Yeah but Dooku solar sailer on a design pount of view looks like it belong to start wars and was design as a soace ships. Sailboat ships on the other hand are just sea vessels in space.
@@florians9949 Reminds me of that scene in the Famiy Guy parody where the Rebel Squadron was preparing for their attack on the Death Star when the Red October shows up XD.
A subtle one I like is that the Predator-class starfighter (the successor to the TIE) takes on the aesthetic of a bat, including folding its wings up and dangling from hangar ceilings.
The wasp/hornet ships are definitely a product of the 90's. Those of us old enough to remember the 90's probably saw about 9 billion shows that included bug/animal mechs/ships/transformers.
Yep I am sure that monstrosity entered the Expanded Universe around the same time as Beast Wars, Men In Black and the 1997 Starship Troopers movie adaptation. And Vectorman 2 which probably nobody remembers but was a huge part of my own childhood, lol. People in the 90s seemed to love giant alien bugs for a brief period.
The name of this ship was my very first email account password. Back when Star Wars Galaxies wasn't out yet, I fantasised about piloting a Hornet Interceptor, due to the seemingly perfect balance between speed, agility and firepower it had. Plus it still looks cool in my eyes.
I think that in the case of the trident class, looking like an animal is even a boon to its design, since anybody not trained from birth would be sh*tting themselves if a giant squid jumped out of the water and attacked your home.
Talking a ship i really like, the mantis from falling order has a really cool cockpit. There's something about the glass floor under the command console that looks so cool but is also functional for better visibility under the ship.
As someone who really likes the aesthetic of sailing ships in space thanks to the movie Treasure Planet, I freakin love that Fairwin ship at the end! Yeah, it doesn't fit at all with the aesthetic of Star Wars. But it still looks cool as hell!
For the Fairwind, I like to imagine that she's an adapted yacht, rather than a dedicated warship designed from the ground up to look like a primitive world's wooden galleon. The Seventh Battle of Ruusan does take place at a time when turning plowshares into swords may be necessary, and Farfalla is flamboyant enough to choose the fanciest plowshare he can find for his sword-ship.
My thoughts would instead be that the war's gone on long enough and been bad enough that they're scrapping the barrel for ships or ship designers. Primitive sail ship? We need more ships so, screw it, we'll find a way to adapt it for space travel. Alternately, you have a ship designer that's only designed sail ships, and now they're designing space ships on the only basis they have experience with, and the rest of the design team handles making it spaceworthy. Fun move would be that the sails serve a purpose - shield generator emitters, sensor platforms, etc.
SW making ships: "haha, funny bug" Me and the boys explaining our fanon ships in absurd detail: "the turbolaser tracking turret knows where it is because it knows where it isn't..."
There was one in the West End Games modules that was 100% organic and looked like a very gross log. The alien's that made them also looked like a cross between Cousin It and a Squid.
Thakwaash. Though at least one source apparently redesigned them to look a bit more alien. A smaller one, Hohass "Runt" Ekwesh served as a member of the Commando/X-Wing unit Wraith Squadron, featured in the X-Wing novels Wraith Squadron, Iron Fist, Solo Command, and Mercy Kill. They also have split-personalities by default, which can make them confusing and difficult to deal with for more conventional species.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Pretty sure he's referring the the Lexx, from the show _Lexx_. Basically a 10km slightly dragonfly-ish thing armed with only a planetkiller, captained by a moron.
My favorite thing about these videos is how they remind me of the old days of obsessively pouring over the original Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. I LOVED that book.
Eck, I task you with finding the name of the ship that the bardottan cultists have in the Jar Jar + Mace Clone wars arc. It reminds me of the Hornet class and I can't find anything about it anywhere.
I'm pretty sure the aping of the CEC design language on the gh'troc freighters is intentional even in-universe. They're for people who want a Millenium Falcon but can't afford a Millenium Falcon, or something like that.
The Vie-vex fighter is the main Star fighter of The Imperial Horde Diamond Authority and is the backbone of their naval fighters measuring at a length of 39.1ft (11.9m) and at a Wingspan 30.8ft (9.4m) and at the Height 21.2ft (6.5m) this fighter is medium size of it's design and it's engine unit is a single ion engine that gave it a thrust to movie it forward it's atmosphere speed is about 2,300 mph while it's MGLT speed is about 400 MGLT while it's firepower are a mix of L-s1 laser cannon and Blaster Cannons, Twin used on the Single Trooper Aerial Platform or STAP (which are from star wars) and there are six in total three on each wing. The design of the Vievex fighter was base off of the The HYDRA Parasit fighter plane used by Hydra and when Steven was stopping a hydra agent he found a flash-drive he put it in his jacket pocket and later he was capture by Lex Luther it fell out of his pocket and as Lex Luther found it and showed everyone of this fighter they like it and made a few changes like the body of the fighter instead of it being a suicide bomber it's bod reassembles a f16 fighter jet while the wings and cockpit were move slightly a bit like WW2 fighter planes and the cockpit joystick is now a two handed yoke and when Veon told them about this manufacturing plant called Syeconn Fleet System they took it to them and they made several of them. They lack shields and a life support system and a hyperdrive built into them yet it's speed gives it the edge and the Imperial Horde Diamond Authority use them in massive swarms to overwhelm their enemies. with this deadly Star-fighter will ensure the galactic dominance of the Imperial Horde Diamond Authority.
The most bizarre thing is that in the novel it was introduced in, the Hornet interceptor wasn't remotely described as *looking* like an actual hornet. It was described as being a highly streamlined, aerodynamic fighter with very thin wings. But when an official design was chosen for it, the "thin wings" part was the only thing retained from that description.
I love the Ghtroc 720. I also like turtles. Coincidence? Maybe. But mostly it's from acquiring and using one during an extended SWRPG campaign. It's tough, easy to find parts for, and there are lots of hiding places inside it. It is also distinctive. When everyone else in the party wants some CEC boondoggle, I have my space turtle which seems to be able to bypass checkpoints due to being nonthreatening.
Okay, I got a good one: The Hapan Battle Dragon. The ship is just so freaking *bad*, it not only looks like someone accidently glued the observation platforms of some tourist trap together, which comes with a whole host of visual and structural issues by itself, the weapons layout is also completely *asinine*. You see, unlike literally every other capital ship design philosophy , the Hapans thought that putting Ion Cannons and Turbolasers into fixed batteries was too boring, and instead put their guns on *conveyor belts* that run around the top and discs. The engineering implications I leave for you to figure out, and shudder once it settles in just what exactly that means. The reason? The weapons have a very slow rate of fire, so, rather than compensate for that like a reasonable person, like alternating dual-barrels or rotary guns, the Hapans put them on these stupid conveyors so that, while one gun recharges, a fresh one can move into place, meaning the ship has a blind spot the size of itself whenever it is shooting at something. What's more, the Hapans also figured they would use these ships in massed formations and gang up on single or small groups of targets, so they also skimped on the targeting computers, putting way too few for all their weapons on the ships to be useful, meaning that they are basically just throwing a random hail of gunfire at the enemy and hope for the best if a Battle Dragon is found alone. This is the kind of ship that makes me wonder just what in the everloving grace of God the Hapans were smoking during that design meeting, and why the one suggesting it wasn't immediately fired or put to the firing squad for that insanity.
Hey Eck idk if you'll read this but hearing Unfound's "Heaven" reminded me that you were the main dude who introduced me to Synthwave as a whole, like Unfound and Voyage, and Home, a few years ago. Thank you for that :)
With the Gh'troc freighters - in a RPG game I noted you could give them a modification that allowed turbolasers to be added to them and what if we added a twin-linked system to it, on the back either side of the cockpit,and called it Blastoise. Guess what we flew for the rest of the campaign 🤣
I would love more ships to be made from dead animal parts. Like maybe there is a creature that has body parts that are super impervious to lasers so they make better hull components then even the strongest metals.
Talking about really goofy designs, there is the AT-MT, a mountain assault transporter that looked like a giant spider, complete with an abdomen cargo pod.
Surprised to see no AT-MT spider walker on here? I actually really like the AT-MT, I think it looks pretty cool. And imagining it walking up the side of a mountain is also cool to visualize.
I kinda like the galleon in space idea, maybe because I grew up with the Bobobops. But something that I think might get Eckharts beef going, the interstellar trains of Galaxy Express 999.
@@Starsaber222 At least the X-Wings were clearly a more advanced design. The Xyston was literally "let's upscale the already rather impractical Imperial I and slap on a massive weak point in the form a a superlaser that is directly connected to the main reactor!"
If at all possible could you do a episode or such about ships that look kool or had kool features but in lore were a utter failure or a weaker design than its competitor manufacturing models?
Sail on ships can be useful, especially for long voyages where you don't wanna use energy. We actually have this on satellites and use the solar energy to "push" the object. But i'm not sure in star wars, where hyperspace exists, that these are really useful. It's probably more of a cosmetic and a "look a rich i am" trope.
Yeah, it's definitely best deployed in hard sci-fi settings. One of my stories involved laser pushed solar sails as a common alternative to fighting the Rocket Equation.
Spaceships made from gigantic hollowed out dead insects is pretty awesome as a concept, it just doesn't gel well with established SW A sci-fi setting where that was the norm would be pretty wild
So... bit of a theory (really more of a headcanon) regarding the Millennium Falcon and the whole "cargo pod" thing that rectifies it with other lore about the ship: The ability to act as a tugboat for intermodal cargo pods wasn't the primary role of the YT-1300, but rather a repurposing of the loading grapples of early-run YT-1300s that prompted CEC to make an intermodal docking system a standard option for the ship. The YT-1300 wasn't the first YT-series ship with an offset cockpit, that would be the YT-1200. But the YT-1200 has a single dorsal mandible containing a loading crane, which implies the side cockpit design was to facilitate front-end loading rather than any sort of attachable cargo pods. The YT-1300 replaced this crane with a magnetic loading grappler so that it could be used in microgravity, however this also effectively gave the ship a short-ranged tractor beam which some pilots started using to haul extra cargo in external containers. CEC did have an external cargo container option for the YT-1300, but it was designed to be attached on top of the ship and wasn't compatible with standard intermodal cargo systems. So eventually, after seeing how people were using the YT-1300's loading grapples (as well as having to deny warranty repair requests due to this unintended use of a ship feature), CEC decided to add a magnetic docking clamp for standardized intermodal racks to the YT-1300's mandibles, available as both an aftermarket upgrade and as a factory option. As for the unusually high flight performance and maneuverability for a freighter, CEC also prides themselves in making ships for starship enthusiasts. Most of their ships even up to the CR-90 Corvette have significantly better flight performance and maneuverability for ships of their size and role. This rectifies the existence of the intermodal docking system with other, incompatible or just "nonsensical" options and features of the YT-1300, such as the front loading hatch, center cockpit and armored hull options, dockable shuttle and snub fighter options and the various internal layout options that vary in space efficiency.
I just found out about the "Darksaber" superweapon, which was basically the Hutts took the Death Star's main gun assembly, wrapped it in durasteel hull that made it look like a lightsaber (with some engines at the back), and boom, instant stupid design. Yes it made it smaller and more easy to maneuver, but it looks like a giant lightsaber in space, and that's just silly.
Would love to see a version of this series, roasting Star Trek ship designs. Plenty of material from Starfleet on it's own, let alone all the alien factions.
I like how the video says the thumbnail is an Ithulian Ore Hauler when it's actually a Hornet Interceptor... Probably an even more egregious example of the trope hes describing.
Eckhart: "I don't like space ships to look like sailing ships in space" Everyone Who Watched Treasure Planet Even Once: **Merry Sea Shanty stops** "The farq did you just say?" >_O
It's lazy planning, these designers seem to think we'll accept anything they copy out of a nature magazine or seeing a design in split spaghetti sauce on the table. Star Trek at lease takes the time to come up with reasonable designs rather than throwing spaghetti at a wall and watch it sag and fall.
The best example of incoporate animal/insect feature into a vehicle is Ornithopter from Dune... From what I've heard, in novel it's resemble a bird and in Villeneuve's adaptation is more like a dragonfly...
I've loved the Ghtroc 720 since the early 90s, as it was the default starting ship for the "smuggler" character template of the D6 RPG, and it has more passenger and cargo space than the stock YT-1300. Perfect for transporting a party of PCs... ;-)
I think the AT-M6 is an example of an animal-like vehicle done well. The AT-AT looked intimidating af, so I can see why the designers nailed in on that towering, imposing shape, and just beefed it up further, while evoking the design of some unknown ape-like predator creature There's no downsides to the design, and it's good that the larger front legs and larger body to accommodate the mega-calliber 6 gun make sense and are practical
I hate cockpits that are not centered on faster ships. To me this make navigation significantly harder when you wnat to go anywhere that is not big empty space. Plus I find it goofy as you put it. Also for Savages ship, I dissagre with you. To me their is absolutly no reason for the engines to be put into such vulnerable spot other than give the ships legs. Seriously those thing slooks so fragile and house one of the most improtant component.
Impractical space-sails at least can be an opulence/wealth/indulgence thing. Consider that a space-only vessel doesn't need to worry about how aerodynamic it is, and also just say it's a radiator or something.
Enough animal ships! Back to geometry we go. My ship will have an inflato-hab up front, and a big long truss to mount the nuclear eng- ... Aaand, it's a tadpole. Dammit.
A planet with ship sized wasps should have been the Death Star’s first target
Yeah, that kind of public service might have made up for Alderaan.
Oui … up yours mate 🇦🇺
No kidding
No. They went for the planet with ship sized spiders first. Leia didn't object until they got to Alderaan...
Amen.
Justin: "I hate sailboat ships"
also Justin: "here's 8 reasons why Count Dooku's solar sailer is the coolest ship"
Yeah but Dooku solar sailer on a design pount of view looks like it belong to start wars and was design as a soace ships. Sailboat ships on the other hand are just sea vessels in space.
The Punworcca is a ship ship, it just has sails. Like the Hutt ships Eck showed off. It’s when the starship is a boat that things get silly.
@@florians9949 Reminds me of that scene in the Famiy Guy parody where the Rebel Squadron was preparing for their attack on the Death Star when the Red October shows up XD.
Well at least Dooku's Sailer doesn't look like a goddam pirate ship *In Space*
@@dekoldrick Red Fox standing by!
Red October standing by
A subtle one I like is that the Predator-class starfighter (the successor to the TIE) takes on the aesthetic of a bat, including folding its wings up and dangling from hangar ceilings.
i think ive found my new favorite starfighter....grazie!
The wasp/hornet ships are definitely a product of the 90's. Those of us old enough to remember the 90's probably saw about 9 billion shows that included bug/animal mechs/ships/transformers.
Yep I am sure that monstrosity entered the Expanded Universe around the same time as Beast Wars, Men In Black and the 1997 Starship Troopers movie adaptation. And Vectorman 2 which probably nobody remembers but was a huge part of my own childhood, lol. People in the 90s seemed to love giant alien bugs for a brief period.
Lexx... best ship.
Even Lego did it, and it was amazing!
Ithullan Ore Carriers.
The name of this ship was my very first email account password. Back when Star Wars Galaxies wasn't out yet, I fantasised about piloting a Hornet Interceptor, due to the seemingly perfect balance between speed, agility and firepower it had. Plus it still looks cool in my eyes.
Good another
Yes, we need another
ANOTHER!
Moar, MOAR!
I want more… yet I know I shouldn’t
I’ll be real the idea of hollowing a giant alien creature and making it a ship is metal as hell dude.
Just like the Combine Gunship from Half-life 2?
@@sonickuncklesomewhat like what manhattan black and his tesm had in Superman vs the elite tho i dont know if its actually hollowed out
I think that in the case of the trident class, looking like an animal is even a boon to its design, since anybody not trained from birth would be sh*tting themselves if a giant squid jumped out of the water and attacked your home.
Speaking of ships looking like animals, I want a flagship that's the shape of a monke.
Which Monkee would you want the ship to be shaped like?
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@@darwinskeeper421 Davey. Every time. You know he was the innocent looking one that goaded people into pulling pranks.
Close enough
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@@michaelandreipalon359 Well, that's just prime.
I'm reminded of the Shogun class Mecha from Star Fox. They look like gundams except monke.
Star Wars Fans: "Please stop bullying the ship designs!"
EckhartsLadder: "Never."
He shouldn’t have to stop tho.
We aren't saying that.
@@anzaca1 that’s what I figured.
I don't think the OP was meaning it litterally I think they were just trying to make a joke
@@GustavusAdolphus2 I certainly don’t mean to be serious.
I actually like the premise of that moth ship. Use what you have to make a ship to fulfill your needs
kinda like Native Americans in that sense- use EVERYTHING an animal has; don't discard what you can use
Talking a ship i really like, the mantis from falling order has a really cool cockpit. There's something about the glass floor under the command console that looks so cool but is also functional for better visibility under the ship.
Everytime i see the Jedi Pirate Ship my eyes breaks out in hives
Lord Rohlan Hoth should not be going to the Battle of Ruusan in a god damn caravel
@@michaelandreipalon359 Those ones are absolutely majestic.
The Ithulian is so bold in its sillyness, that you just gotta love it.
No! Nooooooooo!
At least the Hapan Battle Dragon doesn't look like a dragon. It does look like an amusement park ride, for better or worse.
With the rotating gun turrets it basically is a Tilt-a-whirl.
As someone who really likes the aesthetic of sailing ships in space thanks to the movie Treasure Planet, I freakin love that Fairwin ship at the end! Yeah, it doesn't fit at all with the aesthetic of Star Wars. But it still looks cool as hell!
For the Fairwind, I like to imagine that she's an adapted yacht, rather than a dedicated warship designed from the ground up to look like a primitive world's wooden galleon. The Seventh Battle of Ruusan does take place at a time when turning plowshares into swords may be necessary, and Farfalla is flamboyant enough to choose the fanciest plowshare he can find for his sword-ship.
It still makes zero sense, and was a dumb thing to put in.
My thoughts would instead be that the war's gone on long enough and been bad enough that they're scrapping the barrel for ships or ship designers. Primitive sail ship? We need more ships so, screw it, we'll find a way to adapt it for space travel. Alternately, you have a ship designer that's only designed sail ships, and now they're designing space ships on the only basis they have experience with, and the rest of the design team handles making it spaceworthy.
Fun move would be that the sails serve a purpose - shield generator emitters, sensor platforms, etc.
This has gotta be my favorite series on this channel
SW making ships: "haha, funny bug"
Me and the boys explaining our fanon ships in absurd detail: "the turbolaser tracking turret knows where it is because it knows where it isn't..."
There was one in the West End Games modules that was 100% organic and looked like a very gross log. The alien's that made them also looked like a cross between Cousin It and a Squid.
"This is one of the stinkiest dumbest ships that I can imagine" Sounds so funny with your voice 😂 Also loved the outro
I remember having the Star Wars complete guide and I saw the race of aliens that are humanoids with horse heads. Straight out of bojack horseman
Thakwaash. Though at least one source apparently redesigned them to look a bit more alien. A smaller one, Hohass "Runt" Ekwesh served as a member of the Commando/X-Wing unit Wraith Squadron, featured in the X-Wing novels Wraith Squadron, Iron Fist, Solo Command, and Mercy Kill. They also have split-personalities by default, which can make them confusing and difficult to deal with for more conventional species.
With these weird ship designs, does that mean that LEXX is making a comeback?
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yes.
That's what I was thinking. It needs to come back.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Pretty sure he's referring the the Lexx, from the show _Lexx_. Basically a 10km slightly dragonfly-ish thing armed with only a planetkiller, captained by a moron.
@@peternordgren ,
And crewed only by a biology experiment...
Oh, my body is *so* ready.
My favorite thing about these videos is how they remind me of the old days of obsessively pouring over the original Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. I LOVED that book.
5:28 “it looks so goofy, it looks so dumb”
Pls more vids like this it’s just so funny
Was just watching the previous one of these, what timing.
3:43 Remember that one episode of Doctor Who? You know, The Beast Bellow? Yeah, Doctor Who ALSO had a Space Whale with stuff bolted onto it...
Eck, I task you with finding the name of the ship that the bardottan cultists have in the Jar Jar + Mace Clone wars arc. It reminds me of the Hornet class and I can't find anything about it anywhere.
I'm pretty sure the aping of the CEC design language on the gh'troc freighters is intentional even in-universe. They're for people who want a Millenium Falcon but can't afford a Millenium Falcon, or something like that.
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Looks like something the combine would make honestly.
The wasp reminds me a lot of the design philosophy of the Combine from Half Life. They like repurposong creatures and giving them cybernetics
Honestly I have always liked the ithulan ore hauler
ah yes, the 90s Trend of Bionic that spured the trend of making giant Spaceanimal Ships that either were organic or looked like insects
Ah, the Ithullan Ore Hauler, also known as "why I need a headcanon to ignore really weird shit."
I thought it was justification for the existence of the Sun Crusher. Pretty sure Abeloth checks under her bed for colossus wasps every night.
I was scared there for a second because the Trident Drill is one of my favorite ships.
The Vie-vex fighter is the main Star fighter of The Imperial Horde Diamond Authority and is the backbone of their naval fighters measuring at a length of 39.1ft (11.9m) and at a Wingspan 30.8ft (9.4m) and at the Height 21.2ft (6.5m) this fighter is medium size of it's design and it's engine unit is a single ion engine that gave it a thrust to movie it forward it's atmosphere speed is about 2,300 mph while it's MGLT speed is about 400 MGLT while it's firepower are a mix of L-s1 laser cannon and Blaster Cannons, Twin used on the Single Trooper Aerial Platform or STAP (which are from star wars) and there are six in total three on each wing. The design of the Vievex fighter was base off of the The HYDRA Parasit fighter plane used by Hydra and when Steven was stopping a hydra agent he found a flash-drive he put it in his jacket pocket and later he was capture by Lex Luther it fell out of his pocket and as Lex Luther found it and showed everyone of this fighter they like it and made a few changes like the body of the fighter instead of it being a suicide bomber it's bod reassembles a f16 fighter jet while the wings and cockpit were move slightly a bit like WW2 fighter planes and the cockpit joystick is now a two handed yoke and when Veon told them about this manufacturing plant called Syeconn Fleet System they took it to them and they made several of them. They lack shields and a life support system and a hyperdrive built into them yet it's speed gives it the edge and the Imperial Horde Diamond Authority use them in massive swarms to overwhelm their enemies. with this deadly Star-fighter will ensure the galactic dominance of the Imperial Horde Diamond Authority.
Another good bug design is the Bardotta Shuttle from the Clone Wars.
And a good example of a sailboat ship is Kragan's Galleon from Resistance.
a cat that piloted an X wing, you learn something new everyday I guess
The Ghtroc 720 is one of the finest ships to grace the galaxy!
The most bizarre thing is that in the novel it was introduced in, the Hornet interceptor wasn't remotely described as *looking* like an actual hornet. It was described as being a highly streamlined, aerodynamic fighter with very thin wings. But when an official design was chosen for it, the "thin wings" part was the only thing retained from that description.
1:37 that looks like something LEXX would consume.
3:08 The Trident Just Works, it's one of those things I wish we saw more of in Star Wars media... Unlike the Walking Fridge.
Nice. Dunking on goofy augh looking ships
Ships that look like stuff... as StarWarsy stories. Imean... SPACEBALLS! That stuff is hilarious but it's got to stay in the universe of parody.
people: "mon calamari ships are aquatic looking"
mon calamari ships: Built underwater and made to travel through water
I love the Ghtroc 720. I also like turtles. Coincidence? Maybe. But mostly it's from acquiring and using one during an extended SWRPG campaign. It's tough, easy to find parts for, and there are lots of hiding places inside it. It is also distinctive. When everyone else in the party wants some CEC boondoggle, I have my space turtle which seems to be able to bypass checkpoints due to being nonthreatening.
5:25 AHOY ME LADDIES! I BE HERE TA SAY THIS BE A TERRIBLE DESIGN FOR A SPACE FARING VESSEL!
Okay, I got a good one: The Hapan Battle Dragon.
The ship is just so freaking *bad*, it not only looks like someone accidently glued the observation platforms of some tourist trap together, which comes with a whole host of visual and structural issues by itself, the weapons layout is also completely *asinine*.
You see, unlike literally every other capital ship design philosophy , the Hapans thought that putting Ion Cannons and Turbolasers into fixed batteries was too boring, and instead put their guns on *conveyor belts* that run around the top and discs. The engineering implications I leave for you to figure out, and shudder once it settles in just what exactly that means.
The reason? The weapons have a very slow rate of fire, so, rather than compensate for that like a reasonable person, like alternating dual-barrels or rotary guns, the Hapans put them on these stupid conveyors so that, while one gun recharges, a fresh one can move into place, meaning the ship has a blind spot the size of itself whenever it is shooting at something.
What's more, the Hapans also figured they would use these ships in massed formations and gang up on single or small groups of targets, so they also skimped on the targeting computers, putting way too few for all their weapons on the ships to be useful, meaning that they are basically just throwing a random hail of gunfire at the enemy and hope for the best if a Battle Dragon is found alone.
This is the kind of ship that makes me wonder just what in the everloving grace of God the Hapans were smoking during that design meeting, and why the one suggesting it wasn't immediately fired or put to the firing squad for that insanity.
Hey Eck idk if you'll read this but hearing Unfound's "Heaven" reminded me that you were the main dude who introduced me to Synthwave as a whole, like Unfound and Voyage, and Home, a few years ago. Thank you for that :)
With the Gh'troc freighters - in a RPG game I noted you could give them a modification that allowed turbolasers to be added to them and what if we added a twin-linked system to it, on the back either side of the cockpit,and called it Blastoise.
Guess what we flew for the rest of the campaign 🤣
So you made f*cking K-wing in backyard . Your ingenuity amaized me @Excubitor .
The Hornet class was used by the provong faction during the Yuuzhan Vong War. They were made the way the were in hopes of sucking up to the Vong
I would love more ships to be made from dead animal parts. Like maybe there is a creature that has body parts that are super impervious to lasers so they make better hull components then even the strongest metals.
Talking about really goofy designs, there is the AT-MT, a mountain assault transporter that looked like a giant spider, complete with an abdomen cargo pod.
Yes, bully the ships. Let your hatred grow, Sith apprentice.
The only turtle-based design I like is the Zeta Class Shuttle.
Surprised to see no AT-MT spider walker on here?
I actually really like the AT-MT, I think it looks pretty cool. And imagining it walking up the side of a mountain is also cool to visualize.
That's a walker, not a ship, and it was designed for scaling uneven terrain and sheer cliffs.
@@Janoha17 and for triggering people with arachnophobia
@@murphsmodels8853 "Rule through fear"
@@SpaceJawa *approving Darth Jadus noises*
Usually: "No bully 😢" Here: "More bully! 😂"
I kinda like the galleon in space idea, maybe because I grew up with the Bobobops. But something that I think might get Eckharts beef going, the interstellar trains of Galaxy Express 999.
As long as there's new content there's always gonna be terrible ships (looking at you tri wing)
Mar got the shoutout let's go! Next she's gonna be getting invited to Beerio
The Fairwind is basically Vingilótë from the Silmarilion. Built at Cirdan Shipyards for Jedi Master Eärendil.
The giant space wasp ship is the best man! I had an RP character with one lol
As cool-looking as the Sith Eternal fleet is, why did Darth Sidious copy-and-pasted Imperial designs, instead of learning from his mistakes?
Because J.J. - I mean Palpatine has no originality, and just wants to cash in on nostalgia.
Well, the New Republic was still using X-Wings and A-Wings, so the lack of originality wasn't confined to him.
@@Starsaber222 true
@@Starsaber222 At least the X-Wings were clearly a more advanced design. The Xyston was literally "let's upscale the already rather impractical Imperial I and slap on a massive weak point in the form a a superlaser that is directly connected to the main reactor!"
A good mosquito ship design is the Bardottan ship from Star Wats The Clone Wars Season 6 Episode 9 The Disappeared, Part II
You really need to bully the TYE-Wing - Y-wing engines coupled to the TIE Fighter cockpit...ugh.
If at all possible could you do a episode or such about ships that look kool or had kool features but in lore were a utter failure or a weaker design than its competitor manufacturing models?
Sail on ships can be useful, especially for long voyages where you don't wanna use energy. We actually have this on satellites and use the solar energy to "push" the object. But i'm not sure in star wars, where hyperspace exists, that these are really useful. It's probably more of a cosmetic and a "look a rich i am" trope.
Yeah, it's definitely best deployed in hard sci-fi settings. One of my stories involved laser pushed solar sails as a common alternative to fighting the Rocket Equation.
As far as real world boat inspired ships
In Star Wars, the mantis is the only one I can think of that I actually really love
I'm 100% with you on the animal shapes, Ek.
Spaceships made from gigantic hollowed out dead insects is pretty awesome as a concept, it just doesn't gel well with established SW
A sci-fi setting where that was the norm would be pretty wild
So... bit of a theory (really more of a headcanon) regarding the Millennium Falcon and the whole "cargo pod" thing that rectifies it with other lore about the ship:
The ability to act as a tugboat for intermodal cargo pods wasn't the primary role of the YT-1300, but rather a repurposing of the loading grapples of early-run YT-1300s that prompted CEC to make an intermodal docking system a standard option for the ship. The YT-1300 wasn't the first YT-series ship with an offset cockpit, that would be the YT-1200. But the YT-1200 has a single dorsal mandible containing a loading crane, which implies the side cockpit design was to facilitate front-end loading rather than any sort of attachable cargo pods. The YT-1300 replaced this crane with a magnetic loading grappler so that it could be used in microgravity, however this also effectively gave the ship a short-ranged tractor beam which some pilots started using to haul extra cargo in external containers. CEC did have an external cargo container option for the YT-1300, but it was designed to be attached on top of the ship and wasn't compatible with standard intermodal cargo systems. So eventually, after seeing how people were using the YT-1300's loading grapples (as well as having to deny warranty repair requests due to this unintended use of a ship feature), CEC decided to add a magnetic docking clamp for standardized intermodal racks to the YT-1300's mandibles, available as both an aftermarket upgrade and as a factory option. As for the unusually high flight performance and maneuverability for a freighter, CEC also prides themselves in making ships for starship enthusiasts. Most of their ships even up to the CR-90 Corvette have significantly better flight performance and maneuverability for ships of their size and role.
This rectifies the existence of the intermodal docking system with other, incompatible or just "nonsensical" options and features of the YT-1300, such as the front loading hatch, center cockpit and armored hull options, dockable shuttle and snub fighter options and the various internal layout options that vary in space efficiency.
I just found out about the "Darksaber" superweapon, which was basically the Hutts took the Death Star's main gun assembly, wrapped it in durasteel hull that made it look like a lightsaber (with some engines at the back), and boom, instant stupid design. Yes it made it smaller and more easy to maneuver, but it looks like a giant lightsaber in space, and that's just silly.
It wasn't stupid... it was just the weapon, propulsion, and power plant. Which made it completely vulnerable to... well... anything.
The last one is just ripped straight from Disneys treasure Planet.
AT-M6 almost looking like a gorilla is another example
Would love to see a version of this series, roasting Star Trek ship designs. Plenty of material from Starfleet on it's own, let alone all the alien factions.
I like how the video says the thumbnail is an Ithulian Ore Hauler when it's actually a Hornet Interceptor... Probably an even more egregious example of the trope hes describing.
Eckhart: "I don't like space ships to look like sailing ships in space"
Everyone Who Watched Treasure Planet Even Once: **Merry Sea Shanty stops** "The farq did you just say?" >_O
Also the Gungan ship they use to sail through the center of Naboo
It's lazy planning, these designers seem to think we'll accept anything they copy out of a nature magazine or seeing a design in split spaghetti sauce on the table. Star Trek at lease takes the time to come up with reasonable designs rather than throwing spaghetti at a wall and watch it sag and fall.
The best example of incoporate animal/insect feature into a vehicle is Ornithopter from Dune...
From what I've heard, in novel it's resemble a bird and in Villeneuve's adaptation is more like a dragonfly...
I've loved the Ghtroc 720 since the early 90s, as it was the default starting ship for the "smuggler" character template of the D6 RPG, and it has more passenger and cargo space than the stock YT-1300. Perfect for transporting a party of PCs... ;-)
To me that flying cargo hauler in the clone wars reminds me more pf a flying hippopotamus than anything.
I think the AT-M6 is an example of an animal-like vehicle done well.
The AT-AT looked intimidating af, so I can see why the designers nailed in on that towering, imposing shape, and just beefed it up further, while evoking the design of some unknown ape-like predator creature
There's no downsides to the design, and it's good that the larger front legs and larger body to accommodate the mega-calliber 6 gun make sense and are practical
I hate cockpits that are not centered on faster ships. To me this make navigation significantly harder when you wnat to go anywhere that is not big empty space. Plus I find it goofy as you put it. Also for Savages ship, I dissagre with you. To me their is absolutly no reason for the engines to be put into such vulnerable spot other than give the ships legs. Seriously those thing slooks so fragile and house one of the most improtant component.
Bad Taxidermy, starwars edition!
the Kilik: am I a joke to you?
The old cartoon *G Force: Battle of the Planets* must have been traumatic for you as a child.
Ok, this one I actually agree with.
We better be careful or else Eck will be after our Basilisk War droids next...
"Goofy." Ah-hyuck! 🤣🤣🤣
Impractical space-sails at least can be an opulence/wealth/indulgence thing. Consider that a space-only vessel doesn't need to worry about how aerodynamic it is, and also just say it's a radiator or something.
Lol I 100% believe that Farfalla would have that ship though, and Hoth would sigh every time he saw it drop out of hyperspace
thank god you got to this one finally! the Wasp fighter
Whaleship.....stares in Avengers 1
The Baudo-class star yacht is another example of starships evoking animals done right with its elegant manta ray-like profile.
Goofy ship Fans: It wasn’t God mocking but ECKHARTLADDER! *Insert requiem music*
The boat kinda fits the jedi tho 😆
4:17. Bros the Tortuga HQ from Wild Kratts.
The best part about ugly ships in sci-fi is how satisfying it is to watch them blow up
Enough animal ships! Back to geometry we go. My ship will have an inflato-hab up front, and a big long truss to mount the nuclear eng-
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Aaand, it's a tadpole.
Dammit.
thanks Eck