TCL 115-inch TV First Test - So Many Records BROKEN!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- We tested the world's biggest single-piece TV not made up of modules, namely the 115-inch TCL X955 Max Mini LED TV which was installed at the Richer Sounds Manchester store.
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I like how Vincent still sits 2 meters away for a 115" TV
Gotta get that 4D effect.
He's watching Gal Gadot, dude. He's going to sit REAL close.
You know, to examine the detail in WW's armor and ricocheting bullet sparks.
For the movie theater-like FOV
115", 5,000 nits and 20,000 dimming zones sure is impressive. but mostly i'm just happy to see somebody other than Sony and Samsung deliver a Jaw Dropping TV to send big boys the message that they actually have to compete and not simply work out an agreement with each other to sell overpriced junk.
20,000 dimming zones is NOT impressive whatsoever.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
4K has over 8 million pixels.
20,000 zones is nowhere near enough to cover 8 million+ pixels.
The LCD TV that came the closest to OLED's contrast ratio is the now-discontinued Hisense U9DG Dual Cell LCD 4K TV which has over 2 MILLION local dimming zones thanks to its secondary 1080p grayscale panel.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M that’s why it’s mini LED and not microLED
If you had as many local dimming zones as pixels, It’s literally the next technology🙄 and right now that next technology cost over $100,000, so…
And as for being accurate - I don’t think we should call it “4K TV”- to me that would mean 4000 x 4000 = 16M pixels. In fact it’s 3840 x 2160 pixels (which doesn’t even have any relationship to 4K anything) = 8.3M pixels. We should be calling it 8.3M TV in my opinion…
Perfectly said !!!
@@kineahora8736 The naming "4K" does not refer to the resolution but to the horizontal pixel count. It derives from "DCI 4K" (Digital Cinema Initiatives) which has a resolution of 4096×2160!
3840x2160 is the resolution that is used in the consumer market because it keeps the 16:9 aspect ratio...
@@RedLeo-pf9yo NOT exactly!
The double entendre humor is in full brightness mode, love it.
There is usually one humorous comment per video, I look for it.
@@darylcheshire1618 We got two in this one. I feel spoiled.
*ding*
10 seconds must seem like an eternity at 115"!
*ding*
that IMPACT
Oh really?
Checked the price of the TV.... 27K!!!!!
Yeah... I'm pretty sure projectors will be fine! 🤣
yeah if money is not an object then sure but 🤦♂
Indeed.
@@logirexEven if I was super wealthy, that's a goofy amount of money to pay for a television.
But TCL has had 98 inch TV’s on sale as low as $2000 that still look better than projectors that cost more. Vincent did a video on this a while ago. Projectors may not be “in trouble” but they will have to significantly lower prices if they want to compete with TV’s.
It's way cheaper in China, it's under $10k if you buy in China
Next, TCL will be offering a full sized drive-in movie theater with land.
Projectors have always had inferior picture quality
bro is hilarious and no one appreciates it
I do
Literally everyone appreciates it
Every one does 😂 that's how he has gotten so big
are you kidding, haha. We love it. I just expect it at this point. It's the icing on his reviews.
Don't worry, we noticed
The 10 second marathon man lol great content Vincent
Don’t let Sean Kingston know 😂
OMG ThIs TV is over $25k and you think $1200 to $3000 UST's are in trouble...dude you're delusional. 😂
eh I think projectors will stick around until there's an easier way to get these 100+ inch TVs around like through doors or up some stairs as well as price
Yeah because those things are so difficult my next tv after 83” could be 65”
Also selling them or even giving them to someone is difficult. No one could take my 77” OLED even for free, because it’s simply not physically possible to move there, so it’s been with me unused for years.
About the 98 inch TCL in November 1923. The movers had no problem, dropping it off in my upstairs living room. And then a week later me and My Cousin pulled it out of the box and put it together quite easily. And I’m 53 years old and in extremely poor health.
@@kiisseli1337uhaul truck is recommended
@@kiisseli1337 What model year is it?
0:23 of course, Vincent, of course 😏 😆
Vincent was finally able to watch wonder woman in full glory HDR and hoping he is now satisfied with 1:1 representation
When this hits 10k we are buying. The jvc x9000 is the last projector I’ll ever buy.
Height is only 1.5m so easy to get through the door.
You can buy it in China for $10k (80k yuan)
@@Albrts oh good! So hopefully in the coming years we will see price drops
I helped a friend wall mount a 100U8K. It absolutely destroys every picture quality aspect of my JVC NX7. The Hisense is brighter, sharper, better contrast, better black levels, better shadow detail, better color depth and accuracy, better screen uniformity, Dolby Vision, lower input lag, 120hz VRR, much less expensive, etc. The only advantage the projector has is size. The JVC will be my last projector, my next display will be an extra large mini LED.
Oh and for the dummies in comments yelling about the $27K price of this TCL: the JVC NZ9 cost $23K which does not include the screen, interconnects, sound system, ceiling mount, installation, etc. The NZ900 will be close to $30K and both will not yield anywhere close to the picture quality of a much cheaper direct display. Plus unlike JVC and Sony projectors, these new large displays will come down in price very quickly and there are currently 100” LEDs available now for less than $3K.
Great comment…👍🏾
There is some charm still to a projector, you don’t have to squint to protect your retinas when explosions happen on screen 😎
Nothing wrong with being excited about a tiny 115 inch tv, but thinking it puts projectors in trouble is lunacy.
1. The tv costs $20,000 for a 115 inch screen. I bought a brand new Bbianlyy native 4k projector for $189. It comes with bluetooth, electronic keystone, hdr10 support and I get a 151 inch screen.
2. You need a crane to transport that heavy monstrosity to your house and at least two men to install it. I caried my projector home in my backpack, set it on a shelf and was watching it 5 minute after I got home.
3. The bigger the tv screen, the more annoying reflections you have to del with. haven't had a reflection issue since 2017.
4. The TCL will always be a niche product that will not appeal to the average consumer. The best selling tv' on Amazon is a Vizio 40 inch that sold 10,000 units last month, The TCL 65 inch moved 8000 units. The best selling projector was the Happrun 1080p that moved over 10,000 units last month and costs $69.00.
With budget 4k projector prices dropping in price, there's no way a $20,000 tv could put the projector market in BIG trouble. It's TOO little and expensive to cause even a blip in the projector market.
@@TheMeefive _"I bought a brand new Bbianlyy native 4k projector for $189"_
lol... comparing a Fiat 500 with a Bugatti
@budala1969 Maybe you missed the point. 2020 I bought a 1080p for $238. The cheapest 1080p was $189. Now you can get native 1080p for $69.
The Bbianlyy may not be the greatest native 4k projector but it's the first native 4k for under $200. It's just a matter of time before other native 4k projectors start selling for $100 or less.
Now you laugh at the comparison but as I pointed out, the average consumer doesn't buy Bugatti.
Big TVs are cool, but until they support my 3D Blu-ray's, I'll stick to my ust projectors
What is the one 3D blu ray that you would recommend to everyone that makes the technology worth it?
@brandonchutt312 not making it easy on me picking only one haha
Guess I'd have to go with valerian city of a thousand planets.. or maybe Alita, or ghost in the shell.. ready player one err jumper. Idk, maybe I have bad taste but I enjoy em
115-Inch Mini? Quite an oxymoron, me thinks.
It's under 6 feet tall so in 2024 it count as a Short King.
Quite the Mini Lad.
One thing no reviewer ever tells you is that moving between apartments/houses with a 98" or 115" TV is going to be a nightmare (+gigantic black rectangle on the wall).
How stark was the HDR difference (vs UST projectors) in a dark room ?
1:44 Well UST projectors don't do 5K nits in any room.
@cgott42: Literally night and day.
Are you going to review iPad Tandom Oled?
Thanks for reviewing this TV!
for me 10 sec is actually a very long time
8.5 more than I need. 😢
I can get a nap halfway through that epic marathon.
Honest question why not Wizard of Oz 4k transfer?
Are you asking why He didn't use the film as a Reference? Since Wizard of Oz already got a 4K release.
Vincent Teoh is simply streets ahead of the competition when it comes to the details that matter! Amazing :)
Please test bravia 7 vs X95L!
Yep as soon as OLED is affordable at those sizes kiss projectors good bye
But oled is dim (at least nowadays) :(
@@bioresadent I don't know why people say this, you must all be watching your OLED's with the sun a mere 10ft behind you. My OLED is so fucking bright, its almost hurts. I turn it down a lot of the time.
@@HalfDayHero yeah I do NOT understand the OBSESSION with nits a screen that big should be in a dedicated home theater anyways
sooooo NEVER lol
@@HalfDayHero I find that hard to believe... My C4 isn't as dim as my CX was.... but still, if I don't have it at 100% pixel brightness it's pretty damn underwhelming.
Projectors have the ability to have different aspects ratios. Lord of the rings should be watched on a 2.35:1 screen.
as always
amazing content, Thank you vincent
All this means is TV for a ridiculous price can beat a projector.
However now gives UST projects a reason to be better then they are now.
And oh course they will always have to be cheaper otherwise the TV will still be the best pick.
So UST needs to be close to this at a cheaper price and UST is king again!
Still can't come close to 100% rec2020.
This is why UST are so good color depth is very important for pop and real looking image.
Coupled with low blacks a good contrast.
Can't wait for the this new USTs
How far we should sit from that size of the screen while we playing games?
Around 10ft is how far I sit from my projector screen that's 120".
10 inches for immersion
Vincent, you know projectors and panels have different use cases. Why not have an intelligent discussion about this? Projectors still have their place. (Typing this next to an OLED, but I've got a projector in the main room, which I love. They are different experiences.)
@RandomUnassignedYTHandle: We have alluded to this before, but home cinema projectors can never reproduce the creative intent, because home distribution releases (4K Blu-rays, streaming, etc.) are graded on direct-view reference monitors, different from theatrical distribution for commercial cinemas.
Thank you for your reply. Long time fan of you and your channel! Well, I see what you're saying. I do hope home projection continues to progress though. As I do enjoy the reflected light experience. On my screen or even expanded to the entire wall, I just love this thing. And of course for those of us in a smaller place, but who still want a big screen, it helps make this accessible.
Anyone thinking itll be black friday until $10k? Am I dreaming? Lol
I wonder if this TV would also need to be replaced after two years, just like their other models?
whats wrong with tcl?
@@reinhart.siegershorter lifespan than the competition.. We had one a few years back..
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@@reinhart.sieger they have a reddit and YT is removing my comment just for saying the name of that website
@@reinhart.sieger this is funny YT is deleting my comment
You couldn't even get that TV in most flats and maybe even most ground floor detached homes without removing a window. Due to the design of the flat I am in it would be impossible to get this in especially as I'm 6 floors up in a high rise.
Most people will be even be able to fit a 150 inch tv in their house. It's just most people wouldn't be able to get it up or down their stairs. It would have to go in their living room
Its only 1.5m tall. I already have a 120 inch screen in my ground floor flat. We will buy one of these when they hit 10k
a 110 inch TV in even a decently sized flat in the UK would be quite ridiculous
@@MA-jz4yc Y'all must only have short ceilings if you feel this way
I don't think the tv is designed for people living in flats.
Projector will be in big trouble when this tv cost less than 4.000 us dollars , but for now I'm very happy with my Dangbei Mars Pro 4k laser projector and my 135 inches screen 😎👍
Vincent, can you review the TCL C855K, please? It seems like it might be a bit more affordable for people lol. Does anyone know if the C855K is equivalent to the TCL QM8 2024? The different names for different countries are a little frustrating, lol. Thanks in advance!
Projectors will still be the go to in a cinema room. 115" reflective glass will make it impossible to have any decent sound acoustic.
there is something called Apparent Field of View , or Apparent FOV . The further away you are from something the smaller it gets . Say you see a small tree in the distance , you say well this is a small tree . You come closer its actually 100x bigger then you . But now you are too close , you cant see all of the tree . Hence there is optimal viewing point to absorb the quality and awesomeness of that tree . Same goes for TVs , i have 65inch TV , but i use it as a monitor im a foot away , or about half a meter . Its giant . Too big .
But i got it so that i can watch Movies from my bed and i dont want to keep a monitor near by , since its OLED , i can make a window , or make it as big or small as i want . So its all good . I change the size depending on where im looking from , optimal Field of View for a TV kind of goes 2.5x its size , so for 65inch TV , you sit 2.5x times that or some 200inchs away . And you can do this down to 8 inch monitors , its all the same .
Only difference is the further away you are the better , focusing your eyes on near things for long strains them and leads to eye sight problems . But theoretically you can take a 10inch tablet , and make it look like 65inch TV , just watch it from 25inches away , it will be the same size as 65inch TV .
So you need to calculate the size of TV , or get an OLED , its all black so you can resize it , at least on PC you can . And 4K is good enough to do that .
Tcl c855 ,plz review
🖐🏼 Please do Samsung 23 ultra and s24 ultra, lenovo yoga pro 9i 2024 display reviews.
And the Honor Magic 6 Ultimate and the 2024 iPad Pro.
Both of those devices use Tandem OLED panels.
I have been following Mediatek for so long and I am so glad that they have released a new tv chipset - pentonic 800
I'm curious as to if you can wall mount something like that easily? When these get to be around 10-15k, I think they will be a serious threat to projectors. I am def interested in one that is around 140 inches.
I have 85" inch TV and its a beast ... beast to move it :) i can imagine how inconvenient 115" must be. For cinema experience is still a little to small ... 130" to 150" its the goal. So projectors are still the way to go. Nits nits < size size ... in theater the picture is also not perfect. But it is big :) Very big. Thats the catch. Also projector picture at home will remind as more to picture look at theaters.
Has TCL reliability improved? Last TCL tv I purchased in 2018 for my sports bar lasted only 11 months. It was on for about 10, 11 hours daily. Still, my Samsung and LG tv's still working great after 6, 7 years of usage the same amount of hours. I was trying to be cheap. I'm considering buying this 115 inch for my bar but reliability is my biggest concern, thoughts any one?
At this screen size 8k would make a massive difference, wouldn't it?
@EvilijoUK: 8K should make a difference at this screen size (though we wouldn't go so far as to say it's massive), but the brightness would drop due to lower light transmittance, and the higher power consumption probably wouldn't pass EU energy regulations.
what is the equivalent in terms of specifications of TCL QM851G in Europe
To transport and install that giant butt of a TV is a hassle and the price is insane, maybe projectors aren't in such a trouble just yet...
i used a cardboard model to test the largest size TV that i can get into my basement ( where you would want your home theater to be ) and it was only about 85 inches ... so projectors have some life in them still ... but when you see a truly bright screen it is hard to go back ... remember 5,000 nits is NOTHING compared to outdoor brightness ... we are going to see brightness of screens increasing to at least 10,000 nits.
You buy the TV and then build your house around it!
😂
@@haukionkannel LMAOO not if you're constantly upgrading it every 12 months you're NOT! 🤣
Projectors get even more expensive, and this price will come down. Fast and hard.
@@UptownNYCMake your walls MODULAR. 😂😂😂
But this isn't really in the realm of what people can afford, what about 83" G4 vs 98" X955?
Never dreamed there would be so many 100 inch or bigger TVs to choose from!
excellent large screen experience and it works in the Livingroom with the lights on and can do proper HDR.
When I told my girlfriend, she wasn't impressed at first by 10 seconds, but then I told her its 115 inches.../wink
As much as I would love this in my home we’re talking a 9.5 ft screen here most walls just can’t take them let alone average consumer who wants a max 65 it’s a real shame tcl doesn’t offer this flagship 9 series in house friendly sizing without downgrading hardware if tcl were truly want more sold they should offer rival mini max specs to beat Samsung and Sony offering the lg sadly also hardware limits there mini display so accuracy doesn’t rival g4 series oled
Please review something a little more affordable for us, a review of the TCL c855 would great
Thank you so much for always being so brilliant. I love your TV knowledge. 🙏
Hi Vincent hdtvtest is hisense u8n better than tcl qm851g in picture and sound
Thank you for this pointless probably paid review of a TV i will never even consider buying
I still prefere projectors than a giant tvs like this one. Why? They are easier on the eyes and they are more discrete in the room. I dont want to have a huge 115 inch tv in my room because it would overwhelms it.
not really - but maybe in ten years when you can get it for 3000€ - not 25.000€ ;-)
these TVs are impressive but I will stay with that cinematic look that you only get with projectors
Massive TV TCL 115 inch! Official World Record
115 inch TV, sounds awesome. So many dimming zones but it's TCL and the price is too much considering the fact that its algorithm isn't able to beat the X95L. Hope TCL and Hisense can at least match the X95L's algorithm one day, with their number of zones they'll be able to give great value to us consumers.
I guess since no one else has a 115 inch TV, TCL can price it what they want, makes sense. But still would've expected a bit better local dimming performance. At least it's better than Samsung tho lol
So we are finally closing the 10000 nits…
Wake me up, when we get there!
Did he get a sunburn from this tv
I am interested in the 85" x955 version. That one should be large enough for me and price is much better
Are you also planning to review the hisense 110inch TV ?
@JayDpwnz: Yes, should the opportunity arise.
Wonder woman is so down my list if movies i wanna see if hypothetically i got this tv.
My wallet have trouble too.
I'm ready for one in my living room but need it to go on sale first...
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Imagine µLED.
1:35 154000 nits? Ah, so when pointed at the sun? 👍
It really depends. For a dedicated home cinema with acoustic fabric it's useless. Even in a normal cinema it wouldn't be my choice. One big reflection point.
@onlyvik: We have alluded to this before, but home cinema projectors can never reproduce the creative intent, because home distribution releases (4K Blu-rays, streaming, etc.) are graded on direct-view reference monitors, different from theatrical distribution for commercial cinemas.
@@hdtvtest Hi Vincent. My point is not about the video quality, todays tv's are way better than projectors I know that.
Ouch. That input lag spike with local dimming enabled is a deal breaker for me. Damnit. Does anybody know if the 23’ QM850G has that same input lag increase with local dimming enabled? Maybe this is just an early firmware bug?
Well the 850g doesn’t have high local dimming available in game mode, so the 851g does but at the expensive of lag.
@@TheMailerDaemonLives Hm, so maybe this is just an LD High issue? I’m going to reach out to Rtings in hopes they’ll test all three LD settings when they do their input lag measurements. Looks like they just purchased the 24’ QM8 so they should begin working on it soon.
Dude went with one of the most mid movies to debut this screen. 😭
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There is a reason Linus abandoned his projector plans and kept the TV in his theater room.
Linus?
Very trustful. : ' )
@@walterverbeeck6929 he bought it with his own money and it's in his basement
Come on, you’re a professional calibrator, you should know that a TV will never replace a projector. Not because of the quality, but a direct-view will never be able to replicate the look and feel of reflective display (projectors).
@DavidSusiloUnscripted: True. Home cinema projectors can never reproduce the HDR creative intent, because home distribution releases (4K Blu-rays, streaming, etc.) are graded on direct-view reference monitors, different from theatrical distribution for commercial cinemas.
This tv good for Minecraft?
please compare micro led tv vs qd oled tv
Much prefer a large TV to a projector. Just wish they would make 21:9 models!
just watch things with black bars i don't get it
@@ramoncastillo532 With TV's this big it means the difference between whether it will fit or not. My room can fit a 97" 16:9 TV max but I could fit a 140" 21:9 TV! Don't forget about leaving room for your speakers, especially center channel.
@@brandobond You'll probably need to wait for modular micro-LED to become affordable.
Why did they stop at 115" 🤔, why not 120" ( just 5 inch short, why?) which is a standard screen size for projectors.
Also have you realised how the HDTV review itself would look lik on giant 115" display (Theo's face covering 90% of the screen), or Brian's Therapy channel 😂how about the news channels and boring game shows that you watch 70% of the time😂
We need something to happen with these black bars because how are you able to buy a 115 inch TV but still looks small because of the black bars? 😂
Motion on lcd verse’s a projector
Hello, what would you recommend between an oled 97 G4 (without mla) and a 115X955 max for a room dedicated to full black (without taking price and size into account)?
I just hope TCL and Sony force Samsung to a better UI and I can finally buy Samsung OLEDs. Otherwise LG will have to give me a better colour volume or a cheaper MLA+ unit.
I move from a Xiaomi 84" 4K Laser TV to a TCL 85" 4K QLED with Full HDMI 2.1 120Hz FreeSync Premium Pro, eARC/ Atmos and much More.
Can you please make a comparison with FSI XMP310 vs SONY HX3110? I’m a colorist, thinking about getting the FSI, and I’d love to know more about that
Thanks in advance
This must be the DUB edition 💀
Vincent, if it's 2400 nits HGiG, vs say 1500 on the LG G4 in HGiG...these super bright Mini LED's aren't going to look twice as bright for gamers like many have thought they would because they see 5000 nits peak on the box. Just an observation, as these 3000 to 5000 nit tv's get released and people compare them to the brightest Oleds for HDR.
Are their any other differences between this tv and the qm851g besides the size, price, and the amount of local dimming zones?
In about 2-3 years from now, you'll be able to buy 120" TV at a price lower than 115" TV available today. Mark my words.
bigger always better
We need the HDR standard to start doing 4,000 Nits HDR graded content instead of 1,000 nits now. Even OLEDs are up at 1500 nits and even higher at times. Same with most higher end MinILED which goes even higher. We need to be able to experience HDR as it was meant to be seen past 1K nits.
Vincent, I'd love to hear your thoughts on iPad Pro's OLED 1000 cd/m² brightness in 100% window. Maybe I should watch HDR movies there instead of my LG OLED TV.
This is obviously unobtainable for 99% of consumers - the 98" is going to be FAR more interesting to see when you get it for review. That's something that mere mortals can possibly afford.
Is your electrical bill also in big trouble with that 950 watt consumption?
Or do you also have a sponsor who pays your electric bill?
And again you refer to a comparison with a old Samsung UST projector and dito UST screen, when was it the last time that you reviewed new UST projectors and recent new UST screens?
Do you know of any newer projectors that can deliver similar HDR levels and contrast?)
As far as power consumption is concerned, even an ignorant person realizes that a very large TV panel will also consume the corresponding electricity.
I imagine the same question about who will pay for the electricity, you will also have it for the reviews concerning powerful home cinema amplifiers and 500-1000 watt subwoofers.
if you can't pay 1000kwh per year the average consumption for this television, then this (or any large) television does not fit your financial profile.
If you're worrying about electricity cost, you can't afford this TV or anything similar.
@@budala1969I can afford this tv, but on long turn, the energy cost of using of such device is to way high.
Energy may dirt cheap where you live, but that ain't the case in Europe.
It's like buying a Ferrari or a Porsche, you can afford to buy it, but it needs quite a lot of fuel and expensive maintenance.
@@walterverbeeck6929 High end PJs use a ton of power too. As do PCs. The current top commercial video card, RTX 4090, alone uses 450W.
@@walterverbeeck6929Europeans don't the have rooms big enough for a 115in TV 😂 Even if you use the TV for 5 hours a day at $0.2/kWhr that's still only a dollar a day. It's not that crazy expensive.
There's any explanation to why the xbox HDR menu does white clipping at 2400 nits if the TV is able to over 5000?
How about the TCL 163 inch Micro LED compared to this? I think it should be better in 8K regarding it's screen size.
Even compared to awol 3500 ust????? The eye strain from the direct light from this tv must really hurt your eyes in the long run compared to a ust projector