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Not sure of this was mentioned, but you should say that DR means Diminishing Returns and describe what it is in a sentence so new players can understand it as well. Even though this guide is aimed at veterans, if there is a “cheap” way to also make it accessible to a wider audience, you should do it.
He still didn’t explain what it actually means though. Just because he mentioned the phrase doesn’t explain the concept, so the OP’s comment is still fair criticism.
druid pounce is also in the cheap shot DR category, they're both considered "opener stuns". this means when facing/playing druids, keep in mind that pounce no longer DRs with bash and maim!
If you disarm a feral druid you're just removing a stat stick. Feral Druids do not attack with their weapons but instead use a special hand-to-hand weapon that does precisely 55 DPS modified by attack power. Weapons have a conversion from the damage on the weapon to an appropriate amount of "feral attack power" to make the DPS equivalent to other melee. Due to snapshotting all the DoT's will continue to tick as usual and the feral can still use all of its abilities - however anything applied to you during the disarm will do ~30% less damage.
Spell Reflect can reflect multiple spells. I play a destruction warlock. I cast Incinerate on them and before it finishes I get a backlash proc for an instant cast. I follow that up with Conflagrate and all 3 get reflected. Seems it counts every projectile spell before the first one hits and it drives me insane!
thats cool i didnt know absorbs denied rend procs etc. i did know that if you are a druid using natures grasp and a rogue / etc is attacking you, it will not proc roots until the shield is gone!
I remember back in the day fury wars had a bug where they would dual wield 2Hrs with titans grip and they change spec to arms and keep the 2HRs equipped specd into bladestorm and viola roflstomp kids into oblivion.
Lifebloom is reason i never liked playing resto druid. It takes so much gcds just to keep up medicore hot and you have to use it all the time otherwise other team will just dispel all your healing. It's so dumb and annoying.
Cheap Shot is now an "opening stun" same as Pounce, and instead of being its own kategory, Kidney Shot is on DR with other similar stuns now, like HoJ and Maim.
We intentionally mentioned the 4 "major" disarms in arena, since they are the most common. Some Hunter pets also have a Disarm (www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=53543/snatch) but these pets, along with Fire Mages, are very rare. So to keep things relevant, we only mentioned the major ones.
Now I’m not 100% positive but a player who is shielded cannot be critically struck unless the Crit breaks the shield. Does anyone else have info on this? I have done some testing and the absorb values have only been lining up with normal hits… Maybe I’m crazy, maybe not
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ATC is very fun to play, i do it from time to time on blackrock realm from warmane (old arena tournament server)
Chaos bolt goes through anti magic shell of death knights as well
Not sure of this was mentioned, but you should say that DR means Diminishing Returns and describe what it is in a sentence so new players can understand it as well. Even though this guide is aimed at veterans, if there is a “cheap” way to also make it accessible to a wider audience, you should do it.
he literally said ‘diminishing returns’ at 0:48 on the transition screen
Show how little you pay attention.
He still didn’t explain what it actually means though. Just because he mentioned the phrase doesn’t explain the concept, so the OP’s comment is still fair criticism.
druid pounce is also in the cheap shot DR category, they're both considered "opener stuns". this means when facing/playing druids, keep in mind that pounce no longer DRs with bash and maim!
If you disarm a feral druid you're just removing a stat stick. Feral Druids do not attack with their weapons but instead use a special hand-to-hand weapon that does precisely 55 DPS modified by attack power. Weapons have a conversion from the damage on the weapon to an appropriate amount of "feral attack power" to make the DPS equivalent to other melee. Due to snapshotting all the DoT's will continue to tick as usual and the feral can still use all of its abilities - however anything applied to you during the disarm will do ~30% less damage.
ATC is very fun to play, i do it from time to time on blackrock realm from warmane (old arena tournament server)
Forgot to explain the stoneclaw totem absorb it has some unique interactions also
Please share!
Like what?
Spell Reflect can reflect multiple spells. I play a destruction warlock. I cast Incinerate on them and before it finishes I get a backlash proc for an instant cast. I follow that up with Conflagrate and all 3 get reflected. Seems it counts every projectile spell before the first one hits and it drives me insane!
Yo, I really love your videos, BUT there is no feral guide! Can we get one for us cat lovers? :D
Did my first games in wotlk classic this week and I’m hooked. Can’t wait to Q some more!
great video, learned a lot thanks. Please make more videos of such minor details. 👌🏽
Atleast as a fire mage I can still reflect chaos bolts back at em. Happens quite often too..
thats cool i didnt know absorbs denied rend procs etc. i did know that if you are a druid using natures grasp and a rogue / etc is attacking you, it will not proc roots until the shield is gone!
Great Video! Currently there is a bug allowing Warriors to Shield Wall during Dismantle. Hope it gets fixed soon
I would love a videos on DRs
Hammer of Wrath goes through Rogue's Cloak as well. No idea why.
I guess it's not goly damage then. Must be physical
These are the kinds of interactions that make WotLK fun. Change my mind,
Would love a full wotlk DR list/video!
I remember back in the day fury wars had a bug where they would dual wield 2Hrs with titans grip and they change spec to arms and keep the 2HRs equipped specd into bladestorm and viola roflstomp kids into oblivion.
Please DR video. This video was fantastic and would really love any others you could make.
Sw:pain spellpower gets recalculated when beeing refreshed with mindflay (Talent pain & suffering)
(Does not work with VT and DP)
7:41 Lifebloom heals you for 2-3K at 3 stacks when it expires, so you DO NOT refresh it. You let it fall off deliberately.
Lifebloom is reason i never liked playing resto druid. It takes so much gcds just to keep up medicore hot and you have to use it all the time otherwise other team will just dispel all your healing. It's so dumb and annoying.
Too bad its nearly impossible to find partners on some realms... :(
Turn Undead/Evil's fear and Holy Wrath's stun doesn't hit Death Knight during Lichborne as well? Since they became an "Undead"-type unit?
Turn Evil will Fear DKs during Lichborne, despite them being "immune to Fear".
3:48 I love this :D
Have you consired to make Balance druid guide? :)
IS IT A GLITCH HOW PETS GET PLAYERS IN COMBAT ACCROSS THE WHOLE ARENA?
Great video
If a rogue dismantles a warrior who has shield wall up does he lose the buff?
Nope
I am pretty sure Paladin's judgement also cannot be parried.
Did they switch Kidney with Cheapshot to have it's own DR table?
Cheap Shot is now an "opening stun" same as Pounce, and instead of being its own kategory, Kidney Shot is on DR with other similar stuns now, like HoJ and Maim.
@@myri91 Thank you
Dont remember ever knowing this about chaos bolt even tho i had several teams in top 10 back in original wrath 😂Great info!
i like pings video dancing gnome
Yea I agree Deterrence sucks
so insane
As far as I know spellpower doesn't snapshot and scales live.
Missing fire mage disarm
We intentionally mentioned the 4 "major" disarms in arena, since they are the most common. Some Hunter pets also have a Disarm (www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=53543/snatch) but these pets, along with Fire Mages, are very rare. So to keep things relevant, we only mentioned the major ones.
Now I’m not 100% positive but a player who is shielded cannot be critically struck unless the Crit breaks the shield.
Does anyone else have info on this? I have done some testing and the absorb values have only been lining up with normal hits…
Maybe I’m crazy, maybe not
Would make sense. My lava burst never gets through a disc shield, even though it should deal more damage than the absorb
@@tobi9125 depends on your spell power, shield absorb between 5-6k
You can crit on shields, details just counts it as a hit in the breakdown, but you’ll see the «hit» is the same dmg as a crit
@tobi since you have guaranteed Crit on lava burst can you find a disc priest or mage to confirm this one way or another?
u guys spelled "pint" wrong + wotlk is sleeper zzz
you talk about teaching but dont never answer here in the coments
Fire Mage guide when? You completely forgot the fire mage disarm.
hahaha wtf
washed up devs