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You are insane for even thinking these movements are for the average person wanting to get strong. Training like a power lifter is way better than doing clean and jerks. It’s better to train with control rather than this CrossFit horseshit. You promoting spine snapping at best.
Train like a powerlifter enjoy yourself
Unless you’re a professional athlete, you should generally just train in a way that makes you happy
@@BGeezy4sheezyand only train like a athelete, if you're.. yk a professional athlete
@@BGeezy4sheezy Like you know. A powerlifter
Yea but training like a powerlifter is not good for longevity
@@emiribric4294 eh, depends on your training style. Many powerlifters train low RPE, very sustainable programs. many of them do lots of unsustainable high volume, high intensity programs. depends on the person really. Take a look at sheiko style programs. probably some of the most sustainable training out of ANY sport, let alone powerlifting, and it works great.
I sadly have to train like one because I am one 😢
Ok
😅
But that's ok!
Me too lol
Real😭
Garage strength: stop lifting, like powerlifters
Also garage strength: power snatches….
Me: ah so Olympic lifts 😂
powerlifting and olympic weightlifting are two different things
@@jaycollett2853
Hello. What is Better for MMA?
I want to start Doing weights for MMA so I would Appreciate if you could inform me of the Difference between the two?
Thank you for your Time
@jaycollett2853 he never claimed they were the same. That's why he wrote:" ah so olympic lifts."
@@leo0367 he's implying without claiming you thought you did something didn't ya nerd?
That squat in the beginning with over a thousand lbs was pretty damn explosive. This makes no sense what he's talking about here
Think a boxers jab or a sprinters start like explosiveness.
I think usable explosiveness is a better word. Think about it this way while on the way up heavy squat/dead/bench is very explosive however long brace and singular motion is not ideal for instantaneous explosion for sports.
This training methodology is great for increasing raw power and setting a great base for explosive training.
explosive as in speed. if you tried to jump at the same speed you did a squat max, you wouldnt leave the ground. Athletes do training to not only have stronger muscle, but faster muscle. Powerlifters generally don't squat as fast as you would jump so its not good for training your vertical for example. Athletes do a lot of light weight or weightless plyometrics which helps build up speed from a still position to move faster, jump higher, and change directions quicker. I say all this as a powerlifter myself.
Just say you suck at sports
as a powerlifter you want to recruit as much as possible. As an athlete you want to recruit as quick as possible
Jump, sprint, lift heavy, lift fast, rest, eat, Drink, play sports, enjoy life.
Train like a strongman!
Don’t bro the amount of food and calories they have to eat is not ok dudes are gonna die at like 60 😭
@@SCP-38I2 with the exception of Jon Paul who died from a genetic disease all of the 70's 80's and 90's professional strongmen are still alive. Bodybuilders die a lot more frequently. Cross fit is to new
@@SCP-38I2how tf are you dying at 60 exercising
@@peterk.2108 dude do you know what a strongman has to do? They have to keep their body weight at ridiculously high levels for most times which puts a lot of pressure on their heart, and a lot of that body weight is not only muscle but fat too, they have to eat around 8k or even more calories to maintain it which isn’t very healthy at all
no im a powerlifter i will continue to train like one thank you very much
Almost no one does Olympic lifting here. I stick out like a sore thumb!
If they remove it from the Olympics what will it be called?
@@alanrastellilifting
@@alanrastelliThe sport was always officially just named "weightlifting." People say "Olympic lifting" only because it's less ambiguous.
no one cares if you train different to everyone else just carry on training how you want
@@jaycollett2853 I know. It's just that they're so puzzled because I use light weights (50% BW) to work on technique while the norm is >100% BW for deadlifts.
I train like a powerlifter because that’s my goal. But could incorporate some cleans and snatch. The numbers just don’t go up though lol on those lifts.
If you compete then thats fine. Problem is most gym rats dont compete.
@dnegel9546 yeah then wonder why they're sucking wind after two sprints down the court.
Nah I don’t be sucking wind after sprints and yeah tryna get ready to compete.
if u practice them more then the numbers will definitely go up. its really mostly technical on weightlifting movements rather than pure strength reliant like SBD. not to say strength doesnt matter tho because it absolutely does. but if u dont practice weightlifting movements consistently then the weight on the bar will progress very slowly for sure
@@dnegel9546you don't have to be a competing power lifter to train like one because you enjoy it as a h hobby or lifestyle what's
You have to build a foundation first with those major lifts before you can screw around with everything else.
True in a lot of cases, not every case, though.
That is not true at all. Powerlifting and olympic weightlfting are two different sports
@@LucasDimoveo that’s true, but wouldn’t you think someone would say, benefit from doing front squats for cleans
If you didn't know, alot of powerlifters already do this on their warmup sets and secondary days.
Powerlifting is literally creating massive amounts of explosive force to move weight quickly. They don’t “struggle to recruit quickly”
I know, I know....but unfortunately they do 😂
Exactly lol. A lot of powerlifters (or at least the ones who are smart) incorporate plyometrics in their workouts as well. People love to talk about things they know nothing about.
Except that it isn’t. It is about creating massive amounts of force to move weight incrementally. Heavy squats barely helped my vertical, for example
you're confusing maximal recruitment with rate of recruitment. Snatches for example are the most powerfull movement you can do despite the wr being a lot lighter than a squat yet their is a clear difference in power production
when your doing heavy squats you must move the weight as faast as possible @@JohnSmith-oe5kx
Mario rios would love this guy
This is like those dorky shoes they promised would make you jump higher.
Powerlifters are taught to be explosive with the competition lifts already through all the warmups leading to the top set
And then there is this guy selling bull . Train like a powerlifter if you want to be a powerlifter. And there are all kinds of different ways to train ‘like a powerlifter’. Some of them are explosive as sh*t.
He's talking to athletes (as he's an athlete trainer). And he's correct. Nothing wrong with doing powerlifting movements in your routine as an athlete, but the focus should be on explosivity
Garage Strength's target audience is student athletes, not powerlifters. His advice makes perfect sense.
@@theaccordian9377issue is u can't train power. No one goes from a 22 inch svj to a 36. Or we all could be NFL athletes.
I don’t think in bjj we use power in every move..some moves are more isometric and some require slow strength..we literally use everything in mma.
As someone that isn't trying to be an athlete. Ill train how i want to. Thanks though.
Stupid guy
I’m 57 and I listen to my body, not an influencer on TH-cam.
Does training with Olympic lifts help with increasing the ratio of fast-twitch fibres for power sports that require it?
Or are the changes mostly neurological?
I don't get why people don't understand this man trains aphletes. And this channel is for people who want to improve at a certain sport. Strength training is one part of a bigger program as let's say someone who plays football. Their training needs to incorporate movements that will actually benefit their strength, flexibility, mobility and coordination.
For a person with specific goals they need to train with those goals in mind.
If you're training for health or gains train like a powerlifter.
If you're a powerlifter train like a powerlifter no shit.
If you're anything else, then training like a powerlifter is less efficient. Than if you where to train with your sport in mind.
Think before you comment lol.
Conditioning yes, but if you belive you can train power and not as a by product of strength u r in for a let down.
@@griffin7274 Yes by training and progressing movements beneficial to their sport. Not by following a cookie cutter powerlifting routine. I think you should reread what I said. Because nowhere did I say to not strength train.
If you believe the only movements that build strength are basic powerlifting movements. And that an athlete only needs strength, then you know nothing about training.
Step 1. Build a base by using foundational compound lifts (Squat, Deads, Bench, OHP) and playing sports regularly
Step 2. Be kind of strong now and start to focus more on Sports specificity
Step 3. Keep getting strong but add more and more sports specificity
Step 4. Start to miss getting ridiculously big and strong.
Step 5. Powerlifting becomes your sports specificity!
Step 6. Realize you miss being athletic and get into strongman.
Step 7. Profit.
To maximise speed and power your training needs to address both sides of the force velocity curve during training blocks. High weight low rep resistance training is the best way to increase one’s ability to produce maximal force (I.e the force side of the curve) and the other exercises he recommend are great for improving one’s rate of force production I.e (the velocity side of the curve). Both are required to optimise power.
I see a lot of powerlifter in the comments upset… he’s an Olympic lifting coach.
Saying to train like an athlete is so ambiguous as there are a number of disciplines you can train for, and so the training for an endurance runner is going to look very different than a sprinter. To suggest a powerlifter isn’t an athlete in their own right is ridiculous
Says impulse uses the exact definition for power #charlatan
I prefer muscle. What do you then suggest?
So why exactly do we have to stop training like powerlifters? It all depends on what your goals are.
Just because a given load is observed as moving slowly doesn't indicate the sheer violence of force being applied to the load to make it move.
One thing to ask yourself is why am I training like an athlete in a sport I don’t play? Train for longevity train hard yes but keep that meat machine healthy!
I’m gonna have to pass on this one champ
Absolutely correct. Burst!
A powerlifter can't win a weightlifting compitition but a weightlifter can win a powerlifting compitition so ....
Powerlifting is not the same thing as strength training. It's like comparing tennis to baseball just because the both swing at balls. It's not the same.
But if I want to succeed at powerlifting, should I not train like a powerlifter? How will cleans and snatches help me - as in why pick on powerlifters specifically? I think we should just train for our goals.
If you want to be athletic and stuff, maybe going all in on powerlifting isn't the best idea. Vice versa, if you want to succeed at powerlifting, train the movements you'd be expected to perform at a meet
Bro if u wanna be a power lifter traint like a power lifter
Stop training like a *powerlifter* for increased explosiveness and power
Train for your goals.If you wanna get stronger and thats it then train like a powerlifter
Or a strongman 😁
Jumping over hurdles is more fun than powerlifting.
I am trying to lift 200kg in deadlift. So I keep training like powerlifters.
Thats how a powerlifter trains
Look at westside guys
No side effects powerlifting its best our body
Please, please, NEVER do snatches, cleans and jerks unless you know proper technique. These exercises are very technically demanding and WILL lead to injury, if you do them incorrectly. Also, olympic lifting is a difficult sport of its own, you can't mix it up with other types of exercises too much. So if you wanted to do snatches, cleans etc., you would have to train like an olympic lifter, more or less. Just like you would train more or less like a powerlifter in order to move big weights.
Surely, everyone is unique, and so should be your training routine, but there're also some arbitrary rules that most find useful.
Your body needs to recover from physically demanding exrecises, such as any kind of weightlifting, olympic lifting even more so. You simply won't be able to train effectively and maintain a good technique, if you also start doing a lot of cardio, for instance.
Boys, training like a powelifter is fine, but he's talking about this from an explosive athlete perspective. Some pylometrics wouldn't hurt to add
I see you got too injured to lift what you could and leaned out and done bb or CrossFit type stuff like all us older powerlifters. 👍👍
His focus is on a functional body in all aspects I presume l, hence why speed and explosiveness is important as he points out, if your focus is on strength then obviously go for it
He doesn't do powerlifting.
No, I do want to train like a powerlifter
But.... but I am a powerlifter 😢
Train like each kind of lifter at different times of the year
Proceeds to train like an Olympic lifter
By impulse he means impact on your joints
no he means recruit as much motor units as possible as quick as possible
What about that Anatoly guy, he lifts heavy weights like its nothing and he has a good physique that isn't too bulky or slow
Aside the bullshit that is colossal.
Olympic lifts are very very technically difficult. You can't just pick a barbell and start doing them 😑
The caveat here being if you want to improve your athleticism.
Looking leaner Dane! Beast
Nah dawg since I found out about powerlifting even if I want to my subconscious mind won't let me go back to that bodybuilding bs I just love to slam them weights
JM would disagree.
Powerlifting is good if u mix it up with calisthenics
Or, or, hear me out.... Train however YOU enjoy
Who is guy in first clip ??
Or you could use accomodating resistance on the bar and lift explosively, and incorporate jumping. The Olympic lifts have a steep learing curve and not necessary.
that doesnt mean you cant do them. you dont even need to learn the full Clean and jerk or a full snatch. you'll be just fine with hanging power cleans and hanging power snatches which both only take 2 or 3 sessions to learn the correct mechanics
@jaycollett2853 you could do them, or not. Won't make or break the athlete. And yes hang snatch and cleans are easier to learn.
You think they can't lift a lighter weight more quickly?! 😂
Power is genetically a gift. We cant train the svj. Power inly increases as a buy product of strength. This is why we all cant be nfl athletes
Coach… but I want to be a powerlifter
I could never get into the Olympic style training, not my thing.
Is it just me or does Dan have abs now. I’ve been watching the channel for a long time.
Doesn't make sense. Powerlifting with high intensity trains effective recruitment of muscle fibers. You basically need it to be able to max out on a lift. And a lot of powerlifters do speed rep training too. The reason powerlifters don't look explosive when you see them is that they are moving high percentage of max weights, which is never fast. Is it for everyone? No. But muscle fiber recruitment is probably not the right argument.
Str vs pwr
I train like a Birdiebuilder 🐦, because I want to become one. 🎉😊❤
I do a little bit of both
Strength>>>speed
You cannot lift heavy with speed
The video is obviously aimed at people looking to improve their “jumping ability, acceleration and athleticism.” He literally says it. And powerlifting is indeed nowhere near as good as Olympic weightlifting and plyometrics at doing that. Arguing the point is just silly
also every sport trains differently for different purposes. olympic weightlifting isnt good for some sports aswell
@@jimmy3k767 Of course. But name a sport for which powerlifting is better training than Olympic weightlifting
@@JohnSmith-oe5kxbaseball, swimming, javelin toss, volleyball, mma. theres more
when the last time time you seen a mma fighter do olympic weightlifting over powerlifting@@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@@jimmy3k767 Powerlifting isn't good for any of those. Never mind
But.... I'm a power lifter
Stop… taking advice from someone on steroids unless you are on steroids
Crossfit energy
That is literally like saying that an astrophysicist struggles with physics
He’s pretty much saying if you use powerlifting as an excuse to be fat stop it get some help
No he's not. He's saying that powerlifters train for strength, but athletes need to train for explosiveness
@@kobu1468 you didn’t get the joke!
Stop !!!!!! being like every other fitness influencer..
and what if all powerlifters stop training like powerlifters? I don't think most people know how powerlifters train. Not everything is Westside! *lol*
You know, I just wanna look lean and shredded, but the desire to be strong is too strong... 😂
Wrong 😑.. train like a power lifter ..
Purely salesman
Your benefits is for athlete's and there benefits is to be strong so all you said here was train for what you do 😂😅 got it
Stop telling people to train like other people....the gym is a personal experience...... if we choose to lift use strongman training . ..(Butt)
Yawns
That's crossfit
Every single thing you've said is unsubstantiated folk lore that has been disproven by the last 60 years of motor learning research. Pick up a motor learning book bro.
Perform concentric actions at higher speed for greater strength response. I.E. Technical coordination, plyometric movements and reflexive work.
Powerlifters are not strong! Why do people not understand this
Often time they’re on steroids
F**k it I am strong and I will train like strongman
Nahh, I like lifting heavy 😊
The day when youtube shillfluencing will burn i will be the first to light a cigar from the flames and walk away
No thank you I like my joints how they are
Don't train calisthenics either lmao
Do you, just do it well. Fuck the noise
Powerlifting gives me the sadz
Wtf is he talking about
Someone show this to Mario.
Explosive training in the gym does not make you a explosive athlete, in fact it will make you worse
Stop telling us what to do.