Not Even Getting The 4080 Super Was Enough Nvidia Guys, Always Something More I Need To Buy
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Pc is good. Pc people sometimes are not. Salty jealous little people. The snobbery is strong and by far the worst thing about moving to pc. These comment sections are full of 🤡 great vids man. Most of the people bitching and moaning are probably still rocking 1060’s and just salty you have better parts. Your gpu cost more than my entire computer 😂😂😂 Keep the vids comin
Sadly people get too obsessed with technology and fiddling constantly instead of actually playing games it's like they are missing the whole point. I honestly have friends on PC who spend all their gaming time installing mods and running performance checks instead of actually playing games and it's never enough for them. I was the same when I had my 3090 but I saw the light and these days I just load up my PS5 and just game and have never felt like I'm missing out 😂
Well, now, let's be fair, theirs plenty of very vocal console fanboys, ha ha. And PC is objectively better on the whole, in my opinion, with the obvious stipulation that the hardware you buy is better than the console components, and you have waaaay more choices for what you can use it for and the software you can run. But yeah, I don't go out of my way to convert people or to try to make anyone feel bad about their consoles. I'm all for everyone using whatever they want. If you're enjoying using it, that's all that really counts.
They’re definitely a tough crowd 🤔
"bound" and "bottlenecked" are two different things for sure. If you're gpu bound in some games and cou bound in some games you're not "bottlenecked". If you're losing 20% or more of your FPS to your cpu performance almost consistently across every game, then yeah you're cpu is a bottleneck. Less than 10 fps drop is not a bottleneck.
Bottlenecked means bound at all times. The same thing is happening in both scenarios
@@JohnnyEMatos it's one of those words that comes with connotations. You, I, and everyone in this thread know the connotations that come with telling someone their PC is bottlenecked. There is 100% a an implication when you use that term that the person is leaving significant performance on the table by not upgrading.
When you envision the literal neck of a bottle, is it 3% narrower than the base of the bottle? No. Connotation matters. I wouldn't want to give someone the impression that they absolutely should upgrade to regain 5 lost fps. So I would probably not choose to use that term if the loss was insignificant.
You're almost never actually bound by the CPU though. Often times it's your cache, RAM, or your SSD or something like that. That's why adding more cache to the CPU helps so much in many scenarios. Also the way your games or programs are coded plays a part as well. A 5800x3D isn't really a faster CPU than a 5800X(non-3D). It's actually a slower CPU but it's more utilized because the extra cache helps keep the cores fed with data more often. If the L1, L2, and L3 caches were all extended a bit it would have an even bigger effect on gaming performance. Gaming is a memory intensive task and having more memory in the right places and at fast speeds helps more than faster speeds on the cores.
@@theonerm2 I can vouch for that I have two RTX 2080 ti's in S.L.I on MSI meg ace x570 & am more cpu bottleneck by low clocks of the 5800x 3D, Than when I have vs the 5600x that I had running the system. People also forget that clocks can decrease real latency better than cache can hide it.
Yeah my 1st upgrade from a RTX 3060 12gb is now the RTX 4070 TI Super at 1440p holy smokes I have been missing out.
CPU overhead for NVIDIA is a known thing.,..narratively...ray tracing is a case by case but it too also increases that bottleneck.
True Ray Traycing is strugle
As a gun guy I’m starting to realize the PC snobs and the gun snobs are genuinely one in the same personality 🤣
Oh I’ve noticed as well, they’re everywhere, in every hobby out there lol.
If it makes you feel better, I'm using a 4080 with a Ryzen 5600x, so I probably have even more of a bottleneck. But it's "good enough" for me now, and most of the games I play aren't that graphically intense. I did play Cyberpunk just fine, though - I let the Nvidia software do auto settings for that one, DLSS turned on, yeah, but all the RT stuff too, and the RT lighting on "Psycho" and I averaged just over 100 fps, which I was cool with. I do plan on upgrading, but figured since I waited this long, I might as well hold out till AMD's next gen. comes around later this year.
As a former console gamer, switched about 6 years ago. I could never go back but damn these PC elitist nerds are insufferable.
Might be a HDMI or display port cable. try to keep your tv on display port if possible and if your tv has gsync make sure it matches your main diplay. I.E if your main screen has gsync turn it on to match the tv if not keep them off unless you need it. it can be wonky at times. i just dealt with something similar. all i had to do was turn on gsync on my tv and i switched my display ports around and it fixed itself.
Also update on that issue. I think it might just also be some bugs with the latest n Nvidia driver causing black screens.
I like this guy bc he’s brave. He calls himself Frogboy and no matter what he’s gonna recommend AMD.
AMD is Awesome
Keep doing you man, I have the same CPU 5900x with a 2080 SUPER. I have enjoyed and still continue to rock out on the AM4 platform.
Thats a nice camera, is it a sony @7 3 ?
Sony ZV-E10
You can always buy better stuff every 3-6 months in the PC world. It all comes down to “does your PC do what you want it to do? Does it feel ok while doing it?” If you answered yes both times then you are good.
Raytracing has never been a selling point for me. I don't even play very many games that have it, and most of the ones I do play that have it like Resident Evil, it's a fairly light implementation and both brands are pretty close in relative performance. The main game I play where Nvidia kicks the sh** out of AMD is Cyberpunk, but that one game isn't enough to make me hands-down prefer Nvidia over AMD.
Also, much of what you're saying is why I typically just buy the top-tier cards whenever I upgrade. Even though it's more expensive, you just get to bypass so much of this bullsh*t that people squabble about. I place a lot of value in not having to care. That might be coming to an end pretty soon though because there aren't enough newer games I like to justify spending 4090 money on this sh*t, and too many of these games are coming out broken and unoptimized.
I see similar sentiments on Facebook but it seems like any question about a PC requires a sarcastic answer in public forms.
You can't listen to what everybody else says or thinks because it will drive you crazy.
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Don't Tire yourself and do what makes you comfy
You just need a bank loan all you got to do is get a second mortgage on your house😂 no more trips to Disney World and no more allowance for the kids😅 oh yeah and sell the family dog it's only costing you more money😅 there's your bottleneck oh yeah and you need a second job🎉😊
I used all your donations to get the 4080 Super LOL 😆 😂 🤣
I have a 5900x and a 6700xt. Works good. Currently playing older games at 4K.
The GPU manufacturers are following the FiFa/CoD model, new releases each year. I dont think its needed, sure if you havent got a PC, get the latest and greatest, but otherwise, get every ounce of value out of what you already got, no point spending another grand on a card for it to look virtual the same with a slight increase in frames
horizon forbidden west is kicking the shit out of my 7800xt in some areas. How many fps are you targetting?
30 fps hahaha joke
@@LeTech772 yeah he likes his vsr; I got dynamic resolution scaling with fsr targeting 85 fps and anti lag on, and no frame gen; all those people complaining they have trouble shooting the squirrels, I'm like, "why?"
In your experience.. What would be a decent upgrade from a EVGA 2080 SUPER? AMD or NVIDIA recommendations will be fine im am not bias or fan-boyish to either brand.
Honestly I would give AMD a shot the 7900XT is a great card for 700 bucks. I would also consider either the 7900XTX or 4080 super. I think you will be satisfied either way.
@@frogboyx1Gaming 7900GRE not so far in perf and cheaper could be good too ! It depend on the budget and resolution he want to play.
Froggy am absolutely with you. I have the 5600x running aalong a rx6800 from asrock. Playing at well over 60 on 1440 and even many games in 4k at a consistent 60. Ray Tracing is great. The only thing is RT is the software for the moment. We wwill soon see a better way to implement lighting in games soon. As you said even with the top of the line hardware CP2077 with ultra RT on is a sub 60FPS experience. Thanks for the content and chin up.
Thank you.
Mid range is the best value choice, unless you're a premium user :
2/3 screens or a 49" Ultrawide, does content creation or workload.
But 70-80% GPU Usage is heavy CPU Bottleneck.
Glad to hear you sold those other cards before they lose too much value. Been cool if Doc would’ve grab that 7800xt.
@frogboyx1gaming i cannot believe that you said that is not a big diference between 4070 super and 4080 super. You don't see the difference because you have a little bottleneck on your cpu i know that you don't understand this but this is the way it is. In some games you will be more or less cpu bottlenecked but it doesn't mean that you won't have good performance that just mean that you won't have acurate results because of this.
Honestly most of the people I know who buy NVIDIA gpu's stare more on the gpu inside their case than the monitor.
This sounds like a little buyers remorse. The 4080super is a top 2 gpu out at the moment. Now do you have to buy additional parts to optimize it....probably. doesnt mean it is not one of the top 2 gps out todate. I recommend returning it. I would return it. the peformance increase may not be worth it and thats fine. wait for the 50 series. Its around the corner... Or keep it and enjoy the performance increase. optimize it for even better performance.
I think it's worth keeping if you plan on playing at 1440p. Its probably going to be on par with the 5070, possibly. Instead of 4k, maybe 1800p is a great option. At those resolutions it can last quite a long time. It's just not what you would expect from a GPU that is 2nd currently. Apart from the 4090, GPUs above $600 at 4k is really similar in performance.
I don't agree that if you're getting a 4080 Super you need it for 4k only, 1440p is just fine, even 1080p but maybe slightly overkill.
Although I don't believe in the brand war, neither is better than the other its all preference really.
Me myself using a Strix 4080 Super OC in 1440p combined with the i9-14900k, it works for me and I'm satisfied with my setup for now:)
Simple Ricky boy exemple my gpu RTX 3060 12 Go for gaming (1440p/1080p) RTX 4060 8 Go (1440p/1080p) and RTX 4080 super 16 Go (4K/1440p)
@@LeTech772 I dont know what you just said, whats the Go edition?
7900xtx is the best card out there. 3090ti level rt performance isn't bad, 24gb vram is awesome and price to performance is better than nvidia high end. I've had a 4070ti and a 4090 in the past 7 months and I have stuck with the xtx after everything. My frametimes are smoother than ever and amds dedicated hardware scheduler I feel has something to do with that.
Each PC set up is different. 1 thing i learned asa Nvisia user is its better to go w a direct commincation software logics ie card to monitor direct approach to avoid flickering. if my gpu wasa AMD type i wouldnt bother w a nvidia labaled monitor but adaptive sync to avoid flickers . 2) 1 thing i dont like is the nvidia Tax. Conclude: Take advice that works 4 you.
Andrew your R9 5900X is nowhere near being needed to be upgraded. It's about on avg 17% slower then the 7900X that I have...........But at 1080P which neither one of us game at. At 1440p and 4k that gap closes down considerably. I'd keep that CPU for another year or two at least, no games are going to utilize all 12 cores 24 threads anytime soon.
😂😂😂 you realize in actual gaming the 5900x is slower/equal to the 7600x? When it comes to his nvidia GPUs yes. He does need a better cpu. Especially with the tracing rays
If people got the money idc… but i feel people who always chase that high are really ruining the market because this leads to a rushed fast moving market of hardware that may sometimes be unfinished. Which will lead to a better product in a couple month.
I really want Intel to make better GPUs in the future. We need at least 3 GPU competitors for the market to be better. What you're saying about the 4080 is pretty much what i've researched so i'm not shocked one bit.
It's true
I still think you should try an Arc card also, compare it against the rx 7600 xt you got. The lowe tier battle. :)
Battlemage is when I will get an arc card
Why are they suppressing the new solid state GPU technology to keep selling the GPU bricks??? We're all being played with this GPU crap... 💥
should just return the 4080 and roll with the 4070S unti you decide on AM5
PC gaming is nothing but constant FOMO and I hate it, but also love it 😂
This 👆
Facts… I just built my first PC last week and I went all out (to me anyway lol), then I started seeing thumbnails of the next gen releasing soon and thought “well fk me I should’ve waited” 😂
The new gen gpu's are gonna get scalped and be overpriced, you made the right choice imo. Only thing worth waiting for is a possible price drop on the 40 series @@G__Mason
Hey man keep on keeping on. I have a 7900xtx with a OC’d Ryzen 3600 and I play pretty much any game I want above 60 fps but TH-cam/nvidia fan boys act like I made the worst mistake in my life lol
It gets crazy out here. You are not missing much honestly.
@@frogboyx1Gaming People forget the fun about PC gaming is having a system that can be upgraded over time. The fact I can throw in a $1000 video card into a 5 year old system and destroy everything at 1440p on reasonable settings is fantastic. I’m almost mad because there’s almost no point paying $300 to get a 5800x3d just to get 10-20% more performance
Ray tracing and DLSS being clearly superior as well argueably having more stable drivers are more than enough reasons to pay more for an Nvidia card
I prefer hdr gaming over ray tracing. There's just too much performance hit with my gpu to use ray tracing.
Too bad most devs can't be bothered to do HDR correctly.
Bro dont upgrade gpu every gen just get a gpu you want and wait for some generation and only upgrade if you are getting atleast 50% gpu for the same price you paid for the gpu today not 50% performance for 50% more money thats dumb like the 4000 series has done they are demanding
Imagine how annoying it was when SLI was popular
I have S.L.I RTX 2080 t.i's. Specifically, mGPU games like Deus Ex Mankind Divided match a RTX 4090 in 4K. That's what proper mGPU can do.
It all depends on the game and resolution at the end of the day. I have a 7800X3D + 7900 XTX and some games are still CPU bound, so it's not like there's a way to solve that completely anyways. No CPU will get you 100% usage with the high end GPUs in every single game. Could you get a better experience with a better CPU? Of course, but as you said, there's no need to rush it since you are already getting the experience you want
I just built my first PC last week with the same CPU/GPU you got and so far I love it. Had to upgrade my monitor tho, got lucky af and found the Asus ROG 32” 4k OLED in stock at micro center and man the games look absolutely gorgeous!
the more you spend, the less you get for your money
Absolutely
It really should boil down to a simple question or 2, "Do I NEED it or do I just WANT it?" and "How long till I upgrade my monitor?"
If you're on a 1080p 60Hz panel aim for a GPU/CPU combo capable of around 80 average.
By aiming 25% higher you can enable Vsync and get exactly 60fps and no tearing.
You'll only NEED entry level parts to achieve this.
Same is true for 1080p, 1440p @144Hz-240Hz and above aim higher, lower to middle tier components.
4K 60Hz you're entering upper mid range or high end components.
For 4K 120Hz+ you're gonna NEED to setup up yet again Now your gonna need flagship parts.
The only real justification for getting uber expensive or ridunculous performance parts is if you have either
A) Money to burn every generation or
B) If you're planning to "Future proof" by running the hardware you own for 2-6 years, you're skipping 2 or even 3 generations between upgrades,
This last option gives you the chance to create a rolling upgrade cycle with each core component being changed.
Year 1/2 a high spec monitor, year 3/4 a high spec system core (Mobo CPU and RAM), year 5/6 a flagship GPU.
The gains seen by skipping a generation are hugely impressive
I use all of the above methods, I've had a 3840 x 1080p 144Hz panel for 5 years now it's the next thing I plan to upgrade and on my 5700 GPU I was getting 80-125 fps in my fav game.
So I WANTED to future proof my rig and forked out for a 7900XTX, net result? 120-330fps on that panel but averaging in the 250 range, Ideally I'm looking at 5120 x 1440p 240Hz panel.
My recent upgrade path looks kinda like this.
CPU GPU Monitor Performance NEED
2018-20 1800X/2700X (1800X died) 5700 3x 1080p 144hz 60-100fps Not much
2020-22 3XXX skip 6XXX Skip (cost)Skip 3840 x 1080P 144Hz 80-125fps CPU or GPU upgrade
2022-24 5800X/5800X3D (broke a pin) 7900XTX Skip 200-330fps Monitor
2024-26 7XXXX Skip 8XXX Skip 5120x 1440P 240Hz 180-280fps Probably AM5 Zen 5 build
I've kept pretty close to this pattern the only discrepancies were component failure of the 1800X and ripping a pin off the 5800X when stripping and cleaning the custom cooling loop.
This way you're chasing 1 segment each generation and get huge performance boosts at every stage apart from the monitor resolution which will cause a mild regression.
Bu-but 5090ti super duper😭😭😭
Make a couple of comps for your kiddos
These high end gpus are so expensive....who would spend 2000 dollar on a gpu....and the generation jump is shit amd or nvdia both some people just argue that performance gap between 3080 and 4080 is huge but the point is price what is the point of the new gen if we are paying 50% more for 50% more performance
I wonder if some people are emotionally attached to their hardware/brand of choice and become offended when they're not validated. IDK man, can't please everyone. 🤷♂
Possibly
You ain’t gotta wonder cause it’s 100% the case lol
i just got my evga 3080 ftw3 ultra for 580. dont think its a LHR either. not that i care. that and going from my 5800x to a 5800x3d..... dude im 240 min in infinite maxxed @ 1080P with my 280hz monitor. should get the 5800x3d if youre gunna ride the 1331 socket for another year or two. avg like 30% higher than my 5800x. $280 at microcenter. the real thing is my mins have jumped 60%. there is no lows. its just pissing frames.
I have definitely considered it but I actually use the other cores for content creation
I don't know.. I have a 5900x and it does feel a bit slow. No where near the insane performance I felt at release. If you buy a lot of things you don't need then be willing to sell them QUICKLY. Watch intel's next refresh and get a 14900ks for your workload. Double the amount of cores you have now.
So you saying if someone is getting review samples it means he is sold out and people needs to listen to you bcs you spent loads of cash on GPUs. I am sure you will change that narative once Nvidia sends you something, if it comes to that. Man you are stubborn like my old Bull Terrier with these CPU thing.. If i was close to you i would send you my freakin 5800x3d and force you to watch those frametime lines so you finally understand what people are trying to tell you..
hell yea your on a freaking roll dude! keep the pc tech stuff coming i may stay am4 for the rest on 2024, put 100 bucks up a month for a new platform on new years bam 1000 bucks
That would be smart honestly
Dude go look the performance difference between generations of AMD cards.. fuck all gains
Poor Frog because of horribly optimized PC games he can't play at 4k on 4080 consistently and is already reduced to 1440p gaming if he wants the frames. I bet he wishes he would have got that 4090 when he could have instead of wasting so much on all those lower series cards. 5000 series on the way soon too so the 4080 is already outdated and fast becoming a middle of the road card after he has only just bought that's too much who can keep up with that nonsense 😂
I'm so glad I'm on PS5 now and got out of that ridiculous spec measuring contest when i sold my old PC whose 3090 chugged on horribly optimized PC games whereas current gen console runs great. Honestly since getting the PS5 and seeing how much better optimised games are compared to PC gaming has genuinely become fun again and I spend 99% of my time gaming instead of fiddling with menu screens and adding endless mods that often crash and there is no way I'm going back to that. I just wanna game and I've done so much more of that since moving from PC and there is no way I'm going back
You should get that $2000 Nvidia card that catches fire. 🤣
With 30 connector in 2030 😂
If you don't understand out logic then you don't understand PC gamers. You are new to this. Come back in 5 years you will be just like us.
Dude, I don't know you from Adam.. but it's YOUR machine, put what you want in it. set reasonable boundaries for your viewer base and enforce them. [politely, of course]. If you let everyone else drive every action, you're going to be the equivalent of the infinite amount of monkeys at typewriters attempting to reproduced the collected works of Shakespeare.
For real. You are definitely right about that.
most people that criticize u dont actually own gpu like urs , they just pretend to be among the pc master race , and thinking themselve have all the knowledge about pc when in reality they just jealous with what u have. dont bother with them
why are you complaining about people on the comments?
Nvidia fanboys will buy an Nvidia GPU for it's efficiency just to pair it with an Intel CPU that completely negates any efficiency gains they had.
But hey, AMD drivers are buggy and don't work.. right?
I can't justify paying the price premium for an Nvidia GPU when price to performance and longevity are the most important things to me.
Paying $1600 CAD for a 4080S just to NEED to use upscaling tech when I run raytracing isn't something I can justify, but plenty of people do it online. Anybody who bought the 2000 series cards for RT got totally burned and the community collectively ignores that, 3000 series performance is pretty awful too. But according to everyone I hear online, this time will be completely different! I can wait 5 years before I buy RT tech, I'd rather invest the difference in Nvidia stock lol.
Yeah 💯 agree. I was always a console gamer but switched to a high end oc. I have a 4080 and a 7800x3D. Im going to be honest I don't see much difference between that and my ps5 and series x those crazy pc guys way way way overhype pc visuals in general.
You don't need to buy anything if you're happy with the experience you're getting. You're going to spend $1000 just to please 3 people who argue with you everytime you say something bad about Nvidia?
Your video's are usually received positively by your community, with probably only a few guys who just like the negative interaction with you as a smaller channel. You reply to their posts or make whole videos about them, and they get a rise out of that.
If you're saying the 4080 Super and the 7900XT are pretty much equal ofc the Nvidia bro's will have something to say about that, because they don't own the card, but they've watched 3942384024830 benchmarks so they have an "idea" how it should perfrom.
The 4080 Super is only 15%-20% better than the 7900XT rasterized. In most cases you won't notice it. Even if you upgrade your CPU. Upgrade your PC for content or to get the results you're happy with. Not for the 3 guys who want you to believe Nvidia is the best.
Geez that 4080 super was an anti climax
You wasting your money on those high end nvidia cards. Ray tracing is so not worth it. Wish all that compute power was used in physics and smarter NPCs, instead of diminishing returns RT and upscaling.
You want to see some brand loyalty and snobbery? Check out the firearm community where if you don't spend 5k on a rifle with 3k worth of accessories, you're a poor lol!
I would never ask you to buy a 4080 super though lol. Mid range is my sweet spot too.
On HDR10 display with path tracing, the visual fidelity is outstanding. DLSS, frame gen, and path tracing are the trifecta and my 4070 is perfect for me at 1440p. That said, I like the idea that my money will help spur the next upgrades that make my favorite hobby even more pleasing to my eyes.
AMD has my money for CPU's but not GPU's yet. My 5800x is not bottlenecked on the 4070. I was thinking of selling it and getting a 4070ti super but it would probably be held back by the 5800x because your 5900x is holding back the 4080 super.
I think you would still be fine with the 5800x
@@frogboyx1Gaming I keep looking to find someone with that combo so I know what to expect.
AM5 pricing is asinine in my opinion. I will buy AM5 when the 7800x3d and itx boards are more reasonable cost wise. I might even go intel for the 15th gen when they drop that if AMD keeps their heads in the clouds.
Intel is in a very weak place, so I expect the most effort out of them in the next couple years.
@CuttinInIdaho the 5800x and 5900X are pretty close in performance on gaming I had the 5800x for a while.
@@frogboyx1Gaming Good to know thanks dude. I think I will pull the trigger on that ti super
CPU platform could have been upgraded instead of both cameras. 4090 is leagues above, can't say about 4080S but it is held back at 1440P. Nvidia was overpriced on launch certainly when products are gimped in vram or above MSRP. That 4080S deserves a better CPU pairing. 5900X isn't trash but it is 4 years old, an AMD gen is decently old when compared to just an Intel gen, every year/so. IPC gains on 7000 series are much better, I may move over there next releases.
I think I made the right decision but I thank you for the suggestion
PCs sound like a convoluted mess lol You want a good olde PS5 like me... 8K 4k 120fps HDR 🙃
Dude no one is saying your 5900x is trash . it is just that you cried about forza 5 performance at 4k and at that opening scene were the fps was 51 , your gpu usage dropped to 55% . it shows a huge cpu bottleneck. now see what a normal 4080 does when it is not cpu bottlenecked in forza. 4k no dlss, 100 to 120 fps. btw his 4080 is heavily outperforming your 4080 super because he is not bottlenecked th-cam.com/video/ZWUKUfGwIa4/w-d-xo.html
You linked a video of Forza 5 from a year ago. Froggy was playing FOrza Motorsport, two complete different games.
Also, why not also look at GPU usage when it was over 90% and still getting mid 70's.
Why do you guys cry when someone is underwhelmed by the performance of a high end Nvidia card?...it is what it is.
@@DwaynedaGamer Dude are you that naive and clueless. anyway i have timestamped the video. Look at the stats. At the beginning , the fps was close to 51 fps while his gpu usage was 55% . that is a huge cpu bottleneck right there. th-cam.com/video/oDgDFIKEgqQ/w-d-xo.html
completely different game LOL
@@frogboyx1Gaming it doesn't change the fact ur gpu was starved at 55% and ur fps dropped to 51. That was what led to you crying about the 4080 while the main culprit was your cpu. That guy, check all his videos. His 4080 is pegged at 100% usage. Full utilization.
@@giarc00007 again watch his video before dropping senseless comments. His main complaint was how the 4080 dropped fps down to the high 40s in that game and performance was not what he expected. At that particular point his cpu was overwhelmed and choked his gpu. That was a clear bottleneck and no amount of damage control can override that fact. For the First 5 minutes, it was clear as day. Lol 😆 🤣 😂
Dont buy anymore lol 😂
From me at least im saying dont spend more.
Your 7900xt is more compatible with your current build and for you the extra money for you to upgrade is not worht it.
For me and alot of people we dont want fsr and rt is just alot better on our builds. Frog cyberpunk brings everthig to its knees but come on the amd cards get slaughtered its so well known.
This is a lose lose. Your not happy just return it nothing wrong with that. Mix tier is where you feel you get your value.
So is my 4080 Super it's actually really good
@frogboyx1Gaming get products your happy with.
Like I'm not annoyed your not happy with it. There's multiple factors to any purchase pc wise. If I had a xt run perfect then my build or for whatever reason doesn't give me the performance I would be upset too.
Game that upset me was spiderman my 3080 runs it Better than my 4080 cus of cpu multi threaded..which I need to change. It's a huge factor in that game. I am actually looking into this setting. Everyhijg else on my new pc is so much better than 3080.
@@c523jw7 I have gpu Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 12 Go good for years 2024
It’s like the damn 3080 all over again. Little bro frog Waits till the generation is almost done. Buys the card that doesn’t have enough ram to comfortably make it through another generation to get real value out of it. Complains it’s only a medium jump up from an already 900$ card. 🤷🏻♂️🤌🏻 - then finds a way to somehow make it about the adversarial nature of Nvidia "bros" 😐
The little bro could have bought an epic pc and 4090 ( like mine 😌 ) Near the start of the generation & forgot all about specs and stuff & just became a gamer again. 🤷🏻♂️ And he could happily be looking forward to getting another crazy upgrade in a year 🤭👊🏻
@@tituscrow4951 could've gamed like a human being instead of an animal 😅. My point is how are you happy with paying 700 for 360p upscaled to 1080p cyberpunk and we underwhelmed with 4 times better performance for less than half the price...I don't understand that.
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Thank you!!!! After all those years you are the first one, at least IMHO, who say that to the World out loud. And it's true as you say. Nvidia rulez. AMD is trying to keep up, barely. Still I don't wo'nt even think of market with only one GPU maker...ANd doesn't matter which one. It would be hell from green side as same as red side. Prizes are crazy and 4080 with 16GB is masochism for the price.....
I get it high end gaming is expensive but to use 4080 super with 5900x i dunno man means your using ddr 4 ram aslo. Cpu ddi not matter as much in the past newer games especially with high end graphics cards will need the bandwith of newer cpus , if your happy with your purchase thats a different thing but i would have upgraded mobo , ram and cpu first before getting high end gpu.