1v1 Rematch vs Extreme AI
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I challenge myself to outboom the new extreme AI with no walls, towers, or attacking until 30 minutes. Also, I'll be trying a new Definitive Edition civilization: The Lithuanians.
Patreon: / spiritofthelaw
Full intro song: • Spirit of the Law Chan...
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Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions
step 1: watch Spirit's video trashing higher level AI
step 2: *feel like boss* and pick a medium AI to play against
step 3: get attacked in feudal age
step 4: quit
repeat after few days
and i'm proud of being able to 1 vs 2 on standard mode.. but once 1 vs 3 i struggle haha
I've never seen the AI not pick up relics straight after reaching castle age. Is extreme not doing that?
@@Muenni I agree, every single moderate AI game I've played, all relics are gone around 20 minutes in.
😂😂😂
well it's normal, the new AI literally cheats as it doesn't even need to explore the map to know the location of mines, relics and your units, buildings, they see you all the time, sometimes a good idea is to lure them away with a scout since the IA is sadist it will chase you till the end of earth so for while you can build up or you can just wall yourself infinitely lol
I feel like an old man watching this. I'll never, ever understand how you guys attain that level of speed and precision in these games.
They use hot keys.
@AtelierMeko prolly has lots of RGB for fps boost...
Its x1.5
@@tey156 no it's not
@@tey156 its 1.7 which is as the description on top says is Normal.
"I'm not going to attack it until after 30 minutes"
>Video is 34 minutes long
AI: *nervous sweating*
Game is at 1.7 speed.
30 mins are in game time not real time
I think he meant 30 ingame minutes, which aren't the same as actual minutes. 30 ingame minutes at this game speed are about 20 actual minutes.
at 1.7x speed
SOTL: Let's not raid each other and just boom for 30 min
AI: ok boomer
Spirit of the law : *plays a no rush game*
Also spirit of the law : *picks an early rush civilization*
Having just seen the Lithianian stats and techtree in streams, I do not find the early game rushy. Maybe a monk rush to get as many relics as possible. Needed for the Cavalry Buff and to offset the weak gold mining.
And then you got the choice if you want to go cav or monk focus - hardly enough gold for both.
Among the new ones, Cumans are *the* rush civ. They can go full on assault or eco boom with Feudal age, but their Imperial is not overly strong. Also they do not get even Stonewalls or Tower Tech.
How is he so pro
@@christopherg2347 couldn't agree more but i was talking about like the overall ; additional food cause of that civilization and even this map starting conditions all are rush to go conditions.
@@masternobody1896 through normal training and a normal workout regime
@@MK_Creed yes 100 push and 100 sits ups and 10k run
Ahh, these lithuanians battling it out in the serengeti... that's the stuff.
Such accuracy much history
Muh immersun
Wait till you see those vikings in Vietnam
@@remipoujoulat7759 Japaneses vs Bizantines in Yucatan
@@remipoujoulat7759 wait until you see the ethiopeans fighting the koreans in amazon
'We're under attack!'
Spirit: 'Keep booming.'
'But there's a full squadron of archers up there and the mill is on-'
Spirit: 'KEEP. BOOMING.'
'Y-yes milord.'
Seriously, you do not crack under pressure.
That is almost no pressure.
Yeah... I imagine that in a real life scenario with the peasants screaming in terror and their feudal lord commanding them to keep farming rolfmao
@@Jartran72 This is fair. I'm not exactly great at AoE 2, so having enemy troops right at my doorstep like that would probably cause me to down tools and crank a military out.
@Anti Nerf very nice
ok boomer
Regarding the mills: the AI probably suffers from Don Quixote syndrome after all these defeats.
1111
Jacob Nion wut?
i also noticed that the AI seems to build more unnecessary docks around water too.
@@doflamingo92quixote28 did you seriously not get it, or is the joke that you do get it since your name is Quixote? xD otherwise I can explain it!
Noa Green yes because of name tbh 😂😂
I didn't realize how bad I was at this game until i watched you
SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should see TheViper
I can't be the only one that panics when I hear the "You are being attack!" noise...
how to win against 3 extreme ai's:
Step 1 : build 20 mills around your base
Step 2: fast castle
step 3: profit
Stonks
Very important: Don't let them pick Saracenes, or your Mills will fall in no time :)
? Your A.I. must be drunk.
I can't help but feel like every time you play a match, I can just imagine your calm voice narrating the game in the game world, and it's a booming voice from god just saying, "ok so I'm gonna build this lumber mill now..." while your knights chase down villagers fleeing in terror. Terrifying.
Reminds me of Bob Ross and his "happy little accidents".
@@Gyallarhorn1 We are going to put a lumber mill here because those trees are way too happy.
When your friend invites you to a match and you think he's just a casual then he starts exploring by sheeps!!!
his so experts and can turn down the enemy easiLy. by:khrieg
@@nollanakmadol935 what?
13:00 that hit and run move with the spearman by the AI, taking into account that spearmen hit slower than knights, is very smart. It avoids some damage while the spearman recharges its attack.
You only have to shoot boar once for it to follow you, but if you shoot once, it will change target to the closest villager that attacks it. Thats why the first boar was attacking a vil before he got into the TC :D
Tks juli
"I've got a lot of wood and gold but I can't make arbalests."
Siege Workshop: AM I A JOKE TO YOU
this week is the best in youtube there ever was xD every day like 5 high quality aoe 2 videos
rest in peace my uni studies
True
Spirit of the Law is so good at making videos. Putting those total food informations at the start, poking fun at the villager killing the goat... Even the little video showing the Unique Unit while he talks about it. Really knows how to make the video more dynamic. Love it!
I love the fact that they even remastered the unused tracks (those tracks were being used during the aoe2 age of kings demo but for some reason left out in the full age of kings version)
@21:26 was really impressive for the A.I. It usually tries to build its building by rushing more villagers when under attack or it leaves the building for you to destroy. Instead it destroyed the building itself to regain resources, and spread its villagers in different directions!
Spirit Of The Law: Hussar is worst unit upgrade in the game.
Also Spirit Of The Law: -upgrades to Hussar-
add on: when he is desperately in need of food
Hahahaha fr 😂
"a new teutinic knight killer"
oh yeah, as if we haven't enough already xD
snafing yeah seriously. That unit needs some love.
Makes sense though, after all it was Lithuania and Poland who historically annihilated the Teutonic knights.
That was more because the Polish-Lithuanian alliance slowly defeated the knights over the course of several wars, and less because the Lithuanians had cavalry armed with magical armor piercing lances of doom.
snafing Yeah, I’m not sure there’s a reason to play Teutons anymore. A shame as it’s my favorite in terms of background and playstyle, but other civs do their job better.
Conversion resistance, maybe, but I hardly see monks used outside of Aztecs these days, and they’re already set with their infantry bonuses.
Byzantines are a better tank civ with their building hp bonus, and Franks make cheaper castles. Even the Bulgarians have mini-castles. Kinda outclasses Teutons’ defensive buildings. Their castles have awesome range, but unless it hits trebuchets, it’s no good.
Teutons’ farm bonus is cool but doesn’t do a whole lot, and now the Teutonic Knight has a hard counter against its armor. Aside from decent hp and great attack, it doesn’t have a whole lot going for it. Its speed kills it already.
Combine that with no light cav and no archers, they’re hamstrung. Don’t mean to appear upset, but I’m concerned that certain civs have no advantages whatsoever.
@@TheKripox The Lithuanians historically were very good at using heavy javelins on horseback, which were very effective against armor at close range. Look up the Battle of Saule.
Considering their history with the Teutonic knights, it's probably the most on the nose historical reference ever put in AOE
17:20 that journey through the wormhole! standing ovation!!
That blew my mind too!
I need the new civilitations overview
Check T90
@@KareemEltouny hate to say it but T90s overviews were pretty crap, check The Vipers.
@@Vrussk I like T90 but I agree. He left out the monk portion of a monk civ
Yeah T90 really dropped the ball in this aspect, not sure what happened there. Hera made a great overview.
@@thesilentavenger even stranger, he totally mischaracterized the unique unit as something that is trash against trash units. Of course it is. It wasn't made to attack those.
when you pick cumans and your team starts to blame you cause they are losing:
i am only cuman after all, don't put your blame on me...
@Abacus haha lol
lmfao
lol
Hahahaha
Huh??
Is it just me or it does looks so good that every match is like a game trailer?
Yes it looks amazing, thinking of getting this aoe again, its been years since ive played conquerors
Why does the moderate AI attack in a much more aggressive manner than the extreme AI here? I keep getting swarmed with units, all the time...
seriously!!
Moderate atacks all the time losing eco boom and send small troops early, extreme send huge armys at late after eco boom
I find DE Moderate doesn't attack until Castle, its DE Hard which goes for the Flush
@Ben Dub Somewhere that feels kind of counterintuitive, right? Like, if you're ahead in score, shouldnt the AI provide more of an aggressive challenge?
Could be a score thing tho
@@terrab1ter4 they try to counter you, so if you make no military, a lot of the time they won't make a lot.
Also it's a bit random
Every Teutonic knight gangsta till the Leitis starts ignoring all of their melee armour.
Well... cheaper Farms kind of affect food and wood. So those bitch ass Teutons have an easier time spamming Halberdiers against the Leitis.
I wanted to view this video right away when it came out, but then thought to myself "it's ok, there no need to rush"
I imagine we're gonna run out of possible civilizations before 2030 and then we'll have like Martians or something
Nah I don't think so. The world pretty big and that equals many army's around the world to work with.
It already started. Bulgarians are slavs, so...
@@VK-sz4it Maybe they meant to add Bulgars instead tho? I mean, the bonuses do seem consistent with those
@@kln5705 Yeah, I guess, that makes sense
2030 AOE match: Neo-Goths vs Terry and his mates from down the road.
"Hey guys, Spirit of the La Hire"
27:05 "Looks like he's taking that gold too, but maybe they could share it"
Narrator: They could not share it. 28:28
Your uploading rate has improved dramatically in the Definitive edition.
Considering how much the new AI obsesses over attacking mills, I wonder if that makes mill walls a valid strategy
Millwalls around Castle = win easy.
Where is the Elephant Fact!?
I was expecting it when you talked about it.
I love the fact, that the villigers and other units actually talk Lithuanian :D whenever you clicked to hunt some Zebras, they said "Eime medžioti!", which means "Let's go hunting!" :D tasked a female villager to go in a specific spot to build something, she said "supratau", meaning "got it". Whenever you just click on a male idle villager, he says "sveiki!", meaning "hello" :D there is so much details in the game that most people don't even realise. But it just makes this game unique and awesome :) love the channel, spirit
Its with all the cultures its great
@@HandsomeGamerGuy i mean, i realise that. But i never paid any attention to those kind of details. Now, when i understand the language, it's my mothers tongue, i finally realised how cool are those details. :D
Even like the AI is named Treniota, who was a duke of Lithuania back in 1263-1264. Which is awesome :D
@@markomancikas Well they have to get *some* History correct. They even failed to give the Chinese Gunpowder aswell as Printing x)
when spirit plays against the extreme AI: 10 minute feudal age
when i play against the extreme AI: 4 minute feudal age
.... o.o
Zebra: After so many time i've come back to you
Spirit of the law: get lost im with another zebra now
The most soothing voice on youtube! Completely missed the definitive edition till last week and I'm so hyped. Love your videos, feeling bad for not watching them in a while but it feels great to come back to watching them now, just wanted to thank you for your awesome content real quick
Units actually speaking in Lithuanian. Damn thats a nice touch.
They all speak their languages
I am really hoping the redo the models for archers, skirmishers, swordsmen and pike man for the Aztecs mayans etc to make them look more in accordance to their civ and not European looking
You’re one of the few youtubers I don’t mind watching ads for :-)
"And here you can look upon the burning mill"
"What's so special about it (not counting the actual safety danger)?"
"The legend says it started burning about 300 years go, and it still is since then"
27:48 Spirit's setup
U, stable: because it looks like a horseshoe, obviously | I, barracks: because it looks like a standing man | O, archery range: because it looks like a rose | P, siege workshop: petard wannabes | H: towncenter: hsjjj haa!
I was about to fall asleep and then I heard Lithuanian voices I thought wtf? And then I realised that it's because of its a Lithuanian civilization. Cool respect for the game.
They were seriously dedicated to the quality of the civs
Spirit of the Law work ethic:
I don't care, I don't need those workers anyway.
Nice to see you doing more casual gameplay content, loving it!
we need more gameplays from you Spirit. It’s a religious experience watching you play. Love AOE🤘🏻
I like how it says that the Lithuanians are a monk civ even though they were the last pagan country in Europe lol
Maybe that's a crude way to represent it, since we don't have different types of religious buildings.
Maybe they are acknowledging they held onto their original faith the longest
@@followingtheroe1952 Wouldnt pay attention to public census, few who are unironically religious.
Pagan monks I guess?
Atheism is very different than paganism
Seems strange how the AI got so fixated on attacking your mill with those skirmishers, it could have done a lot more damage attacking your villagers.
I like this game a lot, but its really just my chill game. The way you and Viper play is so fast and seems more stressful than fun!
Is it not worth getting the relics for the + cav attack here? I thought that would be pretty good considering there are 2 relics pretty close.
Okay sorry I didn't realise you got them later in the video
EDIT: Can you show the way the new Cobra car looks and attacks? Or any new cheat codes that have been added
Spirit out here beating the extreme AI even with a self imposed restriction
I can't even beat the Resonance Bot on Hard difficulty
welll Resonance bot cheating, it probably stronger
Resonance got on hard cheats and is more difficult than hardest he and probably this. It is rated for like 1750 players
Resonance Bot is harder than standard AIs. Check Barbarian AI ]:->
I can keep up with it until the 15th minute or so, after that the AI starts creating endless military
I played against the extreme ai and honestly it's not that good
This is one thing I don't get, when I watch Spirit play against an EXTREME AI, they do basically nothing....they attacked you with a few man at arms and archers and one ram attempt... that was basically it. It wasn't early or anything, it was like at the 25 minute mark of your waiting 30 to attack.
I play against the Hard AI so 2 levels down, but while they don't really attack you in feudal, the second they hit castle, which varies between 20-30 minutes, you get hit by a swarm of skirms and archers or around 10 knights if you don't have walls up, which is then proceeded by a spam of rams. I just don't get how they can AFFORD to do this while still aging up semi quickly. I've had early castle age attacks that they sent about 30 skirms at me, that is about what? 600 food 600 wood? That isn't a small amount, moreso early game. (FYI I can handle Hard just fine, just was an issue when I was learning it, currently trying against Hardest...one to go)
The AI Spirit is playing against feels vastly easier....for being 2 above Hard.
Similar experience here. I noticed it took the AI a long time to hit imperial, so it probably has something to do with it - I would have to watch the replay, but I suspect that the TC which got ranged by Spirit's defensive castle was doing their imp upgrade. That might explain why it took them so long to age up. It's usually incredible at booming.
Depends on the map, i have noticed that if you play in black forest AI usually gets more aggressive
Agreed, I get exactly the same experience. Normally by 30 minutes the AI is spamming units like crazy..you can literally follow the lines of units they are spamming all the way back to their base with no signs of stopping. I then watch this and they send what I wouldn't even categories as an "army" AFTER 30 minutes of booming. Something seems very suspect...
@@PhilHevican yes..me too until i realized the ai had 3 archery camp...at medium level...
it's seems very suspect you say..i know the feeling but it's wrong..
we suck at this game..this is the fact :-)
30 mins is late game, the ai usually reaches castle age at 18 mins, youre playing too slow pal, you should be on castle age by that time if oyu wanna have a chance or rush early..
I think taking the forward zebras really helped you out a lot, as well as that mill. The AI is probably thinking that it is stopping you from using farms. In normal player games, you would not get away with that unless the other guy is defending at home.
28:30 You freakin' MONSTER! :)))
I miss the musical intro. Pls bring it back!
Definitive edition looks great but I wish they would have added more variation in the units. Not asking for different units for each civilization but different unit sets to go with each architecture set would be cool
"Got her with the invisible part of his longsword"
Well, they do call it a LONGsword...
i am loving and looking forward to these kind of vids. keep up the good work Spirit :)
Nobody:
Villager: ''Hey, Mr. Deep!''
Thanks, now I can't unhear it.
It seems the AI needs a pip more logic: archers to attack villagers, not buildings.
yeah and not suicide under forum/castle range.
the AI has improved but still is weak in many areas. AI builds a lot of military buildings unnecessarily.
The mad man has done it again
Upvoted for Lithuania 🇱🇹
13:30
The AI thought mills are giants.
Spirit did you know that you now can queue different type of actions with your villagers? Like sheep-->boar-->sheep or mill-->deer--berries?
especially the first one means that you don't have to micro nearly as much.
At 29:35 that villager just walls himself between the buildings. That can't be the first time you've done that. Great work.
I've never watched anybody play this game before, nevermind anyone really good at it, and it just blew my mind the speed of everything that's happening.
2:31 Sounds just liek a sound from Empire Earth!
I feel like the Ai is no where near as hard as it used to be. The ai in the HD version was 10X harder, and would rush you early as possible.
yeah I'm confused as fuck right now. Literally nothing happened in this video...
@@ezioaugustus2621 the castle killed most of the enemies but yeah. Not much happened
I had it set to 2v2 and I got double rushes while my teammate ai was idle. I found out later they started out with way more animals than I did
@@magicmanscott40k Its been known that the AI has always been cheating. However, its basically known that if the AI has the same amount of resources as the player does, then it has no chance, as some players know how to do the fedural age rush, or perhaps the tower rush.
@@Lonezewolflonewolf only the original ai used Cheats, the new and DE ai don't use Cheats.
That move at 17:30 where you get the villagers on the other side of the castle was genius 😂
26:23 - this is what I needed to see. I've been using too few barracks/archery ranges/etc. I need to build more and learn the hotkey to cycle buildings like that.
good stuff, thanks
Waiting for the new civs videos :D
20:58 "anus, anus, anus, anus" hahaha
Would be good to see you rematch given the updates to extreme AI. New one seems MUCH better than old one. Same rules: no rush, no towers, no stone walls so the AI exploits aren't so easy.
first game I've seen you play.
I haven't played AOE for at least 10 years now.
A lot of times I've been thinking "wait, when did he even build/order that?!"
Spirit of The Law: "I am not going to attack until after 30 minutes"
Length of the video: 34 minutes
Me: "Wow... OK..."
Ndjock Michel bro. In game time 30 mins=15 mins real time
@@Recker096 Yeah, thanks. I'd figured that out.
I'd like to watch you play a navy based game at least once.
Naval Action ! best game ever !!
Am I the only one thinking that Spirit of the Law is badly addicted to trash units? In the end of the game he had a pile of gold sleeping in the bank, but still he would just make skirmishers, halberdiers and hussars, even with a paladin and FU cavalry archer civ!
Oh man the speed of this guy is just amazing
DE:*exists*
AoE youtubers: *stonks*
1:04 did...did you say that on purpose? Because that's actually historically accurate for the most part. Also, super excited to see more of your commentaries.
No he had a stroke and those were random sounds... ofc he said it on purpose...
@@Jartran72 He could have picked literally any other high armor unit in the game and the point would have been made. Rather, he choose the traditional enemy of the old Lithuanians, a nice historical anecdote most people wouldn't get, such as yourself, moron.
yeah, probably a hint to the polish lithuanian teutonic war and the Battle of Grunwald :-)
Yes yes yeeees, Nice video Spirit. Cant wait for famous math of yours done on aoe2de!!
Also for AI fights would be nice to see you+3 weaker ai(mb with old civs) vs 4 extreme ai with new civs.
Hello Spirit. To queue up a bunch o trash much quicker, just press your "all barracks", or "all stables" or "all whatever" hotkey, then shift click a few times on the unit.
Best aoe youtuber
Spirit: AoE 2
SamuraiRev: AoE 3
(my personal view)
Only I need a AoM player and AoE 1.
@@davidcalixtro2612 definitely theViper for aom xD prostagma
Brace yourself:
For early likers and commenters
And those who mock them
Ryan Grenier And those who comment on them
Meta
*surprised pikachu face*
Thanks for explaining the one elephant food source thing. All this time I wondered why I didn't see a second animal lure. I thought I was getting robbed lol
Please, please, please more gameplay videos. They are definetly my favorite type of videos from you!
i cant tell, if Spirit is such a good player, or the extreme ai isnt extreme...
I have very low elo in aoe, and i can beat 2 extreme AI even if i let them boom. So probaly the extreme ai isnt extreme.
next game: Spirit of the Law vs. 3 Extreme DE KI's, Spirit: Ethiops; KI: Goths, Vietnams, Inkas - No rush 20. Good luck on this challange ;)) will see if u accept
Spirit beats Ex AI with no towers, no rush 30 min, no stone walls
Person who designed the AI: Am I a joke to you?
@2:03 Food is not going to be a problem here!...10 seconds later...-Not enough food! XD
How is the new extreme AI? It looked a little smarter in the free for all, but i dont think that it is as good as promised - it has many of the old flaws and even seems to do worse in some situations. All in all, no one of the AoE 2 Players I play with plans to buy or switch to AoE 2 DE, because we arent convinced that it will meet Voobly or even HD standarts.
DE is so much smoother and polished than HD in Multiplayer, have you seen online play in it?
@@Christopher4700 The servers arent stresstested yet. iI saw a few games with laggs, most without, but I havent seen any chinese or vietnamese players playing american or european players. Also i saw many bugs, like glitches and bugging sprites. We hope that the release version will be fixed - but until then we wont switch.
@@hermanncapulet5485 k
it seems that the villagers say something like "they miss the deal"
every time they build something :v
I keep hearing “Hey Mr Bean”
They're just saying "we're going to build" in lithuanian.
meanwhile, Bulgarians just say "prick lasagna" and "robocop"
Extreme AI doesn't seem to be making as many units or being as aggressive as the hardest AI on the HD edition. I enjoy more casual games so I usually play against the AI on hard and play slow and build nice cities with walls and stuff but I have played against the hardest AI a few times... and each time it's hitting me with large armies relentlessly after around the 20 minute mark. Didn't seem to do that here. Just a few groups of crossbows and skirms.
SOTL i realized that depending on every civ they act quite different in every game. Try against an aggressive civ like aztecs, huns or slavs. Also Lithuanians is a new civ, it probably doesnt have an aggressive playstyle. Love ur videos man, keep up the good work. Greetings from Argentina!
I love this game and i'm pro in Age of empires 2 and 3
@@hyperstition5344 Yeah look him up
Then make some quality videos you lazy egg
Jartran72 pro is a player, not necessarily a streamer or TH-camr you noob
hyperstition nope, pro is someone who is good at what they’re doing
hyperstition sorry, again no, they get paid only when people appreciate their effort and results 😂
As much as I love watching SoTL, my OCD is killing me with how and where he builds. I understand it's the "Pro Strat" but forgive me for being a casual player.
So many spirit of the law videos lately! Thank you for gracing us with your sultry voice.
Excellent Choice!
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