How To Make A Treenet - Part 1: The Perimeter
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Hey everyone! I appreciate all of your comments on this and I’m listening and reading everything you post 😊 I’m back on the platform and will start posting more treenet related content soon! This video needs to be updated with more in-depth instruction and that will come soon so stay posted 😊
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You better cuz I just decided I want to learn.
please explain more
Yes! I’ve been building one in my room and this is the hardest part I’m dealing with!
It would be amazing if you could do like a 5 minute supplementary to this one where you demonstrate the tensioning and then tying the knot so that you can release the tensioning system with minimal loss of overall permimeter tension.
It's great to get a recent update on this! My parents moved to a new house with some trees in the back that would be PERFECT for a little tree net setup. I'm thinking of doing two levels of triangles so people can just hang out together out there and I'm hoping I can do it myself. I'm a pretty crafty person so I think I can learn the techniques if there are detailed enough videos.
Man I wish you included footage of you tightening and then tying the ends together before releasing tension. Seems like the most important part. And a link to the pulley system you’re using! Would really help non climbers
Absolutely. Hindsight is 20/20 on this one but I plan to make future videos that show these details so stay tuned 😊
@@treenetweaves I think I got it now. The part I was struggling with was how you used the slings and pulled tension on the line and then tied your joining knot. It took me a day of researching general climbing stuff to get a better idea of what you’re talking about. Think I’m gonna go with a $15 ratchet strap and see how that goes lol that pulley system is nice and maybe eventually if I get more into climbing or slack lining I’d invest.
@@treenetweaves not a climber don’t know anything but could I just get 2 double pulleys to make my own system and a lock with a prusik to hold the tension while I tie the main lines?? Or is that too much force for a prusik to reliably hold? Is there a line locking device that like clamps on? I see in my head now how I’ll use slings to attach to perimeter rope and crank tension. Just no experience and not ready to drop $400 bones on a fancy thing thats more than I need
@@nortexican7521 Do you mind sharing the video that allowed you to figure out how to get it to the right tension? I'm still a bit confused. If I use ratchets, will the ratchets always be there or are they only used to create the tension and then removed?
@@beck121you remove it after
Thank you SO much for making these videos. My 30th birthday is coming up and we’ve been putting in work on my property, with dreams of TreeNets! You are so thorough with all your great tips and techniques. Feeling confident we can create something wonderful now. And I love you remind us to remember to not stress and have fun, creating art. THANK YOU!!
Not a problem at all! Can’t wait to see your creation 😊 Have fun!!!
Cool, cool, cool. I can't wait to start building mine! Just as an aside though, I think users do want to use zinc as zinc coats are used to slow oxidation and thus it's how metal hardware is weatherproofed.
Cant wait for the tensioning video to drop
Hey @alonso goes Can you show us how exactly you did the knots and tension on the perimeter
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I thought the same thing!!!!
Great information!! Do you have any recommendations on a video that might explain how to tighten using the ratchets?
I have been prepping to do my first tree need sense seeing this video. I would love to see a video of the actual tensioning
I’m working on those 😊 Stay tuned and I’ll be releasing a whole new series of treenet and spacenet videos at some point 🙌🏼
I appreciate you sharing the process, keep it up!
Hi, Thanks for the great introduction! You mentioned that you would link the type of rope you are using for your perimeter rope. Can you share?
Looking forward to binging your channel! cheers!
In general I use 10mm Static Rope! 😊 I can’t recommend a specific rope as my usage changes depending on price, availability, color, etc… But Sterling and Black Diamond are great companies to look into! 😊
Really cool video! I definitely wanna make a tree net sometime in my life!
You definitely should 😊😊
Very good explanation without extra words. Wish other creators could do this. No blah blah blah thanks! Like and sub.
How can the tree and tree net be friends when putting screws in it?
Thanks bro I’m building one 60ft high in a few oaks in my front yard.
Nice! 🙌🏼
@@treenetweavesI’m about 20ft up now bro, kinda hard to climb up. Gonna get a harness so I don’t fall and die. I wanna get to 70ft so I can see the sunset in the canopy.
Can you cover the different ways to actually tension the perimeter. Specifically without any mechanical assistance. What kinds of knots you use and how you start/end the perimeter.
I'm working on one now at ground level and I think it could've been tighter. I want my next layer to be done better.
You could maybe use a turn buckle to get tension without pulleys but I think some sort of mechanical advantage is necessary in getting it tight enough :)
Use any knots that solidly join ropes together. I like the double fisherman’s and the double sheet bend personally 😊
@@treenetweaves so when you say "mechanical advantage" are we talking like a tool that can be used to get tension (and hopefully isn't permanent) or are we talking rope techniques like trucker's hitch?
I'm about ready to start on my second layer and I can tell by looking at the amount of curve in the first layer hat it just was not tight enough to start with.
A tool that can be used and then removed from the system. I use pulleys but I’ve also seen ratchet straps and other things such as winches used for this. Have fun! 😊
@@treenetweaves can you do maybe a short video or using each of these techniques. I can't for the life of me figure out how you'd tension with pulleys or ratchet strap and still be able the get them out of the system with out losing a ton of tension.
@@Pshock13y I’d be happy to! But it might be a while since I have no spacenet projects in the works currently and will be traveling for most of the winter
Parabéns pelo vídeo 🇧🇷 de longe mas querendo muito aprender
I wonder if dipping fish eye hooks in rubber cement will help from corrosion
when tieing your perimeter rope are you saying youre using pulleys to get that tight pull needed and what knots are you using to close your perimeter off.????
YAYYY FINALLY!!! Can’t wait to build one!
Goodluck!!! 😊🙌🏼
Awesome video! Thanks!
Thank you so much for answering!! God bless you.
I’m wondering about the little pieces of wood you put up to protect the tree. That wouldn’t be able to happen (in the crape myrtle) because it would be more like building a circle inside of one tree (verses connecting trees with ropes).
Do you think screwing in the wood on the sides of the lag key would work?
Definitely! It’ll be a bit harder to do but you’ll be glad you protected the tree well 😊
Just so you know, zinc corrodes at a rate of 1/30 under steel. This means steel rusts 30 times faster.
I may have misspoke but I was talking about rust. Zinc rusts much faster than stainless steel.
How did you tighten the static rope??
Awesome videos, I think I have watched all your videos related to spacenets and trees…
So ready as I am to start my tree net and weaving, I came to a budget problem. I am new to this “certified climbing rope” … I went to ebay/amazon to buy 12mm rope, and then 8mmfor the skeleton, and then 1500ft of paracord… all for a total of $100.
I read about that rope being a scam… and so my proyect went up to $400 …
I am in Colombia/southamerica… Can I use steel wire instead? And for the skeleton 8mm, and weaving with paracord… thanks in advance!
These can be very expensive but it’s well worth the investment… I’m sure steel wire is strong enough. I’m just worried that it’ll cause excessive abrasion to the rope that you tie to it. I can’t say for sure but the 8mm skeleton and paracord weave are definite yeses 😊🙌🏼
I found a tubular polister or nylon sleeve very cheap price around here, to cover the steel wire… do you thing that can reduce abrasion?
I was wondering if the cheap amazon 8mm climbing rope is good enough for this proyect?
I really can’t say… The only thing I will say is that going cheap will cost you in safety and in quality over time so I wouldn’t recommend it…
This video is awesome, I hope you do more man!
Thank you!! There are definitely more coming 😊
You can use an Allen wrench in your driver to screw those lag bolts in for future references
Never thought of that! Thank you 😊
Thanks for explaining how to build these awesome nets! Do you know if installing screws is safe for the tree?
No problem! It is safe but it can expose your tree to outside harm since it uses its bark to protect itself. Just be careful and don’t leave exposed holes 😊
Very informative, thanks:-)
Freak yeah! Thank you, this is most excellent! 👍
Anytime 😊🙌🏼🙌🏼
But how do you do it?
Can you use cedar instead of pine?
Yeah almost any tree pro works 😊 You can even use old branches haha
Why do you not recommend zinc ? My experience is that zinc plating steel massively helps corrosion. Which is exactly why it’s so popular in all types of engineering.
It’s my understanding that anything outdoors should be stainless steel. Especially in areas that’ll see water… Zinc is much more susceptible to rust when exposed to moisture vs stainless steel which will last much much longer.
It’s common practice in rock climbing to avoid zinc plated steel in permanent fixed hardware for this exact reason.
I think it depends on location tbh. I live in a moderate rain, high humidity, high salinity area and my experience has been that zinc corrodes pretty quickly. I think material choice is probably best chosen based on research for your personal area?
Hey man I cant quite understand how you tensioned the rope, is there a better video here or on patreon on how to do that and what to buy?
I’m going to work on a video that explains all of that in better detail 😊 Stay Tuned!
Have you made the video of you actually using your tensioning method for tying the perimeter rope?
Not yet. I tentatively plan to make those videos this upcoming Fall. Possibly October timeframe
@@treenetweaves awesome!!! I look forward to em!! I just want to learn everything I need to know before I start to make my first tree net. Keep up the great content!!
Im playing around with making a net but can only find an i lag screw that’s only ) in king and the redwood trees have thick bark. Do you know if anyone makes longer ones or how to solve this problem?
Buy them online :) You’ll find more options there
Have you ever made a tree net inside of a crape mrytle tree? Sort of making a nest.
Not exactly but I would love to! 😊
can a coconut tree sustain the weight ?
Definitely so long as the tree is healthy and strong!
Alonso hi!!! could you explain in detail how the knots of the installation (skeleton) are made and how you tighten it? :)
Hi! Absolutely 😊 It may be a while but feel free to send me a message on Instagram and I can explain it there
I would also like to know how you do the skeleton portion bc you didn’t demonstrate it
@@sparky3881 The skeleton is essentially a way to make smaller shapes inside your really large shape. I typically use my insanity method to do this with some really static rope :)
@@treenetweaves is there a video that shows the perimeter rope installation?
I have a few questions! What mm paracord do you use for your main weaving? also where do you shop for these ropes because Rei is super expensive to get 10 mm rope for perimeter. then you said to use 7mm rope for skeleton. Correct? didn’t catch you saying what mm paracord you use… but yea that’s my questions . Where to shop would be a great help!
Standard 550 paracord for the entire thing :)
Any 7-10mm static rope works for the skeleton. I like sterling or Mammut personally but yes it is expensive.
I also use sterling or Mammut for my perimeter but up that to 10-12mm
Rope isn’t cheap haha but if you want it done right you have to pay this price :)
@@treenetweaves thanks alot I’ve watched every video you made on building these cool nets lol. I realized in one of your older videos you didn’t wrap around every intersect twice and was like HEY YOURE DOING IT WRONG LOL . Would like to see a video on how you do like side walls and more vertical nets that like go up levels as well. also a video on how you build the perimeters for your nets that you take down afterwards would be cool. keep up the videos 👍
@@treenetweaves thanks for the info! You didn’t mention where to shop for these ropes . Also a video demonstrating how you tension the perimeter rope would be super helpful . Seen others on TikTok asking how it’s done and I’m also curious how it’s done and how you then tie off
When you say put tension on the rope then release it after you tie the knot, cant i just tie a tensionalble knot that i can tie off somewhere?
I’ve been getting this question a lot so I’m going to make a video that explains this in detail 😊
How bad will a used dymanic rope really be here? I have access to a ton of used dynamic rope.
Depends how used… If your treenet isn’t gonna be high off the ground then I’d do it but otherwise I’d buy new static rope 😊
What is the life of a tree net once installed out in the elements?
It depends on a few factors like how well shaded the net is and how harsh the UV rays get in your area. On average I’d say 5-7 years. If it’s well taken care of it can last well over a decade
Ive watched all your videos and I have a question. Someone on reddit told me that polyester rope will only last a year, but that Nylon rope will last a decade. How much truth is there to this? Ive been trying to research if one is preferable but can't find much info. Do you have a specific rope you recommend or any amazon affiliate links for the stuff you'd normally use? Thanks for the content, I'll soon be starting a net in my backyard!
For the Paracord this matters most. Polyester Paracord becomes really brittle over time and doesn’t do as well in the sunlight…
Thank you! Ive been in this rabbit hole for a week, much appreciated
@@treenetweaves
Where can I buy static rope? on budget
Honestly nowhere.. The only way to get it budget friendly is to buy in bulk which is what I do.. Most static ropes will cost anywhere between $1-$2 per foot and it’s usually the most expensive part of the netting process
Could you put this all on a pdf or book?
I probably could yes but it would be a ton of work.. In the future maybe 😊
Try playback speed 1.75
First big TY , also can you use non dry treated rope?
Liked/subscribed! You have some good content. Thank you for helping me get started with my treenet for my 3 boys. I dont have the cash to pay you too come do one for me or i absoulutley would! Ive got the perimeter and skeleton almost done. Rope is not cheep Haha. Question!? My net is odd shape squareish. Its about 15×20. I have one layer 7/16 perimeter nylon static. The question is would it benfit the perimeter to coil some more same thickness or does it need to be tensioned the same way? Will it strengthen it or not?
It will strengthen it since two strands will be sharing the load rather than one 😊 I hope this helps!
the alpine weaves link is dead
We’ve rebranded! 😊 New link is www.treenetweaves.com
What happened to your fingers? And how does it affect you when building these nets?
Lost then at birth and it makes weaving more fun haha 😊
are all the parts of the series going to be released at the same time or over a period of time?
Over a period of time 😊 Patrons will get all my videos as soon as I’m done editing so chances are those will be out in just a few weeks! I’m expecting everything to be out by early November on TH-cam for everybody else.
About How much does a space net cost total? (Time and money)
It all depends on the size but a standard 10x10x10 triangle will take around $200 and 8 hours of labor. This changes on how quickly you can weave as well. Expect 10-12 hours of labor for your first one.
great idea !!
Hey brother, so I have 1250 lb test muletape rope, we use it at work for pulling fiber optic cables through ducts, and when they use it, they throw it away afterwards, so I currently have several thousand feet of this rope, do you think it'd be safe for this?
Like, I was planning on making one of these today for my little cousin to have fun up in. I think if I maybe double wrap everything, it could work out nicely, but I am still unsure.
I’d say that’s questionable as far as the perimeter goes.. I would use that for the weave no problem though! 😊
B u g s
Took me five whole minutes to notice he’s missing digits. I’m no scientist but I’d say it has something to do with working with incredible tension and making a mistake.
If I were you, safety is the first thing I’d talk about.
Hahaha that is pretty funny but it was just a birth thing 🙃
A video on safety is a really good idea though! I’ll work something up. Thanks!
It is bomber😂
Basic power drill pulls out m18 Milwaukee
Fair 🤣 But any power drill will work so long as the tree isn’t a really hard one
@@treenetweaves I know I’m a dewalt man myself although have you played with milwaukees m12 range so nice 👌
I went to my local sports store and got some rope. I said I wanted something strong to climb on. I needed 600ft. He brought me 3 200ft ropes, cost me $1800 bucks. It better be good.
Geez…. That’s really expensive. I think you should look online and return that
Please tell me losing fingers is not a consequence of treenetting
Hahahaha no it’s not 🤣
about the first ,two sec of vid....Are you Glammin me Bro?
jk thanks for vid . are you just going for tight as possible perimeter? as tight as your pulleys get it ? 100lbs? how you measure?
Tighter is better but be careful not to go toooooo tight haha. You don’t want to break your trees or rope.
Umm. I didn't real learn that much from this... why didn't you walk us through tensioning the rope.
Yeah I totally missed the details there but I’ll be updating this video in the near future when the time is right 😊 Thanks for your feedback!
what happened to your hands
Weaving accident….. 😓
Kidding! Born like this haha
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maybe the most moronic thing I've ever witnessed