The Great Divide: Mexico's North-South Split

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  • @MiddleKingdom305
    @MiddleKingdom305 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The strong Mexican national identity makes a break up impossible. People identify as Mexican first and everything else later. You can see this in boxing.

    • @OurBrainHurtsALot
      @OurBrainHurtsALot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A divide can happen even if national identity is strong. West Germans and East Germans still considered themselves Germans, same for Koreans.

    • @tech.noir83
      @tech.noir83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@OurBrainHurtsALot this northern Mexican agrees with you, a North Mexico would be just as Mexican

    • @Chuydelmex13
      @Chuydelmex13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      THANK YOU !! IM NATIVE TO MEXICO WE STAND TOGETHER AND ITS ONLY GETTING STRONGER!!! 🇲🇽💪🇲🇽💪🇲🇽💪🇲🇽💪🇲🇽💪

    • @cherry23072
      @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@OurBrainHurtsALotIn this case no, after stolen territories and more situations we only trust ourselves and our people, therefore separating us would be breaking our identity and heart which is unthinkable

    • @cherry23072
      @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Chuydelmex13Concuerdo, también soy del norte y no nos vamos a separar,no sobre todo porque eso sería romper nuestra identidad y fuerza,eso solo le convendría a cierto país vecino y no lo haremo

  • @shibby7667
    @shibby7667 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    To all my fellow Mexicans here I think the issue is Mexico City hopefully we stay United but each state has more autonomy because it’s ridiculous how ineffective Mexico City has become

    • @cashewnuttel9054
      @cashewnuttel9054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does this mean you won't implement your plan to take back the lands the US stole from you?

  • @Blight-eo4yk
    @Blight-eo4yk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    A crime that this has so few views

  • @besmith89
    @besmith89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kudos to the creator -- your channel needs to be more popular than it is, given the quality of your content!

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it.

  • @ernestovr7705
    @ernestovr7705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm from Aguascalientes, the culture here is more similar to the north, but we feel proud about the diversity of the country and could never imagin one without the other, the strong arm that produces more is in the north, but most of the beauty lies in the south, it's like a classic couple of a strong man and a beautiful woman 😊

  • @mggaming4624
    @mggaming4624 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great quality video

  • @alonsocardenal3328
    @alonsocardenal3328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is some great content! Glad I discovered this channel early on

  • @basura4136
    @basura4136 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    From Sonora, I think you made an amazing job, the south is very mistreated, but it also has lot of problems, the poorest regions are in the south, sadly, the center takes attention away from us, unlike the US that is a union of different states that give sovereign to a federal government, we are a federal government that gives some autonomy to the states

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you very much! Yes, i didn't really dive into the governance aspect much, hopefully in a future video.

    • @kmote1053
      @kmote1053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nmms we es la misma cosa, los mismos servicios, la misma violencia. Vivir en Yucatán, Chiapas o tabasco es mil millones de veces mejor que vivir en obregón, nogales o Navojoa o cualquier pueblo de sonora. (Y si soy de sonora)

    • @basura4136
      @basura4136 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@kmote1053 Gracias, casí por preguntarte, pero ese no era el foco dei comentario, en el Sur la violencia suele tratarse por la toma de plazas, acá es eso mismo y además la toma de otras áreas y balaceras, me alegra que te guste el sur, pero cuando digo que no somos iguales a USA es cierto, allá cada estado tiene sus propias instituciones, leyes sobre impuestos, educación, comunicaciones, idiomas, división de tierras federales, estatales y privadas, mientras que en México no existe la posibilidad

    • @cashewnuttel9054
      @cashewnuttel9054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because it's hot over there, nobody like to work if it's too hot and that's why it's poor.

    • @powerthirst1478
      @powerthirst1478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cashewnuttel9054fascinating

  • @wisdomhappy587
    @wisdomhappy587 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really well done man!
    Love the way you went about this, graphics, story, history, geography, demographics. really good, excited for more videos from you!

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @lukepev5459
    @lukepev5459 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Subscribed!!! Great video!

  • @tonygq9267
    @tonygq9267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    As a Nuevo León citizen from generations I want my state to gain more authonomy but Independence is not the answer since we are dependant on the rest of states and we are landlocked.
    The best way to do it would be fighting for a truly federal system or being or own administrative region like HK.

    • @PaulyWally30
      @PaulyWally30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How much more? Do not always look at other countries systems. As they say, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. What works for them may not work for you. Different culture, different social system. In Asia they are always worse off than us in Western countries.

    • @tonygq9267
      @tonygq9267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @PaulyWally30 Well, it can't be worse than the country keeping 70% of what we produce and not doing anything when we went through a drought.
      Meanwhile, the capital has everything subsidized, and every federal project is done there.
      Following the example of the region with the best transportation system in the world and the most developed area in its own country shouldn't be that bad of an idea compared to what we have now.

    • @samirzepeda4028
      @samirzepeda4028 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @tech.noir83
      @tech.noir83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean Nuevo León doesnt have to go independent on its own, its about taking several if not all Northern states with you

    • @cherry23072
      @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Separating is only in the interest of the United States, with even more reason we would not do it after everything they have done to us

  • @erickalcala5642
    @erickalcala5642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    While I enjoyed the video, I think it’s a flawed analysis of the internal situation of Mexico. The separatists movements are way exaggerated. I think you failed to take into account the Mexican political system, the governing party and the political history of the nation as a whole. The Neza example was completely out of line, it is not a separatist movement or even situation, specially considering that Mexico City had been ruled by PRD since 1997, and then switched to MORENA in 2018. Now, in the 2018 elections the current ruling party won the majority of the votes in ALL the states, except Guanajuato, they also currently rule Sonora, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Tamaulipas and Sinaloa. They also almost won Nuevo León, if it weren’t for a political scandal, they would’ve won. The current governor of Nuevo León even wanted to be the presidential candidate for his party, and, while he had a stand of anti centralism in his campaign for governor, he became almost an ally of AMLO and had a lot of problems with the PRI-PAN-PRD alliance in the local congress. And from here you could go more and more in depth into the political situation in Mexico.
    Again, I don’t think it’s a bad video, but the situation is greatly exaggerated and your research was not enough to talk about this problem in Mexico, also because, currently and for the foreseeable future, this problem is nonexistent in Mexico.

    • @erickalcala5642
      @erickalcala5642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It’s also worth mentioning that the “left and right” divide in Mexico is almost non-existent, because we don’t have a truly right or left political party in Mexico. Also, states like Yucatán, Chiapas, Puebla and Veracruz are really conservative places, even more than a lot of northern states.

    • @erickalcala5642
      @erickalcala5642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And I also understand that there’s a lack of information in English about this and many topics regarding Mexico.

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the constructive comment, some good points. My point with the left-right was only referring to economics not to social conservatism as I'm aware the left-right dichotomy is not the same in Mexico as it is elsewhere.

    • @tonygq9267
      @tonygq9267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, and we all hate Samuel for being an idiot "pocos huevos" and suck it up to the president.
      The only reason he won is cause his campaign was focused on NL receiving a bigger budget from our own money.

    • @c.earjona4213
      @c.earjona4213 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      One of the reasons the governor of Nuevo Leon was elected were his stance on anticentralism and his opposition of AMLO policies, so people gave him the benefit of a doubt but he has shown to be a closeted chairo which was not what voters wanted. I don't see this guy winning next time but with the waves of people from the south moving to state i do see it becoming a left leaning state in the near future which is weird how they flee their Morena run state for opportunities elsewhere just to vote for that exact same party that fail them in their state of origin.

  • @brantleyrider
    @brantleyrider 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good work! Subbed!

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much appreciated!

  • @xllGustavollx
    @xllGustavollx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazingly good quality.

  • @richbandicoot
    @richbandicoot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mexico will work best as a united front, separatism isn’t the answer.

  • @Mexican01o101
    @Mexican01o101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MEXICO WILL NEVER SLPIT! this video should be banned for spreading false information

  • @rubenmendoza7681
    @rubenmendoza7681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not only northern states needs autonomy, but all the states of the republic must work for themselves and only each state can solve their problems, centralism is the reason for the underdevelpment of the country

  • @shmoolian5054
    @shmoolian5054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Subbed 🤝🏼 excellent commentary

  • @pavko8812
    @pavko8812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    im only 2 minutes in, but as soon as I saw that subscriber count I had to stop to sub. great work.

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Much appreciated

  • @lacasadelvideojuego3880
    @lacasadelvideojuego3880 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chiapas should left the federation, that state is just eating resources and doesn’t do much for the rest of the country

  • @234n9
    @234n9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Congratulations om this video you nailed it. Greetings from mexico

  • @hkehk7811
    @hkehk7811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your voice reminds me of another youtuber called Horses, love this content keep it up

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, that channel is great. I can see the resemblance a little.

  • @RealRepublicOfNiger
    @RealRepublicOfNiger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Great Divide.
    Where have I heard this before?

  • @romaaztec4550
    @romaaztec4550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    American propaganda wishes lol Mexicans have culture and traditions that will make it impossible for the country to separate.

  • @5Times5
    @5Times5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I come from Hidalgo, thank you for researching the politics of mexico especially mentioning the left-wing, unlike many people would assume that Mexico is just cartels and corruption

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your welcome. Im glad you liked it.

  • @yorn3934
    @yorn3934 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    im from Coahuila, a northern state, I love my country, but it is a problem how centralized the entire system is in Mexico City, how unequal the distribution is of what the northern states contribute to the federation.

  • @jamesduda6017
    @jamesduda6017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @aepacrisodium
    @aepacrisodium 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:29 you put Yucatán as part of Quintana Roo

  • @Cay30
    @Cay30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do a video of Bolivia's cultural divide too between Eastern Lowlands and the Mountainous West. It's fascinating. Even the Tarija region is separate too.

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, I'll look into it

    • @Cay30
      @Cay30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Epoch_Edge_ awesome. They have even more of a cultural difference than Mexico due to Bolivia's low population density. The mountainous West and center is where the Collas reside. It is predominantly indigenous majority, with a fairly large mestizo minority, and small white minority like Peru.
      The Eastern Lowlands is where the Cambas live. This region is overwhelming Mestizo with a large white minority and a tiny amerindian minority like Paraguay or the Central West of Brazil.
      The Tarija region is where the Chapacos live, it is mostly mestizo with some whites and have more in common with Northern Argentina. All three regions have distinct accents and cultural mores. Each region has more in common with the neighboring countries mentioned than with each other. 🇧🇴

  • @tech.noir83
    @tech.noir83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Northern Mexican here from Baja California, this just my understanding from conversations with friends and family so take that as you will, but separatist sentiments are widespread among native Northerns but since people from Southern states migrate continuously into the North it gets muted. However, as the southerners have northern kids they begin to identify with separatism. A lot of northerns would like to be independent or even be annexed by the USA as the only way to improve and get rid of the control from Mexico City. I think that the reason people hesitate on separating from Mexico is twofold, firstly most are not convinced that a northern Mexican nation would be viable due to lack of water and food production, it would be dependent of the USA to survive (which it is currently anyways). Secondly, those that would like to be annexed by the USA at same time fear that they would be discriminated and become second-class citizens and lose control over their lands to Americans settlers/migrants. Northern Mexicans also tend to be more conservative and distrust the liberal influences that would come into the area from the USA (I guess this might be a Baja California concern since we border California a blue state, it might not be the same for the rest of the northern state as they border more red states like Arizona and Texas). As Mexico City and the central states and cities become more liberal with feminism, lgbtq rights, socialism, atheism more Northerns want to separate because all of those ideas have significantly less appeal in the north were conservative (not just catholic but also evangelical, mormon and mennonite) and capitalistic free trade and individualism values are more common.

    • @cherry23072
      @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We do not want to be annexed to the United States, this is the biggest lie I have ever read. In fact, the new generation hates the United States more for many reasons. You are a traitor and an imitation.

    • @alexibm2477
      @alexibm2477 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cherry23072 JAJAJAJ, de que literalmente la única gente que conozco que odia a EUA todos son adultos mayores.

    • @miguelosci
      @miguelosci 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexibm2477
      Pues aqui en el U.S es lo contrario. Son los jovenes los que estan en contra o los que "odian" a EUA.

    • @alexibm2477
      @alexibm2477 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@miguelosci Irónico que odien a su propio país, no?

    • @juan-ko5hz
      @juan-ko5hz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yo soy de NL y tambien he tenido muchas conversaciones asi, la realidad es que nadie se quiere separar. Solo que no nos molesten tanto con las estupideces de cdmx

  • @cratecruncher4974
    @cratecruncher4974 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Mexico established independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century the countries of Central America were included in the new territory. But central leadership was so weak and underfunded the region quickly broke away to form their own independence. Chiapas is just a continuation of that sentiment in my view.

  • @carlosm.3426
    @carlosm.3426 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video but just a correction, Puebla is not part of Southern Mexico but part of Central Mexico. They have nothing in common with us not even cuisine wise. Southern Mexico is basically Veracruz, Campeche, Tabasco, Yucatan, Quintana Roo, Chiapas, Oaxaca and Guerrero. Even the south can get split between Southeastern Mexico and Southwestern Mexico. But Puebla has nothing to do with the South, they have more in common with Tlaxcala, Mexico City, Estado de Mexico and such.

  • @TheLimonadeboy
    @TheLimonadeboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quintana roo but you also highlighted yucatan???

    • @Epoch_Edge_
      @Epoch_Edge_  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My apologies to Yucatan. I realized I left it out after recording the audio.

  • @frescoservice5124
    @frescoservice5124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mexico looks beautiful 🤩

  • @anthonyparra9553
    @anthonyparra9553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Now do a video about the upcoming USA civil war

  • @Chuydelmex13
    @Chuydelmex13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIGHTING THE GOVERNMENT AND FIGHTING OUT SELFS WE WILL NEVER FIGHT OUT SELFS

  • @DanielHerrera-rl1vw
    @DanielHerrera-rl1vw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Parts of northern Mexico look like colorado which I guess is a desert 🐪 but it snows and has picea chihuahuana trees 🌲 which are chihuahua spruce. But maybe I don’t know what a desert is

  • @Adighiles
    @Adighiles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good video, there is a detail missing about the demographics. In many northern cities it's common to find people from other states. Monterrey, for example, has grown enormously in recent years. Likewise, some cities like Mérida have begun to grow and I have heard that many people from the center and north move there because of the low cost of living.
    Despite the differences, the country is slowly becoming a more homogeneous.

  • @RomarioArreola
    @RomarioArreola 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    2:10 Northern Mexico was Settled by The Spaniards from the Basque Regio between 1590-1700 The Northwest Mexicans of Sinaloa Sonora Chihuahua Baja California lower Baja California and Durango has the Highest Number of White population between the 17th and 19th century its White Population was Mainly of Spanish ancestry but during the 19th and 20th century other European Immigrants came to this part of Northern Mexico mainly from Spain Germany France Italy Greece Portugal Ireland Russia Uk Ireland also Anglo Americans and Canadians and other European Immigrants but not only did European immigrants settled in Northern Mexico but also Arabs with the Mexican State of Sinaloa having the Largest Arab Diaspora and Ancestry mainly from Lebanon Syria Northern Africa and other Arab Countries in Sonora Baja California and Sinaloa Chinese Filipinos Japanese also settled in this Area with Mexicali Baja California having the Most People of Chinese And Japanese Ancestry which Mexicali has the best Chinese Food 🍱 in all of Mexico

    • @carlosm.3426
      @carlosm.3426 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Largest Arab diaspora is in Mexico City not Sinaloa lol and if we are measuring this by percentage than Yucatan wins. Sinaloa barely has any Maronite churches 😂

    • @RomarioArreola
      @RomarioArreola 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlosm.3426 Sinaloa does have a large porcentaje of Arab diaspora

    • @Cesarhiguera664
      @Cesarhiguera664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@RomarioArreolain terms of numers the largest number of Lebanese descent is in CDMX, Puebla and Jalisco.

    • @carlosm.3426
      @carlosm.3426 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RomarioArreola it doesn't have the largest in Mexico, not even close, that is Mexico City, can you show me a data on the Arab diaspora in Mexico?

    • @RomarioArreola
      @RomarioArreola 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cesarhiguera664 can forget Tamaulipas Nuevo León Coahuila

  • @MidnightsDeluxe
    @MidnightsDeluxe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    90th sub

  • @Cesarhiguera664
    @Cesarhiguera664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am from the north but I love the south, it's really beautiful, especially the Yucatan and Chiapas.

    • @cherry23072
      @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Si son de México porque escriben en inglés? Si ellos quieren entendernos que lo traduzcan,ya dejen de acomodarse a ellos es un tremendo insulto que hagan esto

    • @Cesarhiguera664
      @Cesarhiguera664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cherry23072 sera porque el video esta en ingles? Hmmm 🤔

    • @cherry23072
      @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cesarhiguera664 por más inglés que esté ya existe la opción traducir comentario de forma automática,no tiene sentido 🙄

    • @juan-ko5hz
      @juan-ko5hz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cherry23072 eso existe solo en movil

  • @tonyazzaro9593
    @tonyazzaro9593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where's central Mexico in all of this such as Jalisco which has the second largest city in the country?

    • @juan-ko5hz
      @juan-ko5hz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jalisco is culturally and economically closer to the north

  • @jayamaya1251
    @jayamaya1251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I am northern Mexican I love my country but I hate how Mexico City takes basically all our resources and with our current president who only emphasizes all his programs to south Mexico.

    • @crystalgarcia2143
      @crystalgarcia2143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well for decades the corrupt presidents gave what ever money that they didn't steal to the northern states and nothing to the south

    • @PaulyWally30
      @PaulyWally30 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He only does that to have the South catch up after years of neglect. However, he is investing in the north. For instance, in Nuevo Leon, he's helping fund issues happening there. Claudia will continue his efforts and implement her own. It's going to take some time but it's already in motion the improvement of Mexico as a whole, not just a region.

    • @richbandicoot
      @richbandicoot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s doing that because the south was neglected for years. In the future, the North will get more of its tax revenue back since the south will be generating more than they do now

    • @eliasgarcia5090
      @eliasgarcia5090 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulyWally30yesss ❤

  • @cherry23072
    @cherry23072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Es fatidioso ver tantos mexicanos escribiendo en ingles tomando en cuenta que existe la opción traducir 🙄escriban en nuestro idioma real,que vergüenza

    • @alexibm2477
      @alexibm2477 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hermana, este video literalmente está EN INGLÉS. Qué esperabas?

    • @miguelosci
      @miguelosci 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Asta parece que les da vergüenza ser Mexicanos.

  • @crossfire7474
    @crossfire7474 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bella Ciao?

  • @roverworld7218
    @roverworld7218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yucatan, once it's nation (twice) and during Colonial times a Capitany General like Guatemala and Cuba, it's pretty "rebellious": they know these days Mexico City wont allow them autonomy so the government plays dumn (se hacen al tonto) and allow whatever "chilangos" planned to fail, then Mexico City finds itself in need of making x or y work and they propose an "alternative" to get it done, tired of failure Mexico City agrees and Yucatan does what it wants.

  • @grimnir4197
    @grimnir4197 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saludos desde Coahuila, tierra de dinosaurios 🦖🏜️🤠🇲🇽

  • @miguelargutz
    @miguelargutz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for talking about this. I have been doing it for years and everybody calls me crazy and anti patriotic.

  • @josecano326
    @josecano326 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I‘m from northern mexico, and I would love for my state to gain independence!

    • @user-nh8iy2qu7w
      @user-nh8iy2qu7w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      never loll

    • @josecano326
      @josecano326 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-nh8iy2qu7w we will see

    • @crystalgarcia2143
      @crystalgarcia2143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Mejor independizate tu y vete del estado y tambien del Pais

    • @josecano326
      @josecano326 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@crystalgarcia2143 mmmm no creo, creo que mejor se independice el estado:)

    • @user-nh8iy2qu7w
      @user-nh8iy2qu7w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@josecano326 como alguien del gdl me da risa lo creidos q son los regios JAJAJAJ solos no podrían

  • @Your.favorite.Senpaii
    @Your.favorite.Senpaii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Central Mex >>