The One Season Of Community Worse Than Season Four
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For many, the worst season of Community is Season 4, also known as The Gas Leak Year. Many Community fans would like to forget that Season 4 exists all together after creator Dan Harmon was not involved, but there is one season of Community that is far worse. When NBC decided not to pick up the hit sitcom, it transitioned to another streaming service, only to fail miserably. Did they green light a final season just to meet the in-joke of "Six Seasons and a Movie", or did they actually think they could reignite the fire?
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@nerdstalgic are a bunch of fakers/liars that make fake videos for for views credits!
I’m tired of so called “deadhead buffons” fakers like you for falsely making misinformation videos like your called “Adult Animation in the USA” Video you did several weeks ago when you don’t know BS about The animation Industry including calling some Adult animation shows “ugly” but you did a video on “Why Futurama is better than the Simpsons” video and then you pointless “Where our USA’s version of anime like Millennium Actress/Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken!” speech when NEVER DID a so-called anime Essay Video. For a guy Talking about Adult animation, and using a Arnold from Hey Arnold as it wallpaper/icon, YOU A FULL OF BS LIKE QAnon! If you going to make “truly” Video Essay, stop making LIES about animation Industry, you Kippe brain or the thousands of morons that watch that videos dont know 1 cent about anime or the American animation industry!
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f this QANon BS that is @Nerdstalgic! and it brainwashing 💩💩💩💩heads that watch their videos!
Now here's a man who knows how to be wrong in a Community video.
Hahah perfect. I think he just has Changnesia.
yeh he kinda Britta'd this
@@jesterssketchbook getting rid of Nerdstalgic, getting rid of the... N? Sounds very wrong lol
Why?
I actually really like season 6. I would argue that it's better viewed as a sort of tragic, yet mature send off to a show that, rather than having lost its identity, is instead forging an entirely new one, all while saddeningly having to bid farewell.
Also Jeff and Annie's relationship is layered and well-written and *tragic* and I love it and I'll die on this hill.
Yeah, what does he mean forced relationship...? The scene he shows is specifically them NOT having a relationship.
@@cloudkittit's an older man in his 20s or 30s with a woman younger than him.
@@cloudkitt The show kept throwing out plotlines so Jeff can pine for a woman he met when she was 18 and he was 35
@@xandertrejoIt is a very realistic dynamic, whether you care to admit it or not
There's nothing wrong with season 6 and season 4 is great, just repeating the same tired opinions that are common on the internet, same as "season 1 of Parks and Rec/The Office are bad" - both statements untrue and circlejerked over and over
Season 6 is definitely different and you really feel the loss of the cast members. That being said it had some great jokes in it, much more memorable bits than anything in season 4, none of which I can remember
The only ones I rewatch are the Halloween Episode (because I watch them all every season, but I actually enjoy it) and the one with Brie Larson at the dance. The rest are unremarkable.
The Sophie B. Hawkins episode is great, one of the best Britta episodes in the show.
Season 6 has Elroy and Frankie Dart. Season 4 has nothing but Herstory of Dance
@@TheBonVivant_Your pfp suggests that you have the sitcom tastes of a five star man.
Season 4's freaky friday episode was great. The rest of the season... was mediocre at best and sometimes painfully bad.
I gotta say Frankie and Elroy are two of my favorite characters in the show. Really unique and fun addition that really shook up the established dynamic. Wish they were around for longer or introduced in an earlier season, they could’ve really made an impact. It’s like if Parks and Rec introduced Ben and Chris in the last season
The humble newcomers who came in and nailed it
I mean I don’t really like them as replacement characters in the show but Elroy is the arbiter, you can’t hate him
I'd rather watch six seasons and a movie of Elroy than a five minute compilation of Pierce. Love me some Keith David.
The Gas Leak Year isn't amazing, but I don't think it's as bad as people say.
I’ve been saying this for years. It’s still really good TV, even if it’s not quite as good as other seasons.
Yeah, at least it still more or less felt like Community. The same can’t really be said for season 6…
It’s literally not
Agree.
I absolutely hated it on my original watch, but when I rewatched the whole series a while ago I was waiting for the moment where I started hating season 4 and it just sort of never came.
Season 4 is a lot more watchable than people give it credit for, and while it clearly isn't as good as seasons 1-3 it holds up surprisingly well (and far better than season 6, even though that too has its moments).
I'm glad to see people disagreeing. I don't think season 6 is given enough credit
The final joke of the season with the scripted family was really funny though.
That was good.
I can partially agree with the idea that the show goes through its biggest change in season 6. Abed even says it in the first episode of that season when meeting Frankie, that this was once a found family show now turned into a more grounded sitcom. To me, that's Harmon acknowledging that this season is going to have to be different in order to work. At this point, they're no longer taking classes together and are just sort of doing whatever. So yeah, to me it is the least satisfying to watch of the five Harmon seasons, even though it has some pretty standout moments (the first episode, the paintball episode, the wedding episode, the finale). It's just a good crop of episodes, lacking the same heart it had earlier in its run. I can't really fault anyone for that because it was an impossible task to recreate the previous magic. I think they did the best with what they had and it is still a pretty enjoyable season.
That being said it's so much better than season 4. In your next video, compare the season finale's of season 4 and 6. Then try and tell me how season 6 is worse.
While I agree with you on the first part, the last part is a cop out because season 6 was to end the whole show and the Nerdstalgic team openly admitted that the finale was a good episode. Do not let appearances fool you. The fact that Jeff and Pierce are the only ones who graduate at the end of season 4 and the fact that Abed alludes to Jeff coming back as a teacher in the season 4 finale shows that there was some intention for a season 5.
That said the biggest problem with season 6 is the decline of Jeff Winger's character (and the increased flanderization of Britta but that requires its own paragraph and is no better in season 4). Let's be real. His arc was over in season 4 and he just went downwards after that.
@@henrypeters5291Season 4 was also supposed to work as a series finale, characters literally graduate from Greendale, including it’s lead Jeff. Comparing the finales i think is fitting in showing how flat 4 falls compared to the creativity in the writing for 6.
@@divekingfan7150 Again, they only did that with two characters and Abed literally predicted that Jeff would come back as a teacher. At the bare minimum, they were trying to keep the door open for a season 5.
Once Troy left, nothing was the same. Everyone says Abed is who pulled the group together. But without Troy, Abed would have ended up being an annoying stereotypical cast member who is on the autism spectrum but who no one admits is on the spectrum. He would just be someone they put up with like the cat did with Chevy Chase's character because they all literally hated him. Troy sailed off with the soul of the show.
@@henrypeters5291I agree mostly with you, season 6’s finale was a way easier task than season 4s. I would disagree that season 4s finale was at all a good episode though. I think season 6 is on even keel with season 4 for me but it’s a silly comparison to make. Season 6 Harmon is working with 4/7 of the original cast and having to shoe horn the dean, Chang and 2 completely new characters into try to put together some kind of group dynamic. Season 4 writers had the original cast and only managed maybe 3 or 4 half decent episodes out of 13. Had Harmon had the full original cast for 13 episodes he would’ve made a far better season than the season 4 writers.
Harmon for sure makes mistakes post season 4 though which people sometimes try too hard to make excuses for, he’s not a perfect writer and seemed to be extremely thrown off his mojo by limitations put on him post season 3.
I watched season 6 basically on repeat when I was graduating college and felt adrift and lost.... It brought me comfort knowing that change is inevitable and it's okay to move on.
You're streets behind, Nerdstalgic. Season 6 is much better than a lot of people realise.
8:43 Forced romantic relationship? How? It's been been building since season 1. And it's not a "relationship", they don't become a couple.
IMO it felt forced since season 1. It seems I’m mostly alone in feeling that, but it bothered me from the beginning. I had no problem with the writers moving on from Jeff and Britta and deciding not to do romance between the main group of characters. But because it’s where the show started from the pilot, the chemistry between Jeff and Britta always felt much more natural, until they made Britta into too much of a punching bag
I think Jeff and Annie had amazing chemistry and I always thought they should've ended up together. The only weird part was the age difference but Jeff was emotionally a child and Annie grew up quickly throughout the early seasons.
I disagree with season 6 being boring, but that's because I've always seen season 6 as a parody of the rest of the show. It's not as insane as seasons 2 and 3, and it's not as deep or intensely funny as parts of season 5 (like Troy leaving or the ACB episode), but it just seem like the writers and cast are goofing off one last time before we really say goodbye. It's Dan Harmon's Irish goodbye.
Hundred percent! Damn Nerdstalgic, I've disagreed with some of your takes before but never as strongly as this one. As someone who's watched the whole show through a few times, and seasons 1-3 at least 5 or 6 times, Season 6 is one of my favourites.
Yeah, it's pretty different from season 2-3, and I didn't really get it the first time through. But every time I've seen it I've loved it more. It feels like a season made for the people like me who have seen the show so much it forms half the wiring in their brain, and it plays around a lot with the whack-ass expectations we have about the show (which are whack-ass because the show was already playing with our expectations from watching other media).
So many bits throughout the entire run that killed me! Leonard's "tears in rain" moment always pops into my head. I cried at the end of the giant hand episode. And my god, the series finale really hit me hard. Cried like a baby. The whole thing felt like an extremely personal journey.
I'm hoping our boy reads some of these comments and sees some of what people love about this season.
Don't remember having any of your impressions, neither with S1 nor S6. Britta became the punching bag long before the last season, it was even acknowledged more than once in the show. Paget Brewster character was criminally underrated, she had some amazing scenes with the dean. I'll have to rewatch it to see if I agree with anything you've said (I'm on S4 rewatch right now, it has its moments).
I love Elroy too. I wish they had been additions rather than replacements. That bring said, I didn't miss Pierce.
Man, I adore Community. Can't wait for the movie.
Is it confirmed??
@@Bendover69694 yes, it is going to be streaming on peacock. There is no current release date as far as ive known
@@jacobogato7892 I'll add that it's been listed as being in pre-production or whatever on IMDb for a while now, but on the other hand, that doesn't necessarily mean anything either. Oh! Donald Glover is listed as taking part, which is an important thing -- obviously Chevy Chase, being a dead character who is hated by everyone involved with the show anyhow, will *not* be taking part.
@@KenLieck Which is unfortunate. Chevy couldve really made a comeback with pierce but he let his own ego (amongst other things) get in the way. At least we have the troy and abed relationship (hopefully) which was a highlight of the first 3 seasons
Personally, I liked season 6. There are valid points here for sure, but in general I enjoyed S6, especially the wedding episode. I also thought Frankie and Elroy were funny characters played by great actors.
Now there's a man who knows who knows how to enjoy a season of television
The sixth season literally has one of the best episodes with the wedding but season six has so many great bits there’s a couple lows but does not out way.
Now that's a man that knows how to marry his cousin
I love the virtual reality episode
I love the wedding episode
I couldn’t disagree more. Season 6 has great moments and it feels natural. They don’t attempt to string on anything, it feels like watching people in your life grow…
Ok this video has to just be rage-baiting, but I'll fall for it. Frankie and Elroy are fantastic characters (who I hope show up in the movie), and Season 6 is criminally underrated and eons better than Season 4.
Now THIS is a man who knows how to marry his cousin!
(also you could at least pronounce Gillian Jacobs' name correctly)
I agree they really were underrated characters
i firmly disagree with the premise of this video. good video just the same
Thank you!
Season 6 is kinda different from the others speciailly due to the characters changes and pacing (cause of the longer runtime) but it's still great! The worst episode of S6 maybe still better than half of S4 episodes despite its difficulties. The last three episodes are among the best of the whole show. Frankie and Elroy were excellent additions. It has its flaws, it's not better than seasons 1, 2, 3 or 5, but it is definitely an underrated season.
He's too busy slanging clickbait to learn anything.
Exactly, and he tries to frame it like it’s an accepted fact within the fan base or something. Season 6 is awesome.
The Monopoly Ad feels like a parody. Never heard anyone talk so excited about this game 😂
Is it a tribute to the Community game ad in the final episode?
Haha. I cackled too when I heard that. I was like "Okay, I know you gotta do this...but it's frikkin monopoly bro."
Hard disagree Nerdstalgic. The ‘identity’ of the show is to be a weird emotional COMEDY. Season 4 is bad comedy that mascarades as Community. Season 6 is a natural evolution. And what I Like about Harmon is he let the show change, it had too! Actors and writers changed! So the world changed, people left. Frankly it’s more genuine than most sitcoms. Rather than faking the same feeling he let the show be darker and stranger
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Season 6 wasn't their best, but it's still streets ahead of the gas leak year.
But FIRST like the video?! After you drop that bomb of a hot take on us we are supposed to like before we know if we agree or not? The timing for that plug is hilarious to me
I mean the dean in VR still makes me laugh
Jesus wept
This is nonsense. S6 is HILARIOUS largely because it's so out of pocket, and Frankie and Elroy are amazing additions. The Dean VR and guerilla marketing episodes are in my top 10..
How does it feel to be in the 1%?
@@msushi98 I've always been exceptional so it's nothing new
I completely agree and love the VR episode so much.
I don't just dislike this take because I enjoy season 6 -- I fundamentally disagree with it because season 6 is actually the perfect natural progression of the core themes of the show and conclusion for its protagonist.
The entirety of Community was always about accepting the place you're in and making it a real home, regardless of what setbacks you face or what imperfections arise in your current situation or even how that place might, itself, change in time. Jeff starts off as a smarmy lawyer hell-bent on restoring his law degree and smarm and subsequently getting back to exactly where he was. Over the course of the first three seasons, he learns to accept that situations and people can change for the better, and that the school that he once saw as an embarrassing means to an end can actually be a more nourishing home than anything he's ever known if he just lets it be. By season 5, he's come to love this new home and unabashedly cares for the people in it, but starts to worry about the impermanence of the setup and, by extent, life. His answer to that anxiety is to artificially engineer a situation in which he can keep his friends and world static. It works for a while, but even in season 5, the cracks are starting to show. It's unsustainable. It's a pipe dream.
Season 5 ends on a false high, and I love that season 6 starts off gloomier than ever. What looked like a victory was actually a band-aid solution to a truth that isn't even a problem: we all grow and change. Jeff is getting older and entering a new phase in life. So are his friends, albeit different phases -- phases Jeff already had the pleasure of going through. Season 6 sees the quiet acceptance of the hard truth that you will make meaningful connections in life with some people who will stay and some people who won't. It also makes the point that being a member of a community is more than just being part of a set group of people united by a common goal; it's a baseline acknowledgment of humanity and a willingness to meet people and situations on their terms and put in the elbow grease to make them *your* people and situations.
I know that much of the material that supports this argument (Troy/Shirley being absent, the dimmer feeling of Greendale, the general struggle to maintain a consistent quality and thematic throughline of a show that changed hands at an integral moment) is more BTS than creative decision making, but I don't care. I adore the show, and feel that the final season was a perfectly bittersweet cap on its core ideas and messaging.
At least until this goddamn movie comes out.
Season 4 was mostly forgettable, though it did have a few bright spots, notably the Sophie B. Hawkins episode and Brie Larson guest starring. I liked that they poked fun of this season in later episodes.
Community was such a great show that it could go completely to sh*t and still be fantastic!
I really liked Brie Larsen in that role, but the fact that it was Brie Larsen kind of undercut any hopes one might have had for that relationship developing, because you knew Brie Larsen was too big a star at that point to be on the show regularly
Who was Brie Larson? It’s been a while since I saw the show
@@KolonelCeandersRachel, abeds gf
@@expiredmilk5435 oh yeah
I loved Frankie and Elroy I think the writers did a great job at incorporating them to the cast
With all due respect... S6 was a great season
It’s interesting that you would lean on the idea of identity for a season when S4’s entire identity is regurgitating jokes and storylines from the 3 that preceded it. Can any of you remember any jokes from S4 that wasn’t just repeating previous bits?
pierce's haunted house episode? and not every joke from every show is ever original, not arguing or anything i just personally didn't think season 6 was any better or worse than season 4
Britta’s “…So?” is literally one of my favorite moments in the season tho
I disagree. Season 6 was a gem. So touching, and the new characters fit in okay. Rare L take from Nerdstalgic imo.
I reporteded you because you're wrong.
Season 6 feels like a return to the more grounded show from Season 1. It definitely gets stronger on a rewatch.
I always thought season 6 was off but i still kind of like the episode where they make a movie with one scene of chang
As I said above in reference to season 4, Community was such a great show that it could go completely to sh*t and still be fantastic!
Best episode of the final season
I still appreciate Season 6 on its own terms. A lot of your [points are accurate; the prolonged runtime hurts several episodes, Abed was severely flanderized there's some skippable moments, and you miss the rest of the cast but I appreciate the building darker tone that really makes emotional moments like the Honda episode punch, Elroy and Frankie are fun new characters. And that finale always hits. Jeff's alcholoism was built up in the prior season in RePilot and the G.I. Joe episode so it doesn't feel completely out of left field. Season 4 is over hated but its still the worse to me.
I have strongly disagree!! Season 6 gets a lot less credit than it deserves. As Frankie said in the pilot, "Good shows change." While nowhere close to the original's dynamic, Elroy and Frankie were great additions to the cast. Community evolved to explore the characters better with a dose of reality this time around but it never lost it's charm that made it special!! Return to D&D, Final Paintball, Britta's heartbreak, Garret's wedding and of course the excellent touching finale
Season 6 is a bit bloated, but the jokes are still strong and the final three episodes are up there with the very best. Season 4, however, feels like people trying to write a season of Community, but not ever finding what made it special in the first place.
The reason the gas leak year is so hated is because we just came off 3 of the best seasons of TV ever made! PEAK TV. I dont think season 6 was bad, i liked it, I hought it was good just in a different way.
“Jeff…Winger…you son of a b!tch” is seriously top 10 lines of the show for me
Dude, you're wrong. The gas leak year is still worse.
Yeah looks like there was a gas leak where ever Nerdstalgic wrote the script for this video.
I love the channel but he missed with this one, Elroy might be my favorite character 😂
Season six is what happens when everything changes and try to make the best of a bad situation. It's not as good as the first 3 seasons but it was more experimental. Since there were new writers on the show, OF COURSE situations would be different in universe.
The Gas Lit Year was bad, but not as bad as your transition to the Monopoly Add. That was reaaaaally bad.
Honestly, the DVD commentary from season 1 was funnier than the actual show in season 4
Whenever I watched the show. I didn't know anything about the background behind the development. So I couldn't tell how any of the seasons were different and they're all very good to me. when people say that a certain season is bad, I have no idea what they're talking about.
I've never disagreed with one of this channel's videos until now. Season 6 was great. The wedding episode and the espionage paintball episode are two of the series best. Frankie and Elroy fit in so organically throughout the season, and the finale was perfect even with the lost cast members. Nowhere near as bad as season 4
When I first watched gommunity and came to the 6th season I didn't really like it off the cuff, but when rewatched the show i actually really enjoyed that season and felt its somewhat more somber tone very fitting. It felt like we watched the characters grow up, and also for me it always seemed liek the lighting was a bit brighter, while having a bit more colaer ligning if that makes sense, which made it feel more optimistic, like there is finally light at the end lf the long tumultues tunnel that was the whacky time they have spend at communkty. And you are happy to see how the characters have grown but it's also a bit bittersweet because you know that soon you will have to say goodbye to these characters, which is incapsulated perfectly in the ending episode which is so insanely funny, and heartfelt imo. And as you see Jeff say goodbye to Abed you can really feel how much he and the rest of the crew have changed Jeffs life and how much he actually love then, which is why it's hard for him to say good ye to them, but again also why he isn't sad to see them go since they are pursuong what will make them happy which os what love is really about, ensuring that the ones that matter to you are happy even when that means letting them go. And this bittersweet sendoff is also a perfect incasling of how it feels for us the viewers. We can relate to how Jeff feels so well, because it mirrors how we also now have to say goodbye to this show and these characters which we have grown to love, since nothing lasts forever and it's not really something that it should strive to either since it while inevitable only result in the magic being lost. I truly believe that this shows ending is so great at conveying all of this while also giving a really insightfull look into Harmons mind and (for the lack of a better word) soul. It's just such a great sendoff to a once in a lifetime show, and it's honestly kind of miracoulous that we got such a season after all. So thank you for that Harmon.
I actually agreed with a lot of what this video said when I first watched season 6, but over time I really grew to appreciate it. It was obviously very different (how could it not be), but I think they did a really great job given the things they had to navigate. I think the bigger mistake would have been trying to replicate the older seasons despite the missing cast and the way the characters had moved out of a study group being a reasonable glue for them. They embraced the changes and really made the best of it, in my opinion. Also, the finale still has the power to demolish me on every watch lol.
yeah, like i think it could've gone better after the trouble started, but they did what they could
Season 6 is way better than Season 4
I'm surprised you didn't mention the brief appearance of Buzz Hickey as a temporary member of the group until he suddenly disappeared in season 6
Gas leak year is not as bad as everyone says, and Frankie and Elroy are excellent additions! I loved S6
Now THIS is a man who knows how to clickbait!
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Paget Brewster was great! I hope she comes back for the movie 🤞🏼
I'm gonna be honest, I started watching the show in december, right now I'm at season 5, and I Can't say I find most seasons memorable in a sense where I don't remember what event happened in season 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. I remember the episode with the six timelines, but I don't remember in what season it happened. The only things I remember were the classes they used to take, and Chang is the anchor I use to be able to place the seasons... if an event happened when Chang was a spanish teacher, it was season 1, if it happened when he was a student, it was season 2, if it happened when he was a security guard, season 3, if he had changnesia, season 4, but in season 5 he's just there.
But for example, the episode with the KFC space rocket, I know it happened, but I don't know in which season.
This season kinda feels like S9 of scrubs, I just get that vibe.
I’m so proud of this community, season 6 is great, not perfect, but still great. And definitely streets ahead of the gas leak year.
I disagree with this take entirely, season 6 is definitely different but it has more soul in it than season 4 did in terms of characters acting like themselves, as well as showing the ways the characters have changed and evolved, and it touches on some sad topics like the end of the show and how different it is
Hot take: I think the worst episode of this season was the paintball episode. The message of how the paintball battles are stupid and should be a thing of the past felt wrong. If they did that in season 2 or 3, I might have bought it, but it was the 6th and final season. It was a little too late for the show to start waving it’s finger at the audience. Plus, one of the most special things about Greendale was how weird it was. Saying that that weirdness was one of the problems with Greendale that needed to stop did not sit right with me at all.
I'm actually surprised to see this. Most people I've seen place season 6 above S4, and often above S5 as well (due, in large part, to the strength of Frankie who is really well liked). Personally, I rank the seasons: 2>3>1>6>5>4
This is my ranking as well.
S6 still has some gold episodes. S4 is completely forgettable though.
Bad take is bad and you should feel bad. Season 6 is phenomenal and Frankie and Elroy are some of the best characters in the show.
y'know, it's okay to be wrong. There are a few episodes in the middle of the season that suck, the hacker episode, the ipad prisoners episode, but by and large, it's got the same cleverness that defined the best seasons of the show. Wedding videography is an all-timer, the gay dean episode was incredibly prescient for its time, and the finale is heartfelt and true to what the show was always meant to be.
Nerdstalgic has got to be one of the only successful TH-cam channels where the comment section is almost entirely people saying that they disagree with the channel's take on xyz subject. It's weird; the videos are well-produced and well-written but I always walk away from them frustrated at how they seem to have missed the magic of whatever they were discussing.
Community season 6 is like that feeling of being in your post-college years/mid-30s, in that sad, uncertain, nostalgic place, between the carefree days of seeing your friends all the time, and the full entry into adulthood when you know you'll all have drifted apart eventually...
I have watched the entire series about 20 times and I always have this demotivation around the end of season 4 and halfway through five. I have never quite been able to put it into words as to why, but this vid definitely helps contextualize some of that. Especially in regards to season six. There are fun episodes in season six and the new characters I actually liked, but you're right. the format changed leaving out the soul that the first three had, and to a lesser extend 4 and 5. Its really terrible how what became of what I consider as one of the best series of all time. I still love Community, but I cant help but think what might have been.
Bamboozled!!! I for sure thought this was about season 4.
JESUS WEPT
I guess this is your “hot take” huh? Season 6 has a lot of heart and it’s damn funny. Couldn’t disagree more
A lot of bait all tied around a monopoly go ad. Thanks nerdstalgic, ya reaaaaaally got me
Yeah, gonna have to say this video is wrong. It does make some valid criticisms of season 6 but saying it’s worse than 4 is wrong. The main reasons season 6 felt off were the longer episode run times and the missing group members. Frankie and Elroy were pretty good additions though. I do agree that since this was their 6th year there - having to come up with reasons to keep everyone there also might’ve hurt the season but season 4 didn’t have any of those issues and still felt off and not very good. Season 6 had several challenges to overcome and still felt more inline than 4 did.
Nerdstalgic: season 6 is awful
Literally everyone else: wtf do you mean
It was just a quick point but I think you misinterpreted the bit about britta's parents. They are terrible people that were awful to britta and they continue to be by gaslighting her about the things they did when she was younger and insisting that none of it happened and they're better now. The rest of the group likes them because of the polite front they put up and the money they give, but at the core they're bad parents who are trying to erase their bad parenting without accepting responsibility or apologizing to britta
Yep, agree. I actually liked the study group less after seeing how they treated Britta regarding her parents. Britta was so understanding of them when it came to their problems with their parents, and even actively helped several of them
yeah, this episode/plotline with her parents becomes WAY worse once you learn about britta’s not-so-secret childhood trauma. it makes annie and abed look like straight up villains
I’m not sure if I agree.
The thing about Community is that I’m willing to say that there was never a “bad” season. There are simply seasons that weren’t as good as others.
Season 6 didn't feel like Community honestly, mainly due to the missing core cast members. But Season 6 gave us some of the most memorable lines and quips, mostly from Frankie. - Drama and conflict are exciting and easy. Making a difference can be pretty boring
The only complaint I have for S6 is probably the poor lighting
Wow, this is actually worse than I expected - but I feel like you deserve credit for what you got right, which is that season 6 was obligatory. It 100% was. You'll never hear Harmon say it out loud but it's very clear that he was essentially going out of his way to fulfill the prophecy he wrote for himself.
Everything else in this video is either factually inaccurate or an opinion I disagree with - Chevy Chase did NOT get fired for saying racist things to Donald Glover, I can't tell if the "beefed up" description about Keith David + Paget Brewster means you think they were already characters in the show but they weren't, Jeff being an alcoholic was not some revelation they had never mentioned before (dude literally lands himself in the hospital for drinking w/pills the season prior) Britta being a "punching bag" has been leaned on so heavily for so long that it literally gets called out in the first script Harmon wrote when he came back... It's just such an aggressively bad take - ridiculous statements like "the finale is only good because it's propped up by the performances of the actors" should be ridiculous on it's face because SEASON 4 USED THE SAME ACTORS - you think the difference is work ethic rather than the material they're performing?? Also w/r/t the finale, you're either just not familiar with the show or being blatantly dishonest by suggesting they "forced" a Jeff and Annie romance and then showing one clip of them kissing, that's a resolution to a much more complicated storyline that spanned all 6 seasons and you're making it out like they rode off into the sunset together.
I have much, much more to say about this but it's not worth wasting a day typing out to someone who doesn't care - I don't know if you write these yourself or just perform them, but if someone else submitted this I would double check their work from now on because absolutely NOTHING in this video serves as evidence to the very bold claim that S6 is worse than S4. If you're going to make that statement maybe back it up with some comparisons, rather than just listing reasons why you didn't like S6 and hoping people have forgotten enough of S4 that they connect the dots in their own minds. It's lazy at best, dishonest at worst, and the reason I'm unsubscribing - I have no problem debating the quality of Community, that's half the fun of fandom, but authoritatively stating that S6 is the worst season and then listing a bunch of flaws that S4 is just as guilty of is bullshit clickbait that I will not continue to support. All the best.
Nobody want's to play monoploy.
I still want to see a movie....
Season 6 is probably my first or second favorite season lol
Gillian Jacobs's first name is pronounced with a hard G, like in Gilligan, not a soft G, like you do it here (and like Gillian Anderson from the X-Files has her named pronounced). Jacobs shared that her mom pronounced it with a hard G from her birth, but doesn't know why she made that choice.
I've never met a community fan with this take on season 6. congrats, I guess
season 6 has some of the most funniest moments. Elroy is a goddamn gem!
I’m not even really mad at this video. I’m mad that the voice over’s favorite board game is Monopoly. Monopoly is the Gas Leak Year of board games.
L take on Annie and Jeff, and the finale. Has way more soul than this sold out channel
I can understand people not being a huge fan of S6 (I personally love it), but to call it worse than gasleak year is just counter factual.
Your opinion on season six is streets behind.
That's amazing. Every word you just said was wrong.
Hard disagree, the hardest laughs of the entire show were Frankies line "Do you know what a rhetorical...? No of course you don't your an idiot." And the Dean's line "But isn't that more about the shape of your brain Abed? I mean no offence or anything but isn't the shape of your brain kinda fucked up?"
Gotta say, really disagree with this one. Season 6 is the second worst season, it's weird and kinda feels like a TH-cam series sometimes, but it's commitment to making each episode unique and special far outshines the washed out sitcom version that we saw in season 4. There were certainly some stinkers in season 6, but in season 4 it's more accurate to say that it had a few really good ones (and I say that as someone who doesn't think that season 4 was so awful.) And in terms of group dynamic, Jeff became a teacher in season 5, and they leaned more heavily on Chang and Duncan in that season as well, so that had already changed. Also, I grew plenty attached to Frankie and Elroy, Brewster and David played their roles endearingly and it paid off. Both season 4 and season 6 can be described as "just fine," but season 6 feels more like it's leaning into what made the show what it was in the early seasons, as opposed to season 4's attempt to make a more relatable and safe sitcom.
A good video idea as an extension of this - would be an analysis of why the final episode of Season 6 made the rest of the boring episodes worth getting through.
The only reason why people started hating season four so much was because Dan Harmon and the show itself started making fun of how bad it was.
An ad for Monopoly, now that's Inception levels of capitalism right there
I am a newcomer to your channel. I think your videos are great, you have a talent for analysing and picking apart things. I really do enjoy your content!
That said, this isn't just a bad opinion, but factually incorrect. Season 6 creates a new status quo, and has some incredible gags. it was also capturing an evolving zeitgeist, with the "gay dean" episode. Craig isn't *just* gay; he's more than that and didn't want to place limits on himself, and it was a subject not seen on a sitcom (or any show, really) before.
Also, the "JESUS WEPT!" VR episode. Brilliant.
So yeah, sorry buddy. You missed, big time with this one.
I went into Community long after it's run, meaning all 6 seasons were back to back to back. I also went into it pretty blind. So let me tell you that after S4, when the new characters and new relationship dynamic was brought in, it was actually REALLY obvious to me that the show had changed hands and the writers didn't know what they had.
Tbh I haven't watched this video but idk where to comment about an idea I'd love you guys to talk about. What happened to the movies like push, chronicle, wanted, jumper, the covenant, Hancock, etc... in a general way? I miss those one time knock off super person movies....
Season 6 was closer to Season 1 than any of the other seasons.
And now this is a man who knows how to do great videos
The worst season of Community is still better than so much other tv.
"Hemmoraging cast members"
Abed said it best
S6 is totally worth it for the peas bit ("This isn't the first time you've done this..."), "JESUS WEPT!", and the Karate Kid.
For me seasons 1-3 are like this incredible adventure where the chemistry between the characters is unbelievable and they are part of this bustling world with equally well written and complex side characters. Things feel bright and fun and the possibilities for the study group feel endless.
Season 4 feels like fan faction, best part is the original cast is still there and they manage to squeeze a couple of solid episodes out but it’s the first season that the original feel of the show very much dies. For me this is mainly signified by the dialogue being no where near as sharp and effortless as the first 3 seasons. The gags feel forced and the chemistry isn’t there.
Season 5 for me feels like the last proper hurrah of the original cast (- Pierce). The first 5 episodes are the closest the show gets to recapturing the vibe from the first 3 seasons. There’s a couple decent episodes after that but it tails off at the end of the season. However even the start of this season has a different feel things feel less spontaneous and free flowing it feels like each episode is an attempt at a one off adventure, there’s rarely any character arcs or development that flows from one episode to the next. The side characters are forced to become more involved in the show as a result of losing Troy and Pierce as well.
Season 6 feels like Harmon trying to hold together the broken pieces of a show to give it a dignified ending. Which he does. The last 3 episodes are great and a couple of other solid ones in there. It’s very much not the same show which he addresses within the 1st episode but it feels like a nice last run. The finale is as good as he possibly could’ve done.
My main criticisms post season 3 would be - Changs character gets completely ruined, any edge he once had his taken away and he just becomes a boring character who says nonsensical things for a cheap laugh.
2. Jeff’s transition into teaching is completely wasted- as much as people talk about how Harmon had to make the show adapt some times he doesn’t very well. Jeff being a teacher gives opportunities for some funny plots and character development which Harmon does not take advantage of in my opinion.
The stage adaptation of 'The Karate Kid' was brilliant. The paintball episode was just as good as the previous ones. The final 10 minutes of the finale plus the end credit scene were heart wrenching. Other than those examples, the entire season was unwatchable
Is this guy seriously using the VR episode as an example of a bad episode?