2:21 Progress is inherent 5:02 Black and White Worldview 6:42 Logical = Correct 8:36 Morality is Relative 10:05 "Science" and other false gods 11:52 Pain and force are the worst things possible 15:06 The world is Zero Sum 17:13 Humans are purely material 19:47 The truth doesn't exist 22:05 What is good for one is good for the rest 23:23 Human's aren't animals 25:18 Life has no meaning
I think the “truth doesn’t exist” myth was perfectly exemplified by a philosophy professor I had a few years ago who said that “no amount of philosophical skepticism about an objective external world will prevent my fist from breaking your nose.”
@@Konkov have it here... People dont finish, spend a decade or more in it, lots leave later... In itself its not the solution. It is however a good step. Trade schools need more attention too.
Yeah, we could attain peace if we just killed all the opponents of OUR peace. Well, Hell; this is a torment. I think peace is easier for the strong. We could work on that.
@@stapleman007 Musk buying Twitter is the right and principled thing to do though. The only reason a person would disagree is because they seek to continue to silence those they disagree with.
Question: Has the worry of kids going outside and possibly getting kidnapped always existed? I figured that the only reason people are more scared and concerned about it now unlike 50 years ago was because it wasn’t as reported in the media compared to today?
I think today society might blame the parents as much as the kidnapper for not being helicopter parents so they never let their children out of sight for fear of the Karens around them.
It's a cultural realignment, 100 years ago if your neighbors kid, or someone's kid in your town disappeared then you'd hear about it and you'd go out to help look for the little fucker. Now that's someone else's problem and you don't want to get a problem like that, as well as that the less children ppl have the more they will value the few that they have even if it's an irrational fear.
@@januarysson5633 There was in instance in my neighbourhood about a year ago where a woman received a visit from Child and Family Services because...drum roll...her children were unsupervised while playing outside *in her fenced back yard*. Parents are expected to be within arms reach of their children 24/7 until those chidren turn 18, at which point they're criticized for not being independent enough.
it's a combination of declining trust in communities, and declining mental health overall within the society, combined with news outlets have economic incentive to over-report tragedies.
#3 logical = correct. This reminds me of the quote attributed to Yogi Bera, “In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are different’.
Theory is created by combined practice. Theory and Practice are parts of the same cycle. Theory is practice. And practice is theory, but applied in new context.
but he took the wrong route on that, its not because logical isnt always correct from our point of wiew we shouldnt strive for true logic, its the, because logic isnt always true lets just rely on tradition, religion and cultural norms, aka humans are shit and we need a strict system to keep them from being stupid logic cant be perfected and improved, wich pretty much throws all the scientific progress and the shift towards science most of the world has had culturally in the later years
too few observations were made to support these "wrong logic" arguments. it's more about mistakes than logic being wrong. to be too sure of bald conclusions may be what he was trying to call wrong but not the logic itself.
Something can follow a certain logic, but still lead to irrational conclusions (based on erroneous axioms, for example). Logic can lead to truth, as a compass can lead to a destination, but both require knowledge of their proper use, as well as other tools
It's like Rite and the moment when guy was happy seeing Devil because it was his proof for existence of God. Wasn't it called symmetrism ? Duality is a really confusing concept. But in reality existence of one bad outcome or choice doesn't prove other outcome to be not as bad or worse... Only the very fact of evaluating it as bad wrong suboptimal brings you solace in understanding that you notice error and so can imagine something right better or a solution. That is alone enough for action in good direction but for some not enough especially if they have habit in repeating mistakes. Eventually your impact is limited, but impacting yourself consciously is already a great win, not something obvious at all
@@ebrelus7687 It's the old argument for why the devil (and by extension demons, vampires, general purpose Eee-vile Beings) don't manifest in the modern world directly: because if they did, sensible people would immediately reach for God's protection. The extension to this is that the Age of Miracles is over, or mostly over, because if God intervened constantly, we'd all see it and we wouldn't have free will, any more than we do about believing in electricity or gravity. (Or, I suppose, that only stupid people who cannot be swayed by evidence would have free will...)
@@danielromerosol4158 The God of Abraham, the one that reigns in heaven, if yours is not him then you are worshipping a Devil, and you will be forced to believe in the one true Lord.
As someone with chronic depression, your addressing of some of these world illusions actually has helped me think through some stuff and get a bit more motivated. Don't ask me why this is the case. I don't know. Just thank you :)
2020 did a number on my mental health, although I've always been struggling. This channel was a real bright spot for me in gaining context and keeping stable.
I was raised by 2 engineers and as a result I understand pretty well how much planning and work goes into the artificial world around us. I design water and waste water infrastructure. So many of my friends and people around me have a very strange idea of what "normal" is. I often use my job as an analogy as to how artificial our world really is. You see, the sewage doesn't just leave your house. There are teams of people involved in making sure that very simple thing we all take for granted and do every day works. I tell people that the natural human condition is more like standing ankle deep in shit, and if it wasn't for our technology and society that's probably where we'd all be standing. Basically everything we think is normal is something someone created and we have to work every day to keep up that level of infrastructure. So go out there and do your part to make life better, because who wants to be standing in shit.
Amazing comparison. The problem is shit like social media: Twitch thots, Only Fans, Twitter, IG, etc. These cesspools stifle any chance of innovation. It’s a tunnel with no light at the end of it.
@@miguelgonzalez6495 Everything you mentioned goes under the entertainment sector. They have their place in society. You can't cancel movies by stating that it has no impact on the REAL world because entertainment can serve as a source of inspiration that can drive change in the real world.
@Dani Sin the boring part comes from most of us not having faced major adversities. And why is it called "late stage" capitalism? As far as I know, the current era of capitalism/democratic system hasn't been implemented in history ever before. Are you predicting that it's gonna come to an end soon, which is why you're calling it "late stage"?
What? I've never even heard most of his criticisms. The city is fine, the fact that they thought the builder's population would leave after the construction is true, but otherwise the city is like any other. We even have some upsides compared to other state capitals, like nice arborization and not having the skyline dominated by skyscrappers.
@@brxnv_ sim, mas nunca vi ninguém falar que Brasília essas coisas online também. Além disso, muitos dos pontos fracos de Brasília são porque a cidade é nova basicamente, não pelo jeito que ela foi planejada. Quem olha pra Brasília e pensa "hum, queria ter mais dificuldade pra achar um endereço"? E "opressiva"? A cidade não é nada diferente das outras cidades fora do plano piloto, e dentro ela é muito mais organizada. "Chata" eu até entendo de onde vem, porque no começo era pior. Mas agora tem mais comercio, bar, essas paradas. E isso era, como disse, porque a cidade era nova. Eu não concordo com o ponto que ele fez, que a cidade "falhou" porque não levaram em conta a natureza humana. O design da cidade não trás nenhum dos problemas que ele falou, e a maior falha foi não levarem em conta que a população obreira não ia ir embora depois da construção na hora que planejaram.
My grandma and mother often told me "Force/Violence is not a solution", while becoming aggressive when I disagreed with them. "You tell me Violence is not the solution, whilst you use force to instill that value into me."
Violence isn't a solution most times, but when it is the solution you need to be prepared to use it effectively. Passivism is fine 99% of the time, but too often we take it to the extreme and have no preparations when violence is necessary. I am a mostly passive dude, but I have trained some martial arts and keep my body in relatively good shape for the times when violence is necessary. Roosevelt said it best, walk softly and carry a big stick. Too much of the west is walking softly and left their stick at home.
You somehow twenty seconds ago made me completely rethink every notion of independent thought in the last past 39 years. And I want to tell you thank you. And that I appreciate you. I'm a stubborn person but whatever you just did or in the way you just stated it your message worked. Excellent upload and it really is people like you who inspire me to be that person. A light on the world. I just truly appreciate your work and your research
@@BBP-OMO Turkey seems to be in a good position for expansion, but their people seem to not like their government. Which is an expansionist, highly Islamic one. So I don't know what to think of it.
As a brazilian, what you said about Brasilia (our capital) makes a lot of sense to me. Moving our capital from Rio to Brasilia was one of the worst decisions in our country`s history. Not only is this city very ugly in general with its modernistic style but it gave the political class a shield from the people`s scrutiny since the capital is so damn far away from the big centers. Really good video btw
@@melvinklark4088 if they claim something is objectively true it doesn’t matter anyway. Because the other option is subjective truth. Either claim “there is no objective truth” or “there is only subjective truth” are objective truth claims and are self refuting.
@@clemenx Said the Jedi who thought the Sith were objectively evil - an absolutist position regarding good and evil. 🤔😆 In truth, Obi-Wan is one of my favorites characters; I just like to pick on him for that statement.
The “humans aren’t animals” one hit me the hardest. Put into perspective how much of our society and culture might not be taking our basic needs into account
But its also funny because Christians would want to reject the idea that humans are merely animals. And since he's Christian wouldn't it be heretical to think that?
Humans right now try to be least human possible... that's the biggest problem. human being evolved animal was never a problem. the problem is a blind journey from that optimal natural point & defying own nature
@@Snoop_Dugg Nobody says humans are mere animals. Christians don't reject animal nature, they admit it saying to not let animal nature drive you as you are more than animal. Modern trend is worse it's denying own human roots intirely and reconstructing idea of human artificially totally cutting of from nature and pretending you can function away from environment that made you in the first place and that you can construct better environment. Despite in most of civilization doing quite opposite XD That's a total denial of own humanity including all natural human body functions what started with human innovations and leaving species proper human diet. If you could start eating crap and still living and even grow in nr faster than you can put crap into head also and expect not harming yourself and increase overall brain capacity... When you start treating a mistake as a success suddenly you open gates to inviting unlimited wave of mistakes fulling yourself miracles are coming...
@@Snoop_Dugg It is all just semantics, in the end Christians actually believe that humans have such a nature but do not call it animalistic rather "carnal desires" that need to be fought against. the Protestant (Puritans especially) did have a very negative view on humanity as a whole but nonetheless were filled with purpose.
@@so_cold7776 if you already discussion on the internet you have what is needed to be social. Because as was say in the video humans have they animal side and most social conversation is about useless topics just to get talking to someone. Just remember this 3 rules: what is good to do as a friend is what is expected of a good allie of war. If you let people know that you trust then (even if you dont) they will be more easily to trust you. Think from they point of view and see the situation not only from your perspective but from the wide context
@@so_cold7776 I am introvert, don't posses any attractive trait,shy. But give me a topic I like, say history, philosophy, international relations, science, Psychology,and I will talk hours with someone, irrespective of their gender. But yeah,the only thing i would require is that person should be fully invested and interested and passionate about those topics too! Otherwise I would cringe and feel uncomfortable
The “progress is natural” idea I think is the most dangerous. A lot of people actually seem to think due to our technological advancement and social “progress” (all things labeled as “social progress” will just be triumphs for the most popular ideology 9 times out of 10) we will continue to soar towards the heavens and reach that “end of history” point.
To reach the end of history point we will have to reach and see the truth abt everything and this will never happen because we can not reach this stage with our limited brains but we will keep getting closer and closer and anyone who tries to stop this process will very soon be a part of history and not the present or future
The older I get the more I realize this has all happened before, more or less. Sad that people know more about the world of Westeros or Middle-Earth than their own. Honestly, I think the elites prefer it that way.
The problem isn't that people know those fictional worlds better. The problem is most don't realize that fiction was made using human logic and emotion, the same things we use to make our cultures and systems. They are not 1:1 comparable, but to say the patterns in one cannot be found in the other is just willful ignorance. Logic of actions stays the same, while the laws of the worlds in fiction change. There's always similar archetype stories: a family fight, redemption, rise to power...to name a few. Those appear in real life too, although with much more complexity, which makes seeing them harder. Patterns in fiction are just patterns from reality, with all the mundane fluff removed, or divergence in development. If reality was a programming language, patterns would be functions, and history would be those functions with variables loaded. Thar's why it acts in the same way even though every variable can be different, cause it's the same pattern, same function. We humans fucked up by focusing on what the function spits out, rather than how the function itself works.
After even just a cursory study of History and Anthropology I saw that as well; the Roaring 20's and the 2010's produced the same complaints of debauchery and deviance, and the 2020's is looking to be a similar economic black hole similar to the 1930's. The only difference between then and now is that we have shinier things (and in every society that causes people to become more arrogant, saying "We won't make the mistake they made because we have shinier things!").
As a young teenager, I briefly felt very nihilist, but it didn't take long for me to realize that if nothing matters, then that includes the fact that nothing matters. Which is kind of how I frame my philosophy.
@@thelordz33 Exactly!vAnd when you reach that conclusion, the only natural feeling one should get is either dread or relief. I myself felt relief which was followed by freedom. IN a universe which there is no inherit meaning, you can make one of your choosing, so just live your most fullfilling life lad!
I don t get how the lac of social gathering places effect so many, as I live in a small country with basically no gathering spaces people just use caffes or a simple benches
Goiania or Palmas are close and much better cities. The national capital is just a front for a criminal system that has ruled this country since the fall of the Empire.
@@viniciusdomenighi6439 Goiania, Palmas and Belo Horizonte were also planned cities, but because they had a very organic growth and development, they became much more socially friendly cities to live in.
"The belief that the world has no meaning, in turn, is relative and so I can ignore it." Spot on. I think you're right - the problem here is cynical laziness. Best video yet. Keep up the good work!
We create our own meaning. This is existentialism: the belief that despite the world having no inherent purpose, it is our responsibility to give our originally purposeless lives meaning. The world having no meaning isn’t an excuse for laziness, it’s by far the most probable conclusion. Laziness is laziness. We have no inherent purpose, but that isn’t an excuse for not living life to the fullest. Also, this sort of logical argument goes against his third proposition. We know with reason that life has no purpose. Reality is not logic. Just because you can create a logical paradox, this doesn’t make the argument any less valid- reasonably, empirically, or probabilistically.
I think without a tight family structure (like in US and maybe other parts of developed world) people will op out from working a meaningless job if what they have to sustain themselves to the end or have enough government support to do it which is what is happening post COVID among the more elderly work force.
I have 80yrs on Earth. 20yrs in schooling and 20yrs of being old. I have less than, 40yrs to create meaning for myself. Living life to my fullest is meaning enough.
@@johnl.7754 " if what they have to sustain themselves to the end " Is that bad somehow ? I mean, if you were in a hunter gatherer society, you better do something otherwise the tribe put you out alone in the woods to fend for yourself, good luck with that... Its amusing to think people are entitled to something in this modern society.
The problem with making big empires now is that you can't really conquer to get them without stepping on the toes of a great nuclear power. No doubt the existing ones can still collapse though - and I'm still kind of impressed the USSR somehow did so without releasing tons of nuclear weapons onto the black market
@@RaidsEpicly Or without stepping on an ally of a nuclear power. Otherwise Taiwan and Ukraine would have long since been taken by China and Russia, respectively.
@@nou3077 LMAO even as a Leftist I think that there is no doubt in that. "Marxist"-Leninists and other folks who deny this are just revising history to fit a narrative.
The whole "I believe in science" thing we've been seeing lately has been a particular sore spot for me. It's signaling just as much of a lack of understanding of what science is as the anti-scientific trends it is reacting to and, well-meaning or not, potentially just as dangerous with its uncritical approach.
I think verything that he said about that in the video is true, however the main idea that people who promote science over religion try to spread, is just that you should think by yourself and not take any belief for granted. This is very hard, so many people just say they believe in science without really thinking about what that means. What I'm trying to say is that the people he is talking about are not representative of the whole active atheist or even anti-theist community, and things they believe and try to say.
Aye but in a very different way, it's not immediately dangerous like say the anti-vaxer who spreads a virus. It's problematic in a more long term way in that it has people relying on faith without realising it.
@@eps200 Definitely, and that's the point I was implying. "I believe in science" is more likely to result in systemic problems that could eventually resolve into more material threats in the right circumstances while the results being "anti-science" generally are much more immediately material.
I don't "believe" in science, because science (as in, scientifically proven and verified models and phenomena, not as in the scientific method) doesn't need my belief to exist and it doesn't care about me believing in it. Apples will still fall from the trees even if I believe Newton to be mostly wrong.
I have the same exact thought about the other side, religion. Atheists often act like being on a higher level because they don’t believe and completely neglect the real philosophical and scientific implications religion through the ages tells us about the human mind. So much that I think of Atheists almost as another religious group completely different from my unbelieve and with all the weird fanatics
0:30 Someone who gets it. I was involved in my local punk scene and played gigs. I never wore the fashion for one reason: *_I will not be "anti-conformist" by conforming to something else._* Too many punks try so hard to be punk that they forget to be themselves.
@@jaytrain3692 Of course some of the punks actually do like the fashion and everything, but a fair bit are definitely just "donning the uniform of anti-conformity." There are small things I do that are "stereotypical punk," but I almost avoid it... Because it feels like conforming. Another big thing that I broke in the scene was my love of rave music. Most punks, or rock fans in general, just relentlessly bash it with no real criticism other than "it's not real music bro." It's gotten to the point I think of myself as a raver more, but both scenes have their snobby fucks, which makes me not want to identify with either. I liked the late 90s and early 2000s stuff more and I couldn't care less about the hyper-commercialized BS nowadays. I get a little annoyed when I mention raving and I have to listen to yuppies gush over EDC, UMF, and other overpriced events with celebrity status DJs. Raving, and party scenes by extension, should be local and about community. Fuck meeting rich yuppies from the other side of the world that I'll never talk to again. LAME. Plus, DJing and lighting has never been easier so why even give a shit about the overpriced mainstream BS??? DIY OR DIE. Pretentious rant over.
I want to know more about Whatifalthist in a gender studies course. Thats just amusing. Edit: Holy crap, over 500 likes, I think its time we take to the streets, and demand that WhatifAltHist tells us about his time in a gender studies class. That would be amazing.
@@jakepeto2496 Don't US college need credit in "social studies" for almost every degree? I'm not american but I've heard even STEM fields need to go do some of these to graduate.
As for the existence and relativeness of morality I really recommend books by Haidt. He did some wonderful research on moral intuitions. Morality is basically akin to diet. We can very easily intuit which stuff is healty/tasty and which is disgusting (and actually the same brain modules are responsible for both disgust and moral outrage), but there isn't a single "correct" diet and sometimes a "bitter disgusting pill" may turn out to be something necessary for health.
@@No-xw7mo Belief most certainly is a good indicator of intelligence. I believe that what you really meant to say was "Religiousness does not determine intelligence" in which case I would wholeheartedly agree.
@@Sednas nihilism, the social positioning of not beliving in anything, is the zenit(?, the highest point of non-believer... innue, which i also dont know
Your section on pain and death being the worst things was excellent. You hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that the reason people fear death so much is because their lives have no meaning
Arguing with Marxists has basically convinced me of everything said in this video; the denial of the primitive side of humanity, the black and white worldview being inherent to all ideologies, the fact that you can't derive moral objectivity from political theories or materialism, etc.
His arguments against Marxism in this video and his others are pretty weak. He almost always just argues "its been tried and never worked" and in this video literally says "I don't give a damn what Marx said". Shows a level of shallow reactionary thinking rather than engaging with the theories he disagrees with. No serious critic of Marxism would automatically dismiss Marx regardless of how they feel about Communism because he has an indisputably important influence on fields of study like economics, history and politics.
Ned I believe what you just did is called a no true Scotsman fallacy and it just furthers his point. Marxists are notorious for claiming to be scientific until it applies to their own ideological system. You would assume after multiple failed attempts that they would realize the reality of these policies vs their claims are clearly not lining up. But again they’ll just fall to the “no true Scotsman” fallacy and claim “not really communism/Marxism”. It’s hard to effectively scrutinize an ideology/world view that is so religious in nature because reality doesn’t matter to its adherents, much like other religions there is always a justification for what happened in order for it to fit within the boundaries of the ideology.
@@nedisahonkey calling opponents "reactionary" is a classic Marxist tactic, every communist regime has used that to discredit and silence opposition. Very much dismissive from your side. Also, he uses Marxism as an illustration, you're free to disagree with the content of the comparison. But do you personally think that Marxism is scientific? Honestly, the scientific pretentions of Marxism deserve to be dismissed out of hand. If you know anything about the history of Marxism, you know it has little to do with science and that it's a rigid ideology with a pitch black past. It's motivated more by resentment than by compassion. You have to own your past. Contemporary Marxists usually prefer to ignore it.
@@nedisahonkey I think WhatifAltist has argued with enough Marxists to know they’re all just fallacious. He doesn’t need to put much effort into disproving it because it’s always so flagrantly illogical. It’s not his fault people like you haven’t escaped your own prisons.
@@nedisahonkey I have not read the works of Marx but how is “it’s been tried and never worked” a weak argument against a theory? Don’t you try I theory and if it doesn’t work then you need a new theory?
My favorite lie is “it is different this time.” It is never different this time. It is always the same. I do agree, however, that history does not repeat. Instead, it rhymes, which is why it all sounds the same but many of us do not see it.
Indeed. If you use the same recipe and ingredients you will always bake the same cake, no matter where or when you bake it. When I hear interlectuals preach failed philosophies and use the line 'keep trying to we get it right', you know they have no concept of reality, or of the people they claim to be helping.
@@blackbaron0 Marxism is so stupid that you don't even need to try it to know it will never work. You just need to look at the humans and grasp a bit of their natural tendencies. That idea is fundamentally flawed because it doesn't take into consideration human nature. If you keep trying to implant it, then you are doing it for self-indulging purposes and you are absolutely evil, by definition.
@@monad_tcp marxism is against human nature? While Liberalism and capitalism is all about crushing the Poor to keep the wheel of profit rolling, These are the arguments eitehr liberals make or people who never ever studeid anything about Marxism, but instead come to conclusion by looking back at history, and bringing up nothing but authoritarianism of china (which is no way near to marxism, and even maosim) or USSR (which turned into a capitalist state in 1970s), take a look at your surroundings, everything is dying, Sky is not blue anymore, sun doesn't shine bright anymore, we live in an industrial era, being breeded like rats, to work, work for stupid amount of hours, south Korea just legalised 120 hours of work a week, which only gives you 6 hours of free time to travel, sleep, talk with your family and prosper, if you stop working and protest, they will replace you with a different person, like a machine, i call this the dark ages, Individualism and liberalism is just destroying our lives, we are nothing but a material, to fuel the machine of capitalism; Capitalism doesn't work either, just like utopian communism, we think it works, with the shining lights in the streets, freedoms we think we have, empty skyscrapers, humanity thrives on hope, and in my honest opinion Marxism is a solution, it is never been experimented well, socialist revolution should rise from a capitalist country, not the wastelands of China, and Feudal russia.
@@Pierre-lj4sq capitalism is the best method for advancing society, fighting poverty, and allowing for class mobility. Purported followers of Marxism have brought about more suffering, poverty, and death than any other force in history. You can know a tree by its fruit. Capitalism, like any tree, can be susceptible to disease, poison, and pests. They can corrupt the tree, cause it to not produce fruit, and even kill it. Capitalism works, but it must be tended to by a diligent and honest gardener. Unfettered capitalism runs wild like blackberry vines. It's full of pricks and though it provides delicious fruit, it will do so inefficiently and with more bloodletting than necessary.
Something i read years ago that has always stuck with me, No matter how doomed or certain an outcome may seem, remember, smarter men have been wrong about things that seemed more obvious
Its a weird one yes like I've skipped history class to read about history or watch history documentaries/videos which seems counterintuitive but I don't really enjoy school history lessons
Your note on science as a belief structure struck a chord with me. Having rotated through several religions in an attempt to find a belief structure that works for me, including scientism and atheism, I came to the conclusion that the human mind has a requirement for spiritual belief to explain things that are just outside our ability to understand. Even if there are answers within society, a single person simply can't contain the breadth of experience to rationally explain everything that happens, no matter how much they might want to do so. At the same time, it is true that a lot of these belief structures actively exploit this to indoctrinate their adherents while also guiding them. Or rather, the inherent corruption that comes with being in a position of power in an institution meant to shape people's beliefs. My conclusion essentially became that it's important to have a spiritual grounding, but the failing of most heavily structured religions is the idea that you can "give" a rigid ethical framework to someone and have them take it as-is, despite that being a subjective set of beliefs. From a cultural unity standpoint this is ultimately pragmatic, but from a mental health standpoint it can do a lot of damage. For my part, I believe it is important to provide people the tools to make those connections on their own terms. Essentially teaching as-is but not holding people to dogma and doctrine under pain of hell or what have you, as belief structures inherently require compromise to moderate differing groups within a society.
16:25 Homer Simpson has a house, two cars, three kids and a wife who can doesn't have to work and can stay home. Sure he hates his job, but Homer is making bank.
@@MasterGhostf Unfortunately, we're working like dogs, just to stay alive. The younger generations have it right: If you can't make enough to attract a wife, no matter how hard you work, and you can survive working as little as possible, hard work becomes the realm of suckers.
With the money from the job I hate, I couldn't get a "wife" for more than 2 hours per week, could not afford a single child, move out of my parent's place or get a car.
“This doesn’t take into account how weak the human brain is. There are often more variables we don’t know about, and we often don’t value the importance of variables correctly” - spot on, and relevant to every mainstream political debate today.
@@1mol831 more people getting better medical attention ? poor and middle class getting better life treatment compared to the last 5 millenia ? products becoming super cheap comapred to before thanks to industrialization ? people being able to exchange ideas for free with others from the other side of the world for free , thanks to the internet ? LMAO
@@Dan_Kanerva Yea, exchanging ideas might be fun, but at the same time ideas are being enforced. Products being super cheap is a lie, look at how the cost of land has skyrocketed. Poor and middle class getting better life treatment? Stop joking, modern day poor and middle class do not really have access to good quality medical attention without spending a fortune, and people in the past get sick less often as the food they eat is more natural and less polluted and they are able to enjoy a more active lifestyle. Overall the world is getting worse.
@@1mol831 the world is more united People are living in more comfort than ever before in history and despite the fact that the world looks shitty to us we are living in the most peaceful era of human history so far. Technology also allows us to communicate with people long distance and has done so many good things i cant even list them all
When talking about humanity's future, saying we are going to have wars, famine, plague etc - is like saying there's going to be humans in Earth in future.
@@AverageAlien the industrial revolution is "just" a technological progress that changed the human society. Which happened before multiple times. There are enough technological "revolutions", because it was more like an evolution. Even the first campfire that was used to cook meat was like a "industrial revolution" but with way slower spreading, that led to a higher survival rate, higher living standard, bigger brains... You could say that we are right now in a kind of Big Data revolution and so on.
@@donquesewilliamswilliams3497 I believe that it was he starved under a tree for weeks or something and then had a eureka moment where he realised life is just pain. I imagine the starvation helped him realise that.
@@FazeParticles Back in the 1970's, the powers that be decided to send most manufacturing overseas. The main purpose of "education" since then has been to beat down those who are creative and rebellious. Only those who obediently perform tedious, low grade clerical work get graduate.
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U It depends. Those who succeed extremely well and do good at schools also become the driving forces of society. School is a test of dependence and consistence. Some direct their energy to other projects while some do school and their projects, while some may only go to school for the sake of it. American education is very lenient, we must make the choices of where we go. For all i've seen, they bend over for the ghetto and actually rebellious in schools.
You are impressive! the depth and breadth of your knowledge, your ability to communicate it, at your age, is difficult to overstate. It’s humbling and inspiring.
I feel like this video explains in painful detail why humans need myth *and* history. Two views, simultaneously. We need history to teach us the results of insanity. Myth teaches us what sanity is.
@@sleepybraincells Sanity is seeing the world for what it is and resolving to make it better. That's what the Hero does. Myth also teaches us by counterpoint. Insanity is seeing how bad the world is and resolving to make it worse. That's the villain. Why does the villain so often reflect the hero? Because the reader is both villain and hero. That's the most absolutely basic level. The hierarchy of gods shows us what various people's thought the highest order of virtues to embrace was and showed us that virtues and human structures must be ordered to survive the chaos and suffering of mere existence. And the stories of those who sacrificed themselves for the good of all tell us that the sane and good response to wickedness and evil is to be willing to lay down your life to make the world better. To embrace suffering and not flinch from it in your pursuit of all that is good. To sacrifice everything on the altar of goodness. Without myth it might seem strange that the sane approach to life includes the willingness to die. But without that hardness, life is floppy and meaningless and those who live without the hardness to endure the suffering of existence are twisted up into crooked, corrupt things.
Myths and symbolism is the way ancient peoples personified "the human condition," in many ways. If you get down to it and actually understand the symbolism, it's very introspective and can be enlightening. Problem is many people read these myths and take it way too literally. Especially since much of the symbolism has become outdated.
well ppl just like to think that the time they live in is the most epic, and is the age to end all ages, but the truth is that big events always happen, be it wars, famines, plagues. historians are the ones who sort out the pieces of such events
@@Joleyn-Joy They have? Most leftists I see seem convinced that the revolution is right around the corner. Unless by "leftist" you mean the neoliberal elites on Twitter or CNN, who are basically all just shills for their corporate overlords, and will occasionally virtue signal about some vague progressive nonsense, but otherwise have no interest in challenging the status quo.
@@nikolayvladimirov8633 The book argued that history had essentially ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, because western liberalism had been proven as the only legitimate system of government.
26:25 "It's so much easier just to flagellate ourselves in our depression and gain the narcissism of feeling so much smarter than everyone else, that we're beyond reality and have figured it all out" Great quote, definitely an idea I've dealt with in the past myself. However, I need to acknowledge that I still have important things ahead of me.
Extraordinarily late to the party, but I wanted to take a moment to thank you for this insightful, well- researched and well- presented, thought provoking video. My first introduction to the idea of questioning reality came early, perhaps 50 years ago. Since then, I have struggled with many of the falsehoods of reality, and you have helped me to better understand my actions, motivations and the culture in which I live. Well done sir. Thank you again.
You are not questioning reality. You are searching for reality through the propaganda you have been told all your life. Postmodernism is the greatest lie ever perpetrated by academia on the general population.
Books, videos like this one and acess to the internet is everything that you need to become a genius. You can prove that by seeing the courses jn harvard changing to those techs alone
@@sbura_ @cao russo That morality exists. That science can't decide all of those things for a person who is scientific. The fact he claims a person can't argue that something is true because Marx said it is also quite hypocritical given that he has picked only books that follow the belief he is sharing (I'm not a Marxist just saying). I mean I could dissect and argue forever in this comment if I wanted to but that doesn't matter because it's still good content but understand that this is not a "top 11 fact" most of this is based on his perspective and he is showing where he got this info. A lot of those sources have very good counter-sources that an individual wouldn't be wrong in picking and he never really shares this except for the section justifying the logical conclusions that nazis, unfortunately, came to. It's a great video but I think he also expects people to research these things on their own but it's youtube so I'm pretty sure the majority won't and it's a shame he doesn't somehow give that message in a better way.
I love how every criticism against nihilism I've ever seen is basically doubling down on the nihilism. You're not proving nihilism wrong. You're just creating a new interpretation of it.
I have used nihilism to defeat nihilism. Nihilism is very tricky to argue against, basically the only argument against it is "there is objective inherent meaning in the universe" and people just don't buy that. We kinda generally agree that the world has no objective meaning, so nihilism is mainstream. Your only escape is the optimist nihilism, like Camus with his theory of The Absurd, saying that we humans are in a constant struggle against the universe because we search for meaning in a meaningless world. And optimist nihilism is basically looking at that fact and going "you know what, imma care about stuff anyway, I'll live in spite of the meaningless world, and make my own."
In the case of the art argument shown early on, the need to emulate photo realism diminishes with the large scale availability of photography tech. After having exact images becomes instantaneous (relatively), patrons no longer seek out talented portraiture or landscape artists because all that can be had in a moments notice for a fraction of the price. As such the move towards more impressionistic imagery and concepts begins with these trained individuals no longer being sought out for large sums to depict photo realistic imagery and instead focus their intention on other matters. To say that photo realistic painting has disappeared is no more than a lie; as it’s still around (for the right price) but it’s no longer as popular because patrons (whoever it might be) don’t seek what can be achieved by cheaper and faster means. Now if you’re not fond of contemporary art thats fine, the art you seek will always exist and if not make it or sponsor someone who will.
Also, punks generally believe in total self expression, they do however draw the line at discriminatory beliefs and oppressive sentiments (thats y nazi punks are hated by the movement and right wing ‘punks’ are antithetical in the eyes of some). So a monarchist would largely be smashed out in any punk circles generally because of their desire to see singular rule. On top of that the biggest misconception about the punk movement is that their entire ethos is contrarianism instead of contrarianism in the face of structural oppression (see the 80’s CA punk movement in retaliation to Reaganism). Hell with this definition rural 19th century American folk music can be punk and all of jazz, rap, other forms of rock as well which is the idea in general, for it not to be attached to the rock scene exclusively but rather a be sentiment.
Contemporary non figurative art is not cheaper than figurative art. Also patreons see what they do as investment, either for future higher value of the works or social investment. Much of the point of modern art is as investment.
@@andrewsauer2729 He's talking about relativism in general. The idea that there is no truth and thus no standards. The problem with his applying it to modern art is that the popularity/value of different art forms is (to use his own words) driven not by logic but by intangibles.
I think what he is trying to say can be better understand via contemporary classical music. Where currently because the believe of no objectivity in music, music that sound like plane crash is highly regarded by contemporary musicians just because they are new and don’t follow any existing melodies but no one listen to them. And new music that sounds nice and use old melodies are frowned upon.
My uncle Hajo Holborn, PhD, was a professor of History at Yale for 30 years before he fled Nazi Germany. He later became the president of the American Historical Assn. He wrote a number of books that would interest any who value the work of Rudyard. Hajo predicted much of the issues in the Euro continent and was a historical cultural expert who was a consultant to Truman in the post war years. My professor, Peter F. Drucker, PhD, was an Austrian and prolific writer of business strategy who said, "Culture eats strategy for breakfast." Rudyard's commentary on culture and the world in which we live in, is in such a mixed up state, should be highly regarded - or else any endeavor one entertains to improve the world we live in.. is destined to dismal failure... Culture is everything. JCH
@@kevincabrera6259 Being influenced by specific lines of thought isn't really an issue as this necessarily has to have happened for you to have opinions about huge historical topics that you have no first hand experience of. The potential problem would be blatant bias which I don't think he exhibits in this video.
Why when i say the world one day whould be end the people takes that like something bad, but if i say the world never stop of develop and evolutionate the people automatically thinks in that like something good? both things are true but apparently if i say one of those things the people thinks than it's good or bad, why happen? what it's what makes than the people seeing something like optimistic?
So happy I have found this channel. I've thought a lot about these topics as well and I often feel isolated due to none of my peers caring or falling into these lies about reality. Thank you for making the content you make and contributing to free thought.
Find videos that Charlene your believes and biases. Watching videos that align with them won't help you grow. This guys filled with his biases that he passes off as facts.
"If someone tells you that he knows how to solve every problem and who's responsible for all things bad they're lying either to you, or to themselves" - my grandpa
Centrist propaganda. Sometimes we can identify the persons responsible for acts, even if not every time. It's morally wrong to not do anything about it if you know who caused it. We should strive to act.
20:10 You're forgetting the Mongol burning of Baghdad and its libraries, which dealt a major blow to the Arabic intelligentsia, while copies of several of these burned books mainly existed in Europe.
Yes that happens when the only knowledge you have is that researched by cultures that came before you while the only thing your "muslim scholars" and "muslim scientists" study is Quran and Hadiths. For those that don't know the only thing these muslim books have in them is what Muhammad said and did and what his followers said and did. They are basically history books. That's all muslim world studies and focuses on. "Muslim scientist" is focusing to memorize Quran to the letter and that's biggest progress in muslim world. On one side you have Albert Einstein who found Atoms which changed world forever gave us Nuclear Energy and Weapons or Tesla that came up with AC Power that is reason we even have electrical devices and technology we have today on other side we got random Ahmad from Lahore that memorized Quran by reading it over and over. Like only for braindead person it would be hard to understand why there can never be any scientific progress or advancments in muslim world. There are secular muslim countries that are able to balance between two and do something but they are always under constant threat from radicals from hordes of teenage Abduls thirsting for those virgins they read about and now wanna bring revolution and turn their country into another Afghanistan or Lybia.
Just like how "Christians scholars" study the bible, and "physicists" study physics. All these words to say nothing... Also, Einstein did not "find" the atom, and tesla did not invent Alternative current.
Bro shut up if you don't know anything don't talk. Ibn Al-haytham literally invented science as we know it today and he wasn't less than a Muslim living hundreds of years ago. Beside of Ibn Al-haytham there was many other muslim chads like Al-Chawarsmi bro he invented algebra and algorithm and many other stuff without him Internet wouldn't exist you stupid little ass kid who takes science as God and doesn't know that Believers in God invented it.
@@abcdc197 you generalise the middle east by your superior not knowing nothing in self experience about being in that situation yourself if you had bombs and bullets flying over your head constantly and your family dissapearing and dying don't you think you would either be batshit sitting in your Stockholm or armed to the teeth with a resistance fighting what could or could not be a regime you try living in a poor part or even a rich part of the middle east and Isreal doesn't count because isreal is not a real place
Every side, no matter who they are, uses science to justify their worldview. You and I do it too. It's making sure that we approach the topic scientifically, in other words, going out of our way to prove our hypothesis wrong. And not "using science" to prove it right.
@@asongeveryday holy shit dude your right, that's the best description of modern politics I've ever heard unironically , I've always had a weird feeling about today's politics and you just put my thoughts into words better than I ever could
I hate when people say "trust the science", as it's some sort of religion. The development of science has occurred thanks to people doubting and testing what was accepted as science. I imagine people telling to Galileo, "follow the science", "trust the science." Yeah, following the science mostly means trusting whoever paid the scientists to try to prove what they want to prove.
@@leto.o5759 well I think he's kinda right... Unless the fate of an empire or somthing similar to that is in my hands, I don't really think that my life has that much meaning tbh
Ideas for videos What if Rome converted to Judaism instead of Christianity? (Jews actually did a lot of proselitism between III and V century, and their religion became quite popular in the Empire) What if Persia remained Zoroastrian? What if none won WW1? What if the great schism never happened? What if the Taiping rebellion succeeded?
Considering Zoroastrianism survived. Persians should've won war against mußlim forces. So there will be no paper transfer to Europe. The Abbasid caliphate controlled large area where they got indian,greek, Persian sciences combined and advanced scientific discoveries.so no science. Islam wouldn't have become dominant religion
@@gamehacker2801 just because one caliphate only gets 2/3rds of this science triforce that (from your comment) seems to exist, doesn't mean that there is no science. And Islam probably could still be a dominant religion, it would just have to expand in other directions. :)
@@gamehacker2801 Exactly. The so called Islamic Golden Age is actually the Islamic Age of Conquest. Islam in itself has nothing meaningful to offer to anyone seeking empirical knowledge. It was only because they conquered and appropriated the scientific and scholarly achievements of the Greeks, Persians, Babylonians, Romans, Indians, Chaldeans etc that the muslims were able to create a so called "golden age." Europe rose to pre-eminence following the Enlightenment and the Renaissance and became increasingly more scientifically advanced and militarily powerful over the centuries, the Islamic world faded into the oblivion in which it now finds itself.
@@thebeatnumber Bruh that's ridiculous. Just like the renaissance thinkers, islamic scientists started with the greek and roman texts and thinkers and built off them. Also why don't persian scientists count as part of the islamic world? Blame the mongols for destroying baghdad and the house of wisdom.
I was going to viciously disagree with "logical=correct" is a lie, but after listening to the section, you got me to agree. Mostly because I think when you are talking about "logical" here, you refer to people who take one bit of information and try to create a whole argument and try to pass off their logical conclusion as overall "logic" which is a strain of stupidity plaguing our current society. I do still believe logic=correct, but only when applied in a way that takes several different factors into account that lead to an outcome that could evolve with new factors. When you decide what outcome you want, then try to use logic to get there, you are not really using logic. The quote that really hooked me to your stance is "under certain circumstances, irrationality is good" because that is so true, what sounds irrational to a person, group or society might just be holding them back from true logic.
Operating on a false assumption necessarilly invalidates the conclusions drawn from it as well, even if the method itself was correct. That doesn't mean the method itself is flawed.
I think on that part that while there is definitely a completely logical approach to everything, it is not in the humans grasp to find or even understand it. Together with religion I believe this is the god of the modern world, the deeper logic of this world, unable to grasp and only quantifiable through religion, philosophy or ideology
@roasted pancakes I mean, A-->B is actually defined as (¬A∨B), so that doesn't quite work, but yes, assuming that a false thing is true will always yield a wrong argument.
@roasted pancakes Well, because it's defined that way. (A-->B) is propositional calculus, specifically material implication and that's the replacement rule. While you are correct in that one can't simply reverse the contraposition, this is entirely irrelevant here, seeing as I did no such thing in the first place. But to give a more extensive explanation: (¬A∨B) is true if A and B are true, as B has to be true if A is true, and it is true if A is false, since if A is false, you're not making a statement about B, so any valuation of B is correct.
"Philosophy actually generally annoys me" As soon as I heard that I knew I was in for a decent video from a decent philosopher. I haven't heard anything worth hearing from anyone truly energized about the field. Please keep up your good work sir.
Every person i met that has studied philosophy in academia or knows a lot about it from studies in history. Every single one of these people find it annoying
I'd think that when people claim they dislike a whole field like philosophy, they really have a problem with just some aspects of it and not the whole concept. For example, if you say you hate math, you probably don't cringe and moan everytime you do a quick, simple little addition in your head, or see a golden ratio manifesting in nature, or engage intuitively in logical thinking. Instead, maybe you dislike rigid practices you were taught in school about math, or maybe you've met some arrogant math students that think they're above other people since they're doing "the smartest thing" or something like that. I assume it's similar case with philosophy, maybe people dislike something in the academical side or have suffered from poor conversations regarding philosophy.
As an Architect, I know the story of Brasilia all too well, we were taught this (as well as many Modernist nightmare examples like Pruitt Igo etc) as why central macro and micro planning in urban design flat out does not work.
@@Danaluni59 Central planning in urban terms not political terms, as in planning the roads and streets, electrical lines, pipes etc - you need SOME central urban planning
I agree, but after the lines and infrastructure are drawn up, space has to be left for a community to build itself and it’s own cultural identity. My home town of Hayward CA is easy to drive through, but no one comes here for fun; whereas San Francisco is a nightmare to drive through, but there’s no where else like it.
I never considered myself a fan of learning philosophy, I’ve tried to get into it time and time again, but his videos never ceases to get me hooked on it.
Dude this whibba gave me a brain blast and the opposite of an midlife crisis. I feel better and in an overall better mood about life after watching this
2:38 This is perhaps the scariest frame that I've seen since I discovered this channel: It perfectly highlights that the most terrifying part about what's coming _isn't_ that shit's gonna hit the fan hard; the _really_ scary part is that as bad as it's gonna get, it's _still_ not even the worst that has befallen us in history... It carries the same existential dread that comes from that one story Ronald Reagan told about how he and another Republican were talking to a Cuban refugee and listening to all of the horrors of Castro's regime, and when the other guy commented about how lucky the two of them were to not live under such tyranny, the refugee replied with an even _more_ horrifying thought: "How lucky _you_ are? At least _I_ had someplace to flee to."
@River "Society isn't here to hold your hand" that is literally the entire point of society. to come together and help each other for the collective good of all. If we didn't give people a helping hand, we'd be living in the purge, not even hunter gatherers and literal wild animals are dumb enough to actually believe that. And you don't believe it either, it's just a convenient phrase that allows you to sound righteous and powerful while what you actually believe in and are saying is "i don't owe you a helping hand because your suffering doesn't affect me" edit: that was supposed to be a reply to the guy you replied to, mb
Culture is extremely important and feeling a part of a community is the main factor in happiness. Better yourself then help your community/family and you'll be happy (99% guarantee lol)
I would only add one thing to that: settle down and have a family. The loneliness I see so many people in their 30s-50s experiencing rn is devastating!!
@@westonmatthews5501 True many sacrifice having a family for their career. But humans aren't a one size fit all, some people are better off never having children tbh
I might be that %1. I have been bettering myself and helping my family and community all my life, and I keep finding myself unhappy. Meanwhile I find, if not happiness and fulfilment, then feeling good, in selfish pursuits. Having a family I know requires sacrifice, giving your happiness. I don't bemoan this idea and for all I know I could be envious of the people who find satisfaction in family. But for me, I dislike things about my family, my upbringing, and with not a proper amount of happiness within me, raising a family with the idea to extract happiness from it I know would be disastrous. I don't want to put myself through that, or anyone else. So here I am, with the things that most people find meaningful: holding next to zero purpose to me, what do I do?
True, it makes me furious when people around me allow themselves to become nihilistic or irrationally negative. Suffered from severe depression for 1/3 of my lifetime. For a literal survivor like me, it is injury to insult. I will be tolerant, but it always reminds me how dangerous it is to let yourself let go of meaning. Have a Vision, have a plan. Your life is only a journey, if you don't turn it into a process. If you don't take control, you will be pushed around. A game-changer, for me, was reading the book "Virtue of Selfishness" by Ayn Rand.
I think everyone should have a really dark period of being nihilistic before they can rise from the ashes and become an übermensch, it seems that’s your case, not saying you’re an übermensch though.
@@shakey3306 what people should really do start valuing themselves. Start evaluating what they're priorities are and why they are. Ones people start prioritising themselves over everything. They can escape delusions and have real meaning.
Some edgy 13 yos are like “positive nihilism is better” People start seeing nihilism as philosophy than a mental state which is just delusion. Not having meaning in life isn't “truth” but a state..
This channel really is a gift that keeps on giving. Please continue to diversify your content since your attempts so far have been fantastic and of high quality.
Finally I heard someone else critique the phrase "I believe in science". Like you said, science is a method. It's not a collection of facts and ideas. It's a way to continually refine our understanding of the natural world. It is not a static thing.
Your wrong Science is both a methodology and a collection of Data. What this guy is saying is that science can’t give humans oughts. Science, both the method and the data, can tell us that climate change is happening and what it will affect, but science can’t tell us how to address the problem or even if we should care. That was his point.
They mean to say that they believe in objective truth, which is what science aims for. There is an inherent philosophy in the statement that you've obviously missed due to some form of bias on your part.
Honestly the most important thing is the “if I knew my own biases I wouldn’t have them” a lot of your other stamens seemed biased from my point of view and I’m sure mine would seem biased to yours
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 "On all accounts," I guess you cannot Google? There are several links you can follow, so your shitty use of using an absolute makes it clear you wrong, even if I'd told a single lie - makes it clear where you stand and how intellectually honest and dialogue with you would be.
Torturing people to death in public would greatly increase morale! Think about flaying a jaywalker alive in front of a cheering crowd and throwing his skinless remains to a bunch rabid wild boars to finish off the job. Sounds overkill but that would be the end of jaywalking in that town. Liberals have ruined civilization by pampering criminals.
2:21 Progress is inherent
5:02 Black and White Worldview
6:42 Logical = Correct
8:36 Morality is Relative
10:05 "Science" and other false gods
11:52 Pain and force are the worst things possible
15:06 The world is Zero Sum
17:13 Humans are purely material
19:47 The truth doesn't exist
22:05 What is good for one is good for the rest
23:23 Human's aren't animals
25:18 Life has no meaning
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You are the real MVP
Bless you mate
I'll remember to credit you once I start my own empire from Pakistan. Just need to get out of my mom's apartment.
Big Edward Sallow/William Walker (either one) energy
My stepmom's house* but same
I'ma join
I'll credit him once I form the empire of brittanistan in ck3 lol.
Good 1
I think the “truth doesn’t exist” myth was perfectly exemplified by a philosophy professor I had a few years ago who said that “no amount of philosophical skepticism about an objective external world will prevent my fist from breaking your nose.”
Note, This was hearted before being edited
I need that professor lol
This professor is a genius
@@kami6401 Just edited some grammar mistakes lol
Must have been before the Current Year because that microaggression would lead to his immediate termination.
"when you throw away standards you automatically get the worst product" - one of the best quotes ever.
Agreed. I'm definitely going to use it. I'll try and remember to give him credit. :-)
"The point of standards is to improve the outcome."
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@@Konkov have it here... People dont finish, spend a decade or more in it, lots leave later... In itself its not the solution. It is however a good step. Trade schools need more attention too.
Touché, and it simply applies to everything. Because everything should have some sort of desired outcome.
“Pacifism effectively gives all the cards to the unscrupulous who will use force to game the system” - very well put
Pacifism is a luxury bought with the blood of the valorous
While social and legacy media convinces you those in power aren't unscrupulous. See Twitter and Elon Musk.
Yeah, we could attain peace if we just killed all the opponents of OUR peace. Well, Hell; this is a torment.
I think peace is easier for the strong. We could work on that.
@@stapleman007 Musk buying Twitter is the right and principled thing to do though. The only reason a person would disagree is because they seek to continue to silence those they disagree with.
@@stapleman007 cope
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The Next Video: Fuck it philosophy.
Yeah, and it's awesome !
good vid tho
I thought exactly the same!😁
Dude I'll take more of this any day of the week.
@@dejankojic4293 I love this branching out
Question: Has the worry of kids going outside and possibly getting kidnapped always existed? I figured that the only reason people are more scared and concerned about it now unlike 50 years ago was because it wasn’t as reported in the media compared to today?
I think today society might blame the parents as much as the kidnapper for not being helicopter parents so they never let their children out of sight for fear of the Karens around them.
It's a cultural realignment, 100 years ago if your neighbors kid, or someone's kid in your town disappeared then you'd hear about it and you'd go out to help look for the little fucker. Now that's someone else's problem and you don't want to get a problem like that, as well as that the less children ppl have the more they will value the few that they have even if it's an irrational fear.
@@januarysson5633 There was in instance in my neighbourhood about a year ago where a woman received a visit from Child and Family Services because...drum roll...her children were unsupervised while playing outside *in her fenced back yard*. Parents are expected to be within arms reach of their children 24/7 until those chidren turn 18, at which point they're criticized for not being independent enough.
I think it's also since we dont have 1/3-2/3rds of kids dying before adulthood, we tend to worry about the ones we have more.
it's a combination of declining trust in communities, and declining mental health overall within the society, combined with news outlets have economic incentive to over-report tragedies.
#3 logical = correct. This reminds me of the quote attributed to Yogi Bera, “In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are different’.
Theory is created by combined practice. Theory and Practice are parts of the same cycle.
Theory is practice. And practice is theory, but applied in new context.
And you need both.
but he took the wrong route on that, its not because logical isnt always correct from our point of wiew we shouldnt strive for true logic, its the, because logic isnt always true lets just rely on tradition, religion and cultural norms, aka humans are shit and we need a strict system to keep them from being stupid logic cant be perfected and improved, wich pretty much throws all the scientific progress and the shift towards science most of the world has had culturally in the later years
too few observations were made to support these "wrong logic" arguments. it's more about mistakes than logic being wrong. to be too sure of bald conclusions may be what he was trying to call wrong but not the logic itself.
Something can follow a certain logic, but still lead to irrational conclusions (based on erroneous axioms, for example). Logic can lead to truth, as a compass can lead to a destination, but both require knowledge of their proper use, as well as other tools
"If evil exists than so does good" This is a very heartening statement.
It's like Rite and the moment when guy was happy seeing Devil because it was his proof for existence of God.
Wasn't it called symmetrism ? Duality is a really confusing concept.
But in reality existence of one bad outcome or choice doesn't prove other outcome to be not as bad or worse... Only the very fact of evaluating it as bad wrong suboptimal brings you solace in understanding that you notice error and so can imagine something right better or a solution. That is alone enough for action in good direction but for some not enough especially if they have habit in repeating mistakes.
Eventually your impact is limited, but impacting yourself consciously is already a great win, not something obvious at all
@@ebrelus7687 It's the old argument for why the devil (and by extension demons, vampires, general purpose Eee-vile Beings) don't manifest in the modern world directly: because if they did, sensible people would immediately reach for God's protection. The extension to this is that the Age of Miracles is over, or mostly over, because if God intervened constantly, we'd all see it and we wouldn't have free will, any more than we do about believing in electricity or gravity. (Or, I suppose, that only stupid people who cannot be swayed by evidence would have free will...)
Good is the absence of evil... a bit of a low bar but - beggars can't be choosers.
@@theedwardian No good is whatever God likes and evil is whatever he hates.
@@danielromerosol4158 The God of Abraham, the one that reigns in heaven, if yours is not him then you are worshipping a Devil, and you will be forced to believe in the one true Lord.
As someone with chronic depression, your addressing of some of these world illusions actually has helped me think through some stuff and get a bit more motivated. Don't ask me why this is the case. I don't know. Just thank you :)
2020 did a number on my mental health, although I've always been struggling. This channel was a real bright spot for me in gaining context and keeping stable.
Me 2 :)
Stay strong and keep motivated. I believe in you😁
There is lots to live for, after hard parts come beautiful ones. And there are so many beautiful places to see and memories to make on this earth.
@@thommyneterv there aint no good parts, stop lying
I was raised by 2 engineers and as a result I understand pretty well how much planning and work goes into the artificial world around us. I design water and waste water infrastructure. So many of my friends and people around me have a very strange idea of what "normal" is. I often use my job as an analogy as to how artificial our world really is. You see, the sewage doesn't just leave your house. There are teams of people involved in making sure that very simple thing we all take for granted and do every day works. I tell people that the natural human condition is more like standing ankle deep in shit, and if it wasn't for our technology and society that's probably where we'd all be standing. Basically everything we think is normal is something someone created and we have to work every day to keep up that level of infrastructure. So go out there and do your part to make life better, because who wants to be standing in shit.
Amazing comparison. The problem is shit like social media: Twitch thots, Only Fans, Twitter, IG, etc. These cesspools stifle any chance of innovation. It’s a tunnel with no light at the end of it.
@@miguelgonzalez6495 Everything you mentioned goes under the entertainment sector. They have their place in society. You can't cancel movies by stating that it has no impact on the REAL world because entertainment can serve as a source of inspiration that can drive change in the real world.
@@venkteshprasadmayarao7265 Name something modern that is “inspirational.”
@@miguelgonzalez6495 this "modern times are wrong, it was better in the old days" trope has been mentioned since the time of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
@Dani Sin the boring part comes from most of us not having faced major adversities. And why is it called "late stage" capitalism? As far as I know, the current era of capitalism/democratic system hasn't been implemented in history ever before. Are you predicting that it's gonna come to an end soon, which is why you're calling it "late stage"?
When a person says “Life is meaningless” what they’re really saying “ *My* life is meaningless”
difficult...it rather means that person hasn't found or created a meaning for themselves
Ah, projecting, aren't we? That's what you want to hear, fool.
sounds like cope
@Tradpa0212 what?
@Tradpa0212 hello?
"Give me a single time the human race has done anything" has me in tears
The 100m human race empirically established a man named 'Bolt' was the fastest. That has to count for something!
@@stapleman007
😂🤣😂🤣
@Stapleman 007, well, the fastest so far, right? Something, not nothing 👍
Human race at one point had left 1 female so there is a chance it did something together at least once in history like f.e. surviving 😂
Adam and Eve procreated.
Brazilian here.
You have no idea you much you nailed how we see our capital, spot on my guy.
One of the most unnecessary things made by our government
@@graznynadsat4027 Second only to the military coup in 1889. Like, damn.
What? I've never even heard most of his criticisms. The city is fine, the fact that they thought the builder's population would leave after the construction is true, but otherwise the city is like any other. We even have some upsides compared to other state capitals, like nice arborization and not having the skyline dominated by skyscrappers.
@@lejogador provavelmente pq você mora nela
@@brxnv_ sim, mas nunca vi ninguém falar que Brasília essas coisas online também. Além disso, muitos dos pontos fracos de Brasília são porque a cidade é nova basicamente, não pelo jeito que ela foi planejada. Quem olha pra Brasília e pensa "hum, queria ter mais dificuldade pra achar um endereço"?
E "opressiva"? A cidade não é nada diferente das outras cidades fora do plano piloto, e dentro ela é muito mais organizada. "Chata" eu até entendo de onde vem, porque no começo era pior. Mas agora tem mais comercio, bar, essas paradas. E isso era, como disse, porque a cidade era nova.
Eu não concordo com o ponto que ele fez, que a cidade "falhou" porque não levaram em conta a natureza humana. O design da cidade não trás nenhum dos problemas que ele falou, e a maior falha foi não levarem em conta que a população obreira não ia ir embora depois da construção na hora que planejaram.
My grandma and mother often told me "Force/Violence is not a solution", while becoming aggressive when I disagreed with them.
"You tell me Violence is not the solution, whilst you use force to instill that value into me."
"Violence is never the answer!"... indeed, it is but a simple question, and the answer is resoundingly "YES"
Violence isn't a solution most times, but when it is the solution you need to be prepared to use it effectively. Passivism is fine 99% of the time, but too often we take it to the extreme and have no preparations when violence is necessary. I am a mostly passive dude, but I have trained some martial arts and keep my body in relatively good shape for the times when violence is necessary. Roosevelt said it best, walk softly and carry a big stick. Too much of the west is walking softly and left their stick at home.
“A-holes are always demanding that other a-holes not be a-holes, by being complete a-holes to them”
- thewhatthefuckisthist
"Mit Gewalt, geht's halt"
Wow!
You somehow twenty seconds ago made me completely rethink every notion of independent thought in the last past 39 years. And I want to tell you thank you. And that I appreciate you.
I'm a stubborn person but whatever you just did or in the way you just stated it your message worked.
Excellent upload and it really is people like you who inspire me to be that person. A light on the world.
I just truly appreciate your work and your research
I got three decent video suggestions:
What if there was no Late Bronze Age Collapse?
What if the Inca survived?
The Future of the Middle East.
can we please have the last one
The last will be 20 mintues of a love letter to Turkey, I kinda want to see that tbh
If the future of the Middle East one isn’t soundtracked by “God, Syria and Bashar”, I will cry.
Last one
@@BBP-OMO Turkey seems to be in a good position for expansion, but their people seem to not like their government. Which is an expansionist, highly Islamic one. So I don't know what to think of it.
As a brazilian, what you said about Brasilia (our capital) makes a lot of sense to me. Moving our capital from Rio to Brasilia was one of the worst decisions in our country`s history. Not only is this city very ugly in general with its modernistic style but it gave the political class a shield from the people`s scrutiny since the capital is so damn far away from the big centers. Really good video btw
I never knew about brazilia was until I watched this video
I actually liked Brasilia the times I went there, I like that type of organized all the same architecture
@@destyon9966 ur pathetic
Someone who claims there is no objective truth obviously believes in the truth of his statement!
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@@melvinklark4088 if they claim something is objectively true it doesn’t matter anyway. Because the other option is subjective truth. Either claim “there is no objective truth” or “there is only subjective truth” are objective truth claims and are self refuting.
Only a sith deals in absolutes
@@clemenx Said the Jedi who thought the Sith were objectively evil - an absolutist position regarding good and evil. 🤔😆
In truth, Obi-Wan is one of my favorites characters; I just like to pick on him for that statement.
The “humans aren’t animals” one hit me the hardest. Put into perspective how much of our society and culture might not be taking our basic needs into account
But its also funny because Christians would want to reject the idea that humans are merely animals. And since he's Christian wouldn't it be heretical to think that?
@@Snoop_Dugg see 5:02
Humans right now try to be least human possible... that's the biggest problem. human being evolved animal was never a problem. the problem is a blind journey from that optimal natural point & defying own nature
@@Snoop_Dugg Nobody says humans are mere animals. Christians don't reject animal nature, they admit it saying to not let animal nature drive you as you are more than animal.
Modern trend is worse it's denying own human roots intirely and reconstructing idea of human artificially totally cutting of from nature and pretending you can function away from environment that made you in the first place and that you can construct better environment.
Despite in most of civilization doing quite opposite XD
That's a total denial of own humanity including all natural human body functions what started with human innovations and leaving species proper human diet.
If you could start eating crap and still living and even grow in nr faster than you can put crap into head also and expect not harming yourself and increase overall brain capacity...
When you start treating a mistake as a success suddenly you open gates to inviting unlimited wave of mistakes fulling yourself miracles are coming...
@@Snoop_Dugg It is all just semantics, in the end Christians actually believe that humans have such a nature but do not call it animalistic rather "carnal desires" that need to be fought against.
the Protestant (Puritans especially) did have a very negative view on humanity as a whole but nonetheless were filled with purpose.
Introverts talk the most once they find someone they are comfortable with.
@@so_cold7776 git gud nub xd
@@so_cold7776 if you already discussion on the internet you have what is needed to be social. Because as was say in the video humans have they animal side and most social conversation is about useless topics just to get talking to someone.
Just remember this 3 rules: what is good to do as a friend is what is expected of a good allie of war.
If you let people know that you trust then (even if you dont) they will be more easily to trust you.
Think from they point of view and see the situation not only from your perspective but from the wide context
@@so_cold7776 I am introvert, don't posses any attractive trait,shy. But give me a topic I like, say history, philosophy, international relations, science, Psychology,and I will talk hours with someone, irrespective of their gender. But yeah,the only thing i would require is that person should be fully invested and interested and passionate about those topics too! Otherwise I would cringe and feel uncomfortable
@@so_cold7776 You should invest your focus into other parts of life, i feel like that could be improved on or even twisted into a blessing.
@@so_cold7776 bro you say thay when I am the most introverted person in history, waaayyy more than you
Alternate history, geopolitics, now philosophy! Your channel covers everything under the sun, man--and I love it!
Love your videos
The “progress is natural” idea I think is the most dangerous. A lot of people actually seem to think due to our technological advancement and social “progress” (all things labeled as “social progress” will just be triumphs for the most popular ideology 9 times out of 10) we will continue to soar towards the heavens and reach that “end of history” point.
I think its safe to say the Romans believed something similar before it came crashing down for them.
To reach the end of history point we will have to reach and see the truth abt everything and this will never happen because we can not reach this stage with our limited brains but we will keep getting closer and closer and anyone who tries to stop this process will very soon be a part of history and not the present or future
@@concept5631 the roamans didn't have nukes
@@AleXcsGaming The Soviets had nukes and it didn't save them.
The wheel always turns. The course of empires. The dharmic cycle. Momento mori.
The older I get the more I realize this has all happened before, more or less. Sad that people know more about the world of Westeros or Middle-Earth than their own. Honestly, I think the elites prefer it that way.
🍞 and 🎪
You’ve hit the nail on the head. That is most definitely not an accident
This right here. Its all a cleverly crafted smokescreen.
The problem isn't that people know those fictional worlds better. The problem is most don't realize that fiction was made using human logic and emotion, the same things we use to make our cultures and systems. They are not 1:1 comparable, but to say the patterns in one cannot be found in the other is just willful ignorance. Logic of actions stays the same, while the laws of the worlds in fiction change. There's always similar archetype stories: a family fight, redemption, rise to power...to name a few. Those appear in real life too, although with much more complexity, which makes seeing them harder. Patterns in fiction are just patterns from reality, with all the mundane fluff removed, or divergence in development. If reality was a programming language, patterns would be functions, and history would be those functions with variables loaded. Thar's why it acts in the same way even though every variable can be different, cause it's the same pattern, same function. We humans fucked up by focusing on what the function spits out, rather than how the function itself works.
After even just a cursory study of History and Anthropology I saw that as well; the Roaring 20's and the 2010's produced the same complaints of debauchery and deviance, and the 2020's is looking to be a similar economic black hole similar to the 1930's. The only difference between then and now is that we have shinier things (and in every society that causes people to become more arrogant, saying "We won't make the mistake they made because we have shinier things!").
As a young teenager, I briefly felt very nihilist, but it didn't take long for me to realize that if nothing matters, then that includes the fact that nothing matters. Which is kind of how I frame my philosophy.
At long last, an interesting comment!
Edit: I hadn't watched the whole vid yet lol
I actually came to a similar conclusion about a year ago. If nothing matters, then the fact that nothing matters also does not matter
@@thelordz33 Exactly!vAnd when you reach that conclusion, the only natural feeling one should get is either dread or relief. I myself felt relief which was followed by freedom. IN a universe which there is no inherit meaning, you can make one of your choosing, so just live your most fullfilling life lad!
@@leovnambo I agree but under this logic our meaning still has no meaning. For some reason it doesn't seem to bother me, though.
I used nihilism to destroy nihilism
Damn he's really branching out from just alternate history with geopolitics videos, and now a semi psychological and philosophy one
i love it tho
This video was really insightful and interesting, this has quickly become one of my favourite channels of the past year
Loving the philosophy~
It's just shit psychology and philosophy that fits your existing views, nothing to be excited about
@@oxiosophy ^ upset Marxist fanboy
@@demun6065
He definitely smells of Marxist
I used to study in Brasília and can confirm, that place sucks
I don t get how the lac of social gathering places effect so many, as I live in a small country with basically no gathering spaces people just use caffes or a simple benches
Perfect description kklkl
@@nicolagotti4437 a city of three million needs more than cafes and benches
Goiania or Palmas are close and much better cities. The national capital is just a front for a criminal system that has ruled this country since the fall of the Empire.
@@viniciusdomenighi6439 Goiania, Palmas and Belo Horizonte were also planned cities, but because they had a very organic growth and development, they became much more socially friendly cities to live in.
"The belief that the world has no meaning, in turn, is relative and so I can ignore it." Spot on. I think you're right - the problem here is cynical laziness.
Best video yet. Keep up the good work!
We create our own meaning. This is existentialism: the belief that despite the world having no inherent purpose, it is our responsibility to give our originally purposeless lives meaning. The world having no meaning isn’t an excuse for laziness, it’s by far the most probable conclusion. Laziness is laziness. We have no inherent purpose, but that isn’t an excuse for not living life to the fullest.
Also, this sort of logical argument goes against his third proposition. We know with reason that life has no purpose. Reality is not logic. Just because you can create a logical paradox, this doesn’t make the argument any less valid- reasonably, empirically, or probabilistically.
I think without a tight family structure (like in US and maybe other parts of developed world) people will op out from working a meaningless job if what they have to sustain themselves to the end or have enough government support to do it which is what is happening post COVID among the more elderly work force.
I have 80yrs on Earth. 20yrs in schooling and 20yrs of being old. I have less than, 40yrs to create meaning for myself. Living life to my fullest is meaning enough.
@@johnl.7754 " if what they have to sustain themselves to the end " Is that bad somehow ?
I mean, if you were in a hunter gatherer society, you better do something otherwise the tribe put you out alone in the woods to fend for yourself, good luck with that...
Its amusing to think people are entitled to something in this modern society.
@@monad_tcp I’m not saying that it’s good or bad just the cause and effect of society changes. I myself have retired early.
Non-historians: “We can’t have big empires anymore and they wouldn’t collapse anyway”
The USSR: hold my ICBM
The problem with making big empires now is that you can't really conquer to get them without stepping on the toes of a great nuclear power.
No doubt the existing ones can still collapse though - and I'm still kind of impressed the USSR somehow did so without releasing tons of nuclear weapons onto the black market
@@RaidsEpicly Or without stepping on an ally of a nuclear power. Otherwise Taiwan and Ukraine would have long since been taken by China and Russia, respectively.
USA: Hold my Military bases and Alliances of client states
ignore me just claiming my ticket for when the "the soviet union wasn't an empire!" person arrives
@@nou3077 LMAO even as a Leftist I think that there is no doubt in that. "Marxist"-Leninists and other folks who deny this are just revising history to fit a narrative.
The whole "I believe in science" thing we've been seeing lately has been a particular sore spot for me. It's signaling just as much of a lack of understanding of what science is as the anti-scientific trends it is reacting to and, well-meaning or not, potentially just as dangerous with its uncritical approach.
I think verything that he said about that in the video is true, however the main idea that people who promote science over religion try to spread, is just that you should think by yourself and not take any belief for granted. This is very hard, so many people just say they believe in science without really thinking about what that means. What I'm trying to say is that the people he is talking about are not representative of the whole active atheist or even anti-theist community, and things they believe and try to say.
Aye but in a very different way, it's not immediately dangerous like say the anti-vaxer who spreads a virus. It's problematic in a more long term way in that it has people relying on faith without realising it.
@@eps200 Definitely, and that's the point I was implying. "I believe in science" is more likely to result in systemic problems that could eventually resolve into more material threats in the right circumstances while the results being "anti-science" generally are much more immediately material.
I don't "believe" in science, because science (as in, scientifically proven and verified models and phenomena, not as in the scientific method) doesn't need my belief to exist and it doesn't care about me believing in it. Apples will still fall from the trees even if I believe Newton to be mostly wrong.
I have the same exact thought about the other side, religion. Atheists often act like being on a higher level because they don’t believe and completely neglect the real philosophical and scientific implications religion through the ages tells us about the human mind. So much that I think of Atheists almost as another religious group completely different from my unbelieve and with all the weird fanatics
ayy I'm glad to be here
Me too UwU
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If the world ends, I’m just along for the ride
0:30 Someone who gets it. I was involved in my local punk scene and played gigs. I never wore the fashion for one reason: *_I will not be "anti-conformist" by conforming to something else._*
Too many punks try so hard to be punk that they forget to be themselves.
EXACTLY. Punk should be about identity and protecting that right to identity. Some punks who "try to hard" are truthfully being themselves, but still.
@@jaytrain3692 Of course some of the punks actually do like the fashion and everything, but a fair bit are definitely just "donning the uniform of anti-conformity." There are small things I do that are "stereotypical punk," but I almost avoid it... Because it feels like conforming.
Another big thing that I broke in the scene was my love of rave music. Most punks, or rock fans in general, just relentlessly bash it with no real criticism other than "it's not real music bro." It's gotten to the point I think of myself as a raver more, but both scenes have their snobby fucks, which makes me not want to identify with either.
I liked the late 90s and early 2000s stuff more and I couldn't care less about the hyper-commercialized BS nowadays. I get a little annoyed when I mention raving and I have to listen to yuppies gush over EDC, UMF, and other overpriced events with celebrity status DJs. Raving, and party scenes by extension, should be local and about community. Fuck meeting rich yuppies from the other side of the world that I'll never talk to again. LAME. Plus, DJing and lighting has never been easier so why even give a shit about the overpriced mainstream BS??? DIY OR DIE.
Pretentious rant over.
"Twelve lies about reality"
Like my romantic life?
R.I.P.
even the "romance" only lived for a while, you still have experienced it.
That one isn't worth mentioning as we all know that it's a lie
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at least you're honest it doesn't exist so it's not really a lie
I want to know more about Whatifalthist in a gender studies course. Thats just amusing.
Edit: Holy crap, over 500 likes, I think its time we take to the streets, and demand that WhatifAltHist tells us about his time in a gender studies class. That would be amazing.
use the reasoning form the video, men have two desires popularity and...
@@jakepeto2496 lol? Don't you think that's a bit closed minded?
I got my Associate's Degree in Sociology, and I had to take a gender studies course. It was a trip. :D
Asking the real questions here
@@jakepeto2496 Don't US college need credit in "social studies" for almost every degree? I'm not american but I've heard even STEM fields need to go do some of these to graduate.
me, watching from brasilia:
"damn. he roasted my city but he isn't wrong"
Same shit happened in Astana. Astana is city designed for working, not for living.
Small airport in Brasilia, but I picked up some souvenir stuffed piranhas for my nephew. Lots of swimming pools though, government town.
There is a reason Sim City is just a game.
@@stapleman007 this is fucking golden
As for the existence and relativeness of morality I really recommend books by Haidt. He did some wonderful research on moral intuitions. Morality is basically akin to diet. We can very easily intuit which stuff is healty/tasty and which is disgusting (and actually the same brain modules are responsible for both disgust and moral outrage), but there isn't a single "correct" diet and sometimes a "bitter disgusting pill" may turn out to be something necessary for health.
“My job is basically betting against god” has to be one of the funniest things I’ve heard in my entire life I wheezed
And then he said he's a religious person. What a strange guy. I'm tuned!
@@lucasharvey8990 yeah that part really through me off. He's easily one the smartest religious individuals I have seen in awhile.
@@danielstarr8957 Belief doesn’t make someone less likely to be intelligent.
@@No-xw7mo Belief most certainly is a good indicator of intelligence. I believe that what you really meant to say was "Religiousness does not determine intelligence" in which case I would wholeheartedly agree.
I love this guy.
You’ve hit the nail on this one: “nihilism is just cynical laziness”
same as most introverts just having avoidant personality disorder. It's all labels made to code other's behaviour.
@@sumkindacheeto nihilism is the corollary of atheist ennui.
@@jamestcatcato7132 I understand not a single word from that
@@Sednas nihilism, the social positioning of not beliving in anything, is the zenit(?, the highest point of non-believer... innue, which i also dont know
@@jamestcatcato7132
Not necessarily
Your section on pain and death being the worst things was excellent. You hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that the reason people fear death so much is because their lives have no meaning
Exactly.
It's odd that we would hold so dearly to something so meaningless.
Unless we all know, way down deep, that it DOES have meaning but we're too damn afraid to own it.
@@Jamesthemerciless exactly.
I actually fear death specifically because my life has meaning and the more life I have the more meaning I get to enjoy.
I really love how TH-cam gave us the opportunity to hear from people like you. Thank you for your time and effort man
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This is unbelievably good content I can’t believe it’s free. When I’m not completely broke I’ll support you in whatever way
Should I explain how TH-cam videos are not free? Probably. But not on TH-cam.
I an American so you KNOW I'm broke !
@@destyon9966 ?
@@andrew3203 No... you shouldn't.
@@geraldmeehan8942 makes no sense buddy. I’m American. I invested. I’m rich.
Arguing with Marxists has basically convinced me of everything said in this video; the denial of the primitive side of humanity, the black and white worldview being inherent to all ideologies, the fact that you can't derive moral objectivity from political theories or materialism, etc.
His arguments against Marxism in this video and his others are pretty weak. He almost always just argues "its been tried and never worked" and in this video literally says "I don't give a damn what Marx said". Shows a level of shallow reactionary thinking rather than engaging with the theories he disagrees with. No serious critic of Marxism would automatically dismiss Marx regardless of how they feel about Communism because he has an indisputably important influence on fields of study like economics, history and politics.
Ned I believe what you just did is called a no true Scotsman fallacy and it just furthers his point. Marxists are notorious for claiming to be scientific until it applies to their own ideological system. You would assume after multiple failed attempts that they would realize the reality of these policies vs their claims are clearly not lining up. But again they’ll just fall to the “no true Scotsman” fallacy and claim “not really communism/Marxism”. It’s hard to effectively scrutinize an ideology/world view that is so religious in nature because reality doesn’t matter to its adherents, much like other religions there is always a justification for what happened in order for it to fit within the boundaries of the ideology.
@@nedisahonkey calling opponents "reactionary" is a classic Marxist tactic, every communist regime has used that to discredit and silence opposition. Very much dismissive from your side.
Also, he uses Marxism as an illustration, you're free to disagree with the content of the comparison. But do you personally think that Marxism is scientific? Honestly, the scientific pretentions of Marxism deserve to be dismissed out of hand. If you know anything about the history of Marxism, you know it has little to do with science and that it's a rigid ideology with a pitch black past. It's motivated more by resentment than by compassion. You have to own your past. Contemporary Marxists usually prefer to ignore it.
@@nedisahonkey I think WhatifAltist has argued with enough Marxists to know they’re all just fallacious. He doesn’t need to put much effort into disproving it because it’s always so flagrantly illogical. It’s not his fault people like you haven’t escaped your own prisons.
@@nedisahonkey I have not read the works of Marx but how is “it’s been tried and never worked” a weak argument against a theory? Don’t you try I theory and if it doesn’t work then you need a new theory?
My favorite lie is “it is different this time.” It is never different this time. It is always the same. I do agree, however, that history does not repeat. Instead, it rhymes, which is why it all sounds the same but many of us do not see it.
Indeed. If you use the same recipe and ingredients you will always bake the same cake, no matter where or when you bake it. When I hear interlectuals preach failed philosophies and use the line 'keep trying to we get it right', you know they have no concept of reality, or of the people they claim to be helping.
Whether or not one believes in the Bible, Ecclesiastes runs true "There is nothing new under the sun".
@@blackbaron0 Marxism is so stupid that you don't even need to try it to know it will never work. You just need to look at the humans and grasp a bit of their natural tendencies. That idea is fundamentally flawed because it doesn't take into consideration human nature.
If you keep trying to implant it, then you are doing it for self-indulging purposes and you are absolutely evil, by definition.
@@monad_tcp marxism is against human nature? While Liberalism and capitalism is all about crushing the Poor to keep the wheel of profit rolling, These are the arguments eitehr liberals make or people who never ever studeid anything about Marxism, but instead come to conclusion by looking back at history, and bringing up nothing but authoritarianism of china (which is no way near to marxism, and even maosim) or USSR (which turned into a capitalist state in 1970s), take a look at your surroundings, everything is dying, Sky is not blue anymore, sun doesn't shine bright anymore, we live in an industrial era, being breeded like rats, to work, work for stupid amount of hours, south Korea just legalised 120 hours of work a week, which only gives you 6 hours of free time to travel, sleep, talk with your family and prosper, if you stop working and protest, they will replace you with a different person, like a machine, i call this the dark ages, Individualism and liberalism is just destroying our lives, we are nothing but a material, to fuel the machine of capitalism; Capitalism doesn't work either, just like utopian communism, we think it works, with the shining lights in the streets, freedoms we think we have, empty skyscrapers, humanity thrives on hope, and in my honest opinion Marxism is a solution, it is never been experimented well, socialist revolution should rise from a capitalist country, not the wastelands of China, and Feudal russia.
@@Pierre-lj4sq capitalism is the best method for advancing society, fighting poverty, and allowing for class mobility. Purported followers of Marxism have brought about more suffering, poverty, and death than any other force in history. You can know a tree by its fruit.
Capitalism, like any tree, can be susceptible to disease, poison, and pests. They can corrupt the tree, cause it to not produce fruit, and even kill it. Capitalism works, but it must be tended to by a diligent and honest gardener. Unfettered capitalism runs wild like blackberry vines. It's full of pricks and though it provides delicious fruit, it will do so inefficiently and with more bloodletting than necessary.
Spot on! "If we villify all successful people, what motivation do we have to do great things?"
Something i read years ago that has always stuck with me,
No matter how doomed or certain an outcome may seem, remember, smarter men have been wrong about things that seemed more obvious
Good quote
damn
And as well, far stupider persons have been right about things that appeared far more complex.
the worst lie is that Pepsi actually had a navy from the Soviet Union in the 80s.
Well technically they had, it just wasn't anywhere near operational.
@@aronbruno327 No, they never had the ships delivered, it was just a proposal.
@@directorsupremodelriodelap6422 yeah
I love history but I don't want to study it because apparently there are many essays to write.
I'm different I love history and enjoy writing so I'm studying history
@@josephstalin974 I don't mind writing but I hate essays. I'm more of a person who prefers creative writing.
@Heberth R. a course. I heard that in history you have to write many essays.
Its a weird one yes like I've skipped history class to read about history or watch history documentaries/videos which seems counterintuitive but I don't really enjoy school history lessons
@Heberth R. don't let me discourage you. It may differ in countries
Your note on science as a belief structure struck a chord with me. Having rotated through several religions in an attempt to find a belief structure that works for me, including scientism and atheism, I came to the conclusion that the human mind has a requirement for spiritual belief to explain things that are just outside our ability to understand. Even if there are answers within society, a single person simply can't contain the breadth of experience to rationally explain everything that happens, no matter how much they might want to do so.
At the same time, it is true that a lot of these belief structures actively exploit this to indoctrinate their adherents while also guiding them. Or rather, the inherent corruption that comes with being in a position of power in an institution meant to shape people's beliefs. My conclusion essentially became that it's important to have a spiritual grounding, but the failing of most heavily structured religions is the idea that you can "give" a rigid ethical framework to someone and have them take it as-is, despite that being a subjective set of beliefs. From a cultural unity standpoint this is ultimately pragmatic, but from a mental health standpoint it can do a lot of damage. For my part, I believe it is important to provide people the tools to make those connections on their own terms. Essentially teaching as-is but not holding people to dogma and doctrine under pain of hell or what have you, as belief structures inherently require compromise to moderate differing groups within a society.
16:25 Homer Simpson has a house, two cars, three kids and a wife who can doesn't have to work and can stay home. Sure he hates his job, but Homer is making bank.
Homer's life is pretty good. I'd take that.
I hate my job, sadly I can't have the same standard of living as Homer. I would rather work a hated job if I could afford the things I like.
@@MasterGhostf Unfortunately, we're working like dogs, just to stay alive. The younger generations have it right: If you can't make enough to attract a wife, no matter how hard you work, and you can survive working as little as possible, hard work becomes the realm of suckers.
With the money from the job I hate, I couldn't get a "wife" for more than 2 hours per week, could not afford a single child, move out of my parent's place or get a car.
D'oH!
“This doesn’t take into account how weak the human brain is. There are often more variables we don’t know about, and we often don’t value the importance of variables correctly” - spot on, and relevant to every mainstream political debate today.
Holding back technology is good, look at what happens when technology came?
@@1mol831 more people getting better medical attention ? poor and middle class getting better life treatment compared to the last 5 millenia ? products becoming super cheap comapred to before thanks to industrialization ? people being able to exchange ideas for free with others from the other side of the world for free , thanks to the internet ? LMAO
@@Dan_Kanerva Yea, exchanging ideas might be fun, but at the same time ideas are being enforced.
Products being super cheap is a lie, look at how the cost of land has skyrocketed.
Poor and middle class getting better life treatment? Stop joking, modern day poor and middle class do not really have access to good quality medical attention without spending a fortune, and people in the past get sick less often as the food they eat is more natural and less polluted and they are able to enjoy a more active lifestyle.
Overall the world is getting worse.
@@1mol831
Our usual problems got way bigger blowback now?
@@1mol831 the world is more united
People are living in more comfort than ever before in history and despite the fact that the world looks shitty to us we are living in the most peaceful era of human history so far. Technology also allows us to communicate with people long distance and has done so many good things i cant even list them all
When talking about humanity's future, saying we are going to have wars, famine, plague etc - is like saying there's going to be humans in Earth in future.
I didn't know you were an optimist!
Hi! 👋💀👍
There you go betting against God again.
what if we broke the cycle? When has an event like the industrial revolution happened before?
@@AverageAlien I think this is rather unrealistic as as long as we still feel anger we will desire to do awful things
@@AverageAlien the industrial revolution is "just" a technological progress that changed the human society. Which happened before multiple times. There are enough technological "revolutions", because it was more like an evolution. Even the first campfire that was used to cook meat was like a "industrial revolution" but with way slower spreading, that led to a higher survival rate, higher living standard, bigger brains... You could say that we are right now in a kind of Big Data revolution and so on.
Damn This was really good
I know right?
Haha mate it was indeed ! Had to double check ! Wasn't expecting Beau the hammer doc in the comment !
I've been on youtube for about 9 years and this is one of the top 3 videos I agree with most
the other two?
Dude said "...The main point of life--suffering."
Dostoyevsky: "Hey back off my ride man, get you're own."
Wasn't the Budha the one who said it first?
oh yeah plenty have beat ol' Dosto - just that Dosto did it better
@@transforgoku From what I remember Buddha didn’t come up with it, he was told it or heard it or something like that, not sure if I’m right.
@@donquesewilliamswilliams3497 I believe that it was he starved under a tree for weeks or something and then had a eureka moment where he realised life is just pain. I imagine the starvation helped him realise that.
@@princepartee725 more importantly, it helped him lose weight
This video is more informative than 12 years of US public school.
I want to join to
That isn't saying much.
the goal of public school is to make good factory workers. critical thinking and artistic thoughts are not helpful in that context.
@@FazeParticles Back in the 1970's, the powers that be decided to send most manufacturing overseas. The main purpose of "education" since then has been to beat down those who are creative and rebellious. Only those who obediently perform tedious, low grade clerical work get graduate.
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U It depends. Those who succeed extremely well and do good at schools also become the driving forces of society. School is a test of dependence and consistence. Some direct their energy to other projects while some do school and their projects, while some may only go to school for the sake of it. American education is very lenient, we must make the choices of where we go. For all i've seen, they bend over for the ghetto and actually rebellious in schools.
You are impressive! the depth and breadth of your knowledge, your ability to communicate it, at your age, is difficult to overstate. It’s humbling and inspiring.
I feel like this video explains in painful detail why humans need myth *and* history. Two views, simultaneously. We need history to teach us the results of insanity. Myth teaches us what sanity is.
how do myths teach us what sanity is?
@@sleepybraincells Sanity is seeing the world for what it is and resolving to make it better. That's what the Hero does. Myth also teaches us by counterpoint. Insanity is seeing how bad the world is and resolving to make it worse. That's the villain.
Why does the villain so often reflect the hero? Because the reader is both villain and hero.
That's the most absolutely basic level.
The hierarchy of gods shows us what various people's thought the highest order of virtues to embrace was and showed us that virtues and human structures must be ordered to survive the chaos and suffering of mere existence.
And the stories of those who sacrificed themselves for the good of all tell us that the sane and good response to wickedness and evil is to be willing to lay down your life to make the world better. To embrace suffering and not flinch from it in your pursuit of all that is good. To sacrifice everything on the altar of goodness.
Without myth it might seem strange that the sane approach to life includes the willingness to die. But without that hardness, life is floppy and meaningless and those who live without the hardness to endure the suffering of existence are twisted up into crooked, corrupt things.
@@LeifMaelstrom Thanks for the explanation
Myths and symbolism is the way ancient peoples personified "the human condition," in many ways.
If you get down to it and actually understand the symbolism, it's very introspective and can be enlightening. Problem is many people read these myths and take it way too literally. Especially since much of the symbolism has become outdated.
@@urphakeandgey6308 Thank you for explaining more clearly than I was able to.
Francis Fukuyama's book 'The End of History' must be the biggest lie about reality there ever was.
well ppl just like to think that the time they live in is the most epic, and is the age to end all ages, but the truth is that big events always happen, be it wars, famines, plagues. historians are the ones who sort out the pieces of such events
Even fukuyama isn't a fukuyamaist anymore. The left however completely bought the idea that history had ended.
What exactly does the book argue?
@@Joleyn-Joy They have? Most leftists I see seem convinced that the revolution is right around the corner. Unless by "leftist" you mean the neoliberal elites on Twitter or CNN, who are basically all just shills for their corporate overlords, and will occasionally virtue signal about some vague progressive nonsense, but otherwise have no interest in challenging the status quo.
@@nikolayvladimirov8633 The book argued that history had essentially ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, because western liberalism had been proven as the only legitimate system of government.
26:25 "It's so much easier just to flagellate ourselves in our depression and gain the narcissism of feeling so much smarter than everyone else, that we're beyond reality and have figured it all out"
Great quote, definitely an idea I've dealt with in the past myself. However, I need to acknowledge that I still have important things ahead of me.
Extraordinarily late to the party, but I wanted to take a moment to thank you for this insightful, well- researched and well- presented, thought provoking video. My first introduction to the idea of questioning reality came early, perhaps 50 years ago. Since then, I have struggled with many of the falsehoods of reality, and you have helped me to better understand my actions, motivations and the culture in which I live. Well done sir. Thank you again.
You are not questioning reality. You are searching for reality through the propaganda you have been told all your life. Postmodernism is the greatest lie ever perpetrated by academia on the general population.
i believe that this channel's purpose is about showing off how smart you can become just by reading books.
Same dude, but even with all those books, he still makes bad arguments that at a deeper dive don't hold up.
Books, videos like this one and acess to the internet is everything that you need to become a genius. You can prove that by seeing the courses jn harvard changing to those techs alone
@@truther249 like what?
@@truther249can you give some examples?
@@sbura_ @cao russo That morality exists. That science can't decide all of those things for a person who is scientific. The fact he claims a person can't argue that something is true because Marx said it is also quite hypocritical given that he has picked only books that follow the belief he is sharing (I'm not a Marxist just saying). I mean I could dissect and argue forever in this comment if I wanted to but that doesn't matter because it's still good content but understand that this is not a "top 11 fact" most of this is based on his perspective and he is showing where he got this info. A lot of those sources have very good counter-sources that an individual wouldn't be wrong in picking and he never really shares this except for the section justifying the logical conclusions that nazis, unfortunately, came to. It's a great video but I think he also expects people to research these things on their own but it's youtube so I'm pretty sure the majority won't and it's a shame he doesn't somehow give that message in a better way.
I love how every criticism against nihilism I've ever seen is basically doubling down on the nihilism. You're not proving nihilism wrong. You're just creating a new interpretation of it.
I have used nihilism to defeat nihilism.
Nihilism is very tricky to argue against, basically the only argument against it is "there is objective inherent meaning in the universe" and people just don't buy that.
We kinda generally agree that the world has no objective meaning, so nihilism is mainstream.
Your only escape is the optimist nihilism, like Camus with his theory of The Absurd, saying that we humans are in a constant struggle against the universe because we search for meaning in a meaningless world. And optimist nihilism is basically looking at that fact and going "you know what, imma care about stuff anyway, I'll live in spite of the meaningless world, and make my own."
In the case of the art argument shown early on, the need to emulate photo realism diminishes with the large scale availability of photography tech. After having exact images becomes instantaneous (relatively), patrons no longer seek out talented portraiture or landscape artists because all that can be had in a moments notice for a fraction of the price. As such the move towards more impressionistic imagery and concepts begins with these trained individuals no longer being sought out for large sums to depict photo realistic imagery and instead focus their intention on other matters. To say that photo realistic painting has disappeared is no more than a lie; as it’s still around (for the right price) but it’s no longer as popular because patrons (whoever it might be) don’t seek what can be achieved by cheaper and faster means. Now if you’re not fond of contemporary art thats fine, the art you seek will always exist and if not make it or sponsor someone who will.
Also, punks generally believe in total self expression, they do however draw the line at discriminatory beliefs and oppressive sentiments (thats y nazi punks are hated by the movement and right wing ‘punks’ are antithetical in the eyes of some). So a monarchist would largely be smashed out in any punk circles generally because of their desire to see singular rule. On top of that the biggest misconception about the punk movement is that their entire ethos is contrarianism instead of contrarianism in the face of structural oppression (see the 80’s CA punk movement in retaliation to Reaganism). Hell with this definition rural 19th century American folk music can be punk and all of jazz, rap, other forms of rock as well which is the idea in general, for it not to be attached to the rock scene exclusively but rather a be sentiment.
Yeah I don't know what modern art has to do with moral relativism...
Contemporary non figurative art is not cheaper than figurative art. Also patreons see what they do as investment, either for future higher value of the works or social investment. Much of the point of modern art is as investment.
@@andrewsauer2729 He's talking about relativism in general. The idea that there is no truth and thus no standards. The problem with his applying it to modern art is that the popularity/value of different art forms is (to use his own words) driven not by logic but by intangibles.
I think what he is trying to say can be better understand via contemporary classical music. Where currently because the believe of no objectivity in music, music that sound like plane crash is highly regarded by contemporary musicians just because they are new and don’t follow any existing melodies but no one listen to them. And new music that sounds nice and use old melodies are frowned upon.
My uncle Hajo Holborn, PhD, was a professor of History at Yale for 30 years before he fled Nazi Germany. He later became the president of the American Historical Assn. He wrote a number of books that would interest any who value the work of Rudyard. Hajo predicted much of the issues in the Euro continent and was a historical cultural expert who was a consultant to Truman in the post war years. My professor, Peter F. Drucker, PhD, was an Austrian and prolific writer of business strategy who said, "Culture eats strategy for breakfast." Rudyard's commentary on culture and the world in which we live in, is in such a mixed up state, should be highly regarded - or else any endeavor one entertains to improve the world we live in.. is destined to dismal failure... Culture is everything. JCH
Whatifalthist: Makes philosophy video
Me: “A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.”
I don’t necessarily agree with everything in this video, but you have made me think a lot more and I appreciate your perspectives. Great video 👍
I disagree with most of this video, and appreciate how this guy is unapologetically a dick about it 👍
yeah, a lot of it was obviously influenced by his religious beliefs which kinda sucks; he also lacks self-awareness lol.
@@kevincabrera6259 Being influenced by specific lines of thought isn't really an issue as this necessarily has to have happened for you to have opinions about huge historical topics that you have no first hand experience of. The potential problem would be blatant bias which I don't think he exhibits in this video.
@@joewesterland5697 lol
@@kevincabrera6259 Ah yes, because your view of history is the true narrative and hasn't been influenced by anyone
This is extremely optimistic!
That moment when I’m not alone coming out optimistic with this video
Yeeeeees, it almost reminds me of Monty Python...
I can out neutral from this video.
Why when i say the world one day whould be end the people takes that like something bad, but if i say the world never stop of develop and evolutionate the people automatically thinks in that like something good? both things are true but apparently if i say one of those things the people thinks than it's good or bad, why happen? what it's what makes than the people seeing something like optimistic?
Your videos are absolute treasures. Thank you so much.
So happy I have found this channel. I've thought a lot about these topics as well and I often feel isolated due to none of my peers caring or falling into these lies about reality. Thank you for making the content you make and contributing to free thought.
Find videos that Charlene your believes and biases. Watching videos that align with them won't help you grow. This guys filled with his biases that he passes off as facts.
@@LookzA as everyone does. Got any that say the opposite you could link me to?
Actually one of the best and most worth-thinking-about-videos I've ever seen on TH-cam, thanks for this :)
Yes, he's very good, but his live stuff keeps getting deleted.
Seems like the Powerful don't dig what he has to say.
"If someone tells you that he knows how to solve every problem and who's responsible for all things bad they're lying either to you, or to themselves"
- my grandpa
“The wisest man knows he knows nothing.” - Socrates
Or both
Words to live by. Thanks for sharing.
grandpas have the smartes words to say. my grandpa said: end the end of the day lazy people will work more and cheap people will lose more
Centrist propaganda. Sometimes we can identify the persons responsible for acts, even if not every time. It's morally wrong to not do anything about it if you know who caused it. We should strive to act.
I put off watching this until today, but Thanksgiving is an appropriate holiday for hearing this. Great message! 🦃
0:08 bruh where can I find friends like that.
I also want to know
Rather easily here
Same
A good university, a history club, an online forum dedicated to history, etc. Remember the best way to make a friend is to be a friend.
@@jgacton2703 i'll remember that one mate
20:10 You're forgetting the Mongol burning of Baghdad and its libraries, which dealt a major blow to the Arabic intelligentsia, while copies of several of these burned books mainly existed in Europe.
Yes that happens when the only knowledge you have is that researched by cultures that came before you while the only thing your "muslim scholars" and "muslim scientists" study is Quran and Hadiths. For those that don't know the only thing these muslim books have in them is what Muhammad said and did and what his followers said and did. They are basically history books. That's all muslim world studies and focuses on. "Muslim scientist" is focusing to memorize Quran to the letter and that's biggest progress in muslim world. On one side you have Albert Einstein who found Atoms which changed world forever gave us Nuclear Energy and Weapons or Tesla that came up with AC Power that is reason we even have electrical devices and technology we have today on other side we got random Ahmad from Lahore that memorized Quran by reading it over and over. Like only for braindead person it would be hard to understand why there can never be any scientific progress or advancments in muslim world. There are secular muslim countries that are able to balance between two and do something but they are always under constant threat from radicals from hordes of teenage Abduls thirsting for those virgins they read about and now wanna bring revolution and turn their country into another Afghanistan or Lybia.
Just like how "Christians scholars" study the bible, and "physicists" study physics. All these words to say nothing... Also, Einstein did not "find" the atom, and tesla did not invent Alternative current.
Bro shut up if you don't know anything don't talk. Ibn Al-haytham literally invented science as we know it today and he wasn't less than a Muslim living hundreds of years ago. Beside of Ibn Al-haytham there was many other muslim chads like Al-Chawarsmi bro he invented algebra and algorithm and many other stuff without him Internet wouldn't exist you stupid little ass kid who takes science as God and doesn't know that Believers in God invented it.
@@abcdc197 you generalise the middle east by your superior not knowing nothing in self experience about being in that situation yourself if you had bombs and bullets flying over your head constantly and your family dissapearing and dying don't you think you would either be batshit sitting in your Stockholm or armed to the teeth with a resistance fighting what could or could not be a regime you try living in a poor part or even a rich part of the middle east and Isreal doesn't count because isreal is not a real place
@@abcdc197 I see you haven’t researched more about Muslim scientists, eg who Al-Khwarizmi is and what he did
In the current environment, some people say "follow the science" actually mean follow the "political science".
politics in modern society are just a replacement for religion
Every side, no matter who they are, uses science to justify their worldview. You and I do it too.
It's making sure that we approach the topic scientifically, in other words, going out of our way to prove our hypothesis wrong. And not "using science" to prove it right.
@@asongeveryday holy shit dude your right, that's the best description of modern politics I've ever heard unironically , I've always had a weird feeling about today's politics and you just put my thoughts into words better than I ever could
I hate when people say "trust the science", as it's some sort of religion.
The development of science has occurred thanks to people doubting and testing what was accepted as science.
I imagine people telling to Galileo, "follow the science", "trust the science."
Yeah, following the science mostly means trusting whoever paid the scientists to try to prove what they want to prove.
Some people use science like fundamentalist religious people use their holy book to justify everything.
I think I may have been too dismissive of the 'suggested videos' algorithm. Great stuff. Smart, honest and entertaining. Please continue.
Good video. The people who need to watch this video won't watch it.
So true
what an irony
I still blieve that my life has no meaning but a like this videos anyways
@@christopheralejandromezapa8934 Well, found the depressed nihilist
@@leto.o5759 well I think he's kinda right... Unless the fate of an empire or somthing similar to that is in my hands, I don't really think that my life has that much meaning tbh
Ideas for videos
What if Rome converted to Judaism instead of Christianity? (Jews actually did a lot of proselitism between III and V century, and their religion became quite popular in the Empire)
What if Persia remained Zoroastrian?
What if none won WW1?
What if the great schism never happened?
What if the Taiping rebellion succeeded?
Considering Zoroastrianism survived. Persians should've won war against mußlim forces. So there will be no paper transfer to Europe. The Abbasid caliphate controlled large area where they got indian,greek, Persian sciences combined and advanced scientific discoveries.so no science. Islam wouldn't have become dominant religion
@@gamehacker2801 just because one caliphate only gets 2/3rds of this science triforce that (from your comment) seems to exist, doesn't mean that there is no science. And Islam probably could still be a dominant religion, it would just have to expand in other directions. :)
@@gamehacker2801 Exactly. The so called Islamic Golden Age is actually the Islamic Age of Conquest. Islam in itself has nothing meaningful to offer to anyone seeking empirical knowledge. It was only because they conquered and appropriated the scientific and scholarly achievements of the Greeks, Persians, Babylonians, Romans, Indians, Chaldeans etc that the muslims were able to create a so called "golden age."
Europe rose to pre-eminence following the Enlightenment and the Renaissance and became increasingly more scientifically advanced and militarily powerful over the centuries, the Islamic world faded into the oblivion in which it now finds itself.
@@gamehacker2801 Turks would convert Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrian Ottomans. Really cool
@@thebeatnumber Bruh that's ridiculous. Just like the renaissance thinkers, islamic scientists started with the greek and roman texts and thinkers and built off them. Also why don't persian scientists count as part of the islamic world?
Blame the mongols for destroying baghdad and the house of wisdom.
I was going to viciously disagree with "logical=correct" is a lie, but after listening to the section, you got me to agree. Mostly because I think when you are talking about "logical" here, you refer to people who take one bit of information and try to create a whole argument and try to pass off their logical conclusion as overall "logic" which is a strain of stupidity plaguing our current society. I do still believe logic=correct, but only when applied in a way that takes several different factors into account that lead to an outcome that could evolve with new factors. When you decide what outcome you want, then try to use logic to get there, you are not really using logic. The quote that really hooked me to your stance is "under certain circumstances, irrationality is good" because that is so true, what sounds irrational to a person, group or society might just be holding them back from true logic.
Operating on a false assumption necessarilly invalidates the conclusions drawn from it as well, even if the method itself was correct. That doesn't mean the method itself is flawed.
I think on that part that while there is definitely a completely logical approach to everything, it is not in the humans grasp to find or even understand it. Together with religion I believe this is the god of the modern world, the deeper logic of this world, unable to grasp and only quantifiable through religion, philosophy or ideology
@roasted pancakes I mean, A-->B is actually defined as (¬A∨B), so that doesn't quite work, but yes, assuming that a false thing is true will always yield a wrong argument.
what is the origin of the reason?
@roasted pancakes Well, because it's defined that way. (A-->B) is propositional calculus, specifically material implication and that's the replacement rule.
While you are correct in that one can't simply reverse the contraposition, this is entirely irrelevant here, seeing as I did no such thing in the first place.
But to give a more extensive explanation: (¬A∨B) is true if A and B are true, as B has to be true if A is true, and it is true if A is false, since if A is false, you're not making a statement about B, so any valuation of B is correct.
You had me at "philosophy generally annoys me"
Truth hurts.
"Philosophy annoys me"
Thats a mark of a philosopher
"Philosophy actually generally annoys me" As soon as I heard that I knew I was in for a decent video from a decent philosopher. I haven't heard anything worth hearing from anyone truly energized about the field. Please keep up your good work sir.
Every person i met that has studied philosophy in academia or knows a lot about it from studies in history. Every single one of these people find it annoying
philosophy annoys only people too dumb to understand
@@kingdodongo4126 i kinda agree with that, but I'm on the fence.
Philosophy has it's place. It create the question so someone els can find the answer.
I'd think that when people claim they dislike a whole field like philosophy, they really have a problem with just some aspects of it and not the whole concept. For example, if you say you hate math, you probably don't cringe and moan everytime you do a quick, simple little addition in your head, or see a golden ratio manifesting in nature, or engage intuitively in logical thinking. Instead, maybe you dislike rigid practices you were taught in school about math, or maybe you've met some arrogant math students that think they're above other people since they're doing "the smartest thing" or something like that. I assume it's similar case with philosophy, maybe people dislike something in the academical side or have suffered from poor conversations regarding philosophy.
As an Architect, I know the story of Brasilia all too well, we were taught this (as well as many Modernist nightmare examples like Pruitt Igo etc) as why central macro and micro planning in urban design flat out does not work.
Central planning really means “fascist state”
@@Danaluni59 Central planning in urban terms not political terms, as in planning the roads and streets, electrical lines, pipes etc - you need SOME central urban planning
I agree, but after the lines and infrastructure are drawn up, space has to be left for a community to build itself and it’s own cultural identity. My home town of Hayward CA is easy to drive through, but no one comes here for fun; whereas San Francisco is a nightmare to drive through, but there’s no where else like it.
The sentence "Truth doesn't exist" is a paradox. If the truth really doesn't exist, that makes the idea that "truth doesn't exist" a truth itself.
I never considered myself a fan of learning philosophy, I’ve tried to get into it time and time again, but his videos never ceases to get me hooked on it.
My dad coming back after 12 years to get milk.
Dude this whibba gave me a brain blast and the opposite of an midlife crisis. I feel better and in an overall better mood about life after watching this
@Don't Be you are the person who tells people how their meme about Isaac Newton inventing gravity is scientifically and historically inaccurate
@Don't Be you just proved his point
@Don't Be I like how you are so uptight that when you use sarcasm it sounds more straight forward than when you are being honest
2:38 This is perhaps the scariest frame that I've seen since I discovered this channel:
It perfectly highlights that the most terrifying part about what's coming _isn't_ that shit's gonna hit the fan hard; the _really_ scary part is that as bad as it's gonna get, it's _still_ not even the worst that has befallen us in history...
It carries the same existential dread that comes from that one story Ronald Reagan told about how he and another Republican were talking to a Cuban refugee and listening to all of the horrors of Castro's regime, and when the other guy commented about how lucky the two of them were to not live under such tyranny, the refugee replied with an even _more_ horrifying thought:
"How lucky _you_ are? At least _I_ had someplace to flee to."
This was an excuse to brag about having friends, don't lie
You might be onto something.
2:45 Wow Los Angeles will cover all of the Earth in 2500 years? That is horrifying, I don't want to be homeless.
then work harder and don't be homeless. Being homeless is always the fault of the homeless person. Society isn't here to hold your hand
@@AverageAlien holy shhhhhit this is something a 16 year old would day
@River "Society isn't here to hold your hand"
that is literally the entire point of society. to come together and help each other for the collective good of all. If we didn't give people a helping hand, we'd be living in the purge, not even hunter gatherers and literal wild animals are dumb enough to actually believe that.
And you don't believe it either, it's just a convenient phrase that allows you to sound righteous and powerful while what you actually believe in and are saying is "i don't owe you a helping hand because your suffering doesn't affect me"
edit: that was supposed to be a reply to the guy you replied to, mb
Culture is extremely important and feeling a part of a community is the main factor in happiness. Better yourself then help your community/family and you'll be happy (99% guarantee lol)
Well said
I would only add one thing to that: settle down and have a family. The loneliness I see so many people in their 30s-50s experiencing rn is devastating!!
@@westonmatthews5501 True many sacrifice having a family for their career. But humans aren't a one size fit all, some people are better off never having children tbh
I might be that %1.
I have been bettering myself and helping my family and community all my life, and I keep finding myself unhappy.
Meanwhile I find, if not happiness and fulfilment, then feeling good, in selfish pursuits.
Having a family I know requires sacrifice, giving your happiness. I don't bemoan this idea and for all I know I could be envious of the people who find satisfaction in family.
But for me, I dislike things about my family, my upbringing, and with not a proper amount of happiness within me, raising a family with the idea to extract happiness from it I know would be disastrous. I don't want to put myself through that, or anyone else.
So here I am, with the things that most people find meaningful: holding next to zero purpose to me, what do I do?
How would that be anything other then a false sense of fulfilment ?
True, it makes me furious when people around me allow themselves to become nihilistic or irrationally negative.
Suffered from severe depression for 1/3 of my lifetime. For a literal survivor like me, it is injury to insult. I will be tolerant, but it always reminds me how dangerous it is to let yourself let go of meaning.
Have a Vision, have a plan. Your life is only a journey, if you don't turn it into a process. If you don't take control, you will be pushed around.
A game-changer, for me, was reading the book "Virtue of Selfishness" by Ayn Rand.
I think everyone should have a really dark period of being nihilistic before they can rise from the ashes and become an übermensch, it seems that’s your case, not saying you’re an übermensch though.
@@shakey3306 what people should really do start valuing themselves. Start evaluating what they're priorities are and why they are. Ones people start prioritising themselves over everything. They can escape delusions and have real meaning.
Some edgy 13 yos are like “positive nihilism is better”
People start seeing nihilism as philosophy than a mental state which is just delusion. Not having meaning in life isn't “truth” but a state..
This channel really is a gift that keeps on giving. Please continue to diversify your content since your attempts so far have been fantastic and of high quality.
Finally I heard someone else critique the phrase "I believe in science". Like you said, science is a method. It's not a collection of facts and ideas. It's a way to continually refine our understanding of the natural world. It is not a static thing.
Your wrong
Science is both a methodology and a collection of Data.
What this guy is saying is that science can’t give humans oughts. Science, both the method and the data, can tell us that climate change is happening and what it will affect, but science can’t tell us how to address the problem or even if we should care. That was his point.
They mean to say that they believe in objective truth, which is what science aims for. There is an inherent philosophy in the statement that you've obviously missed due to some form of bias on your part.
@@Chris-es3wf You not need believe in science for believing in objective true.
@@robertcastel1565 i was just about to say this, nice
Honestly the most important thing is the “if I knew my own biases I wouldn’t have them” a lot of your other stamens seemed biased from my point of view and I’m sure mine would seem biased to yours
His video is INSANELY biased, this shit is White Supremacist lite.
@@timothycobb7702 Can you explain further?
Yeah, some of the language this guy used definitely gave me a bad impression. Still a fun video though
@@timothycobb7702 stop lying deliberately. Wrong on all accounts.
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 "On all accounts," I guess you cannot Google? There are several links you can follow, so your shitty use of using an absolute makes it clear you wrong, even if I'd told a single lie - makes it clear where you stand and how intellectually honest and dialogue with you would be.
Just found you and I love your content! Your brain and verbal ability are awesome.
This channel has some of the sharpest thinking and worst spelling, lol. Love the vids, man keep 'em coming.
Worst spelling? Where
SAME
I really wish I knew this guy in real life, he seems like he would be an interesting person to have a conversation with.
Same
Yep
Nah, he talks too fast and wouldn't let you get a word in. I've had too many friends like that already.
@@chrisbanion lol, know that person, I think I am that person.
That said, you are probably correct, two people like that probably wouldn't get along.
The party doesn’t Start until he gets there🍄..💀
Finally! Someone else who understands the importance of public executions.
Torturing people to death in public would greatly increase morale! Think about flaying a jaywalker alive in front of a cheering crowd and throwing his skinless remains to a bunch rabid wild boars to finish off the job. Sounds overkill but that would be the end of jaywalking in that town. Liberals have ruined civilization by pampering criminals.
I resisted watching this video for months for no reason, and now I see that you said everything I ever thought before and I loved it.