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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ม.ค. 2018
- An experiment to find out the difference a paddle tire makes on a motorcycle in the dunes. Same bike and rider, the only difference is the tire. I realize the knobby wasn't new. This video was made with a $0 budget and that is what I had. 2002 KTM 520 EXC motorcycle at Sand Mountain, Nevada.
Credit to Andrew Price for help filming riding scenes.
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The results are not a surprise. Think about the purpose of the tires. A knobbie is designed to dig, which is exactly what it did. It dug a hole and the rear of the bike sank. A paddle tire lifts the back of the bike when it comes in contact with the sand, as well as pushing the bike forward. If you watch your rear wheel closely in the video, you can see it happening as soon as you take off . How about doing a comparison between a knobbie front tire, a three rib front tire and a trials (universal) type front tire on the sand. I ride a DR650 in Michigan sand and I have learned some interesting things about how tires effect off road motorcycles.
Monster Hill! That thing is the kraken. I’ve never seen such big dunes
Sick video!
We go to Sand Mountain too I like your video by the way
Smart way for difference
How i get this tire in 17 size
hopefully someone is still answering questions, I have a CR125 that I ride on both dirt hard surface and Dune sands on the same day in the same location, this place is called Juniper Dunes in Washington state. the dirt tires work out there but can cause a lot of frustration when its been really hot and the sand is nice and soft, the dune hills are not huge by any means but there can be some areas where the length of the run before you hit a hill can be short so you need that traction, I am looking for the best tire for 70% sand and 30% dirt to ride on when there and I will have another just dirt tire for everywhere else. this Dunlop Geomax MX11 Sand/Mud Motorcycle Tire looks like it might fit the program I need being the tread is not going to beat me up like a cup tire would on the harder surface. any other suggestions?
Leland Hill that tire almost looks like a paddle. It is probably a good choice for what you are doing. I have never tried it myself though.
Ay nice I go to juniper dunes also
Thanks!
Good thing about sand. It's easy on the bones crashing
sand mountain is so badass
Its big difference
This might be a stupid question but still
Paddles > Knobby tires > regular dualsport street tires
Right??
YES, exactly right, for SAND riding of course!
@@7arkhwf then for dirt it’s knobby up top n nothing else or??? Do paddles even work outside the sand?
So where exactly is sand mountain
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Near Sand Mountain Recreation Area, Fallon, NV 89406, USA
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most of the time where he is filming from is the backside of the mountain and you can see all the tracks of all the other vehicles in fact the way he is riding right now is illegal you should never ride without a flag and Paul the park officer will give you a ticket but Paul is a good guy GO PAUL GET HIS ASS
@@raley-8469 This was on the front side of the mountain and my friend and I were the only people at Sand Mountain that day. We had flags in the truck in case anyone else showed up. You can go ahead and report me to the department of victimless crimes, cold case files.
alexkram ok thank you so much
@@alexkram love this "department of victimless crimes".....I foresee me quoting you in the future! LOL
Power band?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_band
It’s hilarious when people talk about “power band” as if it’s some extra turbo thing that a bike has.
How is there no one there!?!?
Weekday. Actually there is a fee to go there, except on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. This was a Wednesday so it was free and empty.
Brand new sand tire vs 70% tread life knobby. Should be comparing new vs new, plus that tread pattern isnt a deep pattern in the first place. There are better tires out there for this test, shinko is definite loss tho.
I disagree. If you are going to the dunes you can take the time and expense to install a sand paddle tire or you can just use the tire that is already on your bike. This test shows the difference there will be in performance at the dunes. Why would you install a brand new knobby right before going to the dunes? If you are going to the trouble of mounting a new tire anyway, just put on a paddle. Also, see the description above where I mention the video was made with a $0 budget. If you send me a new knobby tire I will happily test it for you.
Riding a knobby in the dunes adds a challenge and a well experienced rider can do without much problem. I think your video is misleading because the rider lacks the skills, I can see it from watching the vid.
I'm sure if you were there you could have provided excellent coaching for me
Also “somewhat worn” is not the right definition of that knobby. More like freaking bald!
@@jackedpotato225 haha, accepting donations!
not enough rpms , my KTM EXC 380 would walk up that hill with knobies
I'm sure if you were there you could have provided excellent coaching for me
@@alexkram didn't say you couldn't ride u just need a different bike.
@@alexkram Bikes now ride across water don't they ? you down shifted halfway up the dune does that happen on water? with sand you're floating, it's about wheel speed which you don't have, don't be but hurt.
@@alexkram nice burn! That was a super Betty White "Go duck yourself" reply. Lol
@@alexkram you know that he'd get lost somewhere between his keyboard and dune.
NO your bike was NOT on the "power band!!!", that bike is not a 2 stroke!!! and i understand why you think it has a powerband... you obviously DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS!
this bike doesnt have one nor does any 4 stroke motor... 4 strokes are low rpm torque motors... a 2 stroke has a power surge(nicknamed "power band") that only happens in a 2 stroke motor do to the exhaust RESONANT FREQUENCY, and intake and exhaust timing that produces a high revving response that causes the motor to to increase rpm very quickly... NOW DOES A $STROKE MOTOR DO THAT???? NO!!!
lol
Every engine has a powerband. 2 strokes just have a much more pronounced power band
@@chrsmcwtrs my 4stroke revs higher then my 2 stroke did..
@@chrsmcwtrs you sre stopid
Power band hahha
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_band