I've no idea how St. Louis fans felt. They had a fit in Baltimore and very angry in Cleveland. I just always felt that by yanking tradition away from a town, with it's identity strongly rooted in that sports team, the NFL made it's product appear disposable and cheap. They can't be anything else but the St. Louis Cardinals, now misplaced as an Arizona team. They will always be the Baltimore Colts, too, IMHO. Then you have free agency, which I support from a worker's standpoint, but it takes team allegience and tradition out of the pro game. Players today don't necessarily have a great identification with the city they are currently playing in because they could be playing elsewhere next year. This type of stuff doesn't help the league.
Hi Tommy, When the Cardinals left after the 1987 season, St. Louis wasn’t as angry as either Baltimore losing the Colts or Cleveland losing the original Browns. Owner Bill Bidwill allowed the team to deteriorate and kept whining for a new stadium, and fans just got tired of the drama. Plus the baseball Cardinals were perennial winners and the hockey Blues were always competitive. It was a different story when the Rams went back to LA. I don’t blame Stan Kroenke and the NFL wanting a franchise in LA - it’s the 2nd largest U.S. metro area - I get it. But it was the falsehoods and outright lies that Kroenke, Roger Goodell, and Jerry Jones spewed to trash St. Louis and claim the fans weren’t worthy of a team. So, STL was far angrier when the Rams left. The NFL settled out of court, awarding about $900 million to St. Louis, St. Louis County, and the Convention Center (I’m not sure of their official name) in the aftermath, so obviously, there was a strong case that the NFL was guilty of malfeasance.
R.I.P., St. Louis (football) Cardinals...1960-1987. R.I.P., St. Louis Rams..........................1995-2015. Hopefully NFL football will return to The Gateway City again someday.
ChihuahuaboyDH I'm sure it will. Just think when the Cardinals and Rams come back to play this St Louis NFL team, you'll have a great reason to jeer and let those boo birds fly.
@@geminijamie1 If Bill Bidwell actually built a competitive team, maybe people would watch it! The only city in all of sports that has a great team...but ZERO fan-support...is St. Petersburg. The Rays are a great baseball team, but nobody cares. The Cardinals never even tried to be competitive. They had NO home playoff games at Busch Stadium! Even the Patriots had one during that time (1978). For that matter, there had been times when the Patriots drew less than 30,000 to watch a lousy team at a lousy stadium; but, when they had a good team, people came to see it. Imagine that! Bill Bidwell was an idiot who never got the concept.
I live in Arizona and wen i moved here i adopted the cardinals and all sports teams. It just comes down 2 money and new stadium's that owners hold these fans and sports cities 2 build me a new stadium or im moving the team.every team that has moved has come down to the that.
As an Arizona Cardinals fan, I feel conflicted because I agree that the Bidwells are dirty and they really screwed St. Louis over. But we love the Cardinals so much here, I wish you could come here and see just how important the team is to the entire state of Arizona, for better or for worse (because with the Cards, it's always worse). I empathize with what you feel, but I hope you see the one positive in their move, that being the team became ingrained in an entire state's culture.
Fact that can stump most trivia experts: The Cardinals are the oldest continuously operating professional football team. Yes, older than the Bears, Packers, Giants, and Steelers! They started as the Racine Street Cardinals in Chicago then renamed the Chicago Cardinals. (Yes, Chicago had 2 NFL teams from 1920-1959!). The Cardinals moved to St. Louis in 1960, then moved to Phoenix in 1988.
My first NFL game was at Sportsmans Park (Busch Stadium #1)...Anheiser-Busch Brewery wanted to be the only game in town, sadly the "BIG RED" were treated like the ugly step son....I remember #8 walking off the field, grass stains and muddy. RIP Wildcat Wilson, Mr. Bidwill, Coach Hanifan, John David Crowe, and # 88 J V Caine...Long Live #9 Big Blue...Bob Pettit
I still have a Baltimore Cardinals shirt. Couldn't believe they moved to Phoenix. I mean, I would choose Phoenix over Baltimore too, but still...couldn't believe it. lol
@@stephenbrand5661 It was rumored that the Cardinals were moving to Baltimore from St. Louis. Many places in and around the Baltimore area sold Baltimore Cardinals merchandise.
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I've no idea how St. Louis fans felt. They had a fit in Baltimore and very angry in Cleveland. I just always felt that by yanking tradition away from a town, with it's identity strongly rooted in that sports team, the NFL made it's product appear disposable and cheap. They can't be anything else but the St. Louis Cardinals, now misplaced as an Arizona team. They will always be the Baltimore Colts, too, IMHO. Then you have free agency, which I support from a worker's standpoint, but it takes team allegience and tradition out of the pro game. Players today don't necessarily have a great identification with the city they are currently playing in because they could be playing elsewhere next year. This type of stuff doesn't help the league.
Agree 100%. It certainly hurt the league.
I still remember being in Washington DC, and seeing Baltimore sneak out in the middle of the night, thinking WTF!
@@w41duvernay In all fairness, Bob Irsay had to do it. The state of Maryland was threatening to steal his team by eminent domain.
My dad was a big football Cardinals fan and was happy they left since Bidwill wasn't trying to win here.
Hi Tommy,
When the Cardinals left after the 1987 season, St. Louis wasn’t as angry as either Baltimore losing the Colts or Cleveland losing the original Browns. Owner Bill Bidwill allowed the team to deteriorate and kept whining for a new stadium, and fans just got tired of the drama. Plus the baseball Cardinals were perennial winners and the hockey Blues were always competitive.
It was a different story when the Rams went back to LA. I don’t blame Stan Kroenke and the NFL wanting a franchise in LA - it’s the 2nd largest U.S. metro area - I get it. But it was the falsehoods and outright lies that Kroenke, Roger Goodell, and Jerry Jones spewed to trash St. Louis and claim the fans weren’t worthy of a team. So, STL was far angrier when the Rams left.
The NFL settled out of court, awarding about $900 million to St. Louis, St. Louis County, and the Convention Center (I’m not sure of their official name) in the aftermath, so obviously, there was a strong case that the NFL was guilty of malfeasance.
R.I.P., St. Louis (football) Cardinals...1960-1987.
R.I.P., St. Louis Rams..........................1995-2015.
Hopefully NFL football will return to The Gateway City again someday.
Never going to happen in less it's an expansion team.
Major League Soccer will be in St.Louis.
I doubt it
ChihuahuaboyDH I'm sure it will. Just think when the Cardinals and Rams come back to play this St Louis NFL team, you'll have a great reason to jeer and let those boo birds fly.
@@geminijamie1 If Bill Bidwell actually built a competitive team, maybe people would watch it! The only city in all of sports that has a great team...but ZERO fan-support...is St. Petersburg. The Rays are a great baseball team, but nobody cares. The Cardinals never even tried to be competitive. They had NO home playoff games at Busch Stadium! Even the Patriots had one during that time (1978). For that matter, there had been times when the Patriots drew less than 30,000 to watch a lousy team at a lousy stadium; but, when they had a good team, people came to see it. Imagine that! Bill Bidwell was an idiot who never got the concept.
I have this entire game on VHS somewhere in my house.
Edit: I found the tape but sadly I had taped over it. D'oh!
@@Rockhound6165 snap off the plastic bit to avoid taping over it
@@seamusmckeon9109 unfortunately too late. As I said above I had already taped over it.
I live in Arizona and wen i moved here i adopted the cardinals and all sports teams. It just comes down 2 money and new stadium's that owners hold these fans and sports cities 2 build me a new stadium or im moving the team.every team that has moved has come down to the that.
I was at this game. Still hurts that they left.Nomatter what anyone says the Cardinals had great fan support !! Bill Bidwell lied.
As an Arizona Cardinals fan, I feel conflicted because I agree that the Bidwells are dirty and they really screwed St. Louis over. But we love the Cardinals so much here, I wish you could come here and see just how important the team is to the entire state of Arizona, for better or for worse (because with the Cards, it's always worse). I empathize with what you feel, but I hope you see the one positive in their move, that being the team became ingrained in an entire state's culture.
And tonight we see Rams V. Cardinals. 2 teams that played in St. Louis, and since...I'm drunk
We can't keep a NFL team. Lol
Only 29, 000 for the final home game?
Fact that can stump most trivia experts: The Cardinals are the oldest continuously operating professional football team. Yes, older than the Bears, Packers, Giants, and Steelers!
They started as the Racine Street Cardinals in Chicago then renamed the Chicago Cardinals. (Yes, Chicago had 2 NFL teams from 1920-1959!). The Cardinals moved to St. Louis in 1960, then moved to Phoenix in 1988.
Only team who can legitimately say they've been in the game since the 1800s.
I was at the game. Sad it was their last here.
Zip Rzeppa!
Sad that the St Louis fans have now seen their last home game again - this time for the Rams.
Via Sikahema NBA 10!
Jay Randolph doing Cardinals highlights with Gary Human’s Cars playing in the background.
Can’t get any more 80s than that.
u need to join a gang ..?
Dudes talking about speed then says he wizzed by the punter like that's an amazing feat 😂
My first NFL game was at Busch stadium. I will follow the cards wherever they go
My first NFL game was at Sportsmans Park (Busch Stadium #1)...Anheiser-Busch Brewery wanted to be the only game in town, sadly the "BIG RED" were treated like the ugly step son....I remember #8 walking off the field, grass stains and muddy. RIP Wildcat Wilson, Mr. Bidwill, Coach Hanifan, John David Crowe, and # 88 J V Caine...Long Live #9 Big Blue...Bob Pettit
I still have a Baltimore Cardinals shirt. Couldn't believe they moved to Phoenix. I mean, I would choose Phoenix over Baltimore too, but still...couldn't believe it. lol
The Cardinals moved to Arizona from St. Louis, not Baltimore. If you have a Baltimore Cardinals shirt it's not for an NFL team.
@@stephenbrand5661 It was rumored that the Cardinals were moving to Baltimore from St. Louis. Many places in and around the Baltimore area sold Baltimore Cardinals merchandise.
@@BaltimoreColt ohhh ok
@@stephenbrand5661Chicago
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