I fitted an X Force to my 2008 isf. Dyno ran before and after. Standard front manifolds and picked up 16hp through the mid range and also an associated torque rise. The second run was a very hot day so 20 hp increase would be accurate. Rolling road dyno. Sound is good balance not to loud in the car. Highly recommend.
Great content, love your channel. I was slightly dismayed that you have perpetuated the myth that the factory exhaust tips are "fake". This is a very common mistake but these tips are actually specifically designed to collect air and mix with the exhaust gas. The tips are aligned with the output ports of the muffler and mounted in a heat dissipating frame. The back side is contoured for collecting air and mixing with the exhaust for cooling to avoid melting the bumper under extended high rpm driving. Keep the great content coming, you're a natural at this. I've subscribed.
A lot of ISFs are changing hands on market within past few months. I recently acquired a USB 11' with xforce already on it few weeks ago. Drone is mild and tolerable. One thing that'll certainly reduce drone is having sound completely exit out the back via fully piping the rest of the exhaust to the faux tips so that the exhaust/sound fully exits where the tips are few mm past the bumper. This was tested first hand on my s2000 where the single exit was slightly behind the bumper and I had it pushed out a few inches that resulted in a noticeable drone reduction. Most ISF exhaust is ending right behind the bumper which will have sound waves travel back through the car. Not saying you mind the drone but for anyone interested in reading this maybe would help. Helmholtz and quarterwave cans are different thing for another day. Another thing I wanted to do was delete the muffler on one side and hear what that sounds like. Half as loud as double muffler delete of course maybe less overbearing. If you somehow decide to do this let me hear it haha. Deleting the muffler and having a delete that pipes the same distance/out the back will be much different. Team Xforce is literally going to be a ton of ISFs lol...
Got my Joe Z put on a couple months ago, I think the 8 speed trans helps a lot with drone as I really don't have much at all on the highway and I'm loving it. O2 sensors seem to be a consistent pain in the ass on our cars
@@EatSleepDrive : You Might have a Calif.Emissions Car,Bought my New 01 Tundra V-6 in Ga. But Somehow ,it had Calif.Emissions.which the O2 Sensors are FUEL AIR MIXTURE Sensors.Only way you can tell is by looking on under side of hood.If Car is Calif.Emiss.Equiped,the Tool to take them off is set up so that you have to have a Fuel Air Mixture O2 Tool to Remove & Repl.Them.a Reg.O2 sensor Will not work on a Calif.Emmis.Veh. Calif.Emissions Veh.
I have the x force exhaust in my 2011 is350 and it sounds so awesome. I think it feels noticeably faster with it probably because the stock exhaust system has 3 mufflers on it which might be holding back some of the horsepower and sounds from the amazing engine in it
Get the Xforce Varex. It’s valved and even with catless headers with I have no drone and plenty of power valves closed and it screams when I want it. Watch the video on my channel.
GrandMasta Grimm or get one with actual good parts. I have full headers and catback and it’s valved so only loud when I want it. When it’s closed it’s stock quiet yet still more power.
Just installed mine, sounds way better than stock . Videos are never going to do any exhaust justice! I’m gonna muffler delete with true quad tips . Should sound beefier. I’ll post on my channel soon .
My one thing of advice would be to remove the o2 sensors FIRST and not have half the front end mid pipe "hanging" from the o2 sensor wires.... I cringed when I saw that. Plus it's way easier to apply force when the mid pipe is still attached and not having to worry about the pipe moving like it was in your video when you were applying force to the o2 sensors... I just did an exhaust on my RCF and also a buddies RCF over the weekend.
@@CheaperEngineer There is only one belt and one belt tensioner, so if those correlate, then yes. Dayco is the OE of the tensioner assembly. I initially replaced only the belt with a Gates RPM. That fixed it for about two weeks. Slapped on the tensioner recently, so far so good. My F is a '14 with the latest tensioner assembly. It has been squeaking for ages.
If the exhaust is touching the cross bar this means your engine mount is gone. Get it replaced. I had this same problem. I changed my mounts when I installed the PPE headers
I have a 2015 RCF. Got an RR racing exhaust. Those o2 sensors were insane. It was an hour or more process once I got the socket and figuring out how not to break them. Also I did this all on jack stands and ramps while laying on my back. I do not advise that haha
EatSleepDrive it sure was. I filmed it and haven’t put up a vid yet. I’ll try to edit it all together. I’ll have some track day vids coming from autobahn in Joliet and road America in the next few weeks. I enjoy your content. I’ll have to come back down to cincy one of these weekends.
Hey bro, I have v8 Lexus 600hl, just checking if you have any idea about catalytic converters? On One of the bank my catalytic converter is burgered and throwing engine check light on dash. Is it ok to drive car like that? Or what shall I do? I am in a country where cat is super expensive and I don’t wish to instal new one. Shall I delete the cats? Will car engine have no issues? Can I drive it like that?
Do you have any fitment issue? I have to cut half inch of the tip since its hitting on the stock exhaust tips and now i heard some metal grinding sound when i hit potholes and i found out that its still hitting on the stock exhaust tips again. Did u tighten those exhaust hangers to the muffler before u install?
My understanding is worn engine and trans bushings may affect the fitment of the exhaust. I kept things loose during install and then tightened down. I did have to do a lot of tweaking but didn't have any metal grinding sounds.
ISF is miles better overall, but as a fun weekend car I would go STI or Evo. They're manual and I would say maybe a little more raw and fun. I wouldn't want to daily either of those, but as a weekend car they would be great.
Eventhough both the isf and mustang gt has a 5.0 v8 engine, it always sounds too muffled on video and nowhere near as good as a mustang GT or most american V8? Is it just that on video or it's like that too in-person?
The ISF does tend to sound less raucous than the Mustangs despite having the same displacement. The ISF sounds a little "cleaner" to my ears. Might come down to the different firing order they have..
th-cam.com/video/lchhkmIcosY/w-d-xo.html That's as close as it will get. Full titanium equal length headers, and titanium cat back. Kinda has that high pitch LFA/F1 car sound. This is a $13k exhaust system 😅
Nick Adkins as you mentioned , its kinda have that high pitch sound. But nope, still the LFA sound crazy 😍😍😍. I wish I can understand whats the secret of that high pitched sound
@Anita Ayon The eventual failure? Yeah that kinda scares me myself, got it at 118k and currently 124k. Repaired touch screen and subwoofer myself, otherwise issue free. The actuator and starter are the risks for it. Solid otherwise.
Lucky I have the same silver o2 sensor. Worked for me first go. Lol. My chassis brace also fouled on the exhaust. I ended up heating the bar and bending it a bit down for some clearance. I heard it might be due to engine mounts sagging, so maybe something to look at. I haven't bothered as yet. RR Racing also do upgraded engine mounts... Maybe an upcoming video? Hahaha
How much did you have to bend the brace to get enough clearance so your exhaust wouldn't touch? I have the same issue with mine and it constantly rattles. I've tried repositioning the exhaust a couple times and it always ends up just resting back on the bar. I'll have to look into your suggestion of the engine mounts sagging.
I can't get on board with the American fascination with muffler deletes. Its so incredibly antisocial. I was on holidays there last year and the volume off so many cars was obnoxious to the point that cars don't even sound special anymore.
@Streamlined Stock muffler delete sounds shitty compared to X Force muffler delete. Just like at the exhaust differences they’re so different. The X Force is true dual, is less restrictive, and no cats. Mines sounded like the LC 500. Gorgeous exhaust system (with mufflers deleted). Stock X Force sounds 15% louder than stock.
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Muffler delete is Trash, its not how you Mod properly. Its a POOR MANS Mod...
They say that but I got one last year in my Mach 1 Mustang no cats and it was 200 dollars I mean I really think it's BS anyways because a lot of these newer sports cars come from the factory loud
It's true but they don't really give you problems especially on am exhaust like this. As long as your not just straight catless being obnoxious asf they shouldn't bother you
Come on man. You're making the ISF crowd look bad. A true car guy mods a car because it looks, sounds, performs better. Not because it is the cheapest (first your aero and now the exhaust). Do some research like true car guys. Talk to other owners, see or hear their setups and then make a decision to your taste.
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I fitted an X Force to my 2008 isf. Dyno ran before and after. Standard front manifolds and picked up 16hp through the mid range and also an associated torque rise. The second run was a very hot day so 20 hp increase would be accurate. Rolling road dyno. Sound is good balance not to loud in the car.
Highly recommend.
Thanks for sharing. Good to know!
Wow, the exhaust note is not overbearing or drony, It actually amplifies the way the stock exhaust sound. Great job man, tasteful mods
Thanks! 👍
Great content, love your channel. I was slightly dismayed that you have perpetuated the myth that the factory exhaust tips are "fake". This is a very common mistake but these tips are actually specifically designed to collect air and mix with the exhaust gas. The tips are aligned with the output ports of the muffler and mounted in a heat dissipating frame. The back side is contoured for collecting air and mixing with the exhaust for cooling to avoid melting the bumper under extended high rpm driving. Keep the great content coming, you're a natural at this. I've subscribed.
A lot of ISFs are changing hands on market within past few months. I recently acquired a USB 11' with xforce already on it few weeks ago.
Drone is mild and tolerable. One thing that'll certainly reduce drone is having sound completely exit out the back via fully piping the rest of the exhaust to the faux tips so that the exhaust/sound fully exits where the tips are few mm past the bumper. This was tested first hand on my s2000 where the single exit was slightly behind the bumper and I had it pushed out a few inches that resulted in a noticeable drone reduction.
Most ISF exhaust is ending right behind the bumper which will have sound waves travel back through the car. Not saying you mind the drone but for anyone interested in reading this maybe would help. Helmholtz and quarterwave cans are different thing for another day.
Another thing I wanted to do was delete the muffler on one side and hear what that sounds like. Half as loud as double muffler delete of course maybe less overbearing. If you somehow decide to do this let me hear it haha. Deleting the muffler and having a delete that pipes the same distance/out the back will be much different.
Team Xforce is literally going to be a ton of ISFs lol...
How did you pipe the muffler to the faux tip?
My xforce is super quiet on my ISF. No cabin noise, no cats, headers and I can't tell if my valves are open unless I stop the car and rev
One of my dream cars keep up the ISF content
Have the same exhaust. Great sounding almost joez like. The price was a plus!
Where you buy it from
@@tylorsaechao6984 summit racing or map performance
Got my Joe Z put on a couple months ago, I think the 8 speed trans helps a lot with drone as I really don't have much at all on the highway and I'm loving it. O2 sensors seem to be a consistent pain in the ass on our cars
I've removed MANY o2's and never struggled getting them out like I did on this car. No idea what Lexus is doing at the factory..
@@EatSleepDrive : You Might have a Calif.Emissions Car,Bought my New 01 Tundra V-6 in Ga. But Somehow ,it had Calif.Emissions.which the O2 Sensors are FUEL AIR MIXTURE Sensors.Only way you can tell is by looking on under side of hood.If Car is Calif.Emiss.Equiped,the Tool to take them off is set up so that you have to have a Fuel Air Mixture O2 Tool to Remove & Repl.Them.a Reg.O2 sensor Will not work on a Calif.Emmis.Veh. Calif.Emissions Veh.
I have the x force exhaust in my 2011 is350 and it sounds so awesome. I think it feels noticeably faster with it probably because the stock exhaust system has 3 mufflers on it which might be holding back some of the horsepower and sounds from the amazing engine in it
Bought my ISF earlier this year and it came with an exhaust. Too loud and drones on the highway. Went back to stock and its loud enough for me.
Fortunately these things make awesome intake noises. But I get it, everyone has different preferences on exhaust noise.
Get the Xforce Varex. It’s valved and even with catless headers with I have no drone and plenty of power valves closed and it screams when I want it. Watch the video on my channel.
Dope how many miles
Was looking into one that’s stock, might keep it that way as well if I get one
GrandMasta Grimm or get one with actual good parts. I have full headers and catback and it’s valved so only loud when I want it. When it’s closed it’s stock quiet yet still more power.
You're driving my dreamcar! Great video. Let me know if you ever decide to sell it at an affordable price 👍
Deal!
Isf definitely not going to come down that much on price lol
@@Sesamestreet9080 they’ve only gone up now
@@xCkillaxC sadly yes
@@Sesamestreet9080 good for us F owners tho!
I get to out this in tomorrow morning in my house. I can't wait
Just FYI you can rent an O2 sensor kit like this from most parts stores (Advance, AutoZone, Orielley) for free (as long as you return it).
Just installed mine, sounds way better than stock . Videos are never going to do any exhaust justice! I’m gonna muffler delete with true quad tips . Should sound beefier. I’ll post on my channel soon .
Sounds great for real, just purchased a IS300 F2 sport and can't wait to do some stuff in the summer time.
Sounds great!
My one thing of advice would be to remove the o2 sensors FIRST and not have half the front end mid pipe "hanging" from the o2 sensor wires.... I cringed when I saw that. Plus it's way easier to apply force when the mid pipe is still attached and not having to worry about the pipe moving like it was in your video when you were applying force to the o2 sensors... I just did an exhaust on my RCF and also a buddies RCF over the weekend.
Highly recommend you get a new belt + tensioner. I hear the infamous squeak at high RPM, WOT shifting ;)
can you timestamp at when you heard that "infamous squeak" please? I'm unsure what it sounds like
@@CubanLegend561 One example: @9:21 just as he shifts after bouncing off the rev limiter. Another @9:30.
@@vVeazel very interesting note, i only noticed it at @9:30, very audible. thanks!
Are you recommending replacement of 90916-02632 and 16620-0W131 to fix the squeak?
@@CheaperEngineer There is only one belt and one belt tensioner, so if those correlate, then yes. Dayco is the OE of the tensioner assembly. I initially replaced only the belt with a Gates RPM. That fixed it for about two weeks. Slapped on the tensioner recently, so far so good. My F is a '14 with the latest tensioner assembly. It has been squeaking for ages.
NICE CHOICE 👌
Definitely headers next...it'll be your biggest power bump
Are you going to do any videos on that Fiat Spider? I had one as my first car and I have a soft spot for them.
If the exhaust is touching the cross bar this means your engine mount is gone. Get it replaced. I had this same problem. I changed my mounts when I installed the PPE headers
What exhaust
Very livable! I like it
Glad you like it!
I have a 2015 RCF. Got an RR racing exhaust. Those o2 sensors were insane. It was an hour or more process once I got the socket and figuring out how not to break them. Also I did this all on jack stands and ramps while laying on my back. I do not advise that haha
Also wish I had a fun car when I lived in cincy for a bit. I had a place in mt Adams. I’m from Chicago and currently live there.
Dude this on jack stands would have been brutal!
EatSleepDrive it sure was. I filmed it and haven’t put up a vid yet. I’ll try to edit it all together. I’ll have some track day vids coming from autobahn in Joliet and road America in the next few weeks. I enjoy your content. I’ll have to come back down to cincy one of these weekends.
@@micego46 plz put the video out
I have the same exhaust love it but with headers its gonna sound dope
Sounds nice!
it´s a tad louder than the bolra i had
I mean a whole cat back exhaust for $1000 on a v8 doesn't sound to expensive
Be honest how many $1k+ exhaust have you purchased? 1k doesn't sound bad anymore because they made the standard name brand 2k
10 years ago my wrx exhaust was $400... this year my RS5 V8 exhaust is 4K 😭😭
@@leenguyen3875 exactly been modifying cars 20 years not that long but every new generation of car they go up. You remember brand was it invidia?
Looks and sounds pretty sweet too me 👍
Great improvement! How are you enjoying the car on a daily basis compared to the M3?
Definitely more daily friendly than the M3.
@@EatSleepDrive have you driven an e39 M5 before (I don't recall) as I used to have one and I imagine it might compare well?
Hey bro, I have v8 Lexus 600hl, just checking if you have any idea about catalytic converters? On One of the bank my catalytic converter is burgered and throwing engine check light on dash. Is it ok to drive car like that? Or what shall I do? I am in a country where cat is super expensive and I don’t wish to instal new one. Shall I delete the cats? Will car engine have no issues? Can I drive it like that?
Do you have any fitment issue? I have to cut half inch of the tip since its hitting on the stock exhaust tips and now i heard some metal grinding sound when i hit potholes and i found out that its still hitting on the stock exhaust tips again. Did u tighten those exhaust hangers to the muffler before u install?
My understanding is worn engine and trans bushings may affect the fitment of the exhaust. I kept things loose during install and then tightened down. I did have to do a lot of tweaking but didn't have any metal grinding sounds.
The new lexus IS 350 F sport is out this month .
Do you know if this and all the other mods like the taillights, and the spoiler work well for the 2010 IS 250?
I like it ,it sounds very good
Thanks!
Did you guys just take the rear catalytics out?
It’s easier to remove o2 sensors after driving it
Do you still have this car dude?
How does it compare to the Evo 9? I know it is apples to oranges but i am trying to decide between an Evo 9, ISF and 05 STI for a fun weekend car.
ISF is miles better overall, but as a fun weekend car I would go STI or Evo. They're manual and I would say maybe a little more raw and fun. I wouldn't want to daily either of those, but as a weekend car they would be great.
How was this exhaust compared to the muffler delete? Feel any different between the 2 setups?
I didn't feel any difference in power. The muffler delete was way droney though, so that's a big difference.
Eventhough both the isf and mustang gt has a 5.0 v8 engine, it always sounds too muffled on video and nowhere near as good as a mustang GT or most american V8? Is it just that on video or it's like that too in-person?
The ISF does tend to sound less raucous than the Mustangs despite having the same displacement. The ISF sounds a little "cleaner" to my ears. Might come down to the different firing order they have..
@@EatSleepDrive my belief is that it's due to how it breathes, the ISF is a dual OHC with 4valves/cyl
It’s Bc the mustang have a push rod engine
Dies putting on a duff exhaust cause Havoc with your car's computer? Are you getting any check engine lights?
Nope since cats are still intact.
@@EatSleepDrive Thanks
Is there any affect on the low torque?
Nope, makes more power everywhere.
How much did the exhaust actually cost
It's about $800. I got mine for $700 through summit racing
Isf.👍 is great family hawler you can track on weekends smiles for thousands of miles some people think there just an is
Remove the dual silencers and it should sound a lot more throaty.
do you know if that cat exhaust would fit an 06 IS350?
No it wont
that rear muffler bracket is janky AF
How much was it
Small difference from stock, in sound.
Could the make an exhaust for the lexus as the LFA
th-cam.com/video/lchhkmIcosY/w-d-xo.html
That's as close as it will get. Full titanium equal length headers, and titanium cat back. Kinda has that high pitch LFA/F1 car sound. This is a $13k exhaust system 😅
Nick Adkins as you mentioned , its kinda have that high pitch sound. But nope, still the LFA sound crazy 😍😍😍. I wish I can understand whats the secret of that high pitched sound
@@salem99099 it was specifically engineered to sound like that by Yamaha. The LFA also has a full titanium exhaust.
Nick Adkins I wish one day I own that exhaust 😅
What's the squeal in between shifts mine has the same thing 🙄
Drive belt
How much does replacement cost ?
@@elijahberezin7407 idk
Any recommendations for a gs460?
Not too many options out there for that car since it's so rare. Might need to go custom. Regardless love your car! Never see them.
@@EatSleepDrive Thank you for your response! It was very hard to find, seems most of them clustered in Texas. It's a very nice car
@Anita Ayon The eventual failure? Yeah that kinda scares me myself, got it at 118k and currently 124k. Repaired touch screen and subwoofer myself, otherwise issue free.
The actuator and starter are the risks for it. Solid otherwise.
yea switch to an isf
Lucky I have the same silver o2 sensor. Worked for me first go. Lol.
My chassis brace also fouled on the exhaust. I ended up heating the bar and bending it a bit down for some clearance.
I heard it might be due to engine mounts sagging, so maybe something to look at. I haven't bothered as yet.
RR Racing also do upgraded engine mounts... Maybe an upcoming video? Hahaha
How much did you have to bend the brace to get enough clearance so your exhaust wouldn't touch? I have the same issue with mine and it constantly rattles. I've tried repositioning the exhaust a couple times and it always ends up just resting back on the bar. I'll have to look into your suggestion of the engine mounts sagging.
I just left mine off. It’s been fine
Fits 06 is350?
Nah it’s only for the IS F. The exhaust are different on both of these cars
Do a front bumper conversion!
what’s insurance like on these cars, anyone from southern california knows how much for insurance costs on the isF?
It's not that bad. I'm from CenCal and insurance for me is $96/mo for full coverage with AllState.
157 for full coverage on state farm, it was 180 the year before
Thanks for the reply guys
@@shiftautomotive854 also depends on your purchase price
Delete the mufflers, trust me. 90% LC 500 sound. I didn’t like the sound with mufflers on, it almost sounds stock.
You must not have catless headers?
Fiat 124
May i have your old exhaust for mine?
God I hate fake exhaust terminals 😕
Do muffler deletes ull like 👍 it more and will sound more beast
I can't get on board with the American fascination with muffler deletes. Its so incredibly antisocial. I was on holidays there last year and the volume off so many cars was obnoxious to the point that cars don't even sound special anymore.
Dude, that’s what he HAD. He got tired of no muffler and installed this exhaust. And it sounds better than the muffler delete.
It sounds like dog shit and drones.
@Streamlined
Stock muffler delete sounds shitty compared to X Force muffler delete. Just like at the exhaust differences they’re so different. The X Force is true dual, is less restrictive, and no cats. Mines sounded like the LC 500. Gorgeous exhaust system (with mufflers deleted). Stock X Force sounds 15% louder than stock.
Muffler delete is Trash, its not how you Mod properly. Its a POOR MANS Mod...
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Dude, that things sounds fruity :D
Illegal to mod ur muffler in cali 1000$ ticket
You must be joking? I stayed with a friend in SF last year and every two minutes so obnoxiously loud truck or car would roll by.
They say that but I got one last year in my Mach 1 Mustang no cats and it was 200 dollars I mean I really think it's BS anyways because a lot of these newer sports cars come from the factory loud
I moved out of that crap hole 4 years ago... sad such a beautiful state has gone to trash.
It's true but they don't really give you problems especially on am exhaust like this. As long as your not just straight catless being obnoxious asf they shouldn't bother you
Didn't they change that law after a couple months? Before you'd get a state ref as well
Sounds the same not even worth the money. Go big or go home. Anyone who thinks this sounds good hasn’t heard a fully straight piped ISF
Remove the mufflers on this and I bet it’s loud
Don Yan yeah it would be I wish he would have shown the straight pipe sounds when he removed the stock exhaust
@@dongyan8717 I can attest to this, it sounds way better with mufflers off on this exhaust. Nice and crispy
I never liked the looks of these stacked, offset, exhaust tips
Come on man. You're making the ISF crowd look bad. A true car guy mods a car because it looks, sounds, performs better. Not because it is the cheapest (first your aero and now the exhaust). Do some research like true car guys. Talk to other owners, see or hear their setups and then make a decision to your taste.
"True car guys" bahahahhaa