Sat For Years With A Seized Engine, Can I Rebuild It And Drive It Back To Where It Was Made?
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- This beautiful 1962 Rover P4 100 2.6 has been laid up for years, partly dismantled and with a seized engine could this be the hardest resurrection yet?!
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Thanks for watching everyone I'll get around to looking at the comments soon, I've really enjoyed the live chat premier tonight and I bloody love this big old rig. I'm starting part 2 tomorrow and it'll be out in a couple of weeks!
Really loved this one Ben , seems like a really great car 😆👍 you going to callher phantom 😂 looking fwd to the second part 😀 👍
Did you get a hangover, this morning, Ben?! 🤣
Brilliant again Ben that old tank brings back memories of our family doctor in the 60s doing house calls great work 👍
Hey bloke, I like your videos, car/cars, you and your humor. However I don't like your mockery over God's Name. neither will many others accept it who come on here who also like your videos yet place their trust in Him. How can you say that you pray for certain things to happen and not to happen showing everyone with hands in the air, when in the same breath you take His name like that ?-ie Jesus Christ!- I sincerely hope you really mean what you say when you mention His Name like that, and not falsely.
I'm aware already that you have received some knowledge about Him from some source or you wouldn't be saying what you say, why can't people say Lucifer/Satan /Devil like that?
So let me explain to you more clearly.
If you are not a Christian, then like the others you fall under the 10 Commandments. However if you do have some faith in God's words then I encourage you to go look into the OT Bible at the book of Exodus Chptr20 to gain more understanding of what God's laws are all about, they apply to all people in these last days and not just the Jews of that time.
So, I ask you (if you really love Him as I do) to kindly refrain from using the Lord's Name in vein, especially on here, I don't want you to be judged which could inevitably lead you to the perdition of your soul. If you listen to my advice then I encourage you to walk with dignity before Him, you will probably also get more staying on as subscribers tuning into your channels !
Please don't take this wrongly, be careful with your manners it's NO joke, and it's not just a saying, just don't make it an excuse. I encourage you to turn by repenting for the better so that you will be able to stand before Him on the Day of Judgement. It's not about religion, it's a FACT.
Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you
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OH for God's sake keep your delusions and your self-righteous attitude to yourself
Andrew Lynas you mentioned is or was my brother he died September 2022. He was a P4 nut and loved the cars so you wont be able to call him. He lived for his cars. I am his brother . Please note theses cars are positive earth. They should have a dynamo not an alternator. Maybe its been converted to negative earth as the battery is under the bonnet. It should be under the back seat. I think the reason there is no fan is that somebody fitted an aftermarket leccy fan. That's what all those wires,are.
Its been converted to negative earth - says so on the firewall and you can see the dynamo has been swapped for an alternator and the old voltage regulator which is no longer needed is in pieces. I did mine the same in 1982 but much neater. You can now get alternators which look like the original dynamo. Putting the battery at the front is the bodgers solution to poor starter performance and wants putting back under the seat.
Some of the early Ford Anglia's might have been a positive earth and indeed the mk 1 Cortina ...I saw an Anglia (sloping back kind) with a starter handle! I was born in 1973 but I remember seeing at least a couple of cars being started with handle.. I feel blessed to have driven and witnessed a lot of old school cars when they were not quite classic status but desirable and cheap..wow I guess we just took things for granted
What a Tasty little car. Love rovers of that period, that's when rover knew how to build a car❤
When Spen King was involved in the design team !!😉😉😉
I had an R reg rover 620 and that thing besides just being a dressed Honda accord was a star. In the decade I had it only a replacement battery was in order outside routine service. Argument could made battery was also routine except it left me taking the bus that time.
Those 'suicide doors' are as cool as F$%^
I know you like to be modest about your mechanical skills , but this episode was something else ,you did some really impressive work on such a complicated job , especially one which has been messed around with and isn't standard anymore , fabulous entertainment on that cool old motor , thankyou for taking it on and saving it .
Thanks Simon very greatful for you saying so, it was a proper head scratcher at time and we still haven't got to the good bits yet!
I drive a 59' P4 100 as my sole daily driver. Vintage looks, front disk brakes, 5 speed overdrive, full heater / blower, stately home interior. Engineering from another era, everything's hewn from a block of solid pig iron / brass using 8 bolts where 4 would normally do. 2 hour round trip at motorway speeds several times a week. Classic car's best kept secret - the Rover P4.
Also, (relatively) local P4 specialist to you, RoverEng at Stone (south Stoke-on-Trent) very helpful chap who's helped me out no end.
Do you watch the Alex’s Assets channel, she runs a P4 as a daily…
Your car has obviously been modified as they only had 4 speed gearboxes.
Good to hear you're using it as regular driver.
As soon that engine started, I recognised the noise a rover 6 cylinder engine made, when I was a nipper growing up. Awesome job mate. They are tough cars, built like your proverbial...!!
What a hero you are - preserving that beautiful piece of British heritage.
A thing of beauty for sure.
That bonnet badge is bloody lovely.
I'd love a p5b. So elegant.
To DD LOVETT. But these ones are actually called P Fours!
@@nygelmiller5293 Yep. I know the p4 well.
But the car of my dreams is the p5b coupe. Maybe one day I'll have enough pennies to get one.
@@DDLovettgood luck in saving for a P5!
My Dad bought a Rover P4 95 in 1968 and we still have it. I learnt to drive in it as a child ( offroad ) and it became mine in 1983 when I was 18. I have been driving the same car 50 years ! Watching this is absolutely fascinating. I would not have taken on a car that had been so badly bodged but I am delighted its been brought back to life. The handbrakes like to stick when not in use. The oil filter you can get at easily from above, you undo the bolt on top, it should never be stuck, its a paper element type, not a cartridge. Brakes a a pain to bleed, you need to prime the master cylinder to start. Battery has probably been relocated due poor starter performance, put it back before it melts. replacement starter motors are cheap of you can recon the one on it. There are 2 Rover P4 parts specialist who can get you any part you need plus club members usually have used parts like bumpers available. You might want to investigate a complete replacement interior new and second hand are available. I also fitted an expensive electronic ignition and had problems when hot. Problems got worse over 2 years until it would not run at all and I went back to points bought from Distributor Doc. 100 has theLaycock de Normanville overdrive. Make sure its switched off when reversing - should be prevented automatically in original installation but if its been bodged then the protection may not be there. If you reverse with OD on it is damaged.
Well done Ben, I love seeing you bring back these old cars from the brink. Looks really solid underneath too!
When I was a kid, the old man used to remove oil filters by hammering a large screwdriver through the filter and using that to turn it.
Refitting the new one was obviously not done in the same way, but I now use the same method as it's just easier, an old filter is bollocksed anyway.
I actually remember growing up around Rovers and Jags, when Dad drove a Jag mk 2 2.4, and Mum drove a Rover P5B.
My backside getting burnt on red hot leather seats after long hot summer days out to the beach, and the old man playing Pink Floyd on his 8 track.
Our shoes were fcked, and had no arse in my pants, but at least our parents had happy motoring, and some way of spending their cash bless em.
Fab thing to be working on though Ben, well done mate.
until a filter is siezed on and the screwdriver just rips through the metal then ur left with absolutely no way of getting the remainder of the filter off
Never happened in the last 30 years of me doing it, but hey maybe European oil filters are a bit tougher who kows@@andrewmcewan8081
@@andrewmcewan8081 A hammer and chisel on the base plate works every time.
@@a1c3c3u no it doesn't
Yeh I was talking in general about disposable filters, of course with vintage vehicles this is different. I have a couple of those still in original packaging@@human-xi1uo
Lovely to see an old Rover again, I worked on a quite a few in the day. I warn you the steering seems very light for a car of its weight. And that's because there's another turn or two lock to lock than any other car. So be prepared to wind it round a lot more than you think. 😄
The thing on the bulkhead with three coils on is a control box for a dynamo. As you have an alternator fitted the control box is redundant, but will need the wiring sorted. You've only uncovered half the rockers so far, the inlet. There's another 6 exhaust on the left hand side. The oil filter is released from the top by a single bolt through the centre, it's not a spin on type. There is a paper filter element on the inside.
Don't forget the coil needs to be earthed and the coil might be ballasted and need a resister. Also Acuspark ignition modules and the like, don't like solid copper HT leads and are designed to run on carbon leads only. The ignition timing should be set at idle with the vacuum advance disconnected and plugged. Otherwise the mechanical and vacuum advance will give you the wrong reading.
If I were you I'd clean the carb out. The old fuel usually varnishes the inside and I bet there's a load of crud and water in there too.
They have a habit of burning out exhaust valves and cracking the exhaust valve inserts. Many a time I was sent out to replace exhaust inserts and reface seats in situ on Land Rovers (same engine).So if you ever get low compression it might be that. I'm not sure they should run on unleaded.😁
Keep up your great work! Greetings from Berlin, Germany 🎉
Greetings! Love Deutschland ❤️
I'm enjoying watching this one. My grandparents had a Rover 90 when I was young. I'm now 64!!
Thanks for sharing, what a lovely old Rover.
Finally! Dear God, I was suffering from withdrawal!
I’m about an hour in and, apart from cringing when you were forcing it over on the starter, I’m having a ball on this one.
I envy your youth and exuberance, Ben. I simply couldn’t touch that, without bringing it indoors, shutting the doors and getting the heat on. If anything breaks during the cold season, nowadays, I’m managing without it until the spring.
Kneeling on gravel, with rain going down the back of my neck and flowing out my overall legs used to be normal practice, but my body won’t allow that any more.
When you walked around Auntie, with the fisheye lense, it looked like a chummy. While I like those and hope you do one, one day, I’m glad this was the big one.
I always liked the P4 and, even more so, the P5. They’re getting scarce now, so each one saved is a blessing.
I restored a Rover 100 years ago. An interesting project. A car that you will grow to love!
Loved this video Ben. I really enjoy the long resurrection videos. This is my favourite channel. Im already looking forward to part 2.
Wow what an epic journey, I couldn’t believe the transformation when you got the power washer on her, top job 👍😀
Ben, You shouldn't thank us for watching your fantastic videos. It's us that should thank you for being so informative in a very practical and down to earth manner. Good luck with that P4. It seemed strong enough on the jacking points but also good to see you using axel stands for added safety. I know how heavy those old Rover cars are!
Great video your skill and patience in getting these old girls back on the road is amazing
An Aunty Rover! How lovely. I do like 1950s car design with all it's rounded style. - VEATH looks like badly spelled shorthand for - VE Earth, negative earth. Just guessing. The 'starter solenoid' thing is the voltage regulator without it's cover. The car is fitted with an alternator which is probably a replacement for the original generator which would have used the voltage regulator. The alternator would either have an internal reg or a small solid state one so that lidless thing can probably be discarded. I did the same thing with my A60. Looking at the interior, I wonder if the person who did the blue upholstery had poor colour vision. This is going to be a good resurrection series. 👌
17:43. That was my first thought as well. The correction fluid writing on the firewall/bulkhead, refering to the wiring, which has been converted to negative earth.
Pure Nostalgia, thanks for posting. My dad ran a Rover 105S in the 1950's, Lovely car, wooden dash, leather seats and a valve powered radio. I think the 105 variant was the twin carb version basically. Overhead inlet, side exhaust valves. I remember 'borrowing' it, on the day I passed my test and going AWOL to visit my friends, not considering I probably wasn't covered for insurance purposes. But that was then. I managed to get home safe before anybody found out. More akin to piloting a boat, as I remember. 👍
Brilliant to see you back Ben. Great old car! I was excited as you were when it started up! 👍👍🇬🇧
Hi Ben , when I started in the seventies I worked at a rover garage, I remember some p4’s had a ‘freewheeling device on the gearbox , it was an economy thing . Great to see one running again.
This is like waiting for the birth of my first born again 😂, and yes I named him Rover 😉.
Great progress so far. I honestly can't believe how good the underside of the car! Just amazing. They always reminded of an Austin A30... but much bigger. You could always recognize them at a long distance, either catching one up or being caught up by one. They never seemed to be driven fast by their owners, they seemed to be happy just cruising alone the main roads. An era of British engineering at it's best 👍👍👍
I love those old Rovers. A friend of mine at school his grandfather had one in black and occasionally used to pick us up to school. I can still smell the leather interior, I bet an EV wont last this long!!
Best part of my working day is these videos, keep up the great work, and good humour
Awesome work Ben, another classic saved! Looking forward to part 2. Thanks for the 190 sticker, that was very kind of you.
Any time for you mate always enjoy reading your feedback 👍👍👍
Loving your videos Ben especially this one,thanks for what you do.Always admired the P4,the smell of leather and wood fantastic who knows might buy one one day.😊 keep up the good work my friend.
Thanks
Thank you Colin incredibly kind of you!
Good thing that there is a second part, I'm really enjoying seeing this little car run again!
❤ wow SO inspirational... as I said else where, thats two siezed engines you have freed up! Increadable stuff, so joyfully.. loved every second and by god its so tidy underneath, puts the mondeuo to shame.... can't wait for part 2 but will be WELL WORTH IT!!!!
I just felt every moment of elation and disappointment...brilliant watching...so glad found your channel...👌👍
Fixing old cars like that which have been abandoned half way through "upgrading", is a slow war of attrition with hopefully more steps eventually forward than backwards... You have more patience and "stick-at-it-ability" than me!
I really liked your way to do the presentation. Down to earth and the joy of getting the engine working was for real.
What a great little car, I love the gorgeous curves on these old cars. Great work, looking forward to seeing it progress.
I like the way you completed the job from start to finish in one video, excellent. So many TH-camrs promise a will it run video and don't turn up to the vehicle with any tools - very frustrating. Look forward to the next Rover video.
Brilliant !!! cannot believe how good the underneath is. Yet another Tasty Classic !!!
Best one yet Ben. These old P4s are well loved , kudos for tackling that botched wiring ! ..
Loved that episode Ben, having learned to drive in the 70's these were the era cars we could afford. Worked on them every Sunday, so you could go to work on Monday. Just got my sticker thanks, love being a patreon.
Hi Ben first time seeing your vids -well done and thanks - my old Dad had a p4 100 in the day two tone green must be 60 years ago as I’m just 69! The only car he owned I really loved reg GJK 221 don’t know why never forgot the reg from all thoughts years back - thank you for making me smile and bringing back such good memories -keep up the good work and stay safe Malc uk 🇬🇧 😊
We too had a 1961 two-tone green R100 in the late 1960s. Beautiful car and a joy to drive. We drove it non-stop to Yugoslavia in 1969. Steady 90 t0 95 on the autobahns. Very happy memories. Love the gearbox growl in first gear. I seem to remember the battery was in the boot?
Mother of god that was amazing! Can’t wait for the next part. Well done Ben.
American here. We don't have "Start Ya Bastard" in the US. We generally call it starting fluid or go-go juice.
Americans can't pronounce or spell carburettor, either.
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Love your modesty, love the car and thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Thank you for the huge effort in filming/editing and sharing. subbed.
Very kind of you to say thank you!
Absolutely loved this long video. Can’t wait for part 2. 👍🏻
'For there is none of you so mean and base that hath not noble lustre in yor eyes'........
I love that 😅 I don't know what I means but I like it
Just finished the epic, youve done brilliant to get that engine going ben, i thought at first it wouldnt move but well done. Looks a good solid car. Just needs decent paint really.
Looking forwards to the next one. Thankyou.
Loved watching from start to finish, a real great find and made to run well. Hoping to see your next video of the future endeavours with this piece of automotive history. 👍👍
Found this vid of the Rover 100,accidentally, and loved the resurrection! I usually watch revival videos of VICE GRIP GARAGE, and JUNKYARD DIGS, here in US, but,I will follow yours, now, too!! As for 'Starting Bastard' in America, I have never heard about that used, but Starting Fluid, ether, I have. This Rover is what a sedan should be: flowing lines, chrome, easy to work on. I absolutely LOVE seeing/earth by your efforts! Chuffed to see the 2nd part! Best to you, Viking (man and car!).
That emblem of the Viking warrior on the front is bad ass! Love it
You've just gotta love all the Jewelry on those early and pre-war cars, when the Motifs were carefully made, and many were chromium and enamel. Today, all shiny plastic, devoid of any future "Classic" status. Such are today's modern cars.
It's nice to see you back i like watching your video's and the cars are all so different and your editing skills are brillant
Great stuff again, Ben. What an amazing effort, in such a short space of time. Can't wait to see the next episode 👍
Brilliant content love these longer ones❤
Brilliant car enjoyed every minute of this .
Just watched this the whole way through.
Thank you so much, what fantastic entertainment, genuinely loved watching.
Very kind mate!
Great 1st video of 2024.
What a fab find & running so sweet.
Looking forward to part 2. 👍
Absolutely brilliant.. One of your most entertaining yet.. !!
Fantastic.. Patience perseverance and skill shows what can be done. This is quite some motivational film!
I can remember the old Rover was seen as a "doctor's car" for the respectable middle classes. In fact our GP had one back in the early mid sixties!
It is NOT annoying the starting handle can’t go backwards, else it would break your arms when the engine starts. Great video, thanks 👍🏻
And, even with the ramped disengage mechanism, it was not unusual to see car owners with a broken thumb or sprained wrist in the 1960's ....... including me!
Richard
@richardsutton01 Agreed...managed to avoid it myself, but my uncle ended up with his arm in a sling for a while for the same reason. No fun on a particularly cold day. Starting almost became an art form!
Watching you on TV now had an old friend who passed away few years ago. He used to by old classic cars like yourself & do them up love your TH-cam show hope my comment helps attract you more business through quiet times for more work
Absolutely great video your enthusiasm and skills are un matched😅😅
Really enjoyed this one what a great old car and that engine built like a tank those old rovers
Brilliant work Ben great job can't wait for part 2
It wants to live! Great job on resurrecting it so far, love a straight 6 :)
Great to see this old Rover recovery, my first car was a Rover 90 very similar...👌
Absolute belter of an episode. Great work on the electrics and getting that engine running. Can’t wait to see it with all its bit on, looking kinda naked at the moment.
I'm excited to get stuck in
You do remember, the only thing the Brits ever made that didn't suck was a vacuum cleaner!
The best Friday entertainment possible! Thanks Ben
Happy new year Ben! 🎉, the rover looks like it’s been looked after by the previous owners!. Can you imagine in 62 years time doing this to a car of today!. You sir are the resurrector! 🤘
Brilliant work, I thought you had bitten off more than you can chew here! Maximum respect. Balls of steel!!
I have a black 1957 P4 105 2.6 straight 6, sounds awesome when you rev it up. Good luck on the restoration
brilliant long video. I love your determination to fix it.
Great vlog mate definitely worth saving the p4 enjoying the journey looking forward to seeing your next update 👍
Great work, I love those cars. Look forward to the next episode.
Good Afternoon Ben. WoW!!!!!!! She looks absolutely Breath Takingly Gorgeous and I was very Proud of You that You were so Determined and You Stuck at it, to get the most Stubbinest of Engines Un-Seezed. You did it Ben. Well Done. You have brought back to Life, this very Beautiful and rare 1962 Rover P4 100 with a 2.6 Litre Engine. She sounds absolutely Fabulous. When you gave her a Thorough Wash and Clean, her paint work just Shone so Brightly. Not long to go now Ben, to finish tidying her up, new bumpers, grille, new dashboard and new Instruments/ Dials. A really Good Vacuumn and Clean of her Interior. She look and feel like a Brand new English Classic Beauty again. I really Can not wait to see Your next video with this Gorgeous vehicle Ben. Very Well Done You and Achieving such an Incredible long process of Excellent Revival and Restoration. This what your Channel Tasty Classics is all about. Thank you very much Ben, for sharing such a Great video that i Thoroughly Enjoyed every second of your Restoration. Big Respect to You my Friend. Jonathan.☺☺☺☺💯💯💯👍👍👍
This brings back memories!.... Had a Rover 90 fitted with a Rover 100 engine. 2638cc's of beautiful power. 22 mpg, not the best vehicle to own during the oil crisis of the early 70's. 11 gallons each way to travel home on the weekends from Slough to South Wales, but it was pure luxury! Oh, watch out for the pillars between the doors rusting at the bottom.
Love the video so far. You're motivating me to get my '55 Chevy back on the road.
We call it "starting fluid" here in the USA!
Only just found your channel ben.. absolutely brilliant.. great work.
You couldn't make it up! There I was wondering what Ben's been up to and lo and behold there's a new video. This is for me the best ever car you have featured as in the 60s when I was a young lad my Dad had two P4s - a rather grotty 90 then a mint 1964 110. I can smell the sun baked comics on the parcel shelf and wonder at the lack of engine noise. That's the happy memories you bring back. The 110 had twin SUs and the cylinder head was tweaked by none other than Harry Westlake who went on to build an F1 engine amongst his establishing self as a cylinder head guru. Look under the glove box and if you are very lucky the factory tool kit might be in its slot. All spanners to work on the car and even as I recall a small grease gun should be in there . Looking forward to the next episode and it's a fitting car for someone who likes to dress like a viking! Yes I saw the sneak photo.
the 110 had a single 2 in su carb, the man was harry weslake
Hi Ben my name is Frank the car is a proper clasic it has been messed about with but i have no doubt that you will give it your all as a clasic car like this deserves keep up the good work mate
Great video... Amazing effort as well a character dude... Love it!!! I have my p4 1957 parked years.. Get really interested in put my hands on it after your cracking episode... Bless u mate
Pablo De Oliveira
Best channel on TH-cam. Fantastic video, well done Ben. 👍
Amazing video Ben love the car can't wait until the next one..keep up the good work.
Sitting here eating my breakfast.....and then.....
"It smells like my gusset after a heavy night's dancing".
Thank you so much Ben.
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You and that car are made for each other. It's like a perfect match. like when dog owners that have dogs that look and act the same. you will look perfectly matched , driving around in it.
Super video....... proper engineering...... what an engine..... and car!!!
Love it well done - Melbourne Australia
Fantastic Ben loved every minute of it, looking forwards to seeing the trip to Solihull 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Absolute a great video !!! Love the car and yes it was looking you bought a Lemon, but it turn for the best !!!! You are the best on the Internet !!!!
Absolutely wonderful video!! Love you channel! Glad i found you around 10k because your gonna get big here soon!
Honestly felt the joy when it turned and especially when it started! Keep up the querkenauirky finds 💯
ive really enjoyed this one just as mutch as the others you make the processes fun to watch also the calamitys that go along with old cars big up to you and j c 😜
Brillant Video Ben!
That starter is the MVP!
Great work Ben! Can't wait for the next one!! 👍👍👏👏
Loving this. I’m addicted keep up the good work
26,000 subscribers 🎉🎉 well done. Would love to see you double up, you certainly deserve it.
Excellent as usual Ben looking forward to the next episode
Just beautiful mate carry on with good work love it