I've had my Buckmaster 184 for over 35 years now. I've used it for camping and 4 wheeling, boating and I wouldn't part with it. Best fixed blade knife I own for heavy use. The reproduction looks close however I dont know what the real quality is. Get yourself a ferro rod and forget the matches, a real compass and be happy with what you bought.
I’m an old fart. I grew up when you could get inexpensive but quality knives. If I pay $40 for a knife I expect it to perform. I’ve never spent more than $80 on a handmade knife and I’ve had good blades. I don’t go after fancy steels and prefer carbon steel. I remember when stainless steels were hit and miss on tempering. I don’t buy case anymore for that very reason. I still don’t trust a lot of stainless blades but I have some good ones from japan, Taiwan and even China. I’ve only had a couple fail me under extreme use. I was beatin hell out of em, way beyond design limits or prying.8cr steel doesn’t do to bad. When you can’t afford high end stuff you learn to be happy with what you can afford and learn to sharpen.
Taiwanese 420J on 3 Rambo IIs I have owned has outperformed by a huge margin, in edge holding, chopping on Maple, everything else I have ever owned, including original Liles, $2000 RJ Martin Blackbird, Busse Battlesaw, and even Randalls, though the Model 12 14 grind I had came close, as did most Seki made knives. Too bad the United R2 handles had to be replaced with a flashlight body (pot metal tube originally!)
@@JohnB-dr8sk It all depends on how clean the steel is and what secret trace elements (usually Boron or Nitrogen) the steel maker has added. The Swedes seem to get away with very low alloy steels and they take a beating and hold an edge ok. The Chinese and the Taiwanese can do the same when they want to.
As a boy scout in the seventies I had the buckmaster took it with me into the coast guard used it instead of my govt issue knife when I was a rescue swimmer. I miss that thing!
@@gregwallace1945 yeah I also heard about that Brother, for anchoring gear nearby like the bottom of a pier or rocks for getting in out and away 👍🏻🇦🇺 ;)
Very nice. I actually just bought a used 184 over the weekend. This video makes me want to grab one of these since the 184 wasn't cheap. Thanks for the review.
I think it is worth the price, and did better than I expected. If the Rockwell hardness is as advertised then the steel is most likely properly heat treated and should keep an edge fairly well and not be difficult to sharpen. For survival I would supplement it with a knife sharpener and compass of proven quality.
Despite some of the interesting gimmickry in these videos, you leave unanswered how well these knives hold an edge and how hard (or easy) they are to sharpen when dull. Most of these knives are reasonably sharp out of the box so the initial testing almost always looks good. However, the real value of a knife for most of us is how long will it hold an edge and how hard is it to restore that edge when the knife gets dull. Food for thought.....
As far as any military connections, elements of this knife, especially the handle connection of the 184 were the basis for the buck designed M9 bayonet.
Basically an excellent test result. Appreciated that you did not get over excited about the rattling guard. I've seen $1000 hollow handle customs where it actually was quite a bit worse: Many quality hollow handle are simply epoxied together, not even any need for screws, which tends to be a feature of cheap ones(!), but the key is the tube handle's inner surface should be rough for the epoxy to lock unto... A few high end makers forget to rough up or notch the tube insides, and the guard then acts as a lever (when hit) to slide the tube a short distance. Tube movement is worse than what happened to this cheapo, which can probably be fixed with a bit of epoxy.
Can you imagine the astronomical aeronautical math equations Bryon has to calculate and re-calculate off-screen just to get them right to prove a knife is balanced? His rocket science background and working for NASA helps a lot. The guy is a genious. My knife throwing hero. Keep up the hard work, Bryon. Keep 'em coming.
I have a original buck master 184 it comes with the separate compass which goes in the one pouch I ordered second one for the pins. Good knife I also have a lile first blood excellent.
I have what looks to be the same knife with the nut visible in the handle that I ordered probably 18-20 years ago and I’ve never used it. Mine has the compass in the handle cap, HAS the original matches, a different leather sheath with the stone, fish hooks and split shot, and instead of a wire saw I thought it was a piece of snare wire and two (what I believe to be) snare triggers. I no longer have the box but after watching this I had to go dig it out of one of my old bags. Thanks for the video!
Hit send accidentally. Also it wasn't to be used for climbing. I think the buck knife specifically warned against it. I think it was meant to use as a hook for retrieval of things.
I have one. It is also not easy to find nowadays. Average cost $50.00 .. Compass works. Fill open slot of guard and blade with high quality G-glue, loc-tite so guard will not work loose and make noise in the field. Have blade sharpened. Use chain saw file set on sawback of my knife. Make your own in handle survival kit with dual wire, include wrapping a bowstring around kit in the handle so it does not rattle and make noise while hiking. A few simple modifications make the Buckmaster replica a worthwhile survival knife..
At very least it looks way better than the Harbor Freight knife, haha! I think it would help get you out of a pinch, but not too sure of it's long term use. Thanks for the video, Brian!
The only hollow handled Rambo style knife I would trust is the Schrade which is milled from one piece of steel. I am afraid the others will break and I have a blade flying toward my head. No way I could chop with one. This knife would make a 10 yr. old boy happy, so there is a big market for them and $42 sounds good to me. Maybe I can find a Buck version at a yard sale for $2. Thanks for showing this knife Brian. As for quality, I would say it is a 7 out of 10 compared to other Rambo knives.
I had one of these a while back, the problem I had was that the handle and blade are bolted together. I finally locked it down with a bit of jb weld on the threads otherwise it okay..
Traded a "Buck Master" for a Glock 17... Picked up the in the late 80's new in box. Love the Glock the knife was collecting dust. Thank you for the video. : )
The original 184 was overpriced back in the day, which is why I never got one. When I started seeing knockoffs show up in the late 80s I kept meaning to grab one, but by that time I was doing less and less outdoor activities. This looks great for the price, even though it's now $25 more, three years later.
Suggestion...you might try putting a wrist lanyard on the rear of the handle, hold by the rearmost point of the handle, and chop with a loose wrist. Should give a better chopping action by putting weight forward. Also, chop on a 45 degree angle, alternating sides. Interesting knife. Thaks for the review.
I have one of those. I've never actually taken out and beaten on it though. I just bought it because I never got the chance to get a real Buck 184. great bed, can't wait to watch the video of the real Buck 184.
One of my greatest laments is an old buckmaster Lt one piece steel with the skeletonized handle which I sold.. never should’ve done that. I put that thing through hell and wish I had it back. It wasn’t much of a carver but it processed more wood before 7am than some knives could do all week.
Wire saws are notorious for breaking, though they are light and compact. If forced to use one, the best bet to make it last is to find a springy stick and make a bow saw. Hollow knives, except for the expensive forged one piece Chris Reeve, make me nervous. Seeing the German “rostfrei” on a Taiwanese knife was amusing.
Since you asked, the only one I would have wud b the schf1 or maybe the schf2. Can't beat the one piece construction. But I already got the schf56l and am quite happy with it. The. Schf 42 will be my next purchase. I love the recurve design. Then I need a froe and a straight pull blade for cleaning up shakes. Then to build my boat. Work work work.....
The original Buckmaster 184 came with a silva compass in the pouch with a neck lanyard. As for the pins that go into the handguard are not made for grappling they were designed for being able to use them as a cleat to tie vessels when it was use in Vietnam. The knife overall is a pretty decent knife but very large and hard to do fine camping chores with.
I will look to get one of these as an addition to my knife collection. It will be a reminder of the Buck 184 and what it looked like. I almost bought one of the originals decades ago but just didn't at the time because I felt they were just too much money. Now I am sorry I didn't. I did buy a number of classic knives that are no longer available that collectors really like. If I see a 184 in good shape, I will consider it, if it is up for sale. I really would not take the Ramster out into the bush and have to rely on it. I'll stick with my Tops. Good review, I always enjoy the balance test.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Going back in the mid 80s, it was so long ago. But for some reason I remember a cost of $129.00 for a Buckmaster. I just could not afford it at the time and when I could, they were impossible to find here (Canada). I do however have a Buck made, M9 Bayonet, Phrobis 3. Never used, in perfect condition with perfect sheath and a box. I did do something right. And they were rare to begin with here. Buck hasn't had the military contract for about 23 years. Other than used ones you may find on Ebay, as new I imagine would be difficult to find. This knife sits in one of my antique china cabinets I use as display cases. I have never used it and often think that it would be fun to take out into the bush. But that is something I will never do. I have a number of blades I bought to strap on my side and use. Then I got them home and just couldn't do it. My Al Mar folder I have had since the earlier 80s is one of them. So now, for many years, when I buy a knife for my collection, I have a tendency to buy two or more. One that never gets used and goes into my collection and one to use. Really enjoy your videos, I always learn something from you, thanks. And for sure, I always enjoy the balance test. LOL
Man they did a good job and mimicking the buck master, I had one for years and now iam tempted to purchase that one just for the sheath, the grappling hooks where for navy seals to store their equipment underwater , they would wedge the knife in some rocks with their gear attached to it , I like Taiwan products a lot better then China , good review
For $39.00 ,,, It seems to be a winner ! To spend 6 , 7 , $800.00 for an original seems ridiculous to me ! But some folks want the real deal I suppose, but for me, I would be perfectly fine owning this knife ,,, 😁✌
Be very careful they have very fragile points (I broke two). One I dropped on the floor by accident, and the other broke when I stabbed some wood. I think Buck tried to correct this problem with drop forged blades which have a deep forged fuller with the word Buckmaster inside. Those are the later models. I don't have any experience with them, but I would still be careful handling them.
My research seemed to indicate that the spikes were to allow the knife to be used as an underwater anchor point to allow divers to work without drifting with the current.
The original was designed for the SEALs to use the hooks to anchor themselves against a current underwater. Staying in one place in a current aided in setting up demolition.
I still had my original 184 Buckmaster I picked up with my dad at a gun show back in the 80s. They had different versions of it over the years from Buck. There is a web page still up showing all the different production styles. The one I had had the same external compass with it, they had one that did have the compass in the handle like the Rambo. Any complaints are not that big deal for being a $40 knife, seems pretty nice tho. Finally just sold my 184 on Ebay last fall for about $600 just because it's been sitting in the box for 30+ years. This cheap knockoff is worth buying just to say u have one tho 😎
I'm surprised to see that this is the same price in Romania... Here most of name brand knives either cost double either they are very very expensive and take 2-3 weeks to be delivered (probably imported). Great review as always! Have a great day and a nice summer.
The Buck 184 Buckmaster did NOT come with a compass in the handle. It came with that exact compass in the top pouch. I carried a Swiss Army knife in the larger pouch on mine.
Hi man,keep on rocking fa all us older brothers just wanted to say rost frie is German for rust free it's telling you it's stainless steel peace to you and yours bruv atb Dave
I got one like that, which I found in a basement about 25 years ago. The spikes were missing unfortunatly, as well as the sheath. And the compass and that stuff. It just says "stainless /rostfrei" on the left side, nothing else. But the cross bar is not rattling at least. Generally, I don't think its a good design - its the "pickup truck of knifes" somehow. It can do a lot of things, but nothing really well.
I bought a Buck 184 in 1988. Broke the tip on it a year later. Don’t remember how. Ended up selling it for $100. It was just too bulky and hard to use.
Had original buckmaster back in the eighties. To heavy and bulky for practical use. I regretted buying it. I went to military surplus store to trade for other merchandise. He didn’t want to do it but did cause I was a loyal customer. Very high dollar knife for that time. Alan Rice.
I don’t remember the cost , I just remember that it was much more . I’m guessing in the 60$ range. That was a high dollar knife for the mid eighties. Was on a hollow handle kick then. Alan Rice.
Totally agree on the Buckmaster. I had to keep my belt so tight just to keep my pants up. Be ok I guess if you looked like the Hulk. Wish I had it now though, would trade it for a nice handgun!.
I had to pause the video and order one and then finish the video. I've always done more with less and better with cheaper. You have to provide your own matches anyway... with ones you know will work.
That knife seem to be nice, but I would not throw it as you don't want to lose it when you don't hit your target, and also since some American knife makers shipped knives which had a loose area where the handle and blade meets. One of those companies was Ka-Bar and another was Ontario which makes the military style knives. I don't have a knife like that one and would not buy one, but it sounds like it would be nice for people who are looking for knives like the Buck 119 or 120 which isn't a full tang knife.
Thanks Dave. My spouse bought me the Ramsey survival knife to put in my car and it too had no matches. $45 survival knife with no matches, how stupid!!! Liked your video but would like to see how to fish with the knife. Is the handle also designed as a kind of rod? I had a tiny jewelry earring zippy bag and put some matches in that and a strike surface, off a big box of matches and put that in the sheath pocket. Other than one's metal pants zipper, could one strike a match off the sharpening stone included? Thx. Katie
The blade on the Buckmaster 184 is thicker the Buckmaster 184 also has all stainless steel handle the ramster has all steel handle painted the cases are very similar but the web is thicker the Buckmaster 184 and the knife hangs little bit lower so it's balanced in the case without the lanyard tied on your leg but for the money the ramster is a good deal but not exactly the same the Buckmaster 184 is a lot better knife great video though thanks a lot keep up the good work
I might buy one just for the sheath. My buck 184 has the sheath. I just need one for my buck 916 now. Not too sure what I'm going to do about our with the knife??
Special request. Put that plastic sheath in the freezer overnight. Next day, take and whack it on the counter (if allowed.) Remember, it's easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Well it's a knock off of a buck knife. And it seems to have held up better than the other ones to a point. In a survival situation you have to deal with what every knife , you have on you. I just hope I have a bk7 or bk9 on me. Keep it up do , another one
The big question is how does this knife compare to the Schrade SCHF1 Survival one-piece hollow handle knife, which is only 20 dollars more. What are your thoughts?
I actually own one of the originals because I was a sucker for Rambo. It wasn’t worth it. It was probably the last knife if I would ever want in a survival situation.
I think the essence of survival knives are their ability to help you survive. Is this knife better than no knife? Absolutely! Would I care to gamble my life on this knife's performance under survival conditions? Absolutely NOT! For just a few dollars more you can buy a good quality fixed blade knife that could be counted on.
Less talking, more singing Brian. I still have a few of your songs to catch up on. I wonder how many people on here know you have a GUITAR/SINGING website? Hopefully, now I've mentioned it they will go searching for it. CHEERS, once again from Australia. 4.00 a.m. Sunday here. Damn it, I forgot to mention: "there were no MATCHES in it" LOLOL.
I want to thank you very much for finding that knife and all the info. The last time i saw one of those was decades ago(oopppssss i just revealed my age lol) but didn’t know who made it. I have been looking for it again for years but could never find it till today. Thanks again for another awesome video. Side note: your furry buddy better watch out, its going to get stabbed if it keeps hanging out on the Rotation Device lmao.
i have that sheath except its green has a wire cutter and holds my bayonet - but this black sheath is still very good - its better than the knife it came with - just use it to hold a better knife :-) i think if you really pushed this knife because your survival was at stake - it would fail - if the metals are compatible - maybe the knife could be tig welded together into one solid piece - hard batoning always finds a knifes weakness
honesty i cant rate it good bc theres no matches. tho i do admit that the saw worked better on its 1st try then the one i gotten when i was in boy scouts 2+ century mine the handle just came off when i tried to saw.. century ago i tried to throw on onto its target the blade snapped right off.
Geez, how about one that is useful... if u are down to using this..the question is... would u bet your life on it? .. sharade makes one right? I do like that you test throwing... however... who in the hell would disassemble their knife if they needed to throw It?.. COME ON MAN!
Hey I'm getting the mora companion like you told me toso i can try it out. Im also getting the mora bushcrafter. Is the bushcrafter a good knife as well? I already feel i was wrong about calling them over hyped the reviews i read are all 5 star reviews.
The fact you were able to flip that thing and catch it without stabbing yourself multiple times was what finally convinced me to buy one.
I've had my Buckmaster 184 for over 35 years now. I've used it for camping and 4 wheeling, boating and I wouldn't part with it. Best fixed blade knife I own for heavy use. The reproduction looks close however I dont know what the real quality is. Get yourself a ferro rod and forget the matches, a real compass and be happy with what you bought.
I’m an old fart. I grew up when you could get inexpensive but quality knives. If I pay $40 for a knife I expect it to perform. I’ve never spent more than $80 on a handmade knife and I’ve had good blades. I don’t go after fancy steels and prefer carbon steel. I remember when stainless steels were hit and miss on tempering. I don’t buy case anymore for that very reason. I still don’t trust a lot of stainless blades but I have some good ones from japan, Taiwan and even China. I’ve only had a couple fail me under extreme use. I was beatin hell out of em, way beyond design limits or prying.8cr steel doesn’t do to bad. When you can’t afford high end stuff you learn to be happy with what you can afford and learn to sharpen.
Taiwanese 420J on 3 Rambo IIs I have owned has outperformed by a huge margin, in edge holding, chopping on Maple, everything else I have ever owned, including original Liles, $2000 RJ Martin Blackbird, Busse Battlesaw, and even Randalls, though the Model 12 14 grind I had came close, as did most Seki made knives. Too bad the United R2 handles had to be replaced with a flashlight body (pot metal tube originally!)
Yeah, that 8cr is the Chinese equivalent to Japanese AUS8, which is a great budget stainless. 4116 Krupp is also excellent for a cheap steel.
@@JohnB-dr8sk It all depends on how clean the steel is and what secret trace elements (usually Boron or Nitrogen) the steel maker has added. The Swedes seem to get away with very low alloy steels and they take a beating and hold an edge ok. The Chinese and the Taiwanese can do the same when they want to.
I knew a buddy who had one, its handle heavy, needs a snap strap near butt cap to keep it from flopping over.
As a boy scout in the seventies I had the buckmaster took it with me into the coast guard used it instead of my govt issue knife when I was a rescue swimmer. I miss that thing!
The grappling hook was made to be used under water to slow you down when there was a fast under tide current 👍🏻
Would you explain us more please, how is that?
Close. for anchoring gear under water.
@@gregwallace1945 yeah I also heard about that Brother, for anchoring gear nearby like the bottom of a pier or rocks for getting in out and away 👍🏻🇦🇺 ;)
I got the Buck from about 1985 don't have the spikes anymore cool stuff.
Matches are a haze mat issue now days. I've bought many items that had matches removed. Nice video again.
I guess so.
My understanding as well. No flammable materials on air-freight. You would want to add your own weather proof matches anyway.
I had one of the knock offs 30 years ago, bought st a flea market, loved it. Sold at a garage sale many years later, I wish I still had it.
Now you can
The spikes were for the use of an anchor for rib boats. Just a fyi, not grapple hooks.
Awesome video 👍👍👍
Thanks for review
Very nice. I actually just bought a used 184 over the weekend. This video makes me want to grab one of these since the 184 wasn't cheap. Thanks for the review.
If I have to hear the sponsor speech in every video, then I want to hear the awesome guitar intro to survival on purpose videos
If you can find one, try out an Aitor Jungle King I. I picked up one back in the late 80s, and still have it.
Aside from the guard loosening up it held up pretty well.
I think it is worth the price, and did better than I expected. If the Rockwell hardness is as advertised then the steel is most likely properly heat treated and should keep an edge fairly well and not be difficult to sharpen. For survival I would supplement it with a knife sharpener and compass of proven quality.
yep
Despite some of the interesting gimmickry in these videos, you leave unanswered how well these knives hold an edge and how hard (or easy) they are to sharpen when dull. Most of these knives are reasonably sharp out of the box so the initial testing almost always looks good. However, the real value of a knife for most of us is how long will it hold an edge and how hard is it to restore that edge when the knife gets dull. Food for thought.....
Came for the knife stayed for the tindling.
As far as any military connections, elements of this knife, especially the handle connection of the 184 were the basis for the buck designed M9 bayonet.
cool
Nice review. Just picked one up at a garage sale for 10$. Better made than I thought.
Basically an excellent test result. Appreciated that you did not get over excited about the rattling guard. I've seen $1000 hollow handle customs where it actually was quite a bit worse: Many quality hollow handle are simply epoxied together, not even any need for screws, which tends to be a feature of cheap ones(!), but the key is the tube handle's inner surface should be rough for the epoxy to lock unto... A few high end makers forget to rough up or notch the tube insides, and the guard then acts as a lever (when hit) to slide the tube a short distance. Tube movement is worse than what happened to this cheapo, which can probably be fixed with a bit of epoxy.
If it’s not screwed, is should be pinned in place then epoxied.
Can you imagine the astronomical aeronautical math equations Bryon has to calculate and re-calculate off-screen just to get them right to prove a knife is balanced? His rocket science background and working for NASA helps a lot. The guy is a genious. My knife throwing hero.
Keep up the hard work, Bryon. Keep 'em coming.
Aw shucks ;-)
It was said in jest.
I have a original buck master 184 it comes with the separate compass which goes in the one pouch I ordered second one for the pins. Good knife I also have a lile first blood excellent.
nice!
I have what looks to be the same knife with the nut visible in the handle that I ordered probably 18-20 years ago and I’ve never used it. Mine has the compass in the handle cap, HAS the original matches, a different leather sheath with the stone, fish hooks and split shot, and instead of a wire saw I thought it was a piece of snare wire and two (what I believe to be) snare triggers. I no longer have the box but after watching this I had to go dig it out of one of my old bags. Thanks for the video!
good review
Glad you enjoyed it
I don’t know if I would trust grappling with that knife. Comes loose you got a big knife coming at yea after you hit the ground lol
You should probably leave it in the sheath
Hit send accidentally. Also it wasn't to be used for climbing. I think the buck knife specifically warned against it. I think it was meant to use as a hook for retrieval of things.
@@andrewmcgibbon9785 It's designed to anchor equipment to the beach/shoreline, such as a small inflatable watercraft.
That entire concept is a freaking joke !!! 😂😂😂
I have one. It is also not easy to find nowadays. Average cost $50.00 ..
Compass works.
Fill open slot of guard and blade with high quality G-glue, loc-tite so guard will not work loose and make noise in the field.
Have blade sharpened. Use chain saw file set on sawback of my knife. Make your own in handle survival kit with dual wire, include wrapping a bowstring around kit in the handle so it does not rattle and make noise while hiking. A few simple modifications make the Buckmaster replica a worthwhile survival knife..
I have an original Buck Master my wife bought me in about 1986 for my birthday.
At very least it looks way better than the Harbor Freight knife, haha! I think it would help get you out of a pinch, but not too sure of it's long term use. Thanks for the video, Brian!
The only hollow handled Rambo style knife I would trust is the Schrade which is milled from one piece of steel. I am afraid the others will break and I have a blade flying toward my head. No way I could chop with one. This knife would make a 10 yr. old boy happy, so there is a big market for them and $42 sounds good to me. Maybe I can find a Buck version at a yard sale for $2. Thanks for showing this knife Brian. As for quality, I would say it is a 7 out of 10 compared to other Rambo knives.
If you find a Buckmaster for $2 let me know. I’ll double your money.
very nice. I like it. I may have to pick one up to compare it to the buck made version
I had one of these a while back, the problem I had was that the handle and blade are bolted together. I finally locked it down with a bit of jb weld on the threads otherwise it okay..
This one seems to have epoxy already in there
Traded a "Buck Master" for a Glock 17... Picked up the in the late 80's new in box. Love the Glock the knife was collecting dust. Thank you for the video. : )
I have one I would love to trade for a Glock 17 (or 19 or 26)
The original 184 was overpriced back in the day, which is why I never got one. When I started seeing knockoffs show up in the late 80s I kept meaning to grab one, but by that time I was doing less and less outdoor activities. This looks great for the price, even though it's now $25 more, three years later.
Suggestion...you might try putting a wrist lanyard on the rear of the handle, hold by the rearmost point of the handle, and chop with a loose wrist. Should give a better chopping action by putting weight forward. Also, chop on a 45 degree angle, alternating sides. Interesting knife. Thaks for the review.
...and amazed it withstood throwing!
I have one of those. I've never actually taken out and beaten on it though. I just bought it because I never got the chance to get a real Buck 184. great bed, can't wait to watch the video of the real Buck 184.
PS,, Its illegal to ship matches these day's,,, that is the reason you didn't recieve any,,, TY for this great review ! 😁✌
One of my greatest laments is an old buckmaster Lt one piece steel with the skeletonized handle which I sold.. never should’ve done that. I put that thing through hell and wish I had it back. It wasn’t much of a carver but it processed more wood before 7am than some knives could do all week.
those anchor pins where designed to allow the seals to suspend themselves at a desired depth underwater.thanks Byran;-)
hmmm. interesting
i read that years ago in a knife magazine article but who know's:-)
Wire saws are notorious for breaking, though they are light and compact. If forced to use one, the best bet to make it last is to find a springy stick and make a bow saw. Hollow knives, except for the expensive forged one piece Chris Reeve, make me nervous. Seeing the German “rostfrei” on a Taiwanese knife was amusing.
Good review brother. Looks like a decent knife.
not bad
Since you asked, the only one I would have wud b the schf1 or maybe the schf2. Can't beat the one piece construction. But I already got the schf56l and am quite happy with it. The. Schf 42 will be my next purchase. I love the recurve design. Then I need a froe and a straight pull blade for cleaning up shakes. Then to build my boat. Work work work.....
check if you can put the spikes to the other side and use them as a knife gard
after bending the scrus on the gard
They won’t
The original Buckmaster 184 came with a silva compass in the pouch with a neck lanyard. As for the pins that go into the handguard are not made for grappling they were designed for being able to use them as a cleat to tie vessels when it was use in Vietnam. The knife overall is a pretty decent knife but very large and hard to do fine camping chores with.
Thanks
Well this really makes me wish Idve bought a couple of BUCK 184s when they first came out for future sale...and a BUCK 124 TO USE😂great vid Brian
Yeah, me too
My original Buck 184 did not have a compass in the handle. It was in the pouch just like this knockoff.
They changed the design at some point in the production life
The original Buck 184 had the compass in the handle, but people would put the anchor pins in the handle and slide and break the compass.
I will look to get one of these as an addition to my knife collection. It will be a reminder of the Buck 184 and what it looked like. I almost bought one of the originals decades ago but just didn't at the time because I felt they were just too much money. Now I am sorry I didn't. I did buy a number of classic knives that are no longer available that collectors really like. If I see a 184 in good shape, I will consider it, if it is up for sale. I really would not take the Ramster out into the bush and have to rely on it. I'll stick with my Tops. Good review, I always enjoy the balance test.
Do you remember how much Buckmaster knives cost when new?
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Going back in the mid 80s, it was so long ago. But for some reason I remember a cost of $129.00 for a Buckmaster. I just could not afford it at the time and when I could, they were impossible to find here (Canada).
I do however have a Buck made, M9 Bayonet, Phrobis 3. Never used, in perfect condition with perfect sheath and a box. I did do something right. And they were rare to begin with here. Buck hasn't had the military contract for about 23 years. Other than used ones you may find on Ebay, as new I imagine would be difficult to find. This knife sits in one of my antique china cabinets I use as display cases. I have never used it and often think that it would be fun to take out into the bush. But that is something I will never do. I have a number of blades I bought to strap on my side and use. Then I got them home and just couldn't do it. My Al Mar folder I have had since the earlier 80s is one of them. So now, for many years, when I buy a knife for my collection, I have a tendency to buy two or more. One that never gets used and goes into my collection and one to use.
Really enjoy your videos, I always learn something from you, thanks. And for sure, I always enjoy the balance test. LOL
Man they did a good job and mimicking the buck master, I had one for years and now iam tempted to purchase that one just for the sheath, the grappling hooks where for navy seals to store their equipment underwater , they would wedge the knife in some rocks with their gear attached to it , I like Taiwan products a lot better then China , good review
For $39.00 ,,, It seems to be a winner ! To spend 6 , 7 , $800.00 for an original seems ridiculous to me ! But some folks want the real deal I suppose, but for me, I would be perfectly fine owning this knife ,,, 😁✌
A thousand dollars for a knife?? ........I definitely like your option!
That is the highest price I have seen. But many are between $400 -$800
I bought one of the orginal Bucks in Thomasville Georgia in 1986, It's a beast. By the way, how far to your target?
Be very careful they have very fragile points (I broke two). One I dropped on the floor by accident, and the other broke when I stabbed some wood. I think Buck tried to correct this problem with drop forged blades which have a deep forged fuller with the word Buckmaster inside. Those are the later models. I don't have any experience with them, but I would still be careful handling them.
A new version of the Buckmaster was teased at SHOT 2020
I saw that. Not hollow handle
My understanding is that the grapple feature was to restrain inflatable boats after landing to bushes or whatever on shore.
My research seemed to indicate that the spikes were to allow the knife to be used as an underwater anchor point to allow divers to work without drifting with the current.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Quick reply on a 4 year old post. I just came across your hollow handle survival knife series. Good stuff.
The original was designed for the SEALs to use the hooks to anchor themselves against a current underwater. Staying in one place in a current aided in setting up demolition.
Thanks.
The cheaper survival hollow handle knives you tested did about as well.
I still had my original 184 Buckmaster I picked up with my dad at a gun show back in the 80s. They had different versions of it over the years from Buck. There is a web page still up showing all the different production styles. The one I had had the same external compass with it, they had one that did have the compass in the handle like the Rambo. Any complaints are not that big deal for being a $40 knife, seems pretty nice tho. Finally just sold my 184 on Ebay last fall for about $600 just because it's been sitting in the box for 30+ years. This cheap knockoff is worth buying just to say u have one tho 😎
Mail regulations against matches. That why they don't put them in there anymore.
I'm surprised to see that this is the same price in Romania... Here most of name brand knives either cost double either they are very very expensive and take 2-3 weeks to be delivered (probably imported). Great review as always! Have a great day and a nice summer.
You too.
The Buck 184 Buckmaster did NOT come with a compass in the handle. It came with that exact compass in the top pouch. I carried a Swiss Army knife in the larger pouch on mine.
I have a few Buckmaster 184's with the compass in the pommel. Very early design.
Hi man,keep on rocking fa all us older brothers just wanted to say rost frie is German for rust free it's telling you it's stainless steel peace to you and yours bruv atb Dave
I thought the name ramster came from rambos hamster cos it's what he edc,s lol
Saw on knife was originally intended for cutting through fuselage
One the Buckmaster, yep. Stay tuned tomorrow ;-)
The Schrade ferro rod's worth considering. "Rostfrei?" German for rust free. You've got the knife throwing thing down; just like Jim Bowie!
The Schrade ferro rod rocks!
Great review on a 40 dollar knife
I got one like that, which I found in a basement about 25 years ago. The spikes were missing unfortunatly, as well as the sheath. And the compass and that stuff.
It just says "stainless /rostfrei" on the left side, nothing else.
But the cross bar is not rattling at least.
Generally, I don't think its a good design - its the "pickup truck of knifes" somehow. It can do a lot of things, but nothing really well.
but still cool
Also i thought survival knives has a bit of fishing gear and matches and so on in the handle?A cable style hand saw as well.....?
huh?
I have one, my sister broke the tip of the knife trying to open a closed door, since that moment i lost my faith in this knife, that was 20 years ago.
I bought a Buck 184 in 1988. Broke the tip on it a year later. Don’t remember how. Ended up selling it for $100.
It was just too bulky and hard to use.
Had original buckmaster back in the eighties. To heavy and bulky for practical use. I regretted buying it. I went to military surplus store to trade for other merchandise. He didn’t want to do it but did cause I was a loyal customer. Very high dollar knife for that time. Alan Rice.
How much was it then, do you remember?
I don’t remember the cost , I just remember that it was much more . I’m guessing in the 60$ range. That was a high dollar knife for the mid eighties. Was on a hollow handle kick then. Alan Rice.
Totally agree on the Buckmaster. I had to keep my belt so tight just to keep my pants up. Be ok I guess if you looked like the Hulk. Wish I had it now though, would trade it for a nice handgun!.
Taiwan knives can be real quality . This is not PRC where you take a chance on what you get.
I had to pause the video and order one and then finish the video. I've always done more with less and better with cheaper. You have to provide your own matches anyway... with ones you know will work.
Glad I could help!
That knife seem to be nice, but I would not throw it as you don't want to lose it when you don't hit your target, and also since some American knife makers shipped knives which had a loose area where the handle and blade meets. One of those companies was Ka-Bar and another was Ontario which makes the military style knives. I don't have a knife like that one and would not buy one, but it sounds like it would be nice for people who are looking for knives like the Buck 119 or 120 which isn't a full tang knife.
Now $63 on Amazon.
Thanks Dave. My spouse bought me the Ramsey survival knife to put in my car and it too had no matches. $45 survival knife with no matches, how stupid!!! Liked your video but would like to see how to fish with the knife. Is the handle also designed as a kind of rod? I had a tiny jewelry earring zippy bag and put some matches in that and a strike surface, off a big box of matches and put that in the sheath pocket. Other than one's metal pants zipper, could one strike a match off the sharpening stone included? Thx. Katie
The blade on the Buckmaster 184 is thicker the Buckmaster 184 also has all stainless steel handle the ramster has all steel handle painted the cases are very similar but the web is thicker the Buckmaster 184 and the knife hangs little bit lower so it's balanced in the case without the lanyard tied on your leg but for the money the ramster is a good deal but not exactly the same the Buckmaster 184 is a lot better knife great video though thanks a lot keep up the good work
I might buy one just for the sheath. My buck 184 has the sheath. I just need one for my buck 916 now. Not too sure what I'm going to do about our with the knife??
The name is just really amusing to me; sounds like the name of a rodent-shaped, door breaching tool used by a SWAT team or something, LOL!
All righty then ;-)
Rambling on about a Rambo knife, cool. 😉😬👏👏👏👏👏🇺🇸🔪
;-)
Geez, I expect those finger grips for the wire saw will be lost almost immediately.
or sooner
the knife is very stable! what do you think is the best hol handle knife?
Schrade SCHF1 th-cam.com/video/z51Zg4fFDfE/w-d-xo.html
Yup ! She's Balanced. Best Part was seeing Lil " S T I N K Y " Thanks, Bryan ! ATB T God Bless
Rostfrei is stainless steel
Special request.
Put that plastic sheath in the freezer overnight. Next day, take and whack it on the counter (if allowed.) Remember, it's easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Well it's a knock off of a buck knife. And it seems to have held up better than the other ones to a point. In a survival situation you have to deal with what every knife , you have on you. I just hope I have a bk7 or bk9 on me. Keep it up do , another one
The big question is how does this knife compare to the Schrade SCHF1 Survival one-piece hollow handle knife, which is only 20 dollars more. What are your thoughts?
I actually own one of the originals because I was a sucker for Rambo. It wasn’t worth it. It was probably the last knife if I would ever want in a survival situation.
That should have been owned. I sold that long ago.
Maybe not the last but certainly not the first
I think the essence of survival knives are their ability to help you survive. Is this knife better than no knife? Absolutely! Would I care to gamble my life on this knife's performance under survival conditions? Absolutely NOT! For just a few dollars more you can buy a good quality fixed blade knife that could be counted on.
I tend to agree
If you check out knifcenters buck video from shot show you can find out a lot about the buckmaster. They are also working on making a buckmaster 2.0.
Less talking, more singing Brian. I still have a few of your songs to catch up on.
I wonder how many people on here know you have a GUITAR/SINGING website?
Hopefully, now I've mentioned it they will go searching for it. CHEERS, once again from Australia. 4.00 a.m. Sunday here.
Damn it, I forgot to mention: "there were no MATCHES in it" LOLOL.
Bryan is quite the talented guitarist: th-cam.com/users/AcousticGuitarStrum
I have the real thing and it works good 👍 great knife 🔪 one of buck knives that they made☺ good video great job
Thanks
I want to thank you very much for finding that knife and all the info. The last time i saw one of those was decades ago(oopppssss i just revealed my age lol) but didn’t know who made it. I have been looking for it again for years but could never find it till today. Thanks again for another awesome video.
Side note: your furry buddy better watch out, its going to get stabbed if it keeps hanging out on the Rotation Device lmao.
This one seems like a good copy of the Buck
Survival On Purpose i see that. I like it! Its the spikes that caught my eye decades ago lol. I thought it looked cool.
For quality and performance the schrade is still the front runner
it is a tank
i have that sheath except its green has a wire cutter and holds my bayonet - but this black sheath is still very good - its better than the knife it came with - just use it to hold a better knife :-)
i think if you really pushed this knife because your survival was at stake - it would fail - if the metals are compatible - maybe the knife could be tig welded together into one solid piece - hard batoning always finds a knifes weakness
I am pretty sure Rothco acquired the rights from Buck
honesty i cant rate it good bc theres no matches. tho i do admit that the saw worked better on its 1st try then the one i gotten when i was in boy scouts 2+ century mine the handle just came off when i tried to saw.. century ago i tried to throw on onto its target the blade snapped right off.
Yep. Needs fire
Geez, how about one that is useful... if u are down to using this..the question is... would u bet your life on it? .. sharade makes one right? I do like that you test throwing... however... who in the hell would disassemble their knife if they needed to throw It?.. COME ON MAN!
Do you really throw all those knives I'm impressed as hell
thanks
Adrian Alexandrino what?
@@treatyourself7965 Spell check error re-read lol
il buck originale ha la lama spessa 7 mm questo che hai esposto si vede che è 5 mm. bella differenza...
Can you tighten the guard back up?
I don’t really understand those wire saws because you can only cut small sticks that you could easily just snap in half with your hands
Mike Sharp you have to know how to use them in conjunction with a bendy stick and fashion a bow for it. Not like he uses it.
Treat Yourself yea I didn’t think about that that could work really good
The "bendy stick" method works sometimes but this one came with little handles
Would those spikes screw in to the other side of the guard? I imagine they'd be pretty useful in a fight situation for catching an assailants knife.
You definitely do have an active imagination and no they are not useful as a guard they point perpendicular to the handle
@@marksmit8112 Yes, I'm desperately trying to find a reason for a landlubber to bother buying one of these.
I'll probably stick to my Buck 119.
Hey I'm getting the mora companion like you told me toso i can try it out. Im also getting the mora bushcrafter. Is the bushcrafter a good knife as well? I already feel i was wrong about calling them over hyped the reviews i read are all 5 star reviews.