I suppose be a good supply ship. Stroke movable space station for sleepy quiet colonys of little importance. But right in battle you'd do better with 3 defiant class ships
In theory the Miranda has more firepower than Constitution, if only they didn't all came with that same factory hard coded shields remote control code ...
Could be to minimize the embarrassment if accidentally seen de-cloaked. "They've spotted us!" "Damn, did they at least look impressed?" "Affirmative, lots of nodding and a couple thumbs-ups! Pretty sure I saw one of them getting out their phone and taking a picture."
What I loved about the Expanse stealth ships was that they demonstrated how terrifying stealth ships would be. You can't see it coming unless it wants you to see it. You can't stop it until it's close enough to tear you apart in moments.
@@QualityPen A big part of stealth in space is heat and they could use the heat sinks and then radiate the heat out in a direction that would not expose them. The rest of the formula ends up looking a lot like the F-117 which the Amun-Ra emulates beautifully.
I adore stealth vessels, I love these ships to death. Seeing a grounded and realistic stealth ship is something that never ceases to make me happy. The Amun-Ra-class is my favourite thing to come out of The Expanse, and that's saying a lot. I'd really like to see more stealth stuff in the future.
That's certainly some shit that needs to be explored. I don't recall seeing many ships in sci-fi that actually feature toilets. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is the bog onboard the submarine in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn Galactica is the only ship where dramatic scenes were filmed in the bathroom, admittedly it was public unisex and large. And every cabin in Trek had a bathroom in that alcove to the right, along with a sonic shower (just ask gratuitous naked B'lana). Oh I just thought of _another use_ of the micro transporter and exographic targeting sensor that were fitted on the TR-116 (the sniper rifle from DS9 that could teleport it's bullet in front of you). Those technologies have to be controlled, and fitted with synthahol lockouts, or drunk cadets… …
I remember in the old dark Forces computer game there was the level where you were attacking the corellian Corvette on Ramsey's head, and one of the rooms was a bathroom
The Amun-Ra is also my #1 choice. I'll never forget the scene in ep. 4 where the unidentified ship decelerating towards the Donnager reveals itself to be 4 baddest ass stealth warships. So far this is THE best implementation of stealth tech in any film or TV show. I absolutely love it.
What makes it work so well for me is that you look at it, and you know it's a stealth ship. There are no weird magical devices inside that turn your smooth, glowing ball of pure radar reflection invisible. The stealth factor of this ship comes from its exterior design
It’s not an implementation of stealth tech. The Anum-Ra would show up like I giant “I’m right here!” sign on thermal imaging. It’s generating MW to GW levels of energy. All that has to leave the ship as thermal radiation. The books make mention of temporarily offloading the heat to internal water and later jettisoning it, but there’s no way the levels of heat generated by the stealth ships could be hidden for longer than a matter of minutes- maybe several hours. It takes days to maneuver within a planet’s space. It takes months to years to maneuver between planets. Moreover, stealth would be broken the moment the ship uses weapons or uses thrusters. From the perspective of its enemies, they’d see a ship moving towards them for days and then maybe disappear from thermal for an hour, during which time it’d be unable to do anything. If they know the enemy knows of ships, they could just extrapolate the ship’s position based on its velocity before going dark and launch a missiles at it, then make a minor course correction to avoid ever coming within 10,000 km of the stealth ship.
Yeah those would have fit perfectly. Designed for fast in/exfil operations and minelaying etc. Also they look really nice and there are different classes around. The Point Blank- class looks like its right out of the Expanse universe but around the same size of a Donnager.
Miranda Class is pretty well armed and decently fast even into later eras, it's just not all that durable and without the cloak as a crutch it suffers.
the Miranda class is cool but what they did with her was apaling.. They simply kept reusing the model in a history set 100 years later.. same as with the Excelsion and Oberth class just to save money reusing the models.. why we dont see more Constellations (a design delivery created for TNG and suposed to be more modern) or ambassadors .. or for the same logic more Constitutions.. even having the Soyuz class "mod" they only showed one.... I never coulg get why the top sci-fi show of the time was going so cheap .. and then they had the Mirandas and Excelsiors being poor performers for what we saw onscreen
I Love the Normandy SR-2 from Mass Effect 3 because of its Interior layout, like the war room were you can see your fleets and allys throughout the war against the Reapers but I also love the Amun-Ra class and I'm absolutely behind you for the pros and cons of this awesome vessel. By the way great Video.
@@filiphastik4493 the last book is an excellent way of ending all the main plotlines, but the ending is honestly really disappointing in a sense. I wont give away any spoilers since the book is still relatively new but it's basically impossible to create any large-scale lore in the post-book time period.
@@blubberyoyster4 to be fair, the Oberth-class is a lightly armed and shielded science vessel. It also probably best represents the Federation's ideals.
9:15 I knew that was coming the moment I clicked on the notification. Edit: I also really like the Sahara-Class Heavy Prowler from Halo as a dedicated stealth ship.
How about a BOTTOM Five Sci-Fi Stealth Ships? I don't know about the other 4, but my pick would be the TIE Stealth from Rebel Assault II. It was not custom built, it was a re-purposed system patrol craft, didn't really have the size or power output to be able to use a cloaking field, and the scaled-down cloak-technology didn't even work reliably, making it just another failed "wunderwaffe" of the Empire! The game it stared in was a lot of fun though.
Here an idea for a future video: cool or unique means of space travel or FTL in sci-fi. Can cover everything from your standard hyperdrives to 40k’s shortcut through the Hell dimension that is the Warp
i think the coolest one and the most unique one was in altered carbon. They basically transport their conscience across star systems in electromagnetic beams. Basically they travel at the speed of light.
Part of why I love the Phantom from SW:TOR is that part of the design ideas is that it's meant to look like an unarmed diplomatic ship, so that even when uncloaked it didn't look like a threat.
my fave is Normandy SR2 [Alliance colors] but I admit the amun-ra class is one hell of a ship, even losing 90% of the fleet taking out the Donnager, even a single ship was a hell of a force to be reckoned with.....a small squadron like that that can take out a dreadnaught is a powerful force.....
I'm actually surprised you didn't include the stealth viper from BSG, considering it was hand build by the crew and allowed them to get in the middle of the cylon fleet close enough to get up close photos
@@matthewday7565 Absolutely. It's in the top three for most frightening vessels in Star Trek along with the Borg Cube and Dominion Battleship. It's also by far the most beautiful (IMO of course).
The Phantom is my favorite, followed by the Normandy, but I have to say that I also really like what they did with the Nebula Stealth Cruiser from FTL.
"Yeah, one of the most sophisticated ships we've seen on the show" Well let me add the single word "yet" to that sentence. There is some interesting stuff coming as the timeline of the expanse progresses. Overall really good picks. Just for Star Wars I'd definetly go with the clone wars stealth corvette. The submarine atmosphere of that thing is just unbeatable (great episode).
because its stealth was a luxury afforded by the romulan star empire. plus the scimitar was overkill for a stealth ship and yet a dinky b'rel makes the list.
A great episode, I especially liked the Normandy being mentioned, but something is missing. The Scimitar Class Reman Warbird - The Cloak is Perfect. Really not a stealth/spy vessel, but the perfect cloaking device alone should have rated a mention.
gphoenix51 The Scimitar's cloaking was perfect because it most likely had more than one cloaking device, which is implied to be the case by dialogue from "Star Trek: Nemesis". Also, the Scimitar was probably also equipped with the most advanced Romulan cloaking device(s) that Shinzon and his followers could get their hands on.
I love the Phantom because it's designed to be both a luxury vessel and a stealth combat vessel. You know, for when you get boarded and you're just like, "What do you want? This is clearly just a civilian yacht and I'm clearly just rich enough to afford blaster cannons, concussion missiles, torpedo launchers, and military-grade armor plating and shield generators. There's very obviously nothing suspicious about this ship or any of my heavily armed... passengers..."
@@markmulder9845 it's more similar to the Normandy from Mass effect 1. It's not heavily-armed with weapons. it meant to go in scout the enemy forces and deploy a spec ops team and stop with what the enemies doing in that area.
I'm fully aware. I'm saying this as the ships he listed have higher combat abilities than a prowler. Other than that, prowlers are dedicated stealth craft that I believe should have been up here.
@@markmulder9845 yeah that's true but for the sr1 Normandy can someone show me the weapons for that. I always thought it was under arm for a frigate even a stealth frigate
Daniel, This was a superb video. I completely agree with the picks. I also Finally got a name for the Battlestar in BSG Blood and Chrome. The Orion Class is a top notch stealth ship. Now a request: Top 5 Battleship/Carrier hybrids.
4:36 shower wit a module that can be pulled out to form a toilet. (Conserves space)(many camper vans use all in one bathrooms, where the toilet is in a side compartment of the shower.)
I agree, they are truly fascinating, they are like ghosts in space, waiting and watching you in the darkness and the cold of the void. I think we're still going to see some of that sneaky technology, probably on a Martian navy ship.
@@RoballTV Well the Scimitar IS a stealth ship but arguably also a bigass Warship....even if he doesn't like it, the Scimitar should still be mentioned because Captain Kang's Bird of Prey was kind of similar in the sense that it could fire while cloaked and the latter was included in the video 🤔
I knew that the Expanse would be number one, you have impeccable taste. Still the most brutal stealth thingy I have ever read about is definitly Marco Inaros stealth "very large rock". That was a real nightmare weapon when you think about it...
My favorite one is actually the MCRN ballistic platform in the Expanse. I just love its symmetric and very sleek design. Also judge from the world of the Expanse, I actually think the ballistic platform is more stealthy than the stealth frigate.
Anti missle missles make alot of sense for space ships, since they give you true 360 degree protection pretty easily with them. Sadly people think tracer fire looks cooler
The original Battlestar Galactica's 2nd. Season Galactica: 1980's improve Vipers & Turbo Cycles we're equipped with stealth when they finally got here to Earth. Love that new edition. Stargate SG-1's puddle jumper. Babylon 5's Shadows ships and technomage ships, no love for DS9's USS Defiant.
The Orion was actually just featured in the fanfic _Invincible_ by Darth Marrs. And honestly, more people should check out that fanfic in any case, it's an amazing blend of magic and sci-fi. If you're after the sci-fi bits, you do have to wait several chapters, but they're well into the Galactica crossover by now, and it's fraking awesome.
The Gamillon subspace submarine from Space Battleship Yamato 2199 was a really good stealth ship. It hid in another dimension and could fire torpedoes at ships in realspace from there.
You forgot the Griffin from starcraft 2 who's captain is nova. It is designed to do covert operations also the crew is made up of dominion ghosts who are specifically designed humans to be sent on stealth missions. Maybe it's not worth a spot on the list but maybe an honourable mentions?
I'd throw in a few extras: from the Honorverse, the Mesan Alignment's Shark- and Leonard Detweiler-class battleships (plus the virtually unarmed Ghost-class scout frigates): equipped with a Spider drive that rendered them virtually undetectable to the gravimetric sensors that formed the primary detection methods of their contemporaries, albeit at a fraction of the possible acceleration, and equipped with low-signature stealthed weapons pods for long-range strikes, they are excellent silent killers. Unfortunately, the hull configuration, and mass/cubage required by the Spider meant they were unable to mount conventional drives as well, nor to project the "sidewall" shields other navies used for protection, meaning they were slow and vulnerable... if something spotted them. From the Jenkinsverse, the Drunker On Turkeyer (no, seriously, that's what it's called): the personal flagship of Great Father Daar of the Gao, fitted with the very best in drives and capacitors for boisterous sub-light manoeuvring and frankly ridiculous FTL speeds, radar-absorbent stealth composite hull, a generous EWAR suite (they can't see you if you've blinded them), a shield designed to redirect virtually all of an attack's energy back at an attacker as a gamma-ray laser, or dump a ship's waste heat out through the same system in a directed stream away from enemies to reduce noticeable emissions. Add to that a large battery of railguns, missiles, lasers and potentially access to wormhole-delivered ordnance (via their alliance with Earth, although once the Dark Eye nanofact can be repurposed from the rebuilding of Gao, it's likely that capacity would be used to build up their own strategic weapons reserve), and it's one hell of a bruiser that'll likely only be seen if they want to be.
Hi Daniel Today you make me lmao with "handy prefab coffin for 400 Federation officers" and "incendiary grenade". About the 4th ship, the sith stealth ship, I would pick the The Tempest from Mass Effect Andromeda.
The Tempest isn't really a fully minted stealth ship. Its an explorer ship, that happens to have some stealth features, thus it not included in this list
I wonder if Normandy-class ships have proper silent-running protocols. Something in the vein of deactivating all non-essential systems to minimise heat generation. Especially in the event of a passive drift that the Codex mentions, that can be maintained for days. Turn off the artificial gravity like ships are described as doing in combat, deactivate internal heaters since it's going to get warm in there soon enough regardless, turn down the lighting...
Hey Spacedock. If you're interested, there's an anime that's all about space combat called: "Starship Operators". It's about more realistic space combat. There's even an episode where the heroes face off against a stealth ship. I highly recommend it.
Have you finished Tiamats wrath yet? And when you do can you do a breakdown of the Magnator dreadnought “the Tempest” or maybe the “eye of the storm” destroyer????
My Theory for the B'Rel is that the Klingon Engineers left a lot of room for future upgrades and that they made the spaceframe so durable and versatile that the empire has never seen a reason to get rid of them. besides the Klingons really love their plucky little starships capable of bringing their enemies to their knees.
That SW ship is gorgeous, if you look at the nose you can recognise the sr-71 spyplane, especially the black patch where the cockpit would have been. Sadly no toilet lol
or if it does actually have engines, they are entirely inaccessible for maintenance and the empire just buys a new ship every time they start having engine trouble which sounds like a very empire thing to do
I don’t think Daniel describing things as being very cool will ever be lost on me:) but hey I’m here watching and commenting so that irony isn’t lost either:)
Looking at the interior of the phantom, I think it actually has a toilet. If you look next to the crew quarters, you can see locked door, just about the size of a toilet. Sure, there could be just about anything behind the door (minimap, or the picture of the interior layout don't display this room), but given their location, probable size of the room and the absence of a toilet anywhere else on the ship, I'd say it is safe to assume there is a toilet.
The Romulan Bird of Prey from the Star Trek original series episode Balance of Terror is the OG stealth ship and the defacto #1 stealth ship. Though I may just think that because I'm old. 😊 The Expanse has spoilt me though. It makes all other sci-fi TV harder to watch.
The Miranda may have been relegated to a support ship, but the Excelsior remained effective enough to match the Defiant, despite being nearly as old as the Miranda.
1:00 I differ in opinion re: the Klingon B'rel Bird of Prey vs the Romulan T'Varo Warbird (the updated version of the T'Liss) & after all, at least in StarTrek canon, few if any out-do the Romulans when it comes to stealth & cloaking. After all, the Klingons got it from the Romulans, & both ships were seen in ST canon series to be able to fire projectiles while cloaked. Altho at least in the StarTrekOnline game, they're both relatively small, fast, maneuverable, sneaky & pack a punch, the B'rel tops the T'Varo in speed & agility while the T'Varo tops the B'rel in stealth & sheer firepower. My characters there have both ships so I speak from experience in STO. Anyway, great video from a lifetime SciFi fan dating from the days of the 1st manned flights into space.
My number one favorite stealth ship is Darth Maul's personal custom freighter: The Scimitar. I love it's sleek design and color schematics, the green engins and dark hull create a beautifull yet sinister aesthetic. And it's armament of 6 laser canons is nice too. Though the X-7OB Phantom is gorgeous too.
That Miranda Class burn was savage...though accurate. "Prefab coffin."
I suppose be a good supply ship. Stroke movable space station for sleepy quiet colonys of little importance. But right in battle you'd do better with 3 defiant class ships
In theory the Miranda has more firepower than Constitution, if only they didn't all came with that same factory hard coded shields remote control code ...
1:37
That made me chuckle because of how true it is😂😂
@@thomas.parnell7365 I'd say you'd do better with 1 Defiant-class over 3 Miranda-class ships.
God, why are stealth ships always the best looking if we never see them?
To awe and distract you so when they de-cloak they can easily blow you up ;-)
@@azean84 To buy them those extra miliseconds until the enemys neurons have finally fired up ^^
Because they are so expensive they might as well look as sexy as they are.
Could be to minimize the embarrassment if accidentally seen de-cloaked. "They've spotted us!"
"Damn, did they at least look impressed?"
"Affirmative, lots of nodding and a couple thumbs-ups! Pretty sure I saw one of them getting out their phone and taking a picture."
They're self-conscious about their looks, as many beautiful individuals are.
What I loved about the Expanse stealth ships was that they demonstrated how terrifying stealth ships would be. You can't see it coming unless it wants you to see it. You can't stop it until it's close enough to tear you apart in moments.
And it’s also physically impossible. Its thermal signature would have been detected from millions of km away.
ok???
I think the German U-Boats demonstrated that in the early days of WWII
@@QualityPen A big part of stealth in space is heat and they could use the heat sinks and then radiate the heat out in a direction that would not expose them. The rest of the formula ends up looking a lot like the F-117 which the Amun-Ra emulates beautifully.
Don't forget the SSV Normandy's greatest asset... she has the best damn pilot in the Systems Alliance!
I adore stealth vessels, I love these ships to death. Seeing a grounded and realistic stealth ship is something that never ceases to make me happy. The Amun-Ra-class is my favourite thing to come out of The Expanse, and that's saying a lot. I'd really like to see more stealth stuff in the future.
We need "Top 5 sci-fi ships that need a damn toilet"
That's certainly some shit that needs to be explored. I don't recall seeing many ships in sci-fi that actually feature toilets. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is the bog onboard the submarine in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus.
@@GmodPlusWoW I'm pretty sure there are restrooms on the Galactica. Other than that I can't really tell.
In the future, poop is teleported directly from your colon to the engine exhaust nozzles.
You could get 6 from The Old Republic alone.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn Galactica is the only ship where dramatic scenes were filmed in the bathroom, admittedly it was public unisex and large.
And every cabin in Trek had a bathroom in that alcove to the right, along with a sonic shower (just ask gratuitous naked B'lana).
Oh I just thought of _another use_ of the micro transporter and exographic targeting sensor that were fitted on the TR-116 (the sniper rifle from DS9 that could teleport it's bullet in front of you).
Those technologies have to be controlled, and fitted with synthahol lockouts, or drunk cadets… …
You got to help on the Expanse?! Jealous!!
No kidding.
I tried to do my Top 5 Stealth ships once, but it didn't turn out well. I managed to lose them all...
I see what you did there......wait no I don't
*claps slowly*
The lack of a toilet aboard a Sith stealth ship might explain why they are so cranky all the time.
Let the hate flow through you...
No, through you, not out of you!
It's not a Sith ship. It's Imperial Intelligence.
The dark side of the force leads to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. Including the ability to not expel inner waste
I wouldn't be surprised, if the Sith on board just didn't even eat and drink for the duration of the mission.
I remember in the old dark Forces computer game there was the level where you were attacking the corellian Corvette on Ramsey's head, and one of the rooms was a bathroom
Never thought I'd hear Daniel complement a ship for its beautiful wood paneling
The Amun-Ra is also my #1 choice. I'll never forget the scene in ep. 4 where the unidentified ship decelerating towards the Donnager reveals itself to be 4 baddest ass stealth warships. So far this is THE best implementation of stealth tech in any film or TV show. I absolutely love it.
What makes it work so well for me is that you look at it, and you know it's a stealth ship. There are no weird magical devices inside that turn your smooth, glowing ball of pure radar reflection invisible. The stealth factor of this ship comes from its exterior design
It’s not an implementation of stealth tech. The Anum-Ra would show up like I giant “I’m right here!” sign on thermal imaging.
It’s generating MW to GW levels of energy. All that has to leave the ship as thermal radiation.
The books make mention of temporarily offloading the heat to internal water and later jettisoning it, but there’s no way the levels of heat generated by the stealth ships could be hidden for longer than a matter of minutes- maybe several hours. It takes days to maneuver within a planet’s space. It takes months to years to maneuver between planets.
Moreover, stealth would be broken the moment the ship uses weapons or uses thrusters.
From the perspective of its enemies, they’d see a ship moving towards them for days and then maybe disappear from thermal for an hour, during which time it’d be unable to do anything.
If they know the enemy knows of ships, they could just extrapolate the ship’s position based on its velocity before going dark and launch a missiles at it, then make a minor course correction to avoid ever coming within 10,000 km of the stealth ship.
ONI Prowlers from Halo would be a great pick too. Their properties are especially well described in several of the Halo books.
Yeah those would have fit perfectly. Designed for fast in/exfil operations and minelaying etc. Also they look really nice and there are different classes around. The Point Blank- class looks like its right out of the Expanse universe but around the same size of a Donnager.
"A handy prefab coffin for 400 Federation officers-"
Thanks, dude. I really wanted to choke on my coke and get it all over my desk. Really, thanks.
You didnt mention it but the oni prowler is alsa a very good stealth ship
Yes thankyou
chris sonofpear1 do they need so many prowlers?
Don't bother, Spacedock doesn't acknowledge any franchise that isn't SW, ST, Battlestar or The expanse. Especially Halo.
Jayden Dimaio hes done it before
Jayden Dimaio heres a few things he’s acknowledged halo, stargate, space battleship yamato to name a few
Spacedock throws shade at the Miranda-class?
Instant like.
Miranda Class is pretty well armed and decently fast even into later eras, it's just not all that durable and without the cloak as a crutch it suffers.
the Miranda class is cool but what they did with her was apaling..
They simply kept reusing the model in a history set 100 years later.. same as with the Excelsion and Oberth class just to save money reusing the models.. why we dont see more Constellations (a design delivery created for TNG and suposed to be more modern) or ambassadors .. or for the same logic more Constitutions.. even having the Soyuz class "mod" they only showed one....
I never coulg get why the top sci-fi show of the time was going so cheap .. and then they had the Mirandas and Excelsiors being poor performers for what we saw onscreen
"Pre-fab coffins" made me chuckle.
I Love the Normandy SR-2 from Mass Effect 3 because of its Interior layout, like the war room were you can see your fleets and allys throughout the war against the Reapers but I also love the Amun-Ra class and I'm absolutely behind you for the pros and cons of this awesome vessel. By the way great Video.
Wait, what?! You were responsible for helping the Expanse? These ships gave me chills when I first saw them in the show.
Spot on job m8!
Ahh, the Anubis!
Currently I am up to book 7 of the expanse and just introduced to the Tempest.
and she is one hell of a ship!
Maan, I envy you... I'll have to wait about a year till it's translated to my language. How is the last book?
@@filiphastik4493 Try it in English, it's not like Isaac Asimov, it's written to a very pedestrian level
Its briefly seen in the expanse season 6.
@@filiphastik4493 the last book is an excellent way of ending all the main plotlines, but the ending is honestly really disappointing in a sense. I wont give away any spoilers since the book is still relatively new but it's basically impossible to create any large-scale lore in the post-book time period.
@@protege1717 thats the construction platform, not the tempest itself
Klingon Bird of Prey - the U-boat of the Star Trek Universe
To be fair the entire Star Trek ship interiour design and Combat basics are based of U-boats.
That would be the Romulan War Eagle. See the original series' episode where they first introduced the Romulans.
Prefab coffin for 400 Starfleet officers... best description of the Miranda class ever
Oberth class science vessel also fits that description
@@blubberyoyster4 o yes 1 phaser emittor. Be better off in a eva suit with a phaser rifle near the airlock
@@blubberyoyster4 to be fair, the Oberth-class is a lightly armed and shielded science vessel. It also probably best represents the Federation's ideals.
9:15 I knew that was coming the moment I clicked on the notification.
Edit: I also really like the Sahara-Class Heavy Prowler from Halo as a dedicated stealth ship.
I thought the exact same thing. The Expanse is truly awesome. "Exactly what science fiction should strive to be" - Daniel, Spacedock
“Handy prefab coffin[Miranda Class] for 400 people.” ~Spacedock
The Miranda was a damn good ship …
In the time of Kirk.
Still looked cool until the moment before it got polaron beamed or some crazy space thing befell the crew.
Ahhh yes a ship made from pure explodium with c4 packed inside of the consoles for good measure.
This is actually 10 through 6 of the top 10. The top 5 haven't been found yet.
The Honor Harrington novels didn't forget about counter-missiles.
Ah someone else who's reads' David Webber the Tom Clancy's of SCI FI books ('Oops!')🤓
How about a BOTTOM Five Sci-Fi Stealth Ships?
I don't know about the other 4, but my pick would be the TIE Stealth from Rebel Assault II.
It was not custom built, it was a re-purposed system patrol craft, didn't really have the size or power output to be able to use a cloaking field, and the scaled-down cloak-technology didn't even work reliably, making it just another failed "wunderwaffe" of the Empire!
The game it stared in was a lot of fun though.
Here an idea for a future video: cool or unique means of space travel or FTL in sci-fi. Can cover everything from your standard hyperdrives to 40k’s shortcut through the Hell dimension that is the Warp
Late to this comment, but the honor Harrington books use a pair of gravity wedges almost like sails to accelerate extremely fast
i think the coolest one and the most unique one was in altered carbon. They basically transport their conscience across star systems in electromagnetic beams. Basically they travel at the speed of light.
Shadow Cruisers from Babylon 5 would have been on my top 5 list
YES! Thank you!
Also wondering if the Technomage ship from Crusade classes as stealth?
But they are not really stealth, It's how they phase in and out of hyperspace. Besides, they don't really need to hide from pretty much anyone.
Considering the Shadows themselves are "cloaked" they have the ultimate level of camouflage, nevermind their ships! 😅
Expanse fanboy detected.
Which is fine, because the expanse is amazing!
Expanse has realistic ships!
Part of why I love the Phantom from SW:TOR is that part of the design ideas is that it's meant to look like an unarmed diplomatic ship, so that even when uncloaked it didn't look like a threat.
my fave is Normandy SR2 [Alliance colors] but I admit the amun-ra class is one hell of a ship, even losing 90% of the fleet taking out the Donnager, even a single ship was a hell of a force to be reckoned with.....a small squadron like that that can take out a dreadnaught is a powerful force.....
I love it. “No toilet”! Did they just use the Star Trek Replicators to “transporter” the crap out of you? Lol
I'm actually surprised you didn't include the stealth viper from BSG, considering it was hand build by the crew and allowed them to get in the middle of the cylon fleet close enough to get up close photos
No Romulan D'Deridex-class Warbird? Daniel, you're breaking my heart!
Much scarier than the Klingon when it decloaks
@@matthewday7565 Absolutely. It's in the top three for most frightening vessels in Star Trek along with the Borg Cube and Dominion Battleship. It's also by far the most beautiful (IMO of course).
The D'Deridex's definitely isn't a stealth ship, it's a battleship that happens to have cloaking device
Me: He'd better do Amun-Ra. He'd better do Amun-Ra. He'd better do Amun-Ra...
YEEEAAAAAAAHHH!!
Scout/Stealth ship (SS) Chuck’s Favorites 2019 June 14
5. Romulan V-8 class Bird of Prey Cruiser (Star Trek)
4. Carrion Spike stealth corvette (Star Wars)
3. Blackbird stealth fighter (Battlestar Galactica 2003)
2. Phantom Cruiser (Space Ghost)
1. Klingon K-22 B'rel (D'Gamma) Bird of Prey Scout (Star Trek)
The Phantom is my favorite, followed by the Normandy, but I have to say that I also really like what they did with the Nebula Stealth Cruiser from FTL.
I love that in the expanse we have a lot of stuff named after Egyptian deities warms my heart
The Normandy: A list-crasher, if I've ever seen one. It seem like it's in a lot of lists, regardless of the criteria. ;)
Gets first commission as a Starfleet Officer: YES
Sees first posting is on a Miranda Class: Pikachu face
Could be worse, could be a *Oberth …*
Remember it's made out of explodeanium.
The _U.S.S Expendable_
ST:O in a nutshell.
Better than being sent to a planet in deep space and near the border of some evil species..
Pre watching: Iconic wise: "B'rel" Bird of Prey
but realistic I throw in to the ring: Expanses "Amun-Ra"
ding ding ding
All starships use the blackadder 2 toilet system.
You crap out of the window ( full ventilation and wide guttering below)
Andy Brooks hell yes!
Stealth ships? I don't see any stealth ships around here.
"Yeah, one of the most sophisticated ships we've seen on the show" Well let me add the single word "yet" to that sentence. There is some interesting stuff coming as the timeline of the expanse progresses.
Overall really good picks. Just for Star Wars I'd definetly go with the clone wars stealth corvette. The submarine atmosphere of that thing is just unbeatable (great episode).
How did the Defiant not make this list?!
*nerd rage intensifies*
great video for real tho
because its stealth was a luxury afforded by the romulan star empire.
plus the scimitar was overkill for a stealth ship and yet a dinky b'rel makes the list.
It's not a dedicated stealth ship. He *specifically* says at the start that things that have stealth/a cloaking device as an add-on were excluded.
A great episode, I especially liked the Normandy being mentioned, but something is missing. The Scimitar Class Reman Warbird - The Cloak is Perfect. Really not a stealth/spy vessel, but the perfect cloaking device alone should have rated a mention.
gphoenix51 The Scimitar's cloaking was perfect because it most likely had more than one cloaking device, which is implied to be the case by dialogue from "Star Trek: Nemesis". Also, the Scimitar was probably also equipped with the most advanced Romulan cloaking device(s) that Shinzon and his followers could get their hands on.
@@GarfieldofBorg All of that makes sense, I mean it had redundant everything pretty much. And it had the ability to partially drop its cloak.
Can you do a top 10 hero ships? Id love to hear your take on the best hero ships that are aesthetically pleasing and practical designs.
In defence of the Puddlejumper, it is built to observe primitive civilisations which would detect it by sight ....just felt i needed to defend it
I love the Phantom because it's designed to be both a luxury vessel and a stealth combat vessel. You know, for when you get boarded and you're just like, "What do you want? This is clearly just a civilian yacht and I'm clearly just rich enough to afford blaster cannons, concussion missiles, torpedo launchers, and military-grade armor plating and shield generators. There's very obviously nothing suspicious about this ship or any of my heavily armed... passengers..."
Reminds me of a Nubian Yacht
I'm sad that the UNSC prowlers isn't in this but overall a good list
They are no better than The B'rel, probably
Prowlers have little to no combat ability. I'm saying that as a person who was also disappointed prowlers didnt show up
@@markmulder9845 it's more similar to the Normandy from Mass effect 1. It's not heavily-armed with weapons. it meant to go in scout the enemy forces and deploy a spec ops team and stop with what the enemies doing in that area.
I'm fully aware. I'm saying this as the ships he listed have higher combat abilities than a prowler. Other than that, prowlers are dedicated stealth craft that I believe should have been up here.
@@markmulder9845 yeah that's true but for the sr1 Normandy can someone show me the weapons for that. I always thought it was under arm for a frigate even a stealth frigate
When I saw this pop up in my feed I automatically knew what the last two ships would be.
Daniel,
This was a superb video. I completely agree with the picks.
I also Finally got a name for the Battlestar in BSG Blood and Chrome. The Orion Class is a top notch stealth ship.
Now a request: Top 5 Battleship/Carrier hybrids.
Great list. The Amun-Ra definitely deserves to be the top of the list.
No Romulan Warbird :(
Romulans had the original stealth ship.
@@thitsugaya1224 they also had the best looking ships
@@moosue9744 Agreed.
Honorable mentions,. Halo's - Prowler Stealth Corvettes and, or ONI's "Stealth Cruiser'" - The UNSC Point of No Return.
@@chrissonofpear1384 I thought, I messed that class up. Correction made, thanks
4:36 shower wit a module that can be pulled out to form a toilet. (Conserves space)(many camper vans use all in one bathrooms, where the toilet is in a side compartment of the shower.)
I love the Amon Ra. It’s my favourite ship in the show and I’d love to see them come back in the next book somehow. Not likely but they’re cool
I agree, they are truly fascinating, they are like ghosts in space, waiting and watching you in the darkness and the cold of the void.
I think we're still going to see some of that sneaky technology, probably on a Martian navy ship.
What about the Scimitar from Star Trek Nemesis? I mean damn. Shinzon's Scimitar is a badass STEALTH-DREADNOUGHT 😁👌
If I remember right he doesn't like that ship, because it's too hollywood 'badguy superweapon' ish.
Kinda agreed, still a guilty pleasure though ^^
@@RoballTV Well the Scimitar IS a stealth ship but arguably also a bigass Warship....even if he doesn't like it, the Scimitar should still be mentioned because Captain Kang's Bird of Prey was kind of similar in the sense that it could fire while cloaked and the latter was included in the video 🤔
I knew that the Expanse would be number one, you have impeccable taste. Still the most brutal stealth thingy I have ever read about is definitly Marco Inaros stealth "very large rock". That was a real nightmare weapon when you think about it...
I really love the stealth ship from TCW that later became Tarkin's personal vessel, the Carrion Spike.
My favorite one is actually the MCRN ballistic platform in the Expanse. I just love its symmetric and very sleek design. Also judge from the world of the Expanse, I actually think the ballistic platform is more stealthy than the stealth frigate.
Anti missle missles make alot of sense for space ships, since they give you true 360 degree protection pretty easily with them. Sadly people think tracer fire looks cooler
Wait.
Hold on.
BACK UP.
YOU GOT TO WRITE ON THE EXPANSE?!?
Deets.
NAO.
No need for toilets in Trek. Just call for an emergency beamout. Condition brown.
Wait, you contributed a ship design for the Expanse show?
Cant wait untill a few more season go by and we can see the magnetar class some actual specs would be nice on that thing.
The original Battlestar Galactica's 2nd. Season Galactica: 1980's improve Vipers & Turbo Cycles we're equipped with stealth when they finally got here to Earth. Love that new edition. Stargate SG-1's puddle jumper. Babylon 5's Shadows ships and technomage ships, no love for DS9's USS Defiant.
none of those were designed as stealth ships, especially the defiant as that was a combat vessel designed to fight the borg
The Orion was actually just featured in the fanfic _Invincible_ by Darth Marrs. And honestly, more people should check out that fanfic in any case, it's an amazing blend of magic and sci-fi. If you're after the sci-fi bits, you do have to wait several chapters, but they're well into the Galactica crossover by now, and it's fraking awesome.
The Gamillon subspace submarine from Space Battleship Yamato 2199 was a really good stealth ship. It hid in another dimension and could fire torpedoes at ships in realspace from there.
You forgot the Griffin from starcraft 2 who's captain is nova.
It is designed to do covert operations also the crew is made up of dominion ghosts who are specifically designed humans to be sent on stealth missions. Maybe it's not worth a spot on the list but maybe an honourable mentions?
10/10 agree.really glad normandy and amun-ra got in here
7:00: Kind of appropriate because tomorrow will be the 75th anniversary of D-Day
Features of the Normandy-class Stealth Reconnaissance Frigate
Length: 127m
Armorments
> Main gun: 114m spinal mounted mass accelerator with an estimated yield of 114 tons of TNT
> Secondary weapons: Javelin Disruptor torpedo tubes(short range anti-shield torpedos)
> Defenses: Ablative Ceramic-composite armor, kinetic-barriers, GARDIAN point-defense lasers
Propulsion
> 4x rear mounted Anti-proton Thrusters
> 2x forward mounted Anti-proton Thrusters
> Hydrogen-oxygen maneuvering thrusters
Internal Emissions Sink(IES) Stealth Systems
> Lithium Heat sinks(hide heat signature
> Tantalus Mass Effect Drive core(proportionally twice the size of a standard mass effect drive. Creates mass concentrations ahead of the ship that pull the Normandy-class along without the use of thrusters).
> Activate hull refrigeration
Interior
> Deck 1 - Combat Deck: Bridge, Combat Information Center(CIC), Comm/Debriefing room
> Deck 2 - Crew Deck: Cafeteria, Co's Cabin, Medbay, Sleeper pods
> Deck 3 - Cargo: Cargo Hold/Vehicle Bay(can carry upto 4 ground vehicles), Engineering
3:03 it looks like a stealth sbip, which i love because i've never i stealth ship actually look like it should able to be stealthy.
Hell yeah, the X-70B is my favorite from SWTOR. Long live the Sith Empire!
I'd throw in a few extras: from the Honorverse, the Mesan Alignment's Shark- and Leonard Detweiler-class battleships (plus the virtually unarmed Ghost-class scout frigates): equipped with a Spider drive that rendered them virtually undetectable to the gravimetric sensors that formed the primary detection methods of their contemporaries, albeit at a fraction of the possible acceleration, and equipped with low-signature stealthed weapons pods for long-range strikes, they are excellent silent killers. Unfortunately, the hull configuration, and mass/cubage required by the Spider meant they were unable to mount conventional drives as well, nor to project the "sidewall" shields other navies used for protection, meaning they were slow and vulnerable... if something spotted them.
From the Jenkinsverse, the Drunker On Turkeyer (no, seriously, that's what it's called): the personal flagship of Great Father Daar of the Gao, fitted with the very best in drives and capacitors for boisterous sub-light manoeuvring and frankly ridiculous FTL speeds, radar-absorbent stealth composite hull, a generous EWAR suite (they can't see you if you've blinded them), a shield designed to redirect virtually all of an attack's energy back at an attacker as a gamma-ray laser, or dump a ship's waste heat out through the same system in a directed stream away from enemies to reduce noticeable emissions. Add to that a large battery of railguns, missiles, lasers and potentially access to wormhole-delivered ordnance (via their alliance with Earth, although once the Dark Eye nanofact can be repurposed from the rebuilding of Gao, it's likely that capacity would be used to build up their own strategic weapons reserve), and it's one hell of a bruiser that'll likely only be seen if they want to be.
Hi Daniel
Today you make me lmao with "handy prefab coffin for 400 Federation officers" and "incendiary grenade".
About the 4th ship, the sith stealth ship, I would pick the The Tempest from Mass Effect Andromeda.
The Tempest isn't really a fully minted stealth ship. Its an explorer ship, that happens to have some stealth features, thus it not included in this list
@@weldonwin Yeah yeah. But I didn't mention the tempest because of that, but because is similar to the sith stealth ship, with it's yacht look.
One of my favorite videos from you in awhile
Good stuff, strangely interesting comfort food tech for sci fi people/ Scortt Burrell : Moon Called Triton
I wonder if Normandy-class ships have proper silent-running protocols. Something in the vein of deactivating all non-essential systems to minimise heat generation. Especially in the event of a passive drift that the Codex mentions, that can be maintained for days. Turn off the artificial gravity like ships are described as doing in combat, deactivate internal heaters since it's going to get warm in there soon enough regardless, turn down the lighting...
Hmmm..the Star Wars ship looks like an incarnation of the SR-71 Blackbird .
7:05 The SR-1 or SR-2 they may look identical but there is a fair amount of difference especially if ME-2 upgrades are took into account
Spacedock: designs the Amun-Ra class
Also Spacedock: "really awesome design"
I would have been very disappointed if the Normandy wasn't on this list. Glad to see that I wasn't. Great vid
Amun-Ra, Normandy and X-70B are the MVPs among the stealth ships and they are beauties as well as dangerous if you cross them.
What about Wonder Woman’s Invisible jet- it can go into outer space and it Has a toilet!!
Number 4 is my favorite even though I haven't played the games it's in and it's why Legends is awesome.
Hey Spacedock. If you're interested, there's an anime that's all about space combat called: "Starship Operators". It's about more realistic space combat. There's even an episode where the heroes face off against a stealth ship. I highly recommend it.
Have you finished Tiamats wrath yet? And when you do can you do a breakdown of the Magnator dreadnought “the Tempest” or maybe the “eye of the storm” destroyer????
My Theory for the B'Rel is that the Klingon Engineers left a lot of room for future upgrades and that they made the spaceframe so durable and versatile that the empire has never seen a reason to get rid of them. besides the Klingons really love their plucky little starships capable of bringing their enemies to their knees.
That SW ship is gorgeous, if you look at the nose you can recognise the sr-71 spyplane, especially the black patch where the cockpit would have been. Sadly no toilet lol
Aside from no toilets, the phantom apparently doesn't have real engines, just lights stuck onto the back of the hull.
or if it does actually have engines, they are entirely inaccessible for maintenance and the empire just buys a new ship every time they start having engine trouble
which sounds like a very empire thing to do
I don’t think Daniel describing things as being very cool will ever be lost on me:) but hey I’m here watching and commenting so that irony isn’t lost either:)
Looking at the interior of the phantom, I think it actually has a toilet. If you look next to the crew quarters, you can see locked door, just about the size of a toilet. Sure, there could be just about anything behind the door (minimap, or the picture of the interior layout don't display this room), but given their location, probable size of the room and the absence of a toilet anywhere else on the ship, I'd say it is safe to assume there is a toilet.
The Romulan Bird of Prey from the Star Trek original series episode Balance of Terror is the OG stealth ship and the defacto #1 stealth ship.
Though I may just think that because I'm old. 😊
The Expanse has spoilt me though. It makes all other sci-fi TV harder to watch.
If I had my choice of these...definitely the Phantom.
The Miranda may have been relegated to a support ship, but the Excelsior remained effective enough to match the Defiant, despite being nearly as old as the Miranda.
The magic of refits and new technology.
Stealth X, X -wing from Star Wars and ONI Prowler.
1:00 I differ in opinion re: the Klingon B'rel Bird of Prey vs the Romulan T'Varo Warbird (the updated version of the T'Liss) & after all, at least in StarTrek canon, few if any out-do the Romulans when it comes to stealth & cloaking. After all, the Klingons got it from the Romulans, & both ships were seen in ST canon series to be able to fire projectiles while cloaked. Altho at least in the StarTrekOnline game, they're both relatively small, fast, maneuverable, sneaky & pack a punch, the B'rel tops the T'Varo in speed & agility while the T'Varo tops the B'rel in stealth & sheer firepower. My characters there have both ships so I speak from experience in STO. Anyway, great video from a lifetime SciFi fan dating from the days of the 1st manned flights into space.
My number one favorite stealth ship is Darth Maul's personal custom freighter: The Scimitar. I love it's sleek design and color schematics, the green engins and dark hull create a beautifull yet sinister aesthetic. And it's armament of 6 laser canons is nice too.
Though the X-7OB Phantom is gorgeous too.
The Klingon Bird Of Prey is by far the best known of these 5 and on that alone should be #1.