bucks more on something like the polar Pro Bass camp. But the rest of your video is very spot on
Obviously SmallRig now do a smaller matte box which I believe is still slightly larger than the Tilta mini matte box. My Canon R6 rig set-up is mainly made up of SmallRig components however I have my eyes set on the Tilta mini matte box rather that the SmallRig one as I feel it just looks better.. Anyway, your video has been super helpful - Thank you!
Excellent review Henry! I own both and I'd like to point out a couple of other differences. First, if you are just mounting on the lens, the Tilta is certainly smaller and works well. However, if you want to mount the box to a rod, the Smallrig wins. I use a large (77mm) variable ND filter and also I often use a Black Mist Pro 1/8 or 1/4 screw mount, also 77mm. You have to rotate the variable ND. With the Smallrig, I use the optional rail mount with the end of the lens "floating" in the matte box. While Tilta has the rail mount you pointed out, it's pretty flimsy and it is much harder to get it to line up with my camera. I use circular filters because they are much cheaper than the 4x4 or 4x5.65 filters. If I attach either to just the lens, I'm not going to hang anything else from them that will add additional weight. I'll use a cage and rails for any other accessories I may need. If I'm not using my ND filter and want to go small, I use the Tilta. Otherwise I use the Smallrig when I'm caged up.
You have solve my problem in choosing what can be good for us. for me I rather go with the small rig , it has provision for future expansion with cnilenes
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I have the tilt a, it’s okay. I do need to screw the 77mm filter on the front of the step down clampring to avoid vignetting on a 24mm lens on my FX6 which occurs when i keep it on the lens itself
Yes, and we have made a new video about the new SmallRig Mini Mattebox, hope it helps! Here is the link to the review video: th-cam.com/video/dCHeZtSYtUc/w-d-xo.html Thank you so much for supporting the video!
You are very welcome! I’m glad that the video helped! We are very excited for you getting the matte boxes too! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
If you don’t use cine lenses the smallrig it s ridiculous! I have the tilta and i’m super happy, fits perfectly, sized just right! The filters, just use a variable nd with a step down ring and that s it. But beware at 16mm strongly vignetting. From 20 onward you re fine. Form me tilta
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! I have been using the PolarPro variable ND and it is amazing because it has very little colour cast and it is very convenient. It is not the cheapest but it will last you a long time as long as you take good care of of it. I don’t use mist filter unfortunately. Hope it helps!
I got the small rig and I appreciate the review and comparison. I'm coming from a much larger and heavier matte box so the small rig is ok for me weight wise and just feels better, but you made alot of good points about the tilta as well, so thank you!
@@henrymediagroup The 1st time I did a paid gig outside on a rainy day, I realized, "i really need a cheap mattebox". Shelters the lens surface from raindrops! Smallrig is better for me because it can shelter bigger lenses also. Even some wide angle lenses without threads, when using the 15mm support bracket.
I own both. One (Tilta) is on my smaller rig on my GH5s set on a weebill-s gimbal. The other (Smallrig) in on my shoulder rig/ ronin-m gimbal and Bmpcc6k. The two filters on the smallrig is definitely an option that Tilta should add in their upcoming matte boxes.
How to use Smallrig matte box with my circular VND or Polariser filters? In my opinion this is a real issue.... The lack of internal threads on the rings is a real disappointment
That is why I will continue with the tilta. You can use a step up and step down ring to add spacing and use a variable nd. That is how I prefer to set up. You will have to experiment with lenses to see if you get vignettes though.
This isn’t necessarily a negative comment on these products, but instead a question I am genuinely curious about. Why buy either box only to have to purchase ridiculously expensive glass filters for them? I can buy a matte box for $15 to shade my lens, so why do I need a box to take filters I can’t afford? Is there a cheaper way to get the glass filters or is it just to make my rig look cooler?
Nice review. My only issue is that my lenses are 80mm OD and 95mm OD... I would rather clamp them on directly to them rather than screwing on an adapter to each of the lenses on each swaps.... do you know if there’s like an “adapter ring” that I can use rather than screwing on a step up each time?
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! That’s a great question! I think the only other solution is to use a rod system to put the matte box in front of the lens instead of mounting it on directly. Hope it helps!
SmallRig, definitely. When you get bigger cameras, everything gets big so, Titla would be a waste of money. I like to future proof things or be ahead. I don't really care about looking cool and sleek. The more professional I look, the more buck's in my account. 🥂🎬🎞
The only part of the Smallrig box made from carbon fibre is the top flag. The body is made from abs plastic (with a carbon fibre looking finish) with a thin metal mount.
One of the reviews on B&H indicates that the Smallrig scratches the edges of the filters after a while. Have you found this to be true? That would be a dealbreaker for me.
You are very welcome! That’s a great question! You can get the 4 x 5.65 filters at B&H or Amazon. The SmallRig matte box can also take 4 x 4 filters, but the Tilta mini matte box cannot. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Man I really can't decide! I wish small rig was, well, smaller but I don't like that tilta only has one slot and it's all the way up front. Tilta includes the rail adapter and small rig doesn't. Whichever I go with I'll probably have a little buyer's remorse either way haha.
i have both, at first the tilta was fine but it doesnt help as much from keeping flares off from the sides thats why i bought the smallrig one, yes its a bit bigger but theres very little difference in weight
That’s true, it really depends on what kind of setup you have. For my smaller setup, the Tilta one is better, but the filter tray is not the most ideal. Hope you can get the one that suits you! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Yes, both of them are very similar in terms of weight. I’m glad that you got both for different purposes! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
damn i wish you made this video before i purchased my small rig matte box, i shoot with a very small sony a 6400 and when the smallrig matte box arrived in the mail and i saw how big it was i was shocked. needless to say im buying the tilta one
I'm considering getting the tilta matte box to mount on a lens with a 82mm filter thread, but I'm wondering if I will be able to use my existing 82mm circular variable nd filter. You talk about the adapterrings having threads on the other side as well, but I'm unsure of the size is the same? Thanks for a great vid!
That’s a great question! Unfortunately my 82mm PolarPro variable ND filter won’t fit because it is too big and it won’t fit from the front of the Tilta matte box, so I think other 82mm filters won’t fit from the front too. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
Hi Henry, first of all amazing videos, maybe you can help me, do you know if the nato handle is compatible with any tilta nato rail incorporated on their cages? could you please check this? thank you so much in advance
Hi, thank you so much for your kind words and support! That’s a great question! Unfortunately we don’t have a Tilta cage with nato rail to test it, but you can always add a nato rail onto any cages with quarter twenty mounts. Hope it helps!
Yes, the SmallRig Mini Matte Box is closer to the Tilta Mini Matte Box in size. The regular SmallRig Matte Box is definitely more future proof for different setups.
I have a 55mm diameter fisheye/hood fixed and a 67mm diameter zoom.. Is there a way to use the smallrig on both? How woukd it work to step up from 55mm?
I have a similar scenario. I have a smallrig gopro cage that's 52mm. I think I can use a stepup adapter (52mm to 72) as long as it's threaded as well and then attach the SmallRig MatteBox via the 72-114mm that's included. I just have to make sure it doesn't vignette. #NotAnExpert
@@HondaFit4Adventure 'as long as it's threaded as well' What do you mean by that? There's no thread on a lenshood or curved lens.. (English is not my first lan, maybe I just don't understand it..)
Great video! So is it at all possible to use a screw on variable nd on the lens, then a step up ring (the trick on one of your other videos) on the small rig? Or can you only do that on the Tilta. Thanks
Yes, you can put a fixed, not variable ND, on your lens first, then put on the SmallRig adapter as long as your fixed ND has threads. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support on my videos!
I use a variable ND filter with the Smallrig. This it what I do. I mount the 77mm variable ND on whatever lens I'm using, with step up rings as needed. I then use a rail system, usually with my gripped Fuji X-H1 in a cage. I use the next size up adapter ring mounted in the matte box, but without the lens attached. I let the variable ND "float" just inside the matte box. It works a treat.
I could not disagree more. Size (and consequently weight) is the ONLY advantage for the Tilta. All the other points lead to Smallrig. Two square filters, 2mm or 4mm thickness, secure fit larger lenses, use of circular filters for larger lenses too, sturdier. Well, you catch my drift.
No one stays a videographer for long. Get the smallrig mattebox as it will adapt to the size of cameras you'll be shooting on in the future. The tilta has too short of a lifespan if all it can hold is one filter and only attaches to 77mm stills glass.
I think both have its targeted users, pros and cons, but if your primary filters are round filters and you want better portability and compact size, the Tilta Mini Matte Box is hard to beat compared to what is available in the current market for the price range. SmallRig should have integrated the feature of internal round filters in their design as this would have broaden their target market and use. Hopefully SmallRig decides to modify their clamp rings and add those inner filter threads in the future! If you do own the Tilta Mini Matte Box, and want to use the larger 82mm filters, then check out the 82mm Clamp Ring Hack we did th-cam.com/video/vjVOdx_b99Y/w-d-xo.html
That’s a great question! You don’t need a support rod for both matte boxes because they are clamp on matte box. The support rod is needed if you have a heavy lens. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support!
That’s true. I think Tilta sells a lot of sizes of adapter, hopefully you can find the ones that fit your lenses! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! That means a lot to me! Yes, I have seen that review too! Always love his videos! I actually messaged him to chat about our review videos being so similar haha.
So, with the smallrig, can I still somehow use my 82mm front thread Variable ND filter with the matte box attached? Maybe if I get the 15mm rod mount? I am interested in the matte box, but don't want to have to throw out several variable NDs!
OK..... watched another video and it seems that maybe with the 15mm rod supporting the box you can just leave the matte box lens mount a bit loose and then you would be able to rotate the ND 0 since that doesn't need to be too tight. A bit awkward maybe, but does that make sense?
That’s true, I think that’s the easiest solution to use variable ND with this type of matte boxes. Let us know if it works out! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Hi. Another option to use circular filters are these fader plates. They slide in the square filter tray and have a threaded hole to attach a circular filter. I’ve just got one in preparation for the SmallRig Matte Box to arrive. Hopefully, as I have 82mm filters but my largest lens in 77mm, it won’t lead to vignetting. Here’s the link: www.lockcircle.com/store/?p=matbox/matbox_pro
That's a great question! The weight difference is very minimal, they are both very light. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
SmallRig definitely has more features and is more future proof than the Tilta one, that’s why I think a lot of people will get the SmallRig matte box. Thank you so much for your support on the video!
I don't see any reason to buy cheap matte box, later U will pay twice for this decision, or triple, or quadruple times. Arri, Bright Tangerine or OConnor is only way to go.
Weird video comparison when you don't even compare the actual small one by Small Rig! It is SmallRig Mini Matte Box Lite which is much smaller and lighter than the one you are reviewing.
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Smallrig is the better choice after watching this...
You have no idea... I bought both at aliexpress and i'm selling the Tilta right now. Tilta can only use one 4mm thick filter, Smallrig can accomodate both 2mm and 4mm and you can use two filters at the same time. Plus you can use larger lenses and so it's easier to add a circular filter before the adapter. Definitely a better mattebox in any aspect except size...
Solid comparison but given how the SmallRig matte box is superior in almost every way to the Tilta its weird how you'd single out the size as such a big negative. Also, matte boxes are typically larger especially if they are doing the job they are designed to do. I've worked on everything from giant 35mm Panavision cameras to small Super 16s, DSLRs and everything in between. The SmallRig is hands down the better matte box. Finally, its so awesome that we live in a time where gear like this can be had for such a good price! It wasn't that long ago that even the "cheap" clones were still upwards of $500. Thanks again for a good review.
That's so true! The SmallRig Matte Box definitely has more features! I was just choosing the Tilta one because of my small setup, but as I said if you have a bigger setup with cine lenses, the SmallRig one is a much better option. Cheap gear is definitely getting better, and that is awesome! Thank you for sharing your experience! Thank you so much for your kind words and support on the video too!
true ! The smallrig mattebox was 30% yesterday, I jumped on it, so cheap for a mattebox. If anyone has any advice regarding good ND filters for it, I'm in. I'm considering the Nisi filters, but I would like to get a good bundle to be able to go through the day without an issue.
Smallrig makes a mini which is the size of the Tilita so it makes this comparison a bit pointless.
@@kidmackenzie that's because you're 8 months late to the party. When this content was put out the SmallRig mini didn't exist
halfway thru and i'm so confused. He said get the tilta instead of the smallrig mattebox...then preceded to mention all the reasons smallrig is better...lemme keep watching cuz um...
He provides multiple reasons to get each...
After searching for answer to this, I found you, and you answered it clearly and simply and I THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
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I like the design of the Smallrig - particularly the filter holder. You're right though, it's way too big for what I need. I hope they make a smaller version.
Yeah, I really like the filter tray and I wish they can make a smaller one! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
This is a very practicle review, thanks very much. You just gained a new subscriber.
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Maybe a filmmaker need both. The SmallRig and Tilta. I think I go for the Tilta this time because it is small and easy :)
That’s true, they are good for different purposes. I’m excited for you too! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Nice job, thanks. I've got the Smallrig mattebox I think I'll keep, but I'll just use the lens hood if I want to go to a smaller setup.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! That's a great idea!
Great video, thank you. I just received my Smallrig matte box and, you're right, it is pretty big on a mirrorless (Z6) camera. That said, I really like the filter holding system from a security standpoint and, for me, that makes it a keeper. Of course it helps that nearly all of my 'rigging' is Smallrig. I'm impressed with the build quality of all their stuff.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Yeah, SmallRig always has amazing quality, and we have a lot of SmallRig products too! I’m excited for you too! Thank you so much for your kind words and support on the video!
Just a small input here: If you have 82mm-or less filters (which are way cheaper than 4x5.6) as i use them on fujinon's mk series , the smallrig is unusable as a clamp on as it doesn't have the double thread.
this and the weight (more than double) is why i got the tilta's. If I ever need big cine lenses (2 times a year maybe) I just rent them withe the right filters and mattebox etc
Thank you for sharing your experience! Thank you so much for your support on the video too!
This is the most important thing to me.
U might check below
www.simmodlens.com/product-page/simtray-filter-adapter
Thank you! I'm glad I found this video.
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My two cents. Actually the only one matte box usable with filters is the smallrig, because the filler settles actually INSIDE the matte box while on the Tilta it sits on its surface... which is bad. It will flare and you will be most likely required to put black foil on the sides.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Thank you so much for your support on the video as well!
Thanks for making this video! I went with the Tilta purely due to size for my run and gun doc work. It arrives in a couple of days and I'm excited to test it out!
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The fact that the SmallRig mattebox does not have thread for circular filters is a deal breaker. If I can afford a cine lens then I'll get the PolarPro Basecamp mattebox.
Smallrig just released their own mini mattebox, you can use circular filters and square filters!
Exactly what I needed to watch. THANK YOU!!
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I've tried both and the Tilta is ever so slightly more my preference. I prefer its smaller size (I was surprised when the Small Rig matte box arrived by how big it was) and I generally only use one filter at a time, so the Small Rig option for two filters is mostly unnecessary for me. My first impression was the Small Rig matte box felt a little 'flimsy', although I haven't had any trouble with it. Over time, I am sure I will acquire more cine lenses so the Small Rig matte box will ultimately be the better option. But at the price point, even buying both is a bargain, especially when compared with the cost of bigger and heavier rail mounted matte boxes.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Thank you for your support on the video too!
I returned the Small rig one and keep Tilta one for my compact rig setup. The main key for me to use a compact matte box is the smaller size and lightweight. If I use a bigger set or with heavy cine lenses, I will add a 15mm rod system for lens support and then I can use a bigger matte box that has more features and also has side barn doors. In my opinion, the Smallrig one is at a weird middle point that doesn't reach neither "compact& lightweight" nor "professional featured".
BTW, compared to the Smallrig one, Polar Pro's matte box seems better. At least it has a rotatable design for filters. But, yeah, it's way more expensive.
honestly i love my circular filters so i will have to just go with tilta... they are both great tho
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great video! explained all the questions I had
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Excellent video my friend. Succinct and very informative. Thanks!!
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Great video man. I ALMOST got mad at you, when you said not to buy the smallrig matte box, lol... cause I just got one! You've said it all. I was shopping for matte boxes for quite awhile and although the SmallRig is not the Polarpro matte box and it doesn't close when you put the 4x5 filter inside, I love having the choice of putting two filters and then also being able to put 4x4 filters, which gives me an extra! Also! I just tried it using a black pro mist on the lens, plus the matte box. Great experience and results. Thanks!
Haha, that’s awesome! I’m so glad that you enjoyed the video! Thank you for sharing your experience here! Yeah, having more filter options is definitely a plus! I’m excited for you too! Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
@@henrymediagroup definitely man. Thanks to you for the great video 👊
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The only thing I would challenge you on this is that if you're already using Cinema lenses or looking at using Cinema lenses spend a few bucks more on something like the polar Pro Bass camp. But the rest of your video is very spot on
Obviously SmallRig now do a smaller matte box which I believe is still slightly larger than the Tilta mini matte box. My Canon R6 rig set-up is mainly made up of SmallRig components however I have my eyes set on the Tilta mini matte box rather that the SmallRig one as I feel it just looks better.. Anyway, your video has been super helpful - Thank you!
Awesome review. I am looking at the Tilta box. I need it to be lighter for my setup.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! Yeah, the Tilta one is definitely great for lighter setup! I'm excited for you too!
Very detailed review. Good work!
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Excellent review Henry! I own both and I'd like to point out a couple of other differences.
First, if you are just mounting on the lens, the Tilta is certainly smaller and works well. However, if you want to mount the box to a rod, the Smallrig wins. I use a large (77mm) variable ND filter and also I often use a Black Mist Pro 1/8 or 1/4 screw mount, also 77mm. You have to rotate the variable ND. With the Smallrig, I use the optional rail mount with the end of the lens "floating" in the matte box. While Tilta has the rail mount you pointed out, it's pretty flimsy and it is much harder to get it to line up with my camera. I use circular filters because they are much cheaper than the 4x4 or 4x5.65 filters.
If I attach either to just the lens, I'm not going to hang anything else from them that will add additional weight. I'll use a cage and rails for any other accessories I may need. If I'm not using my ND filter and want to go small, I use the Tilta. Otherwise I use the Smallrig when I'm caged up.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! Thank you so much for sharing your experience here! It is very helpful to a lot of users!
You have solve my problem in choosing what can be good for us. for me I rather go with the small rig , it has provision for future expansion with cnilenes
Excellent review, Henry.👍 thanks for the info. I prolly go for tilta.
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They are so cheep, having each în the kit is useful. I'm on the compact side, but having the smallrig for stacking filters is useful too. Fet both
Fantastic effort, thanks for all this 👍
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I dropped my filter with the tilta mini matte box. And my ff 24-70 vignettes on the wide side with the tilta mattebox
Good review and info. The smallrig mini is more comparable to the Tilta Mini and Smallrig is lighter too.
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Very helpful. Thank you.
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thanks for the video!
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Great comparison, cheers mate
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The smallrig, will support a rokinon xeen 50mm. With 115mm rig?
I’ve seen some sites that list the front diameter as 114 and some as 117.6 so I’m not sure.
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@@henrymediagroup absolutely. Liked and subscribed. Answered all my questions!
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I have the tilt a, it’s okay. I do need to screw the 77mm filter on the front of the step down clampring to avoid vignetting on a 24mm lens on my FX6 which occurs when i keep it on the lens itself
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Thank you so much for your support on the video as well!
Smallrig now have a mini version!
Yes, and we have made a new video about the new SmallRig Mini Mattebox, hope it helps! Here is the link to the review video:
th-cam.com/video/dCHeZtSYtUc/w-d-xo.html
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Hmm was about to buy the smallrig..now i need to review the tilta..thnx! 😁
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great video
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I want to buy the matte box from smallrig but I still have the doubt if it works well for use in the gimbal.
thanks for this! mini matte box it is for sony....! SMALL rig for my RED
You are very welcome! I’m glad that the video helped! We are very excited for you getting the matte boxes too! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
If you don’t use cine lenses the smallrig it s ridiculous! I have the tilta and i’m super happy, fits perfectly, sized just right! The filters, just use a variable nd with a step down ring and that s it. But beware at 16mm strongly vignetting. From 20 onward you re fine. Form me tilta
Nice job !
Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
great video man! can you recommend some ND and Mist filters for the Tilta that are good for won't break the band but decent quality. thanks again!
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! I have been using the PolarPro variable ND and it is amazing because it has very little colour cast and it is very convenient. It is not the cheapest but it will last you a long time as long as you take good care of of it. I don’t use mist filter unfortunately. Hope it helps!
I got the small rig and I appreciate the review and comparison. I'm coming from a much larger and heavier matte box so the small rig is ok for me weight wise and just feels better, but you made alot of good points about the tilta as well, so thank you!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience here! You are very welcome! Thank you so much for your support on the video as well!
Hi, i was hoping you would have demonstrated that Smallrig box can also be mounted on 15mm rails with an adapter
Thank you for the suggestion! We will try to get our hands on the adapter! Thank you so much for your support as well!
@@henrymediagroup The 1st time I did a paid gig outside on a rainy day, I realized, "i really need a cheap mattebox". Shelters the lens surface from raindrops! Smallrig is better for me because it can shelter bigger lenses also. Even some wide angle lenses without threads, when using the 15mm support bracket.
I see. That's true! That's a great use of a matte box too! Definitely keep us updated when you get your matte box!
Fantastic comparison, just found your channel. Great work man!
I’m so glad that you like the video! Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
I own both. One (Tilta) is on my smaller rig on my GH5s set on a weebill-s gimbal. The other (Smallrig) in on my shoulder rig/ ronin-m gimbal and Bmpcc6k. The two filters on the smallrig is definitely an option that Tilta should add in their upcoming matte boxes.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience here and thank you so much for your support on the video!
Is there a set of ND Panels that you recommend for the Tilta mini box? Great work :))
How to use Smallrig matte box with my circular VND or Polariser filters? In my opinion this is a real issue.... The lack of internal threads on the rings is a real disappointment
I am going to get the Smallrig, I just wished it had side flag attachments.
Awesome
Thank you so much!
Hi just want to know if I can use variable ND with tilta matte box ?
That is why I will continue with the tilta. You can use a step up and step down ring to add spacing and use a variable nd. That is how I prefer to set up. You will have to experiment with lenses to see if you get vignettes though.
This isn’t necessarily a negative comment on these products, but instead a question I am genuinely curious about. Why buy either box only to have to purchase ridiculously expensive glass filters for them? I can buy a matte box for $15 to shade my lens, so why do I need a box to take filters I can’t afford? Is there a cheaper way to get the glass filters or is it just to make my rig look cooler?
Nice review. My only issue is that my lenses are 80mm OD and 95mm OD... I would rather clamp them on directly to them rather than screwing on an adapter to each of the lenses on each swaps.... do you know if there’s like an “adapter ring” that I can use rather than screwing on a step up each time?
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! That’s a great question! I think the only other solution is to use a rod system to put the matte box in front of the lens instead of mounting it on directly. Hope it helps!
SmallRig, definitely. When you get bigger cameras, everything gets big so, Titla would be a waste of money. I like to future proof things or be ahead. I don't really care about looking cool and sleek.
The more professional I look, the more buck's in my account. 🥂🎬🎞
The only part of the Smallrig box made from carbon fibre is the top flag.
The body is made from abs plastic (with a carbon fibre looking finish) with a thin metal mount.
One of the reviews on B&H indicates that the Smallrig scratches the edges of the filters after a while. Have you found this to be true? That would be a dealbreaker for me.
Have you actually tried using filters in the Tilta matte box? They don't slide around and they don't slide out. They fit snuggly.
Cool !!! 👍
Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
Thanks a lot for your video. Where do I get the rectangular ND filters for the Tilta or the small rig ?
You are very welcome! That’s a great question! You can get the 4 x 5.65 filters at B&H or Amazon. The SmallRig matte box can also take 4 x 4 filters, but the Tilta mini matte box cannot. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
I love those back led lights, could you please send me their link. Thank you!
If you are talking about the led light panels, here is the link:
amzn.to/3ouv2Qy
Thank you so much for your support on the video!
@@henrymediagroup thanks a lot!
You are very welcome! Thank you so much for your support!
Man I really can't decide! I wish small rig was, well, smaller but I don't like that tilta only has one slot and it's all the way up front. Tilta includes the rail adapter and small rig doesn't. Whichever I go with I'll probably have a little buyer's remorse either way haha.
i have both, at first the tilta was fine but it doesnt help as much from keeping flares off from the sides thats why i bought the smallrig one, yes its a bit bigger but theres very little difference in weight
That’s true, it really depends on what kind of setup you have. For my smaller setup, the Tilta one is better, but the filter tray is not the most ideal. Hope you can get the one that suits you! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Yes, both of them are very similar in terms of weight. I’m glad that you got both for different purposes! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
damn i wish you made this video before i purchased my small rig matte box, i shoot with a very small sony a 6400 and when the smallrig matte box arrived in the mail and i saw how big it was i was shocked. needless to say im buying the tilta one
Same it looks so much smaller in the video
I never understood why matte boxes were so pricey, at last we get them for what they are truly worth. $99 and nothing more
I'm considering getting the tilta matte box to mount on a lens with a 82mm filter thread, but I'm wondering if I will be able to use my existing 82mm circular variable nd filter. You talk about the adapterrings having threads on the other side as well, but I'm unsure of the size is the same? Thanks for a great vid!
That’s a great question! Unfortunately my 82mm PolarPro variable ND filter won’t fit because it is too big and it won’t fit from the front of the Tilta matte box, so I think other 82mm filters won’t fit from the front too. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your kind words and support!
I have two GH5’s with Tilta matte boxes.
Hi Henry, first of all amazing videos, maybe you can help me, do you know if the nato handle is compatible with any tilta nato rail incorporated on their cages? could you please check this? thank you so much in advance
Hi, thank you so much for your kind words and support! That’s a great question! Unfortunately we don’t have a Tilta cage with nato rail to test it, but you can always add a nato rail onto any cages with quarter twenty mounts. Hope it helps!
But can I stack a circular filter and then a 4x5 filter with the tilta?
can a 3d printed device overcome the filter issue on the tilta? Im gonna get the tilta and make an adapter to fit the cheaper filters
which diferences have 4x4 filters and 100 mm x 100 mm filters???? please is urgent
Hi! I am using zeiss cp3 cine lenes. How can use these lenses in smallrig mattbox? Because it has no filter thread?
i heard about issues with using circular 82m NDs because they don't fit with TIlta? True? and work around? thanks again!
Bought the Tilta one but cant find anywhere the front filter that is the size of the Tilta matte box
Quick question!
So if my lens is a 82mm and I got a circular mist filter on to match (82mm) will the tilta box work?
Small rig is better in every way except size
Can i use my old vnd filter which attach on the lens with any of these matte box ?
So after watching this review, you recommend the tilta, But then proceed to tell us how the smallrig mattebox is better in every way!
Have you looked at the small rig mini matte box?
That’s a great question! We will be reviewing the SmallRig Mini Matte Box soon, stay tuned! Thank you so much for your support!
@@henrymediagroup it seems to be closer in size. I'm probably still going to go with the regular small rig matte box for more future proofing.
Yes, the SmallRig Mini Matte Box is closer to the Tilta Mini Matte Box in size. The regular SmallRig Matte Box is definitely more future proof for different setups.
I have a 55mm diameter fisheye/hood fixed and a 67mm diameter zoom.. Is there a way to use the smallrig on both? How woukd it work to step up from 55mm?
I have a similar scenario. I have a smallrig gopro cage that's 52mm.
I think I can use a stepup adapter (52mm to 72) as long as it's threaded as well and then attach the SmallRig MatteBox via the 72-114mm that's included.
I just have to make sure it doesn't vignette.
#NotAnExpert
@@HondaFit4Adventure 'as long as it's threaded as well' What do you mean by that? There's no thread on a lenshood or curved lens.. (English is not my first lan, maybe I just don't understand it..)
Great video! So is it at all possible to use a screw on variable nd on the lens, then a step up ring (the trick on one of your other videos) on the small rig? Or can you only do that on the Tilta. Thanks
Yes, you can put a fixed, not variable ND, on your lens first, then put on the SmallRig adapter as long as your fixed ND has threads. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support on my videos!
@@henrymediagroup Ah ok thanks, I was looking to use a variable ND so that’s a pain.
You are very welcome!
I use a variable ND filter with the Smallrig. This it what I do. I mount the 77mm variable ND on whatever lens I'm using, with step up rings as needed. I then use a rail system, usually with my gripped Fuji X-H1 in a cage. I use the next size up adapter ring mounted in the matte box, but without the lens attached. I let the variable ND "float" just inside the matte box. It works a treat.
@@dougmacmillan1712 Is it possible to adjust the ND while it is in the matte box? and also do you know which VND you have? Thanks for the reply.
I could not disagree more. Size (and consequently weight) is the ONLY advantage for the Tilta. All the other points lead to Smallrig. Two square filters, 2mm or 4mm thickness, secure fit larger lenses, use of circular filters for larger lenses too, sturdier. Well, you catch my drift.
No one stays a videographer for long. Get the smallrig mattebox as it will adapt to the size of cameras you'll be shooting on in the future. The tilta has too short of a lifespan if all it can hold is one filter and only attaches to 77mm stills glass.
I think both have its targeted users, pros and cons, but if your primary filters are round filters and you want better portability and compact size, the Tilta Mini Matte Box is hard to beat compared to what is available in the current market for the price range. SmallRig should have integrated the feature of internal round filters in their design as this would have broaden their target market and use. Hopefully SmallRig decides to modify their clamp rings and add those inner filter threads in the future! If you do own the Tilta Mini Matte Box, and want to use the larger 82mm filters, then check out the 82mm Clamp Ring Hack we did th-cam.com/video/vjVOdx_b99Y/w-d-xo.html
Do you need a support rod to hold the small rig matte box in place? Or can you just clip it on to the lens without support ?
That’s a great question! You don’t need a support rod for both matte boxes because they are clamp on matte box. The support rod is needed if you have a heavy lens. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support!
I own a lot of vintage lenses, but I still think even the Tilta wouldn’t work with my setup because they’re too small.
That’s true. I think Tilta sells a lot of sizes of adapter, hopefully you can find the ones that fit your lenses! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
@@henrymediagroup No problem! I really like the comparison! You should check out Of Two Lands video, he did a similar comparison.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! That means a lot to me! Yes, I have seen that review too! Always love his videos! I actually messaged him to chat about our review videos being so similar haha.
@@henrymediagroup Haha that’s great!
Thank you!
What is the right hand grip?
That’s a great question! That is a camera hand strap that I got from Amazon, here is the link:
amzn.to/3c3bVt7
Hope it helps!
@@henrymediagroup much appreciated!
You are very welcome! Thank you so much for your support!
So, with the smallrig, can I still somehow use my 82mm front thread Variable ND filter with the matte box attached? Maybe if I get the 15mm rod mount? I am interested in the matte box, but don't want to have to throw out several variable NDs!
OK..... watched another video and it seems that maybe with the 15mm rod supporting the box you can just leave the matte box lens mount a bit loose and then you would be able to rotate the ND 0 since that doesn't need to be too tight. A bit awkward maybe, but does that make sense?
That’s true, I think that’s the easiest solution to use variable ND with this type of matte boxes. Let us know if it works out! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
Hi. Another option to use circular filters are these fader plates. They slide in the square filter tray and have a threaded hole to attach a circular filter. I’ve just got one in preparation for the SmallRig Matte Box to arrive. Hopefully, as I have 82mm filters but my largest lens in 77mm, it won’t lead to vignetting. Here’s the link:
www.lockcircle.com/store/?p=matbox/matbox_pro
Can this be fit on Samyang 14mm Smallrig
Tilta Mini Matte Box perfectly match to Samyang 14mm t3.1
Anyone tried these on gimbals?
Ronin S/RS2?
How about weight difference?
That's a great question! The weight difference is very minimal, they are both very light. Hope it helps! Thank you so much for your support on the video!
In the beginning you say to get the Tilta mini, then proceed to tell us why the smallrig is better in just about every way lol
This is not the mini... Right?
Sounds like Smallrig is the best choice based on your video. Looks aren't everything Tilta.
SmallRig definitely has more features and is more future proof than the Tilta one, that’s why I think a lot of people will get the SmallRig matte box. Thank you so much for your support on the video!
I don't see any reason to buy cheap matte box, later U will pay twice for this decision, or triple, or quadruple times. Arri, Bright Tangerine or OConnor is only way to go.
Weird video comparison when you don't even compare the actual small one by Small Rig! It is SmallRig Mini Matte Box Lite which is much smaller and lighter than the one you are reviewing.
It's not a mini mattebox.
You need to remove that stupid "MATTE-BOX" decal off the flag on the SmallRig unit.
if you have 114 mm lens nobody will buy this matebox ever