This is 1000% actual and factual. The worst part is they believe being cutesy and quirky will attract fans. Basically every band on Instagram is a manic pixie dream girl.
Its easier because a focusrite and amp sims cost like 200 bucks. Its harder because there's so many of you that nobody will notice even if you kinds stand out. And don't get me started on how nobody notices you if you're not an EU or US band.
@ileutur6863 it's not too hard to stand out. Don't use pentatonic minor and actually play at a high level. Idk if it's because I'm from Utah but 95 percent of the metal musician community for my state is intermediate at best, and a good drummer is fantasy.
@@ileutur6863This is always a reality. I'm from South America but lived in the US in my formative years, it wasn't easy because the styles of metal and experimentation I had in mind were bigger in Europe, but at least there was a remote possibility. Unfortunately, due to visa expiring and being unable to do anything or become an ilegal immigrant, I had to go back to my country in my early 20's and gave up all hope. Made some music here and there to fulfill myself, but it's almost impossible to get noticed if you're from here (and I'm not even in Brazil at least), even if you sing in English. I would have to otherwise be a bitch to the only couple of mediocre music genres that have a remote possibility of making it here and I don't like them, just like I don't like being forced into making music in my native language which to me isn't so great for music.
@@preston2636Playing at a higj level is not exactly easy for everyone, time, dedication, skill, motivation, and then all the possible issues that can arise in someone's life, even in youth.
"Make something that people fucking cry to" is such a good quote. Legit we're supposed to be in this music thing to make people's hearts bleed. Not to go viral.
Yeah, art and true "fufillment". These are the same type of people that say music/metal is "entertainment" or "just music". I think people that think like that should just be going 9-5 to an office (not that that's wrong, I've done it) and shut up.
It's a pretty bad quote to me, it's just suggesting that going for an emotional song/style instead of a fun one will always work. As if there wasn't a ton of sappy and melodramatic music reels trying to get attention in a similar fashion, but going for the "let's make the X-Factor judges cry" vibe. There's so much complexity to be explored in the discourse around what makes music good and this guy just oversimplifies it to "make something emotional, make something that stands out". There are different audiences for different niches, and there is definitively one for the quirky kind of instagram music just as there is an audience for death metal without fans crying to a Cannibal Corpse song. Not all good music is emotional and not all music should be emotional. It's a pretty low effort video, so no hate, but if one really tried to apply this suggestion I imagine having your feed invaded by artists trying their hardest to make you cry wouldn't be better. It takes a special kind of artist to create meaningful and genuine emotional music, and if you aren't that type of person, then just make the music that defines you better instead of trying to be someone else
@@ecklynnyou're thinking way too hard. It's a single-sentence quote, which makes its point succinctly All it means is "art is about emotion, not popularity". That's literally all
I mean isn’t that the whole point of being a “rockstar” nowadays? It’s always been like that. Honestly I don’t know what else to say about the rock and metal community nowadays lmao elitism runs everywhere
@@metalrockstarizer89 What so because a song is louder and harsher than kpop or some shit it HAS to be just for attention and cannot have actual soul or meaning in it? What a weak mentality. Guess Iron Maiden, Slayer and I dunno 80% of metal just exists to make money and not to speak out to anyone or be interesting to listen to.
@@Haispawner it’s not a weak mentality it’s the truth. Rockstars today do not act like rockstars anymore. Who are the new rockstars? Rappers. They got money, girls, cars, fame, clout everything. Like Kanye and Gene Simmons said. Rappers are the new rockstars. And this is the problem with the rock and metal community at the moment, everyone’s fighting whether to be mainstream or not mainstream.
Well whats the point with put out music but nobody listen, at least with popularity some portion of the audience might be interested to check out their music...
Every decade there’s an 80’s thrash revival wave with bands that all sound the same. Gotta give the scene credit though, it’s a sound and formula that never truly goes out of style.
@@GrantH yeah I'll grant you that it all sounds the same. But imho "modern metal" has sounded pretty much exactly the same since 2007. If a metal genre is going to sound exactly the same for decades on end, then at the very least it can be like "'member the 80's, 'member Mr. T and and Knight Rider?" For the sole benefit of forty something metalheads like me. This is the way
Making good music is absolutely huge but also actually networking and being involved in whatever local music scene in your area is also massive. Selling out a 200 cap room in your hometown is infinitely more valuable than having 20k ig followers
yikes. let's see your amazing band. i looked them up after this video and they're actually sick?? why are they bad? because theyre young? because theyre women? why? like give me an actual reason that isn't just "they suck". you can't because there isn't one. Please consider building those up in your local scene instead of tearing them down.
@@dovemaarika1668 idk maybe on a casual youtube comment u dont have to write a 48 paragraph review on a band you wont remember existed after this video
@@goldenfurniture123 you know who definitely won't forget though? is the bands featured in the video. something really doesn't sit right with me about this grown adult man making content hating on kids for trying to do something positive and enjoy themselves? The bands are all either minors or extremely young, and if this guy actually cares about the future of the music scene he should actually encourage them and give constructive feedback in a kind way instead of bully them for views. I ask you how you would feel if it was your band in the video and he just kept on going on about how boring and annoying you are when he doesn't even know you? when he's an adult? when he's making money on bullying you? weird. In the future please consider being a force of positivity and inspiration for others it will do amazing things for you and them. have a nice day and good luck with your endeavors
definitely! I feel like as a musician trying to “make it” these days, seeing all these bands get loads of followers off viral memes makes you think YOU have to be doing that too. feels relieving to know that embarrassing yourself online doesn’t actually translate into fans
Finally! Someone who could verbalize my thoughts about these bands. I hated seeing so many Instagram reels saying, "Do you like deftones? Slowdive? Alice in chains? You should check out our bands" - and it's the most generic stock music songs you can find online. I've seen dudes who make generic nu metal songs that are royalty free that go way harder than what these bands are pushing out
The amount of times I've seen people invoke the name of Deftones and then just post a generic shoegaze song likely written in 20 minutes is hilarious. Genuinely feel many of these bands aren't even music fans. Sundazer is an awesome exception
Yeah, but you don't talk about one important thing - these crappy videos are getting these bands actual attention, even if there's no substance to them. My band had a breakout 1st album that was well received within our subgenre, got us attention from a few labels and opening slots for touring bands, but our posts on instagram never went over 100 views because we just post regular concert footage and promptions instead of meme content. People at least stop to cringe at these bands, but no one to even look at original music
You hit the nail on the head exactly. One of the most important things that this guy doesn't address in this video is that most of these bands do these cringe videos because THEY HAVE TO. The music industry has evolved to a point where making good music simply isn't enough to get your band going places anymore, you either have to be known within a local scene or get famous on social media (like the bands in these videos) What's the name of your band btw, I'd love to check out your music
The big thing that a lot of bands with a strong online presence dont understand is that their viral hungry marketing tactics VERY rarely result in an actual core fanbase
This is what happens when everything is so algorithm and engagement driven, bands stop being musicians and start becoming "content creators". If you want the state of music to improve, it has to be done from the ground up. Support local/independent artists by going to shows and buy their merch and CDs. Fuck your spotify streams and instagram likes. That era is coming to an end. Time to bring back the old ways.
I would buy CDs from local bands but 1) there's just like 1 band in my little city and it doesn't have any CD out (if I remember correctly). 2) I don't have money + it's expensive for me (Argentina lmao). But I can understand your argument. Cheers.
Let me be a grumpy old fart and suggest that musicians practice their instrument. A pedal board is not your instrument. Your guitar is your instrument. Don't learn what settings make you sound like Metallica, practice so you can play like Brownie McGhee. Learn and practice your instrument. Learn (practice) to control your vocal dynamics so you don't need compression. Learn your instrument, not the effects. FX are for adding to your sound, not for fixing your flaws. (And for God's sake, if you are anywhere in the rock direction, learn who Lead Belly was.)
Not only are there those 80s thrash metal bands🤓 on insta but there’s these late 60s early 70s hard rock bands that say that they’re bringing it back when all they do is play riffs that sound like it came from led zeppelin, scorpion, vanilla fudge, etc and try their “best” to replicate the fashion by wearing cowboy boots and flares.
There’s a band on insta called Steele crows and as soon as you scroll through their shit, their songs are basically kiss/Led Zeppelin/guns n roses combined and think they started something new. They also do that thing where they also do what the 70s hard rock bands on insta do by replicating the 70s fashion.
To step away from that 70s 80s band revival thing. I’m going in on those insta bands that basically make up their lil scenarios of “oh have u heard this band? Go ahead and listen ! What do u think?!” Usually I be seeing a bunch of socal bands on insta that does this kind of thing and also make up posts like “pov: you tell your friends you known this band before they became famous” which is their way of marketing themselves
Ok, and how to you propose we put a stop to it? Shame and make fun of them and throw those stupid ass nerd emojis at them? Somehow I don't think that'll work.
I quit being in bands full-time (eventually completely) over shit like this being given any level of importance. Thanks for speaking out Uncle Judy. Those plugs who live off bank of Mom & Pop always try to hide it, and usually treat their parents like crap, too. It's so aggravating to see.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I've only seen the bands in the college town and see how everyone's dressed and it didn't take long to put two and two together. Didn't stick around long enough to see how they treat their parents but my friend ran into a girl who played in one of the venues at a mental ward. What experiences do you have with these people?
I absolutely DESPISE the “showing our guitarist/bassist/drummer things he’s never seen before” Like, yeah, we get it, guitar players don’t wear deodorant, drummers sleep in their drum cases, bassists wanna kiss the drummer, WE FUCKING KNOW
@@lukaskrahn6120 yeah bro that shits annoying but like at the same time its refreshing to see a band that actually plays technical shit succeed with the cringe content format.
"I've heard royalty free music, and lofi beats that take more risks than your music" is the most hardcore line ever. Great video.😂😂I hope we all learned something.
It's so weird that SO many music groups or artists have been described (or self-described) as bringing back the 80s sound, but none of them have actually made a song which really sounded like it was made in the 80s except that Don't Believe me Just Watch song.
Uptown Funk was honestly a solid homage to classic dance tracks. Another good example of classic sounds is Carly Rae Jepsen's 'Emotion' album. It's most certainly very modern but it's got a tasteful integration of '80s pop.
@@squirrelsyrup1921 I chalk it up to modern digital production. Sounds too sterile to be from the 80s. Still, some bands nail the production, like Deathhammer.
Bringing back 80s thrash metal, as far as 80s thrash metal was great, has one problem. It is 2024 right now, the social and cultural conditions are different, the people making that music in the 80s were influenced by what had been made up to the 80s and right now it is hard to cut oneself of from music that was made after that and genres that sprung out after that. Even 'subconciously' something that could not have been an influence on 80s thrash because it was made later will still affect the way you are trying to replicate that sound (f.e. you became interested in guitar through grunge and you end up sneaking in some grungey elements into your playing). Besides, what also made 80s thrash so on point was because it was made in the late cold war era and fear of nuclear war was omnipresent in thrash lyrics, because you had people reacting to neoliberal changes in society and figures like Reagan and Thatcher, because these were the times of antidrug campaigns and PMRC madness. Once again- social conditions in which that music was made were different and you cannot distill them into 2024. It's better just to say that you make thrash metal because you like it. Simple as. You want to upkeep the tradition of playing headbangable riffs that overuse the open E string to good effect. That is more honest and reasonable.
Agreed as much as I love the 80s rock and the 80s glam and thrash bands of that time, we really can’t bring it all back unfortunately, just the elements but I will say that rockstars today don’t act like rockstars anymore as they did back then there’s a reason why rock and metal in my opinion thrived heavily in the mainstream particularly 60s-80s: sex, drugs, party music? Where’s all that now? Rap and Hip Hop. Not to say that all of that stuff is necessarily good but rather image has always played a huge role if you wanted to be mainstream. Again this is just my opinion and the way I see it
Yo naci en el año 80 y el tema de la guerra nuclear era un miedo omniprescente, era algo que podia pasar de verdad. Ya el mundo a cambiado mucho, se puede replicar en la actualidad el envoltorio de la musica pero su esencia y contexto no.
@@metalrockstarizer89Neither genre preached good messages to where it outweighed the bad. Metal half the time has bullshit lyrics and rarely does it have lyrics to make you think. Then you see bands like Metallica and Megadeth endorse the opposite messages they rallied against for decades...😂 not exactly a rational approach to convince listeners your words are still worth listening to
Speaking of politics, I do find it weird how out-of-touch political bands and music in general are these days. Seriously, when was the last time that ANY mainstream musician made a grand political statement that didn’t sound like it would’ve become obsolete as soon as Bush Jr. left office?
80's thrash already came back and died again. There were legions of crossover bands in the 2000's/early 2010's trying to squeeze as much juice out of the Municipal Waste/Toxic Holocaust lemon as they could and, wouldn't you know, they're all gone now.
And to add to that, bands like Sepultura, Kreator, the big 4 and the like never fell out of favor with anyone. Everyone from the metal underground still carries an extreme love and affinity for those bands and a lot of those bands still see a lot of streaming/album sales even after they broke up. Thrash was one of the biggest metal exports of the 80's and nobody has forgotten it. They're not bringing anything back, they're larping as some the literal BIGGEST and most popular bands in metal history.
I’m so glad someone’s calling out this bullshit, particularly the “bringing back 80s thrash”. I’m so glad you called out Mourning High. They are so try hard and cringey, which sucks because they can play their instruments really well. Like you said, they are wasting their talents on writing generic, already been done thrash metal. There are too many of the “bringing back *insert genre*” bands who don’t realise they aren’t bringing anything back, and are essentially just glorified tribute bands. Originality in the rock sphere is dying and these instagram bands are playing into that. I immediately refuse to take a a band seriously when they make cringey instagram post and try way too hard to be funny or quirky.
Dude u right I'm glad ppl see thru this behavior but I guess they feel obligated in some way to try to market themselves or get known however it's cringe as heck.
Lol, I straight up left the last band I was in because there media and image became far more important to them than actually writing new and better songs. Excellent video man.
Does anyone remember when Drowning Pool was the "Facebook Band" aka people seemed to share their memes more than their music? Weird how we warped back around to this concept in a different forum.
I think it's hard to get recognized without social media but seriously they need to stop it with the cringe "viral challenge" videos and stick to concert / music announcements, interview questions, concert clips, and shit in that area
Younger generations are conformists, and are really afraid of confrontation, so whatever they write is agreeable. But I don't think they can innovate because even though they're conformists, and have a ego about it like they think they stand out.
Im seeing that the best way to ACTUALLY promote your music, WHILE still in meme format to cater to the masses, is to use YOUR music in the background. Trust me, it works. In fact, if you've been scrolling TH-cam Shorts as of late, you may have accidentally come across what Im talking about without knowing it yourself.
this is so real. The only time I have gotten into any bands through insta reel has been when they play 10-15 seconds of their song paired up with cool visuals or edits from anime/shows.
Don’t forget the artists who constantly compare themselves to other bands. “Oh if you like this band, you are going to like us!” Etc. unfortunately I am guilty of making this mistake with my band. But now I just let the audience make the comparisons, not us.
Exactly! It’s much interesting as a listener guess your influences and make hypothesis about it, not straight throwing it in the face because it’s like “I will listen to the OGs instead of your band then”
you brought up something that makes me cringe on instagram so much, so many bands trying so hard to be good at the marketing but their music isnt even worth marketing, or theyre so focused on the short reels of trying to play the hardest lick they know but cant write a compelling song let alone full album, putting the carriage before the horse essentially. ive only found like 2 instagram musicians that actually have interesting music i would sit down and listen to a whole album of which is extremely sad
I agree with this but I think it's difficult, they probably feel like they have to put all this energy into marketing to get a chance to be heard in the first place and get any kind of audience feedback. If they didn't market at all and waited until they have better material, they'd just be releasing music into a void and not getting any feedback/possible fans, and for all we know, next they might release their could-be-hit-song and nobody would be following them to see it if they didn't promote their less compelling beginner level stuff- it's easy for artists to get lost in the marketing thing unintentionally just because they want a fair go at being heard. I think that's the problem, when you focus on marketing you look hella egotistical like you must think you're the best thing since sliced bread, but if you completely forgo marketing and the 15 second attention-grabbing clips; you're not going to have a chance to be heard at all online even if you ARE the best thing since sliced bread lol
I've found multiple bands that act like an overconfident ass when they've only got one single they put out a year ago. Like cant even find a video of them live lmao
I feel like most miss the point of making music, if you’re making music for money as if you’re life depends on it you’re missing the creativity and passion that goes into making music. I realize almost every person has felt like being like “we’re bringing FORGOTTEN GENRE back” it doesn’t really work like that you are making music for the sake of bringing something back, it’s cool to use the techniques and methods of older music but for the sake of “bringing” it back you’re lacking the passion and dedication
If women didn’t exist literally 85% of these bands wouldn’t exist. Trust me I’ve played in these bands before. They aren’t there to make music, they’re really desperate…
We cut the cringey videos and interactions before we put out our first single. We didnt want to be lumped in with these social media clout chasers anymore. Now our focus is 90% on music and like 10% on promotional content. And even then its just live video
I don't think "making content" as an artist is inherently bad if you do it genuinely and it does connect with your audience - I like seeing clips of bands i like joking around, little tour videos and stuff like that - but when it seems to be more of a content house then a band I'm OUT!
This is why I just make my own music at home, for me. I don’t have the time or patience to be in a band again, and definitely don’t have it for managing a social media presence. There’s absolutely zero money in music nowadays, unless you do all the right things and the stars align. Better chances of winning the lottery honestly. My honest advice is to put your focus on first acquiring a solid and well paying day job, and then creating the music you want to hear. Put your heart in to it, don’t worry about making money with it, because you won’t.
It’s really hard honestly these days. There’s so many rock and metal bands out there. The problem with the community is that there is so much elitism in every sub genre that it doesn’t give space for new artists. Some bands don’t wanna “sell out” but yet complain about not being “mainstream” and then some bands that make it “mainstream” are now “sell outs.” It’s a sad reality unfortunately
One social media band phenomenon I hate are these melodic death metal bands ripping off Children of Bodom. I love Children of Bodom, but these copy bands are so humiliatingly cringe. And also these bands whose social media image seems far more important than making music.
For me, Anthrax's instrumentals are good, but there vocalist is a turn off for me. Not saying hes bad or untalented. Just that i just dont care for it. S.O.D is a good example of what Anthrax could have been
Don't wanna assume, but considering how many people don't like or even hate Anthrax, and want to boost Exodus, Testament, Overkill or Death Angel (all good thrash bands) onto the Big 4 and boot Anthrax out. I feel that maybe it's because Anthrax is more their own sound but people want to make out Anthrax as formerly a thrash metal band when in retrospective, they kinda weren't or were not just that. Also, the fact that people really can't stand much change in the metal formula despite what they say, and Anthrax being more punk influenced along with being way less serious, thus being too different, people in the thrash community therefore, right them off. Overall, to me there isn't a band or a sound quite like Anthrax and I think they are the answer to when I want to show someone outside of metal, a band that couldn't sound less the same to other bands in the genre. They are different and more definable in comparison to most others honestly.
Anthrax doesn't suck in the sense that they aren't talented or whatever. Anthrax sucks in the sense that I couldn't tell you the last time I willingly listened to Anthrax. If Anthrax came and played a gig in my back yard I'd probably listen to a few songs (let's be honest, half of one) and then go inside to fold laundry or something. I c'mon, it's been like 40 years and they haven't managed to write a song that's more remarkable than Ian's Manic Panic beard.
@@RobExNihilo They are a bit punkier and didn't really play the "let's be heavier than everyone else" game that nearly every other band was doing. I think they're a bit underrated, but I'm not crazy for anything after Among the Living.
Nah I'm totally behind this new revival of 80's thrash metal. If we're going to bring back the Cold War then at the very least we should get some new quality thrash bands, with album covers of a city engulfed by a mushroom cloud, while a horde of melted and twisted mutants are chasing down a politician in a suit in the foreground.
@@sevenchambers oh yeah absolutely it's corny, so are 80's action movies with cheesy one-liners. I make no apologies for liking things that are corny though.
I am in a 2-man black metal project, called Katathlepsis (it means depression when written in Greek, "Κατάθλιψις"). We've done zero promotion, zero trends, zero anything. We solely rely on our music being good and bringing something new to the genre. Are we big or known? Definitely not. But we're having fun during the process and we're proud of the result. Slowly writing the first LP after our demo, and it's looking promising. We're also about to get signed on a record label. I think we'll probably be able to do something with this project one day. We're not expecting to make money out of it. So far out of tapes sales we've made nothing. Fuck trends, fuck social media and fuck "bringing back 80's thrash". Hails, Άβυσσος.
I thought this was gonna be another one of those "I'm a manager and I got the secrets to the algorithm blah blah" bullshit videos but there's a lot of good info here! Good job!
Great vid. Been having people tell me for a little bit now that I have the musical skill and that all i’m missing is that I should post these types of reels/tik toks to gain followers and traction. But as you said, its about the music, and if the music isn’t good enough in the first place, no amount of views will help you in the long run.
Checked out broken drumstick just to see if they were decent. Watched 3 adds just the shut it all 28 seconds in cause it felt like my ears would melt off if i didnt.
A huge problem with a lot of these bands is that they want to get spotlight. I want to start my own band called Ash Mountain and get famous so I can get sponsors and buy a shit ton of guitars. Here’s the harsh truth, I’m probably going to start Ash Mountain while I’m in the Air Force, do covers, gigs, improve my skills, and move on. By moving on, I mean leaving the band and taking the skills I acquired to audition for artists like Tobias Sammet, Paul Di’Anno, and Blaze Bayley. So basically, throwing away band dreams and swallowing my pride in order to actually make some sort of career as a musician. Of course, I will get dumbed down to “Oh yea, he’s the guitarist for (Insert Artist).” But I’ll be able to make a career out of guitar and enjoy what I love. Only difference is that while guys like Rhoads, Wydle, Gers, and Gus G were originally those kinds of players, they are apart of the few minority who actually break from the usual fill in or audition guitarist.
fuck YES to everything here. Feels good to have my feelings externalized because it makes me feel like I'm not the only one. We AREN'T CRAZY. MAKE GOOD MUSIC.
I was in a band, we posted primarily on tiktok but had an instagram. All we'd post was covers and only released one song (which they released an instrumental version when they kicked me out) which you can't access anymore since they took it down to rebrand themselves. We rebranded ourselves quite a few times. We started out as Ignorance Is Bliss, then they kicked me out and made Sink, then I came back for a bit under the name Caroline Place, which they've stuck with even while I'm out of the band. Without a singer, they "plan" on doing instrumental stuff. I've been out of the band for nearly 3 months now. And they haven't released or promoted their band AT ALL besides 2 posts saying "this is the band" and "music coming soon" and the posts were made nearly w months ago if I remember correctly. And all the members do on their personal accounts is promote a band that has NOTHING going on AT ALL.
A lot of the Instagram bands I see have an account going for like 5 years but it's always only ever 1 or 2 songs the entier time. Or just like parts of a song but never seem to ever show a finished product.
Not that you're wrong but "let me tell you why thing X that's trending on Y is stupid in a funny sarcastic way with liberal use of zoom effects and memes flashing on screen" videos on youtube isn't very original either
This is what im scared of. Im 14 years old, and im in a punk band. We arent that huge at all, and im afraid of these bands making any new punk/metal music look bad, so nobodys gonna check us out. (Our band is not an instagram band)
This actually caused me to check out Mourning High, the stereotypical “we’re bringing back thrash” band. Their most popular song, Vendetta, is just a very straightforward two minutes thrash track. Their single, Charlemagne, however pleasantly surprised me. While it displays all the little tropes (especially a harmonized riff near the end) and the occasional self-indulgence with repeated measures (AJFA repetition), the track was actually unpredictable and a joy to listen to. The main riff was different enough where it was able to interact with the rhythm section differently. The one thing that impressed me was that they have the aesthetic down 100% when it comes to the cover art for both their singles and album. Looks vintage, stylized appropriately (especially Charlemagne). If they shirked the “bring back thrash” bit and aimed to distinguish themselves more, they could make a name for themselves (or at least a small profitable niche)
I had a band ad pop up in my IG recommendations and it was the same thing as "We're bringing back....." except in this case it was 70's style classic rock or southern rock et al. They checked a lot of boxes as to the type of things I follow or like on IG. They had the hair and clothes and stage moves of an old 70's southern rock band and they played vintage guitars and everything, but they were all young guys and have a ton of energy. They used tag lines like "You think guitar solos are out in 2024? Watch this!" Or "Who says real Rock & Roll is dead?" I got to admit, they look like they might put on a good show! So I sought out their music and found a playlist (for free of course) and song 1 was actually pretty good and I thought it was a good start- what else do you have? Song 2 was....alright. Song 3 was, well it was okay.... And it went on like that. Turns out the pretty good first song that piqued my interest was far and away the best song on the album and everything else was filler material that was okay at best and really bland and redundant at worst.
You strike me as the type of person who gets angry at the fact that every single rv looks exactly the same and every drug commercial looks exactly the same. Maybe it's just me tho
Every generation has an "I'm bringing 80s thrash back" guy. I was that back in high school.
Its an early metalhead phase, we all go and went through it, especially if you’re a musician
... Guilty. I kept the hair. What ya gonna do?
@@matturner6890 I'm trying my best to keep my hair lol!
@@nuggetstew4380 Yeah I had my teenage thrash band. We actually were pretty good. Still love thrash.
Lmao! Same here. Mid to late 2000’s edition of that guy right here
This is 1000% actual and factual. The worst part is they believe being cutesy and quirky will attract fans. Basically every band on Instagram is a manic pixie dream girl.
Hahahha too real 😂
Or an f-boy with some grunge or emo twist. Its always the ripped baggy jeans that are actually $300(their parents bought their $2000+ band equipment).
Alt bands thinking they’re quirky and unique when their genre’s bands have tens of millions of monthly listeners (Mizrahi artists have at most 100k)
GUESS WHO'S OUR REAL GUITARIST
it's MySpace all over again
Being a young band in the modern day seems both way easier and way harder than it was in the pre social media times.
Its easier because a focusrite and amp sims cost like 200 bucks. Its harder because there's so many of you that nobody will notice even if you kinds stand out. And don't get me started on how nobody notices you if you're not an EU or US band.
@@ileutur6863 Blame that last one on people the cultures of the people who aren't from the EU or US
@ileutur6863 it's not too hard to stand out. Don't use pentatonic minor and actually play at a high level. Idk if it's because I'm from Utah but 95 percent of the metal musician community for my state is intermediate at best, and a good drummer is fantasy.
@@ileutur6863This is always a reality. I'm from South America but lived in the US in my formative years, it wasn't easy because the styles of metal and experimentation I had in mind were bigger in Europe, but at least there was a remote possibility. Unfortunately, due to visa expiring and being unable to do anything or become an ilegal immigrant, I had to go back to my country in my early 20's and gave up all hope. Made some music here and there to fulfill myself, but it's almost impossible to get noticed if you're from here (and I'm not even in Brazil at least), even if you sing in English. I would have to otherwise be a bitch to the only couple of mediocre music genres that have a remote possibility of making it here and I don't like them, just like I don't like being forced into making music in my native language which to me isn't so great for music.
@@preston2636Playing at a higj level is not exactly easy for everyone, time, dedication, skill, motivation, and then all the possible issues that can arise in someone's life, even in youth.
If Lich King and Havok couldn't bring 80s thrash back you're sure as hell not gonna
Im a die hard havok fanboy and will cherish their efforts forever
That’s what was thinking
Same even though I love Power Trip
Havok and Power Trip rule
Idk thrash never left here in Cali lol
"Make something that people fucking cry to" is such a good quote. Legit we're supposed to be in this music thing to make people's hearts bleed. Not to go viral.
Yeah, art and true "fufillment". These are the same type of people that say music/metal is "entertainment" or "just music". I think people that think like that should just be going 9-5 to an office (not that that's wrong, I've done it) and shut up.
Supposedly when Roger Waters’ wife listened to DSOTM for the first time she cried and that was when he knew they had a winner
It's a pretty bad quote to me, it's just suggesting that going for an emotional song/style instead of a fun one will always work. As if there wasn't a ton of sappy and melodramatic music reels trying to get attention in a similar fashion, but going for the "let's make the X-Factor judges cry" vibe. There's so much complexity to be explored in the discourse around what makes music good and this guy just oversimplifies it to "make something emotional, make something that stands out". There are different audiences for different niches, and there is definitively one for the quirky kind of instagram music just as there is an audience for death metal without fans crying to a Cannibal Corpse song. Not all good music is emotional and not all music should be emotional. It's a pretty low effort video, so no hate, but if one really tried to apply this suggestion I imagine having your feed invaded by artists trying their hardest to make you cry wouldn't be better. It takes a special kind of artist to create meaningful and genuine emotional music, and if you aren't that type of person, then just make the music that defines you better instead of trying to be someone else
@@ecklynnyou're thinking way too hard. It's a single-sentence quote, which makes its point succinctly
All it means is "art is about emotion, not popularity". That's literally all
@@NeilPundickThis is why sleep token is successful. There's genuine care put into the music.
The trend of bands focusing more on their meme reels for insta and tiktok instead of focusing on the music needs to stop.
*laughs in MTV*
This has happened forever
Sad part is the strat works
Nxcre moment. I liked him but overtime it just became old
I think the problem is these bands just want to be famous not actually put out meaningful music
I mean isn’t that the whole point of being a “rockstar” nowadays? It’s always been like that. Honestly I don’t know what else to say about the rock and metal community nowadays lmao elitism runs everywhere
@@metalrockstarizer89 What so because a song is louder and harsher than kpop or some shit it HAS to be just for attention and cannot have actual soul or meaning in it?
What a weak mentality. Guess Iron Maiden, Slayer and I dunno 80% of metal just exists to make money and not to speak out to anyone or be interesting to listen to.
@@Haispawner it’s not a weak mentality it’s the truth. Rockstars today do not act like rockstars anymore. Who are the new rockstars? Rappers. They got money, girls, cars, fame, clout everything. Like Kanye and Gene Simmons said. Rappers are the new rockstars. And this is the problem with the rock and metal community at the moment, everyone’s fighting whether to be mainstream or not mainstream.
Well whats the point with put out music but nobody listen, at least with popularity some portion of the audience might be interested to check out their music...
Exactly
It’s the Greta van fleet effect; “hey let’s bring x band’s style back but instead of trying to emulate let’s just imitate”
Literally, my buddy in college is this template. He started a Greta inspired Instagram band and dresses like he's Jimmy Page.
@@richpryor9650jimmy page is a pedo
@@richpryor9650 tell him he is a goofy ahh cornball 💀💀💀
Am I still allowed to like Greta Van fleet, damn.
@@DeanoBrooks8no angey 😡
Every decade there’s an 80’s thrash revival wave with bands that all sound the same. Gotta give the scene credit though, it’s a sound and formula that never truly goes out of style.
@@GrantH yeah I'll grant you that it all sounds the same. But imho "modern metal" has sounded pretty much exactly the same since 2007.
If a metal genre is going to sound exactly the same for decades on end, then at the very least it can be like "'member the 80's, 'member Mr. T and and Knight Rider?"
For the sole benefit of forty something metalheads like me. This is the way
Just give me one that gives me the same feels as any actual 80s thrash band does, and I'm there
@@mountkarate-nunchuckaif you want more venomy-motorhead-tank sound, check us out. Were called Interceptor
Yeah cause Municipal Waste and Schizophrenia sound exactly the same
@@mountkarate-nunchucka do you like blackened thrash by any chance?
Making good music is absolutely huge but also actually networking and being involved in whatever local music scene in your area is also massive. Selling out a 200 cap room in your hometown is infinitely more valuable than having 20k ig followers
Or just have both instead
plaster this on the door to every venue in town (house, bar, small/medium/large). community is real, social media numbers are not
broken drumstick is from my local scene, much worse in person somehow
Same. When my drummer broke the new drumsticks, they were just wood
yikes. let's see your amazing band. i looked them up after this video and they're actually sick?? why are they bad? because theyre young? because theyre women? why? like give me an actual reason that isn't just "they suck". you can't because there isn't one. Please consider building those up in your local scene instead of tearing them down.
@@dovemaarika1668 broken drumstick alt account
@@dovemaarika1668 idk maybe on a casual youtube comment u dont have to write a 48 paragraph review on a band you wont remember existed after this video
@@goldenfurniture123 you know who definitely won't forget though? is the bands featured in the video. something really doesn't sit right with me about this grown adult man making content hating on kids for trying to do something positive and enjoy themselves? The bands are all either minors or extremely young, and if this guy actually cares about the future of the music scene he should actually encourage them and give constructive feedback in a kind way instead of bully them for views. I ask you how you would feel if it was your band in the video and he just kept on going on about how boring and annoying you are when he doesn't even know you? when he's an adult? when he's making money on bullying you? weird. In the future please consider being a force of positivity and inspiration for others it will do amazing things for you and them. have a nice day and good luck with your endeavors
so glad you talked about mourning high, I'm so tired of seeing them on instagram
i actually like them tho
@@loganfrench7582No you dont
They seem like they could be a good tribute band but the shorts or instagram reels or whatever are just nothing to be enjoyed
I love them, great music. (some of the reels are a lil corny tho)
Nice pfp
Uncle Judy, I'm still waiting for you to fight all the youtube musicians
Rick Beato battle is going to be legendary
I wanna see Rudy VS Judy😂
@@maxs.3238 same
@@miras-nurtazin he needs to livestream it
Except for rabea because he’s actually cool lol
This was actually probably the most motivating video I’ve ever seen as a musician
Honestly same
Si totalmente.
definitely! I feel like as a musician trying to “make it” these days, seeing all these bands get loads of followers off viral memes makes you think YOU have to be doing that too. feels relieving to know that embarrassing yourself online doesn’t actually translate into fans
Finally! Someone who could verbalize my thoughts about these bands. I hated seeing so many Instagram reels saying, "Do you like deftones? Slowdive? Alice in chains? You should check out our bands" - and it's the most generic stock music songs you can find online. I've seen dudes who make generic nu metal songs that are royalty free that go way harder than what these bands are pushing out
Si, esas bandas son las más patéticas.
The amount of times I've seen people invoke the name of Deftones and then just post a generic shoegaze song likely written in 20 minutes is hilarious. Genuinely feel many of these bands aren't even music fans.
Sundazer is an awesome exception
"stock music" is the perfect way to describe these generic copy bands
“Basic Megadeth And Slayer” ai prompt music
Yeah, but you don't talk about one important thing - these crappy videos are getting these bands actual attention, even if there's no substance to them. My band had a breakout 1st album that was well received within our subgenre, got us attention from a few labels and opening slots for touring bands, but our posts on instagram never went over 100 views because we just post regular concert footage and promptions instead of meme content.
People at least stop to cringe at these bands, but no one to even look at original music
You hit the nail on the head exactly. One of the most important things that this guy doesn't address in this video is that most of these bands do these cringe videos because THEY HAVE TO. The music industry has evolved to a point where making good music simply isn't enough to get your band going places anymore, you either have to be known within a local scene or get famous on social media (like the bands in these videos) What's the name of your band btw, I'd love to check out your music
Pass your band, I wanna ear a bit.
This guy will not drop his band, because he knows they are bad
No offense but this sound kinda fake
The big thing that a lot of bands with a strong online presence dont understand is that their viral hungry marketing tactics VERY rarely result in an actual core fanbase
This is what happens when everything is so algorithm and engagement driven, bands stop being musicians and start becoming "content creators". If you want the state of music to improve, it has to be done from the ground up. Support local/independent artists by going to shows and buy their merch and CDs. Fuck your spotify streams and instagram likes. That era is coming to an end. Time to bring back the old ways.
We started as a content band now were a music band 😂
I would buy CDs from local bands but
1) there's just like 1 band in my little city and it doesn't have any CD out (if I remember correctly).
2) I don't have money + it's expensive for me (Argentina lmao).
But I can understand your argument. Cheers.
sorry but this era is not going to end anytime soon
i agree except cds and old ways, streaming is here to stay
Let me be a grumpy old fart and suggest that musicians practice their instrument. A pedal board is not your instrument. Your guitar is your instrument. Don't learn what settings make you sound like Metallica, practice so you can play like Brownie McGhee. Learn and practice your instrument. Learn (practice) to control your vocal dynamics so you don't need compression. Learn your instrument, not the effects. FX are for adding to your sound, not for fixing your flaws.
(And for God's sake, if you are anywhere in the rock direction, learn who Lead Belly was.)
Not only are there those 80s thrash metal bands🤓 on insta but there’s these late 60s early 70s hard rock bands that say that they’re bringing it back when all they do is play riffs that sound like it came from led zeppelin, scorpion, vanilla fudge, etc and try their “best” to replicate the fashion by wearing cowboy boots and flares.
There’s a band on insta called Steele crows and as soon as you scroll through their shit, their songs are basically kiss/Led Zeppelin/guns n roses combined and think they started something new. They also do that thing where they also do what the 70s hard rock bands on insta do by replicating the 70s fashion.
To step away from that 70s 80s band revival thing. I’m going in on those insta bands that basically make up their lil scenarios of “oh have u heard this band? Go ahead and listen ! What do u think?!” Usually I be seeing a bunch of socal bands on insta that does this kind of thing and also make up posts like “pov: you tell your friends you known this band before they became famous” which is their way of marketing themselves
Ok, and how to you propose we put a stop to it? Shame and make fun of them and throw those stupid ass nerd emojis at them? Somehow I don't think that'll work.
and don't get me started on the "grunge" that somehow get to still look fake as shit
@@xXxzAAa0aAAzxXx not just grunge dude, even punk when all they are is posers
We're past Uncle Judy's "You're gonna go far kid" era and into the "Just quit the gimmicks and make some fucking music with soul" era
1:17 Licking a Zyn straight from the tin is diabolical work
I quit being in bands full-time (eventually completely) over shit like this being given any level of importance. Thanks for speaking out Uncle Judy.
Those plugs who live off bank of Mom & Pop always try to hide it, and usually treat their parents like crap, too. It's so aggravating to see.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I've only seen the bands in the college town and see how everyone's dressed and it didn't take long to put two and two together. Didn't stick around long enough to see how they treat their parents but my friend ran into a girl who played in one of the venues at a mental ward.
What experiences do you have with these people?
I absolutely DESPISE the “showing our guitarist/bassist/drummer things he’s never seen before”
Like, yeah, we get it, guitar players don’t wear deodorant, drummers sleep in their drum cases, bassists wanna kiss the drummer, WE FUCKING KNOW
you forgot the singer who keeps creepily looking at underage girls that come to their shows
There's this one guy I kept seeing just kept posting Polyphia riffs and listing influences that aren't present at all. Like it's so annoying.
I hate when that happens, like just tell us whats real, you dont have to make up stuff for clout, no one cares.
Nice pfp btw.
You talking about that band Gingsu?
@@quinatakara650 Yep.
@@lukaskrahn6120 yeah bro that shits annoying but like at the same time its refreshing to see a band that actually plays technical shit succeed with the cringe content format.
Yk what's not annoying though? Seeing some dude on yt with an Emperor of Sand pfp. Love that album; you're a cool dude
Have a nice day :3
"I've heard royalty free music, and lofi beats that take more risks than your music" is the most hardcore line ever. Great video.😂😂I hope we all learned something.
It's so weird that SO many music groups or artists have been described (or self-described) as bringing back the 80s sound, but none of them have actually made a song which really sounded like it was made in the 80s except that Don't Believe me Just Watch song.
Uptown Funk was honestly a solid homage to classic dance tracks. Another good example of classic sounds is Carly Rae Jepsen's 'Emotion' album. It's most certainly very modern but it's got a tasteful integration of '80s pop.
@@squirrelsyrup1921 I chalk it up to modern digital production. Sounds too sterile to be from the 80s. Still, some bands nail the production, like Deathhammer.
U right there
@@Trifixion22I want the crusty 2000s death metal production back
5:36 kid's got the Mustaine bangs dialed in, I'll give him that
And the silver Jackson V like Mustaine had in the 90s
Bringing back 80s thrash metal, as far as 80s thrash metal was great, has one problem. It is 2024 right now, the social and cultural conditions are different, the people making that music in the 80s were influenced by what had been made up to the 80s and right now it is hard to cut oneself of from music that was made after that and genres that sprung out after that. Even 'subconciously' something that could not have been an influence on 80s thrash because it was made later will still affect the way you are trying to replicate that sound (f.e. you became interested in guitar through grunge and you end up sneaking in some grungey elements into your playing).
Besides, what also made 80s thrash so on point was because it was made in the late cold war era and fear of nuclear war was omnipresent in thrash lyrics, because you had people reacting to neoliberal changes in society and figures like Reagan and Thatcher, because these were the times of antidrug campaigns and PMRC madness. Once again- social conditions in which that music was made were different and you cannot distill them into 2024.
It's better just to say that you make thrash metal because you like it. Simple as. You want to upkeep the tradition of playing headbangable riffs that overuse the open E string to good effect. That is more honest and reasonable.
Agreed as much as I love the 80s rock and the 80s glam and thrash bands of that time, we really can’t bring it all back unfortunately, just the elements but I will say that rockstars today don’t act like rockstars anymore as they did back then there’s a reason why rock and metal in my opinion thrived heavily in the mainstream particularly 60s-80s: sex, drugs, party music? Where’s all that now? Rap and Hip Hop. Not to say that all of that stuff is necessarily good but rather image has always played a huge role if you wanted to be mainstream. Again this is just my opinion and the way I see it
Yo naci en el año 80 y el tema de la guerra nuclear era un miedo omniprescente, era algo que podia pasar de verdad. Ya el mundo a cambiado mucho, se puede replicar en la actualidad el envoltorio de la musica pero su esencia y contexto no.
@@metalrockstarizer89Neither genre preached good messages to where it outweighed the bad. Metal half the time has bullshit lyrics and rarely does it have lyrics to make you think. Then you see bands like Metallica and Megadeth endorse the opposite messages they rallied against for decades...😂 not exactly a rational approach to convince listeners your words are still worth listening to
Well said
Speaking of politics, I do find it weird how out-of-touch political bands and music in general are these days. Seriously, when was the last time that ANY mainstream musician made a grand political statement that didn’t sound like it would’ve become obsolete as soon as Bush Jr. left office?
80's thrash already came back and died again. There were legions of crossover bands in the 2000's/early 2010's trying to squeeze as much juice out of the Municipal Waste/Toxic Holocaust lemon as they could and, wouldn't you know, they're all gone now.
And to add to that, bands like Sepultura, Kreator, the big 4 and the like never fell out of favor with anyone. Everyone from the metal underground still carries an extreme love and affinity for those bands and a lot of those bands still see a lot of streaming/album sales even after they broke up. Thrash was one of the biggest metal exports of the 80's and nobody has forgotten it. They're not bringing anything back, they're larping as some the literal BIGGEST and most popular bands in metal history.
There is still Havok, and when have they ever headlined shit. They're going on tour to support Exodus, and that's the most success they'll find
I’m so glad someone’s calling out this bullshit, particularly the “bringing back 80s thrash”. I’m so glad you called out Mourning High. They are so try hard and cringey, which sucks because they can play their instruments really well. Like you said, they are wasting their talents on writing generic, already been done thrash metal. There are too many of the “bringing back *insert genre*” bands who don’t realise they aren’t bringing anything back, and are essentially just glorified tribute bands. Originality in the rock sphere is dying and these instagram bands are playing into that. I immediately refuse to take a a band seriously when they make cringey instagram post and try way too hard to be funny or quirky.
Dude u right I'm glad ppl see thru this behavior but I guess they feel obligated in some way to try to market themselves or get known however it's cringe as heck.
Their music is a form of gaslighting me into believing that people just want to fed garbage
Lol, I straight up left the last band I was in because there media and image became far more important to them than actually writing new and better songs. Excellent video man.
Does anyone remember when Drowning Pool was the "Facebook Band" aka people seemed to share their memes more than their music? Weird how we warped back around to this concept in a different forum.
Literally can't think of a single Drowning Pool song other than "Bodies"
Saying what we’re all thinking out loud, thank you.
I think it's hard to get recognized without social media but seriously they need to stop it with the cringe "viral challenge" videos and stick to concert / music announcements, interview questions, concert clips, and shit in that area
I agree, just like the tiktok shoegaze scene, everything sounds the same. The riff, how it opens. Copy of a copy
Younger generations are conformists, and are really afraid of confrontation, so whatever they write is agreeable. But I don't think they can innovate because even though they're conformists, and have a ego about it like they think they stand out.
not the mustaine/hetfield impersonators
Im seeing that the best way to ACTUALLY promote your music, WHILE still in meme format to cater to the masses, is to use YOUR music in the background. Trust me, it works.
In fact, if you've been scrolling TH-cam Shorts as of late, you may have accidentally come across what Im talking about without knowing it yourself.
Sorry Ghost?
“Lord, FORGIVE ME, NYAHHHH”
@@jmac356 It worked for ghost,(although not on purpose, their PR didnt make the videos themselves) theres other bands doing the same and it works.
I always scroll through the usual "This goes out to all the metalheads..." then a generic question about a fav sub genre band.
this is so real. The only time I have gotten into any bands through insta reel has been when they play 10-15 seconds of their song paired up with cool visuals or edits from anime/shows.
Don’t forget the artists who constantly compare themselves to other bands. “Oh if you like this band, you are going to like us!” Etc. unfortunately I am guilty of making this mistake with my band. But now I just let the audience make the comparisons, not us.
Exactly! It’s much interesting as a listener guess your influences and make hypothesis about it, not straight throwing it in the face because it’s like “I will listen to the OGs instead of your band then”
I have a theory that one of the worst things for a young band’s career is being marketed as “the next [older band that was better]”.
you brought up something that makes me cringe on instagram so much, so many bands trying so hard to be good at the marketing but their music isnt even worth marketing, or theyre so focused on the short reels of trying to play the hardest lick they know but cant write a compelling song let alone full album, putting the carriage before the horse essentially.
ive only found like 2 instagram musicians that actually have interesting music i would sit down and listen to a whole album of which is extremely sad
I agree with this but I think it's difficult, they probably feel like they have to put all this energy into marketing to get a chance to be heard in the first place and get any kind of audience feedback. If they didn't market at all and waited until they have better material, they'd just be releasing music into a void and not getting any feedback/possible fans, and for all we know, next they might release their could-be-hit-song and nobody would be following them to see it if they didn't promote their less compelling beginner level stuff- it's easy for artists to get lost in the marketing thing unintentionally just because they want a fair go at being heard.
I think that's the problem, when you focus on marketing you look hella egotistical like you must think you're the best thing since sliced bread, but if you completely forgo marketing and the 15 second attention-grabbing clips; you're not going to have a chance to be heard at all online even if you ARE the best thing since sliced bread lol
I've found multiple bands that act like an overconfident ass when they've only got one single they put out a year ago. Like cant even find a video of them live lmao
“The problem with the underground these days, nobody kills any posers anymore…”
-Paul Baloff
Broken Drumstick gotta be the worst fucking band name of all time
It’s sounds like the evil band in a children’s movie about music
There’s gotta be a middle ground of good music and good instagram marketing videos.
Ex. Magnolia Park
I feel like most miss the point of making music, if you’re making music for money as if you’re life depends on it you’re missing the creativity and passion that goes into making music.
I realize almost every person has felt like being like “we’re bringing FORGOTTEN GENRE back” it doesn’t really work like that you are making music for the sake of bringing something back, it’s cool to use the techniques and methods of older music but for the sake of “bringing” it back you’re lacking the passion and dedication
If women didn’t exist literally 85% of these bands wouldn’t exist. Trust me I’ve played in these bands before. They aren’t there to make music, they’re really desperate…
None of these guys are even attractive though, who would want them??
We cut the cringey videos and interactions before we put out our first single. We didnt want to be lumped in with these social media clout chasers anymore. Now our focus is 90% on music and like 10% on promotional content. And even then its just live video
YOOOOO IT'S FKING INTERCEPTOR
Y'ALL ARE MY FAVORITE MODERN BAND
I don't think "making content" as an artist is inherently bad if you do it genuinely and it does connect with your audience - I like seeing clips of bands i like joking around, little tour videos and stuff like that - but when it seems to be more of a content house then a band I'm OUT!
This is why I just make my own music at home, for me.
I don’t have the time or patience to be in a band again, and definitely don’t have it for managing a social media presence.
There’s absolutely zero money in music nowadays, unless you do all the right things and the stars align. Better chances of winning the lottery honestly.
My honest advice is to put your focus on first acquiring a solid and well paying day job, and then creating the music you want to hear. Put your heart in to it, don’t worry about making money with it, because you won’t.
YES! GOOD MUSIC! NO "NEW SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXISTS"! NO "BACK IN MY DAYS"! NO! JUST GOOD MUSIC! CAN YOU FFFING DO IT???
It’s really hard honestly these days. There’s so many rock and metal bands out there. The problem with the community is that there is so much elitism in every sub genre that it doesn’t give space for new artists. Some bands don’t wanna “sell out” but yet complain about not being “mainstream” and then some bands that make it “mainstream” are now “sell outs.” It’s a sad reality unfortunately
@@metalrockstarizer89 not "these days", it was always hard, since the beginning
I love those manager videos, too bad their views aren't as consistent as the other videos
TH-cam actually recommended me this one for a change though maybe thats the reason yknow
One social media band phenomenon I hate are these melodic death metal bands ripping off Children of Bodom. I love Children of Bodom, but these copy bands are so humiliatingly cringe. And also these bands whose social media image seems far more important than making music.
I was agreeing on everything until you said Anthrax sucks, never cook again‼
For me, Anthrax's instrumentals are good, but there vocalist is a turn off for me. Not saying hes bad or untalented. Just that i just dont care for it. S.O.D is a good example of what Anthrax could have been
Don't wanna assume, but considering how many people don't like or even hate Anthrax, and want to boost Exodus, Testament, Overkill or Death Angel (all good thrash bands) onto the Big 4 and boot Anthrax out. I feel that maybe it's because Anthrax is more their own sound but people want to make out Anthrax as formerly a thrash metal band when in retrospective, they kinda weren't or were not just that. Also, the fact that people really can't stand much change in the metal formula despite what they say, and Anthrax being more punk influenced along with being way less serious, thus being too different, people in the thrash community therefore, right them off. Overall, to me there isn't a band or a sound quite like Anthrax and I think they are the answer to when I want to show someone outside of metal, a band that couldn't sound less the same to other bands in the genre. They are different and more definable in comparison to most others honestly.
@@rageinternet9391man, anyone who thinks anthrax shouldn't be on the big 4 weren't around in the 80s. Anthrax are there for good reason (one album)
@@rageinternet9391 Megasus pfp go hard
Dude clearly never listened to “Spreading The Disease” smh
I don't want to bring back 80s thrash, i just wanna play/make thrash metal
Same man...I just want to thrash
Bingo.
They're definitely not my favourite band, but Anthrax does not suck.
Anthrax doesn't suck in the sense that they aren't talented or whatever. Anthrax sucks in the sense that I couldn't tell you the last time I willingly listened to Anthrax. If Anthrax came and played a gig in my back yard I'd probably listen to a few songs (let's be honest, half of one) and then go inside to fold laundry or something. I c'mon, it's been like 40 years and they haven't managed to write a song that's more remarkable than Ian's Manic Panic beard.
@@RobExNihilo They are a bit punkier and didn't really play the "let's be heavier than everyone else" game that nearly every other band was doing. I think they're a bit underrated, but I'm not crazy for anything after Among the Living.
@@RobExNihilobro has never listened to fistful of metal or spreading the disease
he problably joking, its a common metal joke
Anthrax vocals are bad' mfs on their way to glaze Leeway, Overkill, Exodus, Vio-lence
Nah I'm totally behind this new revival of 80's thrash metal.
If we're going to bring back the Cold War then at the very least we should get some new quality thrash bands, with album covers of a city engulfed by a mushroom cloud, while a horde of melted and twisted mutants are chasing down a politician in a suit in the foreground.
Write that down! Write that down! Write that down!
Corny
@@sevenchambers oh yeah absolutely it's corny, so are 80's action movies with cheesy one-liners.
I make no apologies for liking things that are corny though.
Almost spit my drink when the Exodus cover came out 😆
“I’ve heard royalty free music and lo-fi beats that take more risks than your music”
YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO HURT EM LIKE THAT
I am in a 2-man black metal project, called Katathlepsis (it means depression when written in Greek, "Κατάθλιψις"). We've done zero promotion, zero trends, zero anything. We solely rely on our music being good and bringing something new to the genre. Are we big or known? Definitely not. But we're having fun during the process and we're proud of the result. Slowly writing the first LP after our demo, and it's looking promising. We're also about to get signed on a record label. I think we'll probably be able to do something with this project one day.
We're not expecting to make money out of it. So far out of tapes sales we've made nothing.
Fuck trends, fuck social media and fuck "bringing back 80's thrash".
Hails, Άβυσσος.
I thought this was gonna be another one of those "I'm a manager and I got the secrets to the algorithm blah blah" bullshit videos but there's a lot of good info here! Good job!
Great vid. Been having people tell me for a little bit now that I have the musical skill and that all i’m missing is that I should post these types of reels/tik toks to gain followers and traction. But as you said, its about the music, and if the music isn’t good enough in the first place, no amount of views will help you in the long run.
Checked out broken drumstick just to see if they were decent. Watched 3 adds just the shut it all 28 seconds in cause it felt like my ears would melt off if i didnt.
A huge problem with a lot of these bands is that they want to get spotlight.
I want to start my own band called Ash Mountain and get famous so I can get sponsors and buy a shit ton of guitars.
Here’s the harsh truth, I’m probably going to start Ash Mountain while I’m in the Air Force, do covers, gigs, improve my skills, and move on. By moving on, I mean leaving the band and taking the skills I acquired to audition for artists like Tobias Sammet, Paul Di’Anno, and Blaze Bayley. So basically, throwing away band dreams and swallowing my pride in order to actually make some sort of career as a musician.
Of course, I will get dumbed down to “Oh yea, he’s the guitarist for (Insert Artist).” But I’ll be able to make a career out of guitar and enjoy what I love. Only difference is that while guys like Rhoads, Wydle, Gers, and Gus G were originally those kinds of players, they are apart of the few minority who actually break from the usual fill in or audition guitarist.
"I'm the Hooter's waiter in this situation!"
*Zoom's in on chest*
Beautiful editing, Unc.
YOOOOO LESBIAN SHOUTOUT THANK YOU🐎🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤☄️
fuck YES to everything here. Feels good to have my feelings externalized because it makes me feel like I'm not the only one. We AREN'T CRAZY. MAKE GOOD MUSIC.
Cool vid but you didn't use that Lars Ulrich clip of him saying to James "It sounds stock to my ears, it's fucking stock !" so bye bye
"Guess which one is the drummer!!!!"
Sums up the cringe dude.
this is like an angry pewdiepie going thru his phone
1:45 the trick is to end it the clip with a dominant chord because it always wants to go the the tonic and people don’t like the tension
7:35 Aged well 👌🏻 Especially after her scam
I was in a band, we posted primarily on tiktok but had an instagram. All we'd post was covers and only released one song (which they released an instrumental version when they kicked me out) which you can't access anymore since they took it down to rebrand themselves. We rebranded ourselves quite a few times. We started out as Ignorance Is Bliss, then they kicked me out and made Sink, then I came back for a bit under the name Caroline Place, which they've stuck with even while I'm out of the band. Without a singer, they "plan" on doing instrumental stuff. I've been out of the band for nearly 3 months now. And they haven't released or promoted their band AT ALL besides 2 posts saying "this is the band" and "music coming soon" and the posts were made nearly w months ago if I remember correctly. And all the members do on their personal accounts is promote a band that has NOTHING going on AT ALL.
This channel speaks to me spiritually
A lot of the Instagram bands I see have an account going for like 5 years but it's always only ever 1 or 2 songs the entier time. Or just like parts of a song but never seem to ever show a finished product.
Bob marleys' exodus is rather scrumptious mate
Noticer's club.
Exodus is one of Bob Marley and the Wailers greatest works, I appreciate the pun!
Not that you're wrong but "let me tell you why thing X that's trending on Y is stupid in a funny sarcastic way with liberal use of zoom effects and memes flashing on screen" videos on youtube isn't very original either
I’m so glad someone’s finally talking about this I try ranting to people about and they think I’m crazy
2:37 when Diddy wants to party 💀
This is what im scared of. Im 14 years old, and im in a punk band. We arent that huge at all, and im afraid of these bands making any new punk/metal music look bad, so nobodys gonna check us out. (Our band is not an instagram band)
Whats ur band called??
I really liked that series, it's a shame it didn't keep going.
4:02 my favorite trope is “guess the drummer” and my guess would be none of then
Cant believe my guy said Anthrax sucks tho
They do though. The Amway of metal. Generic. Boring.
@@jessickalush3305'Anthrax vocals are bad' mfs on their way to glaze Leeway, Overkill, Exodus, Vio-lence
Homestyle Dinner Roles is the only band who does Instagram stuff right tbh. Their reels are actually pretty funny and got me into them
I think Phantom (Phantom G.D.L) is a good modern 80s trash band, don’t know if they will be big tho.
Yeah but that’s because they don’t say they are reviving anything, they just do their thing because they like it
This actually caused me to check out Mourning High, the stereotypical “we’re bringing back thrash” band. Their most popular song, Vendetta, is just a very straightforward two minutes thrash track. Their single, Charlemagne, however pleasantly surprised me. While it displays all the little tropes (especially a harmonized riff near the end) and the occasional self-indulgence with repeated measures (AJFA repetition), the track was actually unpredictable and a joy to listen to. The main riff was different enough where it was able to interact with the rhythm section differently.
The one thing that impressed me was that they have the aesthetic down 100% when it comes to the cover art for both their singles and album. Looks vintage, stylized appropriately (especially Charlemagne).
If they shirked the “bring back thrash” bit and aimed to distinguish themselves more, they could make a name for themselves (or at least a small profitable niche)
Based and AJFA pilled
I remember my long hair, black skinny jeans and my white high-tops in my “we’re gonna be like 80s thrash” era
I found your channel through the manager videos lol. Love them
Damn bro your rant after 4:40 is exactly the same shit i've been saying for years now, word for word, guess we are now sharing our single braincell.
I had a band ad pop up in my IG recommendations and it was the same thing as "We're bringing back....." except in this case it was 70's style classic rock or southern rock et al. They checked a lot of boxes as to the type of things I follow or like on IG. They had the hair and clothes and stage moves of an old 70's southern rock band and they played vintage guitars and everything, but they were all young guys and have a ton of energy. They used tag lines like "You think guitar solos are out in 2024? Watch this!" Or "Who says real Rock & Roll is dead?" I got to admit, they look like they might put on a good show! So I sought out their music and found a playlist (for free of course) and song 1 was actually pretty good and I thought it was a good start- what else do you have? Song 2 was....alright. Song 3 was, well it was okay.... And it went on like that. Turns out the pretty good first song that piqued my interest was far and away the best song on the album and everything else was filler material that was okay at best and really bland and redundant at worst.
6:02 I caught that you sneaky man
I’ve wanted to make a rant video about this for years but was too lazy and depressed, so I’m glad others like you feel the same way.
As soon as I saw the Exodus album cover I was like "Wait what the hell?"😂
This video has given me a cathartic emotional release… I wonder if music has this ability
You understand me Judy… I’ve never felt so understood in my life.
I love thrash and heavy metal I’m just glad that bands like mourning high wanna try keep it alive
You strike me as the type of person who gets angry at the fact that every single rv looks exactly the same and every drug commercial looks exactly the same. Maybe it's just me tho
React to Druidess. Its that kind of band that says theyre gonna bring 90s grunge back, but i actually like their songs
yeah they have decent sings
That Bob Marley album goes hard btw
Anything by Bob Marley goes hard
this made me sub, been feeling like this forever