What usually happens when we first develop existential OCD and parts of the recovery mindset to reverse the locked on anxious cycle. #ocdrecovery #ocdawareness
I have never come across a video that described my struggles so well. Does anyone else focus on every single little detail of life such as the fact that we are human and why do we look like this and how is any of it possible etc.? I will find myself getting so freaked out interacting with even my loved ones because I'll be like "what am I looking at right now." It sounds so silly but its so scary 😂
Omfg this is me! I literally think about existential stuff to the point of debilitating fear because I don’t fully comprehend it all so NATURALLY, the understanding is I’m going to die 😭
This video changed everything for me. I had been a huge existential thinker for a long while, not too obsessed per say over the subject, but Id largely delve pretty deep in ideas that used to not scare me. It all changed after a large panic attack that I had when trying to fall asleep… I was thinking about my existence and realized something quite frightening (don’t remember exactly what it was but it was surrounding my part in reality or something in that realm) I went into a derealized state and depersonalized too with all the physical and visual symptoms and fears.. ended up getting to sleep very late.. woke up anxious as well and had another panic attack at school when realizing that everything looked strange (the onset of the DPDR) it’s been two weeks since that night and I learned what I was going through and quickly calmed the anxiety down through accepting my feelings as my bodies “over reaction” to my experience. The visual and physical symptoms quickly diminished, though the physical detachment ones still come but not frequently. However, I became obsessed with existential thinking, as I began to question if I was real or if anything was real at all. I’d Google every thing you could think of from symptoms to articles about consciousness, trying to find answers to my questions. I didn’t realize how obsessive it was becoming till it got to this point, as I have been thinking about my existence almost 24/7 since everything happened. But I’ve come to realize that no one on this earth knows the outcome of death, why we are here, how we are here, or WHAT any of this is. This video was so relatable to me that I laughed at how insane it was. Solipsistic thoughts have been plaguing me as well. But I know that I can’t make order of it.. and I hated that for quite a while till I saw this video and realized that I was looking for that “non existent key to my non existent lock.” I didn’t believe in god before, and I was fine with the uncertainty then. But then my brain latched on to all these ideas and questions with no answers: thus the anxiety. If you’re reading this and struggling…. Know that acceptance will save you. That, and the motivation to persevere. You are not alone, dear solipsistic friends, and you are REAL, dpdr sufferers. and to my existentialists… it’s okay to not know… everything you’ll need to know, you will learn in time. Peace to anyone reading. There is an end to the suffering, and you will come out SO much stronger and happier
@@marial3301 it is still a battle! But my god it has gotten easier in so many ways. And yes, it did cause depression but im prone to depression and have had it most of my life so far.. and yes feeling crazy is completely normal with this because not many people talk about this stuff (our friends and family) and it can feel isolating but oh man let me tell you billions of people have thought these things, we are no where near alone
I recently had this epiphany after watching your videos. I’m currently suffering from existential/solipsism OCD, and I’m just afraid that I might feel disconnected forever and in turn this will make me suffer forever. When I was a small child, I was raised Christian and suffered scrupulosity/blasphemy OCD. If no one is familiar with these it’s when you learn of the unforgivable sin which is blasphemying the Holy Spirit, and you become afraid that God’ll send you to hell forever. I have realized these two OCDs are one in the same! The existential and religious OCD I mean. It’s all eternal suffering OCD! The fear is that I’ll be afraid of suffering forever, forever! If that makes sense.
This is exactly what I’ve been going through for the last month. I had depersonalization and derealization for a number of months and I just started feeling better then read something or heard something about death and now I can’t stop thinking about death and I feel not interested in life because of it. My brain is obsessing over it and I’m afraid I’ll never stop thinking about it and care about life again.
I totally get this. I've had severe OCD most of my life and depersonalization/derealization on and off since 2012. I've only just learned about in-depth and how to fight it in the past year or two. The fear of this feeling is far worse than the feeling itself. Learning to get under the fear of it, and under fear of fear, has been really huge. As Rob says, wear the anxiety like an uncomfortable coat. Live with that uncertainty. Stop trying to figure out if you'll have it the rest of your life. You've gotten through this before and it's nothing new for you, and you'll get through it again.
Thank you for this knowledge. This is pure gold. What you guys are doing with this channel is changing my perspective on OCD in ways that haven’t happened with my therapist. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and past experiences. This has given me new hope based on how hard it was to find anything to relate to what I’ve been dealing with.
I have had this since I was a little kid, it became better for a couple of years because I was able to distract myself from these thoughts, but since a couple of months it started again. I fear, that if I don't think these thoughts I'm living a lie and not living the truth, but if I think about those things I get extremely scared. I mostly fear that I don't know what happens after we die and what if there is nothing.
This really helped me. I’ve been experiencing bad panic attacks and have been depressed like I have never been before for the past 2 weeks. I am scared of death, of going crazy, of not understanding existence, and keep diving into books and trying to meditate trying to find ‘the right feeling’. I didn’t understand this until watching your video, I’m chasing a feeling, and getting bummed out because nothing feels right.
ive had ocd/anxiety disorder for years now but it turned into dpdr and then my dpdr turned into existential ocd. i can feel that im just thoughts inside a body. im almost scared of the fact that i exist and im self aware of my self consciousness. 😭😭 i have constant panic attacks over it now.
@@marial3301 i am a little better. i've slowly tried to learn how to accept my thoughts and let them be there. it's definitely not easy at all and i still struggle a lot.
Wow wow wow! Thank you so much! You literally just made so much sense of what I’ve been dealing with. I almost feel like a wave of clarity has been bestowed upon me! Thank You Thank You! I will continue to practice what you preach! Thanks again so much!
Glad I found this video. I started experiencing this form of OCD after a brief stint in the hospital this past spring, that in hindsight, was a day-long panic attack where my heart-rate was elevated. I was completely convinced it was my covid vaccine (absolutely not anti-vaxx, btw) and potential side effects. Of course they found nothing of note wrong with my health, after dozens of tests. Since then, I completely felt as you described that, "steroid-like lock of anxiety." I was obsessively checking my heart rate by using a pulse-oxi meter. This translated to a fixation about death, as my grandmother died quite young (she was a mother figure to me) unexpectedly in her sleep. I was convinced my elevated heart rate would cause some catastrophic event. Went through a bout of insomnia, ocd tried to "solve" this, fixated on my sleep schedule, etc. Slowly but surely this lessened one big instance at a time. I still struggle form time to time, and I'd say I'm about 60% through the recovery process, and hardly do physical checking compulsions, but the existential component has been the absolute hardest to unlock consistently.
As some who does training for a living I applaud how you present the same central ideas and themes over and over again but in different ways. It really helps since it gives the learner several attempts and different ways to comprehend the information that you are trying to get across. Thank you!
It’s so refreshing to hear this, I honestly didn’t know other people suffered with this as well. I remember around 5 years ago I was in the dentist and out of no where the “what if no one around me exists” thought popped into my head, it absolutely terrified me and so my existential/ solipsism ocd began. I don’t even remember how it left, I just know I got down to only thinking about it once a day (which was great for me). Anyway fast forward 4 years- lockdown in full swing- I’m sitting at home and my brain tells me I’m going to die one day and it’s going to be an abyss of darkness forever and ever. Que, again, the existential ocd..this time mainly focused on death and what happens afterwards. However, this time I also had selfharm/ suicide ocd.. silly because im so scared of death, why would I ever hurt myself? Haha. I’ve been going through this around a year now, but I am feeling gradual improvements In myself! I’ve had a couple therapists but unfortunately I feel like they just don’t get it, they generalised my symptoms and I felt like the treatment they gave me was just based around anxiety and nothing to do with ocd... so I was wandering what ERP techniques would you recommended for existential/ fear of death ocd? Thanks for the videos, you’re helping a lot of people :)
@@beeberry8055 Hello, sorry to hear this, it really sucks. No I didn’t take any medication. I think all I can really say is no matter how scary and real it’s feels right now, the feeling will pass. This type of thing sneaks up on you and when it attacks it feels like it’s gospel and you’ve always felt like it and so it must be the truth, but it’s not! Don’t believe it! Do what you can you keep your self busy, distraction helped me a lot. Also try to not Google/ reassurance seek, that’s what ocd thrives on. I didn’t even realise that I was actually making it worse when I was frantically googling lol. But also don’t hold your feelings in, that won’t help you either, speak to somebody you trust and let them know how you are feeling, I think saying it out loud can alleviate some of the emotions. Also whenever you get the thoughts pop up (whether that be 10 times a day or 1000) stop yourself, take a deep breath, tell yourself this is your OCD talking and it doesn’t mean anything and then continue with what you doing before (takes a bit of practice but really works). I really hope this helps, I promise you the feeling will pass. I’m 100 times better then I was when I originally wrote this comment. Just give it time, and remember there’s so much help out there, you’re not alone. Abbie 🙂
@@abbie3604 sorry, may i ask you something? I experienced existential crisis not a long time ago. I feel better now and not experiencing any panic attacks anymore. But the thought of dead still in my mind most of time. Do you have the same recovering experience? And it's possible to stop thinking about it and live a normal life just like before i experienced existential crisis? Im sorry this is too long but i hope you can answer. Thanks in advance
@@mikechrist9699 may I answer your question?? I went through the same thing. Existential fiasco began when I went through DPDR. Never thought my own existence until then. Now DPDR is gone. But those thoughts/realization will be there. Reason, while unbeknownst to us as humans, we have created a neuro pathway which resulted in remembering that stuff. Now I can say for myself I am able to ignore it now by saying it’s a thought. I dismiss it EVERYTIME. Which will make the brain see there is no value in the thought and will eventually stop bringing it up. It takes practice.
I recently recovered from an intense 1 year bout of DPDR and I had fully recovered but due to some circumstances recently, I had a resurgence of anxiety. For the most part I've been just fine, but I read an article about repressed memories of trauma and I suddenly have began obsessing over the possibility of is there some deep horrific trauma that I don't remember? Is this a form of existential OCD? For background I've had a wonderful life, sure I dealt with bullying and my father being disabled due to a work injury but I never once even considered such a possibility before. I also don't have huge gaps of my memory missing, only the normal haziness of trying to remember middle school when you're almost 30. I'm just afraid that I'm going to convince myself that there was this unknown trauma my family has hidden from me that never existed, which is insane.
Rob I am curious how you feel now that you’ve recovered from this as in do you view things normally again? I have moments where I am doing better and not giving these thoughts as much value, I start feeling more connected again etc. But the thoughts on reality/solipsism are still there and just the absurdity of everything in general. It’s been almost 7 mos for me now and I just don’t want this to be the “best recovery gets” where I can’t stop seeing things for how absurd they are
One thought that really helped me: we don't know, why, for example, a hand doesn't go through a chair. We don't know! Most people probably don't even think about it and now that you read this, do you feel scared by that? Are you panicking? Probably not! Now, if not knowing why your hand can't go through a chair doesn't really bother you, why would you worry about existence, reality, death, conciousness or whatever else?
@@chintudutta5662 yes I did go through this, it was the most difficult thing I've ever experienced. But I'm an optimistic person and started looking for ways to remind me that I'm not alone and this world is indeed very real, and that's when I thought of that.😊
@@beeberry8055 I still have some lower moments, but all I need to calm down are a few reminders, and it's getting less and less frequent, I'm proud to say it's almost completely gone now!
my thoughts started when i smoked marijuana and i tripped very badly. now all i think is that i’m not alive anymore and i can’t feel my reality anymore. it gives me a lot of physical symptoms and mental. i have a major fear of death because of this.
I had the exact same thing happen to me. That’s when it started, I was a freshman in high school, fast forward to today I’m 24 and have lived with this for like 10 years. Talk about exhaustion… it subsided for a few years where I was so distracted by life as I was growing, graduating, starting college, I ended up in a car accident 2019 then Covid 2020 and boom, back to managing this daily like it never left, even worse than the first time around. I pray continually to be healed because I just want my life back. Can barely drive or travel further than 30min from home by myself. I’m sick of it. It’s unbelievable, I hope we all get relief eventually for the long term.
@@Ali-zb9km i’m praying for recovery for the both of us. it’s really hard to go along your day living with it but what helped me was realizing that life was still okay even if life was fake.
I get triggered when I watch an old movie and realize that everyone, including the people, dogs, cats, etc.. who are so alive in the movie are now gone, forever...
Has anyone's feelings or thoughts connected to DP/DR been so strong at any point that you worried/thought you were really going crazy? Or has anyone ever got really depressed because of these horrific feelings/thoughts ?
Yes. Unfortunately I can relate to that. Usually I can snap myself out of a major episode by reminding myself that it will pass like it always has. It is such a struggle but I believe that you can do this!!
I would like to know if someone else possibly shares my fears. I fear my own existence, my death and that of my parents mainly. I dread eternity in any way shape or form as in the afterlife. I feel stuck here because I exist without ever having wanted to. I know everyone is on the same boat but others are okay with this. I feel despair that I was brought into existence and now will be forcefully part of it, death and whatever comes after. That I strongly feel and suspect is am eternal life. I dread all this and there is no way out of it. I see no use in coping or acceptance as it doesnt take away what is, the reality that I exist. I feel in terrible agony all the time. I always suffered with this but the last 10 months have been worst. I cry for hours and scream in terror until my voice goes away, I get the urge to run, rip my clothes, tap the floor, say random things all feeling an intense horror and a knowing I can't escape my faith, my reality. I feel total despair and defeat. I dont eat or sleep. When I sleep it is out of pure exhaustion and even then I wake up screaming. I have other symptoms I display during peak crisis (I dont know how else to call it) these are like right out of an exorcism movie, minus the levitating. Please if anyone else experiences this, let me know. I feel so alone and no one understands me.
Don't feel alone as I have the same fear of eternity. Firstly get to a proper doctor as you might have a related anxiety disorder which need proper help and maybe medication. I need a combination of anti anxiety meds and a degree of OCD therapy to help. I came of my meds last year and am back to square one with my anxiety and thoughts so going through the same pain again, but there is hope as I know when I am better the thoughts don't scare me as much.
Hi Everyone hope you're all safe. I am a recovered of anxiety and depression journey of 5 years in the past. It's been about a year now about existential thoughts. I have the below thoughts and they have put me in a state/ made me a person from where Il never come out of. I have the below thoughts on a constant basis. 1. When I look at someone I will be like in my head who is he/she? What's a human? How are they talking? What's beaneath their skin and bones? They are just energy and spirit. 2. What's my own mind? What is my consciousness? How am I thinking? Oh i just moved my hand how could I do that? Who am I?? How am I Me? It's like for everything I do for example move my hands, drink water, eat food, take showers, go for a run there is an existential thought associated with with it like OH YOU JUST DRANK WATEE WHAT IS WATER? WHAT US FOOD, HOW CAN I RUN?. All these thoughts have made me more involved with MYSELF WITHIN. It's like I am withing MYSELF BEING ALL THE TIME.questions like how can I carry my body? I'm basically nothing but a consciousness what is all this? PLEASE HELP IF ANYONE BEEN THROUGH THIS AND HOW TO COME OUT OF IT somedays are good. But i think I would never be able to look at life and live like how OTHER HUMANS live smiling and laughing and going about the day. AGAIN, PLEASE HELP
I feel the same way about food and stuff but to a lesser extent because my ocd focuses on fear of death my own and my parents, and eternity, having a soul and not being able to escape that. Anyway, the food thing freaks me out then when I try to tell a friend, they will say they dont feel that and they are glad they dont and hope to never feel it. I then obsess over how it is truly horrible that they said that because I feel its a horrible reality for everyone even if they dont feel it. I almost feel like they are just choosing to ignore these feelings that we all OCD people have.
I hate to seek reassurance, but would you consider existential anxiety and existential OCD the same thing? And should I view this as basically an existential crisis?
@@kirsty9330 thank you Kirsty. I feel I’m doing better. When I get existential thoughts I can let them run their course and disappear. I’ve definitely gotten stronger.
Can anyone help answer these 3 questions? 1. Do other people see both the imagery and the room/place they are in 2. Do other people feel like some images are closer than others? 3. I don’t take any drugs or have a diagnosis of anything other than OCD is anyone else the same
Will I ever get back to the way I was before existential ocd? It's been over a month, I miss doing the things I used to do without questioning reality, if anything is real. I've been doing ERP for a few days now, and my anxiety levels have decreased but I wonder if the thoughts will stop feeling real?
My ocd started with harm ocd then as I was doing my best to recover which was very very hard I started smoking weed,,,,, this then put in depersonalization / derealization disorder,,,,,, then it went to am I awake or am I dreaming? Then I had a conversation with a friend who claims to be a Buddhist then my ocd has been about reincarnation, that I don't like the idea that I'll forget my loved ones an that they will forget meַ then from this conversation exculated then to free will what if I don't have free will. Then I kept looking up free will, reincarnation if it's true or not or if it's a choice to chose it or not. Now I'm very lost. I stopped smoking then started smoking CBD it helps relax my anxiety. I'm trying hard to do erp I just don't know if I'm doing it right. I use to have hope about everything, that there was something watching us all who loved us,,that we would all be with our loved ones in the end because that's all that matters to me in life I understand that I have enjoy my loved ones now,,,but before I enjoyed them more when I had hope in such things now I don't know anymore,,,, I'm losing hope but I'm trying to keep hope alive hope that maybe we all will be together again. OCD is hell it really is, I really appreciate any of you who read this I hope you all live a good life, a happy one. An to the man in this video I hope you do to. Love to you all.
Changing perspective on having ocd can be really helpful, there are some videos about perspective and acceptance that could be helpful for you. There is always hope, ocd is treatable but you need persistence
@@kirsty9330 I'm trying I really am yesterday. I'm trying not to google I now understand that's my urge or compulsion. Idk if that's the word to use but what I mean is my ocd gives a question then I suddenly get the massive urge to google. Googling made it worse now whenever I get that urge I'm fighting it hard. Like it's sneaky as shit like I get "It's just one question how could that hurt you? Go ahead" or " We've already taken so much why not take just a bit more how could this hurt you then the other stuff" an then I find myself reaching for my phone. But I stop myself saying No I don't care to know I don't wanna know. I can do this usely after smoking CBD I guess cus my anxiety is mangable but when I don't. Its harrible like right now I just woke up an omg The Ocd Monster is there. Btw thank you so much for replying to my comment I really appreciate that.
I understand the obsession about reincarnation. This actually triggered a huge existential crisis for me and I went completely numb it about a day. Since then it’s been very hard to reconnect to myself. I think one thing to keep in mind though is there’s virtually no evidence that reincarnation is real. Yes, a lot of people believe in it, so is there people that believe there is no God, so is there people that believe in multiple gods etc. that can’t all be real at once. Therefore, there’s a chance reincarnation is not real. Even if you consider past life regressions, take a chance to check out a video on TH-cam perhaps, if you are a skeptic thinker like me I bet you will see that it’s all highly suggestive. Do you yourself have memories of a past life? Im willing to bet that if you went to multiple psychics and ask them who you were in a past life, you wouldn’t get the same answer from any. Why? Because it’s not real. I get it though. The issue with OCD is you feel triggered by stuff even if you have no evidence it’s real. Many people are completely fine with the notion of Reincarnation or in fact love the idea but I think their brains work differently than ours, where for people with OCD our brains automatically jump to “well if reincarnation is real then that means at some point well be different people and so will our loved ones.” While people who accept reincarnation are obviously aware of this belief I don’t think they’re able to perceive it like how we do, they simply are present and not bothered by their thoughts. I know because I have family members who believe in reincarnation yet they still care and love for their family members very much the belief doesn’t stop them from caring or having meaning in life. Still, I’m not saying reincarnation is real rather that people aren’t bothered by it because they don’t perceive it how we do.
@@pault9544 I hope it wasn't my comment that triggered this :/ but I completely understand you wow like this hole thing was making everyday hell for me. Cus I kept coming to the conclusion that everything is pointless loving people is pointless cus if we arent gonna be together in the spirit world an won't remember each other why bother? Then you got the notion from buddhism that says let go of attachments an just love an that kinda triggered me to cus I'm not perfect. I know people die yes an there's nothing I can do about it but before all this I was willing to just have fun with the people I loved in the moment I didn't much think of it, an whenever I did I just thought well we'll all be together again in the spirit world. It basically saying that I was selfish for wanting such a thing. I won't lie I'm still not over this obsession it got worse an worse the more I googled things. The best thing I can say is DONT GOOGLE ABOUT IT or anything related to it. Just stop. Like my ocd will continue with the questions an I just say "Fine I'll forget everyone I love an all of this is meaningless so fuck it I'ma go bawling" now accepting your thoughts is not the same as agreeing with them. Meaning just because I say this doesn't mean I believe it. Maybe reincarnation is true or not true I like to think that when we die the great one gives us a choice for being good people. To come back as someone else or to live on in the in-between. Please don't take this as reassurance because I wouldn't want to hurt you like that because I'm realizing that reassurance makes it worse what I'm trying to say is we really don't know what is going to happen we really don't know. Someone said to me once that people who remember past lives like they say there are children who remember past lives and they come up with pristine accuracy about things well someone once said that that doesn't mean it's reincarnation it just means that maybe a spirit of someone latched on to the child and since children are so open to spirituality because they're pure maybe that's how it's happening now I'm not trying to give reassurance again I'm just saying that I've been down this road I know what you're talking about I have googled non-stop wasted time in my life trying to figure out how it will all end how will everything end and I'm going to tell you this just go hug your parents go hug your loved ones and just be with them fuck it. If reincarnation is real think about it like this then that would mean you've had different loved ones in your lifetimes and that would mean that everyone you see anyone you see could potentially have been a loved one and if you look at it like that then that means everyone you see deserves love not just your parents everyone deserves love not just your girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever everyone deserves it you know and then the idea that like you know the Buddha said. I think every major belief system has been trying to say this is that there is no self there is no I you know I think Jim Carrey even said it you know you know one of his videos if you look at it that there is no self then that would mean that you are me and I am you now the expression of Love thy neighbor makes sense because you see I want to treat you how I wish to be treated so therefore I project myself upon you and say well I would love to be respected and loved so therefore I'm going to give the same to you because you are me and I am you you see what I'm saying so therefore you could look at this obsession as a painful experience but also as a spiritual awakening of some sort to basically say that like yeah you know we are all one on earth you know this Earth doesn't belong to us everything on it every Rock every tree every atom in between everything and between you and everything we are all one you know. I'm trying to say is like this is how I'm trying to defeat the OCD that I have by accepting what I don't know by accepting what I can't control and trying to control my perception on how I look at things so yes our love the ones will die but maybe we won't remember them or maybe we will maybe we'll all meet in the spirit world I don't know but if we don't remember each other maybe God or the Creator or the architect of the simulation or whatever you want to say will remember us for us. I hope none of this triggers you by the way I just wanted to share my opinion you know because I know what you're going through I know exactly what you're going to like regular people don't think about s*** the way me and you do you know it's like it's like a it's like human beings don't really think too much into things but like people like me and you were like we got like super computers in our brains we're like brainiac you know we we analyze everything to death we try to figure out every possible thing to a question you know what I mean we're computers we're like Androids we're brainiac but other people like if you bring up reincarnation to them they'll think like yeah I don't know maybe I do believe it but then when you say but then that means you're going to forget your loved ones and they're going to forget you and they think to themselves wow I never thought of it that way. But people like me and you do so you know don't even get me started on karma because karma triggered me a lot too but all I got to say is this try whenever these questions come out in your head instead of analyzing them just say I don't know f*** it. Like you know my OCD was like you better find enlightenment so you could escape the simulation and be free of karma or something like that right well I then say well I've been in this simulation for so long I like it here. just stupid s*** like that now that doesn't mean you have to believe any of these things it just means you're playing poker with that part of your brain that's not working right you got to play poker with it you got to change how you feel and everything you got to force yourself to feel good it's hard but it's true. No I'm in no way an expert but this is how I'm doing it and I'm really sorry cuz I type a lot.
@@ranafaisal1172 we would prefer it that way but we can survive without them as we have the times when they haven’t been there. It won’t be terrifying, our perspective is what makes it feel that way.
My problem is not that we will be okay without our parents, my problem is that it still will never solve the fact that they will die and this in turn will make my life more miserable and my OCD too, as I will wonder where did they go, and so on..
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I have never come across a video that described my struggles so well. Does anyone else focus on every single little detail of life such as the fact that we are human and why do we look like this and how is any of it possible etc.? I will find myself getting so freaked out interacting with even my loved ones because I'll be like "what am I looking at right now." It sounds so silly but its so scary 😂
Omfg this is me! I literally think about existential stuff to the point of debilitating fear because I don’t fully comprehend it all so NATURALLY, the understanding is I’m going to die 😭
Thank you smart bearded british man
Made me laugh. Thank you! Wondering if you've taken the MBTI, and if so, what your 4 letters are....?
This video changed everything for me. I had been a huge existential thinker for a long while, not too obsessed per say over the subject, but Id largely delve pretty deep in ideas that used to not scare me. It all changed after a large panic attack that I had when trying to fall asleep… I was thinking about my existence and realized something quite frightening (don’t remember exactly what it was but it was surrounding my part in reality or something in that realm) I went into a derealized state and depersonalized too with all the physical and visual symptoms and fears.. ended up getting to sleep very late.. woke up anxious as well and had another panic attack at school when realizing that everything looked strange (the onset of the DPDR) it’s been two weeks since that night and I learned what I was going through and quickly calmed the anxiety down through accepting my feelings as my bodies “over reaction” to my experience. The visual and physical symptoms quickly diminished, though the physical detachment ones still come but not frequently. However, I became obsessed with existential thinking, as I began to question if I was real or if anything was real at all. I’d Google every thing you could think of from symptoms to articles about consciousness, trying to find answers to my questions. I didn’t realize how obsessive it was becoming till it got to this point, as I have been thinking about my existence almost 24/7 since everything happened. But I’ve come to realize that no one on this earth knows the outcome of death, why we are here, how we are here, or WHAT any of this is. This video was so relatable to me that I laughed at how insane it was. Solipsistic thoughts have been plaguing me as well. But I know that I can’t make order of it.. and I hated that for quite a while till I saw this video and realized that I was looking for that “non existent key to my non existent lock.” I didn’t believe in god before, and I was fine with the uncertainty then. But then my brain latched on to all these ideas and questions with no answers: thus the anxiety. If you’re reading this and struggling…. Know that acceptance will save you. That, and the motivation to persevere. You are not alone, dear solipsistic friends, and you are REAL, dpdr sufferers. and to my existentialists… it’s okay to not know… everything you’ll need to know, you will learn in time. Peace to anyone reading. There is an end to the suffering, and you will come out SO much stronger and happier
Can I contact you somewhere? I need help
Exactly what I'm experiencing. Thank u for this !
How are you now? Completely recovered from dp/Dr?
How are you now? Did you ever really worry you were going crazy when overwhelmed with DP/DR? Or suffered from depression because of it?
@@marial3301 it is still a battle! But my god it has gotten easier in so many ways. And yes, it did cause depression but im prone to depression and have had it most of my life so far.. and yes feeling crazy is completely normal with this because not many people talk about this stuff (our friends and family) and it can feel isolating but oh man let me tell you billions of people have thought these things, we are no where near alone
OMG HOW CAN THIS BE SO ACCURATE!!!!! WTF
You put into words exactly how I feel. I’m floored
I feel like no one has ever understood me like this man has I was blown away!
Did you struggle with solipsism?
I recently had this epiphany after watching your videos. I’m currently suffering from existential/solipsism OCD, and I’m just afraid that I might feel disconnected forever and in turn this will make me suffer forever. When I was a small child, I was raised Christian and suffered scrupulosity/blasphemy OCD. If no one is familiar with these it’s when you learn of the unforgivable sin which is blasphemying the Holy Spirit, and you become afraid that God’ll send you to hell forever. I have realized these two OCDs are one in the same! The existential and religious OCD I mean. It’s all eternal suffering OCD! The fear is that I’ll be afraid of suffering forever, forever! If that makes sense.
We also have a webinar coming up on this if you are interested 📧 phil@ocdrecovery.com
@@OCDRecovery depends on when it is.
Can I just ask - were your feelings/thoughts of DP/Dr so strong at any point that you worried you were getting crazy or got really depressed?
@@marial3301 lmao hell yea they were! Don’t worry you’ll get through it. I’m just now getting over a battle with schizophrenia OCD.
This is exactly what I’ve been going through for the last month. I had depersonalization and derealization for a number of months and I just started feeling better then read something or heard something about death and now I can’t stop thinking about death and I feel not interested in life because of it. My brain is obsessing over it and I’m afraid I’ll never stop thinking about it and care about life again.
I totally get this. I've had severe OCD most of my life and depersonalization/derealization on and off since 2012. I've only just learned about in-depth and how to fight it in the past year or two. The fear of this feeling is far worse than the feeling itself. Learning to get under the fear of it, and under fear of fear, has been really huge. As Rob says, wear the anxiety like an uncomfortable coat. Live with that uncertainty. Stop trying to figure out if you'll have it the rest of your life. You've gotten through this before and it's nothing new for you, and you'll get through it again.
Same. How are you doing now
@@psychologynerd7280 how are you?
@@mikechrist9699 Hi. I'm doing very well. All the symptoms are gone. I've been living my days anxiety free.
@@psychologynerd7280 good to hear that! How long does it last for you? I hope i can be 100% recovered lmao
Thank you for this knowledge. This is pure gold. What you guys are doing with this channel is changing my perspective on OCD in ways that haven’t happened with my therapist. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and past experiences. This has given me new hope based on how hard it was to find anything to relate to what I’ve been dealing with.
I’ve never felt more understood! 🥺
I have had this since I was a little kid, it became better for a couple of years because I was able to distract myself from these thoughts, but since a couple of months it started again. I fear, that if I don't think these thoughts I'm living a lie and not living the truth, but if I think about those things I get extremely scared. I mostly fear that I don't know what happens after we die and what if there is nothing.
I’m exactly the same as you!
This really helped me. I’ve been experiencing bad panic attacks and have been depressed like I have never been before for the past 2 weeks. I am scared of death, of going crazy, of not understanding existence, and keep diving into books and trying to meditate trying to find ‘the right feeling’. I didn’t understand this until watching your video, I’m chasing a feeling, and getting bummed out because nothing feels right.
Glad it helped! Through insight we diffuse the anxious cycle. We have a few webinars coming up on this topic if interested 📧 phil@ocdrecovery.com
How are you now?
How are you now? Did you ever really worry you were going crazy when overwhelmed with DP/DR? Or suffered from depression because of it?
thank you mr. robot 😂🙂 very informative video
ive had ocd/anxiety disorder for years now but it turned into dpdr and then my dpdr turned into existential ocd. i can feel that im just thoughts inside a body. im almost scared of the fact that i exist and im self aware of my self consciousness. 😭😭 i have constant panic attacks over it now.
How are you now?
@@marial3301 i am a little better. i've slowly tried to learn how to accept my thoughts and let them be there. it's definitely not easy at all and i still struggle a lot.
@@kayleydrummond1819 hi, how are you doing now?
I love you man this is so helpful
At least now I have a word for it.. Thanks for another stellar video Rob
That looking for the sensation example is ace
I am going thorough all of this now. Thank you for the video.
Thank you so much! Your video is so inspiring to me.
Hello Rob, I could see you being a teacher/professor. I like your enthusiasm. Thanks.
This man actually understand what is OCD
Wow wow wow! Thank you so much! You literally just made so much sense of what I’ve been dealing with. I almost feel like a wave of clarity has been bestowed upon me! Thank You Thank You! I will continue to practice what you preach! Thanks again so much!
Do you struggle with solipsism?
So helpful thankyou and you definitely got the t shirt 🤣
Excellent video Rob as always but this really is spot on for my personal journey 👏
Do you struggle with solipsism ?
Glad I found this video. I started experiencing this form of OCD after a brief stint in the hospital this past spring, that in hindsight, was a day-long panic attack where my heart-rate was elevated. I was completely convinced it was my covid vaccine (absolutely not anti-vaxx, btw) and potential side effects. Of course they found nothing of note wrong with my health, after dozens of tests. Since then, I completely felt as you described that, "steroid-like lock of anxiety." I was obsessively checking my heart rate by using a pulse-oxi meter. This translated to a fixation about death, as my grandmother died quite young (she was a mother figure to me) unexpectedly in her sleep. I was convinced my elevated heart rate would cause some catastrophic event. Went through a bout of insomnia, ocd tried to "solve" this, fixated on my sleep schedule, etc. Slowly but surely this lessened one big instance at a time. I still struggle form time to time, and I'd say I'm about 60% through the recovery process, and hardly do physical checking compulsions, but the existential component has been the absolute hardest to unlock consistently.
hey, how are you doing now?
As some who does training for a living I applaud how you present the same central ideas and themes over and over again but in different ways. It really helps since it gives the learner several attempts and different ways to comprehend the information that you are trying to get across. Thank you!
Did you struggle with solipsism?
It’s so refreshing to hear this, I honestly didn’t know other people suffered with this as well. I remember around 5 years ago I was in the dentist and out of no where the “what if no one around me exists” thought popped into my head, it absolutely terrified me and so my existential/ solipsism ocd began. I don’t even remember how it left, I just know I got down to only thinking about it once a day (which was great for me). Anyway fast forward 4 years- lockdown in full swing- I’m sitting at home and my brain tells me I’m going to die one day and it’s going to be an abyss of darkness forever and ever. Que, again, the existential ocd..this time mainly focused on death and what happens afterwards. However, this time I also had selfharm/ suicide ocd.. silly because im so scared of death, why would I ever hurt myself? Haha. I’ve been going through this around a year now, but I am feeling gradual improvements In myself! I’ve had a couple therapists but unfortunately I feel like they just don’t get it, they generalised my symptoms and I felt like the treatment they gave me was just based around anxiety and nothing to do with ocd... so I was wandering what ERP techniques would you recommended for existential/ fear of death ocd? Thanks for the videos, you’re helping a lot of people :)
I have solipsism ocd 😭🆘 do you have any tips? Did you take any medication?
@@beeberry8055 Hello, sorry to hear this, it really sucks. No I didn’t take any medication.
I think all I can really say is no matter how scary and real it’s feels right now, the feeling will pass. This type of thing sneaks up on you and when it attacks it feels like it’s gospel and you’ve always felt like it and so it must be the truth, but it’s not! Don’t believe it!
Do what you can you keep your self busy, distraction helped me a lot. Also try to not Google/ reassurance seek, that’s what ocd thrives on. I didn’t even realise that I was actually making it worse when I was frantically googling lol. But also don’t hold your feelings in, that won’t help you either, speak to somebody you trust and let them know how you are feeling, I think saying it out loud can alleviate some of the emotions.
Also whenever you get the thoughts pop up (whether that be 10 times a day or 1000) stop yourself, take a deep breath, tell yourself this is your OCD talking and it doesn’t mean anything and then continue with what you doing before (takes a bit of practice but really works).
I really hope this helps, I promise you the feeling will pass. I’m 100 times better then I was when I originally wrote this comment.
Just give it time, and remember there’s so much help out there, you’re not alone.
Abbie 🙂
@@abbie3604 sorry, may i ask you something? I experienced existential crisis not a long time ago. I feel better now and not experiencing any panic attacks anymore. But the thought of dead still in my mind most of time. Do you have the same recovering experience? And it's possible to stop thinking about it and live a normal life just like before i experienced existential crisis? Im sorry this is too long but i hope you can answer. Thanks in advance
@@mikechrist9699 may I answer your question?? I went through the same thing. Existential fiasco began when I went through DPDR. Never thought my own existence until then. Now DPDR is gone. But those thoughts/realization will be there. Reason, while unbeknownst to us as humans, we have created a neuro pathway which resulted in remembering that stuff. Now I can say for myself I am able to ignore it now by saying it’s a thought. I dismiss it EVERYTIME. Which will make the brain see there is no value in the thought and will eventually stop bringing it up. It takes practice.
@@babiiluv7931 can I contact you somewhere?
So true this Neurosis/OCD tripping in the brain with all this shit inside your head. Thanks my overseas friend from the 🇺🇲
I recently recovered from an intense 1 year bout of DPDR and I had fully recovered but due to some circumstances recently, I had a resurgence of anxiety. For the most part I've been just fine, but I read an article about repressed memories of trauma and I suddenly have began obsessing over the possibility of is there some deep horrific trauma that I don't remember? Is this a form of existential OCD? For background I've had a wonderful life, sure I dealt with bullying and my father being disabled due to a work injury but I never once even considered such a possibility before. I also don't have huge gaps of my memory missing, only the normal haziness of trying to remember middle school when you're almost 30. I'm just afraid that I'm going to convince myself that there was this unknown trauma my family has hidden from me that never existed, which is insane.
Exactly what I had
I had also death anxiety..but I overcome it ..now again I have those thoughts. With another OCD
Rob I am curious how you feel now that you’ve recovered from this as in do you view things normally again? I have moments where I am doing better and not giving these thoughts as much value, I start feeling more connected again etc. But the thoughts on reality/solipsism are still there and just the absurdity of everything in general. It’s been almost 7 mos for me now and I just don’t want this to be the “best recovery gets” where I can’t stop seeing things for how absurd they are
One thought that really helped me: we don't know, why, for example, a hand doesn't go through a chair. We don't know! Most people probably don't even think about it and now that you read this, do you feel scared by that? Are you panicking? Probably not! Now, if not knowing why your hand can't go through a chair doesn't really bother you, why would you worry about existence, reality, death, conciousness or whatever else?
Are you still struggling with solipsism ?
Man thats good!
That's really good. Did you ever go through this?
@@chintudutta5662 yes I did go through this, it was the most difficult thing I've ever experienced. But I'm an optimistic person and started looking for ways to remind me that I'm not alone and this world is indeed very real, and that's when I thought of that.😊
@@beeberry8055 I still have some lower moments, but all I need to calm down are a few reminders, and it's getting less and less frequent, I'm proud to say it's almost completely gone now!
could you do a video on magical thinking.
my thoughts started when i smoked marijuana and i tripped very badly. now all i think is that i’m not alive anymore and i can’t feel my reality anymore. it gives me a lot of physical symptoms and mental. i have a major fear of death because of this.
Incredibly common, it feels like that because you fear that. Your 🧠 didn’t change, you were triggered and OCD latched causing this illusionary state.
@@OCDRecovery now i’ve had a lot of symptoms of pure ocd, it’s a bully
I had the exact same thing happen to me. That’s when it started, I was a freshman in high school, fast forward to today I’m 24 and have lived with this for like 10 years. Talk about exhaustion… it subsided for a few years where I was so distracted by life as I was growing, graduating, starting college, I ended up in a car accident 2019 then Covid 2020 and boom, back to managing this daily like it never left, even worse than the first time around. I pray continually to be healed because I just want my life back. Can barely drive or travel further than 30min from home by myself. I’m sick of it. It’s unbelievable, I hope we all get relief eventually for the long term.
@@Ali-zb9km i’m praying for recovery for the both of us. it’s really hard to go along your day living with it but what helped me was realizing that life was still okay even if life was fake.
@@emilyjane6578 are you afraid of solipsism?
I had this OCD ...I had recovered just staying with that....now I have another themes..
My OCD latching on to where thoughts coming from and do I really have control of them!
Omg.. same..
I get triggered when I watch an old movie and realize that everyone, including the people, dogs, cats, etc.. who are so alive in the movie are now gone, forever...
Yes good exposure watching it for that reason, I used to get that one. “How can they all be gone forever.”
I had my 1st OCD in 2015 as existential OCD. Then I have all types of another OCD but with gap
Hows you dear? My first anxiety in 2021 as sensory ocd..but now i faced in 2023 an existential ocd..can i completely healed from this type of ocd?
Has anyone's feelings or thoughts connected to DP/DR been so strong at any point that you worried/thought you were really going crazy? Or has anyone ever got really depressed because of these horrific feelings/thoughts ?
Yes. Unfortunately I can relate to that. Usually I can snap myself out of a major episode by reminding myself that it will pass like it always has. It is such a struggle but I believe that you can do this!!
@@ukuleleperson4563 hi, how are you? Have you recovered completely?
Yes!!!
I would like to know if someone else possibly shares my fears. I fear my own existence, my death and that of my parents mainly. I dread eternity in any way shape or form as in the afterlife. I feel stuck here because I exist without ever having wanted to. I know everyone is on the same boat but others are okay with this. I feel despair that I was brought into existence and now will be forcefully part of it, death and whatever comes after. That I strongly feel and suspect is am eternal life. I dread all this and there is no way out of it. I see no use in coping or acceptance as it doesnt take away what is, the reality that I exist. I feel in terrible agony all the time. I always suffered with this but the last 10 months have been worst. I cry for hours and scream in terror until my voice goes away, I get the urge to run, rip my clothes, tap the floor, say random things all feeling an intense horror and a knowing I can't escape my faith, my reality. I feel total despair and defeat. I dont eat or sleep. When I sleep it is out of pure exhaustion and even then I wake up screaming. I have other symptoms I display during peak crisis (I dont know how else to call it) these are like right out of an exorcism movie, minus the levitating. Please if anyone else experiences this, let me know. I feel so alone and no one understands me.
Don't feel alone as I have the same fear of eternity. Firstly get to a proper doctor as you might have a related anxiety disorder which need proper help and maybe medication. I need a combination of anti anxiety meds and a degree of OCD therapy to help.
I came of my meds last year and am back to square one with my anxiety and thoughts so going through the same pain again, but there is hope as I know when I am better the thoughts don't scare me as much.
Hi Everyone hope you're all safe. I am a recovered of anxiety and depression journey of 5 years in the past. It's been about a year now about existential thoughts. I have the below thoughts and they have put me in a state/ made me a person from where Il never come out of. I have the below thoughts on a constant basis.
1. When I look at someone I will be like in my head who is he/she? What's a human? How are they talking? What's beaneath their skin and bones? They are just energy and spirit.
2. What's my own mind? What is my consciousness? How am I thinking? Oh i just moved my hand how could I do that? Who am I?? How am I Me?
It's like for everything I do for example move my hands, drink water, eat food, take showers, go for a run there is an existential thought associated with with it like OH YOU JUST DRANK WATEE WHAT IS WATER? WHAT US FOOD, HOW CAN I RUN?.
All these thoughts have made me more involved with MYSELF WITHIN. It's like I am withing MYSELF BEING ALL THE TIME.questions like how can I carry my body? I'm basically nothing but a consciousness what is all this?
PLEASE HELP IF ANYONE BEEN THROUGH THIS AND HOW TO COME OUT OF IT
somedays are good. But i think I would never be able to look at life and live like how OTHER HUMANS live smiling and laughing and going about the day.
AGAIN, PLEASE HELP
This is what the video is talking about. Pretty much everything is from the OCD fears. How are you feeling now?
@@user-ut4he8bs5d I feel the same as him tbh and it can really be tired some
I feel the same way about food and stuff but to a lesser extent because my ocd focuses on fear of death my own and my parents, and eternity, having a soul and not being able to escape that. Anyway, the food thing freaks me out then when I try to tell a friend, they will say they dont feel that and they are glad they dont and hope to never feel it. I then obsess over how it is truly horrible that they said that because I feel its a horrible reality for everyone even if they dont feel it. I almost feel like they are just choosing to ignore these feelings that we all OCD people have.
I'm going through the exact same thing. Omg
How we should perform ERP for the existential thoughts?
This is best discussed with ocd coach or therapist
@@kirsty9330 Rob is an OCD Coach
Wondering the same. Keep pushing forward OCD warriors.
I hate to seek reassurance, but would you consider existential anxiety and existential OCD the same thing? And should I view this as basically an existential crisis?
You don’t need to define it as either necessarily - looking at the irrational beliefs that are fuelling it applies to both
@@kirsty9330 thank you Kirsty. I feel I’m doing better. When I get existential thoughts I can let them run their course and disappear. I’ve definitely gotten stronger.
Are you afraid of solipsism?
@@beeberry8055 hell yeah!!
@@starboiklem8381 are you still afraid of solipsism?
Is this mental health problem permanent?
Can anyone help answer these 3 questions?
1. Do other people see both the imagery and the room/place they are in
2. Do other people feel like some images are closer than others?
3. I don’t take any drugs or have a diagnosis of anything other than OCD is anyone else the same
Will I ever get back to the way I was before existential ocd? It's been over a month, I miss doing the things I used to do without questioning reality, if anything is real. I've been doing ERP for a few days now, and my anxiety levels have decreased but I wonder if the thoughts will stop feeling real?
how are you doing now?
@@lucavalsan8770 A lot better I still have existential thoughts but I dont give them as much value now
Id say about 50% recovered? 2 months ago it was really bad, I was dissociating and stuff, which made the thoughts seem real.
@@bifrost8832 but now do your thoughts feel less real?
@@bifrost8832 did you take any medication?
And then there is me.. triggered my OCD with a freaking tv show
For me it was a movie, so yes... It doesn't matter really..
My ocd started with harm ocd then as I was doing my best to recover which was very very hard I started smoking weed,,,,, this then put in depersonalization / derealization disorder,,,,,, then it went to am I awake or am I dreaming? Then I had a conversation with a friend who claims to be a Buddhist then my ocd has been about reincarnation, that I don't like the idea that I'll forget my loved ones an that they will forget meַ then from this conversation exculated then to free will what if I don't have free will. Then I kept looking up free will, reincarnation if it's true or not or if it's a choice to chose it or not. Now I'm very lost. I stopped smoking then started smoking CBD it helps relax my anxiety. I'm trying hard to do erp I just don't know if I'm doing it right. I use to have hope about everything, that there was something watching us all who loved us,,that we would all be with our loved ones in the end because that's all that matters to me in life I understand that I have enjoy my loved ones now,,,but before I enjoyed them more when I had hope in such things now I don't know anymore,,,, I'm losing hope but I'm trying to keep hope alive hope that maybe we all will be together again. OCD is hell it really is, I really appreciate any of you who read this I hope you all live a good life, a happy one. An to the man in this video I hope you do to. Love to you all.
Changing perspective on having ocd can be really helpful, there are some videos about perspective and acceptance that could be helpful for you. There is always hope, ocd is treatable but you need persistence
@@kirsty9330 I'm trying I really am yesterday. I'm trying not to google I now understand that's my urge or compulsion. Idk if that's the word to use but what I mean is my ocd gives a question then I suddenly get the massive urge to google. Googling made it worse now whenever I get that urge I'm fighting it hard. Like it's sneaky as shit like I get "It's just one question how could that hurt you? Go ahead" or " We've already taken so much why not take just a bit more how could this hurt you then the other stuff" an then I find myself reaching for my phone. But I stop myself saying No I don't care to know I don't wanna know. I can do this usely after smoking CBD I guess cus my anxiety is mangable but when I don't. Its harrible like right now I just woke up an omg The Ocd Monster is there. Btw thank you so much for replying to my comment I really appreciate that.
I understand the obsession about reincarnation. This actually triggered a huge existential crisis for me and I went completely numb it about a day. Since then it’s been very hard to reconnect to myself. I think one thing to keep in mind though is there’s virtually no evidence that reincarnation is real. Yes, a lot of people believe in it, so is there people that believe there is no God, so is there people that believe in multiple gods etc. that can’t all be real at once. Therefore, there’s a chance reincarnation is not real.
Even if you consider past life regressions, take a chance to check out a video on TH-cam perhaps, if you are a skeptic thinker like me I bet you will see that it’s all highly suggestive. Do you yourself have memories of a past life? Im willing to bet that if you went to multiple psychics and ask them who you were in a past life, you wouldn’t get the same answer from any. Why? Because it’s not real.
I get it though. The issue with OCD is you feel triggered by stuff even if you have no evidence it’s real. Many people are completely fine with the notion of Reincarnation or in fact love the idea but I think their brains work differently than ours, where for people with OCD our brains automatically jump to “well if reincarnation is real then that means at some point well be different people and so will our loved ones.” While people who accept reincarnation are obviously aware of this belief I don’t think they’re able to perceive it like how we do, they simply are present and not bothered by their thoughts. I know because I have family members who believe in reincarnation yet they still care and love for their family members very much the belief doesn’t stop them from caring or having meaning in life. Still, I’m not saying reincarnation is real rather that people aren’t bothered by it because they don’t perceive it how we do.
@@pault9544 I hope it wasn't my comment that triggered this :/ but I completely understand you wow like this hole thing was making everyday hell for me. Cus I kept coming to the conclusion that everything is pointless loving people is pointless cus if we arent gonna be together in the spirit world an won't remember each other why bother? Then you got the notion from buddhism that says let go of attachments an just love an that kinda triggered me to cus I'm not perfect. I know people die yes an there's nothing I can do about it but before all this I was willing to just have fun with the people I loved in the moment I didn't much think of it, an whenever I did I just thought well we'll all be together again in the spirit world. It basically saying that I was selfish for wanting such a thing. I won't lie I'm still not over this obsession it got worse an worse the more I googled things. The best thing I can say is DONT GOOGLE ABOUT IT or anything related to it. Just stop. Like my ocd will continue with the questions an I just say "Fine I'll forget everyone I love an all of this is meaningless so fuck it I'ma go bawling" now accepting your thoughts is not the same as agreeing with them. Meaning just because I say this doesn't mean I believe it. Maybe reincarnation is true or not true I like to think that when we die the great one gives us a choice for being good people. To come back as someone else or to live on in the in-between. Please don't take this as reassurance because I wouldn't want to hurt you like that because I'm realizing that reassurance makes it worse what I'm trying to say is we really don't know what is going to happen we really don't know. Someone said to me once that people who remember past lives like they say there are children who remember past lives and they come up with pristine accuracy about things well someone once said that that doesn't mean it's reincarnation it just means that maybe a spirit of someone latched on to the child and since children are so open to spirituality because they're pure maybe that's how it's happening now I'm not trying to give reassurance again I'm just saying that I've been down this road I know what you're talking about I have googled non-stop wasted time in my life trying to figure out how it will all end how will everything end and I'm going to tell you this just go hug your parents go hug your loved ones and just be with them fuck it. If reincarnation is real think about it like this then that would mean you've had different loved ones in your lifetimes and that would mean that everyone you see anyone you see could potentially have been a loved one and if you look at it like that then that means everyone you see deserves love not just your parents everyone deserves love not just your girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever everyone deserves it you know and then the idea that like you know the Buddha said. I think every major belief system has been trying to say this is that there is no self there is no I you know I think Jim Carrey even said it you know you know one of his videos if you look at it that there is no self then that would mean that you are me and I am you now the expression of Love thy neighbor makes sense because you see I want to treat you how I wish to be treated so therefore I project myself upon you and say well I would love to be respected and loved so therefore I'm going to give the same to you because you are me and I am you you see what I'm saying so therefore you could look at this obsession as a painful experience but also as a spiritual awakening of some sort to basically say that like yeah you know we are all one on earth you know this Earth doesn't belong to us everything on it every Rock every tree every atom in between everything and between you and everything we are all one you know. I'm trying to say is like this is how I'm trying to defeat the OCD that I have by accepting what I don't know by accepting what I can't control and trying to control my perception on how I look at things so yes our love the ones will die but maybe we won't remember them or maybe we will maybe we'll all meet in the spirit world I don't know but if we don't remember each other maybe God or the Creator or the architect of the simulation or whatever you want to say will remember us for us. I hope none of this triggers you by the way I just wanted to share my opinion you know because I know what you're going through I know exactly what you're going to like regular people don't think about s*** the way me and you do you know it's like it's like a it's like human beings don't really think too much into things but like people like me and you were like we got like super computers in our brains we're like brainiac you know we we analyze everything to death we try to figure out every possible thing to a question you know what I mean we're computers we're like Androids we're brainiac but other people like if you bring up reincarnation to them they'll think like yeah I don't know maybe I do believe it but then when you say but then that means you're going to forget your loved ones and they're going to forget you and they think to themselves wow I never thought of it that way. But people like me and you do so you know don't even get me started on karma because karma triggered me a lot too but all I got to say is this try whenever these questions come out in your head instead of analyzing them just say I don't know f*** it. Like you know my OCD was like you better find enlightenment so you could escape the simulation and be free of karma or something like that right well I then say well I've been in this simulation for so long I like it here. just stupid s*** like that now that doesn't mean you have to believe any of these things it just means you're playing poker with that part of your brain that's not working right you got to play poker with it you got to change how you feel and everything you got to force yourself to feel good it's hard but it's true. No I'm in no way an expert but this is how I'm doing it and I'm really sorry cuz I type a lot.
@@pault9544 Hey how are you?? Everything okay???
Is anyone here obsessed with determinism
How you getting on with this man? I’m still struggling with it but on some medication now and looks like imma get some help for it
This me reminds of the Chinese finger trap
Can I connect to you somewhere? I really need somehelp
📧 phil@ocdrecovery.com
You're saying you didn't experience all this since 4-5 years old? I envy that, not gonna lie
Always afraid that eventually one day parents will die , how to cope with this
Why do you NEED them to live forever?
@@OCDRecovery because I love them and I want them to be with me till I live here on earth
@@ranafaisal1172 we would prefer it that way but we can survive without them as we have the times when they haven’t been there. It won’t be terrifying, our perspective is what makes it feel that way.
@@OCDRecovery ok thanks for replying
My problem is not that we will be okay without our parents, my problem is that it still will never solve the fact that they will die and this in turn will make my life more miserable and my OCD too, as I will wonder where did they go, and so on..
After watching this I got a big emotional dump
Thank you smart bearded british man