Franz Xaver Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 1, Op. 14 (1808)

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  • @orangegorilla7550
    @orangegorilla7550 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Franz Xaver Mozart is criminally underrated... I hope he receives the value he deserves in the future

    • @arlettehellemans2117
      @arlettehellemans2117 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As long as every coming pianist wants to record his Paasionata, his Beethoven 5, his Rach 3... that wilm not happen

  • @jasonroberts6666
    @jasonroberts6666 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wonderful. Of course you can't compare him to his legendary father. But no one can surpass Wolfgang Mozart in my opinion.

  • @doreenmusson4891
    @doreenmusson4891 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Unmistakably Wolfgang's son. Beautiful.

  • @daytonlivingston330
    @daytonlivingston330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    4:30 - 5:30 is ABSOLUTELY his father coming through... So incredible.

    • @גבריאל1994
      @גבריאל1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More like Salieri who was his teacher.

  • @artygunnar
    @artygunnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    man, I wish i could give Franz Xaver a pep talk, You are NOT YOUR FATHER! YOU DONT HAVE TO BE! HE LOVES YOU! JUST BE YOU!

  • @iamstillthinking
    @iamstillthinking 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too much unnecessary comparison to his father in the comments. This work stands on its own. Breathtaking, elegant, and obviously innovative in its own way. Simply a beautiful composition.

  • @christinelloyd8775
    @christinelloyd8775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Wonderful to hear Franz Xaver Mozart’s compositions. I’ve always wondered what his compositions would sound like. Living in his Father’s shadow must have been very difficult, but he was known as a very accomplished pianist and I think that his compositions should be kept in the classical repertoires and played at concerts. A fantastic find for me.

    • @intiorozco5063
      @intiorozco5063 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It must have been even more difficult having never known his father.

  • @davidbukowski3463
    @davidbukowski3463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Smiled at that cute part around 3:05 . Fun little piece.

  • @thomasneuber2740
    @thomasneuber2740 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this wonderful music, like father, like son! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @byronsutherland1380
    @byronsutherland1380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Charming piece with traces of his father’s melodic touch in some places.

  • @filibertopierami6892
    @filibertopierami6892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bellissimo concerto che qua e là risuona della bellezza dei concerti viennesi del padre Wolfgang.

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Now this is fascinating... for ages I've been trying to find videos of Mozart's children's works..
    Very much like his father's music, just a tad more exhubrient.

    • @MarkxUK1
      @MarkxUK1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think the opposite: it seems more considered and introverted than W. A. Mozart's concertos.

  • @vinniebarbarino5725
    @vinniebarbarino5725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    He had his Father's style.
    Happy Father's Day.

    • @גבריאל1994
      @גבריאל1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More Salieris style because he was his teacher

    • @vinniebarbarino5725
      @vinniebarbarino5725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Salieri taught him but his Father's style was already in his blood.

    • @younggriff4703
      @younggriff4703 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, sounds like Salieri's music to me

  • @christophedevos3760
    @christophedevos3760 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not too bad, I can imagine it put a lot of pressure on Franz Xaver to be 'the son of', and probably they wanted him to sound his music like his father's as well, but it has its own peculiarities which is quite interesting, also considering the fact that it was another era. Thanks for sharing.

  • @caroleanderson4020
    @caroleanderson4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for including the written music with the audio!

  • @rainerpatalong8403
    @rainerpatalong8403 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Herrliche Musik ❤
    Warum höre und lese ich erst jetzt in der Zeitung davon.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lebhafte und wunderschöne Interpretation dieses spätklassischen und fein komponierten Konzerts mit klarem doch zugleich anmutigem Klang des genialen Soloklaviers sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen der anderen Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt lyrisch. Der ebenso geniale Dirigent leitet das perfekt trainierte Orchester im angemessenen Tempo und mit angenehmer Dynamik. Wahrlich faszinierend!

  • @vincentcassidy2169
    @vincentcassidy2169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Written the same year as Beethoven's 5th symphony, to put things into perspective

    • @gggmarquez5
      @gggmarquez5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Interesting, how advanced was Beethoven works !!!

    • @tmpqtyutmpqty4733
      @tmpqtyutmpqty4733 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He was 17 and Beethoven was 38..

  • @simonkawasaki4229
    @simonkawasaki4229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    The poor FX Mozart... always compared to his father, threatened by his no-nonsense mother to walk perfectly in Wolferl’s footsteps. Nevertheless, he produced a very likable output, as heard here.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Franz tragedy is that his father is so incredibly famous. But we all compare ourselves to our fathers. In best and worst case scenarios the world will.

    • @metteholm4833
      @metteholm4833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It is VERY hard to be the successor of a giant artist parent - be it musician, actor, writer or composer. FX stood up to his challenge! My first impression of him was "an early romantic in classical chain" - but he is more than that.

    • @fedefournier
      @fedefournier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But - just to make some gossip - was it confirmed that W.A. Mozart was his father? There's a theory according to which Franz Xaver's father had the same name and completed W.A. Mozart's Requiem... :-) Ok, just gossip nothing to do with the music

    • @dozie85
      @dozie85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some of his father’s ideas being recycled here. The syncopated quarters from the G minor symphony scratches the surface a bit.

    • @paules3437
      @paules3437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I guess you could say he worked to improve his "sound FX"! hahahahaha

  • @Alleriian
    @Alleriian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    F.X. Mozart is honestly great in his own right, I don't think he should be compared to his father W.A. Mozart at all

  • @hertzair1186
    @hertzair1186 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was brilliant…His father would approve!

  • @matteogritani1635
    @matteogritani1635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Era davvero un ottimo compositore Franz Mozart... non ai livelli del padre, ma molto bravo.

  • @gilesswayne1229
    @gilesswayne1229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The uncredited pianist in this recording is my old friend Klaus Hellwig who is a wonderful human bean. Pity the concerto is so derivative

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Click on the tab "show more" and you will see the credits. You might want to check your spelling as well.

    • @gilesswayne1229
      @gilesswayne1229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bartjebartmans Apologies. I did look at SHOW MORE but missed the credit. Obviously it is unfair to compare with his father . . . he certainly learned a lot from Wolfgang's piano concertos, but this concerto is so much in the Mozartian model that it's really hard to detect an individual voice. But (as someone said) it's a very likeable piece. Klaus Hellwig's cadenzas are EXCELLENT

  • @valeriykhasyanov9011
    @valeriykhasyanov9011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Достойный сын отца замечательная музыка спасибо

  • @owengette8089
    @owengette8089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    is it a sin that I like the second movement of this concerto more than anything from any of Wolfgang’s concerti?

  • @ashishbina
    @ashishbina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    excellent composition, same like his father.

  • @dr.rolfleonhardt6576
    @dr.rolfleonhardt6576 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man sollte Franz Xaver nicht mit seinem Vater vergleichen! Aus diesem Konzert klingt schon die Romantik an, noch mehr in seinem zweiten Konzert! Rolf

  • @d.o.7784
    @d.o.7784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would never touch the keyboard or compose music if my father was the most, most,... most brilliant musician of all times 😒

  • @AnyOldMusic
    @AnyOldMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Nice piece, surprised we don't hear more of the kiddies!

    • @metteholm4833
      @metteholm4833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only ONE kiddy succeeded dad: Frantz Xaver Wolfgang Mozart. His older brother, Karl Thomas tried his hand at music, but it didn´t work out, so he became a book-keeper. The other 4 died as babies.. Vienna had a shocking child mortality rate.

    • @metteholm4833
      @metteholm4833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because only one of Mozarts two surviving kiddies, Franz Xaver made it as a composer. His brother tried music, but ended up choosing another field - as a book-keeper.

  • @_dobas
    @_dobas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Charming

  • @richardcastromartinez4329
    @richardcastromartinez4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Precioso

  • @bloodgrss
    @bloodgrss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes, charming, with touches of his father's style. A bit prolix in the working out (remember the line from Amadeus "too many notes"!?), but the slow movement and finale are gems. Much better than his 2nd attempt; I have always had a soft spot for this concerto. Thanks...

  • @fredericchopin7538
    @fredericchopin7538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Delightful!

  • @loicrenier7619
    @loicrenier7619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Concerto dans le style de...Mozart!

    • @michelealba744
      @michelealba744 ปีที่แล้ว

      C'est bien le cas ! Bravo d'avoir fait ce rapprochement 😃😃😃! Mais est- ce vraiment étonnant ...?
      La composition est toutefois très plaisante, à mon avis ...
      C'est vrai que son père a su créer des pages musicales d'une beauté surnaturelle ... Dans ses concertos, entre autres . " Papa Mozart " était ( quasiment ) dans le domaine du divin ; le fils ne déméritait cependant pas, loin de là !
      Dommage que ses oeuvres ne soient pas plus connues ...et jouées ...!

  • @МарианнаЮматова
    @МарианнаЮматова 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Сын Моцарта, Франц - Ксавьер повторил талант своего отца, но большой прижизненной славы не обрел.

  • @HLsch
    @HLsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That adagio is gorgeous, yes?!

    • @charlottewhyte9804
      @charlottewhyte9804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yes don,t know this work but sure does impress

  • @Jimyblues
    @Jimyblues ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The slow m'vt stands on its own. I think he's more like Haydn than dad.

  • @jfernandoom4119
    @jfernandoom4119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    qué difícil tuvo que ser crecer a la sombra de un gigante...

  • @Walter50
    @Walter50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This really is not a bad work, still I can see why he more or less stopped composing quite early. it must have been quite hopeless to realize how much better his fathers work in the same vein are and still try to achieve something similar.

  • @wolfgangamademozart5946
    @wolfgangamademozart5946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gorgeous! So free. A good thirty years ahead of its time, too. Honestly, his epitaph should have been about him, not his father (not least because that is, well, the point of an epitaph, especially for someone this accomplished). Had I been there to say anything about that, I would have just said, "Excuse me, I need to go choke a b****."

  • @j-md-v8376
    @j-md-v8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    C'est comme Bach et ses fils excellents compositeurs mais écrasés par le génie du père.

    • @christophedevos3760
      @christophedevos3760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Non pas du tout écrasés, dans son temps CPE Bach par exemple était plus connu que son père et il a développé son propre style qui est assez important pour l'histoire de la musique.

  • @peter5.056
    @peter5.056 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like this is the direction WA Mozart was headed, had he lived to old age,

  • @Rasmus_Schweden
    @Rasmus_Schweden ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ich finde man sollte nicht immer den Vater mit dem Sohn vergleichen. Franz ist ein eigener Komponist und nur das sollte zählen. Ich finde seine Kompositionen ausgezeichnet Erasmus aus Schweden 🤞🎹🎹🎹👋

  • @andreagriseri7656
    @andreagriseri7656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The second movement is charming! Mistery, the echoes of the Adagio from k 488 but in a balance between classicism and romanticism. A bit weak the development in which his father Wolfgang and his friend Haydn were impassable

  • @elmiramuradova561
    @elmiramuradova561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ths piece more like Wolfgang sister's music ) So beautiful.

    • @thomasjefferson6599
      @thomasjefferson6599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really? This is more reminiscent to me of the senior Wolfgang Mozart.

    • @iianneill6013
      @iianneill6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "There is evidence that Marianne wrote musical compositions, as there are letters from Wolfgang praising her work, but the voluminous correspondence of her father never mentions any of her compositions, and none have survived" Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Anna_Mozart

  • @Shost7
    @Shost7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Rondò is so charming but it seems very hard to play

  • @mrJohnDesiderio
    @mrJohnDesiderio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Mozart family charm!

  • @cpbytheresa
    @cpbytheresa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If I were Mozart senior, after hearing Mozart junior writing something like this, I would definitely say something like this:
    “Son, from the works you did, I am sure you are extremely talented. You definitely inherited the music genius from me and I’m glad that you pursued the path I did. But please remember this: You are an individual and you have your own personality. You have your own experience of life and, thus, you have your own style of music. Please don’t copy mine. No matter what others are saying, just ignore them. You don’t need to be me. Be yourself and write your own style of music.”
    Poor FX Mozart, please just be yourself.

  • @Fumozart
    @Fumozart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Clearly F.X. Mozart did not inherit the perfection and balance from his father. But his compositions are still as amazing!

    • @edeliteedelite1961
      @edeliteedelite1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is also believed that he may not have actually been his son but rather Frans Xavier Sussmayr's.

    • @Fran-pd8df
      @Fran-pd8df หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edeliteedelite1961 No, the son inherited the same ear deformity that his father had, so it is impossible.

  • @kasajizo3136
    @kasajizo3136 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    his daddy sure influenced his music style a lot

  • @juanramonsilva1067
    @juanramonsilva1067 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how Franz Xaver modeled his compositions after, because while this sound a tad bit like his father it’s also very different, it’s quite technical with the scales and arpeggios, a little czerny like, what do you think?

  • @canalmeireesren5692
    @canalmeireesren5692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Muito bem parecido com o pai.

  • @foolim1
    @foolim1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    光る物がある

  • @marceloluis4000
    @marceloluis4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Increíble, el formato de la partitura parece de W. A. Mozart. Sorpredente.

  • @RPe-jk6dv
    @RPe-jk6dv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    franz xaver war seines vaters würdig.

  • @yardrail3432
    @yardrail3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fabulous! I wonder if the Mozart family line continues still?

    • @iSlicer
      @iSlicer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, unfortunately both of Mozart's sons who survived childhood died childless.

    • @yardrail3432
      @yardrail3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iSlicer I thank you Stephen with Best Wishes to you and yours.

    • @Rasmus_Schweden
      @Rasmus_Schweden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nein leider nicht. Mozart hatte sechs Kinder. Bis auf zwei sind alle gestorben. Franz war der jüngste der beiden Söhne er selber hatte keine Kinder. Mit seinem Tod wurde die Linie beendet. Rasmus aus Schweden 🎹🎹🎹🎓

  • @rafaelmucci1072
    @rafaelmucci1072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Este concierto, me da la impresión, de que fue compuesto por Wolfgang y no por el hijo. Tiene todas las características del estilo del padre. Es una opinión muy personal.

    • @marceloluis4000
      @marceloluis4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Te doy toda la razón.La composición es muy del padre.

    • @marceloluis4000
      @marceloluis4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @violamateo Ya se que Mozart ya había fallecido hace como 20 años antes. Pero la composición de la partitura del primer movimiento tiene mucho del padre. Si no me crees, comparalo con las sonatas de W. A. Mozart.

  • @gggmarquez5
    @gggmarquez5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it me or what??? as good as it is when u duplicate or dub a recording there always a loss in quality. Make no mistake it’s beautiful but and sounds very much like his father but without some of those catchy Melodie’s and passionate passages that u hear in Mozart composition. I guess I expected a higher rendition of Mozart where the genius is recognize quickly. Again no disrespect, fantastic music and talent that is amazing. I can’t imagine having this talent but definitely short when compared to his father. I guess Mozart was truly the top of his class forever! Lol

  • @vksasdgaming9472
    @vksasdgaming9472 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He was taught by Salieri.

  • @stephenpotter4063
    @stephenpotter4063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even though F. X. Mozart’s Piano Concerto In C Major carries his famous father’s influence, there is originality throughout, e.g., FX composed this work for an 88-key equal-temperament-tuned piano.

  • @dmitrysofronov8624
    @dmitrysofronov8624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dash it... I'm gonna love these more than Wolfgang's concertos.

  • @warrencohen8246
    @warrencohen8246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know who wrote the cadenzas?

  • @ivanigorpollick6690
    @ivanigorpollick6690 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pleasant music to the ears... But

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eh!

  • @hjo4104
    @hjo4104 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:49 Eroica?

  • @omegads3862
    @omegads3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the second movement is not like his father,

  • @rodstartube
    @rodstartube ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear Salieri

  • @mishibird
    @mishibird 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The performance is unfortunately very pedestrian. Makes the work sound weaker than it is.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Let me know if you know a better performance.

    • @reamartin6458
      @reamartin6458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1.25 fixes the problem

  • @wenchaodu1235
    @wenchaodu1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too many notes

  • @miguelsuarez8010
    @miguelsuarez8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mmmh... sounds like a poor copy of his father's work. No hint of personality of his own.

    • @davidgleba3832
      @davidgleba3832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, he was only 16 or 17 years old when he wrote this concerto...