I am late to the party, but I remembered my HS chem classes and gasped "WAIT WHAT OH NO" startling my husband, since I was listening with headphones on
Just realized how brilliant the chromatic color chart is: -Red + Blue = Purple = pure energy -Red + Yellow = Orange = liquid sodium -Blue + Yellow = Green = poison. Last one threw me off until I realized that salt electrolyses to chlorine. Which perfectly fits the green poison breath. Too bad official releases seldom have this kind of thought put into them
Now the only question, what would a cyan dragon breath? We never got an official release, but I have to imagine Green and Blue would make for an interesting combo.
It is also too bad the OGL 1.1 is ruining 3rd party publisher both by striping them of their Intellectual Property rights of everyone regardless of publishing size and gouging the most successful 25% of their revenue which is often larger than the margin or a profitable book and not having enough to pay for production. At least it greatly reduces budget for editor and artists. Also it revokes OGL 1 meaning previous using 3.0 or 5e moving forward is under OGL 1.1
@@DungeonDad Well chlorine electrolyzed shoud again be some kind of plasma or radicals. Either way, I probably would just call it necrotic damage because I do not see anything surviving this :D. Do I have to do this for all combinations now? :D
Whoa whoa whoa...at 10:55 the stat block says, "LIQUID sodium". Not like, a spray of fine solid sodium dust that would coat everything. The sample video you showed is with solid sodium. Sodium is a liquid at 97°C (208°F), and is MUCH more reactive than solid sodium, especially being sprayed through air. It would almost instantly ignite, so it's still normal solid breath, that also covers you in scalding hot goo that's on fire (or going to explode). Liquid changes EVERYTHING.
wouldn't that also make it really dumb to use said breath weapon underwater or in a sufficiently humid environment (like a jungle), what I mean is that said "breath" would just ignite instantly making the whole explosion thing obsolete
Remember that the color of the dragon only matters to things that can see colors. Most animals don't see colors or see them in different hues from what humans see. Look at tigers, for example. Their pray don't see the orange, and because of this, the tiger actually blends in much better.
Tiger camoflage works just fine on humans too, I've seen it. The way the light and shadows play over their hide makes them all but invisible in dense undergrowth. In those conditions, the orange looks brown, and the stripes look like spaces in a thicket of reed plants, and unless you can get an unobstructed view of its face, then you may not see it until its too late.
Actually, most animals have better color vision than humans do. Most mammals, however, are red-green color blind. Pretty much every animal can see the difference between yellow and blue. It is thought that the first mammals were small nocturnal or subterranean rodent like animals, which had little use for good color vision since it was too dark to see colors anyway when they were active. Random mutation without selection pressures meant the early mammals lost the genes needed to make the photopigments that all fish (except blind cave fish), amphibians, reptiles, and birds use. Much later, a few lineages of mammals (including great apes and fruit bats) developed new pigments to help them see the difference between red and green (to help them pick out ripe fruit), but our pigments do not work as well as those used by birds etc.
@@magister343 Millenia later, it was animals with poor vision that went and drove their other poor vision mates to extinction as well as other not so mamalian cousins.
Which is why red dragons make sense because they are always depicted as eating mammals so most of their prey would see them as grey which camouflaged well with their mountain homes. It's just humanoids that mess them up
Something else to consider; sodium is a metal. This dragon breathes a high-velocity stream of metal (liquid, solid, doesn't matter). Anyone who knows how anti-tank munitions like a sabot works will know where I am going with this. Not only will this have a delayed fire and/or explosive effect, but it will also have crazy impact force and penetration. This dragon is literally perfect for taking out a castle or similar fortifications.
Well it wouldn't have nearly as much impact force as you would expect, even being generous with speed of the projectile, it isn't solid, and sodium is a very soft metal, and also sodium a very light metal. Depending on the size of a dragon maybe the pressure of a firetruck or something similar
The effects of antitank munitions comes less from some special property of metal (though density helps) and more from the fact the force is concentrated, and the penetrator is _way_ hypersonic. Dragon breath weapons tend to be more diffuse, and with that kind of velocity it'd travel way further than the ranges listed. Though now that I think about it, a dragon with a hypersonic breath weapon is its own sick idea. Maybe even the only type to have a physical component to its breath weapon damage?
@@justinthompson6364 really depends I think the range would be similar to one of the Sherman tank in WW2 Equiped with a flamethrower, also I edited this because I was dumb and read your reply wrong
Not sure about the penetrative power of a metal that is roughly the consistency of cream cheese, but it is basically firing liquid HESH rounds, which is still devastating to stone.
@@notoriousgoblin83 Yeah, and like others said; if the velocity was high enough, the range of the breath weapon would be way longer. Still, perhaps the velocity could change with the age of the dragon?
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
The other twist that is in the original Dragon 65 is the fact they hunt during sunrise and sunset during those times of intense colors. I can see this being used in some encounters as the party is on the outskirts of the lair, the sense of being watched even as they are distracted by the already intense colors around them and the gorgeous evening sky as the sun sets. I also dread the humanoid offspring of these critters. Sodium breath weapon, even in a mild form, can go pretty poorly if they are drunk, in a fight, and decide "screw it, might as well use this watered down mead as an explosion making machine."
Think. A Yellow dragons salt, Topaz dragons necrotic, a Copper dragons acidic and Orange dragons sodium explosive, Black dragons cruel acidic spew and add a Green dragons vile poison gas breath. NASTY gang right there. Also the territorial/ biome disputes between the coastal Bronze, Topaz and Yellow winged disputes would be real! 😂
Sodium breath combined with a dragon that is always seeking to keep enemies on their toes is a wonderful one Because it can fly overhead, fire off a shot and the damage might not be recognized until the dragon has already vanished from the sky. A single shot into a dam reservoir or an irrigation canal wouldn't be fully recognized until the perpetrator was long gone.
In a very dry location, the dragon could put little sodium particles all over the city. And then when it finally rains.... the sodium all reacts violently with the water and everything explodes at once.... weeks after the dragon siting
@@1narutogirl6 this gives me a horrendously evil idea for a BBEG Imagine a villain whose whole plan is to control the weather to make intense droughts across the kingdom, forcing entire villages of farmers to work cheap for him. Being incredibly petty, he has a back up plan for if the party can defeat him. That plan is lining the villages with concentrated sodium, so once the rain returns, the villages and their livelihoods are all blasted to bits. Of course, there'd still be enough time for the players to learn of and stop this final retaliation, but it'd still be an awesome last challenge to overcome
@@lorekeeper685 Sodium, even in minute amounts in soil or water tables can ruin entire harvests. It's basically salting the earth in the most literal sense and he wouldn't have to be anywhere NEAR the actual irrigation to do it, just at the head of the river somewhere in the mountains
15:00 Possible alternative: coastal deserts. The mists rolling off the sea result in periods of high atmospheric humidity, but due to the limited rainfall you still only see a few hardy plants, resulting in a barren terrain, and they are much better hidden against the sands. These are pretty small ecoregions, so I could imagine competition for this prime terrain would be very stiff. Also feels like it might be closer to where their parents live. Just imagine having your players become terrified as the dawn brings the ocean mists into the area and the hunt begins.
As soon as you said this dragon is a love child of a yellow and red dragon, I knew EXACTLY where the breath weapon was going. And it terrifies me. Side note: imagine an adventure party getting themselves stuck in the middle of a 3 way territorial war between an Orange, Black, and Bronze Dragon.
I could imagine an adventuring party getting hired to get rid of them at later levels. Possibly even by someone being connected to a purple dragon who had been hunting in the area before they came in and doesn’t want the dragons to go into the cave system it lives in.
In an old campaign i played in we had a young adult Orange dragon named Spark living with us. Well on a very special day some bandits decided to attempt a raid on us... Those bandits learned a very important lesson about mixing orange and water.
Bronze and Brass dragons imply the existence of Tin and Zinc dragons respectively. They also imply that Electrum dragons might exist as progeny between Gold & Silver dragons. The implied existence of Tin dragons makes a statement that metallic dragons aren't confined to transition metals, thus there is the *slight possibility a Sodium dragon fights an Orange dragon.*
Electrum dragons do exist and are on the list. There are no tin and zinc though. Brass (gold and silver) and bronze (copper and silver) dragons do exist because of that though.
@@ultatack6020 That's likely true, but we're talking about a company that suddenly decided song dragons and steel dragons are just copper, silver and other metallic dragons that like being in humanoid form instead of keeping with the original lore.
And yet, even against creatures that can see orange, they’re still terrifyingly sneaky. It’s said a Tiger can see you a hundred times before you see it once.
One thing to note about the orange dragons colour is that, to a human in a jungle, it may be incredibly bright, but to deer and other creatures, it appears more like a green, which is why a tiger is orange, so depending on its natural prey, the orange colour may actually be an advantage when hunting
8:56 one of the advantages metallic dragons have over most chromatic dragons is they have friends and family that can be willing to help them fight the orange dragon. Chromatic dragons not as much.
Been waiting adamantly to see all the chromatic dragons represented, having a complete color wheel is so satisfying. I’ve actually been brewing a DnD world involving great wyrm overlords of every color, including the ones not represented in 5e. Your videos have been a huge inspiration, especially when it comes to the concept of Tiamat’s murdered sister
Totally agree dude! Some despise seeing these dragons FINALLY get the attention they deserve. I dont care just make Tiamat either breed or find and absorb some of these missing Chromatics, sister or not. I would surely buy anything product related if WotC get their gears in motion. Only thing I would change with yellow coastal salt dragon is make thrm have WINGS or they steal the looks of Lung dragons. They got to have consistency of classic western dragon looks. And the 4e yellow dragon could be renamed to Tan/ Beige sand dragon, neighbour of the Brown desert and Blue rocky/ cliff/ sky dragon.
I love how you went into the Chemistry behind the differences between the Orange and Yellow Dragons’ breath weapons. I’m a HUGE Chemistry nerd, so this was an unexpected treat for me.
To be really fearsome with it giving it some levels in casting spells like wall of water or watery sphere would make it quite insane. Of course it encountering players who can manipulate water could be interesting too. I'm sure the dragon would be rather shocked if a caster held a powerful spell blast of water for when their breath attack came and suddenly all that sodium spray that was meant to be on the adventurers is now back down their throat, but also very wet and about to explode internally.
We have lung dragons on the monster suggestion list on the discord. Is there a particular lung dragon that you'd like to see? So far the Lung Wang and Shen Lung are the most voted on.
Doing some back of the napkin maths, each segment of that liquid sodium breath weapon is hitting with about 328kg of mass at a minimum of 98°C (208°F). For context, that's over 7x the weight of a 155 Howitzer artillery shell, while also being boiling hot. That is one nasty breath weapon even without the explosive bit.
If you want to complete the set, there are the brown dragons, grey dragons, and debatably the deep dragons (the 4e one is very different from 5E, which both are different from the pre 4e one). Either way, thanks for your continued contributions to the draconic cause.
@@JadenLingerfelt that’s why I specified the chromatics. There are 100ish dragons in DnD, and that’s before importing any Pathfinder or 3rd party ones.
You could do one based on Brangomar The Shadow Queen, a female fey slash dragon who exists in the realm of Faerie in the Champions Universe. She in her human looking fey form can cast various magic (limited to spells which have a Fairy Tale feal to them). In her dragon from is the same but also all her Dragon powers (the type is mostly Red except that her scales are purple to black). She is a unique being. While her physical body can be killed, the realm of Faerie will regrow her, manipulating reality itself so that she always exists. She can be found on page 169 to 172 of the Champions Villains Volume One: Master Villains.
Even before you brought it up as a plot hook, as soon as you said black and bronze dragons were a rival to the orange dragon, I immediately thought of one or both of them looking to hire the PCs to take down an orange dragon. The black dragon in particular would work as a double agent. Wait for the PCs to arrive, then when they got to the lair, the black dragon would immediately feint an attack on the party, but actually go after the orange dragon. They're very opportunistic and would hate being under someone's thumb, or in this case, claw. Very much willing to wait on the spirit warrior. Congrats on getting the interview. Look at how far you've come.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "We want MORE dragons!" One that comes to mind is the Fang Dragon, sometimes also known as the Gray Dragon. What makes them interesting is the fact that fang dragons didn't originally have a breath weapon (hence the name FANG dragon) until Tiamat did some expiraments to give new hatchlings an acidic breath weapon. The info is on the forgottenrealms wiki if you need a good place to start.
Fang and gray dragons are their own thing. WotC merged the two in 4th edition, much like how they merged song and steel dragons with metallic dragons who like playing pranks in 5th. Gray and fang are both on the list of monsters to convert over.
An ability I've given dragons is to spit their breath weapon as a projectile. Example: Fire breath = fireball. Orange dragon = delayed fireball. I can see an Orange Dragon using its breath to set traps for adventurers. Also a good minion for them would be water elementals.
What’s funny about orange is that it’s worn by hunters because it’s the one color that’s not found in nature. And because it’s not found in nature, a lot of prey to these hunters, don’t see the color orange.
I'm surprised by the fact that Green Dragons aren't listed as a rival. they prefer forests (presumably including rainforests) and have adaptations that suggest a preferance for areas with water.
I just showed this one to my DM, and now I'm scared of the odds of having a damn dragon spitting explosive vomit all around and having everyone panic over the flames after 5 seconds
I tried my hand at making my own orange dragon after watching the purple dragon video and I feel so happy that I had the same thought process as an actual smart person, except I made it that the breath weapon has more of a goopy gel that sprays on targets and the water detonates it, so it means that an orange dragon has a more tactical use of its breath. And so I used it more like the explosive gel from the Batman: Arkham games, it already took off a tabaxi’s pelvis when he failed to not sweat when trying to take off his gel soaked pants
I am blown away at the effort you put into these videos and monsters. To make them 5E compatible AND making it all public. Awesome! I am new around here, finding you first with the yellow dragon video. Loved it. Would love to see you cover ALL colors of dragons.
If it causes an explosion shouldn't the breath attack deal force and fire damage instead of just fire damage. I don't get why 5e lists many explosives like grenades and powder kegs as dealing fire damage, explosions blast you apart not simply burn you. Other than that little gripe it is a great statblock adaptation, I love the creativity behind this dragon in particular.
Force damage in dnd is explicitly the damage dealt by raw magic, what your thinking of would be thunder damage which is the damage dealt by pressure waves and such
Wonderful video! Can't wait to see the next one! Now in addition of Chromatics, all that's left are Grey and Brown Dragons. And for the Metallic Dragons there's Cobalt, Electrum, Iron, Mercury and Steel Dragons. Hopefully that provides more content for you good sir! ;3
All of them are already on the list, but added your name to the number of requesters. Only one other person asked for the electrum dragon, so it's nice to see it getting some love.
I’m imagining an ancient jungle city abandoned for centuries because the river burst its banks and now flows through the city. The locals know a black dragon has been living in the temple at the city’s centre, which it’s converted into a lair. What they don’t know is that the black dragon is the underling of an orange dragon, sitting in its cave lair near the top of the waterfall, giving it a bird’s eye view over the flooded city. The two have a shared hoard which the black dragon rests on, with the orange dragon keeping its personal favourites in it’s own lair. This is for the security of both the treasure and the black dragon’s loyalty. “Sure it really belongs to me, but you’re the one who gets to hold onto it.”
I definitely want to run a oneshot with an Orange Dragon now. That plot idea about sudden plant growth in a jungle is intriguing, because when presented with such an incipit almost no one would expect a dragon to be behind it. You'd think it'd be something fey-related, or maybe something to do with a druid or druidic circle, but nah, actually it's a dragon type that 99% of players have no idea even existed.
Thank you!!! I've been writing a plot in a custom world dealing with the slain sister of Tiamat, and have been struggling writing Orange Dragons! This is the best New Years Gift I could have gotten from you!!!
Damn, all three of these are cool as all hell, don't know why they've not officially put them into the game again. Also I'd love to see you do a video on the Nightwalker. Back when I got the 3e monster manual when I was a little kid and only wanted it for the cool artwork inside, I saw the Nightwalker and was instantly drawn to it, it's so damn cool, and as I got older and more into D&D I realized how badass that thing really is. So it'd be awesome to see you do one on them.
Happy New Year! After watching your videos about the Yellow and Purple Dragons I spent an hour looking for your video on the Orange 🍊 dragon before realizing u hadn't made it yet, so this was a nice surprise. Thank you 🥳💥🤘🏽
I wish I'd been aware of Orange Dragons when I was assembling my last 3.5 campaign (years after it was discontinued, but none of us wanted to play 4E). The BBEG was a Black Dragon using the Xorvintaal rules from Monster Manual 5(?) with one of her "exarchs" (I was using the templates, but didn't actually include the whole weird game concept; it just made the dragon easier to run) being a younger chromatic dragon she'd bullied into serving her, and making the BBEG an Orange Dragon and the minion into a Black Dragon would've been pretty fun.
I really like your video style. aproaching a topic from various angles. in terms of the mechanics of facing it, plot hooks, ecology, nature. its just very wholistic and good for inspiration. As a side note, something I thought might be an interesting idea for many of these specialized dragons outside of the core 5 chromatic and metalic is that they are genetically kind of like mules. crosses between horses and donkeys who are infertile. Explaining why, despite how powerful they are, they are so rare. They aren’t self replicating.
So one thing that has kinda been lost over the years and is one of my favorite parts of tiamat lore- She doesn't have to just be the main 5 chromatic heads. whatever realm she or her avatar show up on each head can be replaced by whatever type of chromatic dragon exists there. So not only can they be different you have have even more variety i. the type of actions and chaos the character takes because of the head used, Which could be why she tried so hard to make her sister extinct because it was causing just a problem for her plans that it had to be done
The sole reason terrain is a non issue for the orange dragons breath attack, is because, lake, river, desert, all is irrelevant when you remember that dragons have spell casting abilities. In adnd dragons dont have a spellbook, they get spell slots and levels dependent on age, and the DM decides from there. Create water depending on edition ranges but is never higher than a 2nd or 3rd level (havent seen it but table rules change things at times, and some desert campaigns opt to have it be higher level). But dragons get spell powers at a relatively young age. And depending on edition dragons also get to both attack and cast a spell each round or breathe and cast a spell, or just breathe, or spell, or attack, again, the rules vary. But even if it is just breathe, the orange dragon could just create water at a high volume to douse a character before or after the breath attack, or even the party depending on how bunched they are. More or less, if your a creative DM ^_^ an orange dragon will have explosions, one way or another
An orange dragon is central to the Judges Guild module _Under the Storm Giant's Castle_, published a few years prior to Dragon #65. I remember the balloon people much better than the dragon, but I'm sure it's a very different creature than the one in Dragon Magazine. (Definitely don't go out of your way looking for the module.)
Lovely! A few tips just in case. If using established elemental dmg/ resistance types, then use poison. Salt poisoning is a thing, search it up and thats where the Green dragon inherits its breath weapon from. For yellow dragonborn head apperance? Alot of frills on head and cheeks, no horns/ spikes and some frills on chin. For true dragon looks I would have Yellow dragons be max frilled and have a taller frill down from the head to end of tail that rivals the silvers and greens. With pointier wings to cut through the air the best of all while being decent swimmers 120ft m.
My DM sprang one of these on my group, once. We had foreknowledge and prep time, though, so we had several ways to cast Grease on hand. The DM was confused, until we showed him how elemental sodium is packaged.
I once home brewed a hybrid gold/black dragon who literally breathes napalm and can light it with a second breath weapon. He can also combine them to breathe what is essentially the fireball spell. Also, small suggestion, maybe orange dragons could have tiger-like stripes to help them camouflage.
Sweet YT algorithm, Batmon! Since YT decided to feed me the is video, I went through the Yellow and Purple dragon vids as well. I'm definitely interested in the potential lore that could be built around Tiamat and her mysterious sister. I like the idea of Tiamat's sister actually being an even greater evil, and working off of the Color Theory foundation. What if both of these Evil Chromatic Dragon Goddesses' originally had 5 Colors? Tiamat having: Red, Blue, Yellow, Black, and White. The unnamed sister having: Purple, Green, Orange, Brown, and Grey. Perhaps they originally worked together in their cunning plans to overthrow other gods, amass wealth and power, and other goals. But in time, a subtle rift grew between them. Envious of her sister's breath powers and how many of her sister's offspring were more powerful than her own, thus able to control more territories and accumulate more wealth for her, Tiamat began a plot against her own sister. It would take a millennia before her plans came to fruition, and while she suffered significant losses of her own, when the time finally came Tiamat seized the opportunity to slay her sister and consume her essence, power, and divinity. Following this, she and her avatars would have the ability to manifest with any of the Chromatic Dragon colors for their heads. In this way, Tiamat would carry the memory of her sister with her forever, and a portion of her sister's power, cruelty, and evil would henceforth be added to her own. In time, all those ancient dragons and long-lived mortals who remembered the sister of Tiamat would meet their end, naturally or otherwise. Only the most ancient of beings such as other Gods might have memory or records of the forgotten chromatic goddess. But what use is there in remembering a past threat, when a very real danger in the form of Tiamat lurks in the depths of the realms, plotting? This conflict with her sister could also be a tie-in reason as to why Tiamat is stuck in Hell.
I should say, I did end up taking some heavy inspiration from your yellow dragon video. I started working with the idea of Tiamat's eviler chromatic sister, and then decided to instead have the sister be the mother of gem dragons, and then promptly threw all the official gem dragon lore in the bin. Currently the party is adventuring across The Forgotten Realms with a statue in a sack that contains the sealed soul of Tiamat who is directing them on how to defeat her worse sister. Didn't use the idea you had exactly but it was a very helpful jumping off point :)
So your Tiamats sister have 5 heads: Yellow, Orange, Purple, Gray and Brown? Would make sense, if not well.. Io is THE dragon god and he IS all colors. I bet on some olanet, some version of Tiamat he could gift her with the missing ones or she could find some and absorb them for to spawn them herself
@@odinulveson9101 no no. Sorry for the confusion. My tiamat has the standard rgbwb colors. Her sister is the creator of ‘stone’ dragons in my setting. The stones I chose were quartz, garnet, lapis lazuli, opal, emerald, and alexandrite. I chose to make my own dragons instead of the standard ones offered by dnd.
Lore Idea: Orange Dragons could be ferocious Terraformers. Flames to clear vegetation, explosions to carve new rivers to suit their needs, a long-term viewpoint to maximize their efforts, and the might to crush anything that objects. The lingering magic of their breath may even act as a potent fertilizer, accelerating plant regrowth, hiding their new home from view, and explaining the animate flora that springs up around them. Campaign Idea: A series of misfortunes begin to plague a town on the edge of a jungle. An Orange dragon hires the party, who are instructed to side with the settlement's leader, (a somewhat venomous but ultimately good person,) but make no mention of the dragon's involvement. As the various problems are solved, the leader reveals they had antagonized an orange dragon some years ago and were worried it had been the cause of the misfortunes. (It wasn't) Upon leaving the area, the party is contacted and rewarded by the Orange dragon who, if questioned happily explains that they fully intend to destroy the town to spite the leader sometime in the future. Until then they've been secretly supporting the place to ensure its eventual destruction hurts all the more.
Small correction: The slime of the dragons breath isn't made of sodium, it just contains a large amount of sodium particulates that are exposed to the air as the slime evaporates.
You know, I thought during the yellow dragon video that whoever wrote the original wasn't thinking through the chemical implications of a pure salt breath weapon. That oversight has definitely been corrected here
You gave me such a cool encounter idea, it’s also thematic with my DnD world! Thank you for sharing such an awesome and unique dragon that not many players know about!
Another comment pointed this out, but I'll re-iterate. Orange is actually great camouflage for a jungle. Tigers prey can't see orange for example and they actually look greenish for example, and orange obscured by shadow looks brownish to eyes that can see it
Wow, i expected that Orange dragon breath would be explosive, but didnt expect it that awesome way, great video I hope you make the gem dragons, I really love them
The majority of the gem dragons are already in 5e with Fizban's release. The only one not covered so far the ruby dragon. I can add your name to that one. Only one other person has suggested it.
@@SterkHarbeck If there's any other monsters (and dragons) you want to see covered let me know and I'll your name to those too. Brown and Gray are already maxed out for requests, as well as as the chair and calzone golems, but anything else is on the table.
Yo, Dungeon Daddy, I greatly enjoy your content as a DM who also likes updating old Monsters that I fought against in campaigns growing up. Keep up the great content pal. Also, a fun fact for you! While Adventurers would certainly make out an Orange Dragon's vibrant scales against its environment, it actually wouldn't cause it much trouble when it comes to hunting normal meals around its den. For the same reasons a tiger can still blend in to surrounding foliage, most animals outside of Humans, Apes, and Monkeys don't have trichromatic vision and can't perceive the color Orange. When animals without the correct rods in their eyes look at something Orange, their vision can't adjust to perceive the color as we do and it actually comes out as a deep Green color. This is how Tigers, while vibrantly out of place in their habit to us, can still just as easily sneak up on prey through thick foliage as any other predator. For a further, sillier note; a Fawn, Firbolg, or even Aarakocra would not be able to tell apart an Orange and Green Dragon, if you want to rule that they had eyes similar to their design-rooted, animal counterparts.
To see the joy in my kids eyes when I run our weekly game means EVERYTHING to me. You have helped me a lot in making this happen. Thank you very very much.
Yes, I remember this when I first saw the yellow dragon I decided to make a dungeon and Dragon dragon campaign. Basically they had to go around and collect scales from every single type of dragon or you can create a few Home brew ones and some that I found online they even faced false hydra not a dragon, but it was fun out of the orange dragon was my favorite. Even told them pure line of sodium and they did exactly what you said some guy threw water on them because they knew what they were sprayed with lights on fire, after a few seconds, so one of them thought it was a good idea to pour water on his friend. It was not a good idea. They did manage to resurrect him, but he was quite pissed. He got blowed up and was gone for a session. We were thinking of giving him a new character, but he wanted his character to be resurrected, so he just played an NPC that got hired for that mission.
I've got a LOT of ideas. in my homebrew world I'm planning a large scale war with underdark races capturing and making deals with dragons, so using the Torgue (EXPLOSIONS?) dragon here is just so much fun!
Just now i realize something..... So Metallic Dragons can "crossbreed" too? Forming Alloys? So when the do the.... "thing" they are Smelting? Casting? They do it in the "foundry"? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!
Sooo. Copper, Silver and Gold are the purest of the known 5. Brass is mix of copper and zinc, Bronze is a mix of copper and tin. Yet theres no tin and zinc dragons. Theres these ferrours ironish dragons that could not be expanded on the metallic dragons list. BUT Orium, Adamantine, Electrum, Mithral and Mercury is valid 👍
Not sure if you'll reply to this, but I homebrewed them myself and decided to give them Spell Casting, I gave them several Earth and Water spells, including things like watery sphere, wall of water, and bones of the earth, you can imagine the chaos that caused. I also gave the party a couple of Kobolds to help guide them through the lair... and as fodder to kind of teach them what the breath weapon did, well one of the party members threw one in the water in an attempt to wash it off and blew up half the party.
another thing to think about when it comes to jungles is that a lot of wildlife only has bichromatic vision rather than trichromatic vision, and have trouble processing the color red. Essentially, orange would appear to be the same as green to, say, any ungulates the dragon chooses to hunt, which would mean that the dense cover of the jungle would be perfect to camouflage it from its prey.
People would probably tend to don't appreciate how have a huge chunk of forest with all it's water fonts turned slightly salty is an immense treat! The thing is, it would very slowly dehydrates every human character (and any other races/species that have similar metabolic needs as humans). But the party members not necessarily would understand the why, bc the water doesn't need to have enough salt to be tasted to have that effect, if it's the only kind of water they have and have a day of travelling on the woods, without a clear trail to follow, carrying heavy backpacks and under hot weather. The only real alert would be the feeling that the water doesn't really quench their thirst for long...
The true gem dragons are already in 5e in Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, but the old AD&D jade and ruby dragons are still on the list. They don't really count as "gem" dragons though, according to their lore.
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I'm pretty sure you did a draco lich, but what about a Skeletal Dragon.
would love to see dragonborn with these colors (and the other dragon types you've done).
Forget the Skeleton Dragon. What about the Ghost Dragon?
this dragon is flying NOPE
@@stanleyteriaca2184 Ghost Dragon is already in 5e. Fizban's Treasury of Dragons covers that.
DD: "They breathe a line of pure sodium-"
My chemistry minor-holding wife: "OH. OH NO."
Enjoy the light show 🤣
I am late to the party, but I remembered my HS chem classes and gasped "WAIT WHAT OH NO" startling my husband, since I was listening with headphones on
Elemental sodium, aerosolized in argon gas. Argon is pervasive, not too heavy and unreactive towards alkali metals.
Could be worse. Could’ve been caesium.
@@Miners666 or Francium
Just realized how brilliant the chromatic color chart is:
-Red + Blue = Purple = pure energy
-Red + Yellow = Orange = liquid sodium
-Blue + Yellow = Green = poison. Last one threw me off until I realized that salt electrolyses to chlorine. Which perfectly fits the green poison breath. Too bad official releases seldom have this kind of thought put into them
Now the only question, what would a cyan dragon breath? We never got an official release, but I have to imagine Green and Blue would make for an interesting combo.
@@DungeonDad Maybe it’s breath aerosolizes a smoke that conducts a charge that lingers for multiple rounds.
@@DungeonDad who's to say that it can't be a cross with a gem dragon's breath or what blue and white would do, it would make for a fun homebrew
It is also too bad the OGL 1.1 is ruining 3rd party publisher both by striping them of their Intellectual Property rights of everyone regardless of publishing size and gouging the most successful 25% of their revenue which is often larger than the margin or a profitable book and not having enough to pay for production. At least it greatly reduces budget for editor and artists. Also it revokes OGL 1 meaning previous using 3.0 or 5e moving forward is under OGL 1.1
@@DungeonDad Well chlorine electrolyzed shoud again be some kind of plasma or radicals. Either way, I probably would just call it necrotic damage because I do not see anything surviving this :D. Do I have to do this for all combinations now? :D
Whoa whoa whoa...at 10:55 the stat block says, "LIQUID sodium".
Not like, a spray of fine solid sodium dust that would coat everything. The sample video you showed is with solid sodium. Sodium is a liquid at 97°C (208°F), and is MUCH more reactive than solid sodium, especially being sprayed through air. It would almost instantly ignite, so it's still normal solid breath, that also covers you in scalding hot goo that's on fire (or going to explode).
Liquid changes EVERYTHING.
Lives in the jungle. Talking trees. Breathes napalm. Oh no. Not again.
@@Miners666 agent orange dragon
Ah, Napalm dragon.
...oh my god it's literally the goo off Bachidios. METAL!
wouldn't that also make it really dumb to use said breath weapon underwater or in a sufficiently humid environment (like a jungle), what I mean is that said "breath" would just ignite instantly making the whole explosion thing obsolete
Remember that the color of the dragon only matters to things that can see colors. Most animals don't see colors or see them in different hues from what humans see. Look at tigers, for example. Their pray don't see the orange, and because of this, the tiger actually blends in much better.
Darkvision doesn't show colors either, so night attacks are brutal.
Tiger camoflage works just fine on humans too, I've seen it. The way the light and shadows play over their hide makes them all but invisible in dense undergrowth. In those conditions, the orange looks brown, and the stripes look like spaces in a thicket of reed plants, and unless you can get an unobstructed view of its face, then you may not see it until its too late.
Actually, most animals have better color vision than humans do. Most mammals, however, are red-green color blind. Pretty much every animal can see the difference between yellow and blue. It is thought that the first mammals were small nocturnal or subterranean rodent like animals, which had little use for good color vision since it was too dark to see colors anyway when they were active. Random mutation without selection pressures meant the early mammals lost the genes needed to make the photopigments that all fish (except blind cave fish), amphibians, reptiles, and birds use. Much later, a few lineages of mammals (including great apes and fruit bats) developed new pigments to help them see the difference between red and green (to help them pick out ripe fruit), but our pigments do not work as well as those used by birds etc.
@@magister343
Millenia later, it was animals with poor vision that went and drove their other poor vision mates to extinction as well as other not so mamalian cousins.
Which is why red dragons make sense because they are always depicted as eating mammals so most of their prey would see them as grey which camouflaged well with their mountain homes. It's just humanoids that mess them up
Every Water Genasi: "I'm in danger"
Oh man, I hadn’t even considered that. Oh nooo!
That was my immediate thought as one of my players played one.
@@indiana47you would would explode
I can suddenly imagine a orange dragon totting around giant buckets of water or even water balloons, dumping them, and then "IT'S SODIUM TIME"
Now I'm imagining an orange dragon using water bending
@@Direblade11 and by extension, going full avatar or just having a metal bending friend
This will sure make the Pink Dragon rolling on the floor
*holds up comedically large decanter of endless water*
My modification allows it to shoot 3 spears of sodium and 3 arrows of water as a legendary action
Something else to consider; sodium is a metal.
This dragon breathes a high-velocity stream of metal (liquid, solid, doesn't matter). Anyone who knows how anti-tank munitions like a sabot works will know where I am going with this.
Not only will this have a delayed fire and/or explosive effect, but it will also have crazy impact force and penetration. This dragon is literally perfect for taking out a castle or similar fortifications.
Well it wouldn't have nearly as much impact force as you would expect, even being generous with speed of the projectile, it isn't solid, and sodium is a very soft metal, and also sodium a very light metal. Depending on the size of a dragon maybe the pressure of a firetruck or something similar
The effects of antitank munitions comes less from some special property of metal (though density helps) and more from the fact the force is concentrated, and the penetrator is _way_ hypersonic.
Dragon breath weapons tend to be more diffuse, and with that kind of velocity it'd travel way further than the ranges listed.
Though now that I think about it, a dragon with a hypersonic breath weapon is its own sick idea. Maybe even the only type to have a physical component to its breath weapon damage?
@@justinthompson6364 really depends I think the range would be similar to one of the Sherman tank in WW2 Equiped with a flamethrower, also I edited this because I was dumb and read your reply wrong
Not sure about the penetrative power of a metal that is roughly the consistency of cream cheese, but it is basically firing liquid HESH rounds, which is still devastating to stone.
@@notoriousgoblin83 Yeah, and like others said; if the velocity was high enough, the range of the breath weapon would be way longer.
Still, perhaps the velocity could change with the age of the dragon?
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
Facts. I seent it
I seen this man on another channel and he made the same joke
This guy gets the humor 👌
Dude get new jokes pls
Are you trying to find a pink dragon?
The other twist that is in the original Dragon 65 is the fact they hunt during sunrise and sunset during those times of intense colors. I can see this being used in some encounters as the party is on the outskirts of the lair, the sense of being watched even as they are distracted by the already intense colors around them and the gorgeous evening sky as the sun sets.
I also dread the humanoid offspring of these critters. Sodium breath weapon, even in a mild form, can go pretty poorly if they are drunk, in a fight, and decide "screw it, might as well use this watered down mead as an explosion making machine."
Think. A Yellow dragons salt, Topaz dragons necrotic, a Copper dragons acidic and Orange dragons sodium explosive, Black dragons cruel acidic spew and add a Green dragons vile poison gas breath. NASTY gang right there. Also the territorial/ biome disputes between the coastal Bronze, Topaz and Yellow winged disputes would be real! 😂
@@odinulveson9101 All the warcrimes at the same time.
Sodium breath combined with a dragon that is always seeking to keep enemies on their toes is a wonderful one
Because it can fly overhead, fire off a shot and the damage might not be recognized until the dragon has already vanished from the sky.
A single shot into a dam reservoir or an irrigation canal wouldn't be fully recognized until the perpetrator was long gone.
In a very dry location, the dragon could put little sodium particles all over the city. And then when it finally rains.... the sodium all reacts violently with the water and everything explodes at once.... weeks after the dragon siting
@@1narutogirl6 this gives me a horrendously evil idea for a BBEG
Imagine a villain whose whole plan is to control the weather to make intense droughts across the kingdom, forcing entire villages of farmers to work cheap for him. Being incredibly petty, he has a back up plan for if the party can defeat him. That plan is lining the villages with concentrated sodium, so once the rain returns, the villages and their livelihoods are all blasted to bits. Of course, there'd still be enough time for the players to learn of and stop this final retaliation, but it'd still be an awesome last challenge to overcome
and it might ruin agriculture so ıt would have a soft power or was it hard power?
@@lorekeeper685 Sodium, even in minute amounts in soil or water tables can ruin entire harvests. It's basically salting the earth in the most literal sense and he wouldn't have to be anywhere NEAR the actual irrigation to do it, just at the head of the river somewhere in the mountains
@@samwill7259 yes
It would be like
"If you attack me you won't have harvests for a century!"
And they try to not do that
15:00 Possible alternative: coastal deserts. The mists rolling off the sea result in periods of high atmospheric humidity, but due to the limited rainfall you still only see a few hardy plants, resulting in a barren terrain, and they are much better hidden against the sands. These are pretty small ecoregions, so I could imagine competition for this prime terrain would be very stiff. Also feels like it might be closer to where their parents live. Just imagine having your players become terrified as the dawn brings the ocean mists into the area and the hunt begins.
As soon as you said this dragon is a love child of a yellow and red dragon, I knew EXACTLY where the breath weapon was going. And it terrifies me.
Side note: imagine an adventure party getting themselves stuck in the middle of a 3 way territorial war between an Orange, Black, and Bronze Dragon.
I could imagine an adventuring party getting hired to get rid of them at later levels. Possibly even by someone being connected to a purple dragon who had been hunting in the area before they came in and doesn’t want the dragons to go into the cave system it lives in.
@@ThefifthBishopofGord someone can make a Hoard of the Dragon Queen story than the actual book. XD
Just ran my first session of a tropical dragon island campaign that I created explicitly so I could run this concept.
My first thought was chlorine gas, formed from the other element released when you break apart common table salt.
@@magister343 Hey, green dragons like forests too. Maybe the orange dragon has a green half-sibling nearby whom it can recruit for backup in a pinch?
In an old campaign i played in we had a young adult Orange dragon named Spark living with us. Well on a very special day some bandits decided to attempt a raid on us... Those bandits learned a very important lesson about mixing orange and water.
Bronze and Brass dragons imply the existence of Tin and Zinc dragons respectively.
They also imply that Electrum dragons might exist as progeny between Gold & Silver dragons.
The implied existence of Tin dragons makes a statement that metallic dragons aren't confined to transition metals, thus there is the *slight possibility a Sodium dragon fights an Orange dragon.*
Electrum dragons do exist and are on the list. There are no tin and zinc though. Brass (gold and silver) and bronze (copper and silver) dragons do exist because of that though.
@@KevinVideo Uh… Brass is Copper & Zinc and Bronze is Copper & Tin.
@@ultatack6020 That's likely true, but we're talking about a company that suddenly decided song dragons and steel dragons are just copper, silver and other metallic dragons that like being in humanoid form instead of keeping with the original lore.
Fun fact: tigers are orange because the deer they hunt have a colorblindness that causes their coloration to blend in with the foliage
And yet, even against creatures that can see orange, they’re still terrifyingly sneaky. It’s said a Tiger can see you a hundred times before you see it once.
Fun fact: Tigers are orange because their usual prey are colorblind and see them as green as the leaves in the jungles so they blend in perfectly :D
One thing to note about the orange dragons colour is that, to a human in a jungle, it may be incredibly bright, but to deer and other creatures, it appears more like a green, which is why a tiger is orange, so depending on its natural prey, the orange colour may actually be an advantage when hunting
Orange dragon taken over a massive dam sounds like a crazy encounter that if your players are smart can be much easier by letting the dam burst
And then they take the blame for the devastation down river from the dam...
8:56 one of the advantages metallic dragons have over most chromatic dragons is they have friends and family that can be willing to help them fight the orange dragon. Chromatic dragons not as much.
Been waiting adamantly to see all the chromatic dragons represented, having a complete color wheel is so satisfying. I’ve actually been brewing a DnD world involving great wyrm overlords of every color, including the ones not represented in 5e. Your videos have been a huge inspiration, especially when it comes to the concept of Tiamat’s murdered sister
Totally agree dude! Some despise seeing these dragons FINALLY get the attention they deserve. I dont care just make Tiamat either breed or find and absorb some of these missing Chromatics, sister or not. I would surely buy anything product related if WotC get their gears in motion. Only thing I would change with yellow coastal salt dragon is make thrm have WINGS or they steal the looks of Lung dragons. They got to have consistency of classic western dragon looks. And the 4e yellow dragon could be renamed to Tan/ Beige sand dragon, neighbour of the Brown desert and Blue rocky/ cliff/ sky dragon.
I love how you went into the Chemistry behind the differences between the Orange and Yellow Dragons’ breath weapons. I’m a HUGE Chemistry nerd, so this was an unexpected treat for me.
We totally need the sort of green dragon who breathes out a massive cone of elemental (=atomic) fluorine.
"Ohh, you have fire immunity, take 4d6 force damage"
To be really fearsome with it giving it some levels in casting spells like wall of water or watery sphere would make it quite insane. Of course it encountering players who can manipulate water could be interesting too. I'm sure the dragon would be rather shocked if a caster held a powerful spell blast of water for when their breath attack came and suddenly all that sodium spray that was meant to be on the adventurers is now back down their throat, but also very wet and about to explode internally.
Given that the dragon is immune to fire and that breath weapons are magically produced rather than stored, I dont think that would work
The fire/heat might not do it but what about the shock wave from the explosion?
Imagine tidal wave after breath weapon! 💥💥💥
I'd love to see you cover the lung dragons of Kara-Tur, now that you've finished covering these chromatic dragons.
We have lung dragons on the monster suggestion list on the discord. Is there a particular lung dragon that you'd like to see? So far the Lung Wang and Shen Lung are the most voted on.
Not the original commenter, but I'd love to see Yu lung dragons covered
@@KevinVideo If I were to choose I'd pick Tun Mi Lung or Shen Lung!
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Doing some back of the napkin maths, each segment of that liquid sodium breath weapon is hitting with about 328kg of mass at a minimum of 98°C (208°F). For context, that's over 7x the weight of a 155 Howitzer artillery shell, while also being boiling hot.
That is one nasty breath weapon even without the explosive bit.
Me after realizing what pure sodium does:
You had my curiosity; you have my attention.
If you want to complete the set, there are the brown dragons, grey dragons, and debatably the deep dragons (the 4e one is very different from 5E, which both are different from the pre 4e one).
Either way, thanks for your continued contributions to the draconic cause.
My pleasure! And yes, that'll be a good project for 2023!
@@DungeonDad glad I could help.
Not the mention the rest of the outer planes dragons. Like the battle, howling, radiant, and pyroclastic
@@JadenLingerfelt that’s why I specified the chromatics. There are 100ish dragons in DnD, and that’s before importing any Pathfinder or 3rd party ones.
You could do one based on Brangomar The Shadow Queen, a female fey slash dragon who exists in the realm of Faerie in the Champions Universe. She in her human looking fey form can cast various magic (limited to spells which have a Fairy Tale feal to them). In her dragon from is the same but also all her Dragon powers (the type is mostly Red except that her scales are purple to black).
She is a unique being. While her physical body can be killed, the realm of Faerie will regrow her, manipulating reality itself so that she always exists.
She can be found on page 169 to 172 of the Champions Villains Volume One: Master Villains.
Even before you brought it up as a plot hook, as soon as you said black and bronze dragons were a rival to the orange dragon, I immediately thought of one or both of them looking to hire the PCs to take down an orange dragon. The black dragon in particular would work as a double agent. Wait for the PCs to arrive, then when they got to the lair, the black dragon would immediately feint an attack on the party, but actually go after the orange dragon. They're very opportunistic and would hate being under someone's thumb, or in this case, claw.
Very much willing to wait on the spirit warrior. Congrats on getting the interview. Look at how far you've come.
If napalm took physical form and was a A-hole.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "We want MORE dragons!" One that comes to mind is the Fang Dragon, sometimes also known as the Gray Dragon. What makes them interesting is the fact that fang dragons didn't originally have a breath weapon (hence the name FANG dragon) until Tiamat did some expiraments to give new hatchlings an acidic breath weapon. The info is on the forgottenrealms wiki if you need a good place to start.
Fang and gray dragons are their own thing. WotC merged the two in 4th edition, much like how they merged song and steel dragons with metallic dragons who like playing pranks in 5th. Gray and fang are both on the list of monsters to convert over.
An ability I've given dragons is to spit their breath weapon as a projectile. Example: Fire breath = fireball. Orange dragon = delayed fireball. I can see an Orange Dragon using its breath to set traps for adventurers. Also a good minion for them would be water elementals.
Kablooey.
Wait, if Tiamat had a sister with yellow , purple orange, grey and brown, she would be even more powerful than Tiamat herself!
Also, if you used the bite attack as a grapple, the dragon could put sodium on its victim and dive under water with it. Which ends with an explosion.
Provided Taimat fought fair.
Honestly, probably the reason she killed her.
Please also cover the lesser known Gem and Metallic dragons! I want to see your take on Steel Dragons and Amethyst Dragons.
Steel dragons are on the suggestion list, but amethyst were already added to 5e's bestiary in Fizban's Treasury.
The orange, purple, and yellow dragon vids now have me wondering if there are additional metallic dragons to counterpart them
Sort of there are the ferrous dragons. No matter what Wotc says.
There are. You have adamantine, mithral, and iron, then you have the ferrous dragons like nickel, cobolt, and tungsten, just to name a few.
And orange and black dragon showdown would be great for Halloween. If the orange wins it can have a rematch with a bronze for Thanksgiving.
What’s funny about orange is that it’s worn by hunters because it’s the one color that’s not found in nature. And because it’s not found in nature, a lot of prey to these hunters, don’t see the color orange.
I'm surprised by the fact that Green Dragons aren't listed as a rival.
they prefer forests (presumably including rainforests) and have adaptations that suggest a preferance for areas with water.
Wasn't there a green in Isle of dread
Imagine if the orange and green rivals are also half-siblings, because their yellow dragon parent really got around.
I just showed this one to my DM, and now I'm scared of the odds of having a damn dragon spitting explosive vomit all around and having everyone panic over the flames after 5 seconds
Did this to my party of 8 lvl 11 characters, almost a tpk in 2 rounds, it was terrifying the amount of power it actually has when you use it
I tried my hand at making my own orange dragon after watching the purple dragon video and I feel so happy that I had the same thought process as an actual smart person, except I made it that the breath weapon has more of a goopy gel that sprays on targets and the water detonates it, so it means that an orange dragon has a more tactical use of its breath. And so I used it more like the explosive gel from the Batman: Arkham games, it already took off a tabaxi’s pelvis when he failed to not sweat when trying to take off his gel soaked pants
6:02 I hope editing this was a... BLAST! >:3
I am blown away at the effort you put into these videos and monsters. To make them 5E compatible AND making it all public. Awesome! I am new around here, finding you first with the yellow dragon video. Loved it. Would love to see you cover ALL colors of dragons.
Thanks so much! In 2023 I’m hoping to tackle the rest of the chromatic dragons and maybe even get started on some of the weirder metallic dragons!
If it causes an explosion shouldn't the breath attack deal force and fire damage instead of just fire damage. I don't get why 5e lists many explosives like grenades and powder kegs as dealing fire damage, explosions blast you apart not simply burn you. Other than that little gripe it is a great statblock adaptation, I love the creativity behind this dragon in particular.
Force damage in dnd is explicitly the damage dealt by raw magic, what your thinking of would be thunder damage which is the damage dealt by pressure waves and such
Wonderful video! Can't wait to see the next one! Now in addition of Chromatics, all that's left are Grey and Brown Dragons. And for the Metallic Dragons there's Cobalt, Electrum, Iron, Mercury and Steel Dragons. Hopefully that provides more content for you good sir! ;3
All of them are already on the list, but added your name to the number of requesters. Only one other person asked for the electrum dragon, so it's nice to see it getting some love.
@@KevinVideo Its required I have as much Dragon content as possible, for the sake of my DnD world I'm currently homebrewing
I’m imagining an ancient jungle city abandoned for centuries because the river burst its banks and now flows through the city. The locals know a black dragon has been living in the temple at the city’s centre, which it’s converted into a lair. What they don’t know is that the black dragon is the underling of an orange dragon, sitting in its cave lair near the top of the waterfall, giving it a bird’s eye view over the flooded city.
The two have a shared hoard which the black dragon rests on, with the orange dragon keeping its personal favourites in it’s own lair. This is for the security of both the treasure and the black dragon’s loyalty. “Sure it really belongs to me, but you’re the one who gets to hold onto it.”
I definitely want to run a oneshot with an Orange Dragon now. That plot idea about sudden plant growth in a jungle is intriguing, because when presented with such an incipit almost no one would expect a dragon to be behind it. You'd think it'd be something fey-related, or maybe something to do with a druid or druidic circle, but nah, actually it's a dragon type that 99% of players have no idea even existed.
Thank you!!! I've been writing a plot in a custom world dealing with the slain sister of Tiamat, and have been struggling writing Orange Dragons! This is the best New Years Gift I could have gotten from you!!!
Damn, all three of these are cool as all hell, don't know why they've not officially put them into the game again.
Also I'd love to see you do a video on the Nightwalker. Back when I got the 3e monster manual when I was a little kid and only wanted it for the cool artwork inside, I saw the Nightwalker and was instantly drawn to it, it's so damn cool, and as I got older and more into D&D I realized how badass that thing really is. So it'd be awesome to see you do one on them.
Happy New Year! After watching your videos about the Yellow and Purple Dragons I spent an hour looking for your video on the Orange 🍊 dragon before realizing u hadn't made it yet, so this was a nice surprise. Thank you 🥳💥🤘🏽
I wish I'd been aware of Orange Dragons when I was assembling my last 3.5 campaign (years after it was discontinued, but none of us wanted to play 4E). The BBEG was a Black Dragon using the Xorvintaal rules from Monster Manual 5(?) with one of her "exarchs" (I was using the templates, but didn't actually include the whole weird game concept; it just made the dragon easier to run) being a younger chromatic dragon she'd bullied into serving her, and making the BBEG an Orange Dragon and the minion into a Black Dragon would've been pretty fun.
I really like your video style. aproaching a topic from various angles. in terms of the mechanics of facing it, plot hooks, ecology, nature. its just very wholistic and good for inspiration.
As a side note, something I thought might be an interesting idea for many of these specialized dragons outside of the core 5 chromatic and metalic is that they are genetically kind of like mules. crosses between horses and donkeys who are infertile. Explaining why, despite how powerful they are, they are so rare. They aren’t self replicating.
Bruh, I remember AJ Pickett’s lore video on this things. Your rules for the breath weapon are just the right amount of brutal. I love it.
Yooo new dungeon dad post
So one thing that has kinda been lost over the years and is one of my favorite parts of tiamat lore-
She doesn't have to just be the main 5 chromatic heads. whatever realm she or her avatar show up on each head can be replaced by whatever type of chromatic dragon exists there.
So not only can they be different you have have even more variety i. the type of actions and chaos the character takes because of the head used, Which could be why she tried so hard to make her sister extinct because it was causing just a problem for her plans that it had to be done
It’s funny to me that the rogue’s evasion still lets them take only half damage if they take a swim while covered in sodium goo.
The sole reason terrain is a non issue for the orange dragons breath attack, is because, lake, river, desert, all is irrelevant when you remember that dragons have spell casting abilities. In adnd dragons dont have a spellbook, they get spell slots and levels dependent on age, and the DM decides from there. Create water depending on edition ranges but is never higher than a 2nd or 3rd level (havent seen it but table rules change things at times, and some desert campaigns opt to have it be higher level). But dragons get spell powers at a relatively young age. And depending on edition dragons also get to both attack and cast a spell each round or breathe and cast a spell, or just breathe, or spell, or attack, again, the rules vary. But even if it is just breathe, the orange dragon could just create water at a high volume to douse a character before or after the breath attack, or even the party depending on how bunched they are. More or less, if your a creative DM ^_^ an orange dragon will have explosions, one way or another
An orange dragon is central to the Judges Guild module _Under the Storm Giant's Castle_, published a few years prior to Dragon #65. I remember the balloon people much better than the dragon, but I'm sure it's a very different creature than the one in Dragon Magazine. (Definitely don't go out of your way looking for the module.)
Now i wanna make a yellow dragonborn
Lovely! A few tips just in case. If using established elemental dmg/ resistance types, then use poison. Salt poisoning is a thing, search it up and thats where the Green dragon inherits its breath weapon from. For yellow dragonborn head apperance? Alot of frills on head and cheeks, no horns/ spikes and some frills on chin. For true dragon looks I would have Yellow dragons be max frilled and have a taller frill down from the head to end of tail that rivals the silvers and greens. With pointier wings to cut through the air the best of all while being decent swimmers 120ft m.
Saving to watch later since I'm sitting next to the Dungeon Dad right now and it'd be rude
My DM sprang one of these on my group, once. We had foreknowledge and prep time, though, so we had several ways to cast Grease on hand. The DM was confused, until we showed him how elemental sodium is packaged.
Now, what would other potential chromatic dragon hybrids work like?
When a orange dragon kills a adventuring party;
OH THEY WILL HAVE TO GLUE YOU BACK TOGETHER, IN THE 9 HELLS.
orange dragon? more like napalm dragon
I once home brewed a hybrid gold/black dragon who literally breathes napalm and can light it with a second breath weapon. He can also combine them to breathe what is essentially the fireball spell. Also, small suggestion, maybe orange dragons could have tiger-like stripes to help them camouflage.
Very Nice! Please, consider doing the Gloom Dragon (dragon magazine #344) as the next dragon. All the best for next year!
It is added to the suggestion list on DD's discord.
Sweet YT algorithm, Batmon! Since YT decided to feed me the is video, I went through the Yellow and Purple dragon vids as well. I'm definitely interested in the potential lore that could be built around Tiamat and her mysterious sister.
I like the idea of Tiamat's sister actually being an even greater evil, and working off of the Color Theory foundation. What if both of these Evil Chromatic Dragon Goddesses' originally had 5 Colors?
Tiamat having: Red, Blue, Yellow, Black, and White.
The unnamed sister having: Purple, Green, Orange, Brown, and Grey.
Perhaps they originally worked together in their cunning plans to overthrow other gods, amass wealth and power, and other goals. But in time, a subtle rift grew between them. Envious of her sister's breath powers and how many of her sister's offspring were more powerful than her own, thus able to control more territories and accumulate more wealth for her, Tiamat began a plot against her own sister. It would take a millennia before her plans came to fruition, and while she suffered significant losses of her own, when the time finally came Tiamat seized the opportunity to slay her sister and consume her essence, power, and divinity. Following this, she and her avatars would have the ability to manifest with any of the Chromatic Dragon colors for their heads. In this way, Tiamat would carry the memory of her sister with her forever, and a portion of her sister's power, cruelty, and evil would henceforth be added to her own.
In time, all those ancient dragons and long-lived mortals who remembered the sister of Tiamat would meet their end, naturally or otherwise. Only the most ancient of beings such as other Gods might have memory or records of the forgotten chromatic goddess. But what use is there in remembering a past threat, when a very real danger in the form of Tiamat lurks in the depths of the realms, plotting?
This conflict with her sister could also be a tie-in reason as to why Tiamat is stuck in Hell.
I should say, I did end up taking some heavy inspiration from your yellow dragon video. I started working with the idea of Tiamat's eviler chromatic sister, and then decided to instead have the sister be the mother of gem dragons, and then promptly threw all the official gem dragon lore in the bin. Currently the party is adventuring across The Forgotten Realms with a statue in a sack that contains the sealed soul of Tiamat who is directing them on how to defeat her worse sister. Didn't use the idea you had exactly but it was a very helpful jumping off point :)
So your Tiamats sister have 5 heads: Yellow, Orange, Purple, Gray and Brown? Would make sense, if not well.. Io is THE dragon god and he IS all colors. I bet on some olanet, some version of Tiamat he could gift her with the missing ones or she could find some and absorb them for to spawn them herself
@@odinulveson9101 no no. Sorry for the confusion.
My tiamat has the standard rgbwb colors. Her sister is the creator of ‘stone’ dragons in my setting. The stones I chose were quartz, garnet, lapis lazuli, opal, emerald, and alexandrite. I chose to make my own dragons instead of the standard ones offered by dnd.
Yes! I have been waiting for this.
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes YES!!!!!!
I sub'd within 2min of the video to your channel...but when you threw the TPB reference that just solidified my choice to even more!!!!!!!!!
LET'S GO!
Lore Idea: Orange Dragons could be ferocious Terraformers. Flames to clear vegetation, explosions to carve new rivers to suit their needs, a long-term viewpoint to maximize their efforts, and the might to crush anything that objects. The lingering magic of their breath may even act as a potent fertilizer, accelerating plant regrowth, hiding their new home from view, and explaining the animate flora that springs up around them.
Campaign Idea: A series of misfortunes begin to plague a town on the edge of a jungle. An Orange dragon hires the party, who are instructed to side with the settlement's leader, (a somewhat venomous but ultimately good person,) but make no mention of the dragon's involvement. As the various problems are solved, the leader reveals they had antagonized an orange dragon some years ago and were worried it had been the cause of the misfortunes. (It wasn't) Upon leaving the area, the party is contacted and rewarded by the Orange dragon who, if questioned happily explains that they fully intend to destroy the town to spite the leader sometime in the future. Until then they've been secretly supporting the place to ensure its eventual destruction hurts all the more.
Small correction: The slime of the dragons breath isn't made of sodium, it just contains a large amount of sodium particulates that are exposed to the air as the slime evaporates.
So it's basically delayed action napalm? That's fuckin awesome
@justinthompson6364 Napalm is more of a slow burn. This is more like turning adventurers into very short-lived sparklers.
@@aaroncunningham8307 yeah, I say napalm mostly because of the stickiness
realistically, even that bit of clarification is still a pretty big, "oh shit," moment for anyone with knowledge on how pure sodium reacts with water.
And added to my realms. Tyvm
Just in time for my Saltmarsh campaign ❤
Also the dragon fires a beam with a delayed explosion? Is it an anime monster?
You know, I thought during the yellow dragon video that whoever wrote the original wasn't thinking through the chemical implications of a pure salt breath weapon. That oversight has definitely been corrected here
WTF was that last moment on the vid!?! xD Bro can DANCE!! And that song was funky AF...
You honestly deserve so much more recognition, your channel is so so much more entertaining than most and the content you make is incredible
the spell grease could be use to nullify the sodium if the DM allows it. Could add a nice element to combat
You gave me such a cool encounter idea, it’s also thematic with my DnD world! Thank you for sharing such an awesome and unique dragon that not many players know about!
Another comment pointed this out, but I'll re-iterate. Orange is actually great camouflage for a jungle. Tigers prey can't see orange for example and they actually look greenish for example, and orange obscured by shadow looks brownish to eyes that can see it
Wow, i expected that Orange dragon breath would be explosive, but didnt expect it that awesome way, great video
I hope you make the gem dragons, I really love them
The majority of the gem dragons are already in 5e with Fizban's release. The only one not covered so far the ruby dragon. I can add your name to that one. Only one other person has suggested it.
@@KevinVideowhaaaat, I didn't knew about that, and if you could that would be awesome, thank you so much
@@SterkHarbeck If there's any other monsters (and dragons) you want to see covered let me know and I'll your name to those too. Brown and Gray are already maxed out for requests, as well as as the chair and calzone golems, but anything else is on the table.
Really interesting dragon I had no idea existed thanks for the video
Yo, Dungeon Daddy, I greatly enjoy your content as a DM who also likes updating old Monsters that I fought against in campaigns growing up. Keep up the great content pal. Also, a fun fact for you! While Adventurers would certainly make out an Orange Dragon's vibrant scales against its environment, it actually wouldn't cause it much trouble when it comes to hunting normal meals around its den. For the same reasons a tiger can still blend in to surrounding foliage, most animals outside of Humans, Apes, and Monkeys don't have trichromatic vision and can't perceive the color Orange. When animals without the correct rods in their eyes look at something Orange, their vision can't adjust to perceive the color as we do and it actually comes out as a deep Green color. This is how Tigers, while vibrantly out of place in their habit to us, can still just as easily sneak up on prey through thick foliage as any other predator. For a further, sillier note; a Fawn, Firbolg, or even Aarakocra would not be able to tell apart an Orange and Green Dragon, if you want to rule that they had eyes similar to their design-rooted, animal counterparts.
Found you with the mercury dragon video. Been hooked and systematically going through all dragon videos. Thanks for your work.
Great video and it sounds like the next is going to be even better. I'm sure it'll be worth the wait, you've never let us down before :)
Dungeon Dad: They're orange, they don't camouflage well.
Me, looking at Orangutans and Tigers: You sure about that?
To see the joy in my kids eyes when I run our weekly game means EVERYTHING to me. You have helped me a lot in making this happen. Thank you very very much.
"just clean it off"...*uses prestidigitation to make it slaw off like one would do with any dirt, blood, sewage*
Yes, I remember this when I first saw the yellow dragon I decided to make a dungeon and Dragon dragon campaign. Basically they had to go around and collect scales from every single type of dragon or you can create a few Home brew ones and some that I found online they even faced false hydra not a dragon, but it was fun out of the orange dragon was my favorite. Even told them pure line of sodium and they did exactly what you said some guy threw water on them because they knew what they were sprayed with lights on fire, after a few seconds, so one of them thought it was a good idea to pour water on his friend. It was not a good idea. They did manage to resurrect him, but he was quite pissed. He got blowed up and was gone for a session. We were thinking of giving him a new character, but he wanted his character to be resurrected, so he just played an NPC that got hired for that mission.
I've got a LOT of ideas. in my homebrew world I'm planning a large scale war with underdark races capturing and making deals with dragons, so using the Torgue (EXPLOSIONS?) dragon here is just so much fun!
This is my 2nd favorite dragon
Pink is still #1 the thought of a dragon being funny is amazing
Just now i realize something.....
So Metallic Dragons can "crossbreed" too? Forming Alloys? So when the do the.... "thing" they are Smelting? Casting? They do it in the "foundry"?
I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!
Sooo. Copper, Silver and Gold are the purest of the known 5. Brass is mix of copper and zinc, Bronze is a mix of copper and tin.
Yet theres no tin and zinc dragons. Theres these ferrours ironish dragons that could not be expanded on the metallic dragons list. BUT Orium, Adamantine, Electrum, Mithral and Mercury is valid 👍
Not sure if you'll reply to this, but I homebrewed them myself and decided to give them Spell Casting, I gave them several Earth and Water spells, including things like watery sphere, wall of water, and bones of the earth, you can imagine the chaos that caused. I also gave the party a couple of Kobolds to help guide them through the lair... and as fodder to kind of teach them what the breath weapon did, well one of the party members threw one in the water in an attempt to wash it off and blew up half the party.
another thing to think about when it comes to jungles is that a lot of wildlife only has bichromatic vision rather than trichromatic vision, and have trouble processing the color red. Essentially, orange would appear to be the same as green to, say, any ungulates the dragon chooses to hunt, which would mean that the dense cover of the jungle would be perfect to camouflage it from its prey.
I pictured it living in like a orange canyon huge in size with different levels of cliffs could even have an active river or caves running through it
4:10 holy cow, the implementations of that is wild. XD
People would probably tend to don't appreciate how have a huge chunk of forest with all it's water fonts turned slightly salty is an immense treat!
The thing is, it would very slowly dehydrates every human character (and any other races/species that have similar metabolic needs as humans). But the party members not necessarily would understand the why, bc the water doesn't need to have enough salt to be tasted to have that effect, if it's the only kind of water they have and have a day of travelling on the woods, without a clear trail to follow, carrying heavy backpacks and under hot weather. The only real alert would be the feeling that the water doesn't really quench their thirst for long...
Love the rare chromatic dragon videos. It would be awesome to see some lore of the lesser known metallic dragons or gem dragons as well.
They're on the list. Probably going to be a while though.
The true gem dragons are already in 5e in Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, but the old AD&D jade and ruby dragons are still on the list. They don't really count as "gem" dragons though, according to their lore.
an other environment for them could be Lakecountry and/or Riverlands making them competitors for Greens since these areas are normally well forested.