Have an MG-30 and GP-100. Looking at getting a GP-200. I thought I heard pitch shift latency on the GP-200 vs th MG-30. Appreciate all your videos Daniel. Subscribed. Best Regards/Best Wishes!
Thanks a lot! Maybe, but the latency feels ok for me. But Tbh, the sound quality of the pitch shifting is not that convincing in all of these cheaper units. Guess it needs mor processing power for better results.
Totally agree with your opinion. GP200 lacks the effects sound quality & MG30 effects quality is as good as the Line6. But I pick GP200 due to live situation. I'm doing live gig and studio jamming so I need all the footswitches that the GP200 has and the XLR output to run to the PA system direct. Both models got awesome amps sound quality pairing with 3rd party IRs. I'm using ML Sound Lab IRs and it sounds awesome. So it's up to the end-user to decide on what they want. But I keep my finger crossed the GP200 can improve the effects quality with a firmware update. If Valeton can do that then GP200 is a clear winner.
Totally agree with you about the GP 200. I purchased it over others mainly for its realistic sounding amp sims especially paired with 3rd party IR's and footswitches and XLR outs, that being said the mediocre effects are a let down now and I've been promised by the Valeton team that more stereo effects will be added in the upcoming updates, considering that they've already rolled out the first ever firmware and software update which has significant upgrades, I really hope they'll improve the effects.
@@CamiloLlanosL with the first update they've rolled out, they've added few drive pedals, a Pan feature, 4 in 4 out for usb recording and better footswitch lighting. When I've mailed the company stating that effects has to be improved as it sounds very mono and one dimensional. They've replied better and improved stereo effects will be added in upcoming updates.
@@seashorerumble1380 yeah the second update has been rolled out many months ago and they sound much better than before. They've added some new reverbs and delays which sound good
Why nobody commented on horrible high pitched sizzle in the audio? Is everybody listening to sound tests on the phone speakers? The noise disappears at 3/4 time
Thanks for this comparison, I have a MG30 in the post, but I had doubts that maybe I should have saved the extra & got the newer GP200 But honestly, I am generally a studio artist that doesn't need as many bells and whistles as the GP200 offers I have a ton of great software emulations, so I just needed a good quality outboard sound, that has a decent built in sound card & is reamp capable Being a studio player, the quality of the effects is massively important to me For me... A 1% sound improvement matters... Because I am always looking for another 1% If I find that 1% in this pedal Then 1% better listening skills With a 1% better mixing skill And a 1% better mastering skill On and on and on.... Before I know it my sound is 10% better lol Yes I know it's subjective... But I am purely talking about my own perception of the sound I am looking for better, for me... The more I like something the better it should translate to others imo Started my studio journey in 2002, and although I've had many breaks from it over the years... I always end up back in the studio eventually I've never taken it to seriously, never pushed to make an income But I think it's about time I did try to make a little money, not necessarily a full time wage, but just a little top up on my full time job Anyway... This comparison has really confirmed that I have made the right choice on this So thanks again mate
You're welcome!The MG30 is really avgreat sounding unit.I got also great results trying to dial in a tone like the Petrucci archetype by Neural Dsp with the MG30.Please check out my video about that!
🙏👍👍you have the best sound of all the multi effects pedals you play be it MG-30, GP-200, FM-9 and other ones, no body else on TH-cam has it.🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘. Please if you do not mind sharing your setup or routing the signals or if you have already done the video about this, i appreciate it. A million thanks to you sir👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Wow, thanks a lot! I'm planning on a video about my recording setup. But it#S basically direct recording via USB with these units. Also I'm selling high gain preset packs for each of these units. If you are interested, plese conact me on Facebook! Cheers! 😁😄😉👃🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I concur with your comment that Daniel just knows good tone, and always push his terrific preset packs in forum. It really helps people enjoy all these units they buy. 👍
Hi Gennaro, I'd say the quality is comparable. Especially in a live situation I'd prefer the Valeton over the MG30 because of it's flexibility. PLease consider getting my preset packs for the Valeton (or NUX). they work great in a live situation. Cheers 😆
@Daniel Krämer greetings! I would be buying a multi-effect for the first time. So can you still give a review which one would you prefer me to buy among these two? Also I'm open for suggestions from any professional or user of these models. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your question! I'd say, it depends on what you need... the GP200 is way more flexible in a live situation, as it comes with 8 programmable footswitches. It also has Midi i/O and it is easy to use (e.g. getting good tones is easy without much tweaking). The Pros of the NUX are, that the effects sound much better and it comes with the scenes feature. But it's a unit, that needs much tweaking, until you get good results. Probably the hardest one. My personal first recommendation would be the Hotone ampero 2 stage. That unit has great tones, almost like the high end modeling units (QC or Fractal). Another unit that is really powerful and flexibel in a live situation is the Mooer GE300. But with all of these units, you'll get the best tones if you'll get my preset packs, that's for sure ;-) Cheers!
@@DanielKraemerMusic Thanks a lot Sir! It means a lot lot to me. Indeed your suggestion is very helpful. Also I'm one of your subscriber. Have a good day. ☺️❤️
Thanks for the detailed video. I am confused between the two - the MG30 is much cheaper, but clearly, GP200 offers better options for live situations. I have three questions regarding the MG30: [1] Is it possible to change amps in S2 and S3, so these are significantly different than the S1 patch? [2] Is it possible to assign NMP-2 with A and B to bank up and down and the footswitches on the pedal from left to right assigned to change patches, ie, 1A (single press), 1B (single press), 1C (single press), and 1D (double press control switch). So when I press B, then 2A, 2B, 2C, and 2D are available, and so on. This would be much better for a live situation. [3] Is the assignment of the four controls per patch or global?
Thanks for your questions! I've briefly checked the NUX, so 1) No, only one amp can be used within one preset 2)I don't think that is possible. The two left switches seem to be fixed to up/down. The other switches can only be assigned to different EFX or scenes 3) No, you can assign the switches in each preset. So for live usage, the GP200 is way more flexibel. Also it's easier to get good sounds with the GP200...
@@DanielKraemerMusic Many thanks for your helpful comments. It is now established that GP200 is better for live use. However, since you have used both, is one better than the other with regard to tones. I mainly play the blues and classic rock, and once in a blue moon like chuging with some early, heavy metal sounds (eg, Black Sabbath, Metallica, etc).
Hi Daniel, I'm a bit in trouble, could you give me your opinion on these 2 machines? that is the best in your opinion? I know you made a comparison video but I don't know English if you would give me a summary and give me your opinion thanks
If I would have to chose between the Valeton GP-200 and the NUX MG30, I'd get the GP200, but just because it's more flexible for live usage (more footswitches, MIDI I/O,...). The overall sound quality is similar in both units (with the newest FW in the Valeton GP200). At least to my ears, the both sound great.Hope that helps! Cheers! 😁🤗
I’ve owned an MG30 an tried it for a month before I sent it back. To try the mooer ge300 witch I thought I like but found out the they weren’t supporting that unit and it was having some OS issues so returned that landed in the Valeton gp200 and that I’m keeping even though it’s not as easy to program the foot switches map midi. I’m keeping it because the best feature is the OTG capability that allows me to access THU Overloud & Nembrino sounds from the iPad that the combination blows away any modeler out there! Especially if you get the Nembrino doubler and go out to 2 frfr it’s almost to big I have to dial it back a little! 😂 You can also record to garage band! I use it live in a couple of days and will comment back here. Afterwards
Tbh, I can't recoomend these cheap modeling units harmonising effects. To me they're all lacking quality...and the GP200 doesn't have the intelligent pitch shifter, if I remember correctly. 🤔
Got it.... well, here in brazil, everything is pretty expansive. Eg to buy a helix lt a avarage work should spend something around 8 months of full salary.
@@maxsuellima7488 Yes, that's a shame.Musical equipment should be affordable for anyone imho.I have to check out, which one of these cheaper units has the best harmonising effects...🤔😉🤘
You can play directly to the PA, yes. That works great. You could also use it just as a preamp w/ effects, playing into a poweramp and a conventional cab. Or of course in 4 cable method with an amp. The thing is very flexible!
Just put better effects like delay's and reverb's in the Valeton GP-200 effects loop,i know it will cost more that way but many of us already have good effects pedals to put in the send,return loop of units like these modelers.
That's hard to decide. If you're lokking for the best amp and fx tones, I'd say the NUX. But if you need more flexibility (e.g. live usage, midi), I'd go with the Valeton. Cheers!
Have an MG-30 and GP-100. Looking at getting a GP-200. I thought I heard pitch shift latency on the GP-200 vs th MG-30. Appreciate all your videos Daniel. Subscribed. Best Regards/Best Wishes!
Thanks a lot! Maybe, but the latency feels ok for me. But Tbh, the sound quality of the pitch shifting is not that convincing in all of these cheaper units. Guess it needs mor processing power for better results.
Totally agree with your opinion. GP200 lacks the effects sound quality & MG30 effects quality is as good as the Line6. But I pick GP200 due to live situation. I'm doing live gig and studio jamming so I need all the footswitches that the GP200 has and the XLR output to run to the PA system direct. Both models got awesome amps sound quality pairing with 3rd party IRs. I'm using ML Sound Lab IRs and it sounds awesome. So it's up to the end-user to decide on what they want. But I keep my finger crossed the GP200 can improve the effects quality with a firmware update. If Valeton can do that then GP200 is a clear winner.
Totally agree with you about the GP 200. I purchased it over others mainly for its realistic sounding amp sims especially paired with 3rd party IR's and footswitches and XLR outs, that being said the mediocre effects are a let down now and I've been promised by the Valeton team that more stereo effects will be added in the upcoming updates, considering that they've already rolled out the first ever firmware and software update which has significant upgrades, I really hope they'll improve the effects.
@@SujeetGT HI man, upgrades have improved the effects?
@@CamiloLlanosL with the first update they've rolled out, they've added few drive pedals, a Pan feature, 4 in 4 out for usb recording and better footswitch lighting. When I've mailed the company stating that effects has to be improved as it sounds very mono and one dimensional. They've replied better and improved stereo effects will be added in upcoming updates.
@@SujeetGT hi, can I ask you for an update? Did those updates roll out?
@@seashorerumble1380 yeah the second update has been rolled out many months ago and they sound much better than before. They've added some new reverbs and delays which sound good
Why nobody commented on horrible high pitched sizzle in the audio? Is everybody listening to sound tests on the phone speakers? The noise disappears at 3/4 time
Thanks for this comparison,
I have a MG30 in the post, but I had doubts that maybe I should have saved the extra & got the newer GP200
But honestly, I am generally a studio artist that doesn't need as many bells and whistles as the GP200 offers
I have a ton of great software emulations, so I just needed a good quality outboard sound, that has a decent built in sound card & is reamp capable
Being a studio player, the quality of the effects is massively important to me
For me...
A 1% sound improvement matters...
Because I am always looking for another 1%
If I find that 1% in this pedal
Then 1% better listening skills
With a 1% better mixing skill
And a 1% better mastering skill
On and on and on....
Before I know it my sound is 10% better lol
Yes I know it's subjective...
But I am purely talking about my own perception of the sound
I am looking for better, for me...
The more I like something the better it should translate to others imo
Started my studio journey in 2002, and although I've had many breaks from it over the years...
I always end up back in the studio eventually
I've never taken it to seriously, never pushed to make an income
But I think it's about time I did try to make a little money, not necessarily a full time wage, but just a little top up on my full time job
Anyway...
This comparison has really confirmed that I have made the right choice on this
So thanks again mate
You're welcome!The MG30 is really avgreat sounding unit.I got also great results trying to dial in a tone like the Petrucci archetype by Neural Dsp with the MG30.Please check out my video about that!
The MG30 has higher quality converters so it records at a higher bit rate, for studio use, you made the right choice.
🙏👍👍you have the best sound of all the multi effects pedals you play be it MG-30, GP-200, FM-9 and other ones, no body else on TH-cam has it.🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘. Please if you do not mind sharing your setup or routing the signals or if you have already done the video about this, i appreciate it. A million thanks to you sir👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Wow, thanks a lot! I'm planning on a video about my recording setup. But it#S basically direct recording via USB with these units. Also I'm selling high gain preset packs for each of these units. If you are interested, plese conact me on Facebook! Cheers! 😁😄😉👃🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I concur with your comment that Daniel just knows good tone, and always push his terrific preset packs in forum. It really helps people enjoy all these units they buy. 👍
Hi Daniel,
I have the MG30 but would like to get the Valeton for live use. With the latest update the quality is comparable to nux ? Thank you
Hi Gennaro, I'd say the quality is comparable. Especially in a live situation I'd prefer the Valeton over the MG30 because of it's flexibility. PLease consider getting my preset packs for the Valeton (or NUX). they work great in a live situation. Cheers 😆
@Daniel Krämer greetings! I would be buying a multi-effect for the first time. So can you still give a review which one would you prefer me to buy among these two?
Also I'm open for suggestions from any professional or user of these models. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your question! I'd say, it depends on what you need... the GP200 is way more flexible in a live situation, as it comes with 8 programmable footswitches. It also has Midi i/O and it is easy to use (e.g. getting good tones is easy without much tweaking). The Pros of the NUX are, that the effects sound much better and it comes with the scenes feature. But it's a unit, that needs much tweaking, until you get good results. Probably the hardest one. My personal first recommendation would be the Hotone ampero 2 stage. That unit has great tones, almost like the high end modeling units (QC or Fractal). Another unit that is really powerful and flexibel in a live situation is the Mooer GE300. But with all of these units, you'll get the best tones if you'll get my preset packs, that's for sure ;-) Cheers!
@@DanielKraemerMusic Thanks a lot Sir! It means a lot lot to me. Indeed your suggestion is very helpful. Also I'm one of your subscriber. Have a good day. ☺️❤️
Thanks for the detailed video. I am confused between the two - the MG30 is much cheaper, but clearly, GP200 offers better options for live situations. I have three questions regarding the MG30: [1] Is it possible to change amps in S2 and S3, so these are significantly different than the S1 patch? [2] Is it possible to assign NMP-2 with A and B to bank up and down and the footswitches on the pedal from left to right assigned to change patches, ie, 1A (single press), 1B (single press), 1C (single press), and 1D (double press control switch). So when I press B, then 2A, 2B, 2C, and 2D are available, and so on. This would be much better for a live situation. [3] Is the assignment of the four controls per patch or global?
Thanks for your questions! I've briefly checked the NUX, so 1) No, only one amp can be used within one preset 2)I don't think that is possible. The two left switches seem to be fixed to up/down. The other switches can only be assigned to different EFX or scenes 3) No, you can assign the switches in each preset. So for live usage, the GP200 is way more flexibel. Also it's easier to get good sounds with the GP200...
@@DanielKraemerMusic Many thanks for your helpful comments. It is now established that GP200 is better for live use. However, since you have used both, is one better than the other with regard to tones. I mainly play the blues and classic rock, and once in a blue moon like chuging with some early, heavy metal sounds (eg, Black Sabbath, Metallica, etc).
Good video - thank you
MG 30 sounds more realistic. Valeton had a latency issue which i hate the most in using live
Is it possible to add single stomp boxes units (eg delay & Reverb) to the Valetone gp 200.. and will that improve the quality of tones..?
It has an effects loop, so it's possible.
Du weisst, wenn dann bevorzuge ich das NUX. Da soll jetzt wohl ein neues Update kommen?
Update ist jetzt da
Lovely comparision video
Could you please make a video with Line6 Helix and Axe fx3 or Fm9 too ?
If I can get my hands on the Helix, I'd love to do that...
FM9 is the best overall. Boss is the best for dynamic and instant response.
Hey Daniel, i was curious, why you're still on the 1.0.8 software, you're not updating to the new firmware/software?
Some of these videos were shot quite a while ago....😉
Hi Daniel, I'm a bit in trouble, could you give me your opinion on these 2 machines? that is the best in your opinion? I know you made a comparison video but I don't know English if you would give me a summary and give me your opinion thanks
If I would have to chose between the Valeton GP-200 and the NUX MG30, I'd get the GP200, but just because it's more flexible for live usage (more footswitches, MIDI I/O,...). The overall sound quality is similar in both units (with the newest FW in the Valeton GP200). At least to my ears, the both sound great.Hope that helps! Cheers! 😁🤗
Thanks very kind
I’ve owned an MG30 an tried it for a month before I sent it back. To try the mooer ge300 witch I thought I like but found out the they weren’t supporting that unit and it was having some OS issues so returned that landed in the Valeton gp200 and that I’m keeping even though it’s not as easy to program the foot switches map midi. I’m keeping it because the best feature is the OTG capability that allows me to access THU Overloud & Nembrino sounds from the iPad that the combination blows away any modeler out there! Especially if you get the Nembrino doubler and go out to 2 frfr it’s almost to big I have to dial it back a little! 😂 You can also record to garage band! I use it live in a couple of days and will comment back here. Afterwards
I do exactly the same with the MG30 and the iPad btw
@@EduardoBerthcan you record into the ipad with the MG30 using the usb out on the MG30?
@@AndrewGonzalesArtistry sure! It works as a soundcard.
@@EduardoBerth Much appreciated 🍻
Which one do you think has the best harmonist?
Tbh, I can't recoomend these cheap modeling units harmonising effects. To me they're all lacking quality...and the GP200 doesn't have the intelligent pitch shifter, if I remember correctly. 🤔
Got it.... well, here in brazil, everything is pretty expansive. Eg to buy a helix lt a avarage work should spend something around 8 months of full salary.
@@maxsuellima7488 Yes, that's a shame.Musical equipment should be affordable for anyone imho.I have to check out, which one of these cheaper units has the best harmonising effects...🤔😉🤘
you may have to buy a dedicated pedal. I bought the TC Brainwaves. But it still sucks... I wanted to use it as a capo..@@DanielKraemerMusic
Nice comparison and insights! Are you still favoring the nux mg30 over the valeton gp200 today?
That's hard to say...Soundwise, the NUX is slightly better in my opinion, but the Valeton wins as far as flexibility is concerned...
@@DanielKraemerMusici agree, i just had the valeton gp200 in addition to my nux mg30 and soundwise I like the nux.
I sell my Valeton GP200 * i get from valeton give away n i prefer nux MG-30 sound realistic and valeton sound too digital...
True story brothah
So, do you think GP200 or mg30 is better bro ?
The MG 30 is better soundwise.The Valeton is mire flexible.
@@DanielKraemerMusic but GP200 have no harmonizer :( too bad .. so I went with MG30
@@gurumajuindonesiaIs the harmonizer in the MG30 intelligent?
Doesn't MG30 run directly to PA system?
If not, how to use it in live ?
Thanks
You can play directly to the PA, yes. That works great. You could also use it just as a preamp w/ effects, playing into a poweramp and a conventional cab. Or of course in 4 cable method with an amp. The thing is very flexible!
Just put better effects like delay's and reverb's in the Valeton GP-200 effects loop,i know it will cost more that way but many of us already have good effects pedals to put in the send,return loop of units like these modelers.
Hola amigo la Nux con su fostwitch comparado con la valeton, con cual te quedarías?
What's the guitar rig?
Does the Nux mg 30 have a standby mode to change presets? Greetings
On a new firmware 2023 (V.4) you can do that...
It can rolled the presets like BOSS GT
Recommend what is better to buy for heavy metal, nux or valetone?
Both can deliver great metal tones! I'd go with the GP200, because it's more flexible in a live situation. Cheers!
@@DanielKraemerMusic thank you
like nux
nux mg30 is cheaper than gp200 , i thinking about nux and valeton
That's hard to decide. If you're lokking for the best amp and fx tones, I'd say the NUX. But if you need more flexibility (e.g. live usage, midi), I'd go with the Valeton. Cheers!
Tôi có cả hai và thấy mg 30 âm thanh hay hơn. Nhưng gp 200 thì tiện dụng hơn dù cảm thấy âm thanh không bằng mg30
ban update Firmware cua Valeton!
✨ ‘🎶 ‘Great job ,,, thanks for all your help !!!😎🎸🌾🎈
Frank Conti, you're welcome! 😁😉