The US Government Program That Pays For Your Flights

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  • @Wendoverproductions
    @Wendoverproductions  4 ปีที่แล้ว +531

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    • @practice00
      @practice00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Still no Android app for Nebula?

    • @ivarne
      @ivarne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why can't I see this video () on Nebula now without the curiosity/nebula ad?

    • @honajtransit
      @honajtransit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :)

    • @ramseykeilani9569
      @ramseykeilani9569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It would've been nice if the environmental impact of the program was mentioned, considering how terrible flying is from an emissions standpoint, and how much emissions must be generated from all those near-empty flights.

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This the one in like Ethiopia?

  • @tealmer3528
    @tealmer3528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +587

    How do airline alliances (oneworld, SkyTeam, Star Alliance) work? It would be a great vid!

    • @futureqweenofmoderation6024
      @futureqweenofmoderation6024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Van Quan As well as bookings via the airlines main site like booking on KoreanAir from Seoul to NYC with a layover in LAX your LAX-JFK flight would be Delta Airlines while you’re Seoul to LAX flight would be KA

    • @aadil05_h
      @aadil05_h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      "The Logistics of Airline Alliances"

    • @jasoncentore1830
      @jasoncentore1830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They basically have ticketing agreements and since they have a partnership they can expand their destinations and you can connect l from 1 airline to the Code Share partner seemless, baggage, boarding passes etc. A good example. AA SAN-LAX when connecting you would go BA LAX-LHR. This makes the ticket price the same if you took 1 carrier. Separate tickets would be about 5x's higher. As far as $$ the airlines negotiate rates for code sharing. I used to work for the Tariff department for AA so I used to calculate some of these outrageous fares. There is a lot more that goes into it, but way over my pay grade

  • @jonas1015119
    @jonas1015119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1846

    10:57 ok now I want a video on disused US government buildings. Theres gotta be some wild stuff there

    • @ocfos88
      @ocfos88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      There. are. so. many.

    • @scotthenrie5674
      @scotthenrie5674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yes, there are. Have you ever seen any of the orgy videos? They're all filmed in those buildings.

    • @Asdayasman
      @Asdayasman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@scotthenrie5674 I haven't. Got any links?

    • @MentalEdge
      @MentalEdge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@scotthenrie5674 I'd google orgy videos, but that doesn't feel like a good idea for some reason.

    • @B3Band
      @B3Band 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      You'll only get a video like that if a building has ever interacted with an airpl....oh....

  • @spicemasterii6775
    @spicemasterii6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Everyone: memorizes state capitals.
    Wendover: memorizes towns with commercial airport in every state.

  • @FingeringThings
    @FingeringThings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +934

    Me: Books a seat on a plane
    United Airlines: It’s free real estate

    • @colonelkk
      @colonelkk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Me: Books seat on a plane
      United Airlines: Your real estate was already bought. GET OUT!

    • @kirkc9643
      @kirkc9643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Me: This 'format' of 'commenting' on YT videos is getting old,, tired and cringey.
      Also Me: Especially when the same 'comments' show up again and again.

    • @_egg_2933
      @_egg_2933 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KKK, oh that took me back cuh

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically, CommutAir, dba United Express.

    • @glasslinger
      @glasslinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So quit reading them! DUH!

  • @adamstinger1717
    @adamstinger1717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    Sees Wendover has a new plane video.
    *tightens tourniquet*
    I need my fix

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Private Companys need a fix - taxpayers money.

    • @zeruzio1345
      @zeruzio1345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Planes in the veins!

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Planespotting.

  • @pinkyfull
    @pinkyfull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    "Town of 30,000"
    Well that makes some of my countries smaller cities essentially squat little towns internationally speaking.

    • @MrPhilsterable
      @MrPhilsterable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      There are also a lot of communities in the rural U.S. that have populations less than 100. Hell, 42,000 is the size of the largest city in Wyoming, 48,000 is the size of the largest city in West Virginia, 63,000 in Wyoming, and on and on. Only six states have even a single city with over a million people in it. People really underestimate how sparsely populated the U.S. is.

    • @Annadog40
      @Annadog40 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MrPhilsterable Wyoming must of multipled

    • @jnyerere
      @jnyerere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MrPhilsterable Exactly! Plus with cities like Phoenix and San Antonio, they're essentially giant suburbs with the ridiculous amount of spread-out land being the major contributor to their high population, not density.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrPhilsterable Cheyenne has 65,000 people. Not sure where you are getting the 42,000 figure, or why Wyoming was mentioned twice.

    • @danielfay8963
      @danielfay8963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jnyerere To be fair, Phoenix is actually a really highly populated city (~1.6mil), but then the surrounding suburbs take up an absolutely enormous area.

  • @tc0330
    @tc0330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I used to be a Captain for Air Choice One. Great way to gain flight experience for new commercial pilots. We had a few empty legs, but the ATL flights were always full. Our shortest flight was FOD-MCW at 53 nautical miles. It’s about a 40 minute flight or a 1.5 hour drive airport to airport according to Apple Maps. The EAS program has been on the chopping block for decades since its inception in the late 1970’s. Regional airlines do still operates some of these EAS routes in larger airplanes like the CRJ-200s and EMB-145s mentioned. The Presque Isle flight is operated by CommutAir on behalf of United Airlines in the EMB-145, for example.

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Demand for flights in small towns is even smaller when you consider that most of those people have never been more than two hours away from their town, let alone left the country.

  • @ma3rabima3rabi13
    @ma3rabima3rabi13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +628

    Employer: So tell me, why would you want to be the CEO of this airport?
    Me: I know everything that is to know about planes
    Employer: How are you so sure of that?
    Me: I Watched all of Wendover Production video's
    Employer: You're hired.

    • @jk-gb4et
      @jk-gb4et 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Production's videos*

    • @yaboicash6666
      @yaboicash6666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      cats and fruits ok

    • @erenozcilingir5918
      @erenozcilingir5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      cats and fruits Ok Boomer

    • @autumnhd
      @autumnhd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cats and fruits boomer

    • @lmlmd2714
      @lmlmd2714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a wholesome qualification.

  • @kfcjet3892
    @kfcjet3892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +664

    *plane topic exists*:
    Wendover:I will take your entire stock

    • @KidErkwon
      @KidErkwon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Double Darrel who gives a shit

  • @CptPatch
    @CptPatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    "It would fit comfortably in just California, Nevada, Utah, and Arizona", listen I'm just going to recommend not including Arizona if your goal is fitting the US population *comfortably*.

    • @joeyshortino2875
      @joeyshortino2875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Captain Patch I think the heat will kill most non-Arizona residents

    • @bigtime9597
      @bigtime9597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @D. Steven Ever been there in the summer? You can smell barbecue in the senior homes, even when there's no grill. Just try not to ask about what's cooking.

    • @madhouse007
      @madhouse007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last time I was in Arizona in the summer, I thought I was going to die just walking over a parking lot.

    • @joeyshortino2875
      @joeyshortino2875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      D. Steven actually you can look up cases where senior citizens died from the heat in Arizona! It really sad.

    • @Blueeyes713
      @Blueeyes713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @D. Steven Southern Arizona is only comfortable from late fall to early spring. Spring transitions into summer pretty quickly and summer is hot and miserable. Northern Arizona however, is much cooler and far more tolerable in summer because of higher elevation and a different biome. Northern AZ's problem though, is that it gets snow in the winter and not everyone wants that.

  • @12gpm91
    @12gpm91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +640

    USA: "we can not afford high speed rail"
    also USA: "we should keep subsidising flights and roads that are 10 lanes wide"

    • @mahzorimipod
      @mahzorimipod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Also keep in mind wendover's implicit hatred of subsidies for rail or public transportation, but thinks this subsidized boondoggle is as natural as gravity.

    • @saturn0660
      @saturn0660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mmmmmm high speed rail that goes nowhere I wanna go..

    • @MatthewStinar
      @MatthewStinar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Wendover: The US is the least dense…
      Me: He's obviously not talking about the collective intelligence we display when making critical decisions for our nation.

    • @aespa690
      @aespa690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Are you stupid? He said in this video the US population density is far less than Europe or Asian countries thats why a rail system wouldnt be feasible. In California theyve already wasted billions on a train that literally connects two farm towns.

    • @MatthewStinar
      @MatthewStinar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@aespa690 No, there are also plenty of cases where we could make great use of trains, yet we either refuse to act or we find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I believe California's recent attempts at rail are examples of where we have been the cause of our own needless failure.

  • @jeffbrogan292
    @jeffbrogan292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +641

    Meanwhile, in europe we actually subsidise trains lol

    • @bishop51807
      @bishop51807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Is it cheaper than fueling a plane?

    • @fixminer9797
      @fixminer9797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      @@bishop51807 It can be, but that's not easy to answer because you have to factor in all the maintenance costs for the rail network. But it's almost always better for the environment...

    • @thelight3112
      @thelight3112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Sadly the US's geography makes passenger rail a near impossibility.

    • @rioyoung1493
      @rioyoung1493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Shigg McDigg why? It seems largely flat other than some mountains on either coast

    • @daltonnabors
      @daltonnabors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@rioyoung1493 Because of how vast the US is. The us government would have to buy millions of acres of real estate to lay the rails, cost of building train platforms, salary of all the people working the stations and trains, the cost of building and maintaining the rails, and train trips between the largely populated cities on both coasts would take days. Population centers in the US are largely too spread out to make widespread train travel feasible. (The exception being New England which is why it has AmTrack)

  • @Fpczach
    @Fpczach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I live in Hagerstown MD. Can’t believe it took them this long to axe the program.....

  • @dingus153
    @dingus153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Remote Air Services Subsidy Scheme here in Australia is probably nowhere near as expensive to run, however it serves 372 communities in remote areas, and we also have the Royal Flying Doctor Service as well providing medical treatment to the most remote parts of Australia as well, I think it'd be interesting to see a video on that

  • @counterfit5
    @counterfit5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know a guy that flies to Presque Isle once a year or so for work. One person works all the car rental counters.

  • @mikemotter3685
    @mikemotter3685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    EAS is amazing. I used them to fly from Morgantown (WV) to Baltimore a whole lot in college. It was like flying a private jet

  • @trapical
    @trapical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    11:13 "I've just filmed a documentary about... something..."
    It's about planes, isn't it.

  • @joeyknight8272
    @joeyknight8272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Planes do anything
    Wendover: Wright that down

    • @Erakius323
      @Erakius323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joey Knight That joke was awful. Plane crash awful.

    • @joeyknight8272
      @joeyknight8272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Erakius323
      No one
      Kamikaze pilots: suicides is badass

    • @Erakius323
      @Erakius323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joey Knight Well, at least those pilots are going out with a bang? Possibly, quite literally, if the plane tears it’s way out the other side of the ship.

    • @joeyknight8272
      @joeyknight8272 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Erakius323 of course i nothing but respect for them they may have enemy's but still i respect them. I feel quite bad about joking about it

    • @Erakius323
      @Erakius323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joey Knight I make awful jokes so that I can laugh at a cruel, random, insane world. What they did was beyond brave. Questionably effective on a tactical scale and pointless on a strategic scale, but very brave.

  • @c4flame
    @c4flame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Maryland we have like 3 different international airports to choose from that are practically right next to each other

  • @xp_studios7804
    @xp_studios7804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1 hour from Hagerstown to National!? This guy hasn't seen Beltway traffic

  • @gulktroktet
    @gulktroktet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone who lives in a small town where it costs $200+ to fly an hour away, I sure wish OUR flights were subsidized down to $64

  • @whatweather
    @whatweather 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Denver and used to live in ALS and GJT, having flown between the cities a couple times. I am a GIANT av geek and had always wondered about the cost of the flights to/from these airports. This video answered every question I ever had about Colorado’s aviation, and some I didn’t even know I had. Thank you! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @bookreads42
    @bookreads42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making this. After this video, I did a bit of searching and found out that the small plane I use to get to the large city nearest me from my small town is part of this program. I can't drive, so I'm really glad this exists. Especially since my tickets are usually around $30-$60 one way. I've always wondered why they are so cheap, and now I know!

  • @falconJB
    @falconJB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So what you are saying is that small towns depend on government handouts

    • @LoveStrangeDr
      @LoveStrangeDr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A fact, oddly enough forgotten by small town folk

    • @KingAram99
      @KingAram99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The irony is thicc

  • @mvg2993
    @mvg2993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I played this video to my dog...
    He still a dog, but he liked it though

  • @mzaite
    @mzaite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:15 I flew that EXACT plane on Air Service routes in '08 out of Cleveland. Loved those routes and that plane. So much better than the Hub to Hub runs we had. It felt useful, as opposed to just being slightly cheaper than running an RJ.

    • @rawleighsellers4525
      @rawleighsellers4525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      u flew a floating plane?

    • @mzaite
      @mzaite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rawleighsellers4525 Main gear is under the engines. Big wide stance. Framing means everything in Photography and cinematography.

  • @adysoferu
    @adysoferu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as usual. Thank you Wendover for the quality content you provide. Keep up the good work!

  • @sophrapsune
    @sophrapsune 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Being such a great communicator about logistics, you should do some similar work about passenger rail services.
    On a recent trip to Europe, after both rail and flying, it was clear that passenger rail was the superior choice for intercity travel.
    It would be great to understand why, say, trains are full on some European routes yet are almost unviable in the US and Australia.

  • @2600D4u
    @2600D4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    4:15 took me some time before I realised that the plane isn't levitating...

    • @1998tkhri
      @1998tkhri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But where are the back wheels? I can only see the front one.

    • @2600D4u
      @2600D4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1998tkhri On the wings. You can see the one on the left-wing

    • @freddyfink1382
      @freddyfink1382 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1998tkhri google Q400-8

  • @Lunch_Peak
    @Lunch_Peak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:16 That is a Horizon Air Q-400 in PDX, I pilot that exact airplane regularly. Great airplane!

  • @RoadkillbunnyUK
    @RoadkillbunnyUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing!
    Not only great video but I decided today that I was going to join CuriosityStream BUT I wanted to use your code because I love what you do and want to support in the little ways I can, plus you always do such a good job on the adds!
    Then before I get around to looking for your code up pops this notification, perfect timing and I’m now all set up with CuriosityStream 😁

  • @Naruedyoh
    @Naruedyoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You always make logistics interesing AND I LOVE IT

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Wendover and airplanes are just like hot chocolate and marshmallows, the perfect combination

  • @benjaminman7
    @benjaminman7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, Victoria is actually the city where I live and I am flying from Victoria to Houston for the first time on Boutique air in a few weeks, so it is really cool to see this video! One reason Victoria's Houston and Dallas routes have such low demand is because the city is less than 150 miles from both Houston Hobby and Houston Intercontinental Airports as well as San Antonio, Austin, and Corpus Christi's Airports which are all mid-size to major airports. Most residents would rather drive the 2-3 hours to a major airport than fly the 1-2 hour route.

  • @sequoia_pflug
    @sequoia_pflug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually suggested this topic on your form a few months ago. Glad to see a video on it!

  • @NotAmira_
    @NotAmira_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Airplanes: *exist*
    Wendover: It's free real estate

    • @askhowiknow5527
      @askhowiknow5527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rev. Spooner: It’s reef real estate

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How is it possible that under every video the same comment is one of the most liked comments?
      Are -Wendover fans- people on TH-cam really that stupid?

    • @JohnSilverstar12
      @JohnSilverstar12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jehty_ not just a wendover meme. This type of meme is all over youtube and apparently they don't become boring to many

  • @mariusbroxwikstrand6554
    @mariusbroxwikstrand6554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This happens in Norway aswell in Northern Norway with Wideroe

  • @paulkelly7896
    @paulkelly7896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just love these vids, so informative, great details

  • @durangokids1
    @durangokids1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoutout to my hometown of Durango!!!! Major tourist destination, with over 300,000 annual passengers through the La Plata County Airport

  • @archlinuxrussian
    @archlinuxrussian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Denver-Pueblo ought to be rail. There's even a name for the proposed project: Front Range Rail :) hopefully more of these areas are connected with more sustainable and economic modes of transit!

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Trains are only real competitors over short distances.

    • @CW-yt5kq
      @CW-yt5kq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They should have taken all they money they used to widen the I-25 gap and put it into a train.

    • @nramos33
      @nramos33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would I want to travel to Pueblo by rail?
      Honestly, it's nice for a few people to live in Pueblo and take the rail to work in Denver due to the cost of living in Denver being higher than Pueblo. But that's about it. Even a high speed train would turn a 2 hours trip into a 1 hour trip.
      That sounds nice, but then the rest of Denver public transportation is mediocre so if I was commuting from Pueblo, I'd save maybe 20 minutes a trip once you account for transfers.
      Seriously, that project is a waste of resources that would benefit a handful of people. It's way better to spend the tens of millions of dollars on improving Pueblo.

    • @archlinuxrussian
      @archlinuxrussian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seigeengine Denver - Pueblo is only roughly 100miles, well within that range of effectiveness for rail :)

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @archlinuxrussian The problem is that trains are expensive.
      The track alone to cover that 100 miles could cost $5-10 billion.

  • @ivanstrydom8417
    @ivanstrydom8417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope by the time I get my CPL these routs will still be active, it might aid me in obtaining some valuable flight experience here in the US.

  • @staceyparkes6764
    @staceyparkes6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in one of the towns serviced by the Essential Air service and it is a great option to have. If we didn't have it; then it's a 2 hour drive to the next closest airport; or a 4 hour drive to the next major airport.

  • @honajtransit
    @honajtransit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks doing this topic!!

  • @rasterb1aster
    @rasterb1aster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Next up can you do a video explaining china’s belt and road initiative and show how large of a project to it is

  • @JamesRB10.
    @JamesRB10. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Last time I was this early, the 737 MAX was flying.

    • @cseblivestreaming
      @cseblivestreaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JamesRB10 ayyyyyyyy

    • @6z0
      @6z0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JamesRB10 No, just no

    • @AMalas
      @AMalas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Last time I was this early, the 737 NG had sound pickleforks

    • @bk2les
      @bk2les 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too soon. Too soon

    • @DeveroonieWasTaken
      @DeveroonieWasTaken 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this aged well

  • @SkyblueAviation
    @SkyblueAviation 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting once again! Thank you for this video :D

  • @aspenlover101
    @aspenlover101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually flew from Victoria to Houston over the summer to get a connecting flight back to Denver. The plane had 6 seats and wasn’t a very long flight. Didn’t know about this service but it’s really cool to know that I was apart of something bigger.

  • @SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand
    @SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just realized that this is like an airplane related channel at this point.

  • @Mystik3eb
    @Mystik3eb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "Without telling you what to think, $290 million just isn't that much for the gov."
    *shrug*

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      To be fair that isn’t contradictory, you can still think that these flights shouldn’t be subsidised even if it were just 1 dollar. Wendover previously has stated he supports access to transport for all, you don’t necessarily have to share _that_ view.

    • @habirton
      @habirton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      2019 US Federal budget is $4.4 Trillion dollars. $290 million is 0.004% of the budget. It's not that much compared to the size of the budget.

    • @Mystik3eb
      @Mystik3eb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with the sentiment, just thought the phrasing was funny.

    • @matthewhemmings2464
      @matthewhemmings2464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dan Scannell Well if every passenger using a subsidized plane increases local GDP by 0,12 %, and these flights allow for the upkeep of jobs in these areas, such a program can be an investment.
      Let’s be honest, the government earns money through taxes, if it pays 1 $ for a program knowing they’ll receive 1,01 $ back in tax revenue, it is a win-win situation for them. Plus they get to create jobs in rural areas, etc. Thus, 290 million is not much.

    • @tann_man
      @tann_man 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with fetchstix™. The relative price of the subsidization doesn’t matter nearly as much as the principle. We the people shouldn’t be forced at gunpoint to pay private businesses

  • @samarvora7185
    @samarvora7185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life's good when wendover uploads a new video. Waiting for Extremities season 3.

  • @Adam47150
    @Adam47150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woohoo! I was hoping you would do a video on the EAS! My favorite wasteful EAS route is Owensboro, KY to St. Louis on Cape Air. OWB has twice weekly unsubsidized service on Allegiant to Orlando-Sanford. The Cape Air EAS route runs three times a day with some tickets as low as $19. OWB is only 43 miles from Evansville Regional Airport. EVV has service to all the major US3 east coast hubs as well as service to SFB also via Allegiant. Cape Air makes $2 million for their 21 flights a week, or $1,831.50 per flight before a single ticket is sold.

  • @XSpImmaLion
    @XSpImmaLion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting stuff, never heard of something like this.
    I'd be interested to know if there is such a program in my own country, which I'd guess there isn't - Brazil.
    Around a decade ago, a few low cost airlines started popping up in the country landing in relatively small scale airports in mid sized cities.
    It didn't last long. They went bankrupt and stopped service altogether.
    I know this because my mom's hometown, which we go to every xmas, has a population of only around 6000 people. The nearest neighboring city 40 minutes by car has a population of 250 thousand people. That city has a tiny airport. It's less like an airport and more like a landing zone for crop planes, but they adapted it somehow.
    For a couple of great years, instead of taking a 9hr bus trip there, I paid up to double the price to take a 40 minute flight instead.
    For the most part though, if you live in a small to mid sized city in Brazil, without strong tourism, or some other reason for there to be an airport there... it's fuck you, drive or take a bus to a bigger city, and take the flight there. :P

  • @TheBenenene10
    @TheBenenene10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    "without telling you what to think"
    proceeds to tell us what to think lol

    • @forgottenfamily
      @forgottenfamily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's trying to make sure we understand the equivalent value of that program without trying to express whether that means its justified or not. "It's not that much" is not the same as "it's worth it"....

    • @stevencooper4422
      @stevencooper4422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@forgottenfamily It's a matter of principle. If we cut all the crazy programs like this one the government would save billions. If not, the programs will continue to grow and our debt will consume us all.

    • @forgottenfamily
      @forgottenfamily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@stevencooper4422 Again, no position was made on whether it was or wasn't worth it. Whether you think it's worth it is up to you and you may vote based upon those beliefs. All that was expressed was to give a proper reference point to what the cost is actually since we actually have very limited ability to understand expenses that are orders of magnitude above numbers that we routinely deal with.
      However, if we want to talk about practical realities, here are some things I do ask:
      1) What is the actual economic benefit of the program? While the video gives a percentage of economic growth from increased traffic, that doesn't actually translate to an actual dollar amount of economic activity. Did that economic benefit exceed the 290M? In fact, I'd actually want it to greatly exceed it - if it's a 1:1 ROI, then it's basically a direct funneling of money from Washington to that town which is not necessarily a practical policy.
      2) Are there more effective ways for that 290M to be spent from an economic standpoint?
      3) Are there secondary economic or cultural benefits. I posted elsewhere on here that one of the areas I'm thinking about is how primary resource gathering such as mining and farming are fairly rural oriented just by their nature. While the economic benefit of growing the town might not necessarily be there, having farming communities be connected enough to continue to sustain the farming industry may be a worthwhile investment.
      I'm sure if pushed, I could come up with additional questions, but the point of the questions is that there are a lot of reasons to consider this a worthwhile investment. On the other hand, it would not shock me if many of these flights are terrible investments and are far more about ensuring that communities that have no remaining economic value are propped up. I'm not convinced that a small youtube video can truly do justice to answering the questions that need to be answered for judging a program. But I do know that just looking at the price tag and saying "that's too much" without asking the question "is it worth it" is just bad government.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, yes, but we all know by "what to think," he means "what opinion to have on the matter."
      If you consider facts as matters of opinion you probably shouldn't try having opinions about anything of consequence at any point in your life.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Steven Cooper "We should cut this program because it costs money."
      That is all your comment said. Morons like you are why there's a debt problem in the first place.

  • @EurasiaOnYT
    @EurasiaOnYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! You're a great inspiration for me and my channel 😊😊😊

  • @waltondorrison
    @waltondorrison 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hana here! That subsidized Mokulele flight between our small town and Kahului operates a couple times a day. Used to sit on the sea cliffs just off the runway and watch the late afternoon flight depart. We have no control tower, and the one person that works the "terminal" just calls Kahului Airport to let them know the plane left.

  • @trainroomgary
    @trainroomgary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Like • Cheers from Mettetal Airport. Canton - Plymouth Michigan ✈️

    • @Ryyyaaaaannn
      @Ryyyaaaaannn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ayyyyee canton

    • @User31129
      @User31129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howdy neighbor! Farmington Hills here.

  • @charlesramos7339
    @charlesramos7339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Planes: *exist*
    Wendover: *plan(e)s and posts 5112019 videos on them*

    • @airwipe1639
      @airwipe1639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Charles Ramos What a normie!

  • @codystratman
    @codystratman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is especially fascinating considering I used to live in Gunnison and would drive the 4 hours to Denver because of the cost of flights and now live in a small town in Alaska where the flights to Anchorage cost about 1/4 of the cost of flights from GUC to DEN. It would take me less time to drive to drive from my town to Anchorage than it did from Gunnison to Denver. You can always drive to an airport in Colorado and there are multiple roads to get to a major airport, but in Alaska that is generally not the case.

  • @BronySquid
    @BronySquid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy to see someone finally talk about the EAS program.

  • @cryptolomito8678
    @cryptolomito8678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi I was wondering how do you take the reference of the cost of the highway at 10:54. Thanks

  • @itssaad8663
    @itssaad8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! You make very informative and entertaining videos on airplanes...i hope you make more!
    *oh wai.....*

  • @charlescoleman10
    @charlescoleman10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, that was very informative.

  • @alexdhall
    @alexdhall 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Resident of the DMV (DC, MD, VA). The estimate you give at 9:33 is a best case scenario. With the traffic issues we have, especially when crossing the Potomac river during rush hour, it will probably take longer than stated. Though I agree with Wendover that the subsidy makes no sense...

  • @josipcuric8767
    @josipcuric8767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Hmmm
    Yes
    Yes
    This channel is made out of airplanes

    • @thomashart5321
      @thomashart5321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now _thats_ what I like about it

  • @MSthesmart
    @MSthesmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What I am doing here during my Physics lecture?
    Oh I learn more easily here. Lol

    • @waaahl
      @waaahl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s not the Vf=Vi+at that kills you, it’s the F=m(deltaV/deltaT)

  • @thenewadventuresofhenry6998
    @thenewadventuresofhenry6998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I fly into Chattanooga from Charlotte it's on a tiny plane from American Airlines that's always packed. When I fly in on Delta from Atlanta the plane is big and only 3/4 full.

  • @VulcanLogic
    @VulcanLogic ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fantastic argument for high speed rail. Pueblo would be an easy stop in the Denver corridor that would not need to be subsidized AT ALL.

  • @askhowiknow5527
    @askhowiknow5527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    “It’s not as expensive as the other things we spend money on” is not a valid excuse to spend money.
    I do think EAS is a good thing though

    • @B0bb217
      @B0bb217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I think he's more trying to say that it's a lot more beneficial than a lot of those other things

    • @damonferrara3637
      @damonferrara3637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It puts it into context though. If this program was a complete hole of money, we'd probably all turn against it eventually. The spending is still proportional to its benefits.

    • @deep.space.12
      @deep.space.12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He did compare it against highways which is relevant...

    • @54461jessy
      @54461jessy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But what he said is the cost of building new highways which do last, so it's not a fair comparison. I believe that maintaining existing highways would cost much cheaper.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The point isn't that it being a small amount of money in context means that money should continue being spent this way. The point is that the money being spent on this program isn't worth much as a counter to idiots who are inclined to go "wow, $290M is a lot to me, therefore it's such a waste because I'm a selfish prick who has no concern for other people and can't conceive of another perspective."

  • @jaloveast1k
    @jaloveast1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    7:28
    trans-siberian railroad: *cough*

    • @ChrisGeden
      @ChrisGeden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Justice and honor built by countless slaves: *TB cough*

    • @jaloveast1k
      @jaloveast1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ChrisGeden we prefer to call them.. commited volunteers

    • @antondeni4166
      @antondeni4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Justice and honor incorrect. The trans-siberian road was built in the days of Russian Empire.

    • @hsfjeldnfdhejfnfdnslcjwk281
      @hsfjeldnfdhejfnfdnslcjwk281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And all electrified

  • @luiscalado2138
    @luiscalado2138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a video on major airport expansions! Great channel!

  • @sleepytickle
    @sleepytickle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Essential air service. It allows smaller communities to have air service whereby they otherwise would not.. This could be critical in remote places like Flagstaff, AZ. Bute, Montana. etc.

  • @boshypatry
    @boshypatry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    54$ flights.. lol
    Here in Europe we have 10€ flights with Ryanair

    • @edipires15
      @edipires15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Depends from and to which airport you go

    • @TapOnX
      @TapOnX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      *shitty short-haul flights if reserved months in advance

    • @Hobinator17
      @Hobinator17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Weird flex but ok. Do you think you're better than us or something?

    • @boshypatry
      @boshypatry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TapOnX well... yeah

    • @boshypatry
      @boshypatry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Hobinator17 Absolutely not. I'd love to move to the US

  • @anb4351
    @anb4351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    4:21
    how the hell is that plane standing ???

    • @pixoontube2912
      @pixoontube2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I also just thought that

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wings under the engine

    • @cabanacat
      @cabanacat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Look at the wheels under the turboprop

    • @scotthenrie5674
      @scotthenrie5674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OCinneide wings are above the engine!!! You meant to say wheels. 😜

    • @scotthenrie5674
      @scotthenrie5674 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pixoontube2912 check the new replies for an answer.

  • @abdullabintalib4118
    @abdullabintalib4118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video. Very informative 👍

  • @DBLARRY999
    @DBLARRY999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. I have learnt so Much from you of the Aviation industry practices

  • @scottfranco1962
    @scottfranco1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So a Cessna Caravan is still a fairly big aircraft, seating 9 people. If they are not filling that, what is the matter with filling the "essential need" with Cessnas/Pipers? (4 seater aircraft). An independent company could do that.

  • @volusrus5159
    @volusrus5159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    USA: Has airlanes to every small village
    Europe: T R A I N S

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also USA: The size of the entire European continent. a third bigger if you exclude Alaska/Russia from those.

    • @fgsaramago
      @fgsaramago 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seigeengine you have trains from Lisbon to Paying Yang if you want to, so it's a moot point the one of size

  • @wanderlustspirit4607
    @wanderlustspirit4607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing the Alaska Horizon Q400 and the Alaska 737. I work at Alaska and it’s a beautiful plane.

  • @alek488
    @alek488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For example Bangor Maine is a small city that gets lots of flights a day. It’s because it’s the only large airport in northern Maine and is close to a national park

  • @christianordonez5704
    @christianordonez5704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Space A: hold my c-17 for free

    • @thelight3112
      @thelight3112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Space A: Corrupted to be more useful for retirees than active duty or reservists.

  • @Taprman
    @Taprman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    3:18 my town finally mentioned in a TH-cam video

  • @henrytimpe7644
    @henrytimpe7644 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing videp. lots of research. well made

  • @cosakita6120
    @cosakita6120 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is the 3rd time that my tiny, far-side-of-nowhere hometown of Presque Isle Maine has come up on this channel and it surprises me every time.
    Also congratulations on saying "Presque Isle" correctly.

  • @tornado1050
    @tornado1050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    When wendover talks about planes in his TH-cam videos:
    Commenters: *PLANES EXIST*
    Wendover:I own these now.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      not funny didnt laugh.

    • @tornado1050
      @tornado1050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@honkhonk8009thanks for the comment, could you suggest how it could be funnier?

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tornado1050 Stop using normie formats that have been spammed countless of times.
      Humour isnt as simple as finding "le funny phrase" and spamming it and expecting a result. Humour needs originality. No ones gonna laugh from a shitty reskinned joke

  • @jackpalmer2549
    @jackpalmer2549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “The US is one of the least densely populated developed countries in the world”
    *Laughs in Australian*

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see your Australia and I'll raise you a Canada.
      Update: The googles tell me I'm wrong. 4 to 3.3. Holy shit.

    • @campbellmartin2499
      @campbellmartin2499 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was searching for this comment.

    • @randomeastasian347
      @randomeastasian347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah Australians are all bunched up all on the coast.

  • @lukakulukaku2348
    @lukakulukaku2348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wendover at its best!! keep it up champ.

  • @gilyterobertson1
    @gilyterobertson1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    07:20 the Forth Bridge! 😍

  • @tzwacdastag8223
    @tzwacdastag8223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Will Wendover Production ever run out of Plane videos ?

    • @scotthenrie5674
      @scotthenrie5674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait until the airplane industry starts leaving Earth's atmosphere to make the trips shorter! ( I doubt that will happen )

  • @kobetiu8628
    @kobetiu8628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm seriously running out of plane jokes for this channel.

  • @hoytbenson6016
    @hoytbenson6016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He got the Colorado airport stuff spot on! Well done Sam!

  • @fantasyfootballhelper7651
    @fantasyfootballhelper7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work Sam.

  • @elbalalaw1781
    @elbalalaw1781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6:40 also you forgot that trains are the go to mean of transport that European countries subsidize as they are cheaper than planes and often ran by state owned companies

    • @TheOwenMajor
      @TheOwenMajor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And yet every year Europeans fly more and more often.

    • @williamforbes6919
      @williamforbes6919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it is quite nice when a crushing world war breaks any semblance of property rights, allowing the government to build massive civic works without dealing with the headache of relocating literal tens of millions of citizens from their houses. It also helps when your entire nation is the same size as a single state of the United States.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also, the entire European continent packs about twice the people in about 75% of the land (if we exclude the European portions of Russia from both, and Alaska from the USA).

    • @williamforbes6919
      @williamforbes6919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @UC9LdrViPBSyykPs4CAGogBg The reply function didn't seem to add in the user name you are responding to.

    • @elbalalaw1781
      @elbalalaw1781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@williamforbes6919 Can you please send me a link to proove it? Because the majority of railroads in Europe were built before ww2

  • @untilnow581
    @untilnow581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    and the same US government makes me pay for college smh

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ehh, I don’t think it’s as comparable. Transport is more necessary than higher education for a start, and I’d say e.g. free healthcare should come over free college

    • @OORAH762
      @OORAH762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If they spread that money out evenly to the US population we would all get about $0.80. That same US government spends more in subsidies to universities and paying peoples loan interest than they do in the EAS program.

    • @TheOwenMajor
      @TheOwenMajor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The government gives massive subsidies to higher education. God you people are insufferable, you don't have any idea of what you are talking about.

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheOwenMajor it's hard to feel those subsidies when you're sitting on a 6 figures worth of debt, especially when those costs didn't use to be so high

    • @TheOwenMajor
      @TheOwenMajor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hydrochloricacid2146 The costs are so high primarily due to government intervention.
      Demand is high, faculty are paid more, more services are offered, more programs need to be supported.
      This idea that everyone needs to have a college education is what is driving up the costs.

  • @danb.3397
    @danb.3397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ANOTHER QUALITY EFFORT, THANKS

  • @maxsmodels
    @maxsmodels 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to fly the Presque Isle ME to Boston MA flight for US Air Express (Mesa airlines) but it was not EAS. We had to make it pay and did until US Airways was absorbed by America West.

  • @santiagorestrepo9504
    @santiagorestrepo9504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:19 gravity needs a patch.

    • @santiagorestrepo9504
      @santiagorestrepo9504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomperson01 there are no wheels in the back.

    • @santiagorestrepo9504
      @santiagorestrepo9504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomperson01 there is 1 wheel at the front supporting all of the weight

  • @dotQuadcore
    @dotQuadcore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wendover: Flights and Planes
    In other news, the sky is blue and the sun is shining

  • @dotnothing5620
    @dotnothing5620 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curiosity Stream is cool shit. Thanks for great content! Can't wait for your doc to drop on Nebula.