This Is How Losers Lose | Part 8 | The History of the St Kilda Football Club
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- St Kilda had come off three failed AFL Grand Finals, but still had Riewoldt, Hayes, Dal Santo, Montagna, Goddard and Ross Lyon. Things still looked good - until a 17 year-old girl tore them apart. What followed were a dozen years of scandal, ineptitude and lots and lots of losing. In essence, the Saints had remembered who they'd been for over a hundred years, falling bum over head until landing in the exact same place they ended 2007 in. This ain't a pretty story, but it's the one we got.
In this series, the Gaz-man celebrates St Kilda's 150th birthday by delving deep into the fascinating history and insane stories of the Saints. In this video, we explore how St Kilda fell from grace, turning from everyone's second-favourite team into a complete laughingstock, again.
Sorry, Saints fans. Again.
Music credit - (38:02) Without Me (2001, Shady, Aftermath, Interscope) - Marshall Mathers, Jeffrey Bass, Kevin Bell, Anne Dudley, Malcolm McLaren, Trevor Horn.
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All original music (with the obvious exception of the Without Me cover) generated by me, using BandLab
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What's your favourite Saints moment, or is there a moment or player I missed? Let me know, and thanks again for the support on this series!
Nice series!
My favourite had to be Brian Walsh's own goal! Also with lights out at Waverley, Sirengate and a drawn grand final, seems like all the most random occurences have happened to that club
I love your storytelling ability so much. The way this series has invoked emotions about a club I first thought I wouldn't really give a shit about is amazing, I hope you do more deep dives on old VFL sides.
Keep doing what you're doing man. 👍
Thank you so much! The next big series is a full-on history of the VFL and VFA rivalry, looking forward to getting started on that
@@thegaz-man can't wait.
Still think it’s remarkable how you don’t yet have 1000 subscribers, let alone the 10s of thousands you deserve. Keep up this terrific content and I’m sure you’ll soon get there. As for a future club series, I think the Bulldogs would be worthy. There’s plenty of mediocrity with the odd shard of gold that shines through.
Being from the UK there's not exactly much in the way of coverage of this particular sport, which seems a shame. Watching this series helped me get a grip not only on the well trodden story of a sports club that lives in hell, but also the sport and some of its history in general- I can only thank you for this.
Thanks, that means a lot!
If you're interested in the full history of the sport, my current History of the AFL series spans from the code's founding to the modern day.
Home sick over the weekend I discovered your channel and this series and it’s sensational! Well done and I’m bingeing your whole channel!
Thanks so much, and hope you healed up quick!
Mate I don't usually comment on youtube videos, but felt the need to tell you how much I enjoyed this series. Please keep up the great work. I'm far from a saints fan but have found myself binge watching this whole thing in just a few days. On to Adelaide next and can't wait to see what you put out in the future. Cheers legend
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed the series! Hoping to get a lot of content out before year's end so be sure to stick around!
Me too.
Recently on TikTok I found a video talking about 'What your AFL club says about you' and for St Kilda it was an abrupt 'your life is pain and misery' and I really felt that watching this series. Great work, looking forward to whatever comes next
Thanks! Honestly, despite how much it would fundamentally shift what the Saints are defined as, I hope they win a flag soon.
The fans need a reward for their loyalty.
Incredible Ross Lyon song
Haha cheers, I originally did the whole song but I decided I liked my audience too much to subject them to all of it 🤣🤣
@@thegaz-man easily on par with the rolling in the deep parody of Ross and Mark Harvey when the Freo fiasco went down.
However great content mate. As a 22yo Saints supporter with parents who went week in week out during our largely putrid 80’s, its nice to be able to talk to them and connect with that part of them a little more. I could see my dad’s eyes light up when I asked him about how plugger basically threw the game against Geelong. I know now not to mention Billy B ever again!
freo's resting plan against the saints almost backfired since geelong only won by a point against brisbane
The Hall of Jacks just can’t be unseen 😂😂
I just had to include it, has to be the weirdest recruiting wave of the decade
As a st kilda fan I know a genie has cast a spell on me that I can't die until the saints win a a premiership. I'm in no rush
Might have found the key to immortality right there 😅
Burst out laughing when you started talking about Scoops. Hes an interesting fella to say the least
He sure is a character haha
They most likely picked Seaford as it was Robert Harvey's hometown
Never thought of that myself but it makes sense!
U could have mentioned George Young, in the mid-70s he brought some hope to Saints fans, and consistently kicked 5 or 6 goals on Geoff Southby - shoulda been a legend - only he was injured a lot (fits in with your theme). Gr8 shoot out at Moorabbin against Pies, Young kicked 9 but fabulous Phil Carman (in white boots - waz he the 1st?) kicked 11
Just looked him up now, wish I'd seen his story earlier
Could have grouper him in with Simon O'Donnell and Keith Miller as Saints who've played Shield cricket or higher
Absolutely enjoyed every bizzare moment of this series!
Thanks so much! Yeah, bizarre really is the word when it comes to the Saints, it was so much fun to research the weird and wonderful stories they've produced
Great series. Steven King didn't play NFL though it was Ben Graham just FYI 😅
Thanks! Yeah, I keep mixing them up and I have no idea why haha
i am constantly asked why i continue to support such a failure of a club and this is the perfect explanation as to why
Well done, mate. Great from start to finish.
Thanks! Ngl this was a long time in the making, I did the filming at Moorabbin last November!
Really fun to make though.
the most brilliant series on youtube comes to an end.
Ahhh cheers mate but KSI's Race To Division 1 series ended a decade ago 😛
My interest in St Kilda is pretty low, almost zero in fact. But I’m commenting because your videos deserve more attention. They are done really well
Thanks! The amount of growth we've had already this year has been amazing, hoping to keep that up!
Just go for the saints
Even tho I go for the pies. This is quality. Good job man
Thanks, and congrats on the flag! What a way to win it as well, must feel great!
This was such an awesome series, enjoyed every minute of it!
A couple of ideas for clubs to analyse:
South Melbourne/Sydney Swans (my team that took longer to win a VFL/AFL premiership than St Kilda)
South Adelaide (only won 1 SANFL premiership in the last 85 years in a competition consisting of 8-10 teams)
Thanks so much!
I've got a couple of things that touch on the Swans history planned, and if I were to do another long-form series they'd probably be the team I'd pick.
South Adelaide is a great shout, as well! Even as an SA boy I always kinda forget they exist. Would be interesting to explore their malaise.
8 episodes of despair and heartbreak perfectly built into your Eminem cover. Did not see that coming, much like Ross Lyon
Was originally going to be three verses too so you guys got spared 😅😅
Didn't get to include my favourite line I wrote - "I'll drop you like it's Round 23"
I agree with you about Lyon going to the Dockers. It's one thing to be loyal it's another to let the club try to take advantage of that and not offer him a fair deal and making him wait.
Wish I had more time to get into it - lots of nuance in there. I just feel for Mark Harvey in all of that.
Not so much as a request, more of an idea I’m putting out there, but have you considered doing a “history of” series for any rivalries? Perhaps a documentation of the never-ending war that is the Carlton vs Collingwood rivalry?
Either way, I would like to say that your videos are well put together, fun to watch, and just generally cool. Keep it up, it’s awesome. :)
Thanks! That's a fantastic idea, haven't really thought about doing anything on rivalries but it sounds fun to explore!
Hey Gaz, your storytelling is so great, honestly never heard someone make AFL history sound so engaging. But do you have a patreon or something? because we've got to get you a better mic.
But like, the videos are great on presentation in every other regard, after watching these they end up feeling like a 10+ documentary on the history of an obscure micronation
Thanks mate! I haven't got a Patreon yet, mainly bc I don't think I can provide enough value for money atm, hopefully sometime next year though!
Sound's been my main issue - I think the mic is ok but my setup is awful, I'm recording mainly in my new tiny, echoey apartment (hence the drop in quality as soon as I start the 2023 bit). Hoping once I find a new place, I will have a better recording space.
I heard that they even lost the dwarf-tossing contests too.
🤣🤣
1:02:40 thanks for the shoutout bro!
OMG love your work mate, that Coops vid was brilliant.
All the best for your lads tomorrow!
@@thegaz-man thanks bro love your stuff
Had they moved to the MCG in 2000 instead Marvel Stadium and had they not sacked Malcolm Blight in 2001 they would of had a few premierships by now. Moorabbin to Waverley was a bad move as with Waverley to Marvel Stadium but it’s always been short term financial gain in lieu of long term football success.
Sadly not every team can play at the MCG and I feel that even if the Saints had asked to go there, they may have been turned down.
I can see what you mean with the Waverley move - it did save the club but they had to sacrifice an amazing home atmosphere to do it - imagine that 1997 side playing at Moorabbin, the crowd would have been amazing!
As someone who lives in cairns, that game was awful haha. Should’ve played later in the year
Didn't look like anyone was having fun out there, pretty sure the humidity was about 500% 🤣
Following this mob is like bashing your head against a brick wall. It feels great when you stop.
This offseason must feel pretty promising though!
If I recall one of Koschitzke's shots in his final game was initially awarded a goal but then was disallowed for hitting the post.
Can't believe you mention famous St.Kilda fans and don't bring up Molly Meldrum. Guys the OG St.Kilda diehard.
Also, of all the post-2000 players I'd give a premiership to if I could re-write history, Nick Riewoldt is up there with Nathan Buckley (because pies fan) on my list.
Otherwise, well researched documentary. If St.Kilda were an American team, would you say they are Atlanta Falcons or Detroit Lions?
Honestly I forgot about Molly and I can't believe I did!
Even as a guy who dislikes the Pies, I can't deny that Bucks deserved a flag as a player. One of the great clubmen.
Jon Bois actually released his Atlanta series after I began development on this series, and I was staggered by the similarities. I'd almost say the Saints are more like the Vikings than anyone else, but the Lions and Falcons are pretty similar
I thought Vikings were too 'winning' to exactly be St.Kilda. Sure, St.Kilda have more silverware (by default) but the Vikings have a much better winning record. I would've figured Rose/Hafey era Magpies was close to the 70s Vikings for how often they fell in the big games despite the talents that existed (Tuddenham, Thompson, Carman, Peter More, Richardson bros, McKenna, etc.).@@thegaz-man
Also, considering yesterday's result, how you feel about Frampton having a premiership medal? After seeing your video about his goalkicking, I never thought he'd play for Collingwood, let alone in a premiership with us. I didn't even think we would win that game.
Yeah, on reflection, the Vikings and Pies are a closer match (how did they not win a flag in the 70s?!), the Falcons make a lot more sense as a comparison.
As for Frampton, umm yeah that's a shock! He did it in the only way he could, though - by being the least effective forward humanly imaginable. Fair play to him, though.
Is there another football club with a worse record than the Saints ?😅
Amazingly, a few!
Gold Coast, University and the Brisbane Bears all have worse win rates, and Fremantle and GWS have had worse records since 1986
Actually kind of amazing, considering everything!
@@thegaz-man 1986 compared to over a century for the Saints, you are too kind. Lol.
After spending a year on this series, I just wanna see them happy haha
D:
Been a rough few years, still love the characters the Sainters have produced though
@@thegaz-man yeah
This poor record will never be surpassed even Freo GWS GCS will pass them seriously the AFL needs to banish them to the SAFL and earn being able to reenter the AFL you can't polish a turd folks.
Ehh, a lot of that losing record was due to the league being fundamentally unequal. Since the draft was introduced, St Kilda has a 46% win rate, more than Freo and well above the Gold Coast.
They're in a good place now, just not a great one.