Unrelated to this video but i have to say it. What you do here is amazing and i hope people at adobe take notice of this. Because AE and PR users feel absolutely left alone and not supported at all. Seeing that here is a tool with its own "representative" producing content, answering questions, taking notes and feature requests, discusses upcoming features and statuses is an amazing thing.
it's almost always you coming out with one of these videos describing an exciting new feature that gives me all kinds of inspiration for a new animation...
This is the most game changing thing ever. Along with triggered swap sets, I already have a 3d puppet that I want to try to implement with this. Also this actually makes fight scenes possible. Thanks for the tip about creating a new dragging layer option for errors as well.
You guys are "off the chain". You never cease to amaze me. The creativity is extreme and I really admire the work you all do to help us improve our craft. Many thanks to you for the awesome video as well as the creative engineers. Be safe and well. Terri
It's crazy. I went back and forth with this tutorial. At first thinkin, "Yes, I need to watch this tutorial to get my V for Vendetta's puppet's cape to follow along my Right Arm when I lift it. But I second guesses my instinct. Turned out... YES!!! This is exactly the video I needed to watch to get the puppeteering to act right. THANKS DAVE, YOU DA MAN!!!
i love what you do...and right now I feel like I'm 10 years behind you in experience but man how well can someone actually explain something so perfectly? I really appreciate what you do sir. I hope I would creat something truly profound to impress the world.
Man, I love how innovative this team is to continue developing such cool features. People are making some great looking cartoons, and it's all thanks to the work being put into this software. I love that I can make cartoons without needing complicated tools or frame by frame
I’m in the middle of creating a ‘historic documentary’ using Character Animator. I’m turning the historical people into puppets. It’ll take a couple of weeks more to finish, but it’s coming out great!!!
Hey, Can you make a tutorial on complete rigging of body tracking from absolutely scratch? (On a completely unrigged puppet) That'd be really really helpful!
I believe he has a playlist that takes you through all of the processes for building and rigging. Usually there's a new video after a major update that runs you through the new options, but getting started hasn't change a whole lot over the years [with some exceptions].
This combined with body tracking will be a game changer with speeding up animation workflows! No more recording voice lines and head first and then doing a second or third take for just triggers and draggables!
Love these new features. Would LOVE to see Character Animator available on an M1 iPad Pro … the ability to hand draw characters and scenes and quickly bring those into Character Animator .. and to be able to utilize the Apple Pencil.
You could still use swap sets with this, but it would be a pretty heavy and complex system (imagine drawing each unique point, palm flip, etc for each position). If using a swap set I’d probably do a much more limited version of this, with maybe 3 arm positions max (down, out, up).
All of the examples I've seen include the hand as part of the art for the arm, but i use swap sets to change out the hands all the time. How would this work with swapping out the hands? open and closed, pointing, thumbs up, etc?
Each artwork instance would need its own hand swapset, and then you would need to add all of those instances to a trigger. So for example, I might have 10 right arm positions, each with a "hand" group inside, and each with default, point, closed, etc inside. Then I would make a hand swapset like normal, but add all those hand instances into each trigger - so a "point" trigger would have 10 layers listed in its "layers and replays" in the triggers panel. A little confusing but hope that makes sense!
Ok Samuarai, you rock! Thanks so much. I hope I get to meet you one day. I use your videos all the time and find daily inspiration from the stuff you do. Thank you. Quick question if you have time: in the Ai puppet file, I understand why there are 10 different phases for each arm. But what is the benefit of having “arm” and “sleeve” as two different layers within each phase folder?
Thanks for the kind words. I think that's just the way the artist set their artwork up, making it potentially easier to work on each asset individually. But if these were just one layer apiece it would still be totally fine.
what i think CH really needs is about 10 base body characters where we users can just change colors body clothing and fully be able to customize the characters ourselves with few clicks. Make it more user-friendly.I know new update has a costomizable user friendly mode, but it needs to be incorporated to main CH( very good start) Dont get me wrong creating from scratch is great, but not many are trying to dig around and create layers, tag them, etc. in any case Thanks Dave this is still huge improvement
Are there any plans to update these tutorials? some of them are out of date. I am currently rigging a puppet the same way and have run into some issues, first the arms still stretch as far as I drag the wrist despite every arm getting tagged with shoulder, elbow, and wrist. The other issue is that as I drag the wrist around in any way other than the arm outstretched, it either fails to change to follower I want or changes to one I don't because of how close together they are. I'm trying to use a puppet with 6 different arm sets on each side. Is there any way to create areas that limit what sets can swap in and out depending on where you drag the wrist?
Any tutorials that are out of date should say "Archived" in the title, but the main ones should still be accurate outside of some cosmetic changes. For the first issue, I'd rewatch the Limb IK tutorial to make sure everything is set up like the example there. And then for the auto-swap, I've found myself making extra arms to fill in all the inbetween states, because if things aren't switching it doesn't think things are different enough yet to swap to other artwork, so adding more layers can help with that. If the problems persist, please upload a video or screenshot of your issue to adobe.com/go/chfeedback and we'll try to help you out.
@@okaysamurai thanks, to be honest I'm starting to think Character Animator doesn't offer what I need, it's great for head turn and lip syncing, but I need more precise animation and with the absence of a bone tool and no way to just pose and key frame animation I may have to look elsewhere like Animate or After Effects. Though I am considering perhaps just drawing a set of arms in static poses and then using keys to swap between them that way i get the pose I want instantly every time. The animation won't be fluid but I've seen plenty of people pull it off like Nick Hodges over on History Buffs.
Wow just realized I can use this for animating guitar playing - I can have an auto-swap arm set behind a body group (with guitar neck) and can also have a hand above the body group with a follower behavior following the arm auto swap set - before I couldnt figure out how to have the arm behind the guitar and the hand in front of the guitar
I have auto swap set up on the right arm of my puppet but now that arm does not work with body tracking. Is there a way to add the body tracking feature onto the arm or can you only do one or the other?
I love it. I'm just learning the software. Do you have a single course start to finish? I can do some stuff but want more. If you want to pass this along, have Adobe create a cartoon character TTS program. No one has a good one that has fun, upbeat voices for characters and that would be awesome! Make it a standalone program to avoid server costs.
Thanks for keeping us updated and for making CH a better software for cartoon animation. When we can use the motion option? ( just applying the motion the character will move accordingly to the pose ). Is it possible to improve using multiple characters in same scene the current one is bit difficult and limited . Thanks again for the efforts.
Sorry not sure what you mean by motion - like motion trigger or motion lines, or maybe body tracking? If you need some more direct help the best place is Adobe.com/go/chfeedback.
My puppet switches arms (between the 2 drawings I have added) BUT once it switches to the 2nd drawing, I can no longer drag to move the arm so I can't have the puppet gesture and I can't get the first arm back. In fact, anytime I drag the arm, it snaps to the 2nd drawing immediately. Both wrist points are called HandR. I only have the first one tagged as Draggable. Could you include some troubleshooting tips to your videos??
Ah okay, sounds like an issue of where the draggable handles are. I would take a closer look at the example puppets and make sure your placements are the same as theirs. If the problem persists, please upload a video or screenshot of your issue to adobe.com/go/chfeedback and we'll try to help you out.
Do you have any tips on rotating wrists for example if you would have a praying mantis character with has to bend his scytes which aren't standard hands.
Oooh good question. I would probably do this via triggers and cycle layers to switch into different scythe positions to give myself the most control. I feel like there might be another way via the transform behavior and rotations, but triggers is probably the more professional/reliable way to do it.
I Like this new feature. It give you more of a controlled version of the cycle layers behavior where you can start and stop at any point. I may try this with legs might lead to actions such as Kicks if done right. I also like how it can lead to future developed features such as forward walking, to consistency on each view (Example you have a hand raised in front view, it maintains that when switching character views). However I feel like this feature is only limited or beneficial to a front view of a character. MY question is how this can be beneficial towards other character views?
While I think the easiest way to show the feature off is a front view, I think there’s a ton of creative possibilities that we haven’t even seen yet regardless of views. I’m really excited to see what people do with it once they dig into it - this is a super powerful feature!
@okaysamurai I also wanted to let you know that one of my videos really blew up in views (relatively speaking) and garnered over 6.4K views. And the crazy thing is that my character only moves his eye around (arrow keys function) and blinks twice (cycle layers behaviour). Ironicallly it's one of my videos I put the least of effort in.
Hi! I was wondering if for a puppet there's more than one layer in a limb like for example the upper arm and forearm are 2 different layers do I need to make the elbow on one of them a leader and the elbow on the other one a follower?
You can do either way. I would say most puppets have just one layer for the arms, but you could have two arm parts. Here's an example puppet with it split into 2 parts: drive.google.com/file/d/1jisq1hCruiniTMsiZIuUZAtv6brJ5mD1/view?usp=sharing
I would probably use the head/body turner behavior for that, or manually trigger all the states instead. Auto swap is more about something changing as it moves from one XY position to another, so the head and body are most likely going to share the same position and probably wouldn't work as well here.
Unfortunately I think all we have are the examples up at pages.adobe.com/character/en/autoswap, which I believe are mostly AI. The same rules should apply for PS, it's just the way grouping is done is a little different in the two apps - but the general structure and hierarchy should be the same. If you need some help and get stuck, please upload a screenshot, video, or your File > Export > Puppet file to the official forums at adobe.com/go/chfeedback so we can take a closer look.
Awesome feature! A true game changer there. For someone who's interested to make a "vtuber" model, one of the things is concerning is the fluidity, mainly the hair and head. Since I'm a newbie could you answer if the auto swap feature could make it more fluid? Because the head paralax and head motion still feels kinda "stiff", compared to Live 2D.
Auto swap can definitely make things more fluid, but you have to supply it with all the different artwork, and typically faster motions will look better and hide the artwork transitional "jumps." But I don't think it will give you a true smooth parallax look.
This feature is fantastic, but is there a way to have a swapset of hands inside a swappable auto triggered limb? That is the only thing i can't seem to do, but that might just be me!
You know, I haven't tried this yet, but I can't see why not. If each arm instance had a group of hands inside it, and each instance was under a single trigger (like maybe a "point" trigger will trigger all the points in all the instances simultaneously), it should work. But if the problem persists, please upload a screenshot, video, or your File > Export > Puppet file to the official forums at adobe.com/go/chfeedback so we can take a closer look.
@@okaysamurai thanks Dave, it works like a charm. I was overcomplicating it but you've solved the problem. Really opens up the auto swap tool with that additional bit!
Hi dave Love your videos I kinda new of this programe So My verison is 22.4 Does not featuring Auto Swap Is this feature only available in the newest versions? Thanks for answer
Hi I tested the Armando puppet and noticed he can but at the same time technically can not wave. In the sense that he's only able to wave with a fully stretched out arm and not with a bent elbow. So he's kinda confined to the artwork that is given to him. If I wanted to have the puppet wave like a "normal person" what is the best thing to do in that case?
Two options: 1) draw in and rig additional arms in the areas where you want the arms/elbows to look a certain way, or 2) avoid this method and just do normal arm rigging.
No set date yet, it depends on the feedback we get and what we need to work on - I’m hopeful it would be quicker than the end of the year, but no promises!
Hi David. I have gotten a lot from your videos. I have a problem though. My character animator does not give me a leader/follower behavior tag option. It just doesn't seem to exist. The good people at adobe haven't been able to help me either. I don't know if you have come across this bug yet. But would sure love some help. Even using the armando puppet is impossible. When put into scene his arms do not even appear.
Newbie Question...What is the suggested best method of setting up a keyboard trigger to have a arm/hand point to a different location? For example I want to have a trigger to point at the 'first bullet point' on the screen, another to point at the 'second bullet' point...so as the vo plays and refers to a specific point, I can hit a key to trigger the point that is being discussed. Many thanks!
Looks Amazing..thank you.. I don't see 'Womford" on the home screen of new Beta App though .. where is best place to discuss beta issues? It's an amazing program.
Wampler will only appear in the very latest beta update, make sure you have the latest via the cc desktop app. There is a link to the beta forums for feedback on the auto swap website mentioned in this video - please let us know what you think!
The best you can do right now is 3D files exported/flattened to a PSD like Red Monster 3D on the bottom of pages.adobe.com/character/en/puppets. I agree, OBJ support would be awesome. Maybe one day...
@@okaysamurai Thank you so much for your reply! Yeah.. I've been tinkering with the 3ds max to photoshop idea.. but I was just thinking that it would be great to be able to animate 3d characters LIVE! And thanks for all the great tutorials!
Sure, you could record poses for a rigged character and go to File > Export > Frame to export an image. But you would probably be better off using something like Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator or Fresco to do that.
Your tutorials are awesome @Okay Samurai! Could you please please do a tutorial for creating a character from scratch in Photoshop. You did a really great tutorial on how to adjust a prebuilt character but I would love to see how the file directory has to be broken up so it can be imported. Thank you so much for what you'e taught us.
This one is a bit outdated but I think it still works: th-cam.com/video/-2ABEoQ1Vhw/w-d-xo.html. I'm working on a new rigging tutorial soon, hope to have it out next month!
Hie, so I've been going through your videos and there are some which were confusing but most of them are very clear but for the life of me I still don't know how I could make a sad mouth. I do understand that different characters have different triggers but that's very limiting. Is there some way I could borrow a sad mouth from the other characters or something. I have been searching for days now. There are some essentials and I think Sad Mouth shape is an essential every character should have don't you think?
Woooow, this is amazing. I kept wondering if this was possible somehow. I don’t really use body tracking partly because of this arm swapping thing. Otherwise I need to use a Bluetooth number pad and hit triggers every time an arm raises. Can’t wait to use this! Also can’t wait to see all the ways it can be tricked out to do other things. So I guess puppets with arms/etc setup with this won’t work in the regular version until it’s permanent huh?
Thanks! Yes, we're in beta now and looking for feedback, but you can absolutely use the beta for production work - just note that things can change sometimes on a daily basis. We hope to add it to the full shipping version sometime this year.
@@okaysamurai Awesome! good thing is I already have most of the hands and puppet parts since Ive been messing around with after effects. But Ive been looking at your vids on character animator and it looks very powerfulf!
Hello, I am new with adobe character and I don't know why but in behaviors section there is not follow/leader, I don't know why it is like this would you please tell me why it is like this.
@@okaysamuraiok, thank you so much for responding sir, I appreciate it 👍 I am from afg and i watch all of your videos, your videos are great and so comprehensive, thank you again sir
Please add paralax effect and 3d spacing layers if possible (forground and background), and also the parappa the rappa flat 3d paperlike effect to take full advantage of the bones and joints mechanisim. Your system i feel would be an entry to the mocap 3d in the future- for facial animation and body animation. Does this work well also with the kinrect camera for capturing or it isnt necessary to use it?
Kinect isn't necessary, any webcam will work. You can do a lot of 3D spacing in After Effects, which is what we would recommend for that kind of compositing (dynamic link your CH character into AE and use 3D layers).
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Unrelated to this video but i have to say it. What you do here is amazing and i hope people at adobe take notice of this. Because AE and PR users feel absolutely left alone and not supported at all. Seeing that here is a tool with its own "representative" producing content, answering questions, taking notes and feature requests, discusses upcoming features and statuses is an amazing thing.
it's almost always you coming out with one of these videos describing an exciting new feature that gives me all kinds of inspiration for a new animation...
This is the most game changing thing ever. Along with triggered swap sets, I already have a 3d puppet that I want to try to implement with this. Also this actually makes fight scenes possible. Thanks for the tip about creating a new dragging layer option for errors as well.
Thanks for the plug and opportunity, Dave! Creating "Armando" was a super-fun challenge. Hope he comes in "handy" for folks out there :)
You guys are "off the chain". You never cease to amaze me. The creativity is extreme and I really admire the work you all do to help us improve our craft.
Many thanks to you for the awesome video as well as the creative engineers. Be safe and well.
Terri
This is a game changer! Amazing!
It's crazy. I went back and forth with this tutorial. At first thinkin, "Yes, I need to watch this tutorial to get my V for Vendetta's puppet's cape to follow along my Right Arm when I lift it. But I second guesses my instinct. Turned out... YES!!! This is exactly the video I needed to watch to get the puppeteering to act right. THANKS DAVE, YOU DA MAN!!!
i love what you do...and right now I feel like I'm 10 years behind you in experience but man how well can someone actually explain something so perfectly? I really appreciate what you do sir. I hope I would creat something truly profound to impress the world.
Man, I love how innovative this team is to continue developing such cool features. People are making some great looking cartoons, and it's all thanks to the work being put into this software. I love that I can make cartoons without needing complicated tools or frame by frame
Ooooh I love this! What an awesome feature :D
I’m in the middle of creating a ‘historic documentary’ using Character Animator. I’m turning the historical people into puppets. It’ll take a couple of weeks more to finish, but it’s coming out great!!!
Incredible!! I've been wanting this sort of thing to be implimented for ages and I cannot wait to play! It's SO COOL, thank you!!
Hey,
Can you make a tutorial on complete rigging of body tracking from absolutely scratch? (On a completely unrigged puppet)
That'd be really really helpful!
I believe he has a playlist that takes you through all of the processes for building and rigging. Usually there's a new video after a major update that runs you through the new options, but getting started hasn't change a whole lot over the years [with some exceptions].
I’m hoping to cover this in a future rigging tutorial. Stay tuned!
This combined with body tracking will be a game changer with speeding up animation workflows! No more recording voice lines and head first and then doing a second or third take for just triggers and draggables!
Love these new features. Would LOVE to see Character Animator available on an M1 iPad Pro … the ability to hand draw characters and scenes and quickly bring those into Character Animator .. and to be able to utilize the Apple Pencil.
Now we need a two or three person talk show setup discussing sports at the same time. That would be epic and funny.
right
this software never ceases to amaze me
Been waiting since you teased this and boy oh boy, you did not disappoint. This is the holy grail. Amazing! Great job! Thank you!
I love it already
My only concern is how will swap sets for different hand gestures work?
You could still use swap sets with this, but it would be a pretty heavy and complex system (imagine drawing each unique point, palm flip, etc for each position). If using a swap set I’d probably do a much more limited version of this, with maybe 3 arm positions max (down, out, up).
OMG it is amazing
You keep surprising me with wonderful new options. Many, many thanks!
This is awesome. I'm glad the team is always keeping it fresh!
So much information in one video! I'm trying to create a TH-cam learning channel using Adobe Character Animator, this video is very helpful.
You are a great teacher. Thank you.
All of the examples I've seen include the hand as part of the art for the arm, but i use swap sets to change out the hands all the time. How would this work with swapping out the hands? open and closed, pointing, thumbs up, etc?
Each artwork instance would need its own hand swapset, and then you would need to add all of those instances to a trigger. So for example, I might have 10 right arm positions, each with a "hand" group inside, and each with default, point, closed, etc inside. Then I would make a hand swapset like normal, but add all those hand instances into each trigger - so a "point" trigger would have 10 layers listed in its "layers and replays" in the triggers panel. A little confusing but hope that makes sense!
Ok Samuarai, you rock! Thanks so much. I hope I get to meet you one day. I use your videos all the time and find daily inspiration from the stuff you do. Thank you.
Quick question if you have time: in the Ai puppet file, I understand why there are 10 different phases for each arm. But what is the benefit of having “arm” and “sleeve” as two different layers within each phase folder?
Thanks for the kind words. I think that's just the way the artist set their artwork up, making it potentially easier to work on each asset individually. But if these were just one layer apiece it would still be totally fine.
this is awesome!! can I use auto swap for parallax head movement ? like change the nose angle when the face turn left/right?
I've tried it and I feel like the results are pretty choppy. I think the head turner behavior and/or parallax work better currently.
This is amazing! Exactly what I have been looking for in this program. Excellent guys!
Holy crap that's smooth! Nice job team!
MATE THIS IS GAME CHANGING!!!!
Well done guys! Another game changer from the team!
what i think CH really needs is about 10 base body characters where we users can just change colors body clothing and fully be able to customize the characters ourselves with few clicks. Make it more user-friendly.I know new update has a costomizable user friendly mode, but it needs to be incorporated to main CH( very good start) Dont get me wrong creating from scratch is great, but not many are trying to dig around and create layers, tag them, etc. in any case Thanks Dave this is still huge improvement
Are there any plans to update these tutorials? some of them are out of date. I am currently rigging a puppet the same way and have run into some issues, first the arms still stretch as far as I drag the wrist despite every arm getting tagged with shoulder, elbow, and wrist. The other issue is that as I drag the wrist around in any way other than the arm outstretched, it either fails to change to follower I want or changes to one I don't because of how close together they are. I'm trying to use a puppet with 6 different arm sets on each side. Is there any way to create areas that limit what sets can swap in and out depending on where you drag the wrist?
Any tutorials that are out of date should say "Archived" in the title, but the main ones should still be accurate outside of some cosmetic changes. For the first issue, I'd rewatch the Limb IK tutorial to make sure everything is set up like the example there. And then for the auto-swap, I've found myself making extra arms to fill in all the inbetween states, because if things aren't switching it doesn't think things are different enough yet to swap to other artwork, so adding more layers can help with that. If the problems persist, please upload a video or screenshot of your issue to adobe.com/go/chfeedback and we'll try to help you out.
@@okaysamurai thanks, to be honest I'm starting to think Character Animator doesn't offer what I need, it's great for head turn and lip syncing, but I need more precise animation and with the absence of a bone tool and no way to just pose and key frame animation I may have to look elsewhere like Animate or After Effects. Though I am considering perhaps just drawing a set of arms in static poses and then using keys to swap between them that way i get the pose I want instantly every time. The animation won't be fluid but I've seen plenty of people pull it off like Nick Hodges over on History Buffs.
Yeah for your needs AN or AE may be better. Both are more complex than CH but I think it sounds like you're looking for that level of control.
Just keeps on getting better and better 👌🏽👌🏽🔥🔥
Wow!! This is really cool!!
Your videos are awesome and this feature is really cool… opens up possibilities for for example a forward walk cycle….
Wow just realized I can use this for animating guitar playing - I can have an auto-swap arm set behind a body group (with guitar neck) and can also have a hand above the body group with a follower behavior following the arm auto swap set - before I couldnt figure out how to have the arm behind the guitar and the hand in front of the guitar
Hello Sir, I can't find Leader or Follower 😢 in Adobe Character Animator 2022
You'll need to update to the latest version, 2024.
@@okaysamurai Okay Thank you Sir.
Oh, I was waiting for that for a while, tough with midi bypass methods
Crazy good, I love the new feature.
This awesome. I've been wishing for this to be implemented.
Your vids are the Best !
Oh man. This is excellent!
Very informative thank you!
This is amazing...I always find my projects ahead of these awesome developments though lol
Coming through like always! Hopefully beta works again now for me now that it's been a couple months🤞🏽
I have auto swap set up on the right arm of my puppet but now that arm does not work with body tracking. Is there a way to add the body tracking feature onto the arm or can you only do one or the other?
Can't remember for sure but yes, I believe you can only pick one or the other. Sometimes behaviors unfortunately don't work well together.
This is crazy! Amazing!
I love it. I'm just learning the software. Do you have a single course start to finish? I can do some stuff but want more. If you want to pass this along, have Adobe create a cartoon character TTS program. No one has a good one that has fun, upbeat voices for characters and that would be awesome! Make it a standalone program to avoid server costs.
I don't, but the complete workflow tutorials are probably the best: th-cam.com/play/PLq4LynfF_r15MB40HNeLSw8Rebrd8os9D.html
Great video
Thanks for keeping us updated and for making CH a better software for cartoon animation.
When we can use the motion option? ( just applying the motion the character will move accordingly to the pose ).
Is it possible to improve using multiple characters in same scene the current one is bit difficult and limited .
Thanks again for the efforts.
Sorry not sure what you mean by motion - like motion trigger or motion lines, or maybe body tracking? If you need some more direct help the best place is Adobe.com/go/chfeedback.
My puppet switches arms (between the 2 drawings I have added) BUT once it switches to the 2nd drawing, I can no longer drag to move the arm so I can't have the puppet gesture and I can't get the first arm back. In fact, anytime I drag the arm, it snaps to the 2nd drawing immediately. Both wrist points are called HandR. I only have the first one tagged as Draggable. Could you include some troubleshooting tips to your videos??
Ah okay, sounds like an issue of where the draggable handles are. I would take a closer look at the example puppets and make sure your placements are the same as theirs. If the problem persists, please upload a video or screenshot of your issue to adobe.com/go/chfeedback and we'll try to help you out.
Killer. Definitely a game changer
Did I hear someone say....GAME Changer!!! That's pretty sweet!
Do you have any tips on rotating wrists for example if you would have a praying mantis character with has to bend his scytes which aren't standard hands.
Oooh good question. I would probably do this via triggers and cycle layers to switch into different scythe positions to give myself the most control. I feel like there might be another way via the transform behavior and rotations, but triggers is probably the more professional/reliable way to do it.
Thank you so much
I Like this new feature. It give you more of a controlled version of the cycle layers behavior where you can start and stop at any point. I may try this with legs might lead to actions such as Kicks if done right. I also like how it can lead to future developed features such as forward walking, to consistency on each view (Example you have a hand raised in front view, it maintains that when switching character views). However I feel like this feature is only limited or beneficial to a front view of a character. MY question is how this can be beneficial towards other character views?
While I think the easiest way to show the feature off is a front view, I think there’s a ton of creative possibilities that we haven’t even seen yet regardless of views. I’m really excited to see what people do with it once they dig into it - this is a super powerful feature!
@@okaysamurai I’m more impressed you were able to have these movements be implemented on an XYZ axis.
Any difference between using a regular point and labeling Draggable vs using a Draggable point?
They're the exact same - the icon/tool is just a shortcut to get you there!
wow is the better feature
@okaysamurai I also wanted to let you know that one of my videos really blew up in views (relatively speaking) and garnered over 6.4K views. And the crazy thing is that my character only moves his eye around (arrow keys function) and blinks twice (cycle layers behaviour). Ironicallly it's one of my videos I put the least of effort in.
Haha congrats!
Hi! I was wondering if for a puppet there's more than one layer in a limb like for example the upper arm and forearm are 2 different layers do I need to make the elbow on one of them a leader and the elbow on the other one a follower?
You can do either way. I would say most puppets have just one layer for the arms, but you could have two arm parts. Here's an example puppet with it split into 2 parts: drive.google.com/file/d/1jisq1hCruiniTMsiZIuUZAtv6brJ5mD1/view?usp=sharing
I was wondering, if you want to make a puppet have body turning should that be done with auto swap or is there an actual way to do it?
I would instead use the "Head and Body Turner" behavior. You tag each view and then can swap between views based on your head and/or body rotation.
OMG YES!!! It's like you HEARD ME!!!
nice got it up and running making next yoffga lessen
Will this work to make a character turn around to face the background, or spin in a 180?
I would probably use the head/body turner behavior for that, or manually trigger all the states instead. Auto swap is more about something changing as it moves from one XY position to another, so the head and body are most likely going to share the same position and probably wouldn't work as well here.
Do you happen to have a Photoshop sample laying around? I wanna know where I have to put my artwork in which layer etc.
Unfortunately I think all we have are the examples up at pages.adobe.com/character/en/autoswap, which I believe are mostly AI. The same rules should apply for PS, it's just the way grouping is done is a little different in the two apps - but the general structure and hierarchy should be the same. If you need some help and get stuck, please upload a screenshot, video, or your File > Export > Puppet file to the official forums at adobe.com/go/chfeedback so we can take a closer look.
@@okaysamurai Okay thnx!!
Thank you sir
Awesome feature! A true game changer there.
For someone who's interested to make a "vtuber" model, one of the things is concerning is the fluidity, mainly the hair and head.
Since I'm a newbie could you answer if the auto swap feature could make it more fluid?
Because the head paralax and head motion still feels kinda "stiff", compared to Live 2D.
Auto swap can definitely make things more fluid, but you have to supply it with all the different artwork, and typically faster motions will look better and hide the artwork transitional "jumps." But I don't think it will give you a true smooth parallax look.
@@okaysamurai Thank you! I will try the parallax for a less complex model then.
This feature is fantastic, but is there a way to have a swapset of hands inside a swappable auto triggered limb? That is the only thing i can't seem to do, but that might just be me!
You know, I haven't tried this yet, but I can't see why not. If each arm instance had a group of hands inside it, and each instance was under a single trigger (like maybe a "point" trigger will trigger all the points in all the instances simultaneously), it should work. But if the problem persists, please upload a screenshot, video, or your File > Export > Puppet file to the official forums at adobe.com/go/chfeedback so we can take a closer look.
@@okaysamurai thanks Dave, it works like a charm. I was overcomplicating it but you've solved the problem. Really opens up the auto swap tool with that additional bit!
Hi dave Love your videos I kinda new of this programe So My verison is 22.4 Does not featuring Auto Swap
Is this feature only available in the newest versions? Thanks for answer
I don't remember when exactly it was added in, but version 23.1 is the latest and I know it has it there.
@@okaysamuraithankss 😊
Hi I tested the Armando puppet and noticed he can but at the same time technically can not wave. In the sense that he's only able to wave with a fully stretched out arm and not with a bent elbow. So he's kinda confined to the artwork that is given to him. If I wanted to have the puppet wave like a "normal person" what is the best thing to do in that case?
Two options: 1) draw in and rig additional arms in the areas where you want the arms/elbows to look a certain way, or 2) avoid this method and just do normal arm rigging.
@@okaysamurai Okay thank you!!
Holy crap that's amazing.
Can we import mp4 videos into character animator? I'm sick of having to import massive png sequence files.
Not yet - for now I would do that in Premiere or After Effects with dynamic link.
This is fabulous! Roughly what is the timeframe to making a beta into production? This isn't going to be October, is it?
No set date yet, it depends on the feedback we get and what we need to work on - I’m hopeful it would be quicker than the end of the year, but no promises!
@@okaysamurai Thanks. I'll try it out and get back to you. It looks like a great feature.
wow incredible!
Hey, how to make our character dance please make a tutorial on that if possible.
Body tracking is probably the best direction there, I do a lot of dancing: th-cam.com/video/gWBLAcTWH5Q/w-d-xo.html
This is definitely a time saver! When is this officially out? Been enjoying the body tracker feature
Hopefully sometime this year, but no ETA yet.
Hi David. I have gotten a lot from your videos. I have a problem though. My character animator does not give me a leader/follower behavior tag option. It just doesn't seem to exist. The good people at adobe haven't been able to help me either. I don't know if you have come across this bug yet. But would sure love some help. Even using the armando puppet is impossible. When put into scene his arms do not even appear.
Are you using CH Beta? If you try to use this in the main shipping app it won't work (yet).
Newbie Question...What is the suggested best method of setting up a keyboard trigger to have a arm/hand point to a different location?
For example I want to have a trigger to point at the 'first bullet point' on the screen, another to point at the 'second bullet' point...so as the vo plays and refers to a specific point, I can hit a key to trigger the point that is being discussed.
Many thanks!
You want replays! th-cam.com/video/mZioGOAt8RE/w-d-xo.html
@@okaysamurai Thanks so much!
I don't see the leader and follower on behavior anything I need to do to make it show? tia
Make sure you're using CH Beta. See the website in the video description for more info.
Amazing work!
Looks Amazing..thank you.. I don't see 'Womford" on the home screen of new Beta App though .. where is best place to discuss beta issues? It's an amazing program.
Wampler will only appear in the very latest beta update, make sure you have the latest via the cc desktop app. There is a link to the beta forums for feedback on the auto swap website mentioned in this video - please let us know what you think!
How do I raise the hands at the same time without recording two different dragging actions?
Drag the hands into position, record for 1 second, extend takes and use blend handles on the edges to blend in/out.
@@okaysamurai Ok makes sense thank you
Is there any talk of being able to use 3-D elements within the software? I would love to be able to use a character OBJ in Creator!
The best you can do right now is 3D files exported/flattened to a PSD like Red Monster 3D on the bottom of pages.adobe.com/character/en/puppets. I agree, OBJ support would be awesome. Maybe one day...
@@okaysamurai Thank you so much for your reply! Yeah.. I've been tinkering with the 3ds max to photoshop idea.. but I was just thinking that it would be great to be able to animate 3d characters LIVE! And thanks for all the great tutorials!
i dont see leader/Follower anymore in adobe Chareter Animater illustrator
This is a beta preview, it is only in the beta app currently. See the beta section of adobe.com/go/ch_autoswap to learn more.
Curious, is this still in Beta or you can do this in the latest update?
This is now in the current release!
I DO NOT HAVE THE LEADER & FOLLOWER ON MY VERSION 22.1.1
As I say in the video, It's still in beta: adobe.com/go/ch_autoswap
Why I can't see "leader and follower"
Behaviour in my Adobe character animator 2021?
Because it was added later - update to the latest version (2023) to see it.
Ooook , Thanks! :)
YES!
wich version do you use?I have ch 2020 and i don't find the leader/follower behaviour.
We're on version 2023 now. You'll need to update to the latest to use this.
ok thanks@@okaysamurai
Oh yes :) now that is what I'm talking bout!
Can i use this program to create still images for book illustrations?
Sure, you could record poses for a rigged character and go to File > Export > Frame to export an image. But you would probably be better off using something like Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator or Fresco to do that.
Your tutorials are awesome @Okay Samurai! Could you please please do a tutorial for creating a character from scratch in Photoshop. You did a really great tutorial on how to adjust a prebuilt character but I would love to see how the file directory has to be broken up so it can be imported. Thank you so much for what you'e taught us.
This one is a bit outdated but I think it still works: th-cam.com/video/-2ABEoQ1Vhw/w-d-xo.html. I'm working on a new rigging tutorial soon, hope to have it out next month!
@@okaysamurai Thank you so so much for your kindness and knowledge. Both your responses as well as these tutorials helped me a great deal.
@@okaysamurai th-cam.com/users/shortsnjlgwoGfo9Q?feature=share
Awesome!
Can I use these downloadable character in my video withou copyright issue?
Yep! th-cam.com/video/7pgm_u4VkQk/w-d-xo.html
Hie, so I've been going through your videos and there are some which were confusing but most of them are very clear but for the life of me I still don't know how I could make a sad mouth. I do understand that different characters have different triggers but that's very limiting. Is there some way I could borrow a sad mouth from the other characters or something. I have been searching for days now. There are some essentials and I think Sad Mouth shape is an essential every character should have don't you think?
Try this: th-cam.com/video/JL024_E1AUk/w-d-xo.html
Woooow, this is amazing. I kept wondering if this was possible somehow. I don’t really use body tracking partly because of this arm swapping thing. Otherwise I need to use a Bluetooth number pad and hit triggers every time an arm raises. Can’t wait to use this! Also can’t wait to see all the ways it can be tricked out to do other things. So I guess puppets with arms/etc setup with this won’t work in the regular version until it’s permanent huh?
Thanks! Yes, we're in beta now and looking for feedback, but you can absolutely use the beta for production work - just note that things can change sometimes on a daily basis. We hope to add it to the full shipping version sometime this year.
@@okaysamurai Has this been added yet?
This is amazing! Could there be sub sets of swaps for example for multiple hand positions per arm position?
Yep! Would require a lot of extra drawing but totally possible!
@@okaysamurai Awesome! good thing is I already have most of the hands and puppet parts since Ive been messing around with after effects. But Ive been looking at your vids on character animator and it looks very powerfulf!
Hello, I am new with adobe character and I don't know why but in behaviors section there is not follow/leader, I don't know why it is like this would you please tell me why it is like this.
Do you have the latest version (23.1)? It was added in recent versions.
@@okaysamurai Actually I have the 2020 version of it. Does this version have it???
Unfortunately no, I believe this was added in 2022.
@@okaysamuraiok, thank you so much for responding sir, I appreciate it 👍
I am from afg and i watch all of your videos, your videos are great and so comprehensive, thank you again sir
Please add paralax effect and 3d spacing layers if possible (forground and background), and also the parappa the rappa flat 3d paperlike effect to take full advantage of the bones and joints mechanisim. Your system i feel would be an entry to the mocap 3d in the future- for facial animation and body animation. Does this work well also with the kinrect camera for capturing or it isnt necessary to use it?
Kinect isn't necessary, any webcam will work. You can do a lot of 3D spacing in After Effects, which is what we would recommend for that kind of compositing (dynamic link your CH character into AE and use 3D layers).
@@okaysamurai noted thank you very much