The story behind Chopin's most UNDERRATED Piece

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  • @laneotaku7855
    @laneotaku7855 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    That piece is crazy, maybe it's not recognized by it's high difficult level

    • @classicallpvault8251
      @classicallpvault8251 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That didn't stop the Hammerklavier sonata, Gaspard de la Nuit, the Paganini Variations, or several of the late and barely tonal Scriabin sonatas from becoming standard repertoire and all these works are substantially more difficult. Chopin's 3rd piano sonata is also harder yet also one of his most widely recorded and performed works.

  • @federicojulian3165
    @federicojulian3165 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Beautiful video! It's really a shame we don't hear about this work much often, truly a hidden gem. Keep up the good work, bro!

  • @dunkleosteus430
    @dunkleosteus430 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I remember reading that this was one of the pieces he was really proud of, which wasn't common for him.

    • @dunkleosteus430
      @dunkleosteus430 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oh, I was in the first minute of the video when I commented this, looks like you covered it.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@dunkleosteus430I did ahahaha

  • @XPKpianist
    @XPKpianist วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It’s one hell of a piece. Definitely one of the hardest solo pieces along with Op.2

  • @Turunflo
    @Turunflo ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks you. This and Op. 52 are my favorites pieces of all time. This pieces is almost jazz. I love this one. Is like an orchestra. I love to play the Op. 46 :D It deserves everything. I actually think this is the hardest pieces by Chopin. Those bars with rapid descending thirds and stuff are insane and pulling out the melody line over a second voice, like the Op. 10 No. 3, having that distance between notes is crazy.
    Btw, listen Arrau playing this. Is soooooo -
    6:18 is literally one of my favorite moments in music history.

  • @thisismoyukhsworld2022
    @thisismoyukhsworld2022 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This piece is said to be revived by the "Spanish Chopin", aka Enrique Granados. In fact Granados Op 46 is also Allegro de Concierto, thus dedicated to Chopin.

    • @Xantares2003
      @Xantares2003 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like Granados, and both "op 46"s

  • @chainuser1774
    @chainuser1774 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its an amazing piece. The theme that starts around the 4 min mark is one of Chopins most beautiful moments. Crazy how little appreciated Allegro De Concert is.

  • @thegreenpianist7683
    @thegreenpianist7683 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This was thought to be the first movement of a concerto that he ultimately decided not to go through with. It's also low-key one of the most, if not the most difficult Chopin piece.

    • @annulrsolformrkelse4023
      @annulrsolformrkelse4023 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      hey there :D

    • @thegreenpianist7683
      @thegreenpianist7683 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@annulrsolformrkelse4023 Hey!

    • @charlescg3904
      @charlescg3904 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I find it easier to sightread than his 1st concerto, but I can see how there’s more room for slip ups

  • @Martill3
    @Martill3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Great video! There is also a Neuhaus recording that I like a lot.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Martill3 thanks! I'll check it out

  • @RhodesyYT
    @RhodesyYT วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    YES THE ALLEGRO DE CONCERT WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

  • @littlesloth1384
    @littlesloth1384 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I've been a Chopin listener for over a decade and I thought I know all of his pieces... until now. Thank you for sharing!

    • @yuiop987
      @yuiop987 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, thought I knew all his pieces...

  • @classicallpvault8251
    @classicallpvault8251 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One of my favourite Chopin works, and one which I've played myself many years ago. It's not due to its difficulty level that this is largely ignored as the 2nd and 3rd piano sonatas are both more difficult. This is probably somewhere around the level of Ballade no.4 or the Polonaise-Fantaisie (the latter of which I've also learned) and they're some of his most widely performed works. It's very cheerful in nature but never gets frivolous and contains some very impressive displays of virtuoso firework.
    Far harder pieces on the standard repertoire are recorded umpteen times. Take Schumann's Symphonic Etudes, Brahms' Paganini Variations, the Hammerklavier Sonata and the Diabelli Variations by Beethoven, Schubert's Wanderer-Fantasie etc. Or probably the most scary standard repertoire work of them all, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. Even plenty of second rate pianists have done CD recordings of these works.

  • @aleksanderkalicki5518
    @aleksanderkalicki5518 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video! I look forward to watching other videos like this one.

  • @EggMCMUFFIN-e4l
    @EggMCMUFFIN-e4l วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Chopin was musically superior than any other of his time. He didn’t need any other instrument as he mastered the piano as an instrument

  • @林柏辰-m7i
    @林柏辰-m7i วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Actually I think every work by Chopin is sublime
    Maybe not as great as his most greatest works
    But they deserve to be read and play

  • @PianistDanielFritzen
    @PianistDanielFritzen ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Well, Chopin's quote that he was going to perform it in "free Warsow" only testifies to the heroic character of its March-like theme.

  • @samaritan29
    @samaritan29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    please do a video on his cello sonata, his late period masterpiece that is seldom talked about on YT.

    • @Dylan_1344
      @Dylan_1344 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s not a bad piece, I have thought about playing it but just like his piano sonatas, they’re are so musically complicated

  • @A_Random_Pianist
    @A_Random_Pianist วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brian Ganz’s performance is also lovely!

    • @Xantares2003
      @Xantares2003 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He plays with such passion

  • @parmenioboronat37
    @parmenioboronat37 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This one feels like a 'I am making sure you have played my whole set of études' piece.

  • @alessandropelizzoli6613
    @alessandropelizzoli6613 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good idea to talk a bit about this so neglected piece, a real gem by Chopin, even if the story of its creation was not so happy...surely it is a very original creation in its genre, replete with a very particular blend of romantic and post-biedermeier virtuosity full of brilliance in agility passages and great melodramatic style in cantabile moments...
    Thanks a lot but...please...for this Concert Allegro ...Arrau is the best!!!!!

  • @Xantares2003
    @Xantares2003 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought why this piece is so underrated, but it's so difficult tho.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    very cool

  • @Camille_Hargraves
    @Camille_Hargraves วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, I really hear there a background orchestra sometimes in my head. Maybe I'll make a real orchestration, but i'm a bit bad at this stuff I think

  • @Farahmand1010
    @Farahmand1010 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ce n'est pas un grand chef-d'œuvre, tout simplement.

  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my opinion, op. 2 is his most underrated piece, although this one is a close second.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wouldn't say that... At Chopin time Op 2 was the piece that really started Chopin career.
      After hearing it Robert Schumann said the famous words "Hats off gentlemen, a genius!"

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Alessandro.h Yes, that was then, but nowadays nobody really knows it and it is rarely played.

  • @VittoKui
    @VittoKui วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ballade 3 is so underrated also

    • @jacobgerardy630
      @jacobgerardy630 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Horowitz's interpretation is absolutely amazing. Rarely can you make Chopin sound "thunderous" appropriately, and he absolutely did

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Out of mastery...

  • @MicheleAngeliniTenor
    @MicheleAngeliniTenor วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad someone discusses this great piece...but please, so many mispronounced words! "de concert" is in French, "concerto" has a ch sound and not an s, Polish and polish are not the same, and even Ashkenazy was not pronounced correctly, among others.

  • @Hjominbonrun
    @Hjominbonrun วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like Beethoven.

  • @miguelisaurusbruh1158
    @miguelisaurusbruh1158 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Neew suuub

  • @bassodivo1
    @bassodivo1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its Chopins most boring unmemorable peice

  • @robertgreene2684
    @robertgreene2684 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Conserto? What is this? Ballade pronounced as ballad?

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah the pronunciation is off-putting. It doesn't make any sense except in French

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ah. It's likely an automated voice read. It's also a "polish composer" instead of "Polish composer" at 2:14

    • @ik-now178
      @ik-now178 วันที่ผ่านมา

      voice is ai generated

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@seheytAhaha I didn't even notice that one about Polish composer
      Anyway yes, the AI voice has some really strange pronunciation sometimes

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Anyway, I find that conserto is alright, it's just the english pronunciation...
      I am Italian, and a looot of other italian therms are mispronounced by even great pianists and important figures, and I don't think that's annoying... Not everyone speaks Italian.

  • @bifeldman
    @bifeldman วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The narration must be AI generated.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is not, the voice is AI but the narration is 100% human

    • @mbashirov1
      @mbashirov1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Alessandro.hwhat do you mean the voice is AI but the narration is human, they’d mean the same here. Do you mean the text is written by a human?

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mbashirov1 yep, I mean the text is written by human

  • @Mr.Dziej72
    @Mr.Dziej72 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great information -- terrible AI voice/pronunciation.