Back when the knights exploded into the finals I remember saying that this was tree's most impressive jinxing effort ever. He was just stating the blatantly obvious, This expansion team will suck in its first year of existence, a given in the world of professional sports... and what do you know the FIRST expansion team in tree's youtube tenure just so happens to be great... despite how incredible that jinx was... I do vaguely remember tree coming out with a praising video for the knights. "Everything they have touched has turned to gold thus far and I'm actually starting to really like them as a team moving forward. Will I admit that I was totally wrong?... not yet. It's very early in their history and the REAL test of their staying power will be 3-4 years down the road." - UT, Revisiting... The Vegas Golden Knights...a video from 4 years ago.... Tree... what did you do?
@@UrinatingTree whatever you do don't touch the red wings we're finally turning a corner and if we mess this coaching hire up I will cry for a very long time so please don't jinx us
First he jinxed them into going to the Cup (and probably winning it if they hadn't been stood in the way of by a vastly superior Washington Capitals team) with "The Vegas Golden Knights: Why?" and then jinxed them again by making management into the useless shit pile it is now with "Revisiting... The Vegas Golden Knights".
What makes the Pacioretty trade even worse is that not only did McPhee favor Glass more, but Montreal did as well, but he convinced them to take Suzuki instead EDIT: Welp, now they’ve gone from Nick Suzuki to Pacioretty to… future considerations? Elite asset management
Different sport but in 2002 the Boston Celtics traded Joe Johnson to the Phoenix Suns and the Suns wanted Kedrick Brown. General manager Chris Wallace talked the Suns into taking Johnson. Brown was out of the league a year later and Johnson just retired TWENTY years later after being a star in Phoenix and Atlanta.
The new NICK SUZUKI extension is absolutely terrible. MTL won the trade with Pac but not trading Suzuki before his extension made it so it didnt matter. 7.8 mill per year to a guy that has not been a point a game player even once is INSANITY.
The Knights upper management with their actions have essentially said that they don't care about chemistry or loyalty or the actual human emotions of their players. As long as they get back to the Cup, that's all that matters. They neglected to realize that team unity and chemistry was a major factor in the success in their inaugural season. They've become more soulless, cutthroat, and unlikable every year since and the product has suffered as a result.
Vegas lost me the minute they fired Gerard Gallant. That was infuriating. He had the respect of the locker room! He was the coach necessary to get back to the cup.
The Vegas Knights got me into hockey, and I can’t believe how badly the organization has mismanaged such a perfect situation. It’s embarrassing being a fan. I’ve never felt like this as a SF 49ers, Giants, or Warriors fan, even when each of these teams were bottom of the barrel losers. Not every move was bad! Patches and Stone were amazing gets that we don’t regret. The 3 big moves that totally screwed us: Firing Gallant Signing Pietrangelo Trading Fleury Gallant wasn’t fired for performance, but because he clashed with Foley and the GM… what a surprise. DeBoer sucks. Our power play under him has been pitiful. Our offense as a while is pathetic. How DeBoer is still around while Gallant was on such a short leash makes zero sense… Pietrangelo is a great player, but we didn’t need him. We had plenty of depth and traded it all to while also signing away all the cap space. Our cap situation wouldn’t be too too atrocious if we didn’t sign him. Trading for Lehner was an awesome move, but extending him and trading away Fleury were 2 horrible moves. And Fleury… there’s no words that can truly explain the betrayal true Vegas fans feel. He was the Vezina, who wanted to retire as a Knight. It turns out management saw him as a bridge goalie since the moment he became a Knight. Vegas’ management is idiotic, shameful, stubborn, arrogant, and spineless… I might be one of the few fans who loved the Eichel trade. Once healthy and next to Stone, Pacioretty, and Marchessault he should return to form. Again, if we didn’t pay Pietrangelo the cap situation wouldn’t be that terrible. Gallant and Fleury were, still are, and will always be beloved by the city. We had it all, a great present, bright future, a team that was exciting and lovable… and gone in the blink of an eye.
I can tell you why: because San Jose is crap. As a lifelong Sabres fan, I've gotten into the habit of finding real teams to cheer for. I got on the San Jose bandwagon during Logan's rookie year. Those Sharks teams were so goddamn stacked, and they still found a way to break my heart every single goddamn year.
Even as a Sharks fan, that Fleury trade had me scratching my head thinking, "Why on earth are you basically betraying everything he did for your team?" He's a beast, he's a brick wall, and they get rid of him? Over Twitter? He's earned far more respect, even from the Sharks, to have that kind of crap done to him.
I'm still just so confused why the Knights fired Gerard Gallant for Peter DeBoer especially after seeing what incredible work Gallant did to the Rangers.
Just a team with no heart and soul and no loyalty. The Gallant firing and Fleury trade have never made any sense. Going for mark stone and Lehner made no sense. I could go on and on. Team is a sham and just the new Cirque on ice show in Las Vegas.
This is a Lou Lamoriello special. Got that? Good. Barry Trotz was fired by The Isles. Head scratching. Rumor goes that when DeBoer gets canned in Vegas, Lou will bring DeBoer to The Island.
@@Hiccuple Fleury was one of the worst starters in the league and the Knights goaltending as a whole wad one of the worst in the league at the time a young-ish guy freshly of a Vezina nomination was being offered at bellow market value. Since then, Fleury won his Vezina and went right back to being one of the worst starters in the league behind a defencive corp ranked around 10th in the league, the same ranking the Knights had when Lehner was first aquired (results vary from model to model). Youre either being purposely obtuse or did not pay attention to the team at the time. As for Stone, he's been one of the best players in his position and excellent for the Knights; he is a little less justified, but its not like the Knights lost much on his acquisition (the only argument to be made here is that he cemented the team's bad habit of always chasing big names rather than just sticking to a successful corp. His contract might also be a problem 3 years from now, but thats a different problem all toguether)
Gallant has been very bad here in NY. Outclassed behind the bench by Sullivan, his player deployment is a joke, willingly played 4/5 of the worst players in the league in terms of possession and shot generation often times more than the obviously talented young players, it took him until game 5 of the playoffs to finally realize Patrick nemeth is the worst defenseman in the league. His unrequited love for big immobile veteran dmen is painful. Who actually plays the worst 4th line in the league more than a surprisingly good line of 20-22 year olds who generate some of the most offense on the team/60
"Making the Cup in their first year created an addict- someone who craves the thrill of winning the jackpot again while not having the experience to ground themselves in reality nor the mental fortitude to handle it." -amazing Vegas analogy by Tree
We all knew this was coming. Tree held out for the right time to unload on them. Every other team and fanbase will revel in this. Didn't take long for them to become the villain by their own hands.
@@seand1011 I think it’s their 3rd jersey kit, w/shiny gold helmets. They look brutal. The Kings copied it with shiny silver helmets, not as bad as the gold tho
Reaches Cup Final in first season followed by post-season heartbreaks, like the Blues Uniform redesign that everyone hates, like the California Seals & their white skates
@@seand1011 they debuted them back in February. They wear them with the gray home jersey mostly. The fans actually petitioned the team to get rid of them. Check out a pic. Trust me, they’re ridiculous!
Idk sometimes it benefits teams, he did ones on the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, and they’re doing great rn Maybe it’s what they need to get over the hump 🤔
While I don’t agree with everything in this video, this is some of the most honest reporting on the golden knights from an outside source I’ve seen and it’s quite refreshing. Thanks tree. Keep it up
The Cherry on top for it all was when Tuch stole the puck from Eichel to shot the game winning goal. The guy they traded away for him sealed their fate.
For real everyone was cheering for Buffalo that night and now they have completely fleeced Vegas with them missing the playoffs and giving up their first round pick.
I was hoping VGK would miss the playoffs by a single point so Eichel would have known that loss in Buffalo cost them the playoffs. Funny while some were angry with Eichel before that game, his comments after that game drove even sympathetic Sabres fans away.
When Vegas had their first season, I bought in. It was a great run, fueled by the vegas shooting, nothing could have gone wrong. And then everything went wrong.
I'm back to this Video, because VGK are currently at the SCF. If they win at all, Utree made again a Jinxed Video before the Team in question are going to to win the whole thing. In Utree words: **"THEY KEEP WINNING!!!"**
Fleury was the face of the franchise that they chewed up and spit out. One of the worst betrayals of a player by a team I've ever seen. It's mind blowing and crazy that they traded the vezina winner after he had just won it that season. People would pay just to see him. I just can't even imagine teams like the Lakers doing that to Kobe or Yankees doing that to Derek Jeter or spurs doing that to Tim Duncan or who have you.
As a true Vegas native (born and raised) who was just getting into hockey around 2015, to hear the mutterings of getting our own team was incredible. Imagine the high I got when every salty old head and shit talker was proven wrong by our Cinderella run in 2017. We acquired some pieces true but as soon as we axed Gallant, later followed by Fleury I knew deep down my beloved franchise, which brought a major sport to a city whose closest equivalent was the summer league, Tark's run which I wasn't alive for, and the Wranglers, was going to be the subject of a UT video. To say we sold our soul was an understatement. Every firing and trade cause more anger among me and fellow fans. We watched our misfits no longer fit together. A bargain bin dream was traded away for flash that seems empty. The Sharks crushed our souls in a way that them being a basement franchise before and since can't quite heal. Granted the dramatics may be a little much since it could be a blip (though I doubt it). It was still soul crushing every time Vegas made a move for a "high tier talent" at the expense of the guys who gave us our heart and soul. Watching guys like Neal, Reeves and Merrill be whisked off to other teams killed me as a fan. None of our recent moves seemed worth it, even at the time. Were we hampered by injuries? Sure, but unless we at least get a new coach this off season we're going to be right back where we were this year. I think Foley has been a decent owner, and having the team as a shining star after a national tragedy made me feel proud to be from a city that was the butt of jokes. Now our team is one too.
What’s really sad though, is their reputation might never be the same. You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Vegas fan, born/raised, Tree is 100% right. The first year spoiled us/management and i dont blame everyone for hating us due to how management treated basically everyone since. One thing i think needs to be mentioned that people often forget- we had the worst shooting in US history a week or so before our home opener in 2017. Vegas is a large city but almost everyone knew someone who was at that concert and it really shook the city. The Knights that first month and throughout the season were an incredible source for helping the city heal somewhat and made them endeared to us from the start. I think that connection from the beginning helped alot with them winning games. Now that beloved team has become a shell of itself and I can tell you for certain that many knights fans in vegas are not happy either at the way we've done business.
I agree. That first group of players played way over their heads that year and I think having the whole city come together like that was a huge boost and a major part of their success, but management failed to realize it and went after big-name players instead of building on the heart and character that the team already had.
Probably the best video about the franchise I've seen. I was born and raised in Buffalo, NY, moved to Vegas in 2008. This place is my home, but I'll always be a Buffalo girl. Oct 1 really brought this community together and your description of our inaugural season, a bunch of 3rd/4th line players, contracts ending soon, etc couldn't be more true! The only players that fans in the league recognized were Fleury, Methot, Neal, and Van Riemsdyk. Nobody knew Marchessault, Perron, Karlsson, Miller, Eakin. I mean c'mon, you know those names now but not that first year! That team bonded and played with heart. The off season trades were smart moves for the most part, and a lot of people look at these trades with emotional attachment instead of looking at the business side. If we were to retain Fleury, we would have had to let go 5-6 forwards/defenseman along with picks. There's no way in hell, we would have been able to keep him here. Yes, he was the heart and sole of this team, but he was not cheap to retain. I mean, even after trading him, we still had to figure out ways to keep people like Stone, Pacioretty, etc. LTIR, bring up guys from the AHL. Our season was a shit show this year and it's kind of funny how the original fans are all bowing out now because that's exactly what every other fan base said would happen. It's embarrassing actually reading comments about Lehner and his mental health issues. He's no Fleury, but he's also probably 90lbs bigger and taller than Fleury as a goalie. He doesn't need to flop from one side to the other like a baseball player diving for a catch fully extended. He covers more ground! Now granted, he's slower but bringing up his mental health issues and riding that train on social media every time the team loses? Makes me not want to be in the same arena with these people. That's NOT how you support your hometown team. Before you criticize the players, I invite you to step on the ice and play the game. Yelling SHOOOOOOT when they're behind the net? lol comical. On the flip side, I'm really happy to see how the season ended for Buffalo and am excited for next season! My boys and hometown need a championship now more than ever!
Lets not forget that Lehner is a recovering alcohol addict and someone who went throught a lot of therapy for anxiety and depression only for vegas to fuck him over great fucking job, Vegas
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 To be fair, it's not that hard to have foresight on things like this when you've been burned before, as Tree undoubtedly had been. The most notable examples I can think of before this are the Capitals and Nationals LoF vids and the Dodgers 2019 "Congrats" vid.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the Knights injury excuse holds a lot less water when considering that the Kings were up there with them in man games lost, played half the season without Doughty, at one point were playing 5 or 6 minor league call ups on d because everyone else was hurt (I think Maata was the only non-call up at the time). And on paper aren’t a good enough team to handle that, and still finished ahead of Vegas
17:28 - he knew. As someone else pointed out, he did videos about this like the Caps and Blues back in 2017 and within the next two years they both aged like milk. Tree doing a video about your team failing is usually a great sign you're about to win the cup. Except the Leafs, not even tree is strong enough for the curse of Toronto.
2:08 Sorry Tree, but that was a loaded talent pool chalk full of top 6 forwards but light on defense save for Fleury. Not to mention their GM was openly threatening to take specific players and naming names, (something Bettman put a stop to right before the deadline but it was too little too late,) resulting in teams offering up prospects and draft picks for them to walk away from specific players he named. This set the table for a very stacked Knights team that the Canadian pundits predicted to make the playoffs in a weak Pacific division. They had the deck stacked in their favor unlike Seattle which was an overcorrection on the league's part.
Knowing how well Tree’s videos age, my first reaction to seeing this was,”No! What have you done!?!? Now they’re going to win it all next year!” Let’s hope I’m wrong for everyone’s sanity!
Welp... So, what form will the next vid take? Double-strength Conglaturations for South Florida? (With special guest Perna) Ruins of Oston Part 2? Walk (Skate?) of Shame 2? The (baseball) Field (includes the Saudi Golf Association)
@@seadav0183 if he's there after two or three seasons, I'd be surprised. I felt like they just grabbed a name in the coaching Rolodex that had experience, but wouldn't break the bank.
Loved the video, I'm glad everyone else sees the terribly run organization too. I heard that little Johnny Superbman reference too. "dadanov!!!" A true OG hockey TH-camr.
@Cold Snap well close lol fear and loathing in Las Vegas. They are considered j pop but yes. I am an anime nerd and really love there music. If you've ever seen parasyte they make the opening song for it!
Do a video about the Torts Jackets. A tough, young team that made really solid trades only for everyone to jump ship when they finally started winning in the playoffs.
This has been the best season in a very long time for my Sabres. The Sabres had an incredible second half because of actual full-team growth rather than being carried by one guy and they look like they're gonna be real competitive, real soon. Even better, Jack missed the playoffs his first season out of Buffalo because, shockingly, he failed to show up in big situations. I can't remember the last time I was this excited about both the forthcoming football AND hockey seasons. My Bills and Sabres are gonna be a lot of fun to watch. :)
I’m kind of surprised there was a comparison to the Bills teams that made the Super Bowl in this video because the only true comparison between those teams and the Golden Knights are unique accomplishments that have not been repeated in their respective leagues. I’d argue making it all those years in a row is more impressive than winning a title, but then I realize that there’d be a couple more players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame by now if they had taken care of business. As far as Vegas is concerned, I feel bad for the fans that have to put up with the product their management is now responsible and don’t act like they’re entitled to success. If they don’t change their organizational philosophy, the future doesn’t appear to be super bright for them.
I love the "Vegas was handed a team" argument. In those situations I ask the person to provide just 1 pre season prediction from an analyst, writer, or even Vegas management that talked about their team being a contender. The odds were 500-1 for some of the betting also.
Agreed, the revisionist history is insane. Almost NOBODY had any kind of high hopes for the Knights for their first season. I remember hearing how analysts and writers thought they botched their draft pics. But, the "Gifted a Cup contending team" narrative continues.
@@devonmccallum7130 not only that but look at the few positive things that were said. Fleury and Pickard will be a strong goalie combo. Pickard didn't even make the team. Shipachyev will be a big name that will help with goals. He lasted 3 games. Guys like Neal, Marchessault, or Smith will be the points producers. Karlsson gets over 40 goals.
@@slasher1087 My two teams fucked up the most; Minnesota (trading Tuch to them so that they'd take Erik Haula instead of Matt Dumba) and Columbus (Karlsson)
As someone who watched the habs-knights series tree forgot to mention one thing: it seemed that the league tried to rig that series for vegas (horrible missed calls and etc) but they still found a way to loose
Oh my god yes ! It got better later in the series, but the first 2-3 games were just awfully officiated. Even I, who don't believe in conspiracy theories usually, started to think that the games were actually rigged
After they traded Pacioretty and Coghlan for future considerations today, this video now deserves to be preserved in both the Library of Congress and National Film Registry.
Every Year, Utree has something to talk about the Knights. It's like every year he gives us a new chapter of the Legacy of Failure: Golden Knights. If the Legacy will be broken, what's gonna happen?
I remember watching the game live and I could not believe what I saw. I mean he was playing the puck the whole game and in the back of my head I was like “he might screw up” and then he did. It just happens I guess.
It's a problem Fleury has had his entire career. Usually it's a puck flying in hot like that one and he doesn't settle it fully. A goalie stick doesn't do control it is a roll of a die of fast as shit or the weakest pass you'll ever see. He is an amazing goalie, he just doesn't have the hands goalies of old had. Still would take him over most others in the league
I was rooting for them, who wouldn't love a good underdog story. They had the potential to be the most beloved franchise, despite being in Vegas. But treating staff and players like garbage? Gerard Gallant? Marc André Fleury? Evgeni Dadonov? And it keeps happening. And it's hard to support a franchise like this. You're right, if they don't win the cup, the support will dwindle due to both failure and them being a total cancer of an organization. They have to do it.
A year later, they have seemingly learned to cool their tits and it has worked. I’m not a Knights fan, but I wouldn’t mind if they win the cup this year. Mainly since if they do make the Cup final, a first time champion will be crowned. And that’s my favorite part of sports.
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Well, I did say they'd win a Cup the next season...
Congratulations, you magnificent SOB. You need to come out here and make $$$.
I was wrong about the Golden Knights this year too, but I’m glad they finally got their immortality tonight.
This video aged too good right now.
Came here for this lol.
Also Clippers Legacy of Failure when?
I was just about to say VGK should thank you as your predicted last year.
Vegas: We almost won the Cup and the team is a special squad.
Also Vegas: Better change everything
Yeah because keeping the same team when you lose in the finals has ALWAYS worked out. Especially when that team would never do it again
@@joeroganreal worked for tampa
@@lorenzovalencia6816 and Pittsburgh..........and Detroit
@@joeroganreal Bruh, what? If you are able to make the finals you have to have an amazing team.
Shouldn’t have fired Gallant
Back when the knights exploded into the finals I remember saying that this was tree's most impressive jinxing effort ever. He was just stating the blatantly obvious, This expansion team will suck in its first year of existence, a given in the world of professional sports... and what do you know the FIRST expansion team in tree's youtube tenure just so happens to be great... despite how incredible that jinx was... I do vaguely remember tree coming out with a praising video for the knights. "Everything they have touched has turned to gold thus far and I'm actually starting to really like them as a team moving forward. Will I admit that I was totally wrong?... not yet. It's very early in their history and the REAL test of their staying power will be 3-4 years down the road." - UT, Revisiting... The Vegas Golden Knights...a video from 4 years ago.... Tree... what did you do?
I honestly don't know.
@@UrinatingTree whatever you do don't touch the red wings we're finally turning a corner and if we mess this coaching hire up I will cry for a very long time so please don't jinx us
First he jinxed them into going to the Cup (and probably winning it if they hadn't been stood in the way of by a vastly superior Washington Capitals team) with "The Vegas Golden Knights: Why?" and then jinxed them again by making management into the useless shit pile it is now with "Revisiting... The Vegas Golden Knights".
@@sportsnstuff5557 As long as he talks shit about the Sharks I'm good
Revisiting this gem in 2023. We’re neither fearful nor loathsome anymore. Congrats Knights on the win!
Yes for real
Damn right
What makes the Pacioretty trade even worse is that not only did McPhee favor Glass more, but Montreal did as well, but he convinced them to take Suzuki instead
EDIT: Welp, now they’ve gone from Nick Suzuki to Pacioretty to… future considerations? Elite asset management
Suzuki scoring that empty netter on them too just rubbed it in. I love it
@@giacdeswiage3943 you love to see it
Different sport but in 2002 the Boston Celtics traded Joe Johnson to the Phoenix Suns and the Suns wanted Kedrick Brown. General manager Chris Wallace talked the Suns into taking Johnson. Brown was out of the league a year later and Johnson just retired TWENTY years later after being a star in Phoenix and Atlanta.
And now my Preds are stuck with Glass in the minors
The new NICK SUZUKI extension is absolutely terrible. MTL won the trade with Pac but not trading Suzuki before his extension made it so it didnt matter. 7.8 mill per year to a guy that has not been a point a game player even once is INSANITY.
Fleury, Lehner, and Thompson. Three goalies that have been treated horribly by the management. Truly the only VGK members that I empathize(d) with.
i don’t feel bad for lerner to be honest. dude tried to make a reporter out to be an ass before getting season ending surgery.
The Knights upper management with their actions have essentially said that they don't care about chemistry or loyalty or the actual human emotions of their players. As long as they get back to the Cup, that's all that matters. They neglected to realize that team unity and chemistry was a major factor in the success in their inaugural season. They've become more soulless, cutthroat, and unlikable every year since and the product has suffered as a result.
I don’t really see how Thompson has been mistreated the others for sure
@@paradiseconnor yet
Lehner is really garbage
Vegas lost me the minute they fired Gerard Gallant. That was infuriating. He had the respect of the locker room! He was the coach necessary to get back to the cup.
Facts
Gallant was fired bc Foley thought the team had "become complacent" in the midst of a 4 game skid while atop the PacDiv
Washington fans feel the same way man, we let Barry Trotz go the year after we won the cup, absolutely ridiculous.
Rangers fans thank the Knights for their idiocy
@@Boobiejonshorts isles fan here, i feel your pain
Omg, at 14:55 when you put Johnny’s scream about Daddanov, that just brought back such a good memory
Bro im so happy he uses the sound bite
DADANOOOOOOOV! THAT MOTHER-
One of his Best meltdowns)
There's one more at 13:43 :D
That was by far his most memorable moment and is still hilarious to this day.
The Vegas Knights got me into hockey, and I can’t believe how badly the organization has mismanaged such a perfect situation. It’s embarrassing being a fan. I’ve never felt like this as a SF 49ers, Giants, or Warriors fan, even when each of these teams were bottom of the barrel losers.
Not every move was bad! Patches and Stone were amazing gets that we don’t regret. The 3 big moves that totally screwed us:
Firing Gallant
Signing Pietrangelo
Trading Fleury
Gallant wasn’t fired for performance, but because he clashed with Foley and the GM… what a surprise. DeBoer sucks. Our power play under him has been pitiful. Our offense as a while is pathetic. How DeBoer is still around while Gallant was on such a short leash makes zero sense…
Pietrangelo is a great player, but we didn’t need him. We had plenty of depth and traded it all to while also signing away all the cap space. Our cap situation wouldn’t be too too atrocious if we didn’t sign him. Trading for Lehner was an awesome move, but extending him and trading away Fleury were 2 horrible moves.
And Fleury… there’s no words that can truly explain the betrayal true Vegas fans feel. He was the Vezina, who wanted to retire as a Knight. It turns out management saw him as a bridge goalie since the moment he became a Knight. Vegas’ management is idiotic, shameful, stubborn, arrogant, and spineless…
I might be one of the few fans who loved the Eichel trade. Once healthy and next to Stone, Pacioretty, and Marchessault he should return to form. Again, if we didn’t pay Pietrangelo the cap situation wouldn’t be that terrible.
Gallant and Fleury were, still are, and will always be beloved by the city. We had it all, a great present, bright future, a team that was exciting and lovable… and gone in the blink of an eye.
Your power play only sucks under DeBoer because of the incriminating photos Spott clearly has on him.
Giants warriors and 49ers fan but didn’t choose the Sharks. Why?
I can tell you why: because San Jose is crap. As a lifelong Sabres fan, I've gotten into the habit of finding real teams to cheer for. I got on the San Jose bandwagon during Logan's rookie year. Those Sharks teams were so goddamn stacked, and they still found a way to break my heart every single goddamn year.
DeBoer. What an obviously horrible choice, lmao.
Even as a Sharks fan, that Fleury trade had me scratching my head thinking, "Why on earth are you basically betraying everything he did for your team?" He's a beast, he's a brick wall, and they get rid of him? Over Twitter? He's earned far more respect, even from the Sharks, to have that kind of crap done to him.
You blessed us with this video. I thank you. This is glorious. Go. Knights. Go.
And now as of last night, the Knights have claimed their first Stanley Cup.
And guess who just made the 2023 Stanley Cup Finals. UrinatingTree’s powers of forecasting and jinxing are godlike.
And they won
I'm still just so confused why the Knights fired Gerard Gallant for Peter DeBoer especially after seeing what incredible work Gallant did to the Rangers.
Just a team with no heart and soul and no loyalty. The Gallant firing and Fleury trade have never made any sense. Going for mark stone and Lehner made no sense. I could go on and on.
Team is a sham and just the new Cirque on ice show in Las Vegas.
Or what "incredible" job DeBoer did for Sharks
This is a Lou Lamoriello special. Got that? Good.
Barry Trotz was fired by The Isles. Head scratching. Rumor goes that when DeBoer gets canned in Vegas, Lou will bring DeBoer to The Island.
@@Hiccuple Fleury was one of the worst starters in the league and the Knights goaltending as a whole wad one of the worst in the league at the time a young-ish guy freshly of a Vezina nomination was being offered at bellow market value. Since then, Fleury won his Vezina and went right back to being one of the worst starters in the league behind a defencive corp ranked around 10th in the league, the same ranking the Knights had when Lehner was first aquired (results vary from model to model). Youre either being purposely obtuse or did not pay attention to the team at the time. As for Stone, he's been one of the best players in his position and excellent for the Knights; he is a little less justified, but its not like the Knights lost much on his acquisition (the only argument to be made here is that he cemented the team's bad habit of always chasing big names rather than just sticking to a successful corp. His contract might also be a problem 3 years from now, but thats a different problem all toguether)
Gallant has been very bad here in NY. Outclassed behind the bench by Sullivan, his player deployment is a joke, willingly played 4/5 of the worst players in the league in terms of possession and shot generation often times more than the obviously talented young players, it took him until game 5 of the playoffs to finally realize Patrick nemeth is the worst defenseman in the league. His unrequited love for big immobile veteran dmen is painful. Who actually plays the worst 4th line in the league more than a surprisingly good line of 20-22 year olds who generate some of the most offense on the team/60
5 Knights videos from Tree are one win away from becoming Historical Pieces.
17:29 Tree called it!
@@Donald_the_Potholer Dude, if the Kraken end up winning it all next year, too. Yes.
@@AutoArtemAuto he's actually more cautious with them, hope they can succeed
Thanks Tree for the Championship!
That ending really did age like fine ass wine
Holy shit he called it
"Making the Cup in their first year created an addict- someone who craves the thrill of winning the jackpot again while not having the experience to ground themselves in reality nor the mental fortitude to handle it." -amazing Vegas analogy by Tree
...and now they finally hit the jackpot
We all knew this was coming. Tree held out for the right time to unload on them. Every other team and fanbase will revel in this. Didn't take long for them to become the villain by their own hands.
I don’t think this was posted at the right time🤣 They won the cup right after. Thanks Tree!!
Who’s here when the Knights won the Stanley Cup one year after this video released the Tree jinx lives on
Vegas goes from loveable scrappy underdogs with beautiful uniforms to a hated team with god awful gold helmets in record time. Impressive!
Holy fuck those helmets and that stupid ass medieval theme pisses me off lol
Gold helmets? I know they have gold sweaters, but when did they have gold helmets?
@@seand1011 I think it’s their 3rd jersey kit, w/shiny gold helmets. They look brutal. The Kings copied it with shiny silver helmets, not as bad as the gold tho
Reaches Cup Final in first season followed by post-season heartbreaks, like the Blues
Uniform redesign that everyone hates, like the California Seals & their white skates
@@seand1011 they debuted them back in February. They wear them with the gray home jersey mostly. The fans actually petitioned the team to get rid of them. Check out a pic. Trust me, they’re ridiculous!
Oh you know it’s bad when there’s a 18 minute video dedicated to your team
Any video over 10 mins on your team is Bad period
Waiting for the inevitable leaf’s video
@@Elston-Gunn1 55, man
As a Mariners fan, I can only say… Welcome to the club. Wear a crotch guard.
Idk sometimes it benefits teams, he did ones on the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, and they’re doing great rn
Maybe it’s what they need to get over the hump 🤔
While I don’t agree with everything in this video, this is some of the most honest reporting on the golden knights from an outside source I’ve seen and it’s quite refreshing. Thanks tree. Keep it up
The Cherry on top for it all was when Tuch stole the puck from Eichel to shot the game winning goal. The guy they traded away for him sealed their fate.
Didn’t Krebs score in that game too? Buffalo really did well with the trade
For real everyone was cheering for Buffalo that night and now they have completely fleeced Vegas with them missing the playoffs and giving up their first round pick.
That was beautiful.
I was hoping VGK would miss the playoffs by a single point so Eichel would have known that loss in Buffalo cost them the playoffs. Funny while some were angry with Eichel before that game, his comments after that game drove even sympathetic Sabres fans away.
What do you say now? Lol
And now they won the Stanley Cup. The addition of Bruce Cassidy, Ivan Barbashev improved the squad and instrumental in their Stanley Cup victory.
"Ill see you next year when they win the cup!"
Can you make a video predicting the bears to win the superbowl? Lol
17:30 I'll be damned, you called it.
When Vegas had their first season, I bought in. It was a great run, fueled by the vegas shooting, nothing could have gone wrong.
And then everything went wrong.
Literally everything went wrong.
The curse of Vegas.
This team is like crypto looks really good but always has a chance to completely collapse
I think we all bought in
@@evil_icicle God damn, that was good.
It feels great watching this vid after winning it all now
I'm back to this Video, because VGK are currently at the SCF. If they win at all, Utree made again a Jinxed Video before the Team in question are going to to win the whole thing. In Utree words:
**"THEY KEEP WINNING!!!"**
That Vegas vs San Jose series was incredible. Craziest game seven I've ever seen. (Flames fan)
One of the first Tree videos I saw was about Vegas as an expansion team. Feels like we've come full circle
Great call on the cup win! Go knights baby!
"Now watch as this becomes hideously out of date next year as they go deep in the playoffs again." Yup you are right, we are back in the WCF
And it's not only a rematch of the 2020 bubbles WCF, it's also against your old coach.
Cup Champs now…..
Wow, I feel terrible for Fleury, they treated him like shit
Blackhawks treated him way better. They actually consulted him about being traded and he wanted to go to Minnesota.
He knew a month ahead of time that there was a trade coming they just didn't know when exactly.
Fleury was the face of the franchise that they chewed up and spit out. One of the worst betrayals of a player by a team I've ever seen.
It's mind blowing and crazy that they traded the vezina winner after he had just won it that season. People would pay just to see him. I just can't even imagine teams like the Lakers doing that to Kobe or Yankees doing that to Derek Jeter or spurs doing that to Tim Duncan or who have you.
This man actually made an accurate prediction for once
This is where the Term, “You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the Villian” comes into play. And Vegas did just that.
Oh no this makes me sad as a fan of America’s most beloved team the mighty VGK! - Gary.
BOOOOOOOOO
@@philtorrez4198 He surprisingly wasn't booed during Marleau's retirement announcement. He wasn't physically there but he had a video statement.
Looks like this video worked. Vegas is going back to the Finals!
As a true Vegas native (born and raised) who was just getting into hockey around 2015, to hear the mutterings of getting our own team was incredible. Imagine the high I got when every salty old head and shit talker was proven wrong by our Cinderella run in 2017. We acquired some pieces true but as soon as we axed Gallant, later followed by Fleury I knew deep down my beloved franchise, which brought a major sport to a city whose closest equivalent was the summer league, Tark's run which I wasn't alive for, and the Wranglers, was going to be the subject of a UT video. To say we sold our soul was an understatement. Every firing and trade cause more anger among me and fellow fans. We watched our misfits no longer fit together. A bargain bin dream was traded away for flash that seems empty. The Sharks crushed our souls in a way that them being a basement franchise before and since can't quite heal. Granted the dramatics may be a little much since it could be a blip (though I doubt it). It was still soul crushing every time Vegas made a move for a "high tier talent" at the expense of the guys who gave us our heart and soul. Watching guys like Neal, Reeves and Merrill be whisked off to other teams killed me as a fan. None of our recent moves seemed worth it, even at the time. Were we hampered by injuries? Sure, but unless we at least get a new coach this off season we're going to be right back where we were this year. I think Foley has been a decent owner, and having the team as a shining star after a national tragedy made me feel proud to be from a city that was the butt of jokes. Now our team is one too.
What’s really sad though, is their reputation might never be the same. You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
@@ohnobro1424 Yeah they're done, I'll never like them.
@@bustywaifus what a bummer
Vegas fan, born/raised, Tree is 100% right. The first year spoiled us/management and i dont blame everyone for hating us due to how management treated basically everyone since. One thing i think needs to be mentioned that people often forget- we had the worst shooting in US history a week or so before our home opener in 2017. Vegas is a large city but almost everyone knew someone who was at that concert and it really shook the city. The Knights that first month and throughout the season were an incredible source for helping the city heal somewhat and made them endeared to us from the start. I think that connection from the beginning helped alot with them winning games. Now that beloved team has become a shell of itself and I can tell you for certain that many knights fans in vegas are not happy either at the way we've done business.
I agree. That first group of players played way over their heads that year and I think having the whole city come together like that was a huge boost and a major part of their success, but management failed to realize it and went after big-name players instead of building on the heart and character that the team already had.
Well at least you still have the Raiders. You lost a scrappy team but you gained another.
@@ohnobro1424 but then Josh McDaniels happened
@@ChiefBlue4298 yeah 😬
Fuck that guy.
17:32 You predicted the future
Yes he did. I’m writing this with 17:36 minutes left in the 3rd period
Probably the best video about the franchise I've seen. I was born and raised in Buffalo, NY, moved to Vegas in 2008. This place is my home, but I'll always be a Buffalo girl. Oct 1 really brought this community together and your description of our inaugural season, a bunch of 3rd/4th line players, contracts ending soon, etc couldn't be more true! The only players that fans in the league recognized were Fleury, Methot, Neal, and Van Riemsdyk. Nobody knew Marchessault, Perron, Karlsson, Miller, Eakin. I mean c'mon, you know those names now but not that first year! That team bonded and played with heart.
The off season trades were smart moves for the most part, and a lot of people look at these trades with emotional attachment instead of looking at the business side. If we were to retain Fleury, we would have had to let go 5-6 forwards/defenseman along with picks. There's no way in hell, we would have been able to keep him here. Yes, he was the heart and sole of this team, but he was not cheap to retain. I mean, even after trading him, we still had to figure out ways to keep people like Stone, Pacioretty, etc. LTIR, bring up guys from the AHL. Our season was a shit show this year and it's kind of funny how the original fans are all bowing out now because that's exactly what every other fan base said would happen. It's embarrassing actually reading comments about Lehner and his mental health issues. He's no Fleury, but he's also probably 90lbs bigger and taller than Fleury as a goalie. He doesn't need to flop from one side to the other like a baseball player diving for a catch fully extended. He covers more ground! Now granted, he's slower but bringing up his mental health issues and riding that train on social media every time the team loses? Makes me not want to be in the same arena with these people. That's NOT how you support your hometown team. Before you criticize the players, I invite you to step on the ice and play the game. Yelling SHOOOOOOT when they're behind the net? lol comical.
On the flip side, I'm really happy to see how the season ended for Buffalo and am excited for next season! My boys and hometown need a championship now more than ever!
17:30 Hello…..It happened…….Lol
Ending this with the Sharks scoring the last second goal was priceless. They're going to kill each other next year.
The dadonov scream in the background is beautiful
14:51 the shoutout to 2BC is legendary
Vegas has won a cup after just 6 years!!
video aged like a glass of milk in the south beach sun
Late, but I definitely get that pun at the end
The tree jinx strikes again.
Here after Vegas won the Cup!!
Lets not forget that Lehner is a recovering alcohol addict and someone who went throught a lot of therapy for anxiety and depression
only for vegas to fuck him over
great fucking job, Vegas
Lol like this hasn’t happened thousands of times in pro sports already
glad to know this aged about as well as the Caps legacy of failure
The demise does look kinda nice.
17:30 "I'll see you next year when they win the Cup!"
Welp...
The foresight this man has is absolutely unbelievable.
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 To be fair, it's not that hard to have foresight on things like this when you've been burned before, as Tree undoubtedly had been. The most notable examples I can think of before this are the Capitals and Nationals LoF vids and the Dodgers 2019 "Congrats" vid.
And the Golden Knights are your Stanley Cup Champions!
17:29 IT HAPPENED
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the Knights injury excuse holds a lot less water when considering that the Kings were up there with them in man games lost, played half the season without Doughty, at one point were playing 5 or 6 minor league call ups on d because everyone else was hurt (I think Maata was the only non-call up at the time). And on paper aren’t a good enough team to handle that, and still finished ahead of Vegas
And very nearly beat Edmonton in round one as well.
Love that Tree had that 2BCSuperb reference with Dadonov
Urinating Tree you have been an inspiration to mediocre sports franchises
Update: Pete DeBoer has been "relieved of his head coaching duties" as of May 16th
That Bloodmoney score in the background is amazing. Loving the choice of Hitman tracks on these videos. 🙌🏾
Good ear! I knew I recognized that track but couldn’t place it.
This aged beautifully
Who woulda guessed THIS would be the video that wouldn't age well?
17:28 - he knew. As someone else pointed out, he did videos about this like the Caps and Blues back in 2017 and within the next two years they both aged like milk. Tree doing a video about your team failing is usually a great sign you're about to win the cup. Except the Leafs, not even tree is strong enough for the curse of Toronto.
2:08 Sorry Tree, but that was a loaded talent pool chalk full of top 6 forwards but light on defense save for Fleury. Not to mention their GM was openly threatening to take specific players and naming names, (something Bettman put a stop to right before the deadline but it was too little too late,) resulting in teams offering up prospects and draft picks for them to walk away from specific players he named. This set the table for a very stacked Knights team that the Canadian pundits predicted to make the playoffs in a weak Pacific division.
They had the deck stacked in their favor unlike Seattle which was an overcorrection on the league's part.
Who’s here after Vegas won the Stanley Cup and killed another Urinatingtree video
Tree is. 🤣
Vegas was made to get Ovechkin a cup win.
THE VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS ARE YOUR 2023 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
Gonna watch this video one last time while it's still relevant.
Knowing how well Tree’s videos age, my first reaction to seeing this was,”No! What have you done!?!? Now they’re going to win it all next year!” Let’s hope I’m wrong for everyone’s sanity!
I'm already assuming the same thing.
Nah Tree jinxed his jinx of them winning the Stanley Cup next year by saying they will, so that ain’t happening
:P, 50-50 chance now. Thx Utree :D
Welp...
So, what form will the next vid take?
Double-strength Conglaturations for South Florida? (With special guest Perna)
Ruins of Oston Part 2?
Walk (Skate?) of Shame 2?
The (baseball) Field (includes the Saudi Golf Association)
Lmao
Now the Golden Knights are in the Stanley Cup Final for the 2nd time ever
Providing they don't squeeze a cup out of this core, I'm going to theorize that the Kraken will be a better team than the Knights in four years
Yep, and all it will take is time to form and build chemistry and a good team. But they need to be patient and Seattle will be awarded greatly
I think they need to fore Hakstol first. He's not the guy
@@seadav0183 if he's there after two or three seasons, I'd be surprised. I felt like they just grabbed a name in the coaching Rolodex that had experience, but wouldn't break the bank.
Fantastically well made breakdown.
Yes, I'll take "UTree Vids That Aged Poorly for $1000," Mayim.
dude your hitman soundtrack usage gets me everytime you're so good at choosing songs
Had to come back to this video to see the end of it. Tree is a goddamn prophet.
Loved the video, I'm glad everyone else sees the terribly run organization too. I heard that little Johnny Superbman reference too. "dadanov!!!" A true OG hockey TH-camr.
@@blastimbre comments age very poorly sometimes. This is a great example from myself lmao
16:14 And they did!
This aged well
"They gave up 4 Power Play Goals in 5 Minutes!" That quote describes the Golden Knights since that day.
Kinda reminds me of the 5min major against new Jersey in the finals of 2012
@@TheKisj Yeah that was bad too
That's how a supposed Stanley Cup contender self-destructs.
I never made the connection that this team is a metaphor for Vegas gambling. Nice job tree
It's also the name of a Japanese metal band
@Cold Snap well close lol fear and loathing in Las Vegas. They are considered j pop but yes. I am an anime nerd and really love there music. If you've ever seen parasyte they make the opening song for it!
@Cold Snap ohhh haha I should have specified my fault
My favorite part about this? Jack Eichel abandoned the Sabres because he wanted to have a real shot at the cup
So he picked the Knights
Didn't he want the surgery for his neck but the Sabres tried to low ball him?
@@Sharky_Splitz he asked to be traded a year before he needed surgery
To be fair, Eichel needed to get out of that shitshow to _anywhere possible_ or risk permanent damage.
Last year at this time if I were to tell you that Sabres fans would be laughing at and mocking Knights fans, you would tell me I was a crazy person.
@@philly_sports1558 I don’t mock Knights fans, I mock the organization. Leafs fans, yes, but not the Knights
Looks like Tree has another archive vid, as he said: Vegas won the Stanley Cup one year after this video.
17:30 for reference
Utree makes watching the playoffs without the islanders bearable. Thank you, tree. Keep doing what you’re doing.
Do a video about the Torts Jackets.
A tough, young team that made really solid trades only for everyone to jump ship when they finally started winning in the playoffs.
Tree does it again…The Vegas Golden Knights are your Stanley Cup Champions!
Fear and loathing with Lord Stanley's Cup!
This has been the best season in a very long time for my Sabres. The Sabres had an incredible second half because of actual full-team growth rather than being carried by one guy and they look like they're gonna be real competitive, real soon. Even better, Jack missed the playoffs his first season out of Buffalo because, shockingly, he failed to show up in big situations. I can't remember the last time I was this excited about both the forthcoming football AND hockey seasons. My Bills and Sabres are gonna be a lot of fun to watch. :)
I’m kind of surprised there was a comparison to the Bills teams that made the Super Bowl in this video because the only true comparison between those teams and the Golden Knights are unique accomplishments that have not been repeated in their respective leagues. I’d argue making it all those years in a row is more impressive than winning a title, but then I realize that there’d be a couple more players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame by now if they had taken care of business.
As far as Vegas is concerned, I feel bad for the fans that have to put up with the product their management is now responsible and don’t act like they’re entitled to success. If they don’t change their organizational philosophy, the future doesn’t appear to be super bright for them.
God I remember when you guys were ass a year ago. I leave hockey for a year and everything’s completely different now lol.
I love the "Vegas was handed a team" argument. In those situations I ask the person to provide just 1 pre season prediction from an analyst, writer, or even Vegas management that talked about their team being a contender. The odds were 500-1 for some of the betting also.
Agreed, the revisionist history is insane. Almost NOBODY had any kind of high hopes for the Knights for their first season. I remember hearing how analysts and writers thought they botched their draft pics. But, the "Gifted a Cup contending team" narrative continues.
@@devonmccallum7130 not only that but look at the few positive things that were said. Fleury and Pickard will be a strong goalie combo. Pickard didn't even make the team. Shipachyev will be a big name that will help with goals. He lasted 3 games. Guys like Neal, Marchessault, or Smith will be the points producers. Karlsson gets over 40 goals.
@@slasher1087 My two teams fucked up the most; Minnesota (trading Tuch to them so that they'd take Erik Haula instead of Matt Dumba) and Columbus (Karlsson)
Tree, they won the cup
You called it. You are the clairvoyant
Firing Gallant AND hiring DeBoer is unironically one of the funniest things I’ve seen happen in this league.
Still funny? Those moves helped us end this horrible unending stretch without a championship!
As someone who watched the habs-knights series tree forgot to mention one thing: it seemed that the league tried to rig that series for vegas (horrible missed calls and etc) but they still found a way to loose
Yes and what happened here stood out like a sore thumb: th-cam.com/video/hgtioL3TxXw/w-d-xo.html
Oh my god yes ! It got better later in the series, but the first 2-3 games were just awfully officiated. Even I, who don't believe in conspiracy theories usually, started to think that the games were actually rigged
@@PEPSIPET chris lee still haunts my dreams
@@predat0r178 When he completly ignored Suzuki getting punched in the face right in front of his eyes
@@PEPSIPET exactly what i was thinking when i wrote that
After they traded Pacioretty and Coghlan for future considerations today, this video now deserves to be preserved in both the Library of Congress and National Film Registry.
Where does this vid belong now loll
Every Year, Utree has something to talk about the Knights. It's like every year he gives us a new chapter of the Legacy of Failure: Golden Knights. If the Legacy will be broken, what's gonna happen?
the tree curse strikes again!! vegas wins the stanley cup in the very next season after this is posted. legendary status
11:43 I'm still learning about hockey and I'm dumbfounded by this moment. How the hell does Flurrie let that happen?
I remember watching the game live and I could not believe what I saw. I mean he was playing the puck the whole game and in the back of my head I was like “he might screw up” and then he did. It just happens I guess.
He was trying to pass the puck for his teammates and he missplayed it very very rare thing to do but it happens
@@chaserwing2693 Yeah I was about to ask if there was miscommunication from his defensemen.
It's a problem Fleury has had his entire career. Usually it's a puck flying in hot like that one and he doesn't settle it fully. A goalie stick doesn't do control it is a roll of a die of fast as shit or the weakest pass you'll ever see.
He is an amazing goalie, he just doesn't have the hands goalies of old had. Still would take him over most others in the league
Mcflurry how dare u
1 year later and the Knights are one game away from their 2nd Finals appearance. Tree has the touch of shitting on people to make them a threat again.
I was rooting for them, who wouldn't love a good underdog story. They had the potential to be the most beloved franchise, despite being in Vegas.
But treating staff and players like garbage? Gerard Gallant? Marc André Fleury? Evgeni Dadonov? And it keeps happening. And it's hard to support a franchise like this.
You're right, if they don't win the cup, the support will dwindle due to both failure and them being a total cancer of an organization. They have to do it.
THE SUFFERING IS OVER IN VEGAS! Congratulations, Golden Knights!
Mmm... this aged well.
A year later, they have seemingly learned to cool their tits and it has worked. I’m not a Knights fan, but I wouldn’t mind if they win the cup this year. Mainly since if they do make the Cup final, a first time champion will be crowned. And that’s my favorite part of sports.
I'm glad our organization has humbled down lot. Results show. Now it's time to win a cup for las vegas! Go knights go!!⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️
Legendary for putting that 2bc dadonov easter egg in at 13:45