Twenty three years ago is more recent but not 'recent.' Besides, Dallas and San Fran are still some of the profitable and popular sports teams in the world, while Saint Louis cant even keep a team. 😅
The 49ers came so close this year. Damn it! Although funny enough it shouldn't even count as an SF title if they won since they play in Santa Clara which is 45 minutes to an hour south of SF and really should be a San Jose title since Santa Clara is literally right next to San Jose.
As an 80s kid in Missouri, we had a joke: A kid was sitting in the witness chair at divorce court. The judge asked him, "Young man, which parent would you rather live with? Your mother, or your father?" The kid replied, "Well, judge, I don't wanna live with dad because he beats me. But I don't wanna live with mom either because she beats me too!" The judge asked, "Well, then, who DO you want to live with?" The kid answered, "I wanna live with the St. Louis football Cardinals, 'cuz they never beat anybody!"
I was born in LA and was a Rams fan from the late '60s. The only reason they moved is because their good owner, Carroll Rosenbloom, died by drowning, and was replaced by their bad owner, his widow. It never made much sense to move out of a West Coast city that had a pretty good football tradition (Rams led the league in attendance in the '60s and '70s, and USC and UCLA had popular college football programs) to a midwestern city with less than a fifth of LA's population. St. Louis took advantage of its opportunity, eventually, but I think the writing was always on the wall for the St. Louis Rams.
I love my Rams I've been a fan since 1993 and still a Rams fan Haters gonna Hate I've would of Subscribed but till the end of watching u say u hate my team I won't. HAVE A GREAT DAY & STAY OFF THEM DRUGS MY GUY
@@gregbaldwin5144 Yeah, I'm pumped over the BattleHawks, because I love football and I want spring football to succeed. But, then again, if I didn't love spring football, I'd be crying too, so I understand your reaction.
St. Louisan here--this is so true. And it's worth noting that it's not just the NFL. We've lost a baseball team (the Baltimore Orioles were once the St. Louis Browns) and an NBA team (the Atlanta Hawks used to be in St. Louis).
I grew up a baseball Cardinals fan, and liked the football Cardinals too. (I lived nowhere near St.Louis, I just liked your teams). I have wondered why there hasn’t been a pro basketball team in St. Louis since the ABA’s Spirits. And no college in St. Louis has ever been prominent in basketball, despite the city being host to the Final 4 umteen times.
Surprised you didn't mention Super Bowl 53 when the Rams failed to avenge their loss to the Patriots, in one of the lowest scoring Super Bowls in the modern era
I remember as kid watching the St. Louis Cardinals play and they were in the NFC East back then. I lived in South Florida and was a Dolphin fan but I would always pull for the Cardinals, and Otis Anderson too he was a Hurricane in his college days. Memories of Jim Hart and Neil Lomax.
Why is it a city’s and/or state’s responsibility to build these billion dollar corporations the buildings they do business in? And no one say anything about revenue or jobs these corporations create, because that is just plain wrong. No way in hell should one tax dollar ever be given to any corporation, but especially ones that are part of the richest union of corporations in the country. (That’s what a sports league is) Especially since every major sports union of corporations has banned community ownership such as the most successful organization has. (The Packers have won the most nfl championships) But all this video was was a history of the cardinals and the rams. Where was the betrayal? That they moved after moving from other cities? But I am glad to hear you hate the Rams- same reason I am no longer a raider fan. The davises have been more interested in moving than winning.
Great video! As a St. Louisan and former diehard Rams fan I feel your pain. If the XFL/UFL ever folds I like to dream that the owners somehow make a deal with the NFL to have the Battlehawks join as an expansion team or something
St Louis needs its own team that was birthed here. The Cardinals and Rams were teams that weren't ours, we were "foster parents" whose job was to keep those teams temporarily.
Correct, Cardinals are the oldest NFL team and started in Chicago. Rams started in Cleveland before moving to Los Angeles. But I will say this. St. Louis is a baseball city not a football city. I moved from Topeka, KS to Jacksonville, FL in the summer of 2000. Rams had just won the Super Bowl that January and I saw more Cardinals and Blues stickers on cars than I did the Rams when I drove through St. Louis during dinner rush hour traffic.
I wasn't alive at that time (I was born in 1995, the year the Rams moved), but I have done alot of research on the Rams move to St. Louis. From what I gathered, the Rams NEVER should've been allowed to move to STL in the first place. In fact, they initially WEREN'T allowed to move, until the NFL was forced to allow it after Georgia threatened a lawsuit (it looks like the lawsuit was more of a veiled threat, but the league was still reeling from Al Davis' lawsuit to move the Raiders to LA in 1982). "Once the bridges have been burned and people get turned off on a sports franchise, years of loyalty is not respected and it is difficult to get it back. By the same token, there are millions of fans in that area who have supported the Rams in an extraordinary way. The Rams have 50 years of history and the last 5 or so years of difficult times can be corrected." - Paul Tagliabue after league owners rejected Frontiere's bid to move the Rams on March 15, 1995.
But,those cities still have NFL and/or NBA teams that are currently active while St. Louis has been whittled down to the MLB Cardinals and the NHL Blues. The other cities that you listed,at least,still have a chance at acquiring championship status in professional football or basketball. The days of NBA and ESPECIALLY NFL affiliations in St. Louis are a thing of the past. Unfortunately,like many other Midwestern American cities,St. Louis is on life-support and will never attain the popular status it once enjoyed,historically. Nothing wrong with having a little bit of local pride,however.
@@myleslong5584 I agree with you. I live in Southern Ill. Most people around here think of St. Louis as "their" city. The baseball Cardinals are very popular. But St. Louis has lost a lot of population and it has a terrible crime problem. Yes, I think St. Louis's glory days are over.
I haven't watched a nfl game since the Rams left 8 years ago. I refuse to watch a nfl game unless a team calls St Louis home and the stupid chiefs don't represent St Louis. The Battlehawks are my team and the entire nfl can suck it
I moved to St Louis in 94, and left in 97. I was a huge Rams fan, and remained a fan until they left. What I never understood, the stadium was LESS than 20 years old when the team bolted. Why, what was wrong with the stadium, or was it all Stan Donkey being a jackass just wanting more money?
The stadium wasn't very great even being as new as it was, but that was about 25% of the REAL reason they left, the other 75% is Kroenke being the devil incarnate
The Dome isn't nearly as bad a stadium as some say, but it was clearly built on the cheap and rushed so that St Louis could get a team back ASAP. If they took their time and built a stadium with a little more personality, like Busch Stadium, it would have lasted longer. I went to a few BattleHawks games this past year, and the Dome was a perfectly average venue, not bad, not great.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Never again, NFL. Stay the hell out of St. Louis. (And Missouri too, for that matter - hopefully the Chiefs move across the border to Kansas.)
I thought this was a Urinating Tree video at first from the thumbnail, but I was pleasantly suprised by how well constructed this video was It's criminal of how many subs you have, only being 600, hoping you find more success in the future!
As a fellow St.louisin, it is a shame that the Rams left. But i was never really a fan of them. Became a fan of the AZ Cardinals during the Kurt Warner run to the super bowl era as well because of my dad owning a bunch of old cardinals stuff from the 70s. Great video by the way. Popped up in my recommendation and thought it looked interesting.
@@thesuperostrich So do I. I HATE the Commanders name! That's not to say I'm a fan of "Redskins", but it's just what I've always known them as (and will continue to know them as)
Chiefs wanted the rams to move. They’re were only a few teams that voted against the rams moving I think it was the eagles, packers, cardinals, and chargers
Glad this video came my way great stuff and yeah crazy that between the cardinals and rams there was only like 8 successful seasons in St Louis. Also weird that I wish the rams never switched uniforms but also thought the navy gold and white was a better look. I also always move Washington to STL in madden
As a Rams fan from the time I was young (1960's, 1970's), I am biased about the lighter, royal blue like uniforms from my childhood. Believe me, I understand the hurt of the Rams moving. 1994 and 1995 were not a good time for me. By the time the Rams came home, I was a Patriots and Packers fan and didn't care a lot about it.
That really is about it. The Rams were the best and worst of times for NFL football in St. Louis. I would say 4 very good seasons from the Rams, 3 years of Don Coryell Big Red teams in the 1970s, and 2 or 3 teams in the 1960s the best. The Big Red mainly mediocre.and there was not a playoff for most of the 1960s unless there was a tie for first place so never a playoff win. The 1964 playoff win he mentions of the Cardinals over Green Bay was actually only a short lived playoff games of runner-ups Green Bay in the West and St. Louis in the East with no advavcement. I followed it all and as seen by the Battle Hawks attendance wish St. Louis would get an expansion team but like he says owners committed to the region for private invesment like just happened for the new soccer stadium and team is key. It did make sense Stan Kroenke would want the much larger TV market of L.A.. . It is obvious seeing what has been happening for the Dodgers.
St. Louis, not Jacksonville, should have gotten the NFL expansion team in 1995. I still say the Jacksonville Jaguars should relocate to St. Louis and still remain in the AFC South with nearby cities Nashville and Indianapolis. Even the dome is still better than Jacksonville’s stadium. The Gator Bowl is a dump!
If you ever get a chance to hear Howard Balzer talk on the subject, who does he say was largely responsible for the Jaguars winding up in Jacksonville? Señor Stan himself, as he refused to work with the group pursuing the expansion team. But also to the point of the video: St. Louis needs an expansion team of their own. No more relocations.
Read this closely. That’s not happening. It won’t ever happen. Also, there is no “Gator Bowl”, there’s Everbank Field, and it’s getting a two billion dollar renovation, so it will look much like, ironically, SoFi. The Jags and the city are working together to ensure the Jaguars remain in Jacksonville for a long time.
“Better” football towns don’t lose two NFL teams. Jax continuously outdrew the Rams when they were in St Louis. Get the fantasy of the Jaguars moving out of your head. It’ll never happen.
The attendance only fell after the Rams sucked for a long time, 2007-15. If the Rams were still in St. Louis with the current coaching regime and winning seasons and superbowl trophy attendance would be back to greatest show on turf era.
This is a great video! What sucks is my family and I always talk about how we miss the Stl rams. I actually threw away all my Rams stuff when they moved.
Even though they had losing seasons I still stuck with them and watch religiously. Oh well, maybe in an alternate dimension they stayed in STL. @@cardsfan1590
The NFL, for some reason, hates our city. They did not want the Rams to be here in the first place. Even when the Dome was new it was made clear there would be no Suler Bowls played in STL (too far North...unlike Detroit I guess). We followed the NFL own rules to keep the team with an actionable stadium ready to be built and the Rams moved before San Diego or Oakland! I no longer watch the NFL. Why watch a league that publicly badmouthed where I live and had two teams move away? Give me college football. The teams may conference realign, but the teams don't leave their fans.
As a Los Angeles Rams fan I get your anger. I know it’s hard not only watching them win a Super Bowl at their home stadium, but be rewarded with large concerts and major international sporting events. I do like SoFi though. If I do ever visit St. Louis and wear Rams gear will there be issues? (it has the LA horn logo).
@@boogitybear2283 yeah my neighbor is an Allegiant Stadium season ticket holder so I know when he’s gone. Plus I guess this can be attributed to the Raiders staying in California until 2020 and Al Davis wanting a unified brand rather than being in one location.
@@boogitybear2283 Had the owners actually listened to their LA committee, the Rams don't leave St. Louis and that Vegas stadium (which just finished hosting a Super Bowl) would have instead been built in Carson, hosting the Raiders and Chargers.
I’d think you’d be fine brother. When the rams were in the Super Bowl a few years ago I saw people out wearing their rams gear. I didn’t say anything but thought it was dumb
I think the biggest betrayal was from the cardinals, Rams were in LA since 1946 so they belonged in LA but Georgia Frontiere was from St Louis and wanted them there, which her husband rosenbloom would NOT have done, that is why LA does not name the name of Georgia Frontiere. Who really should hate is the Cardinals they were the original STL football team
Spot on. I’ve lived in Saint Louis my entire life and cards and blues are beloved because they are basically part of the city. Even the new soccer team is selling out. The rams seemed soulless by the end and they never became a part of the city. No relocation is ever going to work in St. Louis.
St. Louis will get another team, don't know if the Battle Hawks made the 8 team cut for UFL but if they did just show up and pack the place, that'll get the NFL wanting some of that money
Your 2024 UFL teams: XFL Conference: St. Louis BattleHawks, Arlington Renegades, DC Defenders, San Antonio Brahmas USFL Conference: Birmingham Stallions, Memphis Showboats, Michigan Panthers, Houston Roughnecks (the two Houston teams merged, keeping the USFL roster and the XFL name)
@@coreylevine8095 anything can happen, if there's money in spring football the NFL will either merge it, acquire it then change it to some weird branding, or start their own and run UFL out of business. I'm more on the lines of acquire then maybe sign all the practice squad guys and guys trying to make the league but went undrafted
I was a foreigner growing up loving the greatest show on turf of the St. Louis Rams. It was my dream to go see the game for real one day. I'd finally made it in 2015. Unfortunately, It was the last year that the team I had known and loved was the team I grew up with. Deep down, I still wished that Kroenke didn't exercise his right and sold his share to Shad Khan. He's a greedy business mogul who only cares about money and hometown royalty doesn't matter to him at all.
Jacksonville should have moved to St Louis, nobody wants Jacksonville in FL, they have the Bucs and Dolphins, much more popular. Plus the owner is from St Louis, and they would play Nashville, Indianapolis and Houston, those are good regional division opponents geographically
Actually, the first St. Louis NFL team was when the Cincinnati Reds season got suspended. The St. Louis Gunners were brought up to NFL status after that for just one season in 1934 and then just moved to another league.
yeah, you talk about the betrayal of St Louis, how the betrayal of CLEVELAND!!?! the greatest football team in the world in the 50's. winning CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER CHAMPIONSHIP!!! then joining the NFL AND DOING THE SAME! coached by genius Paul Brown. did you know Brown invented the 'passing pocket'!!?! before this, linemen would stand at the line of scrimmage and BEAT EACH OTHERS BRAINS OUT, while receivers scrambled to get open for a pass! instead, in the huddle Cleveland linemen would say, "No one touches Otto Graham today!" Cleveland had a rivalry with Pittsburgh!! and then with Cincinnati (also coached by coach Brown)!!! then the 'stinky', 'stinky', 'stinky' owner of the CHAMPSHIP CALIBER Cleveland Browns moved them to Baltimore, where they won their first Superbowl, and Cleveland HAD NOTHING!!! years later, Cleveland got an 'expansion team' full of rookies and cast offs (AND NO COACH BROWN)!!!! and while Baltimore has been to Super Bowls, CLEVELAND HAS NOT!!!
The St Louis Rams looks way cooler than the Los Angeles rams. Both their logo, and outfits how far greater style. It's too bad for the Los Angeles rams, that they did not bring their sense of style along with them. During their move.
The Rams were in LA since the '50's and the Owner Carrol Rosenbloom died mysteriously, in 5ft of water; his side piece a Las Vegas Showgirl (Georgia Frontiere) took control of the Team and moved them to her Hometown of St Louis after running the Franchise into the ground in Anaheim. Allegedly, she received over $200M under the table.
@@ChillydontCap She actually WAS his sidepiece after he divorced his wife, who he was cheating on for YEARS with Georgia! BTW, the only reason she even inherited the Rams after Carroll's "accident" was because of a widows tax break law in California. Then she fired her son-in-law Steve (who SHOULD HAVE inherited the team, since he was already kind of running the team at the time) because he didn't get along with then-Rams general manager Don Klosterman (who himself would be fired a few years later after being thrown under the bus by Georgia during a breach of contract lawsuit by Fred Bryer in 1981).
THat Ricky Proehl catch was the most awesome thing that I had seen up to that point!! I was born in STL and I felt proud to be from there for the first time in a long time! LMAO
I remember what St. Louis couldn't get its act together during the last NFL expansion. The NFL was so desperate to have a team in St. Louis that they gave the city an extra month to shore up its bid package. St. Louis failed to do so, so the NFL reluctantly gave the franchise to Jacksonville. All the while, Baltimore had by far the best expansion package and greatly exceeded every NFL challenge. Kinda funny how things turned out, isn't it?
As I mentioned previously, Enos Stanley Kroenke played a very big role in Jacksonville getting the expansion team. Baltimore would eventually get an "expansion" team as the result of a stunt similar to Stan's pulled by a guy named Art Modell.
>had the cardinals for way longer >cardinals not successful >cardinals leave >cardinals continue to suck *no anger towards them* >get the rams >rams win SB >rams leave >rams win another SB *seething with hate for the rams*
Bottomline, the Rams left st louis because they(the Rams) were given the option to move when st louis refused to renovate that domed stadium and bring it up to par with the top 25% of the stadiums in the NFL as per the lease agreement! Honor the the terms of the lease and the Rams "would not" have been given the option to leave... That's what you people in st louis fail to acknowledge. Now deal with the consequences...
You didn’t mention the first major league team (AFL/NFL). From 1931-1940, the Saint Louis Gunners played in Saint Louis. They were in both the NFL and AFL during their years in Saint Louis. When they were purchased in 1940, they were moved and merged with the Cleveland Rams, with the former Gunners players now playing as a part of the Rams. When Georgia brought the Rams Saint Louis, it was not only a homecoming for her, but also a sort of homecoming for the Rams as well.
Ah, the St. Louis Rams. The '99-'03 Rams were very fun to watch. Much like the Sacramento Kings of the NBA in same era that were way ahead of their time. Very fun to watch. Injuries derailed potential dynasties. Rams were likeable versions of todays Chiefs, like the Kings were likeable version of todays Warriors.
Not sure if I want to see another NFL team in St. Louis. I don't trust the league at all and don't want to get emotionally invested in a team that they will just take away and give to another city in a few years.
That's why the city shouldn't push for a team unless it's guaranteed to stay in the city for at least a century, or better yet permanently. And no Top 25% BS stadium clause either, that's a big reason why the Rams were doomed to leave
The Rams weren't a long time OG St Louis team to begin with. They were from Cleveland in the 1920s before they moved to LA in the 50s and were there for 40 years. The Cardinals, though I can understand. Never made sense to me why they decided to leave in the first place
Probably so that the lads running the show are still cross about the namesake of the city and how it is he got that fancy title. Salty enough to push for a name change in recent times. Old grudges never die. Even brought it up when Notre Dame burned down as if most anyone remembers (except that lot).
That would have been the most logical outcome (sorry San Diego, but you never got a concrete stadium plan in place like St Louis did). Naturally the NFL chose the worst option, and now the Chargers play second fiddle in LA and are a complete afterthought. Even at Rams games the away fans sometimes outnumber the home fans, so LA is clearly not interested enough in the NFL to warrant getting two teams.
Kinda irrelevant, but the Chicago Cardinals moving to St. Louis is why my grandfather and others become Packers fans. The Cardinals were the Southside team and they'd be damned if they became Bears fans (North). That's a big reason why Chicago has a decent Packers contingent. That, and their franchise hasn't been run by senile inbreds the last 40 years, but we digress...
And they still show up and show out for sports in the dome over the other teams that left and can't sell out their "beloved home team" and they still don't sell out games in LA......Shameful
Does the worst dumpster fire of a city deserve an NFL team? Sure, Chicago is a bigger dumpster fire, but it's BIGGER. Per person, STL is worse. Note: I do live in STL.
I grew up with the Rams, and still kinda miss them. I switched to the Chiefs because of the Missouri connection and lack of any meaningful rivalry between the two; it was fun at first, but lately I find myself getting less excited for football season. I don't dislike the Chiefs, it just doesn't hit the same. And yes, I love the Battlehawks (and Missouri Tigers). I just miss NFL football in my backyard. I love football, and want it represented in my hometown at every level.
I loved the Dirty Birds, hated Bidwell. Loved my Rams, loved Georgia Frontier. Loved the Rams, hated Kroenke. Couldn't care less for the NFL as a whole now.
I think it was a huge mistake to not change the name of the Cardinals when they moved to St Louis. Keeping the Cardinals name meant they were always overshadowed by the much more successful baseball team. Looking back I also really wish either Shad Khan bought the team, or the city wouldn't have dragged its feet and actually upgraded the Dome. That top 25% lease was a HORRIBLE deal from the get go and should have never been signed. St Louis was getting impatient for a team but they should have just waited for an expansion team.
I don’t get how the authority at the dome now says it’s going to need 250M in upgrades for a facility that currently isn’t good enough to host ncaa tournament games, an NFL team, etc. two failed nfl franchises is enough. The NFL is a failed experiment now in saint Louis
My parent weren’t big on football while I was growing up but even they loved Kurt Warner. So much so that in later years when Warner took the AZ Cardinals to the Super Bowl, we all were routing for them.
I don't if it is mentioned but st louis had 4 nfl teams St. Louis has been the home of four National Football League (NFL) franchises. Three years after the NFL was founded in 1920, it accepted the St. Louis All-Stars as a franchise for the 1923 NFL season. Then 14-7. The second franchise was the St. Louis Gunners. The Gunners were an independent professional football team that played the last three games of the 1934 National Football League season, replacing the Cincinnati Reds on the league schedule after the Reds' league membership was suspended.
Man I was born and raised in Maryland, but i was always a Rams fan. Steven Jackson and Sam Bradford were my heroes and i was beyond devastated when they moved to LA. Thank you for this, indirectly allowed me to relive a bit of my childhood. Hopefully STL gets football back soon, i may be a jags fan now but when STL gets a team, you bet ill cheer for them to high hell. Oh, and fuck Stan Kroenke
Once the 3rd largest city in the U.S. and hosting the Olympics and World's Fair in the same year (1904) St. Louis is not even in the top 50 anymore (!!!). The slow but steady and never-ending loss of jobs and population has left the city with a far brighter past than future. I spent over two decades there, and will always love it, but facts are facts.
Your WR corps did the silly little hands up thing, which turned out to be a pure media lie. That turned a lot of people off, both in St. Louis and otherwise. It's a shame as some of Cozy's favorite players were St. Louis Rams. You get what you deserve.
I was born in 1970, so I grew up a Cardinals football fan. I tried staying with them when they moved to Arizona but it just wasn’t the same. I never called the Rams a St Louis team, they were a LA team to me. I don’t really have a NFL team anymore because St Louis doesn’t have one. I do follow the Battlehawks.
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This was really god damn good. Fivepointvids & UTree need to see this.
Tom Grossi, Scooter. Brandon Perna, and others as well
@@PenguinNote67 Also Jaguar Gator 9
It’s sad and all, but I still find it funny that St. Louis still has more recent SB title than San Francisco and Dallas.
as arizona cardnals fan that hit hard
Twenty three years ago is more recent but not 'recent.' Besides, Dallas and San Fran are still some of the profitable and popular sports teams in the world, while Saint Louis cant even keep a team. 😅
The 49ers came so close this year. Damn it! Although funny enough it shouldn't even count as an SF title if they won since they play in Santa Clara which is 45 minutes to an hour south of SF and really should be a San Jose title since Santa Clara is literally right next to San Jose.
Whooopieee 🎉 just one 😂
@@MrDlt123Looks like somebody’s salty their franchise sucks haha
I was born in 1998 and I grew up a Saint Louis Rams fan, but when they moved back to Los Angeles in 2016, they are dead to me.
As an 80s kid in Missouri, we had a joke:
A kid was sitting in the witness chair at divorce court. The judge asked him, "Young man, which parent would you rather live with? Your mother, or your father?"
The kid replied, "Well, judge, I don't wanna live with dad because he beats me. But I don't wanna live with mom either because she beats me too!"
The judge asked, "Well, then, who DO you want to live with?"
The kid answered, "I wanna live with the St. Louis football Cardinals, 'cuz they never beat anybody!"
As a STL native you hit the nail on the head. I don’t want another franchise to move to STL I want a team born and raised
7:31 National car Rental Field would be a lot happier for the new NFL team, a new MLR Team and UFL’s Battlehawks for St. Louis, Missouri
I was born in LA and was a Rams fan from the late '60s. The only reason they moved is because their good owner, Carroll Rosenbloom, died by drowning, and was replaced by their bad owner, his widow. It never made much sense to move out of a West Coast city that had a pretty good football tradition (Rams led the league in attendance in the '60s and '70s, and USC and UCLA had popular college football programs) to a midwestern city with less than a fifth of LA's population. St. Louis took advantage of its opportunity, eventually, but I think the writing was always on the wall for the St. Louis Rams.
Honestly, I dont think the Rams should've left St. Louis.
I have a soft for the football cardinals, love the logo, the angry birds
FYI - the Rams were not known as the "greatest show on turf" until AFTER they had won the Super Bowl.
It's been a minute but I don't think that's true
@@chrischar9428 it's true. Nobody called them that until the middle of the following season.
@@chrischar9428 All the way back in the year 2000, the sports commentator Chris Berman came up with the now-famous nickname for the St. Louis Rams.
I love my Rams I've been a fan since 1993 and still a Rams fan Haters gonna Hate I've would of Subscribed but till the end of watching u say u hate my team I won't. HAVE A GREAT DAY & STAY OFF THEM DRUGS MY GUY
Sux when you steal 2 teams & somebody else steals them from you.
They didn't move to Racine. They played on Racine Avenue in Chicago
If nothing else, St. Louis has the Battlehawks.
And They Draw better than any team in that league that should tell the NFL something
Do you hear yourself talking??? You are pumped over the "battlehawks" lol! I'm crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gregbaldwin5144 Yeah, I'm pumped over the BattleHawks, because I love football and I want spring football to succeed.
But, then again, if I didn't love spring football, I'd be crying too, so I understand your reaction.
We've got Luther Burden and Brady Cook
@@gregbaldwin5144 Asshole
St. Louisan here--this is so true. And it's worth noting that it's not just the NFL. We've lost a baseball team (the Baltimore Orioles were once the St. Louis Browns) and an NBA team (the Atlanta Hawks used to be in St. Louis).
I grew up a baseball Cardinals fan, and liked the football Cardinals too. (I lived nowhere near St.Louis, I just liked your teams).
I have wondered why there hasn’t been a pro basketball team in St. Louis since the ABA’s Spirits. And no college in St. Louis has ever been prominent in basketball, despite the city being host to the Final 4 umteen times.
The Browns had to move. They weren't drawing flies and only had 1 pennant. Moving to Baltimore was the best thing that ever happened to them.
Interesting -- every team named the Browns ends up moving to Baltimore!
@@brianarbenz1329 that's actually a good point.
We used to have a MLS team before the current one and both the MLS team and the NBA team won a championship
Surprised you didn't mention Super Bowl 53 when the Rams failed to avenge their loss to the Patriots, in one of the lowest scoring Super Bowls in the modern era
That Super Bowl was forgettable
The refs gave the Rams a spot in that game. No wonder they sucked
I force myself to forget that game.
@@gbalph4 I just say the Saints won 28-3
@@someperson3883 yeah we won 56 anyways and at home
I remember as kid watching the St. Louis Cardinals play and they were in the NFC East back then. I lived in South Florida and was a Dolphin fan but I would always pull for the Cardinals, and Otis Anderson too he was a Hurricane in his college days. Memories of Jim Hart and Neil Lomax.
Relocation only hurts the fans
we pretty happy out in az😊
@inkwetrust-nq1sj are you though? Lol
Teams you get through relocation are bottom of the barrel trash.
Why is it a city’s and/or state’s responsibility to build these billion dollar corporations the buildings they do business in? And no one say anything about revenue or jobs these corporations create, because that is just plain wrong.
No way in hell should one tax dollar ever be given to any corporation, but especially ones that are part of the richest union of corporations in the country. (That’s what a sports league is)
Especially since every major sports union of corporations has banned community ownership such as the most successful organization has. (The Packers have won the most nfl championships)
But all this video was was a history of the cardinals and the rams. Where was the betrayal? That they moved after moving from other cities?
But I am glad to hear you hate the Rams- same reason I am no longer a raider fan. The davises have been more interested in moving than winning.
Great video! As a St. Louisan and former diehard Rams fan I feel your pain. If the XFL/UFL ever folds I like to dream that the owners somehow make a deal with the NFL to have the Battlehawks join as an expansion team or something
There was once the Cardinals. There was once the Rams.
Now, the kaw is law.
KA KAW
The Rams also made it to the NFC Championship Game in 1985, where they got shut out by the Bears
As the Los Angeles Rams before they move in 1994
@@brandedmcgowan9414 right, but that’s the era the narrator was talking about when I made the comment.
@@JeffWiersma right on👍🏿
St Louis needs its own team that was birthed here. The Cardinals and Rams were teams that weren't ours, we were "foster parents" whose job was to keep those teams temporarily.
Correct, Cardinals are the oldest NFL team and started in Chicago. Rams started in Cleveland before moving to Los Angeles.
But I will say this. St. Louis is a baseball city not a football city. I moved from Topeka, KS to Jacksonville, FL in the summer of 2000. Rams had just won the Super Bowl that January and I saw more Cardinals and Blues stickers on cars than I did the Rams when I drove through St. Louis during dinner rush hour traffic.
@@LdyVder They need a new stadium there and just keep the name "Battlehawks" and the teams current cool colors and all will be well !!
Why no one talk about Georgia Frontiere and her nonsene
Exactly. She was a a terrible person. Became an NFL owner by spreading.
@@Scott-vk4jv she murdered Rosenbloom
TF YOU BABBLING ABOUT
I wasn't alive at that time (I was born in 1995, the year the Rams moved), but I have done alot of research on the Rams move to St. Louis. From what I gathered, the Rams NEVER should've been allowed to move to STL in the first place. In fact, they initially WEREN'T allowed to move, until the NFL was forced to allow it after Georgia threatened a lawsuit (it looks like the lawsuit was more of a veiled threat, but the league was still reeling from Al Davis' lawsuit to move the Raiders to LA in 1982).
"Once the bridges have been burned and people get turned off on a sports franchise, years of loyalty is not respected and it is difficult to get it back. By the same token, there are millions of fans in that area who have supported the Rams in an extraordinary way. The Rams have 50 years of history and the last 5 or so years of difficult times can be corrected."
- Paul Tagliabue after league owners rejected Frontiere's bid to move the Rams on March 15, 1995.
@@saryphxWe know 5 years after that for the 1999 Rams
Just a reminder St. Louis has more superbowls and NBA championships than Phoenix, Atlanta, Charlotte, New Orleans and a few more.
But,those cities still have NFL and/or NBA teams that are currently active while St. Louis has been whittled down to the MLB Cardinals and the NHL Blues. The other cities that you listed,at least,still have a chance at acquiring championship status in professional football or basketball. The days of NBA and ESPECIALLY NFL affiliations in St. Louis are a thing of the past. Unfortunately,like many other Midwestern American cities,St. Louis is on life-support and will never attain the popular status it once enjoyed,historically. Nothing wrong with having a little bit of local pride,however.
@@myleslong5584 I agree with you. I live in Southern Ill. Most people around here think of St. Louis as "their" city. The baseball Cardinals are very popular. But St. Louis has lost a lot of population and it has a terrible crime problem. Yes, I think St. Louis's glory days are over.
I wouldn't put Minneapolis in there before 1960
@@coreylevine8095 Good call. I’ll edit.
All St. Louis has left are the baseball Cardinals and the Blues, and they both suck.
I haven't watched a nfl game since the Rams left 8 years ago. I refuse to watch a nfl game unless a team calls St Louis home and the stupid chiefs don't represent St Louis. The Battlehawks are my team and the entire nfl can suck it
I moved to St Louis in 94, and left in 97. I was a huge Rams fan, and remained a fan until they left. What I never understood, the stadium was LESS than 20 years old when the team bolted. Why, what was wrong with the stadium, or was it all Stan Donkey being a jackass just wanting more money?
The stadium wasn't very great even being as new as it was, but that was about 25% of the REAL reason they left, the other 75% is Kroenke being the devil incarnate
@@duckman6422 So, Kroenke was Georgia Frontiere?
@@saryphx the rams have a long line of demon spawns running the business
The Dome isn't nearly as bad a stadium as some say, but it was clearly built on the cheap and rushed so that St Louis could get a team back ASAP. If they took their time and built a stadium with a little more personality, like Busch Stadium, it would have lasted longer. I went to a few BattleHawks games this past year, and the Dome was a perfectly average venue, not bad, not great.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Never again, NFL. Stay the hell out of St. Louis. (And Missouri too, for that matter - hopefully the Chiefs move across the border to Kansas.)
Fool me thrice, then what?
I hope the rams will go 0-17 next year
They 0and 2 rn
Me too
I thought this was a Urinating Tree video at first from the thumbnail, but I was pleasantly suprised by how well constructed this video was
It's criminal of how many subs you have, only being 600, hoping you find more success in the future!
Thanks.
And uh something something THA STILLERS ARE GOING TO THE SUPAH BAWL
@@PenguinNote67 the stillers always go to the super bowl, they just gotta Buy tickets to it
@@PenguinNote67PITTSBURGH'S GAHNTA DA SU-Oh wait, the Super Bowl is already over. Dang it :(
@@SortaNonymousMaybe next year
@@PenguinNote67awesome to see a fellow urinatingtree fan
As a fellow St.louisin, it is a shame that the Rams left. But i was never really a fan of them. Became a fan of the AZ Cardinals during the Kurt Warner run to the super bowl era as well because of my dad owning a bunch of old cardinals stuff from the 70s. Great video by the way. Popped up in my recommendation and thought it looked interesting.
The Patriots were in negotiation too when Kraft took over
Thank you for saying REDSKINS. It's what the team was known as prior to 2020.
Real nfl fans will always call them that
@@thesuperostrich So do I. I HATE the Commanders name!
That's not to say I'm a fan of "Redskins", but it's just what I've always known them as (and will continue to know them as)
I loved that the Cardinals were both the football and baseball team of St. Louis when i was growing up.
Anyone else think its quite a strange coincidence that once the Rams moved, the Chiefs became a dynasty, and the Rams made it back to the Superbowl?
Chiefs wanted the rams to move. They’re were only a few teams that voted against the rams moving
I think it was the eagles, packers, cardinals, and chargers
No
St. Louis should have gotten an expansion team over Jacksonville
Glad this video came my way great stuff and yeah crazy that between the cardinals and rams there was only like 8 successful seasons in St Louis. Also weird that I wish the rams never switched uniforms but also thought the navy gold and white was a better look. I also always move Washington to STL in madden
As a Rams fan from the time I was young (1960's, 1970's), I am biased about the lighter, royal blue like uniforms from my childhood. Believe me, I understand the hurt of the Rams moving. 1994 and 1995 were not a good time for me. By the time the Rams came home, I was a Patriots and Packers fan and didn't care a lot about it.
That really is about it. The Rams were the best and worst of times for NFL football in St. Louis. I would say 4 very good seasons from the Rams, 3 years of Don Coryell Big Red teams in the 1970s, and 2 or 3 teams in the 1960s the best. The Big Red mainly mediocre.and there was not a playoff for most of the 1960s unless there was a tie for first place so never a playoff win. The 1964 playoff win he mentions of the Cardinals over Green Bay was actually only a short lived playoff games of runner-ups Green Bay in the West and St. Louis in the East with no advavcement. I followed it all and as seen by the Battle Hawks attendance wish St. Louis would get an expansion team but like he says owners committed to the region for private invesment like just happened for the new soccer stadium and team is key. It did make sense Stan Kroenke would want the much larger TV market of L.A.. . It is obvious seeing what has been happening for the Dodgers.
if Shad Khan bought the team, i bet you he would have kept them in St. Louis.
Shahid
Not a Rams fan, but I maintain that moving away from their 2000's era uniforms was a huge mistake. Those unis was lit, their current one's suck ass.
Agree. Their current unis suck. The combo of gold and blue was nice and different
as a Rams fan, I agree. We had an amazing logo and uniforms, then they ruined it because they wanted that modern LA look.
The logo was one of the best in all of sports, along with the colors. Good thing Stan got rid of it to fit into his corporate LA look
always an oldhead complaining about the new
@@therhinoization5 its just a fact that the new shades of yellow and blue are ugly af.
Just started watching, so happy it popped up in my recommended because this sounds interesting asf. This topic is never brought up enough.
Wait this isnt Tree............yet still just as entertaining. Get the enthusiasm up a bit and you really got something here man
St. Louis has been treated horribly by the NFL. I could use stronger words but I would get banned.
St. Louis, not Jacksonville, should have gotten the NFL expansion team in 1995. I still say the Jacksonville Jaguars should relocate to St. Louis and still remain in the AFC South with nearby cities Nashville and Indianapolis. Even the dome is still better than Jacksonville’s stadium. The Gator Bowl is a dump!
If you ever get a chance to hear Howard Balzer talk on the subject, who does he say was largely responsible for the Jaguars winding up in Jacksonville? Señor Stan himself, as he refused to work with the group pursuing the expansion team. But also to the point of the video: St. Louis needs an expansion team of their own. No more relocations.
Read this closely. That’s not happening. It won’t ever happen. Also, there is no “Gator Bowl”, there’s Everbank Field, and it’s getting a two billion dollar renovation, so it will look much like, ironically, SoFi. The Jags and the city are working together to ensure the Jaguars remain in Jacksonville for a long time.
I agree, St. Louis is a much better football town. Jacksonville is a dump.
“Better” football towns don’t lose two NFL teams. Jax continuously outdrew the Rams when they were in St Louis. Get the fantasy of the Jaguars moving out of your head. It’ll never happen.
The attendance only fell after the Rams sucked for a long time, 2007-15. If the Rams were still in St. Louis with the current coaching regime and winning seasons and superbowl trophy attendance would be back to greatest show on turf era.
This is a great video! What sucks is my family and I always talk about how we miss the Stl rams. I actually threw away all my Rams stuff when they moved.
Yep me and my dad had season tickets from there first year till they left,I turned most of my gear into work clothes.
Even though they had losing seasons I still stuck with them and watch religiously. Oh well, maybe in an alternate dimension they stayed in STL. @@cardsfan1590
I don't blame you.......st louis gear is worthless
The NFL, for some reason, hates our city. They did not want the Rams to be here in the first place. Even when the Dome was new it was made clear there would be no Suler Bowls played in STL (too far North...unlike Detroit I guess). We followed the NFL own rules to keep the team with an actionable stadium ready to be built and the Rams moved before San Diego or Oakland! I no longer watch the NFL. Why watch a league that publicly badmouthed where I live and had two teams move away? Give me college football. The teams may conference realign, but the teams don't leave their fans.
As a Los Angeles Rams fan I get your anger. I know it’s hard not only watching them win a Super Bowl at their home stadium, but be rewarded with large concerts and major international sporting events. I do like SoFi though. If I do ever visit St. Louis and wear Rams gear will there be issues? (it has the LA horn logo).
Los Angeles likes the Raiders even with the Chargers and Rams being in the city. They would still rather go to Las Vegas and watch the Raiders.
@@boogitybear2283 yeah my neighbor is an Allegiant Stadium season ticket holder so I know when he’s gone. Plus I guess this can be attributed to the Raiders staying in California until 2020 and Al Davis wanting a unified brand rather than being in one location.
@@boogitybear2283 Had the owners actually listened to their LA committee, the Rams don't leave St. Louis and that Vegas stadium (which just finished hosting a Super Bowl) would have instead been built in Carson, hosting the Raiders and Chargers.
They would probably be as upset as if I wore my Los Angeles Dodgers white home jersey in San Francisco. You might have to hire a bodyguard.
I’d think you’d be fine brother. When the rams were in the Super Bowl a few years ago I saw people out wearing their rams gear. I didn’t say anything but thought it was dumb
Love the Blues song in the beginning and ending! My fave hockey team!!!! I even play as them on NHL 95 on SNES! LOL
"Chicago Cardinals." Ugh. That just sounds so wrong to even say, even if it is a football team.
As someone who grew up near Oakland I’m sorry no city deserves to have their team leave twice
LLLLEEEEEETSSS GOOOOOO SSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTLLLLLLL
All our team suck😢 (BattleHawks aside) even our collage teams
St. Louis deserves a expansion team .
They deserve to be where they are, hosting minor league football.
I think the biggest betrayal was from the cardinals, Rams were in LA since 1946 so they belonged in LA but Georgia Frontiere was from St Louis and wanted them there, which her husband rosenbloom would NOT have done, that is why LA does not name the name of Georgia Frontiere.
Who really should hate is the Cardinals they were the original STL football team
The Original NFL team was the St. Louis All-Stars, followed by by the Gunners
And do people remember the 2014 Rams players protest that when football in St Louis were over
Spot on. I’ve lived in Saint Louis my entire life and cards and blues are beloved because they are basically part of the city. Even the new soccer team is selling out. The rams seemed soulless by the end and they never became a part of the city. No relocation is ever going to work in St. Louis.
Don't want the NFL back.
St. Louis will get another team, don't know if the Battle Hawks made the 8 team cut for UFL but if they did just show up and pack the place, that'll get the NFL wanting some of that money
Your 2024 UFL teams:
XFL Conference: St. Louis BattleHawks, Arlington Renegades, DC Defenders, San Antonio Brahmas
USFL Conference: Birmingham Stallions, Memphis Showboats, Michigan Panthers, Houston Roughnecks (the two Houston teams merged, keeping the USFL roster and the XFL name)
UFL/NFL Merger could happen
@@coreylevine8095 anything can happen, if there's money in spring football the NFL will either merge it, acquire it then change it to some weird branding, or start their own and run UFL out of business. I'm more on the lines of acquire then maybe sign all the practice squad guys and guys trying to make the league but went undrafted
We are bigger than more than half the cities in the NFL and can never get a team…it’s bullshit…
-San Antonio
You can thank Jerry Jones for that. Once he's gone San Antonio might have a chance at a team
I was a foreigner growing up loving the greatest show on turf of the St. Louis Rams. It was my dream to go see the game for real one day. I'd finally made it in 2015. Unfortunately, It was the last year that the team I had known and loved was the team I grew up with.
Deep down, I still wished that Kroenke didn't exercise his right and sold his share to Shad Khan. He's a greedy business mogul who only cares about money and hometown royalty doesn't matter to him at all.
Jacksonville should have moved to St Louis, nobody wants Jacksonville in FL, they have the Bucs and Dolphins, much more popular. Plus the owner is from St Louis, and they would play Nashville, Indianapolis and Houston, those are good regional division opponents geographically
He's not from STL
Racine is a street in Chicago. The Maroon or Cardinal Red uniforms were hand me downs from University of Chicago.
The Cardinals i understand this was founded by a Racist street gangs in Chicago Reagan Colt
People should have had their PSL refunded when the Rams left
Actually, the first St. Louis NFL team was when the Cincinnati Reds season got suspended. The St. Louis Gunners were brought up to NFL status after that for just one season in 1934 and then just moved to another league.
The St. Louis All Stars of 1923 are the first NFL team from St Louis, finishing 1-4-2 and eventually folding due to financial losses.
yeah, you talk about the betrayal of St Louis, how the betrayal of CLEVELAND!!?! the greatest football team in the world in the 50's. winning CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER CHAMPIONSHIP!!! then joining the NFL AND DOING THE SAME! coached by genius Paul Brown. did you know Brown invented the 'passing pocket'!!?! before this, linemen would stand at the line of scrimmage and BEAT EACH OTHERS BRAINS OUT, while receivers scrambled to get open for a pass! instead, in the huddle Cleveland linemen would say, "No one touches Otto Graham today!" Cleveland had a rivalry with Pittsburgh!! and then with Cincinnati (also coached by coach Brown)!!! then the 'stinky', 'stinky', 'stinky' owner of the CHAMPSHIP CALIBER Cleveland Browns moved them to Baltimore, where they won their first Superbowl, and Cleveland HAD NOTHING!!! years later, Cleveland got an 'expansion team' full of rookies and cast offs (AND NO COACH BROWN)!!!! and while Baltimore has been to Super Bowls, CLEVELAND HAS NOT!!!
I certainly want to do a video on Art Modell
The St Louis Rams looks way cooler than the Los Angeles rams. Both their logo, and outfits how far greater style.
It's too bad for the Los Angeles rams, that they did not bring their sense of style along with them. During their move.
The Rams were in LA since the '50's and the Owner Carrol Rosenbloom died mysteriously, in 5ft of water; his side piece a Las Vegas Showgirl (Georgia Frontiere) took control of the Team and moved them to her Hometown of St Louis after running the Franchise into the ground in Anaheim. Allegedly, she received over $200M under the table.
A wife cant be a "side piece". You sound mad. Go get some help.
Rams moved to L.A. in 1946
@@ChillydontCap She actually WAS his sidepiece after he divorced his wife, who he was cheating on for YEARS with Georgia!
BTW, the only reason she even inherited the Rams after Carroll's "accident" was because of a widows tax break law in California. Then she fired her son-in-law Steve (who SHOULD HAVE inherited the team, since he was already kind of running the team at the time) because he didn't get along with then-Rams general manager Don Klosterman (who himself would be fired a few years later after being thrown under the bus by Georgia during a breach of contract lawsuit by Fred Bryer in 1981).
THat Ricky Proehl catch was the most awesome thing that I had seen up to that point!! I was born in STL and I felt proud to be from there for the first time in a long time! LMAO
Proehl was a fine little receiver when he played for Arizona,too. He just,kinda,flew under everybody’s radar.
St. Louis should never give another dollar to the NFL.
I remember what St. Louis couldn't get its act together during the last NFL expansion. The NFL was so desperate to have a team in St. Louis that they gave the city an extra month to shore up its bid package. St. Louis failed to do so, so the NFL reluctantly gave the franchise to Jacksonville. All the while, Baltimore had by far the best expansion package and greatly exceeded every NFL challenge. Kinda funny how things turned out, isn't it?
As I mentioned previously, Enos Stanley Kroenke played a very big role in Jacksonville getting the expansion team. Baltimore would eventually get an "expansion" team as the result of a stunt similar to Stan's pulled by a guy named Art Modell.
>had the cardinals for way longer
>cardinals not successful
>cardinals leave
>cardinals continue to suck
*no anger towards them*
>get the rams
>rams win SB
>rams leave
>rams win another SB
*seething with hate for the rams*
yes.
Bill Bidwell was very well hated. Don’t worry about that.
Bottomline, the Rams left st louis because they(the Rams) were given the option to move when st louis refused to renovate that domed stadium and bring it up to par with the top 25% of the stadiums in the NFL as per the lease agreement! Honor the the terms of the lease and the Rams "would not" have been given the option to leave... That's what you people in st louis fail to acknowledge. Now deal with the consequences...
You didn’t mention the first major league team (AFL/NFL). From 1931-1940, the Saint Louis Gunners played in Saint Louis. They were in both the NFL and AFL during their years in Saint Louis. When they were purchased in 1940, they were moved and merged with the Cleveland Rams, with the former Gunners players now playing as a part of the Rams. When Georgia brought the Rams Saint Louis, it was not only a homecoming for her, but also a sort of homecoming for the Rams as well.
Ah, the St. Louis Rams. The '99-'03 Rams were very fun to watch. Much like the Sacramento Kings of the NBA in same era that were way ahead of their time. Very fun to watch.
Injuries derailed potential dynasties. Rams were likeable versions of todays Chiefs, like the Kings were likeable version of todays Warriors.
Just like the Chiefs from 1966-71 they fell into mediocrity after those years
I’m sure every local could not pick pronunciation but we say it like de-kate-ur and they were actually the Stayles Bears.🐻
I'm from st Louis and I wish we had a nfl team
They're still the REDSKINS !!
Not sure if I want to see another NFL team in St. Louis. I don't trust the league at all and don't want to get emotionally invested in a team that they will just take away and give to another city in a few years.
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That's why the city shouldn't push for a team unless it's guaranteed to stay in the city for at least a century, or better yet permanently. And no Top 25% BS stadium clause either, that's a big reason why the Rams were doomed to leave
Great video, very informative and well researched. I learned something new about both NFL teams that called St. Louis home for a time.
The Rams left LA shortly after the Rodney King stuff, then they left STL shortly after the Michael Brown shit in STL, coincidence??
Pretty much
The Rams weren't a long time OG St Louis team to begin with. They were from Cleveland in the 1920s before they moved to LA in the 50s and were there for 40 years. The Cardinals, though I can understand. Never made sense to me why they decided to leave in the first place
Because Bidwell was a bastard.
Destroyed Ozark Airlines as well.
Rams started in Cleveland in the 30's, left for L.A. in the 40's
Probably so that the lads running the show are still cross about the namesake of the city and how it is he got that fancy title. Salty enough to push for a name change in recent times. Old grudges never die. Even brought it up when Notre Dame burned down as if most anyone remembers (except that lot).
East answer: just give LA the same treatment and have the chargers move to St Louis
that would make a good AFC rivalry into a great one! KC v STL
revive the cross-state hate!!
That would have been the most logical outcome (sorry San Diego, but you never got a concrete stadium plan in place like St Louis did). Naturally the NFL chose the worst option, and now the Chargers play second fiddle in LA and are a complete afterthought. Even at Rams games the away fans sometimes outnumber the home fans, so LA is clearly not interested enough in the NFL to warrant getting two teams.
StL in the house. I like having fingernails more than football 🤣
Kinda irrelevant, but the Chicago Cardinals moving to St. Louis is why my grandfather and others become Packers fans. The Cardinals were the Southside team and they'd be damned if they became Bears fans (North). That's a big reason why Chicago has a decent Packers contingent. That, and their franchise hasn't been run by senile inbreds the last 40 years, but we digress...
And they still show up and show out for sports in the dome over the other teams that left and can't sell out their "beloved home team" and they still don't sell out games in LA......Shameful
Fans will support an NFL Team Born and Breaded in St. Louis
Does the worst dumpster fire of a city deserve an NFL team? Sure, Chicago is a bigger dumpster fire, but it's BIGGER. Per person, STL is worse.
Note: I do live in STL.
WASHINGTON REDSKINS REDSKINS REDSKINS REDSKINS REDSKINS YEAH YOU CAN SAY IT.
*For historical examples
Bring back our Sonics!
As a Blazer fan I 100% agree. Miss our Rivalry
Wait for a few years, they will be back pretty soon.
@@georgiosioannispappasThey're in no real hurry to come back to Seattle it's been 16 years already
I grew up with the Rams, and still kinda miss them. I switched to the Chiefs because of the Missouri connection and lack of any meaningful rivalry between the two; it was fun at first, but lately I find myself getting less excited for football season. I don't dislike the Chiefs, it just doesn't hit the same.
And yes, I love the Battlehawks (and Missouri Tigers). I just miss NFL football in my backyard. I love football, and want it represented in my hometown at every level.
I actually feel bad for the Rams, leaving St. Louis the Rams should’ve never have left Los Angeles in the first place
I loved the Dirty Birds, hated Bidwell. Loved my Rams, loved Georgia Frontier. Loved the Rams, hated Kroenke. Couldn't care less for the NFL as a whole now.
Why do you hate the rams they gave you a super bowl
I think it was a huge mistake to not change the name of the Cardinals when they moved to St Louis. Keeping the Cardinals name meant they were always overshadowed by the much more successful baseball team.
Looking back I also really wish either Shad Khan bought the team, or the city wouldn't have dragged its feet and actually upgraded the Dome. That top 25% lease was a HORRIBLE deal from the get go and should have never been signed. St Louis was getting impatient for a team but they should have just waited for an expansion team.
Shahid couldn't just buy them
@@chrischar9428 yeah there was an ownership clause that Kroenke could automatically match any bid for the team so Shad was screwed.
I don’t get how the authority at the dome now says it’s going to need 250M in upgrades for a facility that currently isn’t good enough to host ncaa tournament games, an NFL team, etc. two failed nfl franchises is enough. The NFL is a failed experiment now in saint Louis
My parent weren’t big on football while I was growing up but even they loved Kurt Warner. So much so that in later years when Warner took the AZ Cardinals to the Super Bowl, we all were routing for them.
I don't if it is mentioned but st louis had 4 nfl teams St. Louis has been the home of four National Football League (NFL) franchises. Three years after the NFL was founded in 1920, it accepted the St. Louis All-Stars as a franchise for the 1923 NFL season. Then 14-7.
The second franchise was the St. Louis Gunners. The Gunners were an independent professional football team that played the last three games of the 1934 National Football League season, replacing the Cincinnati Reds on the league schedule after the Reds' league membership was suspended.
Man I was born and raised in Maryland, but i was always a Rams fan. Steven Jackson and Sam Bradford were my heroes and i was beyond devastated when they moved to LA. Thank you for this, indirectly allowed me to relive a bit of my childhood. Hopefully STL gets football back soon, i may be a jags fan now but when STL gets a team, you bet ill cheer for them to high hell. Oh, and fuck Stan Kroenke
Once the 3rd largest city in the U.S. and hosting the Olympics and World's Fair in the same year (1904) St. Louis is not even in the top 50 anymore (!!!). The slow but steady and never-ending loss of jobs and population has left the city with a far brighter past than future. I spent over two decades there, and will always love it, but facts are facts.
Your WR corps did the silly little hands up thing, which turned out to be a pure media lie. That turned a lot of people off, both in St. Louis and otherwise. It's a shame as some of Cozy's favorite players were St. Louis Rams.
You get what you deserve.
I was born in 1970, so I grew up a Cardinals football fan. I tried staying with them when they moved to Arizona but it just wasn’t the same. I never called the Rams a St Louis team, they were a LA team to me. I don’t really have a NFL team anymore because St Louis doesn’t have one. I do follow the Battlehawks.