Day 4, Hour 82, Suboxone Withdrawal (NOT A HORROR STORY)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2017
- I am making these videos to help myself get through these hard times, and to hopefullu help anyone seeking it.
I was on 6-8mg of Suboxone a day for 8 years.
I hope that through my experience you find some strength.
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Maybe wait until your further along in your recovery to make videos. It's hard sometimes to stay interested in what your saying because of your withdrawl and how it affects ones ability to stay one one thought or another. When you start to share something with us, and we're waiting for your observation because we are in the same boat as you.....but you then jump to another thought without finishing the last 4 thoughts etc........it's hard on the viewer. I'm not being rude but just honest.
Cynthia Morgan Appreciate your thoughts but Im sure that 99% of my viewers are here to see real life as it unfolds. The point of my channel wasnt to give oscar winning performances. It is meant to show what I went through as I went though it. Plain and simple. You are the 1st person out of over 1000 to leave any such comment. So while I do appreciate your feedback, I do think you may be mistaken about the intention of this channel.
He acts fine to me!!!
Cynthia Morgan so negative
I liked the authenticity bro. Hope you're still clean. Big love bruh
@@mrtambourineman6107 Thank you sir
Today is 5 days off of Suboxone cold turkey I am starting to focus on my hygiene a lot more and my appearance I want to start eating better and I have the urge to work out and I never had that before so my attitude is really good now I'm going to win this fight...
Did you go cold turkey and how many mg
5 day is the peak. ?
R u still sober? I’m planning on coming off through a treatment center next week. I’m scared as fuck
Thank you for your help. I am Ana from Portugal. I was on Suboxone for 9 years. I decided to jump off. I am on day 4. You have helped me get through this. I hope that you are free and healthy. I am on my way. No turning back now.
Did you go back? Or still clean ?
Hope you made it!! I am titrating off 135 mgs methadone and am on 17 mgs currently. It sucks that it gets harder as you go lower.
@@themapsarewrongandthetimel8722 did you jump to subs? I had one dose of meth. But that can cause precipitate withdrawal. How long till it doesn't
@@patfenis7325 it 's different for everyone, you need to be in significant withdrawal to make the switch without causing precipiated wds. I am on 16 mgs of methadone...i wanted to stabilize here and then continue dropping 1 mg a week from here on down. I wanted to switch to subs, but no one at my clinic has ever inducted someone...and the Dr. is literally never around anymore, so just another roadblock to stretch out my titration. My counselor and the professionals at my clinic have been completely useless in my experience. I am lucky in one respect, my husband is a Registered Nurse, and also in recovery for 25 years. He basically checks my vitals on hard days, like right after a drop, and makes sure I don't die of electrolyte imbalance since I have vomiting and diarreah constantly. I have a rapid metabolism for a female my age, so at the low dose I am on, I am in withdrawal almost 8 hours out of every 24 hour period. But it is definitely getting easier to deal with now. I am so tempted to just bounce out of the clinic and cold turkey the rest of the way off, but have been warned against it.
How are you doing right now?? I never sleep at night...only a few hours right after I dose. I try to get important stuff done during the hours right after my dose, bc I know the rest of my day will be pretty f'up.
@@themapsarewrongandthetimel8722 I'm so sick I don't know what to do with myself. I was shooting so much fentynal just 3 days ago. I took my last shot and knew I had to wait to take some sub so I don't precipitate. So I took methadone like 35 hours ago when it was unbearable. Then the next time it was unbearable I figured I'd be good to take a sub. Boy was I wrong. It went down alot. At midnight I was fucked. I'm feeling better. As long as I can just be comfortable. I won't use. I won't go threw withdrawal much longer 😞. I don't even know what I just typed
I been on subs for 4 years now. While I usually only took 4 mg a day, I came to a point where I had to quit cold turkey, for my kids. They test for that these days. I'm on day 4. Didnt seem so bad at 1st, but I didn't sleep at all hardly. Cold chills are bad and the stomach has probably been the worst problem I've had so far up until today with the chills. Its definitely doable, I've done it before, just not after 4 years of taking them. My only issue is I cant just rest while withdraw. I have a lot going on and have to force myself to do so. Good luck on everyone's journey.
I relate a whole lot to you actually. Been on subs since I was 19 and I'm 23 now. I was always the same with not being able to go through the withdrawals & work and do daily life at the same time. Didn't have anybody to help me with that like this guy does. I still don't know if everybody gets the really bad nodding out shit like I did on the high doses (especiallyafter smoking weed on top), but long story short I was driving and nodded out for literally what seemed like a second or 2 and when I tried to catch myself I was already feet away from smashing someone in the other lane and i did. Got busted with a shit ton of weed plus no license or insurance so that got me probation which I was super lucky to get that slap on the wrist, but the probation officer I got was a real evil, piece of shit person and I'll just leave it at that. When it came down to the random drug screen months down the road I had already told him all about me and subs. And when I was screened and failed for that and weed I didn't have my prescription bottle on me because I never wanted to have drugs in the car with me after all that. And I always heard he was the worst one out there but this is when he really showed it, he started treating me like I was lying and that I was getting them illegally!! Saying he "knew I was probably lying" and about how people come in there to the test without their prescriptions all the time and "spit that same bullshit". APPARENTLY he doesn't give a shit what the excuse is, if you don't have the proof then and there you're gonna be signing your own warrant for arrest and he will NOT let you have a chance to show it to him another time, he won't even let you speak. Literally. I got 40 days jail time for that. 40. Almost got 3 months. That scarred me for life since then and was the worst experience of my life mostly because of the reason and being during the lowest of the lowest point of my life to top it off.
I came to find out from a surprising amount of other people that he did the same things to other's and some had even worse stories about him. I just recently found out that he quit too. And not sure how true this is but apparently he's been spotted coming and going from drug houses. But, I definitely did come to blame subs for putting my life at that point and after that 40 days in hell I never went back to it. You slowly more and more come to realize how much better off you really are without that doing what it does to you, we're just way too blind to realize what it's really doing to yourself while on that. I barely even listened to music anymore while on subs, that was the craziest and best part was really starting to FEEL music again.
Sorry for the long story. I hope you're doing great and better each day. Remember that life really can truly be the best high of all and don't let anything or anyone take that feeling from you doll.💙
Honestly in 2007 when i was put on it i had NO IDEA what i was gettin into
Day 5 after 10 years of Tex .I am alive. I won't look back.
Thank you for the smile and prayer .🌱
Im Proud of you!+
Here it is 5 years later and your videos are still bringing hope and inspiration to people who struggle with this. I just want say thank you !
Nice to see fresh comment
I was on subotex for 10 years this is my 3 day of going cold turkey .. but I can really say that your videos helped me true the sleepless nights which are so hard to get over .. so thank you
I was on subs for 12 years and that was my doc wich is crazy for some people to believe. And I thought I was dying and there are no videos that showed people going threw it and it would have helped so so much
I can sure see the bright light coming from your soul! You are amazing. Thank you for putting yourself out there to help everyone.
I am starting my journey off. Tapering down - I like you took my prescription as prescribed, no slip ups, no bad pee tests - I am so ready for this but terrified at the same time. Thank you.
Great job and thank you for your videos...I’m 8 mths clean and I’m telling you what this has been the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life...the mental part of it is the worst part of the whole process but I’m taking it day by day and trying to watch a lot of different people’s experiences and that really helps. Stay strong friend and thank you for your input!
This is hands down one of the best detox vids on TH-cam. Thank you for your journey, and words of motivation. I am praying for you bro.
This is the best video out there. This was a great video because it was much different then other videos. If anything to me it felt very raw and real. Great video man i hope you are still doing great.
im detoxing now from subs. great inspiration. im not so scared now. thank you so much...
Tammy Marshall These kinds of comments make it all worth it. You've got this friend.
Tammy Marshall qt
how are you doing now????? i'm currently detoxing
I’m in day 4, dude you changed so much from this video to the day 40 something video. You can tell a huge difference in tour face and all and you look a lot better! Appreciate all your supportive words and knowledge bro.
ive offically been off suboxone for 2 years. holy shit i can't believe i can say that. i never thought it was possible. fuck suboxone.
Can't thank you enough for making this video. Most videos I see are from people well after the worst of withdrawals and seeing your videos have made me feel not so alone I'm on day 2 feeling really bad but so done with suboxone and now more determined than ever to keep fighting through this. Thank you
Love you brother, This helps like you wouldnt belive
I just came across ur videos n actually went here to this page (way not a TH-cam guy that knows how comments n anything other than watching em works) but I haven't seen any other videos other than URS n I plan to just watch URS but I'm starting myself and same age n roughly same creditionals down to the timing almost so I just wanted to say ty and if not one of the I AM THE GUY YOU HELPED and ty really ty I can't say it enough ty
Props to you for sharing man!
God bless you brother. I can't tell ya just how much I respect and love ya for doing these vids. I see a genuine person when I see you and that's very rare for me these days. So I love ya brother and I truly hope and pray that God gives you the desires of your heart..
Jerry & Tina King Far too kind. I wish all the same for you and yours
Thank you. Just watched this today and really related. Trying to get off Suboxone and hope I can soon. Will continue to watch tomorrow!
Welcome Carol. You are on the heros path now. Only way is up from here : )
Thank you wes 2 days in after 14 years. Pretty Low right now no sleep arms and legs crawling. But I’m committed and your videos are saving me
Good luck man I'm in the same boat as you I was an addict 25 years last year in January I quit Suboxone it's 12 months yesterday I hope everything keeps going good and I made videos just like you all the best Terry
Terry leigh Thanks Terry. Day 148 for me today. Doing great. Glad you are too!
I agree 100% NEVER take more than 2 mg.
Thanks buddie for this video!
Game Changer The clinic I go to makes you start on 8 mg 😔 I tried to quit and lasted 3 weeks (all 3 times) and I took the 8 mg but went right back down to 4mg the next day! They shouldn't start ppl on 8mg it is just a money making business only! I have went for 5 years and not once was I asked to go down! It takes alot of motivation to go down on your own cause they talk you into going up any time you have any problems! They also asked me many times to switch to methadone and I refused! It also takes alot of motivation because they charge you the same no matter what mg you are on! That is just subutex!
@@heatherbartholomew8403 The whole subutex game is a money grab. The program i was in NEVER encouraged you to step down, and would boost your amounts anytime you asked. They want you to be on it so they can get paid. I had to cut the chord. I am going cold turkey as I type this. day 3. I couldn't taper. I'm an addict. Addicts can't really control how much they take. Time to fight it. It's a matter of will power and gutting this out.
I appreciate you Brother! I was 10 days off suboxone and HAD to go back to work, so I started back taking less than before. It sucked that I had to start back but I work for the Mayor of my City & just couldn’t go to work feeling the way I did mentally. For me, the mental part was the WORST when I stopped taking it. I can handle ANYTHING but the mental part. But I WILL get there! Thank you again! Much love to you. I’m smiling right back! lol
Wow same story here, I made it 10 days off it and ended up taking it again because of the mental torture I was in. I’ve been on it for 5 years and am desperately trying to get off of it but the fear of going back to that mental place is keeping me from trying again. This shit is so bad for me. I hope you’re doing alright.
Thanks I'm not looking back! Good vid
I am here watching this video because I’m
About to quit cold turkey. I’m on 1mg per day on it 8 years now, it’s time to go and time to stop. Thank you for this video
I'm on day 4 of subutex detox after four years of maintenance. Its hell but your videos are inspiring. Thank you.
Kirk Wilson how are you doing?!
@@natalieguiliano4430 I relapsed on day 10. Found a crumb of sub in an old script bottle. Its hard.... my cravings are getting worse. But I'm hopeful. Thanks for asking.
Thanks Man, this video helped me a lot. My name's Robbie, please pray for me. I'm worried about what is going to happen but this is going to happen. This ends this week. I start Monday, which is the day after Tomorrow. Thanks again Man, you're the shit.
I have been clean from opiates since Dec 30, 2020, all bc of Suboxone… i too never ever puked from opiate withdrawal… i had diarrhea, restless legs, sneezing, yawning, cold/hot sweats etc… but I always felt lucky that i never puked. I have had it easy as well bc i always had access to money so i never had to resort to H, i just always bought more pills…. But suboxone has saved my life… I remember watching this video still highly dependent on pain meds and im, so glad to ve watching this on subs now… proud of you.
couple months late (hope you’re still doing well) but hey i’m about to start the journey! thanks for the kind & wise words. you remind me of someone, maybe Jordan Peterson... you’re good at speaking/motivating, seems natural for you!
Alexandra K Thank you for the kind words. You are not late at all. Every person who visits my channel does so right when they were supposed to. Same as when I visited other folks channels when I began my journey...I wish you all the strenth and serenity throughout. Please check in as often as you like.
I love you dude❤
I love you. You're a beautiful soul.
Christian Burris Love you too friend : )
Wow you got a troll on here I'm needing videos they are helping me so thank you for this video I'm staying clean and this video is keeping my mind straight to quit
Hey Wess, Good Luck!
Char Williams Thank you Char
I've watched your videos out of order and watching this old one I agree you look alot healthier after quitting! I don't think we realize what it does to us until we quit!
Heather Bartholomew Its scary and amazing to witness. And its not just my physical appearance...you can just tell there was something missing inside of me here...
Goodbye Suboxone Yup like your lost or something.
I’m on day 4 today and this video helped.
Welcome. Glad to hear that my experience can help you in any way. Thats why I made/make these. Keep up the good work and keep us updated on your progress ok Blake.
So proud of you sweetheart
Thanks man. I have 4 months alcohol free. Your videos are inspiring...
Dwight Brown Very proud of you friend. Thank you for sharing. Hopefully someone who is looking to stop drinking finds your comment when they need to. This is how we keep the circle of support alive.
Im tapering off now after 5 years of subutex, Im at 4mg this month and Ill go down 1mg every month for the next 3 then ill be done! I've went through sub withdrawal before so I know I won't die, last time it felt like it took forever to be done but I had to withdrawal in jail so there was no taper it was cold turkey from 8mg this video is very inspiring I know ill be in bed the first couple days for sure, sub withdrawal is worse than any opiate withdrawal and thats just a fact because the buprenorphine binds so tightly to the receptors unlike other opiates. Just know you can get through this if you really want it, just like any other addiction once you have really had enough quitting is the easiest thing to do. Im 35 yrs old and I want to be happy again, subs mess up your serotonin and true happiness is hard to obtain while on Subs. Thanks for these videos man they truly help
Thanks for the videos
Day 2 here thank you!!!
I’m on 3 years off Suboxone, let me tell all you struggling still, you can do it, and you will feel like you can rule the world when it’s over, knowing you’ve beat it, becomes a source of tremendous pride!
How long until these chills and sweats go away? I’m on day 4
My husband Properly 5th round of trying to withdraw watching you again ❤
You are not the only one who doesnt get as sick as others. Ive never puked once either from any withdrawal from opiates or heroin. And i was always the same, i never did huge amounts even in active use but the few times i did i still never had insane withdrawal. But honestly it still sucks of course, just no puking or wretching. Classic insomnia, pains, flu like symptoms. I never get diahrea that bad either from withdrawal.
No puking or anythimg crazy either, just mad rls and insomnia. Legs and arms wont stop all night. Thank god no other symptoms. Lucky too.
How was ur day 4
@@letsgrowtogether7015 days 4 thru 7 were worse than 1 thru 3. After 7 still there still no dleep but def bearable. Had 3 or 4 real real bad days / nights
I just ran across this because I am wanting to get off of subs myself and I think I made it for almost a week straight without any but the worse part for me was the pain in my legs and back was TERRIBLE! Especially the pain in my legs. Its like the worst restless leg syndrome u could ever have. Did that happen with u and how did you get over that, if u don't mind me asking?
I commented this on some Doctors channel and got no response so I’m going to paste it here. Any feedback would be appreciated.
I have a question, I was reading that the sub withdrawal is the worst in the first 72 hrs like I imagined since the heroine and fentanyl were always the worst in those first 3 days. I’m on Suboxone now and have been for 4 years. I was at 24mg a day after only a few months, and now for about the last 3/4 of the year I have been on 28mg. I wanted to see how bad it would be so I thought I would just not take any for as long as I can until I couldn’t stand it and then I would. I get weekly carries now for being clean so long so I only go in once a week to pick up my doses for the week. I last took mine on Thursday morning at about 8:45am March 14th, and it’s now Saturday night at midnight on the 16th. I haven’t hardly had much withdrawals tho and I’m wondering if it’s cause of how high my dose is and the naloxone has maybe countered the effects of it for a while which is why I feel like it hasn’t helped me much over these last years in terms of body aches and feeling good enough to do much, or if it’s just cause it’s a high dose and it hasn’t all completely left my system. Today I was feeling slight withdrawals like the chills then sweats from one second to the next, yawning a lot, runny nose and sneezing, and I’d say slightly more body aches, but I’ve been able to sleep and eat, I haven’t been super restless or bouncing my legs through the ceiling, so I’m a little confused as I figured by now I’d be throwing up everything I eat and shitting a waterfall out me arse. If anyone else has experienced this could you let me know if it’s just cause it’s not all out of my system and that I may feel really sick in the next day or so, or if the naloxone has countered it all these yrs. I heard that the naloxone is only in it to prevent people shooting it and that it doesn’t do anything when ingested/ dissolved under tongue. Also I will add that I have been quite constipated for several weeks, so I haven’t passed much of it out of my system that way, but I know if the sickness is coming that will pass very quickly lol. Also I was told when I started the program that 24mg was the max dose, and I was reading about heavy users who only took 8-12 mg a day and it worked wonders, and here I was at 24mg after only 4 months on the program, and now at 28mg.
UPDATE:
It’s now 3:45 the next day (Sunday March 17th), I’ve now gone 79hrs without the suboxone and my symptoms have stayed about the same. I was able to go to the bathroom this morning, and I’m sure by now it’s all out of my system. I had a pretty shitty sleep tho, waking up every few hrs cause my back had that restless feeling in it you get from withdrawal. But I’m now convinced that the higher the dose, the naloxone cancels out the bupe, cause this is crazy... I used to withdrawal so bad from the fentanyl and heroine, and I see people in here saying the sub withdrawal can be worse, but here I am 79 hrs without it and have very mild to barely any withdrawal symptoms. The chills and sweats are getting annoying and I’m still slightly restless, but it’s not to the point I’m laying on the ground bouncing or kicking my legs around. I have been able to eat as well. I was havin some stomach cramps earlier and felt like I was going to shit myself but it was just mostly gas. I’m probably going to take an 8mg here to get rid of the sweats and chills cause they’re annoying, but definitely going to tell my dr about this cause I’m really surprised at how well I feel for just stopping 28mg for 3 n a half days now cold turkey.
Your videos are helpful
So goodbye Suboxone, you only tapered down to 2 to 4 mg and then one in the last 2 days? I probably won't be able to get down to anything less than 2 with what I have left I'm currently at about 3.5 to 4mg now, I still feel pretty good I've been taking a lot of vitamin C I was on 8 mg probably a month or so ago
What dose were you on before you stopped and did you taper off and if so what was the dose you were taking and mg you last took before you stopped? How many days did it take to completely stop withdrawing?
Today is January 2nd 2018 where are you and your suboxone withdrawal right now you should be doing great can you make a video within the next week so we can see how you're doing?
cher bear Today is day 120 off subs. I will make a video tomorrow (Jan 4th). And yes, I am doing quite well. Thanks for checking in Cher.
Thank you for this video ive been on subs for 9 years nothing else since i started treatment but im ready to be done with them ruleing my life just so im "normal". Im ready to quit and watching your video gives me inspiration. I want my life back to waking up and not needing subs to live. Thank you
Sometimes all we need is a bit of inspiration. For 8 long years I lived in fear of ever trying to quit. My original plan was to be on them for 1 year max. But one year turns into two, and three, etc...
It becomes a vicious cycle of fearing the withdrawal, which keeps you on them...But then the fact we stay on them longer only assures that the withdrawal WILL be worse, and lengthier.
I believe that only the person taking the subs can decide when to stop. One must be ready and fully committed above all else.
Thank you for stopping by and sharing. It means a lot to anyone else who stops by and to me of course. Please feel free to contact me anytime for support friend.
Melissa Fox I wanted to also mention, in case you had not seen my more recent videos, that I am now on day 93. 93 days off the stuff after 8 years of 8mg/day with out tapering. I am not special. If I can do it, anyone can.
You give me hope Melissa Fox keep going strong!
Thank you all for the support i have started to taper and its not that bad. I can and will do this. Its nice to have you guys to talk to.
Goodbye Suboxone I have been keeping up with your video s and you look great and sould be really proud of how far you have came. Sending good vibes keep up the good fight
I'm on day 4 mate
Question for you +Goodbye Suboxone I'm currently on Day 4 and feel the worst..... I'm hungry yet cannot keep anything down????? I just feel like the Flu to the 10th and I NEED to be clear - like you I wasted my 20's and early 30's on pills (crazy amounts) and yeah my insides/mental issues fucking sucks.... it's the insides. I just need to be clear headed since I'm a widow now; I can't lean on anyone to help me through and we have kids :*(
Keep this video up
Your videos are inspirational. I’m ready to get off Suboxone. I’ve been taking for 2 years, up to 16 mg a day. I don’t have a script and I don’t see a dr. I started taking them to get off opiates. It’s helped tremendously. But I need help now. I’m alone in this as my family doesn’t know. I need to start feeling again. I don’t want to be dependent anymore. I need help. I have been down to 8mg a week for about 5 days. I was planning to taper down to 4 mg in another week. It’s hard to get out of bed in the morning. I have responsibilities and can’t spend days in bed but I want to be free of this.
Thank you for putting yourself out there. You should be proud of yourself!
I appreciate that. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done or started doing.. one minute at a time.
Its hard when you can't get out of bed to play with your children and you don't know how long you will feel like crap.
Yet there's an easy albeit temporary solution.
I’m struggling with paws and cravings so bad right now nothing physical except insomnia, anxiety and wanting to get high you give me inspiration thank you and good luck if you have any advice to get through the cravings phase please contact me lol
Hey there Tyler. How many days in are you? Anxiety and insomnia were some of the longest lasting symptoms. It sounds like an impossible task, but if you are able, try to get out and take a walk. Even just be outside and sit if thats all you can do. I can remember having anxiety so bad that I couldnt sit still or do the same thing for more than a minute or two. This is all part of "it". It isn't fun, but it is temporary. The more you are able to wear yourself out physically during the day, the better off you will be. Avoid ANY stimulants such as caffiene. These will make the anxiety worse every time. Honestly I found the most peace during those really tough times either blasting my favorite music, laying in the sun, taking a shower, or watching positive recovery storied on YT. Keep checking in ok. This will get better.
Thanks you today is day 5. I abused sunk one in college to get my chemical engineering degree I I have developed an anger towards suboxone but I’m so up and down mentally. One moment I’m great the next I’m down. Sex is amazing again but hard to last in bed not trying to give too many details lol we have a 9 month old beauitful daughter and it’s freezing here right now so outside isn’t an option and I get stir crazy but I try to stay busy. I’m also an amateur body builder so my diet supplements and exercise are really great I even go to the sauna to sweat and then drink amino acids and electrolytes which accerlerated me through the physical symptoms. Now I’m just battling mental symptoms and my brain saying if you just take a piece of sub you’ll feel awesome.
I apologize for the grammar I typed that on my phone at 3 am lol I meant I abused subs in college to give me some high to cope with the hard work load while getting my engineering degree. Anyways the rest of that message should be legible thanks bro I feel better just talking to someone who’s been there. I’m emotional and feel alone sometimes
tyler brown Make sure that you don't have Subs accessable to you. Its much easier for those waves of craving to pass when taking a pill couldnt be a simple process. For me, I had no $, no trasnportation, and so it was easier to let go. Keep in mind that insomnia worsens depression and axiety. There will be moments where you cab do nothing more than simply promiss yourself that things will get better. This process has really made me apprrciate how delicate our brains are. How much I took happiness and comfort for granted. We begin to understand that we have changed our brain chemistry quite litterally. It is a scary proposition and thank goodness we have the capacity to go back. Keep your focus on the prize ahead...not being a slave to a pill. Being able to travel anywhere in the world without a second thought about maintaining your script. Time will heal and before you know it, 5 days will become 50 days. You are on the winners path.
Thank you my friend as for the accessibility issue it’s not by me but I could drive and get it. I blocked the dealers number but know it by heart and know they would gladly sell me some I was never prescribed this I just started taking it because it was a drug that got me high as a kite with a minimum chance of being tested by future employers ... seems stupid now lol I will not waiver In my stand but sometimes you need to hear or see it’s possible I don’t know how you done it but good for you and I can’t wait to be in your shoes with 100 plus days clean. I take an army of supplements but the one thing I wished they prescribed was time.... time to get past this beast lol
thank you brother on day 11 1/2
It IS a horror story!!!!! Way worse than any opiate! (And many have said even heroin!) I’m proud of you! Watched this and your most recent video. You’re doing and looking great!
3 years clean in August for me! (I have taken Kratom here and there though, some say that’s bad. I don’t really as long as you don’t take crazy amounts and not daily. Definitely not an opiate or anything along the lines of subs though)
Congrats! Best wishes!
Someone please reach out to me, I'm starting day one withdrawals from Suboxone and it's already awful! I need any tip or trick or advice, just need something to help me right now. If anyone has anything to say that will help...by all means please let me know. Thank you
I'm way late in watching this video homie and hoping it worked for you. I've been off and on for about 13-14 years mainly suboxone and the longest I went without was like 65 days and 58 of those days were due to doing jail time. I have to quit soon myself and may also try videos.. but again best of luck.
Joseph McBride what would you go back after three months clean? I just cant grasp that. I'm about a month clean and I couldn't imagine going back to being an opioid zombie
NateRB well it was 2 months, but it was forced. After 12 years of doing suboxone it's not easy to quit especially when your in a program offering them to you. After 2 months I still felt completely drained, still was having the constant sweats and watery eyes as well. Ask anyone who has done suboxone for a decade or better and most will tell you cold turkey is not the way. Currently down to 1/2 of a generic suboxone tablet a day . Tapering just works better for me I guess.
Joseph McBride I did suboxone for over a decade. I'm 30 days out from the kick.
NateRB well good luck to you sir..
Joseph McBride I'm feeling great. Just had enough
Appreciate ya!
Nathan Morris Thanks friend. Appreciate you as well.
17 years old withdrawling off this day 3 freezing cold sweating, legs hurt, quivering, short of breath cant eat. hopefully it gets better
Where are you at now. Im on day 3 myself. Havent ate in those 3 days. How did you go without eating
What milligram did you jump from that's really really important to me I need to know what milligram you jumped from
From what im reading he went from 8mg to 0 he went cold Turkey.
I was a heroin addict for years and have been through withdrawals a million times, and was usually much better by day 4, and by day 6, I was through all the physical stuff, but I keep seeing people in subutex videos, saying they're sick after 2 weeks, etc. I've been on subs for 10 years now, and am at a point where I need to get off them because I'm moving from the UK to the US, and I won't be able to afford them, so what's the truth, here? When do you stop the worst of the physical stuff from subs?
xxoxia I’m coming off them now. I’m in the UAE. There is virtually no way of getting them here (I too was on subutex free in the U.K.). Save some cash and go and find a doctor that can help you through the withdrawals. You can get various meds to take that edge off (diazepam/ anti depressants/ anti anxiety etc). Plan and go and get help once you are there, or once you are in withdrawal you will spend whatever you need to get back on them... then the mess will start. Get help. Good luck ... I’m on day 1 and I’m not happy but I’m stable. X
I've been on opiates for twenty years I'm thirty nine and off and on of subs for ten. My withdrawal doesn't really kick in until day four or five . Major half-life. Deceiving... Woste withdrawal I've ever gone through that and methadone. H, 30s, perks, very short half life usually day four out of woods. Subs are a nightmare. Hopefully it okay bro
Brian Reid Agreed. But for me, the severity of the symptoms was managable. It was the duration that threw me for a loop. Today is day 120 for me. I believe that I hit another major milestone around day 100 as far as feeling better. My milesetones were: day 20, day 40, day 75, and 100. Those are aproxamaztions of course but around those days I can remember saying, "wow, ok Im feeling better than a few weeks ago."
Do you work? I’m on suboxone and if I stop talking suboxone there is no way I could go to work. I have been written up at work and I have been disciplined for attendance
I am glad you are doing well.Are you the young man from intervention?
tortoisetom1 The television show? No, thats not me. lol Thanks for the support.
I've been on zubsolv for about 2 years and I am going to try and stop. I'm taking 11/2 8.6 every day.
You still around..Right at day 4 again...Still on the coaster at 49...
thanks buddy
Your the only person I know that beat this shit...why can't I ughhhh
That is very kind, but my road ahead is still long and bumpy. You CAN do this. I am not special. Very much just a regular guy. I went for 8 years feeling like I would never be able to stop taking subs. Then one day I woke up and realize that I could, and I never looked back.
You know Wess, I really wish you wouldn't have stopped making videos
i agree :/ i could use him abt now
Omg I’m horrified. I’m down to 2MG for about 2YRS now but I struggle to go to a 1/2 of a 1/2. I gotta do it but I’m shook
I'd like to have your email so I can talk to someone about this disease. Tia.
You went of cold Turkey? I'm on day 5... it's not bad. Ya gotta push thru that shit tour right!!!!
How much did you drop off of cold turkey?
I was taking 6-8mg a day for 8 years. For 1 month, I started taking only 2 mg a day. After that month I stopped entirely. People should taper much longer than I did.
can i have your email please yeah your email address was done how about I hope you're doing well got a lot of questions peace
Can anyone explain why it's so hard on your body...some people have almost no withdrawal symptoms , some people go thru hell...what is the science behind withdrawal ,what is your brain and body going thru.
In a VERY laymen explaination, I will say this...Suboxone, just like any other opiod/opiate, is responsible for releasing the chemicals from our brains which are responsible for making us feel happy, and otherwise comfortable. It is a process that most people take for granted. We take for granted that when we sit down, that it will not hurt our butt...that when we lightly bump into something with our knee, that it will not hurt (much). Our bodies are capable (when we don't mess with them) of creating comfort and good feelings for us right when we need them. Opiods, when used everyday for extended periods of time, become the mechanism which prompts our brains to produce these comforting chemicals that we know as pleasure, comfort and happiness. When we stop taking what has now become a vital part of this process, our brains no longer produce these "happy" chemicals on their own. It is at this point that a person truley feels and understands how fragile our brains really are. Thank goodness we do have the capability to return to homeostasis, BUT not everyone returns as quickly as others. To try to answer your question about why it is so much worse for some than others, I feel there are a multitude of factors that contribute to this. Some would include: diet and overall health, a person's attitude going into the withdrawal, support at home or lack there of. Also, some people have a higher threshold for pain and suffering than others. Think of a hardened marine or navy seal who has been through intense training. Not everyone is built to handle suffering. It is certainly a case by case issue. But I do believe that unlike making it though navy seal training, that EVERYONE CAN DO THIS. However some will handle it "better" than others no doubt.
Hope that was helpful friend.
Hey man I'm on day 4 cold turkey, any advice on getting to sleep??
Joe Carta Sorry for the delay. Ubfortunately the truth of the matter is there isn't much you can do (naturally) to induce sleep during the 1st 2-3 weeks. TRY to walk around and expend as much energy as you can during the day. I wont lie to you. Not sleeping is the hardest part about his for many people, especially of you have a job and responsibilities. But if you can make it to day 20 your sleep should start to correct itself pretty nicely at that point. Diphenhydramine (benedryl) can be helpful as well, just dont overdo it.
Melatonin.... Weed....workout
I disagree that you shouldn't have made these. Watching your day logs helps me understand what I will go through
Just about 72 hours in in a half hour! Scared. Still feel like shit!
R.I.P brother
What happened?
I agree everyone is different! It is mostly mental! Then physical! Its bad either way! My very close friend was on subutex for 8 years, then tapered off and was clean for over a year but just couldn't be normal and had to get back on a low dose in order to function as a normal human. Anyone know why it was impossible for this person????
yes, because when a person takes this medication for longer than 2 wks, the brain chemistry changes. It will happen to anyone and everyone. Im sorry to hear about your friend. People don't believe that the brain is altered by these medications but it is. It takes a very very very long time for a brain to regenerate itself back to it's original chemistry. Sometimes, the brain may be permanently altered. that's just the way it is. At least there is a maintenance med to allow your friend to function normally. It takes time. alot of it.. don't give up.. hang in there!!!! im glad you are still friends with them. They need all the support they can get..
Are you still clean?
why why dont they tell youu this,and most important the side effects,they know this they wont tell anyone,big money is all that matters
Thanks
Did you taper? If so what mg did you jump from?
BTW I'm on Sub to and tapering. I'm on 3mg rite now. I just dropped from 4 to 3 couple days ago.
@@bradjones3352 9 months since your comment and I hope you're doing good now
Used kratom to withdraw from suboxone, lasted 2 weeks taking the kratom multiple times a day. Until 3 days ago, started to have horrible abdominal pain, most likely due to kratom. Discontinued kratom, now on day 3 with nothing. Not so bad, stomach still having problems and I'm fatigued but even tho the kratom fucked my gut up something serious, it was def the way to go.
steve cutright How much kratom were you taking each day? What strain and from which vendor if I may ask?
I gained 10 lbs the 1st week of taking subutex 8mg 2 X a day. I'll probably quit before I get started!!!!
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LeeshaC88 You too
I have been on suboxone 8mg\day and January I have lived my home in Florida and came to Bulgaria with 3 months supply's and now is July and I only have 4 suboxones 8 mg. For the last couple off weeks I have been taking only 2mg a day, I am planning to take 1 mg / day tomorrow. I am scared to death from the withdraw symptoms but I have no choice in this country they don't have suboxone maybe this is good for me so I am in the same boat with you and thank you for making this video because gave. me hope that maybe I can too.
Rocky Hajiev the last 2mg is way tougher than 8mg to 2mg drop. Pace yourself, listen to others who have done the same and maybe try kratom. Big love bruh
Man.. I'd love to get in touch with ya, let me know if that's possible. Hope you're doing well!
John Jordan Im doing very well. Day 65 now. Thanks for asking. What would you like to know?
Goodbye Suboxone I know no two situations are the same but yours is the closest I've found to my own as far as years on Suboxone, age, the symptoms you report, etc... so I'm encouraged by your success. I think the question that always comes up is, "when will I feel normal?" I understand that's probably unanswerable for a lot of reasons... not the least of which is what's "normal." I've watched your videos and can definitely see an improvement in your appearance and train of thought as you progress but has there been any time where you felt the biggest jump in improvement or has it all been incremental? Another thing that always interests me is people who say they've gone months and the relapsed.. I wonder why? I mean is the average person still suffering so much at that point that they can no longer take it? In other words, are you now, or at what point, did you feel comfortable enough to not be in constant hell? I know from your vids that you are still experiencing some things but as compared to the first week or two, what level of severity are we talking? Hard questions to answer, but I know you know why I'm asking having gone though it yourself.. any response is appreciated. I pray you continue to move forward my friend.
John Jordan Great questions. So the 1st month was the hardest for sure. I had zero motivation or energy...The 1st month was just about passing the time for me. I would get brief moments of clarity and motivation that I would try to use to do a few pushups, etc...
It wasnt until the 2nd month that my sleep and stomach started to return to "normal". I would expect a person to start feeling noticably better after 1 month.
My progression of feeling better has been on a very slow yet steady pace. Unlike detoxing from oxy or things like that where I might feel much much better today than I did yesterday...this detox is much different. Almost to the point where I can't quite pinpoint the progress. I sometimes have to go back to my videos just to see how bad I felt because I cant remember.
Today I am writing you this from an IHOP table where I am eating with my wife. Got 8 hours of sleep last night, and I do 80 pushups a day now (I could barely do 3 during the 1st 3 weeks.)
If I had to put a percentage on it I would say I feel 90% better at this point. I take my dog on hour long walks daily now...play soccer when I can.
I think I'm rambling now. Please feel free to inquire about any other specifics or questions I did not answer. Good luck friend
That's encouraging for sure, I really do appreciate your time and wish you continued success. I'm determined, regardless of the way it goes.. but it's nice to have the input from someone who has been there. Thanks again :)
John Jordan May I ask how much you have been on and for how long? Are you tapering or have you jumped off already? Please do keep me informed about your progress.
I jumped from 8 mg and I would rather die than go through that again. I'm hoping jumping from .5 or 1mg will be a lot easier. If it's even close to being as bad I'm not sure ima make it this time. I remember days 3-7 were the absolute worse. Still pretty bad days 8-14. Felt a good bit better after 2 weeks but still had some shitty feelings. I hated when my stomach would growl/bubble constantly even after being able to finally make a hard turd...its like a reminder of the wds. I'm at 1 mg now and preparing to jump in about 1.5 months. Ima try to get down to .5 before my jump and take some adderalls during the first week and Xanax at night. I dont like benzos but I have to get some sleep this time. Last detox I did nothing and wasn't prepared. I even went to work on day 4/5 running to the bathroom all day. It was horrible and I'm hoping it will be at least 50% easier than jumping from 8 mg. I don't know if wd symptoms decrease by a certain % by how much less u jump from. Like if I jumped from 4 mg would it have been 50% easier, or no matter what its gonna be as bad. Guess I'll see
Wow! You jumped from 8 mg? That is nuts. (Not recommended) please don't jump from this high of a mg. The recommended dose to jump is 0.66. Which i think is still too high. Just taper as low as possible. The higher you jump from the harder the withdrawal. Trust me. I failed 5 times already. Now im determine to beat this beast the smart way. I am down to like 0.050 a day and I'm still trying to taper lower. After all the failure i learned a lot about this beast. Hope this helps
@@nick9341 yeah it was being brutal. I was losing my mind and body jumping from 8 mg. And only thing I took during wds was beer and benedryl. Did you notice a big difference when you jumped from a lower mg compared to a higher amount?
I took a very tiny piece about half a grain of rice this morning. Im only feeling ok because i went through hell last week and jump from 6 mg and suffered and end up taking a tiny piece to ease my pain. That was a few days ago. So i told myself not to up my dose cuz suffered so much already. I'm dosing that twice so i can sleep and work cuz wasted my week vaca. I can tell you i have a big headache and thats it. I think the brain is trying to repair itself or something. Beside that nothing really to complain i went shopping today with no problem. My plan is to decrease my dose as much as possible because i don't want to go thru that again. I guess what i am saying is im staying low dose and keep dropping til i kind of feel normal again if that make sense. I think big jump off from 6 mg kind slap me and said why didn't i taper. Im telling everybody to please taper cause it will hit you hard.
@@nick9341 in in the same boat. I currently only dose 0.50 mg daily around 10 am. I know it's hard, especially mentally to not take a second/evening dose. Please try to only dose 1 time a day and then eventually start having skip days. I've done about 5 skip days so far, when I was 0.75 I skipped a day 3 times. Yesterday was my first skip day at 0.50 mg. Tomm I'm gonna be dropping to 0.40 and hopefully it works out. Usually after I'm able to skip a day on a dose the next taper isn't that bad.
Day 3 and struggling 🤦♀️
im in hell
Don't go on long term buprenorphine. Its impossible to come off.
The withdrawals are more subdued than oxy or heroin withdrawals but absolute horror and last forever.
Your body gets seriously dependent on this potent long acting artificial opioid and a positive attitude won't help.
I'm going through it but the toll it takes on my wife and kids makes me wonder if its worth it.
It might be 6 months before I'm human again and some people say 12 months.
If you have a choice after deciding to get off the oxy or heroin or whatever, just do the cold turkey and maybe a few weeks of suboxone.
I was craving today on day 4 I liked to messed up