Dear Leo, I have been watching your channel for quite a while (subscribed of course), but this is my first comment here. First of all, thank you for your hard work and precious content, you are indeed doing a great service for the community. Let me also compliment your playing and endless creativity with showcasing great new music basically for every video you have! Ontopic: I can only comment on the NUX MG 30, I have been using the unit for two years with great pleasure. I'd like to mention that the MG 30 has a limited capability to have more instances of fx blocks: you can swap EFX-COMP or EFX-MOD blocks, so for instance sacrifice the compression to have 2 drives or give up the EFX block to have two modulation effects. Secondly, I would like to remark on the modelling comparisons in general. In my limited experience, the digital gain structure in these devices is very sensitive to input signal level. As each unit has a different and unknown preamp/AD calibration, this is difficult to standardise, however, there could be a partial solution. You could examine the input levels by recording a known DI input (e.g. from a reamp box) using the default patch level / output volume settings, and observe the DI level in a DAW, and tweak the input level (preamp) controls in each unit to arrive at an arbitrary 'standard' DI level of say -18 dB. This way you could eliminate wildly different input signal levels for the unknown preamp/AD calibrations across devices (and avoid clipping as well). This would be useful in the tones comparison. Here, for instance, it is evident in the rapid scale runs with the Plexi + TS samples that the Valeton and Matribox have insufficient input level + gain combination as the quick notes with weaker attack are too quiet. And as we all know, the digital gain structure is key to amp modelling behaviour, and it could better be compared across devices with at least the input (raw) signal level 'standardised' to some extent. I understand of course that this would require significantly more time from you, so just my two cents! :) Keep up the great work! THX
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!! Thank you also for sharing your experience with the NUX and your suggestions about input gain!
BOSS, why do you not have a looper that works outside of the chain - like in most multi-FX (e.g., Zoom, NuX, etc.) - it is really a deal breaker for me (and perhaps a few others from what I have read).
In a live settings it seems like you can store patches in memory for different songs. Is this a good approach or do you recommend having one or two base patches and then turning on or off effects as needed?
Dear Boss, please putting in future update Aguilar db751 810 stack for bass and Laney IRT 412 for guitar amp. Both modern versatile and original tones!
Hi Leo, I bought the NUX-MG30 when it was entering the market here (2021) so I have it for more then 3 years already (NUX did some very good customer support with their FW updates) and I enjoy it every day. Good to see that it can still hold up with the newer ones..in fact...I wouldn't trade mine for one of the others you tested. Thanks for your review my friend!
Nux mg30 is awesome. I had to "downgrade" from hx stomp xl but let me tell ya.. yes there is less options (which I find refreshing actually) but when you lower the trim and treble on the input global settings on this thing, some amps in this thing sound and feel noticeably better than hx stomp. Effects are good. On par. Far less options. Scenes plus is incredible with multi amp switching within a patch. love this thing!
Leo, you're the reason why I bought the Valeton GP200LT. Your demos are not just great but really flexible. And I gotta say, your playing, your guitar techniques are amazing! Your skills are not human!
Thanks for the unbiased video and the music. 👍I have a Matribox and it totally blew me away, and it does every thing I need absolutely perfectly. To me, it's absolutely brilliant. I suspect I'd like the Valeton too. I had the MG30 and I really liked it but the noise seemed harder to control, though at the time I was using passive pickups. I also have their Live Preamp and it is super, super quiet, even with a lot of gain. The Matribox GREATLY exceeded every one of my expectations right out of the box, and it sounds killer when tweaked right. Incredible value for money. It so happens that it's the more modestly priced units.....more money in my pockets. I don't have 'lower cost gear insecurity', because I know I can play my butt off, the rub is always in the musicall skills; the gear is relative, at least today. The Boss of course seems a great unit too. Reality is, any of these units can be used to churn out whole records. Thanks again👍
Great comparison. I've the Matribox II , the looper is 90 sec mono and 45 stereo. I've added a M-Vave Chocholate plus midi and it works both by 3,5 mm trs cable either via usb, for around 30 euro is a very affordable additional foot switch. I use it to turn on / off fx1,fx2, mod and delay but is fully customizable.
Boss has the heritage, so their effects are going to be very familiar for the vast majority of people. If cost is no issue, I'd say the GX-10 is a great choice. The Nux-MG30 takes the very compelling value option.
I have the Nux MG30. The only compromise when buying this unit are the delays and reverbs. They are usable, but when you come from a Boss DD20, Zoom G3XN and Zoom MS50G, you really feel the iffyness of the Delays and Reverbs in the MG30. The only good thing about the MG30 is the midi capability, amp sims, ir loader and the output modes which helped me get through gigs using the back of the amp, front of the amp and a direct to house situations.
Luigi, how do you evaluate the quality of pitch shifter of MG-30? Is it good for polyphonically lowering the tuning ? For emulating bass, single notes and intervals (thirds, fourths, etc)? For emulating organ sounds with oct up and down (single notes, intervals, simple chords, complex chords)? Is it glitchy? I have NUX Mighty Space, which was recently supplemented with a pitch shifter but it is completely unusable due to artifacts.
Thank you for the awesome video, been waiting for a comparison like this, to my ears I loved the valeton and the matribox tones, more rounded for the the trebele and leaning more into the midrange and bass spectrum of sound which Is what I like in terms of tone. The other two sound bright and fizzy on the top end, which is rather grating and more plastic-sounding, I like mature and distinct sounds more, I was going to buy the mg30, good thing I bought the sonicake, thanks again ❤
Thank you, Leo, your work is invaluable. You've cleared up all my doubts. As far as I'm concerned, the GX 10 is the best unit. It costs more, but it sounds just as good, if not better, than other machines that cost even more. I would use it to take with me to the rehearsal studio (which I reach on foot by subway) and possibly for some small live shows.
Hi Leo 🙏🏼 I’m going to buy the Boss Gx-10. I really only use boss own amp models as I prefer these. I do not care if the copied models are realistic or not, I just want a good and usable sound 😁 so for me Boss always wins 😊
geat playing in the demo leo , you always inspire ! - i have owned a nux mg 30 , coming off of the mg300 which i also own . i have been using it for recording demos of original basic rockish instrumentals and also playing live remote outdoors. i have had it for a while . i have allways made custom patches using 3rd party and some of the stock ir . i absolutely LOVE the mg 30 .i have the best guitar tone i have ever had . lately i have been going for less high gain sounds . i run a lot of vox ac 30 . i use a rangemaster and then an ep boost in the effects loop but placed very early in the signal path . the rangemaster REALLY brightens it up and gives a very natural and very pleasant low distortion . the problem is it cuts too much low signal , so the EP booster is used to bring back those lows and some mids that the rangemaster kills. its not ideal , but getting something that sounds THAT good never is. i have tried a lot of boost pedals with the mg30 , in the loop and before it . i like the rangemaster the best , the germanium one . i have built some with mullard 850 transistors which are perfect for this circuit . i have also tried silicon rangemaster which is a catlinbread naga viper . this is a very good pedal , but its not the same as the ge rangmaster .its a small difference but . the zvex sho is another good pedal for this . i ran across this as i found i had made patches using a humbucker guitar , then i played them with a strat and i was missing a lot of gain and tone , so a quick fix was adding a pedal in front to balance the deficit between hum and single . but what i found was adding the right pedal does something else with the modeler which makes a it more appealing . its feel and freq response . i like it bright .like i said not so much high gain lately . i used a big muff with a mid scooped eq for a long time . you just loose all of the guitars character with that set up . so this is going way back to basics . i find for this type of music i have been writing , which is basic rockish instrumentals , it works well for me. i use stereo delay and its allways tempo matched with a nice reverb . ocaisional modulation patches i will use very very subtly , and i turn that on for just a chorus and back off on the verse . i absolutely love the mg30 . people gripe about the pitch shifter which i do not need so much . i think its a smart set up how they use the "control " button to change scenes . after firmware 5 they made that even more flexible and its really opened the unit up quite a bit more . i would love to try the new boss . my wife uses the boss gt1-b and they give you the terra echo which she uses on bass and its SUCH a cool effect. we play as a duo and i do the drum track so filling the soundscape up is important for us. it sounds goofy i know terra echo on bass , but its absolutely killer if you tempo match it and set it up right . thsnk agsin for keeping the community informed . you are allways very fair and the way you compare the features allways makes sense to me .thats rare ! all the best to you leo , by far the best multi effect channel that ever existed and thats a massive monumental accomplishment , even for an Italian ! ps i met thomas nordegg last night !
Syncing delay time to bpm sucks Making scenes suck Reverbs have limited parameters assigning footswitches to fx blocks suck If those are important to you look somewhere else
Great comparison video Leo. I think the MG-30 set the way you left them was closest to the real deal. With some tweaking I think you could get them all very close. I have the Matribox2 and like it. I think youd be happy with any of these. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸
Being the newest and most expensive unit, I expected to be more impressed with the Boss than the others... and I am. I think it sounds the best of the bunch. But I'm super impressed with the NUX, which (correct me if I'm wrong here) is the oldest of the group by a considerable margin. To me, it's reeaaaaally close to the Boss for tone, and just about matches it in the all-important (to me) latency sweepstakes... for $100 less. It also has some really nice artist presets (Pete Thorn, etc) from what I've seen in other reviews.
I've used mg30 for 2yr with XR IR and get very nice tone for live gig. The scene feature on newest firmware is the most flexible on the market. Its more flexible than helix. I think you should check out mg30 with new firmware.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the music!!! Actually there are some lessons in the channel, there is a dedicated playlist. Here you can check out one of the videos: th-cam.com/video/wBiNfWf_pVE/w-d-xo.html Thank you!!!!
I love your channel. One slight request/criticism: please include switching lag and spillover (or lack thereof) between presets. The latency testing is great..I just want to know about the lag and delay/reverb spillover...
Overall, considering the many aspects needed for a guitar player, I always think the GP 200 wins, again and again. Probably the best cost-benefit ratio of gear history.
I’ve used mg30 for about 2 yrs now,rehearsing straight to the PA sounds very good (using mainly ac30 model) but i was thinking about “upgrading” to a boss gx100 or gx10 because i thought it was a better sounding unit,it has some very organic touches but from your comparison i couldn’t hear that much difference between the mg30 and the boss to be honest…i must mention that i have bought a 2nd hand fender gtx 100 with the intention of using it as an frfr and eventually as a backup for the gigs but i ended up setting it as my main amp as it sounds very good and it has a very good UI and a quite effective 7 switches footswitch.The Mg30 sounds very good also through the gtx100 with the right setting but the gtx models sound better overall in my opinion
if you have more budget boss gx10 is the best choice, if you have a small budget Nux Mg30 is the best choice 😁👍 it all depends on your budget always success Leo 🙏
I was very surprised at how good the Boss sounded. With the plexi, I found the valetron and the matribox (but especially the valetron) to be a flubby fartbox.
I think the last playing example showed which ones stood up and which ones did not. The NUX and Boss grabbed all of the very fast solos you did very well, but the Boss sounded the richest. The other 2 barley picked up most of the fast soloing. The same 2 sounded a bit more muffled as well during the other sound examples. I'm trying not to show my Roland/Boss bias, even though, most of my musical equipment is Boss and Roland...lol Keyboard, amps, bass and guitar pedals, edrums and now Aerophone, are all Boss or Roland gear. But correct me if I'm wrong, but I couldn't make out the notes at the end there on the 2 other units. I almost bought the Val GP 200 Jr because of its price, but I found a used Boss GT-1000 Core on ebay for about the same price, and that's far superior, and I can add a foot pedal and extra buttons too. But that's my 2 cents. Great playin as always Leo, and awesome comparison !!!!! :-)
Minor corrections to the boss unit - 32 amps and aux in is possible via Bluetooth and the mic distance etc is incremental rather than fixed I chose the boss for the quality of tone. But it was close with the MG30. I’m very happy with the choice.
Thank you for sharing! The Bluetooth connectivity requires an additional accessory that must be paid...therefore I would not included it in this comparison...otherwise we can also include other accessory for the other modellers, for instance a DI BOX for XLR out for the NUX...and you know...I this way we would never end up... :) Thank you!
Hi, Leo - I really enjoy your playing and reviews. I just got a Headrush FRFR Go to use with my new GX-10, and so far the best sound of all my modelers (I hava bunch of them; Helix Stomp, Ampero 2 Stomp, etc., etc. ad infinitum). Prior to that, my best results were with a Boss OD-200, which IMO is absolutely marvelous). I was really put off by the lack of an Aux In since I use a Roland P-6 for my Flamenco backing tracks, but realized that you can use the effect return block to achieve the same thing (with an adapter). And , of course, one can always use a Roland GO: Mixer Pro-X (I hope anyway, mine arrives tomorrow). But it is really penny-wise and pound-foolish that Boss didn't provide an Aux In (as I remember, there wasn't one in my (now sold) GT-1000Core either, but I'll have to check the specs again to make sure. OTH, if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone here will let me know..:)
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the playing and the reviews!!!! I do agree...the OD 200 is really nice...I have done some videos about it in the channel with also some comparisons, for instance vs a klon... As regards the aux in, as far as I remember it is missing also in the GT 1000, but the GT 1000 has Bluetooth, so basically you have the BT 20 installed...that you should add to the GX 10 ... Thank you!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Interestingly (and it may be just my ears on a particular day), but I found the GX-10 OD's even better than the OD-200. I think the main reason is that the OD-200 s meant to go in front of a Boss Amp, where the GX-10 is going into the Headrush FRFR GO. I have a lot of Boss Amps, but only realized that they are amp models (except for the most recent), and don't include effects. But the main epiphany for me (nylon string Flamenco) was the Adeline pickup, which sound great straight into the GO if I roll off the bass on the G) (the bass strings are more powerful than the trebles on a nylon string guitar0. There are other pickups now that work well, but none with 1/4" outputs (except the Fishman Aura Pro and the Takamine CT-4DX, which are expensive. All of this is recent, and I am finally (at 84) getting the guitar to sound live like Paco de Lucia (well, ok, except for the picado runs.. and musical creqtivity... and .... :)
@@LeoGibsonGtr You can use the effect return as an Aux IN with an adapter. I tested it, and it works! But I still miss the Aux In. But small mixers are very inexpensive these days...
Boss is the only unit that gives you the ability to use two amps at the same time, that allows you to get any tone you would want. Imho it's better feature than having more amp models in the unit. I have mg30 and gx100, and i can't say that on of them better than another at moddelintg amp. But gx gives you much more and it is very flexible in any situations, love it.
Thank you for sharing! I prefer not to include it in my consideration as it is optional and we need to pay for it and for instance we can pay for a DI box with XLR out for the NUX or for the BOSS...etc. etc.
Thanks Leo. You are a great player and a super TH-camr. Your video are very clear and helpful for us. I was thinking to by the Boss, but there’s no balanced output. My question is: is it really necessary the balanced output? Can this missing, compromise my decision? Thank you.
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and the playing! I would say that XLR outs are useful if you need to run long cables, for instance if your modeller is pretty far from your mixing desk. Of course it is not mandatory....but if you are "picky" about noise...and you run long cables....it is useful Thanks!
The Boss GX-10 has Bluetooth which is better than a 1/8 inch plug in. Why do you ignore this? The latency is a higher priority for me. The Boss GX-10 is the most reliable. How many Boss pedals out there have been out there for decades, millions. For me, the Boss GX-10 is best. I can use two Boss GX-10 units. One in the effects loop of my guitar amp mainly for delay effects. And the other in the front end mainly for overdrive effects. Boss IR might be proprietary but it's Boss, a major company. I know the Boss unit will be the most reliable. It's also the most versatile. It's updatable via USB. The best sound with the lowest latency.
Hi, the bluetooth is optional and not included in the box...therefore I don't think it is fair to include it in this comparison. Thank you for sharing your opinions.
@@LeoGibsonGtr GX-10 Bluetooth is brilliant. You can wirelessly play back music on your mobile device, or to edit the effects of this unit from the app on your mobile device. You can output music played from your Bluetooth audio-capable mobile device from the OUTPUT jacks or the PHONES jack of the GX-10.
Yes, it's nice...but it is NOT included in the box...you need to pay extra money in order to have it. If I include paid option...than I should include it for all the deices...for instance a DI box for NUX for XLR out....etc.
@@LeoGibsonGtr I don't mind paying extra for brilliant engineering such as the Boss Bluetooth thing. A DI box is not anything special. I use a Boss ME-90 and I use the Bluetooth option with that. I run the ME-90 in manual mode, where it's strength lies. The GX-10 has it's strength in memory mode. The ability to run dual amps puts the GX-10 in a higher level of functionality. I also have been using the new Fender '59 Tone Master Bassman. It is a beautiful monster of an amp. I discovered that I need a 31 band EQ to get the exact sound I want. The speakers can flub if driven hard enough at the low frequencies. But the sound is pure musical tweed gold.
It's interesting that with the Valeton, it doesn't sound like the amp it claims to sound like, but what it comes up with sounds really good in its own right. An EQ in the chain will clean it up. I think as is without tweaking, the Boss GX 10 will cut through a mix with the harder rock stuff, but it's way too upper midrangy by default.
Well, you can even buy a box in order to add XLR out to the NUX MG 30...I mean...adding paid optional could enhance any of these devices, therefore I prefer to keep everything as it is in the box. Thanks
@@LeoGibsonGtr But still you used your own IR through the whole video 🤠 It might be better than the ones inside each of the units, but we don't know that.. Sorry for my response, this video is really good, shows a lot of work. Thanks a bunch. Btw, I have a GX-100 and I'm so happy with it that I might look for a GX-10 in addition to it.
Dear Leo, I hope you soon will be able to introduce a new whatever brand multi effect unit that features a gig ready one or 2 button looper that can be dedicated to any of the footswitches. I found it really outrageous that the last unit could do the job well was the Zoom GN series almost a decade ago. Tks
Thank you for sharing! Actually I didn't go into much details about the loopers of this unit....I would need some time to study the features offered....for sure it is an interesting topic... Thanks!
The Boss GX-10 is the pedal that I dreamt of having. I mean, I have the GX-100 and it was perfect for me since I don’t need to have those of the GT-1000 or other flagship multi effects or modelers. Even the GX-100 is too much but the quality of sounds and the number of effects plus the AIRD amps are more than enough for me. Another thing is I can put 3rd party IR’s and having lots of slots is more than enough since I only use a couple (around 5-6 amps/cabs sims) of amps/cabs that suits my style of playing. Now going back to the GX-10, the thing I love is its compact design plus it uses a newer USB type C. Aside from its compact design, I mainly use 1 control switch and the UP DOWN switch for my patches. I don’t use manual mode since I really take the time to create my patches and let the control switch enable some modulation parts or the solo part of the song. I know some people would love to have a lot of switch for total control but as I said, I take time to create and manage every patch and I am just using minimal sounds or tones per song. I love the GX-100, I really do but this Boss GX-10 is the one that I am looking for a multi effects processor. It has an identical specs and power of the GX-100 but in a compact design. I’d still keep my GX-100 though 😁 but this GX-10 will be my partner for everything from now on (or should I say once I get it since I preordered 😅). Always a pleasure watching your videos Leo! Very informative and superb playing! 🥂
@LeoGibsonGtr and another thing that I love most with the unit is the latency and the carryover effects when switching. Even other flagship multi effects can't do that when switching. The latency is really low that it's unnoticeable especially when switching from solo with delay/reverb to normal mode. By the way, I just watched your latest video on the Boss GX-10 and it was fantastically informative. Always love watching these types of videos with unbiased views and REAL information with firsthand experience plus the skill of playing is on another level. Always a pleasure Leo! 🥂
Thanks for a great breakdown. The touch screen will become more important in the future as people move away from Windows (spyware) and Mac. Manufactures choose not to make software for Linux so Linux users buy half a system. That point alone makes me not buy any of these units. If I had to get one, it would be the one with the best hands on UI. They all look terrible.
I would probably go for the NUX, for the low latency, low price but still good features and sound. How far we've come... 300 dollars for such powerful ang good sounding units.
I just learned that the NuX has acoustic IRs. I'm glad I have the NuX because I can use it for both guitars. A feature that is hardly known about the NuX.
Did you find the GX100 you own had much better sound quality in general than some of the other pedal boards including the ME90. I just bought the MB90 and I'm very disappointed with the the actual sound quality coming out of the unit.
i have the mg30 for 2yrs and it's great plus the updated pro-scene feature is a big step.. I'm planning to upgrade..my heart says i'll go for nux trident or the boss gx100.. .hmmmm..do you have comparisson for these units? by the way you're still the best pedal reviewer with great playing..
I have had the GX100 for almost 2 years. It is the best piece gear I have ever purchased. Quick tip, once you program your main preset, copy it over the entire bank. Then, each program will have seamless switching and effects spillover. As well as acting like different scenes for you favorite program. Rock on.
Hi Leo. Thanks for another great video! Is the sound quality of the effects on Boss GX-10 as good as on Boss' analogue pedals like Chorus Ensemble, Flanger, Octaver?
Actually I never compare the effect in the BOSS pedalboard vs the classic effects....To me they sound very similarly...but I have not done a direct comparison. Thank you!
ou're welcome!!!! Wow, Uzbekistan... I really love the fact that with these TH-cam videos we can connect with friends that are so far away, both in terms of physical distance but also in terms of culture...and music unites us all!
I was lookin for somthin pocket freindly plus gigbag ready... thoght of mg400 after my ampero stopped workin... m goin with boss gt1 again since it solves my purpose.. but gx10 is always in my list.. and just like gt1 it'll be in market for quite a long time... there probably in an year or two.. would definately go for gx10..
Felicidades desde México, una vez mas un video increible con una comparación justa entre cada equipo, felicitaciones!! Pd los IR de leo son verdaderamente asombrosos! (Visitar su web) Pd2 la nux mg 30 si puede tener 2 efectos del mismo tipo a la vez (stack)
Thank you so much, and I'm really happy that you appreciate the IRs and the video!!! Thank you also for sharing the two effects blocks of the NUX...thanks!!!
On the QX10, is there anyway to see the progress of the loop being played/dubbed? From what I can tell, there is no visual indication when the looper is about to repeat.
I didnt like how any of them sounded, and its strange because usually the Valeton do sound very close to the original ones in the other videos Leo has done.
Yes, typically they sound very good especialy with Soldano...maybe the plexi is not as good...as for instance it misses the double volume knobs that the plexi has.
You are welcome! The Matribox 2 pro is in another league in my opinion...it would be worth comparing it to the BOSS GX 100 and not the GX 10...maybe in an upcoming video Thank you!
Do you think you can set up Tone X One to work the midi in and out on the Sonicake? That alone makes it worth more than any of those units. Boss dropped the ball not adding Midi. Maybe they will add midi over usb in a future update.
Hi, the ToneX one does not have MIDI ports, but only MIDI over USB, therefore I guess you would need an external MIDI device with both midi over usb and regular midi ports to drive the ToneX One and the Sonicake. Thank you
@@LeoGibsonGtr I just discovered what MIDI is. I can code in Arduino and have coded using I2C protocall. This is very simallar to MIDIUSB. I am going to create a dedicated USB to USB midi cable for Tone X One and the Valeton GP-100 :) Basically if the device it talks to a USB remote editor its speaking MIDIUSB.
Hi, I did in my initial comparisons and then I thought it was not interesting as typically we have hundreds of presets, and some more or some less do not make too much difference. But of course for some of us it may be an interesting information. Thank you for your suggestion.
Good comparison. The Valeton sounds very different because of the model you used, which is based on a 60s plexi (UK SLP), the UK800 or UK900 would have better for this comparison, those models are similar to the others you used
@LeoGibsonGtr well, in the Valeton they call several models "Plexi". I don't know if that is correct or wrong, but the 800 and 900 sound more modern and closer to the other pedals you compared. The UK SLP in Valeton sounds good for a 60s era amp, but in this context sounds out of place and gives a bad impression of what the Valeton can do. Just my opinion, cheers 🙂
Leo qual plexi vc usou na GP 200 ? Pergunto porque tem varios la e no video esse ta soando bem escuro me parece ser o SLP 59, o UK 50 e o UK 45 seriam mais brilhantes e próximos do amp original e do Gx10 e Nux . Nesse comparativo a Matribox e a Valeton ficaram bem escuras creio que elas tem versoes melhores do plexi.
I tried getting the Van Halen on my GX 100 I do what Eddie did and turn the treble and middle up all the way and it’s sounds very bright and fizzy, I got some celestion IRs and it sounds better
NUX sounds the most adequate. Good to see new and smaller companies appear to rival the old ones. Surprised that Boss still can't make convincing processors after their Katana success. Sounds like product from some other company with double O in the name and it's not Mooer.
@@LeoGibsonGtr i have to say i can't comprehend how your channel have that little subscribers. I'd say it is one of the most useful and valuable guitar channels on YT and in my opinion it deserves much, much, much bigger audience
Leo, there is a bit incorect tech spec info:. Boss GX-10 has 4.3 inch screen (not 5 inch, as shown in Your video). However, Boss is really hiding this info :D . I searched the web, and there is no official info on screen size. At BOSS site I fund that screen resolution is the same as GX-100. There several sources, pionting that the screen is the seame as GX-100 , that means it is 4.3 inch.
in my opinion, in terms of tones, the Nux seems to be the closest of the 4 to the original amp you recorded, the Matribox and the Valeton sound like the pedalboards of 20 years ago.
Boss gx10 all the way
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you 😀
Dear Leo,
I have been watching your channel for quite a while (subscribed of course), but this is my first comment here.
First of all, thank you for your hard work and precious content, you are indeed doing a great service for the community. Let me also compliment your playing and endless creativity with showcasing great new music basically for every video you have!
Ontopic:
I can only comment on the NUX MG 30, I have been using the unit for two years with great pleasure.
I'd like to mention that the MG 30 has a limited capability to have more instances of fx blocks: you can swap EFX-COMP or EFX-MOD blocks, so for instance sacrifice the compression to have 2 drives or give up the EFX block to have two modulation effects.
Secondly, I would like to remark on the modelling comparisons in general. In my limited experience, the digital gain structure in these devices is very sensitive to input signal level. As each unit has a different and unknown preamp/AD calibration, this is difficult to standardise, however, there could be a partial solution. You could examine the input levels by recording a known DI input (e.g. from a reamp box) using the default patch level / output volume settings, and observe the DI level in a DAW, and tweak the input level (preamp) controls in each unit to arrive at an arbitrary 'standard' DI level of say -18 dB. This way you could eliminate wildly different input signal levels for the unknown preamp/AD calibrations across devices (and avoid clipping as well).
This would be useful in the tones comparison. Here, for instance, it is evident in the rapid scale runs with the Plexi + TS samples that the Valeton and Matribox have insufficient input level + gain combination as the quick notes with weaker attack are too quiet. And as we all know, the digital gain structure is key to amp modelling behaviour, and it could better be compared across devices with at least the input (raw) signal level 'standardised' to some extent. I understand of course that this would require significantly more time from you, so just my two cents! :)
Keep up the great work! THX
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!
Thank you also for sharing your experience with the NUX and your suggestions about input gain!
Excellent comparison as usual. Thanks for your help, Leo.
You re welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!
Love that plexi sound on GX100 & MG30
Thank you for sharing!
Arigato, Leo-San. Thank you for including BOSS in this comparison. If you have any GX-10 questions - please connect!
You are welcome!
So far I have no questions....I'm just "sad" that you didn't select my channel for the launch of the product....😀
Boss!! Is there any gx 1000 coming? 👀👀👀 we need a full (new gt 1000) with touch screen and better signal chain. You guys are the best.
BOSS, why do you not have a looper that works outside of the chain - like in most multi-FX (e.g., Zoom, NuX, etc.) - it is really a deal breaker for me (and perhaps a few others from what I have read).
In a live settings it seems like you can store patches in memory for different songs. Is this a good approach or do you recommend having one or two base patches and then turning on or off effects as needed?
Dear Boss, please putting in future update Aguilar db751 810 stack for bass and Laney IRT 412 for guitar amp. Both modern versatile and original tones!
Hi Leo,
I bought the NUX-MG30 when it was entering the market here (2021) so I have it for more then 3 years already (NUX did some very good customer support with their FW updates) and I enjoy it every day.
Good to see that it can still hold up with the newer ones..in fact...I wouldn't trade mine for one of the others you tested.
Thanks for your review my friend!
You are welcome and thank you for sharing your experience!
Nux mg30 is awesome. I had to "downgrade" from hx stomp xl but let me tell ya.. yes there is less options (which I find refreshing actually) but when you lower the trim and treble on the input global settings on this thing, some amps in this thing sound and feel noticeably better than hx stomp. Effects are good. On par. Far less options. Scenes plus is incredible with multi amp switching within a patch. love this thing!
Leo, you're the reason why I bought the Valeton GP200LT. Your demos are not just great but really flexible. And I gotta say, your playing, your guitar techniques are amazing! Your skills are not human!
Thank you so much for such amazing compliments that really make me happy!!!! Really super appreciated!!!
Valeton GP200 best closer to the real demos
Thanks for the unbiased video and the music. 👍I have a Matribox and it totally blew me away, and it does every thing I need absolutely perfectly. To me, it's absolutely brilliant. I suspect I'd like the Valeton too. I had the MG30 and I really liked it but the noise seemed harder to control, though at the time I was using passive pickups. I also have their Live Preamp and it is super, super quiet, even with a lot of gain. The Matribox GREATLY exceeded every one of my expectations right out of the box, and it sounds killer when tweaked right. Incredible value for money. It so happens that it's the more modestly priced units.....more money in my pockets. I don't have 'lower cost gear insecurity', because I know I can play my butt off, the rub is always in the musicall skills; the gear is relative, at least today. The Boss of course seems a great unit too. Reality is, any of these units can be used to churn out whole records. Thanks again👍
You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video and especially the music!!!
Thank you also for sharing your findings and your opinions!!!
I’m happy with the Mg30. I love Boss too but the Mg30 is sufficient for me. You can get great tones, easy to use, customizable and affordable.
Thank you for sharing!
Leo's videos are the one I like before I watch and that like stays after the video.
😀 Thank you sooooo much!!!!
Great comparison.
I've the Matribox II , the looper is 90 sec mono and 45 stereo.
I've added a M-Vave Chocholate plus midi and it works both by 3,5 mm trs cable either via usb, for around 30 euro is a very affordable additional foot switch. I use it to turn on / off fx1,fx2, mod and delay but is fully customizable.
Thank you, I'm really happy that you appreciate the comparison!
Thank you also for sharing your experience!
The Boss stuff doesnt get enough love unfairly by all the experts, you test everything and rate Boss up the top, good enough for me
Thank you for sharing
Thank you for your kind words.
Boss has the heritage, so their effects are going to be very familiar for the vast majority of people. If cost is no issue, I'd say the GX-10 is a great choice. The Nux-MG30 takes the very compelling value option.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for the great comparison, but I especially want to thank you for that awesome guitar stank face on the Kiesel parts of the opening track.
You are welcome!
Glad I bought the NUX .
Got it on sale for £185 a couple of years ago as well so best value.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Leo, I always follow your content for multi-effect compilation
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I have the Nux MG30. The only compromise when buying this unit are the delays and reverbs. They are usable, but when you come from a Boss DD20, Zoom G3XN and Zoom MS50G, you really feel the iffyness of the Delays and Reverbs in the MG30. The only good thing about the MG30 is the midi capability, amp sims, ir loader and the output modes which helped me get through gigs using the back of the amp, front of the amp and a direct to house situations.
Thank you for sharing your experience and your findings!
Luigi, how do you evaluate the quality of pitch shifter of MG-30? Is it good for polyphonically lowering the tuning ? For emulating bass, single notes and intervals (thirds, fourths, etc)? For emulating organ sounds with oct up and down (single notes, intervals, simple chords, complex chords)? Is it glitchy? I have NUX Mighty Space, which was recently supplemented with a pitch shifter but it is completely unusable due to artifacts.
Thank you for the awesome video, been waiting for a comparison like this, to my ears I loved the valeton and the matribox tones, more rounded for the the trebele and leaning more into the midrange and bass spectrum of sound which Is what I like in terms of tone. The other two sound bright and fizzy on the top end, which is rather grating and more plastic-sounding, I like mature and distinct sounds more, I was going to buy the mg30, good thing I bought the sonicake, thanks again ❤
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Thank you also for sharing your findings!!
Thank you, Leo, your work is invaluable. You've cleared up all my doubts. As far as I'm concerned, the GX 10 is the best unit. It costs more, but it sounds just as good, if not better, than other machines that cost even more. I would use it to take with me to the rehearsal studio (which I reach on foot by subway) and possibly for some small live shows.
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Hi Leo 🙏🏼 I’m going to buy the Boss Gx-10. I really only use boss own amp models as I prefer these. I do not care if the copied models are realistic or not, I just want a good and usable sound 😁 so for me Boss always wins 😊
Thank you for sharing !
geat playing in the demo leo , you always inspire ! - i have owned a nux mg 30 , coming off of the mg300 which i also own . i have been using it for recording demos of original basic rockish instrumentals and also playing live remote outdoors. i have had it for a while . i have allways made custom patches using 3rd party and some of the stock ir . i absolutely LOVE the mg 30 .i have the best guitar tone i have ever had . lately i have been going for less high gain sounds . i run a lot of vox ac 30 . i use a rangemaster and then an ep boost in the effects loop but placed very early in the signal path . the rangemaster REALLY brightens it up and gives a very natural and very pleasant low distortion . the problem is it cuts too much low signal , so the EP booster is used to bring back those lows and some mids that the rangemaster kills. its not ideal , but getting something that sounds THAT good never is. i have tried a lot of boost pedals with the mg30 , in the loop and before it . i like the rangemaster the best , the germanium one . i have built some with mullard 850 transistors which are perfect for this circuit . i have also tried silicon rangemaster which is a catlinbread naga viper . this is a very good pedal , but its not the same as the ge rangmaster .its a small difference but . the zvex sho is another good pedal for this . i ran across this as i found i had made patches using a humbucker guitar , then i played them with a strat and i was missing a lot of gain and tone , so a quick fix was adding a pedal in front to balance the deficit between hum and single . but what i found was adding the right pedal does something else with the modeler which makes a it more appealing . its feel and freq response . i like it bright .like i said not so much high gain lately . i used a big muff with a mid scooped eq for a long time . you just loose all of the guitars character with that set up . so this is going way back to basics . i find for this type of music i have been writing , which is basic rockish instrumentals , it works well for me. i use stereo delay and its allways tempo matched with a nice reverb . ocaisional modulation patches i will use very very subtly , and i turn that on for just a chorus and back off on the verse . i absolutely love the mg30 . people gripe about the pitch shifter which i do not need so much . i think its a smart set up how they use the "control " button to change scenes . after firmware 5 they made that even more flexible and its really opened the unit up quite a bit more . i would love to try the new boss . my wife uses the boss gt1-b and they give you the terra echo which she uses on bass and its SUCH a cool effect. we play as a duo and i do the drum track so filling the soundscape up is important for us. it sounds goofy i know terra echo on bass , but its absolutely killer if you tempo match it and set it up right . thsnk agsin for keeping the community informed . you are allways very fair and the way you compare the features allways makes sense to me .thats rare ! all the best to you leo , by far the best multi effect channel that ever existed and thats a massive monumental accomplishment , even for an Italian ! ps i met thomas nordegg last night !
Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!!!
Geezzzz sorry i ask...
NUXMG30 plus your favorite drive pedal on the effects loop is all you need.... This unit is so flexible in terms or usability
Thank you for sharing!
In terms of price, feature and quality
Nux -MG30 Is a great unit for me 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hi, can you get good results from the nux without using the app or plugging it in?
I have one, dont recommend!
@@padawan9127 Yes absolutely
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@@chelososamusic why not ?
Syncing delay time to bpm sucks
Making scenes suck
Reverbs have limited parameters
assigning footswitches to fx blocks suck
If those are important to you look somewhere else
Great job on the video mate bravo 👏. They all sound pretty good but I’ve purchased the Boss. Awesome product so far!
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!
Thank you also for sharing your final choice!
Thank you!
Great comparison video Leo. I think the MG-30 set the way you left them was closest to the real deal. With some tweaking I think you could get them all very close. I have the Matribox2 and like it. I think youd be happy with any of these. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸
Thank you for sharing your findings and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!
Being the newest and most expensive unit, I expected to be more impressed with the Boss than the others... and I am. I think it sounds the best of the bunch. But I'm super impressed with the NUX, which (correct me if I'm wrong here) is the oldest of the group by a considerable margin. To me, it's reeaaaaally close to the Boss for tone, and just about matches it in the all-important (to me) latency sweepstakes... for $100 less. It also has some really nice artist presets (Pete Thorn, etc) from what I've seen in other reviews.
Than you for sharing! Yes, the NUX is the oldest one...
Boss shouldn’t even be compared to these…. The other brands are cheap crap
@@swiftymcgarnagle4567nux sounds better than boss here
Yeay this is what im waitin for.
Thank you❤
You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!!!
I've used mg30 for 2yr with XR IR and get very nice tone for live gig. The scene feature on newest firmware is the most flexible on the market. Its more flexible than helix. I think you should check out mg30 with new firmware.
Thank you for sharing! Yes, I have update the FW and the scene option is for sure nice
Excellent video. Agree with recording at 48, apposed to 44.1 and oversampling to deal with aliasing distortion.
Thank you so much!!!
I'm a Boss and Nux fan 😊. Good video as usual Leo thanks man 😎✌️👊💯🎸
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!
Your demo are always really beautiful and melodic. Hopefully, you'd make lessons someday leo.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the music!!!
Actually there are some lessons in the channel, there is a dedicated playlist. Here you can check out one of the videos: th-cam.com/video/wBiNfWf_pVE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you!!!!
I love your channel. One slight request/criticism: please include switching lag and spillover (or lack thereof) between presets. The latency testing is great..I just want to know about the lag and delay/reverb spillover...
Thank you, I'm really happy that you appreciate the channel!
Thank you also for your suggestion...even if it requires even more work to do...😀
@LeoGibsonGtr at least it's pretty easy to do. Channel lag, just record and visually look at the dropout space on the waveform.
Freat syggestion for even better review.. I would add a Global Tap Tempo feature
Overall, considering the many aspects needed for a guitar player, I always think the GP 200 wins, again and again. Probably the best cost-benefit ratio of gear history.
Thank you for sharing your findings!
I’ve used mg30 for about 2 yrs now,rehearsing straight to the PA sounds very good (using mainly ac30 model) but i was thinking about “upgrading” to a boss gx100 or gx10 because i thought it was a better sounding unit,it has some very organic touches but from your comparison i couldn’t hear that much difference between the mg30 and the boss to be honest…i must mention that i have bought a 2nd hand fender gtx 100 with the intention of using it as an frfr and eventually as a backup for the gigs but i ended up setting it as my main amp as it sounds very good and it has a very good UI and a quite effective 7 switches footswitch.The Mg30 sounds very good also through the gtx100 with the right setting but the gtx models sound better overall in my opinion
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and your findings!
if you have more budget boss gx10 is the best choice, if you have a small budget Nux Mg30 is the best choice 😁👍 it all depends on your budget
always success Leo 🙏
Thank you for sharing!
Yes, budget is of course a super important parameter to take into consideration!
Thank you!
Wow thanks for this! Makes my life easier in choosing between NUX and Boss. I might go with Boss GX-10!
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I was very surprised at how good the Boss sounded. With the plexi, I found the valetron and the matribox (but especially the valetron) to be a flubby fartbox.
Thank you for sharing!
From the first valeton gp 100 I bought as quickly I resell it… feel the sounds very cheap
I have the MG 30 perfectly sufficient for all my needs. A fiew more effects would help. But whatever there is present is High quality
Thank you for shairng!
I think the last playing example showed which ones stood up and which ones did not.
The NUX and Boss grabbed all of the very fast solos you did very well, but the Boss sounded the richest.
The other 2 barley picked up most of the fast soloing.
The same 2 sounded a bit more muffled as well during the other sound examples.
I'm trying not to show my Roland/Boss bias, even though, most of my musical equipment is Boss and Roland...lol
Keyboard, amps, bass and guitar pedals, edrums and now Aerophone, are all Boss or Roland gear.
But correct me if I'm wrong, but I couldn't make out the notes at the end there on the 2 other units.
I almost bought the Val GP 200 Jr because of its price, but I found a used Boss GT-1000 Core on ebay for about the same price, and that's far superior, and I can add a foot pedal and extra buttons too.
But that's my 2 cents.
Great playin as always Leo, and awesome comparison !!!!!
:-)
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the comparison and the playing!
Thank you also for sharing your experience and your findings!!
BOSS/Roland Bias is totally acceptable 🤣
Great review thank you
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For me, as a Nux-MG30 owner, the Boss GX-10 is the boss here.
Thank you for sharing
Nice choices for this comparison!
Thank you!
Minor corrections to the boss unit - 32 amps and aux in is possible via Bluetooth and the mic distance etc is incremental rather than fixed I chose the boss for the quality of tone. But it was close with the MG30. I’m very happy with the choice.
Thank you for sharing!
The Bluetooth connectivity requires an additional accessory that must be paid...therefore I would not included it in this comparison...otherwise we can also include other accessory for the other modellers, for instance a DI BOX for XLR out for the NUX...and you know...I this way we would never end up... :)
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@@LeoGibsonGtrah, yes, fair point. Always love your videos, Leo. Thank you for the content.
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I love my mg-30.
I just found a trick to make it sound great.
@@briane.paulson oh? What would that be?
Also tell us
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Hi, Leo - I really enjoy your playing and reviews. I just got a Headrush FRFR Go to use with my new GX-10, and so far the best sound of all my modelers (I hava bunch of them; Helix Stomp, Ampero 2 Stomp, etc., etc. ad infinitum). Prior to that, my best results were with a Boss OD-200, which IMO is absolutely marvelous).
I was really put off by the lack of an Aux In since I use a Roland P-6 for my Flamenco backing tracks, but realized that you can use the effect return block to achieve the same thing (with an adapter). And , of course, one can always use a Roland GO: Mixer Pro-X (I hope anyway, mine arrives tomorrow).
But it is really penny-wise and pound-foolish that Boss didn't provide an Aux In (as I remember, there wasn't one in my (now sold) GT-1000Core either, but I'll have to check the specs again to make sure. OTH, if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone here will let me know..:)
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the playing and the reviews!!!!
I do agree...the OD 200 is really nice...I have done some videos about it in the channel with also some comparisons, for instance vs a klon...
As regards the aux in, as far as I remember it is missing also in the GT 1000, but the GT 1000 has Bluetooth, so basically you have the BT 20 installed...that you should add to the GX 10 ...
Thank you!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Interestingly (and it may be just my ears on a particular day), but I found the GX-10 OD's even better than the OD-200. I think the main reason is that the OD-200 s meant to go in front of a Boss Amp, where the GX-10 is going into the Headrush FRFR GO. I have a lot of Boss Amps, but only realized that they are amp models (except for the most recent), and don't include effects.
But the main epiphany for me (nylon string Flamenco) was the Adeline pickup, which sound great straight into the GO if I roll off the bass on the G) (the bass strings are more powerful than the trebles on a nylon string guitar0.
There are other pickups now that work well, but none with 1/4" outputs (except the Fishman Aura Pro and the Takamine CT-4DX, which are expensive.
All of this is recent, and I am finally (at 84) getting the guitar to sound live like Paco de Lucia (well, ok, except for the picado runs.. and musical creqtivity... and .... :)
@@LeoGibsonGtr You can use the effect return as an Aux IN with an adapter. I tested it, and it works!
But I still miss the Aux In. But small mixers are very inexpensive these days...
How do you like the headrush frfr go? Would it be better than studio monitors?
@@riccardomadama1184 I like is a lot so far. Seems to be accurate compared with my studio speakers, but I haven't run an exhaustive test.
Boss is the only unit that gives you the ability to use two amps at the same time, that allows you to get any tone you would want. Imho it's better feature than having more amp models in the unit.
I have mg30 and gx100, and i can't say that on of them better than another at moddelintg amp. But gx gives you much more and it is very flexible in any situations, love it.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Thank you!
Boss GX-10 has an optional Bluetooth, so you can stream backing tracks via Bluetooth connectivity I suppose.
Thank you for sharing! I prefer not to include it in my consideration as it is optional and we need to pay for it and for instance we can pay for a DI box with XLR out for the NUX or for the BOSS...etc. etc.
@LeoGibsonGtr i totally agree with you.. that's a bummer for most of us
THanks!
Thanks Leo. You are a great player and a super TH-camr. Your video are very clear and helpful for us. I was thinking to by the Boss, but there’s no balanced output. My question is: is it really necessary the balanced output? Can this missing, compromise my decision? Thank you.
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and the playing!
I would say that XLR outs are useful if you need to run long cables, for instance if your modeller is pretty far from your mixing desk. Of course it is not mandatory....but if you are "picky" about noise...and you run long cables....it is useful
Thanks!
Grabbed a used GP200 for $217 shipped on Reverb - chasing down a used Boss GX-10 now 👍
Thank you for sharing!
The Boss GX-10 has Bluetooth which is better than a 1/8 inch plug in. Why do you ignore this? The latency is a higher priority for me. The Boss GX-10 is the most reliable. How many Boss pedals out there have been out there for decades, millions. For me, the Boss GX-10 is best. I can use two Boss GX-10 units. One in the effects loop of my guitar amp mainly for delay effects. And the other in the front end mainly for overdrive effects. Boss IR might be proprietary but it's Boss, a major company. I know the Boss unit will be the most reliable. It's also the most versatile. It's updatable via USB. The best sound with the lowest latency.
Hi, the bluetooth is optional and not included in the box...therefore I don't think it is fair to include it in this comparison.
Thank you for sharing your opinions.
@@LeoGibsonGtr GX-10 Bluetooth is brilliant. You can wirelessly play back music on your mobile device, or to
edit the effects of this unit from the app on your mobile device. You can output music played from your Bluetooth audio-capable mobile device from the OUTPUT jacks or the PHONES jack of the GX-10.
Yes, it's nice...but it is NOT included in the box...you need to pay extra money in order to have it. If I include paid option...than I should include it for all the deices...for instance a DI box for NUX for XLR out....etc.
@@LeoGibsonGtr I don't mind paying extra for brilliant engineering such as the Boss Bluetooth thing. A DI box is not anything special. I use a Boss ME-90 and I use the Bluetooth option with that. I run the ME-90 in manual mode, where it's strength lies. The GX-10 has it's strength in memory mode. The ability to run dual amps puts the GX-10 in a higher level of functionality. I also have been using the new Fender '59 Tone Master Bassman. It is a beautiful monster of an amp. I discovered that I need a 31 band EQ to get the exact sound I want. The speakers can flub if driven hard enough at the low frequencies. But the sound is pure musical tweed gold.
Leo you play so good oh my god!
Thank you sooo much!!!!
Thanks Leo.
very good video
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It's interesting that with the Valeton, it doesn't sound like the amp it claims to sound like, but what it comes up with sounds really good in its own right. An EQ in the chain will clean it up. I think as is without tweaking, the Boss GX 10 will cut through a mix with the harder rock stuff, but it's way too upper midrangy by default.
Thank you for sharing your findings!
Of course Boss is best, its exoensive though!
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What a great, heavy riff you had going on there in the intro!
P.S. I haven't watched the review yet...haha
😀... I'm happy that you enjoyed the riff!!
The Boss stays the boss bro , "nuff said ! 😃😃😃
Thank you for sharing
True the Boss doesn’t have an aux in but you can buy the Bluetooth adapter to add audio. Yes, extra cost but it is possible which should be mentioned.
Well, you can even buy a box in order to add XLR out to the NUX MG 30...I mean...adding paid optional could enhance any of these devices, therefore I prefer to keep everything as it is in the box.
Thanks
@@LeoGibsonGtr But still you used your own IR through the whole video 🤠 It might be better than the ones inside each of the units, but we don't know that.. Sorry for my response, this video is really good, shows a lot of work. Thanks a bunch. Btw, I have a GX-100 and I'm so happy with it that I might look for a GX-10 in addition to it.
Great review
Thank you so much!!
Dear Leo, I hope you soon will be able to introduce a new whatever brand multi effect unit that features a gig ready one or 2 button looper that can be dedicated to any of the footswitches. I found it really outrageous that the last unit could do the job well was the Zoom GN series almost a decade ago. Tks
Thank you for sharing! Actually I didn't go into much details about the loopers of this unit....I would need some time to study the features offered....for sure it is an interesting topic...
Thanks!
@LeoGibsonGtr you dont have to. but you can interpret to hotone a group of users' wish. tks!!
The Boss GX-10 is the pedal that I dreamt of having. I mean, I have the GX-100 and it was perfect for me since I don’t need to have those of the GT-1000 or other flagship multi effects or modelers. Even the GX-100 is too much but the quality of sounds and the number of effects plus the AIRD amps are more than enough for me. Another thing is I can put 3rd party IR’s and having lots of slots is more than enough since I only use a couple (around 5-6 amps/cabs sims) of amps/cabs that suits my style of playing. Now going back to the GX-10, the thing I love is its compact design plus it uses a newer USB type C. Aside from its compact design, I mainly use 1 control switch and the UP DOWN switch for my patches. I don’t use manual mode since I really take the time to create my patches and let the control switch enable some modulation parts or the solo part of the song. I know some people would love to have a lot of switch for total control but as I said, I take time to create and manage every patch and I am just using minimal sounds or tones per song. I love the GX-100, I really do but this Boss GX-10 is the one that I am looking for a multi effects processor. It has an identical specs and power of the GX-100 but in a compact design. I’d still keep my GX-100 though 😁 but this GX-10 will be my partner for everything from now on (or should I say once I get it since I preordered 😅). Always a pleasure watching your videos Leo! Very informative and superb playing! 🥂
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@LeoGibsonGtr and another thing that I love most with the unit is the latency and the carryover effects when switching. Even other flagship multi effects can't do that when switching. The latency is really low that it's unnoticeable especially when switching from solo with delay/reverb to normal mode. By the way, I just watched your latest video on the Boss GX-10 and it was fantastically informative. Always love watching these types of videos with unbiased views and REAL information with firsthand experience plus the skill of playing is on another level. Always a pleasure Leo! 🥂
Thanks for a great breakdown. The touch screen will become more important in the future as people move away from Windows (spyware) and Mac. Manufactures choose not to make software for Linux so Linux users buy half a system. That point alone makes me not buy any of these units. If I had to get one, it would be the one with the best hands on UI. They all look terrible.
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I would probably go for the NUX, for the low latency, low price but still good features and sound. How far we've come... 300 dollars for such powerful ang good sounding units.
Thank you for sharing!
Yes, we can get pretty amazing results for the money these days...
I just learned that the NuX has acoustic IRs. I'm glad I have the NuX because I can use it for both guitars. A feature that is hardly known about the NuX.
Did you find the GX100 you own had much better sound quality in general than some of the other pedal boards including the ME90. I just bought the MB90 and I'm very disappointed with the the actual sound quality coming out of the unit.
Hi, the GX 100 sounds very similarly to the ME 90...if you don't like the ME 90 I doubt you would like the GX 100.
Thanks!
Graet video and playing Leo, I have a GX-100 and the new Firmware adds an acoustic simulator among other things is this now availabe on the GX-10 too?
Good benchmark 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!
Is the midi from the boss only compatible for boss footswitches? or it can support other footswitches as well?
About the aux in missing in the boss it’s possible to use the return input as aux. Not the best implementation but possible.
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i have the mg30 for 2yrs and it's great plus the updated pro-scene feature is a big step.. I'm planning to upgrade..my heart says i'll go for nux trident or the boss gx100.. .hmmmm..do you have comparisson for these units? by the way you're still the best pedal reviewer with great playing..
I have had the GX100 for almost 2 years. It is the best piece gear I have ever purchased. Quick tip, once you program your main preset, copy it over the entire bank. Then, each program will have seamless switching and effects spillover. As well as acting like different scenes for you favorite program. Rock on.
Ampere vs boss gx10 which one is good
gx-10 definitely :)
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Hi Leo. Thanks for another great video! Is the sound quality of the effects on Boss GX-10 as good as on Boss' analogue pedals like Chorus Ensemble, Flanger, Octaver?
Actually I never compare the effect in the BOSS pedalboard vs the classic effects....To me they sound very similarly...but I have not done a direct comparison.
Thank you!
Thanks Leo. Cheers from Uzbekistan
ou're welcome!!!! Wow, Uzbekistan... I really love the fact that with these TH-cam videos we can connect with friends that are so far away, both in terms of physical distance but also in terms of culture...and music unites us all!
@@LeoGibsonGtrindeed, I have been following your channel for almost 2 years now. And have been recommending it to my guitarist friends
Thank you sooo much!!!
Boss is the best ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing!
Boss gx 10 ❤
Thank you for sharing!
I was lookin for somthin pocket freindly plus gigbag ready... thoght of mg400 after my ampero stopped workin... m goin with boss gt1 again since it solves my purpose.. but gx10 is always in my list.. and just like gt1 it'll be in market for quite a long time... there probably in an year or two.. would definately go for gx10..
Thank you for sharing!
With Choptones and firmware updates you can add patches and ir + heads cabs mics and pedals
Thank you for sharing
Can the effects also used as a vst into a daw with one of these pedals?
Hi, no, you can't use these pedalboards like vst in your DAW
Thanks!
Felicidades desde México, una vez mas un video increible con una comparación justa entre cada equipo, felicitaciones!!
Pd los IR de leo son verdaderamente asombrosos! (Visitar su web)
Pd2 la nux mg 30 si puede tener 2 efectos del mismo tipo a la vez (stack)
Thank you so much, and I'm really happy that you appreciate the IRs and the video!!!
Thank you also for sharing the two effects blocks of the NUX...thanks!!!
On the QX10, is there anyway to see the progress of the loop being played/dubbed? From what I can tell, there is no visual indication when the looper is about to repeat.
I think you are right...if someone knows, please drop here a message!
Great work my friend 😊 Please make a review of the Tank G by MVave
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!
I need to purchase one... :)
@@LeoGibsonGtr you will be amazed by what 80$ can get you. It has xlr out, ir loading and possibility to load captures 😀
Love your playing man 💪❤️
Thank you soo much!!!
I got the Tank G and like mine! It's really simple to use and sounds good into an amp if I don't want to play with headphones.
The Matribox and Valeton sounds so bad compared to the other 2.
Boss is definitely the winner tho.
Appreciate your hard work Leo!
I didnt like how any of them sounded, and its strange because usually the Valeton do sound very close to the original ones in the other videos Leo has done.
Thank you for sharing and I'm happy that you appreciate the videos!
Yes, typically they sound very good especialy with Soldano...maybe the plexi is not as good...as for instance it misses the double volume knobs that the plexi has.
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Valeton gp200 best one hands down sounds closer tithe real tube amps boss no balls not punch maybe add boat loads of low and Low mids
The winner is the one with the Midi option, i will never going to buy any modeller without it.
Thank you for sharing!
Leo, thanks a lot for your comparison. Can you add Matrbox 2 Pro to the comparison next time?
You are welcome!
The Matribox 2 pro is in another league in my opinion...it would be worth comparing it to the BOSS GX 100 and not the GX 10...maybe in an upcoming video
Thank you!
Great Review.
Headphone amps reviews,
Boss Katana GO, Fender Mustang Micro Plus?
Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!
All nice ideas....even if I can not buy everything...😀
Do you think you can set up Tone X One to work the midi in and out on the Sonicake? That alone makes it worth more than any of those units. Boss dropped the ball not adding Midi. Maybe they will add midi over usb in a future update.
Hi, the ToneX one does not have MIDI ports, but only MIDI over USB, therefore I guess you would need an external MIDI device with both midi over usb and regular midi ports to drive the ToneX One and the Sonicake.
Thank you
@@LeoGibsonGtr I just discovered what MIDI is. I can code in Arduino and have coded using I2C protocall. This is very simallar to MIDIUSB. I am going to create a dedicated USB to USB midi cable for Tone X One and the Valeton GP-100 :) Basically if the device it talks to a USB remote editor its speaking MIDIUSB.
interesting! Thank you for sharing!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Yeah 6 hours ago I went from not knowing what MIDI was to head exploding learning about the Arduino MIDIUSB library!!!
It's really cool!
Thanks, one question : does any of these come with asio drivers ?
I only know (have) the Nux, and it has an ASIO driver. My guess is that all these units have one...
I seems that most of your comparion videos do not mention how many presets, users memory slots?
Hi, I did in my initial comparisons and then I thought it was not interesting as typically we have hundreds of presets, and some more or some less do not make too much difference. But of course for some of us it may be an interesting information.
Thank you for your suggestion.
I wish there was a stomp version of the Nux MG30
I would say that it is the Amp Academy.
Thanks!
Good comparison. The Valeton sounds very different because of the model you used, which is based on a 60s plexi (UK SLP), the UK800 or UK900 would have better for this comparison, those models are similar to the others you used
The SLP should be the Plexi, where the UK 900 and 800 should be JCM 800 or 900, right?
Thanks!
@LeoGibsonGtr well, in the Valeton they call several models "Plexi". I don't know if that is correct or wrong, but the 800 and 900 sound more modern and closer to the other pedals you compared. The UK SLP in Valeton sounds good for a 60s era amp, but in this context sounds out of place and gives a bad impression of what the Valeton can do. Just my opinion, cheers 🙂
I’m currently finding the Headrush MX5 hard to beat it’s so intuitive & sounds great
Thank you for sharing
15:26 the gp200 (i love mine) tubby where the boss is thin.
That nux has a VERY similar tone to the real one, but, maybe sharper in the mids?
Thank you for sharing your findings
Leo qual plexi vc usou na GP 200 ? Pergunto porque tem varios la e no video esse ta soando bem escuro me parece ser o SLP 59, o UK 50 e o UK 45 seriam mais brilhantes e próximos do amp original e do Gx10 e Nux . Nesse comparativo a Matribox e a Valeton ficaram bem escuras creio que elas tem versoes melhores do plexi.
Hi, I have used the SLP, as it is the model of the original Amp used in the video, which is a Marhall SLP
I tried getting the Van Halen on my GX 100 I do what Eddie did and turn the treble and middle up all the way and it’s sounds very bright and fizzy, I got some celestion IRs and it sounds better
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Please do a comparison video between Donner Arena 2000, Sonicake Matribox 2 pro, Flamma fx200, Valeton GP200 JR and Hotone Ampero 2
Thank you for your suggestion.
NUX sounds the most adequate. Good to see new and smaller companies appear to rival the old ones. Surprised that Boss still can't make convincing processors after their Katana success. Sounds like product from some other company with double O in the name and it's not Mooer.
Thank you for sharing your findings!
@@LeoGibsonGtr i have to say i can't comprehend how your channel have that little subscribers. I'd say it is one of the most useful and valuable guitar channels on YT and in my opinion it deserves much, much, much bigger audience
Thank you !!!
Leo, there is a bit incorect tech spec info:. Boss GX-10 has 4.3 inch screen (not 5 inch, as shown in Your video). However, Boss is really hiding this info :D . I searched the web, and there is no official info on screen size. At BOSS site I fund that screen resolution is the same as GX-100. There several sources, pionting that the screen is the seame as GX-100 , that means it is 4.3 inch.
Ah...thank you for pointing it out!!!
Apmpro stage 2 vs boss gx100 which one sound better
It would be for sure an interesting comparison...I will think about it...
1:14 onwards was a bliss
You are welcome!
Awsome review , you left out the Bluetooth option for the GX10 . Goong to buy one !
Thank you so much!!!
I didn't mention as it is not by the default in the GX 10, but you need to purchase it separately.
in my opinion, in terms of tones, the Nux seems to be the closest of the 4 to the original amp you recorded, the Matribox and the Valeton sound like the pedalboards of 20 years ago.
Thank you for sharing your findings
Nux mg30 realy natural sound
Thank you for sharing !