Peterson Brilliantly Ties Elon Musk's Logic To Jesus
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- A lot of people are commenting on the Jordan Peterson/Elon Musk interview, but no one that I've seen has commented on the way that Jordan Peterson showed Elon Musk's philosophy is deeply supported by one of Jesus' most famous sermons.
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I used to have daily panic attacks for years. Full blown panic attacks sweating in office at work. Jesus helped with my anxiety more than any anti depressant or psychotherapy. Just a fact. My psychologist couldn’t believe how much better I did once I began following Jesus and tried to grow in holiness.
Love to see this!
Excellent analysis of this interview with Musk and Peterson - I have waited YEARS for this to happen!
Jordan Peterson has the most interesting takes on the Bible of anyone these days. Turns out they are just a fresh rephrasing of what Christians have always believed at least implicitly. Needs to take his own advice though with respect to God though, lol 🙏
I think he lives out what he teaches. The guy that toured with him this year went in Joe Rogan, and really emphasized how blown away he was by Peterson, “I have never seen anyone live out what they teach like Jordan.”
Hi, I am a mom now. I used to consume long form content before and read quite a bit. THANK YOU for clipping the most relevant bits of JP and EM conversation because it was super enriching and I will think about this all day today. Please do more of these ❤!
What does being a mom have to do with anything in the video?
@@zombizombi She doesn't have enough time, focus and energy to consume long form content anymore because being a mom is a full time job so she appreciates short impactful clips
@@zombizombi that I have hardly any free time lol and need the best segments cut from long-form content
I always thought of the sermon on the Mount as Jesus trying to get the people listening and Bible readers to realize just how much they need a Savior. The standard of good we set pales in light of the goodness of God in which we all fall short
You are right, but it is also what Peterson is saying too. The Pharisees thought they had reached the pinnacle of goodness. Jesus sheds light that there is much more work to do. For those who listened this gave them a higher goal to work toward.
Peterson correctly identifies the underlying spirit of the sermon. AIM at what is highest. Treat others as if they are made in the image of God. And focus on the moment.
@@LoganS91 yes maybe. I think I hesitate to agree with him because it sounds like he thinks salvation is an aspirational goal instead of a gift. You even say "a higher goal to work toward" but I feel like the more important take away is that no matter how hard we work we can't save ourselves. We can't even be "good" people without the grace of Jesus
@@ryanrobertsii You shouldn’t worry. Unsaved people cannot hear the truth, because they do not have the spirit of truth. Those who understand the words of Peterson already have Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. And if a person understands and hears Peterson, they will also believe in Jesus. But Petersons words do soften hard intellects toward accepting truth.
I’ve never seen anyone who have whole heartedly accepted Petersons words but not believed in Jesus. But I see that people who are touched by his words do come to Christ. And that is telling.
“No one is good but One, that is, God.” (Mark 10:18)
“Who then can be saved?” But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” (Mark 10:26-27)
May they both come to be professing Christians.
Jesus lives! ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
Amen
Jordan Peterson is a Christian. Just FYI.
To answer your closing question; I think I can admit that every time I’ve turned away from God, I’ve turned inward into bodily pleasures.
Then on the other hand, recently I’ve noticed practising virtue helps me quell the need for that pleasure. Although I realize I need to be in a state of grace to fully receive certain virtues.
Thanks for your perspective Cam, I haven’t checked out this conversation yet, but this makes me want to now!
You may need external aspirations to work toward. I turn to pleasures of the body when I have nothing else to do. But I think being busy working and practicing and educating yourself are Godly. An idle mind is the devils workshop.. or something like that
The Bible Project is going through the Sermon on the Mount this year. Those that want to go deeper should check out their podcast.
Love that group
I love them
They are the best
Sometimes I double watch Tim for church courage
Love Bible project!
The Bible Project does such good work. I heard the other day they were making it easier or finding resources for deaf Jamaican Christians that my church supports.
Father Mike went through it years ago in his bible in a year videos.
Our meaning is to love, know and serve God and to and share eternal joy with Him in Heaven.
there is no god.
@@matswessling6600you must be fun at parties.
@@gregorydanielewicz9486 you have no idea!!! I am also tired of people spreading lies.
@@matswessling6600 so you are tired of yourself then because God does exist. Just open yo eyes
@@gregorydanielewicz9486 I'm not tired of myself. Learn how to read.
This was an excellent breakdown. I have no desire to watch a full-length interview with Elon, so I really appreciate you highlighting this part of the conversation.
Amazing content. Absolutely historic events being unfolded before our eyes. You couldn't be there when C. S. Lewis opened his eyes, but you can be there when Jordan Peterson opened his, or rather had them opened. Pray for Elon Musk, for God is calling together Jews and Christians in this hour. May the twelve tribes receive their own. Thank you to a wise and ecumenical brother Cameron who continues to lead the way toward unity in the most important matters of the holy Christian faith.
What I found most interesting about this video was not what was said but what was silently speaking the entire time the camera was on Jordan Peterson. And that is, his jacket. It was full of illustrations of Saints and the Blessed Virgin. I wonder if Elon Musk noticed. It’s spoke for itself.
@MoonTyphoon-j4u who is without sin, cast the first stone. If you can get off your high horse..that is.
I read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy when I was about 13, and I assume a lot of kids did too. What a smart guy that writer was to capture the imaginations of so many kids and share some deep and funny thoughts with us.
I think You're noble aims are worth commending. Also, I appreciate the emphasis on having a clarity in 1's connection with God.
Peterson's seriously gonna need the intercession of the Saints after wearing THAT suit...
He walked into an eastern rite or orthodox church and said he wanted to wear that on a jacket 🤷🏻♀️
Beautiful Eastern Orthodox icons….
It was made for him as a gift
@@VainFriggus nice!
Exodus 20:4
Recognizing our impotence and surrendering to Jesus’ Grace is how He can work all those “But I say to you…” through us.
happy to have found this, the larger interview was 'disappeared' from youtube where I live.
I learned something. Don't be absorbed with making the future better. Concentrate on making this moment better.
This makes sense. If you, every moment, do the right thing, the future is fixed.
The transhumanist, ai future doesn't seem to be going in a direction where all human life has equal value and is made in the image of God.
I dont think he understood any of it really.
@@MoonTyphoon-j4u Sound hip? No, he communicates simply and clearly. The way Jordan speaks it sounds like he should sort that mess out in a journal before putting it onto someone else. Clarity and simplicity is a wonderful thing.
Cameron, don’t give up hope on your channel. Good things will happen ! God bless you 💙
God Bless Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk
“No wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light,” Paul writes. “It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness” (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
@@theredboneking That applies to trump, Satan's child
Pray for their souls ❤
@@theredboneking That verse applies to DT
Best breakdown! God bless you, Cameron
Incredible breakdown. Thanks a lot ❤
I completely agree. The worst thing that can happen to us is to lose virtue. This has been the collapse of societies and sadly we are seeing it in ours now
Love the video. I do find myself more at peace and loving when I strive to be virtuous. And fall to self pleasures when I brush it aside. I haven’t read the sermon on the mount yet and this just made me more excited to read and learn deeply about it. God Bless You all. 🙏
thank you for your video! Loved it! We need more christian material, we have to bring back God
13:55 No, *_not at all!_* Instead, Jesus is showing the need to repent from trusting in our self-righteousness (which is as filthy rags to God) towards belief in Jesus *_alone,_* for our salvation.
He lifted up the pristine law to stop every proud mouth, and that all the world may be guilty before God (Romans 3:19-20). The law is not against the promises of God, but it could not make us righteous and give us life, but the law is a schoolmaster to bring us (to the end of ourselves, and) unto Christ (Galatians 3:21-24).
Once someone has put his faith in Jesus alone for salvation, he is sealed with the Holy Spirit and is a child of God. And believers have *_not_* received the spirit of bondage again *_to fear;_* but they have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father (Romans 8:14-15).
This is the true answer against all anxiety.
When you’re consumed by anxiety, the only one to cling to is Christ. Our best acts are filthy rags. (Isaiah 64:6)
Thank you very much for explaining this subject.
"I would that petitions, prayers, and thanksgiving be made for all people, especially those in power so that we might live lives of holiness and peace."
Jesus loves all, he wants the best for all of us.
Especially the little children if the clergy are anything to go by.
Both of those gentlemen are beyond what an individual registers on a daily basis, they both seem to be sharing a multitude of ways to creatively care about Gods creations. They both have never ending stories that I look forward to listening to.. for the rest of my life.
I personally can’t stand when Jordan says things like “God is the call to adventure”… it’s all psychological and pragmatic for Jordan. God is not personal, God is just a metaphysical aim.
I have a “personal” relationship with God. I know he’s always watching and listening to my thoughts. God will not be mocked.
It hasn't been for a while, that probably was the case when he originally got famous up to the time he had the whole hospitalization turned to weird diet arc.
For a while I thought he had secretly converted to EO, now I just think he does the "mere Christianity" route or maybe he's crypto Catholic. His own political views or his celebrity status as liberal figure probably will prevent him from disclosing just how much he has really adopted from Christian orthodoxy.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj One of his best friends (if not his best friend) is Jonathan Pageau, who is an Eastern Orthodox Christian. Jordan takes an incredible amount of theological cues from Jonathan, which is why he goes so hard on symbolism. So, your thought about EO was pretty accurate, though I don’t think Jordan actually is EO, he is just closer to that theology in general.
I know its annoying when you experience God daily.
But he said he cant rule out other aspects but says I know its psychologically true, the bible.
This is also in other hand exalting the bible as it should have truth in different aspects levels and he bares witness from that side,
They are both one in the same. God is all in all
This is deep and truly is life changing
Thank you so much❤✝️ GREAT CONTENT
Beautiful. Thanks. More of that.
This is awesome thanks for sharing! 🔥
I wonder what my 18 year old self would have made of this in 1979 when I determined that drugs, sex, and rock and roll were better to focus on than religion.
It would have been most interesting to see how Elon responded to Jordan’s last assertion.
In fact the moment when the Christians started saying forgive your spouse for cheating they ruined marriage 💔 It is no longer safe to get married if it is ok to give your body to other people That is the reason for marriage
God’s law just shows us how much we need Jesus. Nobody but Him can keep the law perfectly.
And yet gay marriage is legal in so many places in the world. Doesn't look like God is doing such a great job eh?
@@zombizombi or people have freewill and are sinful... just a thought.
We must keep explaining the gospel, and whatever terms we can to Elon. Jordan’s pretty good at it because he knows much more than anyone. They’re both brilliant, but Jordan takes the cake. Keep it up Jordan.
The question about meaning of life is a great conversation starter if you don't want to attack atheist with the problem of existence of god. There is even psychological theory focused on finding a meaning: logotherapy.
Great video 🙏🏽
We can only achieve obeying the sermon on the mount by trusting the Lord Jesus and yielding to the Holy Spirit.
If we do not know adultery is wrong then there is no reason to get married Seriously, if being faithful is not taken seriously getting married is actually illegally attaching yourself to a really bad situation Jesus is simply telling us what will make us the happiest
How about quantum mechanics, quantum mysticism, or like theoretical physics and correlative contrast and conjunction with biblical and extra biblical truth or Christianity? (-;
It looks to me like they are sitting on the magic carpet. A flying carpet. Do you see?
Peterson can tie all he wants but until the spirit pours on Elon and he's born again the work is not done
I respect Peterson: X permanently banned me from twitter for asking why it had so many porn bots in my and my colleagues feed and claimed I made a death threat to an athiest on a unrelated joke.
Musk is no where near God
But lets pray God changes his heart
Good stuff
Jordan is too tangled in his own ideas that he misses the spirit of the gospels. Too Heady, no faith and a big ego. I hope he gets it someday.
Gets what? I don't like the man, but at least he attempts to think. The religious are just a bunch of sheep.
Completely agree with you. The funny thing is that he’s a psychologist yet he is buried beneath layers of his own ego.
Jesus will not escape not on a starship or nothing
Jesus is calling Elon🕊️
I was reading instructions on how to download Minecraft texture packs at that age. That’s about it.
I think your definition of “entropy minimization” is serviceable. “Trying to bring order”, or “reduce chaos”. That’s okay, but I think there is an even more helpful and accurate way to talk about it.
Entropy, in a more scientifically accurate sense is “the measure of the amount of usable energy available in a system.”
This value in our universe is always decreasing on a universal metric, as far as our observations have found. This is why we understand “entropy” to be an “increase of chaos”, because “usable energy” is always in some form of molecular order, until it is used up. Think of wood burning, for example. The order of the wood and the oxygen etc. is used up by the heat of the flame.
So, with this in mind, “entropy minimization” could be understood as “the maximization, and optimization of all available usable energy”.
It isn’t just “reduction of chaos”, but it is “optimization of order”.
I guess this only helps if you are into getting really picky and precise with the semantics, and that’s sort of something I love doing haha
Stellar explanation! Actually this is how I also interpreted it!
I would tread very carefully here.
When we live just for pleasure it does not lead to pleasure and when we die there is no power so living the way the bible says is much better
42 is one zero away from being “The Most High.”
Where can I watch this full video?
It's now on TH-cam just search 'Jordan Peterson Elon Musk'
TH-cam no longer allows the sharing of links
@@summan41man thanks!
@@noorzanayasmin7806 You're welcome, enjoy.
It is by first humbling ourselves and accepting we need grace through faith in Jesus, that we can strive to be perfect and follow Jesus' teachings.
instant gratification is a big toxic for me.
Even though the words of Jesus remain the same in Gospels, we all approach them differently in some sense
Elon Musk is happily married with 12 children!
11 now... because one is trans so he declared them dead.
the interview blocked huh
This is an interesting conversation. Jordan is word salad incarnate. Was Jordan interveiwing Elon or was this part not like the rest? Jordan seemed to be doing all the talking.
The journey is fine, but there are destinations as well. I remember in an education course at Kent State University in the early 1970s, being told that it was the process, not the product. I believe it's both. "Ever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth." --2 Timothy 3:7.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
Hey Cameron, atheist here. I've never put god first, I didn't really know anything about god until I went to college.
I think Spinoza is the one who puts it better :
_"Since love of God is the highest felicity and happiness of man, his final end and the aim of all his actions, it follows that he alone observes the divine law who is concerned to love God not from fear of punishment nor love of something else, such as pleasure, fame, ect., but from the single fact that he knows God, or that he knows that the knowledge and love of God is the highest good"._
And of course, god, for Spinoza, was nothing more than nature. Knowledge of god, for Spinoza, is knowledge of nature, it is knowledge of nature that gives you relief, that gives you beatitude, it is the pursuit of knowledge of nature that gives you purpose and happiness. It is also the knowledge of nature that gives you the power to establish "order" and fight off chaos and entropy... Too bad Spinoza was persecuted by the church... Like many influential intellectuals of his era...
So Spinoza believed that God is nature? Does God have a mind or was he just trying to resolve apparent contradictions between naturalism and his understanding of religion?
Interesting discussion. May I ask: why are you an atheist? Or alternatively: if the claims of Christianity were true, would you commit your life to Jesus Christ? What I think is important to mention is that God is more than just nature, but a Person with an intelligent mind. And the central premise of Christianity is that this Person went to a cross. In the words of John Lennox, "this at minimum tells me that God is not distant from human suffering but has Himself become part of it." If you should know the first thing about God, it should be that. And if you put God first for any reason, the primary reason should be that we love God because God first loved us.
Some song lyrics come to mind:
Some people think You're distant, just some words on a page
That You're nothing more than fables handed down along the way
But I've seen You part the waters when no one else could pull me from the deep
That's who You are to me
But without God all of those things are ultimately meaningless, they may give you a personal sense of subjective meaning, but they would still have no objective meaning in the grand scheme.
@@e_s2978 *-"May I ask: why are you an atheist?"*
That's a hard one, I guess the first factor is : because I wasn't born in a religious family.
*-"Or alternatively: if the claims of Christianity were true, would you commit your life to Jesus Christ?"*
First, not to *"jesus christ"...* Jesus was a man. Second, yes, if the claims of christianity were true, I would be committed to god.
*-"What I think is important to mention is that God is more than just nature, but a Person with an intelligent mind."*
Sure... Are there no persons with intelligent minds in nature ?
*-"And the central premise of Christianity is that this Person went to a cross."*
Yes, I call it : "the biggest con in human history"
*-"If you should know the first thing about God, it should be that."*
That's such a pity you would push that first, as, in my opinion, this is the most repulsive thing about christianity...
*-"And if you put God first for any reason, the primary reason should be that we love God because God first loved us."*
Why am I not a god then ? If god loves us, why didn't he create us as gods ? Why would he deprive us of perfection ? Why would he create us less than perfect if he loved us ?
@@Nick-ij5nt *-"But without God all of those things are ultimately meaningless, they may give you a personal sense of subjective meaning, but they would still have no objective meaning in the grand scheme."*
Right... So if they give me a *"subjective meaning",* then they are not *"meaningless"...*
Though he has his flaws, Jordan Peterson is more interesting than all of his left-wing critics.
Yeah watching someone slowly decline into madness and anger is fascinating.
Buddhism reaches the goal without a god. Therefore, believe in a god is not necessary to reach the final destination.
Pagan Religion, deception tool from the Devil
It's great to wake up to the Sermon on the Mount! Jordan: "Make the presumption that other people have the same intrinsic value as you do." Elon: "Well, we have to be careful about that one." Jordan goes on to say that they would discuss that further in a moment. I would like to hear that discussion, because Elon's response indicates that he doesn't believe, or doesn't want to believe, that everyone is as intrinsically valuable as him. I hear a lot of "anti-wokeism" among conservatives without a true definition of the term "woke"...they just label it "Marxist" and dismiss it. Most people know nothing about Marxist philosophy except that it's "all bad". The "label & dismiss" fallacy shuts down the conversation. A true dialog needs to be had, because the original meaning of "woke" is, in its simplest terms, the belief in that universal intrinsic value of all human beings, which has been denied to certain groups of people throughout human history. To be "woke" is to be aware of that fact. That's all "woke" means. At the end of the day, both fascism (far right) and communism (far left) deny intrinsic human worth. That narrow path in between is where we ought to be. I would love to see you interview a proponent of wokeism and open up some real dialog.
no it does not line up
I Love Jordan. I do NOT UNDERSTAND why people like you repost his works and try to add value- like we need you to explain him? You are like the very priests and Pharisees that Jesus came to liberate us from. We do NOT need your filter. Create something original and quit plagiarizing.
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We, as Christians, can't follow Jordan Peterson's ideas. They are something of their own.
We can follow JP’s ideas as long they don’t contradict the church. Jp is a Christian and he is getting closer to God day by day
He unravels the psychological significance of biblical narratives. It's hugely important.
“A person who is a good and true Christian should realize that truth belongs to his Lord, wherever it is found, gathering and acknowledging it even in pagan literature, but rejecting superstitious vanities and deploring...” - St. Augustine
@@damnitfrank1305 JP is a Christian?
What do you mean by Christ ian? If by Christ you mean the allegorical figure of a deity, the motifs connect to what one might say is a belief. If by ian you mean in connection to the spiritual than one has a connection to spiritual in all one does. The essence of who we are is seen in our decisions to be a Christ-ian.
@@littlejerrythecagefighter1163 What psychological significance even is? Is there a real significance and a psychological one?
I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison, where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❣️♥️❤️
Excuse me for real?,how is that
possible I have struggling
financially, how was that possible?
Thanks to Elizabeth Marie Hawley.
I always appreciate God for his kindness upon my life
YES!!! That's exactly her name (Elizabeth Maria Hawley) so many people have recommended highly about her and am just starting with her 😊 from Brisbane Australia🇦🇺
I have heard a lot of wonderful things about Elizabeth Maria Hawley on the news but didn't believe it until now. I'm definitely trying her out
I feel better already!
The extraordinary crisis ?
Is that normal for learning religion or a change of beliefs systems ?
If so that would be incredibly helpful
I used to follow this channel. Not only have I unfollowed it, now I will ask TH-cam to not recommend it. It’s no longer Christian. It’s a desperate lunge into right wing and conservative Christianity in its full distortion. Right wing and conservative Christianity, and left wing and liberal Christianity go off the rails and create a faith that has nothing to do with scripture.
you know the righ-left political split is completely arbitrary, right?
Alex O'Connor > Elon + Peterson
*Definitely go through the nonsense Peterson said with Alex. Peterson can't even answer questions.*
You are a simpleton
Elon Musk is a Trump supporter and of course we know Trump prays everyday and asks God for guidance, follows Jesus teachings of love compassion kindness forgiveness repentance, of course!
Then he goes out and acts like the most vile man imaginable spreading fear and division everywhere he goes. I wonder why religion is dying?
Didn’t Peterson blaspheme in this interview?
Comment for traction
Very good video!
Jordan ain't what he seems folks. I reveal some truth about him...
Petersons jacket is so distracting that I can’t even hear what he’s saying
In no way did Jordan Peterson at all tie Elon’s ideologies to Jesus. He says that he is “religious.” you are bending a message to something it isn’t and I find this type of bending and word play to be extremely annoying. Mostly because you are taking what was said completely out of context. To be religious is to believe in SOMETHING that doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Jesus. In fact Peterson goes even FARTHER to specify that elon is a humanist and his “religion” is the augmentation of humanity. Did you even listen to the conversation? Peterson ALSO uses stories about religion which Elon was really not that particularly interested in. Stop putting words in people’s mouths to serve your own marketing scheme for the gospel, thanks. Your video and a thumbnail is a lie therefore it is sin by your own principles, btw.
In the end there is "secular" anxiety and there is "Catholic" anxiety. It doesn't take genius to sort out the difference. One focuses on the easy life, no suffering and the opposite (Catholic) focuses on accepting suffering and seeking God. Why is this so confusing?.
Disturbing
Peterson loves his giant word salads lol
Yall call everything thats above 5 grade level a word salad lol
@@justmbhman Agreed. I see people say this all the time for stuff that is really pretty easy to understand.
The more intelligent you are, the harder you try to dumb down your words so others can appreciate what you're conveying. Jargon and complex choice of words do a better job at conveying succinct, meaning that can not be misinterpreted.
@marcmckenzie1983 I wonder how many ppl that call Petersons talks "word salads" just aren't used to high level academic conversations. Maybe cuz on TH-cam so much is simplified or made bite-sized and it's uncommon to have these high level talks.
🤗🥰♥️🙏
When God is not first then it's either me, sin, or general revelation
This page seems AI
I love that we have Jordansplainers to help us digest him lol ❤
Jordan doesn't actually believe anything he says about religion. He's simply saying it because the majority of his audience are religious.
Please don’t platform men like these.
U mean Gods creation. Equality
@@laurelsoderholm9480 Who’s next, Nick Fuentes? Andrew Tate?
I deny Jesus
Fool
Two people who have no idea who God is!
💯 agree
How did you prophecy with such accuracy?