It was underrated because Disney CEO wanted to kill and close "old way" animating studio so they released it in worst possible moment and lets say politely not spend much on marketing, it was perfect murder. Fun fact they had to reanimated all drawing depo for princess and a frog and lost lots of $$ doing so from scratch xD karma is a bitch... you need to fact check it, its what i heard while doing my animation project back on my college days.
When I saw Crescentia my heart leaped! I love treasure planet and that shot of zooming into the moon is downright beautiful! I wish they did more with that series because it had some amazing animation and so much it could do with it.
Unfortunately you can blame the Disney execs of the time they only grudgingly made the movie and then did everything they could to make it fail. I loved this movie and I heard that a second movie was planned by the directors but it will probably never be.🤬
Hey now I love High Charity but with what we’ve seen from it in comparison to other much smaller stations, well I can see why it’s over looked by so many. Don’t get me wrong it’s a very beautiful place before ‘you know what’ happened. With the Forerunner dreadnought almost always being visible when ever your on the covenant equivalent of sidewalks, it really does strike you as a holy place.
I think, technically, High Charity is a ship rather than a space station. Yes, a lot of the space station can move itself but only at subluminal speed, wherein High Charity can jump pretty much anywhere.
Anh Triệu while that is a valid point, in-universe High Charity is actually pretty slow-moving in Slipspace (by Covenant standards) due to being so large and Reconciliation issues. The Forerunner novels go into bigger detail on this regarding the entire idea of spacetime "debt" when you're moving around Halos and Shield Worlds. So the Holy City can't actually move around wherever it wants, and is a lot slower than smaller civilian and military craft (though given the fact High Charity is the capital, everything comes to *it,* so this doesn't matter too much.)
You don't even get to see all of The Citadel. After exploring all you can in the first game, you get to see different parts of it in the second and third games
True true. That part in mass effect is pretty cool. That being said, you also don't see a vast majority of the ark in halo 3 or halo wars 2. The books, especially Hunters in the Dark, go into quite a bit more detail about its ecosystem.
I absolutely love the Citadel, but with the small sections you get to explore, you don't _really_ get a sense of scale. You're locked inside, only walking a few floors in each game. Of course, I know that they couldn't possibly make the entire wards, but I still would have loved it! Y'know, actually wander the streets, take in the sights, looking up at the awesome buildings, flying cards everywhere. I really wish there was more of that. Maybe someday...
For anyone doubting if they'll like 'Treasure Planet' without any nostalgia goggles, I watched it for the first time at 20 years old and it was a simply amazing disney movie!
@@markfoshee4768 I agree with him. It's a really good movie. Especially since like most older Disney films it has a few darker scenes appropriate to even an adult film.
DS9, also cause they seemed to slap on every Federation torpedo launcher in the quadrant on to that space station. I swear in that one episode DS9 fired more torpedoes than every single episode of Trek prior combined.
One thing I loved about B5 you should have mentioned is that when it went into battle it had these retractable blast shields that would cover the windows of the command center of B5. Watch any of the episodes where B5 is going into battle and you will see the blast shields come up.
I have a soft spot for Fleet Battlestation Ticonderoga from the Starship Troopers film, even though it barely gets any screentime and its interiors are similar to the Roger Young.
John Cole now, imagine if the station had a massive FTL, so it became a massive mobile fortress, bringing entire fleets with it when it moves across the galaxy.
I agree that Babylon Five should have placed higher on list, especially when you consider that Paramount, Rick Berman, and Brannon Braga literally stole the idea from J Michael Stracynski after he pitched Babylon Five to Paramount to see if they would produce the show. There was a lawsuit, IIRC it was settled out of court.
@@Anlushac11 The guy who copied B5 wasn't Rick Berman or Michael Piller, it was some network executive who moved to Paramount from NBC at least that is the rumor. JMS also pitched the show to NBC. According to JMS it is unlikely Berman or Piller were even aware of B5 pitch, too low in corporate hierarchy. Braga wasn't even close to being that high in food chain at Paramount, he started with Star Trek as intern 1990.
@@762rk95tp I will concede your point that Piller, Berman and Braga didnt know. There is a statement from a former Paramount employee who said Paramount sat on B5 info for months and cherry picked what they wanted. In the end neither side wanted to pursue a costly and protracted legal battle so things were settled in a amicable way. Later Majel Barret appeared on B5 and Bill Mumy appeared on DS9. I seem to remember Majel Barret Roddenberry saying she appeared on B5 as a way to try and bring peace between the two fan bases.
I absolutely love Babylon 5, both as a space station and as a beloved science fiction series. I watch the show every year, almost as if I'm taking a pilgrimage there. It's one of the best written, well-executed television shows I've ever seen and the last episode rips my heart out and makes me cry every time.
5 also rans, I'd put Elysium, just for the hard science of its design, sort of a mini Ringworld in concept. And Alpha station from Valerian and the city of a thousand planets, for its epic scale and amazing environments and complexity inside. Earth Space Dock from Star Trek 3: the search for Spock, so good CBS just kept using it. And of course a certain space station that looks like a small moon … that's no Moon ! Finally Station V from 2001 a Space Odyssey, the first visually impressive space station scene in history. Consider it was made literally 50 years ago and it still resonates culturally. Watch it again and be amazed, and also consider how it influenced all those that followed.
@@johnshadwick2287 he does, but is he correct. I would say not, tbh thats the first time he's seen it.I would suggest he doesn't know its got a huge laser cannon built into it.
@@martinjrgensen8234 When they released Babylon 5 The Lost Tales it proved how much it would benifit and how beautiful it would look with new CGI. Damn it was a good show.
Sadly it will probably never happen. According to B5 creator JMS, Warner Brothers owns the rights to B5 and will not allow it to be remastered. It seems like WB just buried the show and tried to forget about it. I was surprised that it was released to be shown on Amazon Prime video.
I'm surprised that you didn't include the space station from 2001. Though on a sadder note the actor who voiced HAL 9000 passed away recently. It was 1-2 days after the passing of Stan Lee.
These are indeed excellent picks but I think Star Trek Beyond: Yorktown should be a strong contender, when I first saw it on the big screen it was breathtaking.
I just wish they'd have featured the Klingon Chef more on DS9, as it would flesh out an established culture more like they did the Ferengi and Cardassians :)
Rotating docking bays, and ports, save so much time and fuel. Having to worry about every vector AND your orientation is difficult, so being able to rely on the docking port to rotate your ship is very convenient.
the fun part with B5's docking beside the trouble of matching rotation though, is once the ship is landed on the platform inside, it gets lowered down into the gravity well and tracked to a parking position
My List... 5. Deep Space Nine: I like the concept, but the coloring and dark shadows covering some details makes it less likable to me. 4. Halo Super MAC platforms; playing in Cairo Station during Halo 2 is an experience I’ll never forget, and I love the vivid design, or more or less a giant Gun in space. 3. Babylon 5: A well-crafted and excellent design from an incredible series. Unfortunately, the lack of a good model has brought it down for me, but it’s still an awesome design. 2. The Citadel: I love this design, but it could easily drop to Number 3. It is iconic, but I think that there is one better design, obviously. 1. Iserlohn Fortress: You’re probably wondering what this is at glance. It’s from an older anime called Legend of the Galactic Heroes, and in my opinion the simplistic but intimidating design has stuck with me since I watched the show. It helps that it came from (in my opinion) the best sci-fi fiction piece I’ve ever seen. And, I mean, I can’t complain about the Thor Hammer. A fleet killing laser gun that appears from underneath liquid metal? Count me in!
Honestly while I appriciate the work and dedication of the spacedock videos I normally just come here to look at cool pics of sci fi ships for inspiration in sandbox games.
What about my personal favourite, Space Station V from 2001? It is awesome looking and firmly based on science fact. And the way it was introduced in the film was amazing too.
That thing influenced science fiction artist for a generation. I'm also partial to the polygonal starports of the Elite games, now named as the Coriolis type.
I think it's the first true cartoon originated media 'Cartoon movie' (Unless you count Cowboy bebop as one as well but that might cause a fire storm by anime fans if I call it a "Cartoon" even though anime=animated/animation in japan.] that Space dock has covered. Most are either live action shows (Expanse, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Star Wars movies, etc...) or video games (Mass effect, Halo, Wing Commander, and others.) It's a welcomed surprise.
Fun fact. Originally Deep Space 9 was supposed to be an ancient space station that had been built by an unknown race, and over the centuries, alien races who had taken up residence on it had expanded the station by constructing further attachments and structures based on their own architectural style that would clash with what was added before and after.So finally when Starfleet took control, it was a cultural eye-sore of mismatched structural sections and architecture.
To bad we don't see to much of it's interior in startrek online, but am glad they did add hyperdrives to it so it could show up for defence purposes. :)
@@Eucep With the recent remodel, it's actually MORE than is shown on the show, and it does stand up pretty well. Also the fact that you sad they added "hyperdrives" to DS9 appalls me.
One of the things I like about your channel is that you give Babylon 5 the respect it deserves. Very underrated show, and in my opinion, ahead of its time.
Didn't expect Treasure Planet to get mentioned. I'm glad it was thought because I think that's an underrated film that not enough people appreciate or even know about.
One of the best parts about seeing the spaceport in Treasure Planet is the musical piece that goes with it. I can't ever hear the music and NOT visualize the scene in my head!
Oh, the Montressor Spaceport! I adore that movie, it was one of the first animated sci-fi films I have seen. I have always wanted a solar surf as a kid and this was one of the main sources of fascination for portable personal means of transport (hoverboards, skates, Tribes series' skis, etc.). Part of the reason why I now use a Micro scooter to get around the city :D
Just a Little thing about good ol' Nauvoo: Tychos Docking drones were still attached, and stay attached, when it became Behemoth, probably literally to allow for any manouverabillity at all
No they salvaged the Nauvoo/Behemoth. The drones were launched by the salvage fleet. They attached to the Behemoth and flip it. They did not stay attached after it was launched from Tycho. If that is what you mean.
Fantastic list. As I am currently watching DS9 for the first time I appreciate the lack of spoilers. Also thank you for including Crescentia. Love Treasure Planet so much!!
I know it's tiny and was only around for a few episodes but my favorite is probably midway station from SG Atlantis. It was such a cool and unique setting and every episode it was included in was fantastic.
I did the math for their main guns a while ago. If something’s shields manage to stop the slug, the heat produced would likely weld the hull shut and fry everyone inside.
You were trying to figure out what to make your next video on. I took a couple surveys on it lately and you pick the perfect topic! I didnt see this option on the surveys.
The Citadel is huge, you don't even get to see it all. After seeing all you can in the original game, you get to see different parts of it in Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 3 shows you more different parts
The station actually measures 13km in diameter and 45 kilometers in length. The Presidium Ring is 7km and the Ward arms are 43km each. And the Citadel Tower extends 3.5km then ratates 90 degrees and extends forward another 1km. So yeah. It's a massive station
I would add Earth Spacedock from Star Trek. The big mushroom/mace shaped one. It really gives an impressive sense of scale and the level of technology that went into building it. Also Treasure Planet is awesome. Very under rated.
As much as I loved the show B5, that moment of awe the first time I played ME1 and saw the Citadel is a cherished gaming memory among many others from that series.
0:43 So guys we did it, we built a space station with a quarter of a million people on it. Two hundred and fifty thousand people, and still growing. *I hate my life*
Good list... Your point about DS9 going from hostile to home is spot on. The aesthetic, right from the opening sequence, also says "this isn't TNG" ;) Just watched an old ep where there's an incident with a Romulan WarBird... Sisko say's something like "...we've got 50 photon torpedoes targeting it..." and the Romulans respond with "I think it is time for us to leave." Yeah, station is much bigger than a ship. Oh, and my wife noticed something I missed... The day is 26 hours long, and writers did a great job consistently just sprinkling that in. The characters often refer to time periods like 26, 42, or 78 hours. A little thing, but shows some real thought and care.
My favorite space station is the Titan Station from Dead Space 2. You have multiple vertical levels with shopping districts and homes. School districts and churches close to them. Small military outpost scattered around with the large central hub near the core of Titans land mass with is also a major mining and industrial zone. Just seems very 'alive' with all that is there. Businesses, shops, ship repair yard, mining complex, church, schools, railways to travel through it, and a centralized police force. Plus I personally love the anesthetic of large natural land mass with industrial colonies building out of them. Wish we could just casually walk around it and see people interact with it, but space zombies gotta make a living too.
Phalanx of the Imperial Fists Legion Raptorus Rex of the Fire Hawks Chapter Kronos Star Fort of the White Consuls Chapter Broadsword Station of the Grey Knights Chapter Midway Station from Star Gate: Atlantis Hell's Iris of the Red Corsairs Chaos Marines Warband
One that's worth mentioning is from the anime adaptation of Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Iserlohn Fortress has a unique liquid surface which makes it easy to repel attacks and shift defensive turrets from one area of the station to another.
I've always loved the design of Earth Spacedock from Star Treks 3 and 4. Once they started just reusing it for every starbase in TNG it lost a lot of its charm, but in those original appearances it was just iconic and staggering in its scale. It's something that Yorktown in the last JJ film entirely failed to capture.
The Citadel is number one as it should be and I also watched Treasure Planet as a kid(verging onto a teenager at the time) as well and that sight seeing the crescent moon turning into a city was a sight of wonder especially to my child's eyes back then and I never forgot it either.
you have a nice list Daniel, based upon the series and games you are familiar with - good job however as someone with a bit different if not slightly wider knowledge of sci-fi (including south korean and japanese) I wanted to be nice about it and merely put my own top 5 space stations list: (do notice that not all of these stations are south korean or japanese designs) 5: Citadel Station [System Shock] 4: PLANT [Gundam Seed] 3: Kukai Foundatation [Xenosaga] 2: Londo Bell [Gundam] 1: Dark Star [Lost Universe] I would very much appreciate if you would at least check these five stations and maybe if you have the time even post something about them. even a reply here would do thank you (others are of course welcome to comment on this if they so choose)
Well I don't know how but here's some love for including Treasure Planet, I couldn't agree more on your point about Treasure Planet being a great introduction to Sci Fi in general, easily one of my favourite films
Man, I wish more of the space colonies from Gundam got some mainstream recognition. But I guess between the giant robot, and the fact they they are sort of utilitarian and realistic makes them less appealing. I personally never liked the citadel from ME, it makes so little sense to me, it's basically pure fantasy on the level of the crescent moon station from TP. I'd love to see something like Axis asteroid, or Aboa Qu from the UC timeline Gundam series covered a bit. The asteroid colonies always tend to stand out from the standard Oneal cylinders, often much more cobbled together.
@@BeyondDaX Not really, no. The only similarity to an Island 3 colony is that it uses rotational gravity. By that logic stanford toruses, bernal spheres and ring worlds are all the exact same thing. The citadel is structurally bullshit to start with, those huge arms aren't held in by anything other than plot device. As it stands, the mirrors for an open-type O'neill cylinder are beyond even optimistic future material strengths at a full 1G equivalent rotation, and those have cable supports. Second, for whatever reason, it's entirely open to space, but air shields, I guess, right? It's much, much more similar to the crescent from TP than any of the real-world inspired designs in UC Gundam. But it exists in a world of bullshit technology, so you kind of expect that. I mean, Minosky physics is kinda bad in terms of real science, but "element zero" blows that out of the water in terms of silly any day. I also wonder how the arms being closed kept out the defence fleet too, since as far as I can tell, the back end is still open. I can't see anything that would cover that up and prevent them from going in the back door. But ME never had the best writing, and it only got worse as the series progressed.
Avrage Trinidadian I wanted to write almost, ALMOST the exact same thing! I could even survive B5 not being number 1, but being lower than DS9!? I suddenly feel like calling on Mr Morden's associates ...
@@triptrip8353 Even pretending that were true, how does that influence the fact that B5 is way better in every respect (as a story, as a location, by its appearance) than DS9?
@Spacedock: there actually was a computer game of Treasure Planet, Called Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon where you got to command a fleet of lightships. Captain Amelia's been promoted to Admiral, and Jim's a captain under her. was actually a quite in-depth game with four factions in it, each with their own strengths: The Imperial Navy (best big guns), Ironclads (durable as hell), Pirates (Largest Crew and Fastest ships for boarding actions), and so on. You can find it on Steam.
I think the Citadel is probably the largest station on this list. Calling it a city sized space station is honestly an understatement. The entire thing is 47 km long and 13 km in diameter and consists of the 7 km diameter Presidium ring, with the 4 km tall Citadel Tower extending from it. As well as the 5 Ward arms, each 45 km long. During an attack, the station can also close up to form a 50 km long impenetrable shell. It's home to 13 million inhabitants (not including the keepers).
Much love for Babylon 5. A show that was ahead of its time.. and budget. They did so well with what they had.
Treasure Planet? I see you’re a man of culture as well
Treasure Island is another one that doesn't the respect it deserves.
Truly a man of culture, also enjoyed the Baldies Gate reference as well
Treasure planet such a underrated movie
It was underrated because Disney CEO wanted to kill and close "old way" animating studio so they released it in worst possible moment and lets say politely not spend much on marketing, it was perfect murder. Fun fact they had to reanimated all drawing depo for princess and a frog and lost lots of $$ doing so from scratch xD karma is a bitch... you need to fact check it, its what i heard while doing my animation project back on my college days.
I really liked watching "Treasure Planet" with my family.
When I saw Crescentia my heart leaped! I love treasure planet and that shot of zooming into the moon is downright beautiful!
I wish they did more with that series because it had some amazing animation and so much it could do with it.
Even years later, that scene has left an imprint that is just awesome!
Unfortunately you can blame the Disney execs of the time they only grudgingly made the movie and then did everything they could to make it fail. I loved this movie and I heard that a second movie was planned by the directors but it will probably never be.🤬
I am Commander Shepard and this is my favorite shop on the Citadel
I'm commander Sherpard and this is my favourite channel on TH-cam
Hey everyone, this channel discriminates against the poor!
"I'm Daniel from Spacedock, and this is my favorite station in the multiverse"
I’m Colonal Shepard (I’m not english so dont kill if I got that rank wrong) and Atlantis is the best
(The station not the series)
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite station in this video.
I may be the only person on Earth who likes the giant mushroom that is High Charity.
Hey now I love High Charity but with what we’ve seen from it in comparison to other much smaller stations, well I can see why it’s over looked by so many. Don’t get me wrong it’s a very beautiful place before ‘you know what’ happened. With the Forerunner dreadnought almost always being visible when ever your on the covenant equivalent of sidewalks, it really does strike you as a holy place.
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'you know what'
*cue gurgling popcorn noises*
I think, technically, High Charity is a ship rather than a space station. Yes, a lot of the space station can move itself but only at subluminal speed, wherein High Charity can jump pretty much anywhere.
High Charity is a mobile Holy City, with a forerunner dreadnought attached. Loved the atmosphere while slaughtering Covies and flood alike
Anh Triệu while that is a valid point, in-universe High Charity is actually pretty slow-moving in Slipspace (by Covenant standards) due to being so large and Reconciliation issues.
The Forerunner novels go into bigger detail on this regarding the entire idea of spacetime "debt" when you're moving around Halos and Shield Worlds. So the Holy City can't actually move around wherever it wants, and is a lot slower than smaller civilian and military craft (though given the fact High Charity is the capital, everything comes to *it,* so this doesn't matter too much.)
Mass Effect Citadel is my favourite. I still remember how my jaw dropped and those chills I felt when I first saw that monster in the first game.
Also, you get to explore it by yourself
@@Predator42ID Especially when compared to the ark. Christ that thing is bigger than earth.
You don't even get to see all of The Citadel. After exploring all you can in the first game, you get to see different parts of it in the second and third games
True true. That part in mass effect is pretty cool. That being said, you also don't see a vast majority of the ark in halo 3 or halo wars 2. The books, especially Hunters in the Dark, go into quite a bit more detail about its ecosystem.
I absolutely love the Citadel, but with the small sections you get to explore, you don't _really_ get a sense of scale. You're locked inside, only walking a few floors in each game. Of course, I know that they couldn't possibly make the entire wards, but I still would have loved it! Y'know, actually wander the streets, take in the sights, looking up at the awesome buildings, flying cards everywhere. I really wish there was more of that. Maybe someday...
For anyone doubting if they'll like 'Treasure Planet' without any nostalgia goggles, I watched it for the first time at 20 years old and it was a simply amazing disney movie!
Glad to see you and Daniel say that most videos I see about treasure planet just keep talking about how big of a mistake it was
@@markfoshee4768 I agree with him. It's a really good movie. Especially since like most older Disney films it has a few darker scenes appropriate to even an adult film.
Damb shame Disney screwed it over with a bad release date, terrible promotion, and cancelled it's sequel...
DS9, also cause they seemed to slap on every Federation torpedo launcher in the quadrant on to that space station. I swear in that one episode DS9 fired more torpedoes than every single episode of Trek prior combined.
They probably did, depending on who they were fighting. Dominion, right?
@@Rez090 Klingons, actually, in "The Way of the Warrior". Although it dished out plenty of damage when the Dominion attacked, too.
@@TheSaoMagnifico the whole point of the Torpedo's was for the Dominion lol the Klingon's wanted to test them first
nothing can beat voyager's infinite torpedo storage though. XD
@@osmium7738 Actually consider they did build Delta flyer, after season 5 they seem to have over come the problem of manufacturing torpedos.
One thing I loved about B5 you should have mentioned is that when it went into battle it had these retractable blast shields that would cover the windows of the command center of B5. Watch any of the episodes where B5 is going into battle and you will see the blast shields come up.
I can't believe Treasure Planet got away with a "that's no moon!" moment
I have a soft spot for Fleet Battlestation Ticonderoga from the Starship Troopers film, even though it barely gets any screentime and its interiors are similar to the Roger Young.
John Cole now, imagine if the station had a massive FTL, so it became a massive mobile fortress, bringing entire fleets with it when it moves across the galaxy.
I have a not very soft spot for the pilot of Corvette Transport Rodger Young.
@@w0t3rdog Palpatine: behold my Death Star 😏
Treasure Planet and Atlantis were both truly wonderful, truly underrated movies. Crescentia was an amazing idea.
Seeing Treasure Planet here reminds me of Atlantis The Lost Empire as well. There's many cool ships in that movie.
Fifth place for Babylon 5 ? You did this on purpose! :)
I agree that Babylon Five should have placed higher on list, especially when you consider that Paramount, Rick Berman, and Brannon Braga literally stole the idea from J Michael Stracynski after he pitched Babylon Five to Paramount to see if they would produce the show. There was a lawsuit, IIRC it was settled out of court.
@@Anlushac11 The guy who copied B5 wasn't Rick Berman or Michael Piller, it was some network executive who moved to Paramount from NBC at least that is the rumor. JMS also pitched the show to NBC. According to JMS it is unlikely Berman or Piller were even aware of B5 pitch, too low in corporate hierarchy. Braga wasn't even close to being that high in food chain at Paramount, he started with Star Trek as intern 1990.
Yeah, it’s almost as if he specifically said that...
@@762rk95tp I will concede your point that Piller, Berman and Braga didnt know.
There is a statement from a former Paramount employee who said Paramount sat on B5 info for months and cherry picked what they wanted. In the end neither side wanted to pursue a costly and protracted legal battle so things were settled in a amicable way.
Later Majel Barret appeared on B5 and Bill Mumy appeared on DS9. I seem to remember Majel Barret Roddenberry saying she appeared on B5 as a way to try and bring peace between the two fan bases.
jup, if it was on 4 it will disapper from list and on 3rd yours device will explode :).
You forgot to mention Babylon 5’s cobra bays! Launching fighters with centrifugal force!
Hey Daniel... I would love for you to do some of the ships from Treasure Planet... Its a great movie and it needs more love from the fans ;3
I second this motion.
Great idea
Yaaaaaaas
Agreed
Battle at Procyon
I absolutely love Babylon 5, both as a space station and as a beloved science fiction series. I watch the show every year, almost as if I'm taking a pilgrimage there. It's one of the best written, well-executed television shows I've ever seen and the last episode rips my heart out and makes me cry every time.
5 also rans, I'd put Elysium, just for the hard science of its design, sort of a mini Ringworld in concept.
And Alpha station from Valerian and the city of a thousand planets, for its epic scale and amazing environments and complexity inside.
Earth Space Dock from Star Trek 3: the search for Spock, so good CBS just kept using it.
And of course a certain space station that looks like a small moon … that's no Moon !
Finally Station V from 2001 a Space Odyssey, the first visually impressive space station scene in history. Consider it was made literally 50 years ago and it still resonates culturally.
Watch it again and be amazed, and also consider how it influenced all those that followed.
I love the Coriolis stations from the Elite series. They are just amazing to look at. Especially if you are arriving in that tiny little Sidewinder.
#2 that’s no moon...
Yup. How was that left out?
Because its not used as a space station its a giant weapons platform.
@@hellboy2097 Obi Wan calls it a space station on screen
@@johnshadwick2287 he does, but is he correct. I would say not, tbh thats the first time he's seen it.I would suggest he doesn't know its got a huge laser cannon built into it.
It’s a space station
I would pay a lot of money for a B5 remaster with all new CGI.
TheChrevil Same. Its effects is the only thing holding it back. It was so ahead of its time, with the intricate story telling.
I'd back that on Kickstarter without hesitation
@@martinjrgensen8234 When they released Babylon 5 The Lost Tales it proved how much it would benifit and how beautiful it would look with new CGI. Damn it was a good show.
Well, they are converting DS9 to HD. If it could be done, maybe B5 could be too.
Sadly it will probably never happen. According to B5 creator JMS, Warner Brothers owns the rights to B5 and will not allow it to be remastered. It seems like WB just buried the show and tried to forget about it. I was surprised that it was released to be shown on Amazon Prime video.
I'm surprised that you didn't include the space station from 2001.
Though on a sadder note the actor who voiced HAL 9000 passed away recently. It was 1-2 days after the passing of Stan Lee.
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These are indeed excellent picks but I think Star Trek Beyond: Yorktown should be a strong contender, when I first saw it on the big screen it was breathtaking.
I agree
Hazard2005 and the mushroom like Federation Space station from Star Trek III TSFS is a favorite of mine too.
USS EXETER That would be Earth Spacedock.
I love when the Nauvo leaves Tycho. When the massive fusion torch engines melt the structural steel. That's just an AWESOME touch.
Love Babylon 5, both the series, and the station. It's the best developed visualization of a O'Neil colony in SF or by space advocacy.
I always thought DSN's docking pylons should have been pointing outward to accomodate large ships.
Well it was supposed to reflect Cardassian design sensibilities. The Cardassians weren't always the most practical of people. ;)
I just wish they'd have featured the Klingon Chef more on DS9, as it would flesh out an established culture more like they did the Ferengi and Cardassians :)
Rotating docking bays, and ports, save so much time and fuel. Having to worry about every vector AND your orientation is difficult, so being able to rely on the docking port to rotate your ship is very convenient.
the fun part with B5's docking beside the trouble of matching rotation though, is once the ship is landed on the platform inside, it gets lowered down into the gravity well and tracked to a parking position
My List...
5. Deep Space Nine: I like the concept, but the coloring and dark shadows covering some details makes it less likable to me.
4. Halo Super MAC platforms; playing in Cairo Station during Halo 2 is an experience I’ll never forget, and I love the vivid design, or more or less a giant Gun in space.
3. Babylon 5: A well-crafted and excellent design from an incredible series. Unfortunately, the lack of a good model has brought it down for me, but it’s still an awesome design.
2. The Citadel: I love this design, but it could easily drop to Number 3. It is iconic, but I think that there is one better design, obviously.
1. Iserlohn Fortress: You’re probably wondering what this is at glance. It’s from an older anime called Legend of the Galactic Heroes, and in my opinion the simplistic but intimidating design has stuck with me since I watched the show. It helps that it came from (in my opinion) the best sci-fi fiction piece I’ve ever seen. And, I mean, I can’t complain about the Thor Hammer. A fleet killing laser gun that appears from underneath liquid metal? Count me in!
YES ISERLOHN ITS SO GOOD.
Honestly while I appriciate the work and dedication of the spacedock videos I normally just come here to look at cool pics of sci fi ships for inspiration in sandbox games.
What about my personal favourite, Space Station V from 2001? It is awesome looking and firmly based on science fact. And the way it was introduced in the film was amazing too.
That thing influenced science fiction artist for a generation. I'm also partial to the polygonal starports of the Elite games, now named as the Coriolis type.
A big thumbs up for including Bab 5. It's often forgotten and yet is a seminal piece of quality sci-fi.
You surprise us Dan Tresure Planet i wasnt expecting that one XD i was predicting some Halo ro Star Wars there but im happy Cresentia made to the list
Amazing since the Treasure Planet PC Game actually can be compared to Battlefleet: Gothic Armada in playstyles.
I think it's the first true cartoon originated media 'Cartoon movie' (Unless you count Cowboy bebop as one as well but that might cause a fire storm by anime fans if I call it a "Cartoon" even though anime=animated/animation in japan.] that Space dock has covered. Most are either live action shows (Expanse, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Star Wars movies, etc...) or video games (Mass effect, Halo, Wing Commander, and others.) It's a welcomed surprise.
Actually nowadays anime is more of a style, than a cultural phenomenon. Though most anime is still made in Japan.
I was expecting The Halo Rings and/or the Death Star(s), but seeing Treasure Planet get some love was great.
I watched Treasure Planet over and over again, its one of the coolest Sci-fi Films i have ever Seen
Dude? No spacedock? The channel is called spacedock and you forgot about spacedock.
Perfect comment, thank you.
What I came here to say. I came here for Earth Spacedock dammit. There's no spacedock on this entire channel called SPACEDOCK!
Ah treasure plant that was one of my favorite movies to watch while growing up along with Titan A.D
@Jope Lamp Turn off by does have a space station in it
Fun fact. Originally Deep Space 9 was supposed to be an ancient space station that had been built by an unknown race, and over the centuries, alien races who had taken up residence on it had expanded the station by constructing further attachments and structures based on their own architectural style that would clash with what was added before and after.So finally when Starfleet took control, it was a cultural eye-sore of mismatched structural sections and architecture.
and it was basically a gulag.
That would've been cool
So like Alpha Station from Valerian? That sounds EXTREMELY cool!
To bad we don't see to much of it's interior in startrek online, but am glad they did add hyperdrives to it so it could show up for defence purposes. :)
@@Eucep With the recent remodel, it's actually MORE than is shown on the show, and it does stand up pretty well.
Also the fact that you sad they added "hyperdrives" to DS9 appalls me.
One of the things I like about your channel is that you give Babylon 5 the respect it deserves. Very underrated show, and in my opinion, ahead of its time.
Maybe a ship breakdown of the RLS Legacy from treasure planet next? It'd be nice to see a breakdown of something different
Didn't expect Treasure Planet to get mentioned. I'm glad it was thought because I think that's an underrated film that not enough people appreciate or even know about.
One of the best parts about seeing the spaceport in Treasure Planet is the musical piece that goes with it. I can't ever hear the music and NOT visualize the scene in my head!
Great list Daniel, loved it. Was very surprised and quite happy with the callout to Treasure Planet as I always loved that movie.
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@Spacedock Watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes, you'll be redoing this video as soon as Iserlhorn Fortress is introduced.
Had to scroll too far to find this comment. Isherlohn, the most imposing Imperial Galactic Empire fortress.
Oh, the Montressor Spaceport! I adore that movie, it was one of the first animated sci-fi films I have seen. I have always wanted a solar surf as a kid and this was one of the main sources of fascination for portable personal means of transport (hoverboards, skates, Tribes series' skis, etc.). Part of the reason why I now use a Micro scooter to get around the city :D
Seeing Treasure Planet receiving some love really warms my heart :)
Just a Little thing about good ol' Nauvoo: Tychos Docking drones were still attached, and stay attached, when it became Behemoth, probably literally to allow for any manouverabillity at all
No they salvaged the Nauvoo/Behemoth. The drones were launched by the salvage fleet. They attached to the Behemoth and flip it. They did not stay attached after it was launched from Tycho.
If that is what you mean.
That is not what i meant. Bad Wording, i suppose.
Fantastic list. As I am currently watching DS9 for the first time I appreciate the lack of spoilers. Also thank you for including Crescentia. Love Treasure Planet so much!!
5:53- the last hope against the Kardashians.., I could only hope.
So glad that you reminded me of Crescentia and Treasure Planet. 8 year old me is grateful.
I really love Cairo station from halo two
I love this channel so much because even when talking about franchises I don't know much, it manages to stay completely engrossing.
Except for getting your 1 and 5 entries backwards this is a really good list.
I know it's tiny and was only around for a few episodes but my favorite is probably midway station from SG Atlantis. It was such a cool and unique setting and every episode it was included in was fantastic.
Love how you put the station from treasure planet in here thought no one else likes that movie
I thoroughly enjoy listening to you geek out over sci-fi stuff.
Spacedock from Star Trek ironically absent in Spacedock's list of the best space docks... ;)
My heart will always lie with the ODPs from Halo
I did the math for their main guns a while ago. If something’s shields manage to stop the slug, the heat produced would likely weld the hull shut and fry everyone inside.
Cough* Installation 4 Cough*
A massive station that holds multiple biomes and a dark secret. It is both a universal archive and a doomsday device.
You were trying to figure out what to make your next video on. I took a couple surveys on it lately and you pick the perfect topic! I didnt see this option on the surveys.
The Citadel is huge, you don't even get to see it all. After seeing all you can in the original game, you get to see different parts of it in Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 3 shows you more different parts
The station actually measures 13km in diameter and 45 kilometers in length. The Presidium Ring is 7km and the Ward arms are 43km each. And the Citadel Tower extends 3.5km then ratates 90 degrees and extends forward another 1km. So yeah. It's a massive station
Treasure planet is such a cool movie, and the genre they created is one i wanna see explored more.
I would add Earth Spacedock from Star Trek. The big mushroom/mace shaped one. It really gives an impressive sense of scale and the level of technology that went into building it. Also Treasure Planet is awesome. Very under rated.
Thank you for the tribute to B5, my favorite all time sci-fi series .
Is it sad that I recognise B5 instantly from its silhouette in the thumbnail?
no
yeah it is. need a tissue?
It is not.
Not at all.
It was the only reason I clicked the thumbnail. Too bad some of the other entries on the list were so weak.
Well you will just have to wait for "Babylon 6." Mankind's last best hope for war :D
As much as I loved the show B5, that moment of awe the first time I played ME1 and saw the Citadel is a cherished gaming memory among many others from that series.
DS9 was probably my favorite star trek series, glad it made it in this list.
So glad someone besides me loves Treasure Planet
0:43 So guys we did it, we built a space station with a quarter of a million people on it. Two hundred and fifty thousand people, and still growing.
*I hate my life*
Good list...
Your point about DS9 going from hostile to home is spot on. The aesthetic, right from the opening sequence, also says "this isn't TNG" ;)
Just watched an old ep where there's an incident with a Romulan WarBird... Sisko say's something like "...we've got 50 photon torpedoes targeting it..." and the Romulans respond with "I think it is time for us to leave." Yeah, station is much bigger than a ship.
Oh, and my wife noticed something I missed... The day is 26 hours long, and writers did a great job consistently just sprinkling that in. The characters often refer to time periods like 26, 42, or 78 hours. A little thing, but shows some real thought and care.
Like! But what about 2001?
7:05 I legit started hearing the music in that scene in my head from watching that
No Phalanx? The inquisition will hear of this heretic! But also great list. Treasure Planet was the real treasure all along.
I want to say thank you for showing the Citadel and DS9
would have put Babylon 5 on top.. but then being my favorite Sci-Fi show EVER i guess im kind of biased
My favorite space station is the Titan Station from Dead Space 2. You have multiple vertical levels with shopping districts and homes. School districts and churches close to them. Small military outpost scattered around with the large central hub near the core of Titans land mass with is also a major mining and industrial zone. Just seems very 'alive' with all that is there. Businesses, shops, ship repair yard, mining complex, church, schools, railways to travel through it, and a centralized police force. Plus I personally love the anesthetic of large natural land mass with industrial colonies building out of them.
Wish we could just casually walk around it and see people interact with it, but space zombies gotta make a living too.
I wouldn't mind living on a station like DS9 or the Citadel.
i agree with you about babylon 5. it is one of the best stations out there. i do love it.
Phalanx of the Imperial Fists Legion
Raptorus Rex of the Fire Hawks Chapter
Kronos Star Fort of the White Consuls Chapter
Broadsword Station of the Grey Knights Chapter
Midway Station from Star Gate: Atlantis
Hell's Iris of the Red Corsairs Chaos Marines Warband
Eh, they are kinda meh as far as space stations go
Phalanx is the only one worthy of note.
Daimon X Instead of midway I would consider Atlantis itself a decently large space station (even though most of the time its grounded)
I really love the Solyaris Space Station from the 1972 Tarkofsky movie Solyaris. It's built primarily as a research station with Spartan living cells.
What about the Phalanx from warhammer 40k?
That thing is more like a giant space ship.
Thanks for the recommendation of Treasure Planet. I finally watched it and it was superb!
Star Wars?
-Death Star 1
-Death Star 2
-Center Point Station
-Sinkhole Station
-The Tarkin
-Goland Platforms
Did not expect Treasure Planet, and it makes me happy to see it here.
Hey Daniel, is Treasure Planet your first Disney movie?
One that's worth mentioning is from the anime adaptation of Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Iserlohn Fortress has a unique liquid surface which makes it easy to repel attacks and shift defensive turrets from one area of the station to another.
Since when did Spacedock care about anime?
And Iserlhorn gets into a fight with a *spoiler*. Just for that battle of the titans it deserves a spot on the list.
I've always loved the design of Earth Spacedock from Star Treks 3 and 4. Once they started just reusing it for every starbase in TNG it lost a lot of its charm, but in those original appearances it was just iconic and staggering in its scale. It's something that Yorktown in the last JJ film entirely failed to capture.
Agreed, the megashroom ESD is such an iconic design.
Top 5 has so little space for space stations or spacedocks. It should have been included as honorable mention.
Agreed. It's my favorite one. When I take over the world I plan to build one at Lagrange point L1
The Citadel is number one as it should be and I also watched Treasure Planet as a kid(verging onto a teenager at the time) as well and that sight seeing the crescent moon turning into a city was a sight of wonder especially to my child's eyes back then and I never forgot it either.
you have a nice list Daniel, based upon the series and games you are familiar with - good job
however as someone with a bit different if not slightly wider knowledge of sci-fi (including south korean and japanese) I wanted to be nice about it and merely put my own top 5 space stations list:
(do notice that not all of these stations are south korean or japanese designs)
5: Citadel Station [System Shock]
4: PLANT [Gundam Seed]
3: Kukai Foundatation [Xenosaga]
2: Londo Bell [Gundam]
1: Dark Star [Lost Universe]
I would very much appreciate if you would at least check these five stations and maybe if you have the time even post something about them.
even a reply here would do
thank you
(others are of course welcome to comment on this if they so choose)
Well I don't know how but here's some love for including Treasure Planet, I couldn't agree more on your point about Treasure Planet being a great introduction to Sci Fi in general, easily one of my favourite films
6:40-8:29 *THIS*
Terrific channel. Please keep it coming.
Man, I wish more of the space colonies from Gundam got some mainstream recognition. But I guess between the giant robot, and the fact they they are sort of utilitarian and realistic makes them less appealing.
I personally never liked the citadel from ME, it makes so little sense to me, it's basically pure fantasy on the level of the crescent moon station from TP. I'd love to see something like Axis asteroid, or Aboa Qu from the UC timeline Gundam series covered a bit. The asteroid colonies always tend to stand out from the standard Oneal cylinders, often much more cobbled together.
The Citadel are basically a modified 'bloom' version of the colonies from the UC timeline
@@BeyondDaX
Not really, no. The only similarity to an Island 3 colony is that it uses rotational gravity. By that logic stanford toruses, bernal spheres and ring worlds are all the exact same thing. The citadel is structurally bullshit to start with, those huge arms aren't held in by anything other than plot device. As it stands, the mirrors for an open-type O'neill cylinder are beyond even optimistic future material strengths at a full 1G equivalent rotation, and those have cable supports.
Second, for whatever reason, it's entirely open to space, but air shields, I guess, right? It's much, much more similar to the crescent from TP than any of the real-world inspired designs in UC Gundam. But it exists in a world of bullshit technology, so you kind of expect that. I mean, Minosky physics is kinda bad in terms of real science, but "element zero" blows that out of the water in terms of silly any day.
I also wonder how the arms being closed kept out the defence fleet too, since as far as I can tell, the back end is still open. I can't see anything that would cover that up and prevent them from going in the back door. But ME never had the best writing, and it only got worse as the series progressed.
The Citadel scene in me1 always gives me goosebumps. It is just perfect, its visuals are great as well as the soundtrack
if babylon 5 isnt no. 1, I riot...
(Babylon 5 is in fifth place)
I riot
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I wanted to write almost, ALMOST the exact same thing!
I could even survive B5 not being number 1, but being lower than DS9!?
I suddenly feel like calling on Mr Morden's associates ...
@@MaiAolei What do you want?
@@MaiAolei Mr Mordens Associates would get bitch smacked by the Jem Hadar
@@triptrip8353 Even pretending that were true, how does that influence the fact that B5 is way better in every respect (as a story, as a location, by its appearance) than DS9?
Treasure Planet... strongly reminds me of the 2nd Edition AD&D setting of Spelljammer.
You should take a look at some of the ships from Mobile Suit Gundam.
Reverk Gelvan I second that motion
@Spacedock: there actually was a computer game of Treasure Planet, Called Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon where you got to command a fleet of lightships. Captain Amelia's been promoted to Admiral, and Jim's a captain under her.
was actually a quite in-depth game with four factions in it, each with their own strengths: The Imperial Navy (best big guns), Ironclads (durable as hell), Pirates (Largest Crew and Fastest ships for boarding actions), and so on.
You can find it on Steam.
No Death Star or Space Station V?
The death star is not a station
MeerkatProductions Obi-Wan says otherwise
I think the Citadel is probably the largest station on this list. Calling it a city sized space station is honestly an understatement. The entire thing is 47 km long and 13 km in diameter and consists of the 7 km diameter Presidium ring, with the 4 km tall Citadel Tower extending from it. As well as the 5 Ward arms, each 45 km long. During an attack, the station can also close up to form a 50 km long impenetrable shell. It's home to 13 million inhabitants (not including the keepers).