Max's start wasn't bad at all, it was quite good compared to the whole field. Vettel came off worse than Verstappen. Ricciardo was the slowest of all and Kimi's was just perfect, probably the best start of all on the grid which shows us that there's still fire in him but he's so unlucky :(
I will never understand how there are people that blame Max for this. In my opinion it is a racing incident. Vettel perhaps squeezed too much, but I honestly think that he didn't see where Kimi was. Max had nowhere to go, and slamming on the brakes is as risky as holding a line. Unfortunate for all involved =(, including us fans.
man, unintentionally is also wrong, but in my view it was totally intentional, so much so that he squeezed clearly thinking that the verstappen was going to slow down, which was not the case.
It was totally Vettel's mistake and a bad one. You cannot say that he did not see Kimi. He driver to the left and not even try tp leave room there. Verstappen and Kimi were already next to him but he did not care/watch and a driver needs to make sure if someone is there. That is most likely Vettel's worst mistake by taking out 3 cars but if I remember right, he did not get any penalty. If someone did that this years (2023), grid penalty 100% at least and maybe something else.
Alonso was going right into P3... another unlucky day unfortunately, for a lot of drivers. I don't really follow Palmer, but happy he got a good result.
Because Verstappen was behind Kimi, turned the steering towards Kimi and crashed into Kimi. Suddenly he takes Vettel and Alonso out too. Who else could be to blame beside Verstappen?
@@MaximEmer Prescription glasses are cheap these days, contact lenses are an option too. Maybe you should tell us what Max was supposed to do exactly, hold station and hit Vettle who was coming over at an unacceptable angle ...
Kimi's start would have been great if Seb had seen him coming. Seb's move would have been legit if Kimi wasn't already alongside Max. Max just found himself between the Ferraris' tires before he could react. Even though none of them acted wrong in any way, I still think Vettel's aggressive way to defend his position is the source of the crash. There's nothing Kimi and Max could have done to avoid this. It just wouldn't have happened if Seb kept his line and conceeded his position to Max, and afterwards to Kimi, since he would have got the advantage on both Seb and Max in the 1st corner.
No pole sitter in SIngapore is going to allow the drivers behind to get ahead of them on T1. The Red Buill was a fast car on that weekend, and Vettel needed to win the race to stay in the championship race and for that he needed to secure P1 after T1 because Singapore is almost like Monaco, incredibly hard to overtake and track position is everything. Yes, Vettel started it all, but that's just natural as he is the driver in front and the pole sitter. Vettel had no way of knowing Kimi was going to have that ridiculous start (the only time Kimi that year had a great start).
At the end of the day you can say, that it was a racing incident. It was a really unfortunate situation. Vettel was the one who started it, but the thing is that he wasn't able to see Kimi. So it was not a move with the purpose of sandwiching Verstappen.
Nah Vettel is an imbecile. Zero situational awareness. He turned in on Max and forced him left and took out Kimi also. Vettel 100%. We should expect better from a 4 time world champion but he was washed at this point.
The car would have blown up, the pit crew would have goofed a tire change, lightning would have struck the car, a squirrel would have jumped into the cockpit, an asteroid would have crashed into the track. SOMETHING would have happened. It's McLaren-Honda, after all.
It's amazing to see how, on slippery and unpredictable conditions, Alonso always breaks the latest and turns in the latest and still gets away with it 99% of the time. He would have got away with it this time as well, if he hadn't been collected. I get the impression that he knew the risk was high (he could see there were cars out of control to his left), and still went for it because he didn't really care about finishing 7th or 8th. Which kind of sums up the guy. You have to admire him for his skill and his determination, but he can't help himself with his attitude and his big mouth. McLaren really needed to score those points, they can still make a difference in the constructors', but he preferred to go after the big result that he so desperately wants, instead of playing it safe. And yet, I would still pick him and his attitude any day of the week over some veteran who clearly is just racing for the big money... I guess I can't decide if I love or I hate the guy, can I?
I can understand why a racing incident was called on this now thanks to seeing all angles. And understand Hamilton and Vettel's response too. Thanks Liberty Media keep it up.
Here is my verdict on the accident in what has been a crazy Singapore gp. Vettel got a bad start when compared to max and max had a medicore start when compares to kimi. Sebastian seeing that max is closing on him does his trademark, micheal Schumacher esque, pit wall squeeze. At this point kimi, as he had the best start of everybody, is pretty much alongside max and is up against the edge of the track. He can only see max and is oblivious to vettle squeezing the pair of them. Max is in the middle of the track so he can see both Sebastian and kimi and knows he is about to get pincered so he tries to back off (check the telemetry) but as the rear tyres are bigger than the fronts max was screwed, the rest is history. IMO it is vettel's fault he took a big risk squeezing max and he hoped nobody was on max's inside but kimi was there. It is cause and effect if vettel did not squeeze no accident would have happened. Also, rip Alonso he could have been in second. Hamilton had a beast of a start in second gear. Now, if there aren't any more mechanical failures Lewis has won this championship. The 28 point lead covers the 14 points lewis could lose at the tracks mercedes are not strong at ie Mexico, Abu dhabi
Daniel O But the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez is a long track for Mercedes 2015: Nico Roseberg 2016: Lewis Hamilton 2017: Sebastian Vettel? Lewis Hamilton? Valtteri Bottas? Anyone else?
You know, the V6 onboards sound really good. Just saying, I really like the low pitch grumble--yes the V10s sounded amazing, but the V6 has a special sound of its own. Watch with headphones and you'll understand what I'm getting at.
Why should have he seen him??!!? Max saw him so he was supposed to avoid this collision. But no. He made it worse by turning into kimi. They aren't opposite charge magnets ffs. Vettel wouldn't have continued into max and in fact was nowhere near max but maybe he was so scared to touch a ferrari
Alonso just gets fucked every single race this year, apart from Budapest. Being 3rd and having a potential chance of scoring a good amount of points with both cars, and then out of nowhere he gets hit. It really hurts to be a Nando fan this year, like me :-(
Riccardo was the smartest during that crash. He braked thinking: "Anything can happen here, let me see how it turns out", whilst Alonso kept going & bit off more than he could chew.
guillem machacón Okay, that's enough praying to your god Fernando. He's a fantastic driver, but he broke later because his weak Honda engine pretty much allowed it. He doesn't use magic, he uses science.
VET and RAI didn't know where each other was, and VET did the typical singapore squeeze done by anyone (google any singapore race start, like 2010), VER saw VET coming and slightly move over and then maintained a straight line, while RAI never changed direction, he assumed VER would give him the space considering its a left turn, and they continued in the same direction until they contacted. Racing incident.
Kimi was way faster than Vettel and Max. Even if Max would've avoided by braking a bit, Vettel would be brushing on Kimi's wheels. It looked as if Vettel was aware that he's not gonna make it to the first corner. The blocking move was a bit too soon.
Vettel starts off in 2nd gear to avoid wheel spin due to traction loss(so-so start). Max and Kimi start of in 1st.Vettel swerved left-->Max (eyes on Vettel) shadows Vettel--> Kimi monster start trying to overtake Max while setting up for the first turn so veers right clipping his right rear tyre on Max's left front tyre-->Vettel and Max moving left Kimi moving right for setup to turn one....sandwich Max in the middle-->Max lifts after contact from Kimi...Mayhem/Chaos/game over man!!! game over!
It was a racing incident, and if anyone is at fault, it would be Vettel. Not Kimi, not Max. It was all Sebastian Vettel. I have respect for Sebastian, but stuff happens.
Yes if there had to be someone to blame he would be the one. But I don't think its anyones fault. Quite possible Max had a faster car then Seb. You saw qualifying. So I don't blame Max for going gun ho on the start.
Though Kimi had half a meter on the left before he hits the slippery yellow paint. A skilled driver like him should be able to use that space and avoid an accident.
Well the first contact was between Max and Kimi, it took rear right wheel off of Kimi's car rendering it uncontrollable. Granted Vettel was moving across rapidly but so was pole sitter in almost every race this year. As Max took his foot down from the accelerator pedal he caught Kimi's wheel as Kimi kept accelerating, the left front wheel of Maxe's car was in the tracks of Kimi's rear right wheel, collision was imminent. Pause the video at 0:49, you can see Vettel's already in front of Max when they are about the crash. Unfortunate sequence of events, none of them is to blame.
Guys just imagine Alonso had jumped the corner... He would've been third after the crash and second after Vettel's. It would've been a podium with a McLaren... Just proving he is the best starter of F1 history once again
So Kimi was able to see Better closing in and still didn't give Verstappen more room, he probably would have known that Vettel couldn't see him and that Verstappen didn't have much room. Then on top of that Kimi had room to move to the left but he moved to the right
So for me it looks like the first hit was from Rai left backwheel and Ver right frontwheel so it´s mostly his fault I´d say. Even if it was risky from Vet to squeze Ver, Rai would have had a lot of space to the left without hiting Ver ( maybe he would have hit Vet then)
Vettel did what he’s allowed to do and pulled to the inside to defend against Max. Kimi had a great start and was on the inside of Max and Seb just couldn’t see Kimi coming on the inside. If you have ever played an F1 game, you’d know how small these mirrors are. Though Kimi had at least half a meter to spare on the inside before hitting the slippery yellow paint. With the experience Kimi has in a variety of different cars and race series he should be able to use that half a meter. Seb was the one to cause it, Kimi was the one who could’ve avoided it. Max and Nando were just part of the chain reaction.
If you Look at kimis onboard 3 Times or more you See that 1. Kimi Had enogh room on the left Hand side and 2. He turned just a bist to the right what caused the collision... He could have waited at least maybe 5 more tenths before turning in to the right... My Point of view 😐
Vettel moved across the entire track to be able to hit Verstappen that early. There's closing off the second placed guy, and then there's recklessness.
Firstly Ferrari mates strategy failed. Then later individuals strategy made a blunder. Hamilton enjoyed the scene and drove peacefully. Miracle worked out for Mercedes😂
Both ferrari's are afraid of what max can do in the wet. Keep this in mind. What happens is obvious, vettel tries to block verstappens line by going to the left. Kimi MUST go right to be able to make the corner (normaly when side by side vertappen could move right to allow space). Vettel could not have seen kimi and therefore thought it would be wise to block verstappen. Kimi never had a choice other than goin right. Because he wouldn't be able to make the turn from that line
My opinion: verstappen didn't make any mistakes. Raikonnen was going a little bit close around verstappen. And vettel could not now that Raikonnen was on the side of verstappen. So i think it was a race incident.
I've seen this footage about 50 times today. Everyone's saying RAI is keeping a straight line, but he isn't. He has a great start going in 1st gear as long as possible, then gets a kick from the engine when engaging 2nd gear. He corrects that. Next, from the moment he engages 3rd gear onwards, he is steering to the right, engages 4th, keeps moving to the right and then boom, he off-screen engages VER's front left wheel with his own right rear wheel. Why does RAI keep steering to the right while VER has made a clearly visible defensive move to the left. Because, IMHO, RAI is not contemplating VER's position at all when he gets alongside the Red Bull, but has set his mind already, only a little too soon, to leading team mate VET out of the approaching T1. RAI is not racing a straight line, he's moving to the right over quite a distance. It's ever so slight, it's just 2 or 3 degrees, but it's there from 3rd gear until collision when RAI is in 4th gear. VER's defense to the left doesn't seem to appear on RAI's scope that much, he seems to be having VET on his mind exclusively.
I'm a vettel fan but I'm pretty sure Kimi and sebs plan was to cut off max at the start to get a 1, 2 race. Pretty ridiculous that they had to screw up Max's race just because they were so incompetent as to not execute a simple plan.
Lewis 41 Don't forget that Kimi was pretty much in his blindspot, and Seb also had a slow start, so he had to defend from Max in order to keep that lead. But in the end, it was Seb that lost the most. I say it was Maldonado's fault (wow, such a funny and original joke lol xD).
Vettel: Tried to close off Max, maybe too aggressive, but he wouldn't know Kimi was where he was. Raikkonen: Fantastic start and no option but to be where he was. Verstappen: Had no where to go but shouldn't have turned toward Kimi. With the three of them that close even if Verstappen (who can see red to both sides) didn't hit Kimi when he did, something happening in turn 1 was likely. Fernando Alonso: Meaningfully 3rd for about 1/2 a second, one of the best results of the last 3 seasons!
This is how i see it: -Max didn't see kimi, he was focused to get ahead of Vettel. -Vettel as a race leader, is obviously going to the left to take the racing line, so he could protect the lead. -Kimi just had a really nice start compared to both of them, he decided to get that left gap. -Max, was going to the left to avoid crashing in to Vettel, but once he noticed Kimi, he took a bit of a right, (You can clearly see Max's steering wheel movement). -Max was late at that point. he couldnt do nothing about it. Kimi shouldn't have done that overtake, knowing Vettel that in all races that he get's pole, allways follows the racing line. Bad call from both ferrari's, we cant blame anyone really, only Kimi for going too fast i guess. And talking about Hamilton, yes he had luck. not going to say he is a bad driver, because he isn't, and this comes from a Ferrari enthusiast. With a bad car for Singapore, still pulls a win (Hat off to him). Ricciardo just had problems with the car as far as i know. So i dont understand the "fanboy" comments of "Penalty for that or the other one" imo, no one at blame here. Vettel still has a chance to get the DC, still 6 races to go, everything can happen in racing.
Otherwise ok, but he was half of the track width left from the racing line, so he wasn't trying to follow the racing line. Ricciardo and Hamilton are on going on the racing line when the collision happens. Just overly aggressive by Vettel and it did probably end his hopes on getting the WDC.
@Dylan Mendes He shouldnt in this scenario. yes. Himself knowing where Vettel was on the race, also knowing he would do anything to protect his place, and how much he needed it, and going for a tight gap afterwards? Think about it. It would definitely be avoidable. Let's be reallistic here: he is one of the most experienced drivers on the grid. Sure that he isnt the 1st driver for the team, and why would he jeorpadise his team mate's chances of winning something that is also of the team's interests? Doing this for what? He is on a last breath for his career imo. he doesn't have to show he is the best out there. Only needs to show how wise he is on track with all of his experience.
Everybody's saying "It's Vettel's fault". And in a sence, they're right. But I agree with you 100%. Whe you look at it at Vettel's angle, there's no way he saw Kimi coming.
It's easy right now to say "he should have done that" but when in his mind it was "if I don't win here the title is gone" then you can understand why his first reaction after a bad start was to immediately take the inside. It was an extremely unfortunate chain of events that none of the drivers could have predicted in time.
So he still he ran into Max, it is not like if Raikonen wasn't there Max would have let Vettel pass that easily, still a stupid action of Vettel again in my opinion.
actually he already started to peek left when he started 1:19 he should have seen it and should have expected kimi went to the inside because he should have disappeared from his mirrors
every time I watch this I am in disbelief that this happened. Its like the chief for ferrari was like ok guys we should be in good shape as long as we dont wreck each other... lol
It was literally gutting to see Alonso make such a great dive on the outside only to see him get hit. Honestly I'm more upset he didn't get a chance to finally have a good race than I am about the initial incident.
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Starting an online match in F1 2017 be like...
They would've at least got to turn 1 first in the game
Turbo Wheeler/ターボウィーラー nah there's always someone that spins on the start or just flat out rams you off the track as soon as you get going lol
The only times i've gotten rammed at the start was when someone wouldn't go in the slot in front of me or even ghost.
Lol!
Sooooo truee... Especially in tracks like sg and monaco
Kimis start was actually ridiculously well.
Dani S. max start was very bad... that made kimi look he start so well.
Shape Reinhardt Max's was better than Vettel's, so Kimi got a massively better start than Vettel's too
Max's start wasn't bad at all, it was quite good compared to the whole field.
Vettel came off worse than Verstappen. Ricciardo was the slowest of all and Kimi's was just perfect, probably the best start of all on the grid which shows us that there's still fire in him but he's so unlucky :(
The White Leopard did you see alonso start in singapore 2010? I think same vettel this year. But why didn't crash?
Yeah it's same but there was no 3rd car alongside them in 2010 so everything was fine
Such a shame that Alonso was involved, he had such a good qualifying (for McLaren)
Tiggoz - and such a good start too.... :[
It hurts me everytime when i see the start
He was in the podium one second too
"Objects in mirror are closer than they appear"
unblinded objects in mirror are losing
kek
Rip championship battle. I'm really fucking pissed about this crash.
I will never understand how there are people that blame Max for this.
In my opinion it is a racing incident. Vettel perhaps squeezed too much, but I honestly think that he didn't see where Kimi was. Max had nowhere to go, and slamming on the brakes is as risky as holding a line.
Unfortunate for all involved =(, including us fans.
After brazil 2019, i can safely say that yes, vettel has a tendency to squeeze other drivers when he is desperate or loses his cool....
I think they must be stop for racing in a narrow circuit
-sorry fo bad english
man, unintentionally is also wrong, but in my view it was totally intentional, so much so that he squeezed clearly thinking that the verstappen was going to slow down, which was not the case.
It was totally Vettel's mistake and a bad one. You cannot say that he did not see Kimi. He driver to the left and not even try tp leave room there. Verstappen and Kimi were already next to him but he did not care/watch and a driver needs to make sure if someone is there. That is most likely Vettel's worst mistake by taking out 3 cars but if I remember right, he did not get any penalty. If someone did that this years (2023), grid penalty 100% at least and maybe something else.
@@SavikujaTeroVerstappen is behind Kimi, turns towards Kimi and hits Kimi. And then the Rest happened. 100% Verstappens fault
Alonso was going right into P3... another unlucky day unfortunately, for a lot of drivers.
I don't really follow Palmer, but happy he got a good result.
I say this because he was ok but it was kind of cool when Max was on the radio and he got hit again, and you could hear him grunt.
Jraybay yes exactly😂😂
" Oh I got damage I got daMAAge uuhhrgl!!..."
LazyRock xD Accurate
Jraybay Bro whats up? :)
Sounded a bit painful
Another amazing start from the best driver! ALONSO
The sound of Hulkenberg´s engine is broken.
Diego J. It pisses me off
Diego J. It's called short shifting but yea I was quite pissed when his car broke down and when Renault didn't pit him a lap earlier
Diego J. He deserves much more than the guy with most races without a podium
Boston 00 he could have had a podium Brazil 2012
Its not short shifting lol the video audio is out of sync with the picture.
Ricciardo had the best view of the whole thing and his was the one view we never saw.
Alonso... Poor Alonso
Clearly Maldonado's fault
hahahah lol indeed
Loll
I can just imagine Hamilton shouting YES YES YES! in his cockpit. 😂😂
Alonso got karma for being P4 in a McLaren Honda
ColloJunior HAHAHA
Thx
ColloJunior hehehehe
Could have been p3
I am Ferrari fan, but how can they blame Max for this is beyond me >.
Because they are blind.
Vettel all the way!
The best start of Kimi...I felt so bad for him....he didn't deserve that
Because Verstappen was behind Kimi, turned the steering towards Kimi and crashed into Kimi. Suddenly he takes Vettel and Alonso out too. Who else could be to blame beside Verstappen?
@@MaximEmer Prescription glasses are cheap these days, contact lenses are an option too. Maybe you should tell us what Max was supposed to do exactly, hold station and hit Vettle who was coming over at an unacceptable angle ...
Maldanado must be proud
Proud and jealous at the same time.
what is going on with Maldonaldo being involved?
Kimi's start would have been great if Seb had seen him coming.
Seb's move would have been legit if Kimi wasn't already alongside Max.
Max just found himself between the Ferraris' tires before he could react.
Even though none of them acted wrong in any way, I still think Vettel's aggressive way to defend his position is the source of the crash. There's nothing Kimi and Max could have done to avoid this. It just wouldn't have happened if Seb kept his line and conceeded his position to Max, and afterwards to Kimi, since he would have got the advantage on both Seb and Max in the 1st corner.
No pole sitter in SIngapore is going to allow the drivers behind to get ahead of them on T1. The Red Buill was a fast car on that weekend, and Vettel needed to win the race to stay in the championship race and for that he needed to secure P1 after T1 because Singapore is almost like Monaco, incredibly hard to overtake and track position is everything.
Yes, Vettel started it all, but that's just natural as he is the driver in front and the pole sitter. Vettel had no way of knowing Kimi was going to have that ridiculous start (the only time Kimi that year had a great start).
At the end of the day you can say, that it was a racing incident. It was a really unfortunate situation. Vettel was the one who started it, but the thing is that he wasn't able to see Kimi. So it was not a move with the purpose of sandwiching Verstappen.
Nah Vettel is an imbecile. Zero situational awareness. He turned in on Max and forced him left and took out Kimi also. Vettel 100%. We should expect better from a 4 time world champion but he was washed at this point.
Thanks for the original sounds! Love RAW!
Alonso always with his bad luck, what exit !!!
I'm really sorry for Fernando 🙁 he would be on P3 without the crash 😢
Lol.....no chance.
No, not at all. He started on wets, literally the worst strategy. Bottas and ricciardo would have ended probably in the same place
The car would have blown up, the pit crew would have goofed a tire change, lightning would have struck the car, a squirrel would have jumped into the cockpit, an asteroid would have crashed into the track. SOMETHING would have happened. It's McLaren-Honda, after all.
It's amazing to see how, on slippery and unpredictable conditions, Alonso always breaks the latest and turns in the latest and still gets away with it 99% of the time. He would have got away with it this time as well, if he hadn't been collected. I get the impression that he knew the risk was high (he could see there were cars out of control to his left), and still went for it because he didn't really care about finishing 7th or 8th.
Which kind of sums up the guy. You have to admire him for his skill and his determination, but he can't help himself with his attitude and his big mouth. McLaren really needed to score those points, they can still make a difference in the constructors', but he preferred to go after the big result that he so desperately wants, instead of playing it safe. And yet, I would still pick him and his attitude any day of the week over some veteran who clearly is just racing for the big money...
I guess I can't decide if I love or I hate the guy, can I?
Verstappen even tried to brake when he Noticed it would end badly: look at his revs and listen to the engine! Sadly it was too late :/
0:23 Alonso was 3rd.
0:24 Alonso was out xD
What a bad luck he has. I hope he could show one more time why he is a legend
I can understand why a racing incident was called on this now thanks to seeing all angles. And understand Hamilton and Vettel's response too.
Thanks Liberty Media keep it up.
Here is my verdict on the accident in what has been a crazy Singapore gp.
Vettel got a bad start when compared to max and max had a medicore start when compares to kimi.
Sebastian seeing that max is closing on him does his trademark, micheal Schumacher esque, pit wall squeeze.
At this point kimi, as he had the best start of everybody, is pretty much alongside max and is up against the edge of the track. He can only see max and is oblivious to vettle squeezing the pair of them.
Max is in the middle of the track so he can see both Sebastian and kimi and knows he is about to get pincered so he tries to back off (check the telemetry) but as the rear tyres are bigger than the fronts max was screwed, the rest is history.
IMO it is vettel's fault he took a big risk squeezing max and he hoped nobody was on max's inside but kimi was there. It is cause and effect if vettel did not squeeze no accident would have happened.
Also, rip Alonso he could have been in second. Hamilton had a beast of a start in second gear. Now, if there aren't any more mechanical failures Lewis has won this championship. The 28 point lead covers the 14 points lewis could lose at the tracks mercedes are not strong at ie Mexico, Abu dhabi
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TheChrono12 nope
Daniel O What about Suzuka? Isn't that more of a track where it's going to be a full on battle between the two teams?
perfect assessment. logic prevails amongst these emotional plebeian imbeciles.
Daniel O But the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez is a long track for Mercedes
2015: Nico Roseberg
2016: Lewis Hamilton
2017: Sebastian Vettel? Lewis Hamilton? Valtteri Bottas? Anyone else?
You know, the V6 onboards sound really good. Just saying, I really like the low pitch grumble--yes the V10s sounded amazing, but the V6 has a special sound of its own. Watch with headphones and you'll understand what I'm getting at.
Driver of the day: Jolyon palmer.
Agreed, I voted him.
i voted for him haha, screw those ham dicksuckers
voted for him too xD
Same xD ! He deserves it.
Naah, Carlos Sainz
Thank God they bought the f1. Such cool videos and stuff on this channel.
Vettel clearly wanted to block verstappen
Fazril Nordin its a normal move
sure he wanted to he wanted to hold his position but didnt saw kimi next to max
Why should have he seen him??!!? Max saw him so he was supposed to avoid this collision. But no. He made it worse by turning into kimi. They aren't opposite charge magnets ffs. Vettel wouldn't have continued into max and in fact was nowhere near max but maybe he was so scared to touch a ferrari
Car Guy you sir, are now declared braindead.
"Normal move" *takes out 4 drivers including himself and his teammate*
Alonsos Fault!
Dave Gaming HONESTLY it was Verstappens fault!
Clearly my fault!
BWOAH! Clearly Bottas Fault!
dave auch hier? :P
Ganz Klar Nelson Piquet Jr.
ready for singapore 2023 🤙
Clearly Palmers fault
Rainer W_aus_E For sure, what the hell is that man doing with his life?
Rainer W_aus_E gedrollt wird net, wer drollt fliegt etzala
Achievement unlocked: take part in a crash involving 3 world champions before the first turn
driver of the day: Alonso for that complete 360 turn, gotta say thats a full 10/10
Imagine just driving across the interstate over the race and seeing that
Alonso just gets fucked every single race this year, apart from Budapest. Being 3rd and having a potential chance of scoring a good amount of points with both cars, and then out of nowhere he gets hit. It really hurts to be a Nando fan this year, like me :-(
Yes, he should have jumped the corner to avoid that, but I'm sure he didn´t see that coming :(
єzαу ikr 😢
Sadly he was in the right place at the wrong time, if only he backed off a tad from the corner he'd have made it through
As a verstappen fan i know the feeling. I also like alonso tho
Max could've won the race
Riccardo was the smartest during that crash. He braked thinking: "Anything can happen here, let me see how it turns out", whilst Alonso kept going & bit off more than he could chew.
amazing fernando he is obviously the best... he broke very late when everyone was breaking.
MAGIC ALONSO
guillem machacón Okay, that's enough praying to your god Fernando. He's a fantastic driver, but he broke later because his weak Honda engine pretty much allowed it. He doesn't use magic, he uses science.
Brilliant content, so glad Liberty Media have taken over. When this happened I nearly put my head through the ceiling.
Honestly bowling bal of the day: Vettel.
Awesome job liberty media for give us all the info as posibol from this important accident :D
VET and RAI didn't know where each other was, and VET did the typical singapore squeeze done by anyone (google any singapore race start, like 2010), VER saw VET coming and slightly move over and then maintained a straight line, while RAI never changed direction, he assumed VER would give him the space considering its a left turn, and they continued in the same direction until they contacted. Racing incident.
Really good Job Sebastian...
RIP Vettel 2017
Kierz maybe RIP championship chances for win, hope he will be ok)
+Kierz Bro I am so sad bro, I'm italian and I'm a Vettel fan... Why the hell did Verstapped try to literally stop Kimi?
Kierz hi can win hi is the best and its 6 races to go
That wasn't Verstappen's fault, Vettel forced him to go left and he had no choice but to hit Kimi
Exactly .. and RIP Ferrari because they just signed that mental case for 3 more years.
Kimi was way faster than Vettel and Max. Even if Max would've avoided by braking a bit, Vettel would be brushing on Kimi's wheels. It looked as if Vettel was aware that he's not gonna make it to the first corner. The blocking move was a bit too soon.
Do best team radios
At last - a decent video of this crash that doesn't feature David Crofts annoying screaming. Thank you
Ricciardo's onboard would be the best one but thank you anyway! ;)
No, he was far right side, nothing of the crash to see there.
He was the first to avoid the crash in t1. And also I'd like to see Hamilton and Alonso passing him on the right.
Vettel starts off in 2nd gear to avoid wheel spin due to traction loss(so-so start). Max and Kimi start of in 1st.Vettel swerved left-->Max (eyes on Vettel) shadows Vettel--> Kimi monster start trying to overtake Max while setting up for the first turn so veers right clipping his right rear tyre on Max's left front tyre-->Vettel and Max moving left Kimi moving right for setup to turn one....sandwich Max in the middle-->Max lifts after contact from Kimi...Mayhem/Chaos/game over man!!! game over!
It was a racing incident, and if anyone is at fault, it would be Vettel. Not Kimi, not Max. It was all Sebastian Vettel. I have respect for Sebastian, but stuff happens.
Yes if there had to be someone to blame he would be the one. But I don't think its anyones fault. Quite possible Max had a faster car then Seb. You saw qualifying. So I don't blame Max for going gun ho on the start.
Buck Rogers Yeah for sure. Just a bad racing incident.
Though Kimi had half a meter on the left before he hits the slippery yellow paint. A skilled driver like him should be able to use that space and avoid an accident.
Well the first contact was between Max and Kimi, it took rear right wheel off of Kimi's car rendering it uncontrollable. Granted Vettel was moving across rapidly but so was pole sitter in almost every race this year. As Max took his foot down from the accelerator pedal he caught Kimi's wheel as Kimi kept accelerating, the left front wheel of Maxe's car was in the tracks of Kimi's rear right wheel, collision was imminent. Pause the video at 0:49, you can see Vettel's already in front of Max when they are about the crash. Unfortunate sequence of events, none of them is to blame.
Guys just imagine Alonso had jumped the corner... He would've been third after the crash and second after Vettel's. It would've been a podium with a McLaren...
Just proving he is the best starter of F1 history once again
So Kimi was able to see Better closing in and still didn't give Verstappen more room, he probably would have known that Vettel couldn't see him and that Verstappen didn't have much room. Then on top of that Kimi had room to move to the left but he moved to the right
So for me it looks like the first hit was from Rai left backwheel and Ver right frontwheel so it´s mostly his fault I´d say. Even if it was risky from Vet to squeze Ver, Rai would have had a lot of space to the left without hiting Ver ( maybe he would have hit Vet then)
are you blind or something?
Crazy, from every angle it looked like Kimi's fault to me until I saw his onboard and it's clear that Vettel squeezed Max
That was racing incident. But i think it was ferraris fault. VER had nowhere to go
And VET didn't know that so it wasn't his fault either.
Andrea Rojas but he's the one who caused the entire incident, even if it wasn't his fault (according to you)
No Vettel caused it. Shut up your ass.
Vettel did what he’s allowed to do and pulled to the inside to defend against Max. Kimi had a great start and was on the inside of Max and Seb just couldn’t see Kimi coming on the inside. If you have ever played an F1 game, you’d know how small these mirrors are. Though Kimi had at least half a meter to spare on the inside before hitting the slippery yellow paint. With the experience Kimi has in a variety of different cars and race series he should be able to use that half a meter. Seb was the one to cause it, Kimi was the one who could’ve avoided it. Max and Nando were just part of the chain reaction.
yeah he has a disability about avoiding collision(VER).
How on earth could Ferrari blame max for this incident on twitter?
i think raikonen should not have turned right even tho it was just a small move
IMO Kimi accelerated too hard for a good start, and then got a slide....booom.
I think it is amusing how kimi is still try to steer the car when the front wheels are not doing anything 1:15 onwards
If you Look at kimis onboard 3 Times or more you See that 1. Kimi Had enogh room on the left Hand side and 2. He turned just a bist to the right what caused the collision... He could have waited at least maybe 5 more tenths before turning in to the right... My Point of view 😐
Vettel moved across the entire track to be able to hit Verstappen that early. There's closing off the second placed guy, and then there's recklessness.
Vettel! What a fail!
Probably the savagest thing i have read
TheMisteryNoob shit made my day:D
TheMisteryNoob Somebody seems to be quite butthurt ;)
Absolutely what a huge failure! Vettel made an awful miscalculation, the stuff of nightmares!
When I am driving my car and throw it against yours and you crash I will say that is not my fault. I just learned that here in formula 1.
Firstly Ferrari mates strategy failed. Then later individuals strategy made a blunder. Hamilton enjoyed the scene and drove peacefully. Miracle worked out for Mercedes😂
Tharun J Prasad hope another merchant failure equals the ground
Uhmm... Wrong video?
wow, never been this early in an f1 video before
Ferrari blaming Max was the most outrages thing they could do
just like netherlands blaming the referee for not qualifying into the world cup
Both ferrari's are afraid of what max can do in the wet. Keep this in mind. What happens is obvious, vettel tries to block verstappens line by going to the left. Kimi MUST go right to be able to make the corner (normaly when side by side vertappen could move right to allow space). Vettel could not have seen kimi and therefore thought it would be wise to block verstappen. Kimi never had a choice other than goin right. Because he wouldn't be able to make the turn from that line
No hate, but I had a big smile on my face on the first lap, a big, big smile.
Sebastian Vettel Fan5 Touché
Am I the only one who thinks raikkonen initiated this??
Im sorry 4 Max Verstappen
Great job Seb👌
My opinion: verstappen didn't make any mistakes. Raikonnen was going a little bit close around verstappen. And vettel could not now that Raikonnen was on the side of verstappen. So i think it was a race incident.
I've seen this footage about 50 times today. Everyone's saying RAI is keeping a straight line, but he isn't. He has a great start going in 1st gear as long as possible, then gets a kick from the engine when engaging 2nd gear. He corrects that. Next, from the moment he engages 3rd gear onwards, he is steering to the right, engages 4th, keeps moving to the right and then boom, he off-screen engages VER's front left wheel with his own right rear wheel. Why does RAI keep steering to the right while VER has made a clearly visible defensive move to the left. Because, IMHO, RAI is not contemplating VER's position at all when he gets alongside the Red Bull, but has set his mind already, only a little too soon, to leading team mate VET out of the approaching T1. RAI is not racing a straight line, he's moving to the right over quite a distance. It's ever so slight, it's just 2 or 3 degrees, but it's there from 3rd gear until collision when RAI is in 4th gear. VER's defense to the left doesn't seem to appear on RAI's scope that much, he seems to be having VET on his mind exclusively.
Vettel was too aggressive, nobody should blame Versteppen
Great stuff Liberty media !
Kimi Raikkonen, in a car he likes, is the best driver in the world. I dare anyone to successfully argue against this.
That was Vettel's fault
Moron, he's in front.
@@realtrek1 wow you are stupid.
I'm a vettel fan but I'm pretty sure Kimi and sebs plan was to cut off max at the start to get a 1, 2 race. Pretty ridiculous that they had to screw up Max's race just because they were so incompetent as to not execute a simple plan.
Vettel’s fault.
The sound of the cars crashing sounds amazing.
Who's fault? I think Vettel
Lewis 41 Don't forget that Kimi was pretty much in his blindspot, and Seb also had a slow start, so he had to defend from Max in order to keep that lead. But in the end, it was Seb that lost the most.
I say it was Maldonado's fault (wow, such a funny and original joke lol xD).
Mr Kacperov So funny XD
Mr Kacperov Yeah they had no further action which is stupid in my opinion
Poor Alonso, that was a great start
Why the hell was Hulks engine sound the loudest?
Have you ever owned a renault?.....it's a french peace of crap. Noisy as fuck.
yup xD
True Nigel
Probably one of the strangest scenes in F1 history, especially considering the weight of the race itself
0:04 - that moment when Vettel lost any chance of winning the 2017 championship!
Nope, he could have won depsite the crash at Singapore, he lost the Championship because of reliability issues in the two following races!
Grosjean: Some drivers cut turn one from the inside, first, one was Perez, I think.
Whiting: Is that right checo?
Checo: ... ... ...
GJ on messing up ur chance for a championship win vettel
Kimi started on 1st gear , Vettel on 2nd gear
Vettel's fault. He moved aggressively to the left and gave Max and Kimi no room.
He didn't know that Kimi was next to Max.
Vettel: Tried to close off Max, maybe too aggressive, but he wouldn't know Kimi was where he was.
Raikkonen: Fantastic start and no option but to be where he was.
Verstappen: Had no where to go but shouldn't have turned toward Kimi.
With the three of them that close even if Verstappen (who can see red to both sides) didn't hit Kimi when he did, something happening in turn 1 was likely.
Fernando Alonso: Meaningfully 3rd for about 1/2 a second, one of the best results of the last 3 seasons!
This is how i see it:
-Max didn't see kimi, he was focused to get ahead of Vettel.
-Vettel as a race leader, is obviously going to the left to take the racing line, so he could protect the lead.
-Kimi just had a really nice start compared to both of them, he decided to get that left gap.
-Max, was going to the left to avoid crashing in to Vettel, but once he noticed Kimi, he took a bit of a right, (You can clearly see Max's steering wheel movement).
-Max was late at that point. he couldnt do nothing about it.
Kimi shouldn't have done that overtake, knowing Vettel that in all races that he get's pole, allways follows the racing line.
Bad call from both ferrari's, we cant blame anyone really, only Kimi for going too fast i guess.
And talking about Hamilton, yes he had luck. not going to say he is a bad driver, because he isn't, and this comes from a Ferrari enthusiast.
With a bad car for Singapore, still pulls a win (Hat off to him). Ricciardo just had problems with the car as far as i know.
So i dont understand the "fanboy" comments of "Penalty for that or the other one" imo, no one at blame here.
Vettel still has a chance to get the DC, still 6 races to go, everything can happen in racing.
man, your comment is like finding peace in a battle field.
Kimi shouldnt have done that overtake ??
"if you dont go for a gap that exists you're no longer a racing driver"...
Otherwise ok, but he was half of the track width left from the racing line, so he wasn't trying to follow the racing line. Ricciardo and Hamilton are on going on the racing line when the collision happens. Just overly aggressive by Vettel and it did probably end his hopes on getting the WDC.
@Dylan Mendes
He shouldnt in this scenario. yes.
Himself knowing where Vettel was on the race, also knowing he would do anything to protect his place, and how much he needed it, and going for a tight gap afterwards?
Think about it. It would definitely be avoidable.
Let's be reallistic here: he is one of the most experienced drivers on the grid.
Sure that he isnt the 1st driver for the team, and why would he jeorpadise his team mate's chances of winning something that is also of the team's interests?
Doing this for what? He is on a last breath for his career imo. he doesn't have to show he is the best out there. Only needs to show how wise he is on track with all of his experience.
TheOnlyxDesertEagle wrong, the race line is to the left so there's no need to move to the left at the start , Vettel was too aggressive blocking max
On C4f1 Commentary: "Omni-shambes at turn 1!"
Ben Edwards is a Legend :D
Kimi's fault
Guess who’s gonna be in part 1 of the driver’s press conference in Malaysia ?
It is vettel . But no one can blame him because he didn't knew Kimi was coming and was alongside max.
Everybody's saying "It's Vettel's fault". And in a sence, they're right. But I agree with you 100%. Whe you look at it at Vettel's angle, there's no way he saw Kimi coming.
It's easy right now to say "he should have done that" but when in his mind it was "if I don't win here the title is gone" then you can understand why his first reaction after a bad start was to immediately take the inside.
It was an extremely unfortunate chain of events that none of the drivers could have predicted in time.
So he still he ran into Max, it is not like if Raikonen wasn't there Max would have let Vettel pass that easily, still a stupid action of Vettel again in my opinion.
Yup ! "Racing incident", "bad luck", and all that. Move along people ! :D
actually he already started to peek left when he started 1:19 he should have seen it and should have expected kimi went to the inside because he should have disappeared from his mirrors
every time I watch this I am in disbelief that this happened. Its like the chief for ferrari was like ok guys we should be in good shape as long as we dont wreck each other... lol
V E T T E L
IS THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME HERE
It was literally gutting to see Alonso make such a great dive on the outside only to see him get hit. Honestly I'm more upset he didn't get a chance to finally have a good race than I am about the initial incident.