Exactly. Caitlin plays like a guy. No, she doesn’t look like one. She’s skilled, aggressive and understands the court. She doesn’t look for opportunities for herself. She’s like a general looking at the entire field. She is also emotionally mature and a skilled communicator off the court. The expanded exposure has uncovered that this is lacking in most of the league. Their distaste for criticism proves this and is a hindrance to their growth of character.
Carter, well put and well said. You hit the nail on the head when you talked about CC having both skill and likability. The Issue is that for years, the WNBA has not been likeable. As you said, they seemed to focus more on being activists than entertainers. What's sad is that when CC brought the eyeballs to the WNBA, they had the chance to show the fans that they COULD be likeable and worth watching. Instead they decided to show their entire butt and remain just as tasteless (if not even more so) as they were before CC came into the league. And worse yet, instead of having a moment of reflection and making changes to help turn things around, they doubled down on the obnoxiousness. (I will say there some players in the WNBA that realize the gold mine that is CC, and have adjusted to their benefit). My hope is that she is saying these things in order to foster peace in the WNBA. It's not gonna work, though, because, as they say, haters gonna hate...
I think exactly why she said it. I think she wants peace. I also think she saw Brinks and Paige do it and felt that was expected of her. I also think she really admires these women and wants them to accept her. I totally agree with Carter and the unlikeability of these women. That’s why it’s so hard for me to like A’ja.
The sad thing is there will be no peace in the WNBA from those players because they believe they are victims of her personally. Like all of us born in an unjust world no matter where we live. This country exists with blacks who feel victimized and whites who feel victimized. It’s just ugly all around. Clark is only a small part of the USA and she won’t fix it but no one will say she doesn’t have her own beliefs.
I agree with you. I think Time may have manipulated the interview or even taken the quote out of context. (But Caitlin said she was happy with the article). She may have felt some pressure to keep the peace, as you suggested, but I hope that’s in the past. Let’s all move on and enjoy the Fever’s road to the championship!
I agree with your sentiments on this point. I wish I could upvote your video more than once. I understand when people try to say that CC was talking about marketing opportunities, but I think Mr. Carter pointed out the character of some players that make the wnba unpopular. Companies also look at character when they sign athletes to represent their products. Do you remember the way A’ja talked down to Kelsey Plum? What happened with Britney Grinder? How polarizing Angel Reese was fresh out of college? What large companies want to be associated with that?
Well, Angel has gotten some sweetheart endorsement deals. Some of those were NIL deals from college, plus she had Shaq helping her get the Reebok deal. But she reaches an entirely different market from Caitlin.
She is a 22 year old trying to figure it all out. Balancing respect for the women that came before her & knowing she is the "it" girl that has changed women's BB forever.
Imma give her a pass on that one. Probably countless people feeding that racial trash into her ear. Funny when black women have comments like Caitlin’s, the reaction is “yeah preach sister!” When CC says it, the reaction is “what I don’t need no handouts from you?!!!?”
Not at all. As ComvosWithCarter said, she brought race into all this again, and that's nefarious and unnecessary. She can have all the respect in the world for those who came before her. We all do. Kobe showed many, many times how much respect he had for those that came before him, for those that taught him moves, skills and how to have work ethics. What has "having respect for the women that came before her" got to do with race? NOTHING. Zero. Her "IT" factor? What does her IT factor have to do with race? NOTHING. Kelsey Plum, Breanna, Sophie, Lexie, Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi, Ticha Penicheiro - all white, all highly regarded, most of them became legends, and did they move the needle? No. No IT factor. Race has NOTHING to do with cLark's success. Nothing this 22 yo has said or done is by accident. She has been bullied and attacked physically and all she does is utter a protest to referees. She even had a guy come on court scream ra ci st things at her and threaten her (with a broken neck), and yet she did not succumb to pressure. What she said was a lie, was planned and has set back the WNBA as ConvodmsWithCarter said.
That's how I look at it. CC is under constant media pressure, even with just having a camera focused on her all the time, everywhere she goes. I can't imagine that kind of pressure. Maybe she thought it would ease some of the scrutiny and criticism. But maybe this will be good learning experience for her and others who are constantly trolled by the agenda-driven woke types: never cater to them, never bow to their demands. Let your game do your talking.
They kept pushing her to say something ! She has been focusing on her gane !! - she just want to give credit to the others that were there before her !
Credit that has been expressed by her more than enough, gets to be tiring at some point. When she did on SNL, that was alright..but repeatedly saying it when occasion calls for it, 'nuff already. The league itself didn't even do any such credit tribute to their history of players at their 25th anniversary//
You need to read the whole TIME article. She was asked questions about race all throughout it. We didn't get to see some of the questions, but they seem to be asking about A'ja's comments on race. A'ja said it "boils her blood" when people say it's not about race. Temi calls her "the great white hope" for America. She was hit with a lot of racial content. The article is free online to read 🙂 I would like your whole thoughts on it.
@@marisoltammero3331 I agree, and I was very disappointed by what Temi said. Especially since in the exit interview Temi did not take the bait to talk about race.
Dear Carter your analysis on or off the court are straight on point and when you look at this calmly there is nothing that you said in the video that I can disagree with. I can understand that CC is trying to buy or keep the peace but I think she will quickly realize that no matter what she say nothing will change their minds.
@@LoloLV24 it’s my time to Lol. How do you even know that 50% will agree with her? Huh? There are already a bunch of haters on her case those are not changing their minds anytime soon. There are people who are neither agreeing or disagreeing with her. And maybe just maybe it can be 50/50 for her fan base because if her fan base is left or right leaning it can make a huge difference in the 50/50 outcome. If you take all this together I highly doubt that you will get a 50/50 outcome but probability says otherwise.
yeah I agree - and in a country 57% white and 12% black I think there is a slight advantage (maybe 1% maybe 5%) in being the same skin color as your audience. This often comes with similar culture, language (some of the interviews with certain players almost seem like they are not even english!), family structure, etc. She is not tattooed up ball of muscle - she actually looks like a 'normal' girl - much more relatable to her audience.
Carter, for conversation I will echo your points: 1. When children are very young, they just evaluate whether strangers are Nice or Not Nice. That's all (unless they are "taught" to categorize further). By adulthood we complicate our assessments to varied levels - yet in the end we try to come back to whether someone is Nice (or likeable). The sad complication to this is Fear of Others - sometimes built on experiences, sometimes built upon taught biases. 2. The most Liked basketball player in history is/was Magic Johnson. - Growing up in Iowa, just 2 states near to Indiana, I still imprinted on Magic because he was the most charasmatic athlete that I had ever seen (possibly along with Muhammed Ali). He also led the most exciting basketball ever played/seen (Lakers Showtime). - Note: Yes, Jordan is the most admired, and the Bulls can argue with the Lakers & Celtics for GOAT team status, but Jordan was never Loved like Magic & the Bulls were never as exciting as the Lakers. - Later in life, I've grown to love Bird's game as much as I feared it in the 80s. Still, in an all-time draft I am choosing Magic first (yes, over Jordan, and with doubts over Kareem) because - while both Jordan and Bird were better in all-around skill, Magic is the GOAT of making other players better... 3. Caitlin Clark is Magic Johnson. For those like me who were there (with Magic) we have deja vu - "Full court outlet pass... layup!. . . The ball is inbounded. . . deflection! Coming across half court. . 2 seconds. . .the ball is launched! Score!!! Only Magic Johnson, er ... only Caitlin Clark ladies and gentleman!! We will never see another player like this!!" - Kobe, Curry, & Bird smile knowing they could do it All, but no one has made Teams better like Magic, like Caitlin. Epilogue: Growing up in Iowa, no one ever told me to not like Magic (or to prefer Bird) for any reason, let alone race. Maybe THAT is a "privilege". As privilege is something unique, something better than the norm... Most of us who grew up in Iowa grew up without bias pollution. Our standards are on character: Earned results, Devotion, Loyalty, Humility, Corny Humor, Community, Charity. You see this Iowa character every time you see Caitlin Clark (as you can/ could have with Iowa's greatest sport's hero, the man who saved wrestling, Dan Gable). And you don't have to be from Iowa to appreciate True Character. - It's not like Iowa is Heaven. - Millions resonate with her, seeing something that reminds them of their grandparents' hopes for the future, no one having to be told to like/not like Magic/Caitlin for anything but how they are with people. As you said Carter, CC is great with people. Her name is as simple as multiplying her universal appeal X her unparalleled skills. The truth is, everyone would love Clark (as it was once allowed to be easy to love Magic), if they were allowed to grow up like Iowans. P.S. We can end all of this noise in one move. Get Juju (or another hyped rival to Clark's legacy) to transfer to Iowa. Everyone will see that we will Adopt her as One of Our Own, as we have everyone who takes a chance to brave our winters & visit our hospital. Then there will be nothing else to do but share the cheer.
Carter, I agree. White Privilege was not involved in the rise of the numbers for Women's College Basketball, it was about the high speed and energy that Clark brought to Women's College Basketball. She took so many records in college and then in her first year of the WNBA, that was NOT privilege it was hard play and hard work.
Agreed… but can you imagine the reaction if CC said “WNBA activist players are unlikable and don’t have skill?” I am laughing just thinking of the shitstorm that would bring.
I'm a lifelong Iowa Hawkeyes fan. There is an excellent video out called Growing the Game. Well worth watching. This is how a great coaches does the game the way it should be. No agenda just basketball and a coach who truly loves her players.
You are an intelligent young man, I’m 69, I wasn’t expecting such clarity when I clicked on your video, just curious. I fully agree with your analysis. Clark should have ended her statement after she said she earned it. The rest is addressing what they call WOKE issue. I’ve watched many BLACK in many different sports from James Brown, Dr J, Wilt Chamberlain, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Ali to Curry James and the present. Most are Black! It was their TALENT that I admired! I didn’t care about the COLOR of their skin! I watch Clark for the same REASON:she’s talented and her Catholic parents raised a GREAT woman, very respectful and classy! As a Christian I find the rest of the WNBA to repugnant because of their lifestyle so I’ve never watched any of the so called “greats” play though I knew of them. Clark is the best woman basketball player. That’s why I watch her and being a good Catholic girl is a bonus. I like morally upright people, if you’re an a$$hole, I don’t want anything to do with you.
Read that first sentence again but put the emphasis on the word HAVE and then pause after. It changes the meaning. Now she is saying she has earned everything, but she will acknowledge the fact that white privilege exists. I think a lot of this is in response to DJ Carrington saying "it must be nice to have the luxury of staying silent on the issues. etc. She was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Also she was asked a direct question on the subject, now what do you want her to do? Refuse to answer like Sheryl Swoops? you want her to say, "piss off, I hate all those black women who have beat the shit out of me all season"? No, she said the only thing she could to try and diffuse a situation that could go off like a roman candle if handled wrong. Did you see her reaction live to meeting Maya Moore, the girl was hero struck. that was not faked, she loves Ms Moore. She is not a racists and ... this rant is too long. CC really wants to play basketball and stop the drama madness.. Lets cut her some slack.
@isabellascalzitti9524 I don't really agree though I get your point. Imagine 2 players - one from a well off family, one from a very poor one (leaving race out of it). They both work just as hard. Its likely the well off one has more opportunities, and the best equipment, better coaches. Probably they will end up slightly better with the same effort. Lots of factors of course but it is easier. In the league you have Flauje Johnson - whos father was a rapper who was killed before she was born. If I said that about a player and asked was that player was white or black, I'm betting most people will say 'black'. Privilege does not get rid of hard work - but it might make things 5% easier.
Hooray ! You're back !!! I am skipping the drama, but when I saw the thumbnail for this video, I just had to see what "you" had to say about it. As always, you have a fresh, unique take. looking forward to hearing more from you !!
If she was asked a question about privilege, I can see how it would be appropriate to bring up socioeconomic privilege. Many players, including Caitlin Clark and Aja Wilson, grew up in the upper middle class and thus were able to dedicate more time and resources to their development as players. Girls who grow up in single parent households or households with lesser financial means will likely face more struggles. I know we minimalize it today, but over $100 for basketball shoes that will get worn out quickly with high level play is no joke for a family without a lot of spare funds. That is an issue that affects all races in a very tangible way.
That’s hugely important. Look at players like Aliyah Boston and Jonquel Jones, they moved from Borgin Islands and Bahamas as kids to have an opportunity at basketball which they then worked on in high school and college away from home. It was a huge sacrifice for them. Not to mention the countless players whose parents had to sacrifice a lot and the kids who didn’t have family with stable finances.
I agree with you! Hope you don’t get too much backlash for speaking truth and honestly commenting on your perspective! Caitilin is young and has been being pressured all season to become an activist, so I’m not surprised she caved, but I was disappointed. Still excited to watch next season and for your analysis after games!!
Carter you nailed it and I completely agree. And I must say it again that if Caitlin was black and everything else about her was the same then I would still like her just as much.
First: great video and I really enjoyed hearing your opinion on this topic. Second: Congratulations to Caitlin Clark for winning TIME magazine athlete of the year! …said no one. It’s all just criticism of one sentence in a many thousand word article. A powerful sentence, yes I agree. and it didn’t need to be there. TIME didn’t have to include it but they love that sort of thing. They aren’t a sports magazine and I’m sure they kept asking and asking until she said something. We all hate the activists. But it makes me sad to see everyone turn this amazing accomplishment into yet another racial issue. I have heard almost no one celebrate this achievement and it just makes me sad as someone who is trying to appreciate her basketball accomplishments. Did anyone ever consider that this white girl from a white town playing in white schools until the WNBA maybe has been influenced to think this way? Look at the disgusting questions she’s been asked over the season regarding race and her fans etc. She just can’t win. She’s not perfect which is why we shouldn’t idolize athletes. That said, I hope she learned from this experience and understands that she just needs to focus on her game and not try to please everyone. She’s well spoken, friendly, polite, and one of the least problematic players in the league and she’s organically lifting up all other players in the WNBA just by being there. Like I said, I appreciate your opinion and you did a good job here. I basically agree with everything you said but I’d like to move on and just enjoy her as a generational basketball talent and that’s it. There is white privilege in a way (she’s a novelty at first) but there’s also black privilege for other players (too many things to mention), especially in the WNBA. It’s better if we just stop talking about it. It doesn’t matter. Basketball matters. Sorry for the long comment but if you didn’t read this, you definitely didn’t read the TIME article. It’s about 100 times longer than this comment. Go read or listen to it, it’s really good.
Great job Carter. No one else has mentioned the fact that what she said is a shot at the fans. Hopefully CC doesn't fall in line with the rest of the league and make it all about race.
Caitlin Clark unfortunately part of the generation that was told that we have all the rights and everybody else has left behind!!!! what do you think she was gonna say? I don’t like it. I don’t agree with it, but that’s her right. She has to live with the consequences of that choice. I don’t give a shit about all this noise. Just show me some good basketball.
Thank you for your cogent thoughts regarding CC's Time interview. I never watched women play basketball at any level until I heard what CC was doing in her junior year at Iowa. My family watched her and she was amazing. She carried a team of 2, 3, and a 4 star recruits to the national championship two years in a row breaking a myriad of records along the way. She has "it"... She makes my family want to watch everything she does. Beyond that we learned of her charity work and saw her humility and fell in love and respect for her as a human being. You nailed it with your essay sir. CC earned Athlete of the Year through years of preparation in basketball, through being an amazing human being and community servant off the court, and by elevating her Fever team and an entire league into relevance. We will continue to watch CC in all her future endeavors because of the good things that happen around her.
I’d rather you break down her Stephanie White work out session.. you know basketball .. leave the drama for the guys looking for clickbait… I watched someone trying to breakdown the workout video and he kept saying “ I don’t see the benefit in that” and I thought to myself… if Carter was still posting he could explain the benefits of each drill.
No one read it. It takes about a half hour to read the entire piece. Most people won’t even read this comment because it’s too long for them. TIME even allows you to listen to the story as an audio recording and people didn’t take the time. If you take the entire piece in context, what she said about privilege is so trivial. I don’t like that she said it but it’s her life, she can say what she wants. I watch her for basketball. It really shows where people are at, that they chose to focus on the one semi controversial thing she said and not the 500 other really interesting things she or the author said. On both sides of the spectrum by the way. I believe her true fans will move past this but it’s totally fine for people to not like that she said it. The part I don’t like is she got this incredible award that no women’s basketball player will ever get again probably and she got almost no congratulations for it. It just got everyone mad. It’s also kind of weird to me that everyone thinks they have a right to tell this very mature, well spoken young lady how she should think and what she should say. We have this incredible talent that we may never see again unfolding right before our eyes and somehow it turns into a boring racial debate that has nothing to do with the reason she is so popular.
@@ericMTI agree with that. None of these ladies came out in mass and congratulated her. That is sad and these are the women that she wants to help elevate.
its so sad man - I think if you could go back in time to watch Jordan in his first year, would you do it? hell yeah! I think this is what we are seeing right now - the only people who aren't thanking their lucky stars for this are the WNBA! its wild!
Yes. Likability is huge. Caitlin has exceptional star power and that led me to start watching WNBA. Many of the best players in the league have very unlikable personalities or at least they present themselves that way. That said, I've become a big fan of Napheesa Collier because she's both a good basketball player and very likable.
I love your analyses. And I especially appreciate your realistic attitude about all this. You are so honest and realistic about a well brought up young woman who is truly gifted and committed to staying a good person and getting to the top of her craft. Im an older white woman who has truly worked to be non racist and I just so sad people that anyone believe I can’t appreciate great players of another race. At least Caitlin is working against the few negative people out there which also indicates her Christian values
Great video! You said it best. Where do we go from here? Can we forget about what she said and just enjoy watching her play or will her statement be so disappointing that we won't watch at all? I don't think next year will be as enjoyable as this year.
Interesting take. Appreciated the thoughtfulness. White 62 year old here. Personally, I grew up loving Dr. J and Michael Jordan. I found them super charismatic, and I loved the way they played. I got bored with the NBA by the time LeBron was taking over. Then CC came along, and last year, like you, I watched every single Indiana game. I found her to be charismatic, and I love the way she plays. It's smart, unique, and it's entertaining. It's great basketball. Somebody like an Angel Reese has phenomenal rebounding skills, but pretty much all of her other basketball skills are NOT strong at all. To me, I don't find enough entertainment value in just watching someone rebound. As for her comment in Time, I didn't find it offensive or unoffensive. I thought she was attempting to be thoughtful and appreciative of those she admires who built the league.
EVERY accolade you have earned Caitlin.. was EARNED FAIR AND MORE THAN SQUARE !!!!
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I love your commentary! You teach me something about the e fame every time I watch. Your analysis about C.C.’s choice of words is spot on and probably the best perspective that I’ve heard in it. Your not screaming to cancel her or stop watching you see it as, CC is wrong this is why and let’s get back to some basketball!!!!!! Can’t wait for the season to start!
It doesn’t matter what Clark says someone somewhere is going to find endless fault with it. Imagine the pressure on her shoulders if she said ‘boo’ they’d run her into the ground. 🙄
@@quasarrad1464 maybe she did. i say what i did cause people were telling her for over a year not to cave to these people cause itll never be enough. they wont be satisfied until she completely leaves the game and even still wont be, but some people just gotta learn the hard way
Morgan Freeman said it well... How are we going to get rid of racism? Stop talking about it! The more we talk about and differentiate based on race (positively or negatively), the deeper it becomes engrained in our consciousness and the less likely it is to become a non-issue... And maybe it's not totally fair in some ways, but it's the only way out and the only way MLK's dream becomes reality... I think you made your point pretty well, Carter...
That's not her job. She's neither their publisher or their agent. If these women can't figure out how to make their image more marketable, then how is it CC's job to do it outside of the new exposure she just recently brought?
To put this conversation in a nutshell is called the “ It “ factor. Skill, Character, and likability are a rare combination that only a few have been able to achieve.
My man, my respect level for you just went up exponentially! CC's comments on this, and the defending of DiJonai Carrington, were extremely disappointing..and I'm black. To me, this whole "privilege" debate is nothing more that an opportunity for racist people to cherry pick other people's blessings they perceive as better, in order to justify their own ignorant world view. And unfortunately, Caitlin played right into their hands. As a fan of hers this past year, all I ever hoped for was that she kick ass on the court, and stay out of the drama this activist league seems to be about. And unfortunately she just showed me that she will do and say whatever is necessary to gain the acceptance of the woke mean girls club, and for that reason I will never look at her the same way.
@quasarrad1464 22 is well old enough to understand the gravity of your words and actions. Especially for someone like her who's been groomed and prepared for this spotlight for some years. She's no ordinary 22 year old.
@@quasarrad1464 When I was 22 years old, I was serving with guys my age who had already done a tour or two in Iraq...and I was put in charge to lead them. I'm not saying that what CC does is combat, but don't tell me that a 22 year old is not mature enough to understand the gravity of the situation they have been prepared for. Especially when it comes to what they say and how they say it.
Very well said! Impressively articulate. I tried to watch the WNBA when they first started, but having watched the NBA my whole life, I just couldn't sit there and watch their ridiculous play. The women and the league made themselves unlikable before Caitlin ever stepped onto one of their courts, and they spent the whole season reinforcing that point of view. I think the WNBA franchise needs to step up and reinforce that they are in charge, not the players. I consider the Players Association as nothing more than a union. At the end of the day, they are employees that have been hired by these WNBA teams to do a job, period. They have been treating the league as an exclusive club, where their job is to screen new players, rejecting their membership if they don't meet their criteria. All they do is whine. It is very unbecoming. Keep up the good work Carter. Of all the TH-camrs covering Clark and the WNBA, you are my favorite and solidly at the top of my list.
She was pressured for a comment, and if she didn't comment then she'd be called out for that. So, if you were in her place, I'd like to know how you would have navigated this response.
I feel like she really just wanted to be respected for her basketball skills but shes been pulled into this culture war. She's just trying to navigate it to appease certain ppl. It's very unfair to her. Even the criticism she receives.
Yo man I like your content. I just got to know since u don't like Caitlin comment in her interview with time. What about Aja Wilson comment back in may where she said "it boils her blood when ppl say it's not about race".
The WNBA was built on the backs of NBA team owners who spent the money, created the contracts, found the locations to play, etc. The players, past and present, just showed up for a payroll check.
People don't go to see owners, people go to see athletic competition, hopefully with people who are good at their sport. Professional sports leagues don't exist without star athletes to fill them. Your chicken/egg argument is backwards.
Carter, you couldn't say it any better. The entire league...from top to bottom. are a hateful breed. Their jealousy and hypocrisy flows out of them at every turn. Caitlin comes along and single-handedly Raises Up a broken league and their constant drum beat is to focus on Anything But her talent, dedication, determination and her giving Spirit. Such a tragedy! My prayer is that they do not corrupt CC and mold her into one of them. The NBA and NFL started their downward spiral when they introduced DEI, Black Lives Matter, and other race-bating philosophies to divide the people. If it continues next year, they (the WNBA) will also plummet from the current standings into the abyss. No Paige, or JuJu, or Hannah or anybody will bring them back from that fall.
The league management should be promoting the league. Not laid on the shoulders of a rookie bullied into being a mouth piece. Where are the MVP and the Gold Medal Olympians, the senior players etc. The rookie got you charter flights, full stadium’s, recognition, bullied and physically abused with no protection from anyone. Then the rookie, one of the youngest in the league did what they wanted, and like all bullies it wasn’t enough, and never will be. Criticised for trying to right a perceived wrong. The league needs to look at its DEI, bullying and racist policies. As an outsider looking in, all 3 are in need of review and stricter application.
'There's no but there...' Thank you, Carter. I came back to WNBA because of Clark's beauty as a player...she randomly caught my eye in shorts from her University play, which caused me to WANT TO SEE HER PLAY IN THE WNBA. No other player over 20 yrs had caught my eye while scrolling SM, none no one. Thank you for your analysis. Peace~Out!!!
Carter, I’m shaking my head because the black female voices on social media, from players to WNBA media were SO LOUD calling for CC’s head, calling her racists, calling her popularity part of her privilege. So Loud. Where were the black voices equally as loud shutting shutting these voices down. NOW we’re addressing it explicitly but I don’t think she knew that those Loud voices were not representing all black people. Also did you see what Temi said? Even the black players that were cool with her were looking at her race as a factor. She was up against a wall and part of the angry mob were players she needed to get along with and earn trust with. I think black fans of CC needed to be just as loud as the mob that was coming for her.
CC doesn’t understand that she’s surrounded by bullies. Bullies set up no-win situations, it’s how they operate. In all endeavors, there will always be people eager to pull a winner down. There is true strength in being courageous, while bullying is simply the illusion of strength. CC is a great athlete. What she does and will do will live far beyond what others say. As a side note, I’m glad that Temi, for both Temi and CC sakes, will not be on the Indiana roster this coming year. Trust is like virginity. You can only lose it once.
Your absolutely correct she really never had to take this step I only watch the WNBA because of Caitlin I stopped watching after Tamika so black and white I just like good basketball from a black woman
My first comment I made was to suggest to you that you stay away from taking a political stance because I am a fan of YOU. I want to hear more content from you and don't want to see you get cancelled or discouraged. However, I more I think about it, I should be sharing your thoughts with others because the way you break it down will help people open their eyes and be open to see things differently.
Welcome back. Very well said! It really isn't about color. Blk Man in my late 60s. Love the way CC plays the game. Starting to see other girls and women step up their game. Rather watch WNBA. The ladies should love the game more than drama!🙏🏿🙏🏽🙏🏾
Carter. You are a talent. Your breakdown of CC game helped me see her greatness. I think all athletes should avoid politics. I follow sports as an escape so athletes bringing this up takes the joy away. I follow you for your analysis and would love for you to scout who the best possible free agents would be for CC. I would stay away from taking a political stance. It only polarizes people.
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Carter...I love your energy...and you have a gift to speak your thoughts or beliefs or what you see with clarity...never stop, because not everyone has that. That has nothing to do with the color of your skin.. I am a white guy from the north and I don't need you to be white or black. Wisdom is wisdom and I like your soul. I have been trying to articulate some of what you have said as I think of why I have liked her, and as she has great skill she also has a special charisma that I have noticed with footage of her high school days ...She has interaction with the crowd that many just don't, she understands people came to watch and she takes them with her. When she celebrates she does it with the crowd, the crowd thinks we just did that. Win the crowd win your freedom is the gladiator line. She has a hate to lose thing that all the greats have and it's like they are playing a game within the game and people can see that. The game with themselves that they hate not doing their best is another level of communication that cannot be seen by an announcer but the people can pick it up even if they can''t explain it. Sugar Ray Leonard was a boxer when I was in high school that our teams would meet at a friends house to all watch because he had that I hate to lose, and that sense of understanding the crowd, he was serious but he brought flare to the match.. Many others I could think of but he comes to my mind as I can not forget him. I am much older than you but would like to say never apologize for your gift its to serve others with. It's just a gift and it's not your value as a person but it is valuable. I am trying to say you are way more valuable than your gift or Charisma, but we need the gift.
You can’t please everyone. I’m from another country I’ve never heard of WNBA until Caitlin arrived. She is so exciting to watch and she seems very relatable with so much talent. It’s nothing to do with colour.
Carter, another great video! Caitlin prefaces her remarks with her admission of saying she had earned everything she has gotten, the "BUT" was what the Fever's publicity department had scripted for her to say as the spokesperson for the team and its interests. Time magazine did not just call Caitlin for an interview, and she threw on some sweats and headed over to the studio. This interview took weeks to take place, besides her photoshoots for the article, but she showed up with Hair coifed, manicured, pedicured, and her makeup was perfect, even her evening gown was probably $10k, and the way she kept pulling at the straps made me think she felt her tits were falling out. Every word was scripted and delivered in a professional manner. If anything positive can be said about the "White Privilege" comment it would be that it shut up Sherril Swoops on the Gil's Arena program, which is another record CC has broken this year. Why not do a retrospective video on how CC picks apart opposing defenses with her offense?
I'm a white guy, aged 60. I fully agree about the reasons for watching an athlete - any athlete. If they're exceptional at what they do, I notice. My guess is Caitlin Clark gave in to the pressure to make some sort of Statement. Players like Brianna Stewart and Kelsey Plum (I think) before her have too. They attained a certain level of prominence, it became a hoop they felt like they had to jump through. I'm just not inclined to get hugely exercised about it. Not when there are real problems. What do I think of as Real Problems? There are a lot things, but where race is concerned the big one is when institutions are manipulated to prevent or inhibit people from achieving their potential - to prevent people from voting, or getting a good education or a good job, or buying a home. This really doesn't apply to the WNBA. We should all remember no category of entertainment, including sports, is essential for survival. We have these things because we enjoy having them. It's a gift - a privilege, if you will - to have enough athletic talent that someone will pay you to play a game. That should be the baseline understanding. Now it's true, what women basketball players can expect to get paid is an order of magnitude less than what men get paid, but it took decades before they got to that point. Really, for any of the major team sports.
I agree with you completely. We must strive for a color blind society. The WNBA is only one example of this issue. It’s in every humanities department in every university, embedded in the public sector, on and on. I’m glad you confronted the issue. However, it’s now time to move on to Basketball.
Carter so glad you’re back because WNBA TH-camrs have been busy the past few months covering drama, drafts, rival leagues, CC of course. There HAS been content to cover even though the season ended. Stay tuned. Do some videos covering the stuff you missed. 😊 Welcome back!
You articulated your point clearly and concisely. I don't see you dragging it out like other podcasters to dissect each part of CC's interview to get clicks. Totally agree that we should talk basketball and not race. The problem is that people get sucked into the activists' agenda. Would love to hear more on college bball, and leave the drama behind.
I agree that this topic is relevant, because, despite some comments claiming that they want to just focus on Clark's basketball, we would not be interested Clark's basketball if we disliked _her._
The WNBA as a whole needs to revamped. The owners,the coaches, and the players for the most are not likable. They are jealous ,hateful , a lot of them cannot do interviews . Caitlin Clark worked hard and deserved all of her awards.
@@petep5207 the interview lasted all day. Did you read it? It’s very long and her comment was a few seconds from a super long interview. I’m not excusing it, I wish it wasn’t said but if you’ve followed her this year you know they just keep bugging her about it nonstop and now that she’s said something, in the future she can just say “I’m focused on basketball, I’ve already shared my thoughts on that”. I know you don’t believe me but we just have to wait and see how things play out. She just wants to play basketball and try to minimize distractions and by saying nothing, you know some people consider that to be racist. I’m not kidding. We are not dealing with intelligent people here and she’s making the best of a messy situation that she doesn’t deserve to be in.
@@ericMT it appears to me that she acknowledges her hard work for everything she has, so what part is the privilege? It's either she's just appeasing the ideological thinking of her fellow players or maybe she believes she only has her fans because of her being white. If she buys into the nonsense that we're only watching because she's white, that's extremely insulting to every fan!!! Some people here say she had to say something... I ask why? She already has the most fans ever, the best deals ever, why not just play ball and do what she does best? I don't care what side she's on, I suspect her politics are different from mine and that's ok. I only have an issue when players and celebrities' use that stage they have to be political. That stage wouldn't have been as tall without the dollars from the other side. It's a slap in the face for either side.
You are so spot on. Very smart analysis Carter. I believe we all feel like this. CC needs to distance herself from this rehtoric to have a great second season. Fans are disappointed with her to get into the 'R' dialog.
Thank You Carter!! I watch your videos not because you’re BLACK! But because you have the best game analysis both critical and super hyped when it deserves to be!You’ve got skills and break the game playing down like no other! You have taught me so much more about the game on another level. Yes there are levels to game analysis too! You’re the best, spit on that mic❤😂😂
3:49: Apparently that's what black women think, and that's probably the reason why all those black women see Caitlin Clark as a threat, because many black men love her.
Carter, I agree with much of what you said. I really wish Caitlin hadn’t said the things that she said. As a white person myself, it seemed she felt she had to apologize for being white which is ridiculous. As a fever fan and a fan of Caitlin Clark’s, I’ve been assumed to be racist. I also love the way she plays and it doesn’t have anything to do with her being white. As for white privilege, I think you have to look no further than the Appalachian area of the United States. I don’t think those white people feel very privileged. You mentioned slavery and I think maybe what you don’t understand is that white people have been slaves too. North African trade markets traded white European slaves from Spain, Portugal, France, England, and the Netherlands. The British also took white Europeans to America as slaves when they first came to this country so can we get past the slave narrative . On Twitter, black women have called Caitlin Clark the Mayo Princess, White Bread, and a teenage boy. What people fail to realize and we don’t talk enough about is the fact that, as far as the black players of the WNBA are concerned, we have a situation of racism against white people. And as far as elevating the black women of the league, that is not Caitlin Clark’s responsibility. It’s their job to elevate themselves!
Exactly. Caitlin plays like a guy. No, she doesn’t look like one. She’s skilled, aggressive and understands the court. She doesn’t look for opportunities for herself. She’s like a general looking at the entire field. She is also emotionally mature and a skilled communicator off the court. The expanded exposure has uncovered that this is lacking in most of the league. Their distaste for criticism proves this and is a hindrance to their growth of character.
@@DuaneL1961 I agree. While I do agree a lot of these ladies are really skilled, their antics have totally turned me off to them.
Carter, well put and well said. You hit the nail on the head when you talked about CC having both skill and likability. The Issue is that for years, the WNBA has not been likeable. As you said, they seemed to focus more on being activists than entertainers. What's sad is that when CC brought the eyeballs to the WNBA, they had the chance to show the fans that they COULD be likeable and worth watching. Instead they decided to show their entire butt and remain just as tasteless (if not even more so) as they were before CC came into the league. And worse yet, instead of having a moment of reflection and making changes to help turn things around, they doubled down on the obnoxiousness. (I will say there some players in the WNBA that realize the gold mine that is CC, and have adjusted to their benefit). My hope is that she is saying these things in order to foster peace in the WNBA. It's not gonna work, though, because, as they say, haters gonna hate...
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I think exactly why she said it. I think she wants peace. I also think she saw Brinks and Paige do it and felt that was expected of her. I also think she really admires these women and wants them to accept her.
I totally agree with Carter and the unlikeability of these women. That’s why it’s so hard for me to like A’ja.
I agree 98%… great comment
The sad thing is there will be no peace in the WNBA from those players because they believe they are victims of her personally. Like all of us born in an unjust world no matter where we live. This country exists with blacks who feel victimized and whites who feel victimized. It’s just ugly all around. Clark is only a small part of the USA and she won’t fix it but no one will say she doesn’t have her own beliefs.
I agree with you. I think Time may have manipulated the interview or even taken the quote out of context. (But Caitlin said she was happy with the article). She may have felt some pressure to keep the peace, as you suggested, but I hope that’s in the past. Let’s all move on and enjoy the Fever’s road to the championship!
Wow! You totally nailed it. It is insulting to fans because race has nothing to do with it and that’s why it made me upset.
I agree with your sentiments on this point. I wish I could upvote your video more than once.
I understand when people try to say that CC was talking about marketing opportunities, but I think Mr. Carter pointed out the character of some players that make the wnba unpopular.
Companies also look at character when they sign athletes to represent their products.
Do you remember the way A’ja talked down to Kelsey Plum? What happened with Britney Grinder? How polarizing Angel Reese was fresh out of college?
What large companies want to be associated with that?
Well, Angel has gotten some sweetheart endorsement deals. Some of those were NIL deals from college, plus she had Shaq helping her get the Reebok deal. But she reaches an entirely different market from Caitlin.
Exactly!!
She is a 22 year old trying to figure it all out. Balancing respect for the women that came before her & knowing she is the "it" girl that has changed women's BB forever.
Totally.
Imma give her a pass on that one. Probably countless people feeding that racial trash into her ear.
Funny when black women have comments like Caitlin’s, the reaction is “yeah preach sister!” When CC says it, the reaction is “what I don’t need no handouts from you?!!!?”
Not at all.
As ComvosWithCarter said, she brought race into all this again, and that's nefarious and unnecessary.
She can have all the respect in the world for those who came before her. We all do. Kobe showed many, many times how much respect he had for those that came before him, for those that taught him moves, skills and how to have work ethics.
What has "having respect for the women that came before her" got to do with race? NOTHING. Zero.
Her "IT" factor? What does her IT factor have to do with race? NOTHING.
Kelsey Plum, Breanna, Sophie, Lexie, Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi, Ticha Penicheiro - all white, all highly regarded, most of them became legends, and did they move the needle? No. No IT factor.
Race has NOTHING to do with cLark's success.
Nothing this 22 yo has said or done is by accident. She has been bullied and attacked physically and all she does is utter a protest to referees. She even had a guy come on court scream ra ci st things at her and threaten her (with a broken neck), and yet she did not succumb to pressure.
What she said was a lie, was planned and has set back the WNBA as ConvodmsWithCarter said.
That's how I look at it. CC is under constant media pressure, even with just having a camera focused on her all the time, everywhere she goes. I can't imagine that kind of pressure. Maybe she thought it would ease some of the scrutiny and criticism. But maybe this will be good learning experience for her and others who are constantly trolled by the agenda-driven woke types: never cater to them, never bow to their demands. Let your game do your talking.
They kept pushing her to say something ! She has been focusing on her gane !!
- she just want to give credit to the others that were there before her !
Credit that has been expressed by her more than enough, gets to be tiring at some point. When she did on SNL, that was alright..but repeatedly saying it when occasion calls for it, 'nuff already. The league itself didn't even do any such credit tribute to their history of players at their 25th anniversary//
You need to read the whole TIME article. She was asked questions about race all throughout it. We didn't get to see some of the questions, but they seem to be asking about A'ja's comments on race. A'ja said it "boils her blood" when people say it's not about race. Temi calls her "the great white hope" for America. She was hit with a lot of racial content. The article is free online to read 🙂 I would like your whole thoughts on it.
Temi really surprised me.
Aja sounds bitter
@@Sticks2mini2rsshe is bitter. She can’t be happy unless she is a victim.
@@Sticks2mini2rs ya think?
@@marisoltammero3331 I agree, and I was very disappointed by what Temi said. Especially since in the exit interview Temi did not take the bait to talk about race.
Dear Carter your analysis on or off the court are straight on point and when you look at this calmly there is nothing that you said in the video that I can disagree with. I can understand that CC is trying to buy or keep the peace but I think she will quickly realize that no matter what she say nothing will change their minds.
She already knows that 50% of the people will agree with her and the other 50% will not. She's much smarter than you think.
@@LoloLV24 it’s my time to Lol. How do you even know that 50% will agree with her? Huh? There are already a bunch of haters on her case those are not changing their minds anytime soon. There are people who are neither agreeing or disagreeing with her. And maybe just maybe it can be 50/50 for her fan base because if her fan base is left or right leaning it can make a huge difference in the 50/50 outcome. If you take all this together I highly doubt that you will get a 50/50 outcome but probability says otherwise.
I don’t think CC was talking about on the court, I think she was talking about opportunities off the court. Good to hear from you again.
Exactly. I think she was talking about marketing opportunities etc.
Spot on!
Why would the color of her skin give her privileges off the court?
I didn’t think about it like that…
yeah I agree - and in a country 57% white and 12% black I think there is a slight advantage (maybe 1% maybe 5%) in being the same skin color as your audience. This often comes with similar culture, language (some of the interviews with certain players almost seem like they are not even english!), family structure, etc. She is not tattooed up ball of muscle - she actually looks like a 'normal' girl - much more relatable to her audience.
Carter, for conversation I will echo your points:
1. When children are very young, they just evaluate whether strangers are Nice or Not Nice. That's all (unless they are "taught" to categorize further). By adulthood we complicate our assessments to varied levels - yet in the end we try to come back to whether someone is Nice (or likeable). The sad complication to this is Fear of Others - sometimes built on experiences, sometimes built upon taught biases.
2. The most Liked basketball player in history is/was Magic Johnson. - Growing up in Iowa, just 2 states near to Indiana, I still imprinted on Magic because he was the most charasmatic athlete that I had ever seen (possibly along with Muhammed Ali). He also led the most exciting basketball ever played/seen (Lakers Showtime). - Note: Yes, Jordan is the most admired, and the Bulls can argue with the Lakers & Celtics for GOAT team status, but Jordan was never Loved like Magic & the Bulls were never as exciting as the Lakers.
- Later in life, I've grown to love Bird's game as much as I feared it in the 80s. Still, in an all-time draft I am choosing Magic first (yes, over Jordan, and with doubts over Kareem) because - while both Jordan and Bird were better in all-around skill, Magic is the GOAT of making other players better...
3. Caitlin Clark is Magic Johnson. For those like me who were there (with Magic) we have deja vu - "Full court outlet pass... layup!. . . The ball is inbounded. . . deflection! Coming across half court. . 2 seconds. . .the ball is launched! Score!!! Only Magic Johnson, er ... only Caitlin Clark ladies and gentleman!! We will never see another player like this!!" - Kobe, Curry, & Bird smile knowing they could do it All, but no one has made Teams better like Magic, like Caitlin.
Epilogue: Growing up in Iowa, no one ever told me to not like Magic (or to prefer Bird) for any reason, let alone race.
Maybe THAT is a "privilege". As privilege is something unique, something better than the norm... Most of us who grew up in Iowa grew up without bias pollution. Our standards are on character: Earned results, Devotion, Loyalty, Humility, Corny Humor, Community, Charity. You see this Iowa character every time you see Caitlin Clark (as you can/ could have with Iowa's greatest sport's hero, the man who saved wrestling, Dan Gable).
And you don't have to be from Iowa to appreciate True Character. - It's not like Iowa is Heaven. - Millions resonate with her, seeing something that reminds them of their grandparents' hopes for the future, no one having to be told to like/not like Magic/Caitlin for anything but how they are with people. As you said Carter, CC is great with people. Her name is as simple as multiplying her universal appeal X her unparalleled skills.
The truth is, everyone would love Clark (as it was once allowed to be easy to love Magic), if they were allowed to grow up like Iowans.
P.S. We can end all of this noise in one move. Get Juju (or another hyped rival to Clark's legacy) to transfer to Iowa. Everyone will see that we will Adopt her as One of Our Own, as we have everyone who takes a chance to brave our winters & visit our hospital. Then there will be nothing else to do but share the cheer.
@@destinypirate Showtime Lakers was something to behold! I agree Caitlin has that same magic passing. But then add on the logo 3s and it’s incredible.
@quasarrad1464 I rewrite part of this... Wish we could Time Machine open mindedness and the valuing of character forward.
Carter, I agree. White Privilege was not involved in the rise of the numbers for Women's College Basketball, it was about the high speed and energy that Clark brought to Women's College Basketball. She took so many records in college and then in her first year of the WNBA, that was NOT privilege it was hard play and hard work.
Agreed… but can you imagine the reaction if CC said “WNBA activist players are unlikable and don’t have skill?” I am laughing just thinking of the shitstorm that would bring.
That's what I wish she would say, LOL.
I'm a lifelong Iowa Hawkeyes fan. There is an excellent video out called Growing the Game. Well worth watching. This is how a great coaches does the game the way it should be. No agenda just basketball and a coach who truly loves her players.
You are an intelligent young man, I’m 69, I wasn’t expecting such clarity when I clicked on your video, just curious. I fully agree with your analysis. Clark should have ended her statement after she said she earned it. The rest is addressing what they call WOKE issue. I’ve watched many BLACK in many different sports from James Brown, Dr J, Wilt Chamberlain, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Ali to Curry James and the present. Most are Black! It was their TALENT that I admired! I didn’t care about the COLOR of their skin! I watch Clark for the same REASON:she’s talented and her Catholic parents raised a GREAT woman, very respectful and classy! As a Christian I find the rest of the WNBA to repugnant because of their lifestyle so I’ve never watched any of the so called “greats” play though I knew of them. Clark is the best woman basketball player. That’s why I watch her and being a good Catholic girl is a bonus. I like morally upright people, if you’re an a$$hole, I don’t want anything to do with you.
Read that first sentence again but put the emphasis on the word HAVE and then pause after. It changes the meaning. Now she is saying she has earned everything, but she will acknowledge the fact that white privilege exists. I think a lot of this is in response to DJ Carrington saying "it must be nice to have the luxury of staying silent on the issues. etc. She was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Also she was asked a direct question on the subject, now what do you want her to do? Refuse to answer like Sheryl Swoops? you want her to say, "piss off, I hate all those black women who have beat the shit out of me all season"? No, she said the only thing she could to try and diffuse a situation that could go off like a roman candle if handled wrong. Did you see her reaction live to meeting Maya Moore, the girl was hero struck. that was not faked, she loves Ms Moore. She is not a racists and ... this rant is too long. CC really wants to play basketball and stop the drama madness.. Lets cut her some slack.
they are two opposite things, earned and privilege cancel each other out, there is no other way to read that sentence
@isabellascalzitti9524 I don't really agree though I get your point. Imagine 2 players - one from a well off family, one from a very poor one (leaving race out of it). They both work just as hard. Its likely the well off one has more opportunities, and the best equipment, better coaches. Probably they will end up slightly better with the same effort. Lots of factors of course but it is easier. In the league you have Flauje Johnson - whos father was a rapper who was killed before she was born. If I said that about a player and asked was that player was white or black, I'm betting most people will say 'black'. Privilege does not get rid of hard work - but it might make things 5% easier.
@@joelutting so where was the privilege when she was at Dowling Catholic!? Was time magazine interviewing her back then as well.
@isabellascalzitti9524 That’s very close minded thinking. “My way is the only way”.
Carter is clear minded on this. Leave race out and stop making excuses for the “buts!”
So I just found you and I listened to everything you had to say and it was pretty good content. I have to say I was impressed
Thank you sir I agree with you on Caitlin, I'm watching from Namibia 🇳🇦 in Africa, you spoke exactly what I thought about everything.
Hooray ! You're back !!! I am skipping the drama, but when I saw the thumbnail for this video, I just had to see what "you" had to say about it. As always, you have a fresh, unique take. looking forward to hearing more from you !!
Critical thinking is rare these days. The truth is brutal to the activists I applaud your courage to say it. You have a bright future.
If she was asked a question about privilege, I can see how it would be appropriate to bring up socioeconomic privilege. Many players, including Caitlin Clark and Aja Wilson, grew up in the upper middle class and thus were able to dedicate more time and resources to their development as players.
Girls who grow up in single parent households or households with lesser financial means will likely face more struggles. I know we minimalize it today, but over $100 for basketball shoes that will get worn out quickly with high level play is no joke for a family without a lot of spare funds.
That is an issue that affects all races in a very tangible way.
That’s hugely important. Look at players like Aliyah Boston and Jonquel Jones, they moved from Borgin Islands and Bahamas as kids to have an opportunity at basketball which they then worked on in high school and college away from home. It was a huge sacrifice for them. Not to mention the countless players whose parents had to sacrifice a lot and the kids who didn’t have family with stable finances.
That would make sense if this was hockey. Basketball is a very low ntry to start playing.
@@AceFlexFitness0007 If you have ever struggled to pay bills, then you know that $100 for shoes is a high level of entry.
I agree with you! Hope you don’t get too much backlash for speaking truth and honestly commenting on your perspective! Caitilin is young and has been being pressured all season to become an activist, so I’m not surprised she caved, but I was disappointed. Still excited to watch next season and for your analysis after games!!
I appreciate your boldness and your passion! Your opinion is yours, but is shared by many. Myself included.
Carter you nailed it and I completely agree. And I must say it again that if Caitlin was black and everything else about her was the same then I would still like her just as much.
First: great video and I really enjoyed hearing your opinion on this topic.
Second:
Congratulations to Caitlin Clark for winning TIME magazine athlete of the year!
…said no one. It’s all just criticism of one sentence in a many thousand word article. A powerful sentence, yes I agree. and it didn’t need to be there. TIME didn’t have to include it but they love that sort of thing. They aren’t a sports magazine and I’m sure they kept asking and asking until she said something.
We all hate the activists. But it makes me sad to see everyone turn this amazing accomplishment into yet another racial issue. I have heard almost no one celebrate this achievement and it just makes me sad as someone who is trying to appreciate her basketball accomplishments.
Did anyone ever consider that this white girl from a white town playing in white schools until the WNBA maybe has been influenced to think this way? Look at the disgusting questions she’s been asked over the season regarding race and her fans etc. She just can’t win. She’s not perfect which is why we shouldn’t idolize athletes.
That said, I hope she learned from this experience and understands that she just needs to focus on her game and not try to please everyone. She’s well spoken, friendly, polite, and one of the least problematic players in the league and she’s organically lifting up all other players in the WNBA just by being there.
Like I said, I appreciate your opinion and you did a good job here. I basically agree with everything you said but I’d like to move on and just enjoy her as a generational basketball talent and that’s it. There is white privilege in a way (she’s a novelty at first) but there’s also black privilege for other players (too many things to mention), especially in the WNBA. It’s better if we just stop talking about it. It doesn’t matter. Basketball matters.
Sorry for the long comment but if you didn’t read this, you definitely didn’t read the TIME article. It’s about 100 times longer than this comment. Go read or listen to it, it’s really good.
Great job Carter. No one else has mentioned the fact that what she said is a shot at the fans. Hopefully CC doesn't fall in line with the rest of the league and make it all about race.
Great commentary! Love your honest thoughts and opinions!
Caitlin Clark unfortunately part of the generation that was told that we have all the rights and everybody else has left behind!!!! what do you think she was gonna say?
I don’t like it. I don’t agree with it, but that’s her right. She has to live with the consequences of that choice. I don’t give a shit about all this noise. Just show me some good basketball.
Thank you for your cogent thoughts regarding CC's Time interview. I never watched women play basketball at any level until I heard what CC was doing in her junior year at Iowa. My family watched her and she was amazing. She carried a team of 2, 3, and a 4 star recruits to the national championship two years in a row breaking a myriad of records along the way. She has "it"... She makes my family want to watch everything she does. Beyond that we learned of her charity work and saw her humility and fell in love and respect for her as a human being. You nailed it with your essay sir. CC earned Athlete of the Year through years of preparation in basketball, through being an amazing human being and community servant off the court, and by elevating her Fever team and an entire league into relevance. We will continue to watch CC in all her future endeavors because of the good things that happen around her.
Good to see you back, i was wondering where u went ,good job
I’d rather you break down her Stephanie White work out session.. you know basketball .. leave the drama for the guys looking for clickbait… I watched someone trying to breakdown the workout video and he kept saying “ I don’t see the benefit in that” and I thought to myself… if Carter was still posting he could explain the benefits of each drill.
Yeah I'd like that
Carter has a brilliant mind for analyzing basketball. He'd be a great person to analyze the workouts.
You are more mature than C.C. I continue to be impressed with you.
You always have good opinions.
She gives herself credit in other places in the article. It's a really good piece, and i recommend you read the whole thing.
No one read it. It takes about a half hour to read the entire piece. Most people won’t even read this comment because it’s too long for them. TIME even allows you to listen to the story as an audio recording and people didn’t take the time. If you take the entire piece in context, what she said about privilege is so trivial. I don’t like that she said it but it’s her life, she can say what she wants. I watch her for basketball.
It really shows where people are at, that they chose to focus on the one semi controversial thing she said and not the 500 other really interesting things she or the author said. On both sides of the spectrum by the way. I believe her true fans will move past this but it’s totally fine for people to not like that she said it. The part I don’t like is she got this incredible award that no women’s basketball player will ever get again probably and she got almost no congratulations for it. It just got everyone mad. It’s also kind of weird to me that everyone thinks they have a right to tell this very mature, well spoken young lady how she should think and what she should say.
We have this incredible talent that we may never see again unfolding right before our eyes and somehow it turns into a boring racial debate that has nothing to do with the reason she is so popular.
@@ericMTif CC believes her 'white privilege' as the reason she has all her fans, that would be kind of insulting to every fan wouldn't it?
@@ericMTI agree with that. None of these ladies came out in mass and congratulated her. That is sad and these are the women that she wants to help elevate.
its so sad man - I think if you could go back in time to watch Jordan in his first year, would you do it? hell yeah! I think this is what we are seeing right now - the only people who aren't thanking their lucky stars for this are the WNBA! its wild!
Yes. Likability is huge. Caitlin has exceptional star power and that led me to start watching WNBA. Many of the best players in the league have very unlikable personalities or at least they present themselves that way. That said, I've become a big fan of Napheesa Collier because she's both a good basketball player and very likable.
I love your analyses. And I especially appreciate your realistic attitude about all this. You are so honest and realistic about a well brought up young woman who is truly gifted and committed to staying a good person and getting to the top of her craft. Im an older white woman who has truly worked to be non racist and I just so sad people that anyone believe I can’t appreciate great players of another race. At least Caitlin is working against the few negative people out there which also indicates her Christian values
Great to see you back, would love your analysis on Wembanyama games!
Great video! You said it best. Where do we go from here? Can we forget about what she said and just enjoy watching her play or will her statement be so disappointing that we won't watch at all? I don't think next year will be as enjoyable as this year.
Interesting take. Appreciated the thoughtfulness. White 62 year old here. Personally, I grew up loving Dr. J and Michael Jordan. I found them super charismatic, and I loved the way they played. I got bored with the NBA by the time LeBron was taking over. Then CC came along, and last year, like you, I watched every single Indiana game. I found her to be charismatic, and I love the way she plays. It's smart, unique, and it's entertaining. It's great basketball. Somebody like an Angel Reese has phenomenal rebounding skills, but pretty much all of her other basketball skills are NOT strong at all. To me, I don't find enough entertainment value in just watching someone rebound. As for her comment in Time, I didn't find it offensive or unoffensive. I thought she was attempting to be thoughtful and appreciative of those she admires who built the league.
Missed you !! Glad your back on my feed !!
EVERY accolade you have earned Caitlin.. was EARNED FAIR AND MORE THAN SQUARE !!!!
I love your commentary! You teach me something about the e fame every time I watch. Your analysis about C.C.’s choice of words is spot on and probably the best perspective that I’ve heard in it. Your not screaming to cancel her or stop watching you see it as, CC is wrong this is why and let’s get back to some basketball!!!!!! Can’t wait for the season to start!
Game not fame….
It doesn’t matter what Clark says someone somewhere is going to find endless fault with it. Imagine the pressure on her shoulders if she said ‘boo’ they’d run her into the ground. 🙄
if youre gonna be hated either way, you might as well be hated for doing the right thing. and she did bend on this
@@stevenwoods5787this is really amazing. Thanks.
@@abvincent12 I couldn’t agree more.
@@stevenwoods5787 I think she thought this is the right thing for her.
@@quasarrad1464 maybe she did. i say what i did cause people were telling her for over a year not to cave to these people cause itll never be enough. they wont be satisfied until she completely leaves the game and even still wont be, but some people just gotta learn the hard way
Morgan Freeman said it well...
How are we going to get rid of racism? Stop talking about it!
The more we talk about and differentiate based on race (positively or negatively), the deeper it becomes engrained in our consciousness and the less likely it is to become a non-issue... And maybe it's not totally fair in some ways, but it's the only way out and the only way MLK's dream becomes reality...
I think you made your point pretty well, Carter...
Problem is so many racists just love talking about race.
So good to hear from you, Carter. You put thought and heart into this. It was focused, fair and perfectly delivered. Thank you 🙏🏼
Good job! looking forward to more of your videos! 👍👍
I believe she was talking about marketing opportunities…she knows she put in the work. She’s relatable and secure and pays respect to others!
Exactly !!
Y'all are lying. It's okay to like Caitlin & say she dropped the ball with her comments.
That's not her job. She's neither their publisher or their agent. If these women can't figure out how to make their image more marketable, then how is it CC's job to do it outside of the new exposure she just recently brought?
You are one of my favorite people to listen to sir...keep up the good work!!🎉🎉
To put this conversation in a nutshell is called the “ It “ factor. Skill, Character, and likability are a rare combination that only a few have been able to achieve.
We're just glad that you're back!
My man, my respect level for you just went up exponentially! CC's comments on this, and the defending of DiJonai Carrington, were extremely disappointing..and I'm black. To me, this whole "privilege" debate is nothing more that an opportunity for racist people to cherry pick other people's blessings they perceive as better, in order to justify their own ignorant world view. And unfortunately, Caitlin played right into their hands. As a fan of hers this past year, all I ever hoped for was that she kick ass on the court, and stay out of the drama this activist league seems to be about. And unfortunately she just showed me that she will do and say whatever is necessary to gain the acceptance of the woke mean girls club, and for that reason I will never look at her the same way.
@@stephengrinkley9889 I think you’re being too hard on this 22 year old who just wants to get along with the people in her league and not get attacked
@quasarrad1464 22 is well old enough to understand the gravity of your words and actions. Especially for someone like her who's been groomed and prepared for this spotlight for some years. She's no ordinary 22 year old.
@ You must not be very life experienced to think that
@@quasarrad1464 When I was 22 years old, I was serving with guys my age who had already done a tour or two in Iraq...and I was put in charge to lead them. I'm not saying that what CC does is combat, but don't tell me that a 22 year old is not mature enough to understand the gravity of the situation they have been prepared for. Especially when it comes to what they say and how they say it.
@ Serving your country is a lot different than playing basketball. Some 22 year olds have the maturity, some don’t. All I’m saying
Very well said! Impressively articulate.
I tried to watch the WNBA when they first started, but having watched the NBA my whole life, I just couldn't sit there and watch their ridiculous play.
The women and the league made themselves unlikable before Caitlin ever stepped onto one of their courts, and they spent the whole season reinforcing that point of view.
I think the WNBA franchise needs to step up and reinforce that they are in charge, not the players.
I consider the Players Association as nothing more than a union. At the end of the day, they are employees that have been hired by these WNBA teams to do a job, period.
They have been treating the league as an exclusive club, where their job is to screen new players, rejecting their membership if they don't meet their criteria.
All they do is whine. It is very unbecoming.
Keep up the good work Carter. Of all the TH-camrs covering Clark and the WNBA, you are my favorite and solidly at the top of my list.
She was pressured for a comment, and if she didn't comment then she'd be called out for that. So, if you were in her place, I'd like to know how you would have navigated this response.
I feel like she really just wanted to be respected for her basketball skills but shes been pulled into this culture war. She's just trying to navigate it to appease certain ppl. It's very unfair to her. Even the criticism she receives.
Another excellent commentary.
Looking forward to watching CC and your commentary’s in the coming WNBA season.
Yo man I like your content. I just got to know since u don't like Caitlin comment in her interview with time. What about Aja Wilson comment back in may where she said "it boils her blood when ppl say it's not about race".
A'ja's comment made me instantly dislike her. Everything I've seen from her since has reinforced that.
Welcome back, you have been missed. As usual, you are spot on with your takes.
The WNBA was built on the backs of NBA team owners who spent the money, created the contracts, found the locations to play, etc.
The players, past and present, just showed up for a payroll check.
People don't go to see owners, people go to see athletic competition, hopefully with people who are good at their sport. Professional sports leagues don't exist without star athletes to fill them. Your chicken/egg argument is backwards.
@@elmarko9051 They can buy an athlete dime a dozen, they're completely interchangeable.
@@elmarko9051 Pro sports leagues don't exist without money. Your eggs didn't hatch any viewers for 27 years.
Carter, you couldn't say it any better. The entire league...from top to bottom. are a hateful breed.
Their jealousy and hypocrisy flows out of them at every turn.
Caitlin comes along and single-handedly Raises Up a broken league and their constant drum beat is to focus on Anything But her talent, dedication, determination and her giving Spirit. Such a tragedy!
My prayer is that they do not corrupt CC and mold her into one of them.
The NBA and NFL started their downward spiral when they introduced DEI, Black Lives Matter, and other race-bating philosophies to divide the people.
If it continues next year, they (the WNBA) will also plummet from the current standings into the abyss. No Paige, or JuJu, or Hannah or anybody will bring them back from that fall.
You are very intelligent and very knowledgeable with great presentation as well
I agree and like everything convos with carter is saying and i like everything Caitlin said. I will have to listen better to get to his point.
Perfectly said, as always. I agree 100%.
The league management should be promoting the league. Not laid on the shoulders of a rookie bullied into being a mouth piece. Where are the MVP and the Gold Medal Olympians, the senior players etc.
The rookie got you charter flights, full stadium’s, recognition, bullied and physically abused with no protection from anyone. Then the rookie, one of the youngest in the league did what they wanted, and like all bullies it wasn’t enough, and never will be. Criticised for trying to right a perceived wrong. The league needs to look at its DEI, bullying and racist policies. As an outsider looking in, all 3 are in need of review and stricter application.
'There's no but there...' Thank you, Carter. I came back to WNBA because of Clark's beauty as a player...she randomly caught my eye in shorts from her University play, which caused me to WANT TO SEE HER PLAY IN THE WNBA. No other player over 20 yrs had caught my eye while scrolling SM, none no one. Thank you for your analysis. Peace~Out!!!
With the exception of Smith, the rest of the Fever players are the nicest and classiest players in the league.
Bro youre on point!! Thank you very much!
Carter, I’m shaking my head because the black female voices on social media, from players to WNBA media were SO LOUD calling for CC’s head, calling her racists, calling her popularity part of her privilege. So Loud. Where were the black voices equally as loud shutting shutting these voices down. NOW we’re addressing it explicitly but I don’t think she knew that those Loud voices were not representing all black people. Also did you see what Temi said? Even the black players that were cool with her were looking at her race as a factor. She was up against a wall and part of the angry mob were players she needed to get along with and earn trust with. I think black fans of CC needed to be just as loud as the mob that was coming for her.
CC doesn’t understand that she’s surrounded by bullies. Bullies set up no-win situations, it’s how they operate. In all endeavors, there will always be people eager to pull a winner down. There is true strength in being courageous, while bullying is simply the illusion of strength. CC is a great athlete. What she does and will do will live far beyond what others say.
As a side note, I’m glad that Temi, for both Temi and CC sakes, will not be on the Indiana roster this coming year. Trust is like virginity. You can only lose it once.
Let's find new stupid reasons to criticize Caitlin. I am NOT for the drama.
Yeah can we just go back to criticizing her turnovers or her lackluster defense? Those were the days.
@@ericMTAre you watching her workouts. Looks like she is working on that.
It's not stupid.
You gonna do any Unrivaled content?
AGREED....love CC. Very well said. Privilege doesn't put the ball in the basket nor increase passing accuracy.
Your absolutely correct she really never had to take this step I only watch the WNBA because of Caitlin I stopped watching after Tamika so black and white I just like good basketball from a black woman
I agree with you 100%. I too was disappointed by her comments.
My first comment I made was to suggest to you that you stay away from taking a political stance because I am a fan of YOU. I want to hear more content from you and don't want to see you get cancelled or discouraged. However, I more I think about it, I should be sharing your thoughts with others because the way you break it down will help people open their eyes and be open to see things differently.
She wants to elevate , she should have said the Woman’s WNBA
No just black women !
That would be the right stance to hold.
Welcome back. Very well said! It really isn't about color. Blk Man in my late 60s. Love the way CC plays the game. Starting to see other girls and women step up their game. Rather watch WNBA. The ladies should love the game more than drama!🙏🏿🙏🏽🙏🏾
Carter. You are a talent. Your breakdown of CC game helped me see her greatness. I think all athletes should avoid politics. I follow sports as an escape so athletes bringing this up takes the joy away. I follow you for your analysis and would love for you to scout who the best possible free agents would be for CC. I would stay away from taking a political stance. It only polarizes people.
Love, love, love you. So glad you're back
Well said, 👍👍👍
Love your insights. You have been missed.
🤔🔥🎯Yo you said that's so right you was right on the nail nobody can say that better than what you how you said that I'm going to Echo this out your video cuz people needed this message🔥❤🎯
Carter...I love your energy...and you have a gift to speak your thoughts or beliefs or what you see with clarity...never stop, because not everyone has that. That has nothing to do with the color of your skin.. I am a white guy from the north and I don't need you to be white or black. Wisdom is wisdom and I like your soul. I have been trying to articulate some of what you have said as I think of why I have liked her, and as she has great skill she also has a special charisma that I have noticed with footage of her high school days ...She has interaction with the crowd that many just don't, she understands people came to watch and she takes them with her. When she celebrates she does it with the crowd, the crowd thinks we just did that. Win the crowd win your freedom is the gladiator line. She has a hate to lose thing that all the greats have and it's like they are playing a game within the game and people can see that. The game with themselves that they hate not doing their best is another level of communication that cannot be seen by an announcer but the people can pick it up even if they can''t explain it. Sugar Ray Leonard was a boxer when I was in high school that our teams would meet at a friends house to all watch because he had that I hate to lose, and that sense of understanding the crowd, he was serious but he brought flare to the match.. Many others I could think of but he comes to my mind as I can not forget him. I am much older than you but would like to say never apologize for your gift its to serve others with. It's just a gift and it's not your value as a person but it is valuable. I am trying to say you are way more valuable than your gift or Charisma, but we need the gift.
You can’t please everyone. I’m from another country I’ve never heard of WNBA until Caitlin arrived. She is so exciting to watch and she seems very relatable with so much talent. It’s nothing to do with colour.
The true will set you free ❤️🕊️ We don’t care if Caitlin Clark is Green. She is a Awesome Basketball Player 🏀💫💫💫💫
Carter, another great video! Caitlin prefaces her remarks with her admission of saying she had earned everything she has gotten, the "BUT" was what the Fever's publicity department had scripted for her to say as the spokesperson for the team and its interests. Time magazine did not just call Caitlin for an interview, and she threw on some sweats and headed over to the studio. This interview took weeks to take place, besides her photoshoots for the article, but she showed up with Hair coifed, manicured, pedicured, and her makeup was perfect, even her evening gown was probably $10k, and the way she kept pulling at the straps made me think she felt her tits were falling out. Every word was scripted and delivered in a professional manner.
If anything positive can be said about the "White Privilege" comment it would be that it shut up Sherril Swoops on the Gil's Arena program, which is another record CC has broken this year.
Why not do a retrospective video on how CC picks apart opposing defenses with her offense?
It's great to have you back. Another great Carter analysis.
I'm a white guy, aged 60. I fully agree about the reasons for watching an athlete - any athlete. If they're exceptional at what they do, I notice.
My guess is Caitlin Clark gave in to the pressure to make some sort of Statement. Players like Brianna Stewart and Kelsey Plum (I think) before her have too. They attained a certain level of prominence, it became a hoop they felt like they had to jump through. I'm just not inclined to get hugely exercised about it. Not when there are real problems.
What do I think of as Real Problems? There are a lot things, but where race is concerned the big one is when institutions are manipulated to prevent or inhibit people from achieving their potential - to prevent people from voting, or getting a good education or a good job, or buying a home. This really doesn't apply to the WNBA.
We should all remember no category of entertainment, including sports, is essential for survival. We have these things because we enjoy having them. It's a gift - a privilege, if you will - to have enough athletic talent that someone will pay you to play a game. That should be the baseline understanding. Now it's true, what women basketball players can expect to get paid is an order of magnitude less than what men get paid, but it took decades before they got to that point. Really, for any of the major team sports.
I agree with you completely. We must strive for a color blind society. The WNBA is only one example of this issue. It’s in every humanities department in every university, embedded in the public sector, on and on. I’m glad you confronted the issue. However, it’s now time to move on to Basketball.
Carter so glad you’re back because WNBA TH-camrs have been busy the past few months covering drama, drafts, rival leagues, CC of course. There HAS been content to cover even though the season ended. Stay tuned. Do some videos covering the stuff you missed. 😊 Welcome back!
You articulated your point clearly and concisely. I don't see you dragging it out like other podcasters to dissect each part of CC's interview to get clicks. Totally agree that we should talk basketball and not race. The problem is that people get sucked into the activists' agenda.
Would love to hear more on college bball, and leave the drama behind.
Agreed! I watched Caitlin because of her skills, professionalism, dedication and knowledge of the game, and infectious mannerisms! ❤
You keep it real. I watched you during the season because I liked your honesty and frankness.
Have yet to find anything I disagree with.
I agree that this topic is relevant, because, despite some comments claiming that they want to just focus on Clark's basketball, we would not be interested Clark's basketball if we disliked _her._
The WNBA as a whole needs to revamped. The owners,the coaches, and the players for the most are not likable. They are jealous ,hateful , a lot of them cannot do interviews . Caitlin Clark worked hard and deserved all of her awards.
She was asked a question about it. She didn't just bring it up herself.
Cut the BS excuses. She's a grown woman. She could have said ANYTHING...but she CHOSE to say THAT.
@@petep5207 the interview lasted all day. Did you read it? It’s very long and her comment was a few seconds from a super long interview. I’m not excusing it, I wish it wasn’t said but if you’ve followed her this year you know they just keep bugging her about it nonstop and now that she’s said something, in the future she can just say “I’m focused on basketball, I’ve already shared my thoughts on that”. I know you don’t believe me but we just have to wait and see how things play out. She just wants to play basketball and try to minimize distractions and by saying nothing, you know some people consider that to be racist. I’m not kidding. We are not dealing with intelligent people here and she’s making the best of a messy situation that she doesn’t deserve to be in.
@@ericMT Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. The woman just wants to play basketball.
@@ericMT it appears to me that she acknowledges her hard work for everything she has, so what part is the privilege?
It's either she's just appeasing the ideological thinking of her fellow players or maybe she believes she only has her fans because of her being white. If she buys into the nonsense that we're only watching because she's white, that's extremely insulting to every fan!!!
Some people here say she had to say something... I ask why? She already has the most fans ever, the best deals ever, why not just play ball and do what she does best?
I don't care what side she's on, I suspect her politics are different from mine and that's ok.
I only have an issue when players and celebrities' use that stage they have to be political. That stage wouldn't have been as tall without the dollars from the other side. It's a slap in the face for either side.
@@petep5207 If she had declined to answer it would look worse. Lol.
You are so spot on. Very smart analysis Carter. I believe we all feel like this. CC needs to distance herself from this rehtoric to have a great second season. Fans are disappointed with her to get into the 'R' dialog.
Thank You Carter!! I watch your videos not because you’re BLACK! But because you have the best game analysis both critical and super hyped when it deserves to be!You’ve got skills and break the game playing down like no other! You have taught me so much more about the game on another level. Yes there are levels to game analysis too! You’re the best, spit on that mic❤😂😂
I agree with you 100 %. Excellent presentation, thank you.
3:49: Apparently that's what black women think, and that's probably the reason why all those black women see Caitlin Clark as a threat, because many black men love her.
Carter, I agree with much of what you said. I really wish Caitlin hadn’t said the things that she said. As a white person myself, it seemed she felt she had to apologize for being white which is ridiculous. As a fever fan and a fan of Caitlin Clark’s, I’ve been assumed to be racist. I also love the way she plays and it doesn’t have anything to do with her being white. As for white privilege, I think you have to look no further than the Appalachian area of the United States. I don’t think those white people feel very privileged. You mentioned slavery and I think maybe what you don’t understand is that white people have been slaves too. North African trade markets traded white European slaves from Spain, Portugal, France, England, and the Netherlands. The British also took white Europeans to America as slaves when they first came to this country so can we get past the slave narrative . On Twitter, black women have called Caitlin Clark the Mayo Princess, White Bread, and a teenage boy. What people fail to realize and we don’t talk enough about is the fact that, as far as the black players of the WNBA are concerned, we have a situation of racism against white people. And as far as elevating the black women of the league, that is not Caitlin Clark’s responsibility. It’s their job to elevate themselves!
You're so wise. 💯! I missed your videos. Truth!