Inq's Cipher Wheel
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Your host today has been
Michael Stevens
Edited by
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The notepad at 2:58 says:
"TO DO:
Film Cipher wheel video
Talk to doctor about corn
Pick up dry cleaning
Take cats for walk
Buy corn
Will the nightmares ever end?"
I couldn't understand the rest.
We need ⅛x (i mean 0.125x)
2:59
Next:
.... by BECK
...... ....... about "(idk is it Ears or bars)"
... ...... .. .. hear me
Ask neighbor about "ears"
Michael is like a more advanced version of Blues Clues
Vsauce4 = Inq
There actually is a meme channel called Vsauce 4.
Person. Thoughty2?
How to summon Vsauce4
Person. Despacito 2 confirmed.
Mαrbleious oh he did, did he? Rip in peace
4:55 look at the top of the paper
Jukka lmao falcon eyes
Michael’s real toy
ha haha omg lol
DONG
Lol. Dong!
teacher: what comes after 100
me: 101
teacher: then why did you write *Vsause1*
hey micheal, Vsauce here, we miss you :(
What do you mean miss him? He's right here!
1:30 - 1:49 just love the fact that you make these "fillers" in the videos ! I would love to see you just talk in a seminar or a ted talk or something because it seems like everything that you talk about is interesting and you make them not boring like so many others!
can someone make an online version of this in their free time lol
im sure it already exists somewhere out there.
please post on vsauce main
ChefGourmet I feel ya
*Michael* the way you were using the wheel, Walsingham would totally have your head. What you need to do is rotate the four wheels with each character (which direction and by how many ticks is part of the key). Still won't slow down the NSA, but will probably keep amateur cryptanalysts confounded.
So it’s actually just a complicated Caesar cipher
You need to add a “space” character to the wheel, otherwise the encrypted message is drastically easier to decipher.
Me'em Geetee'emvaneesotay!
Me=H
Em=I
Gee=W
Tee=E
Van=R
Ee=D
So=O
Tay=S
I love this channel
4:55 *M i c h a e l s t o y s*
inq-whipded
Corn, what a coincidence
4:36 does no one else see the phallic symbol on the notepad
I really need Curiosity Box in Mexico!!!!... please?!
Simpsons did it
4:38
Look at the paper
Hey, Vsauce! Inq here!
can you ship me out one of those curiosity octopi?
oh look it's a shill for the curiosity box
Ironically enough it was 12:50 when he said it was 10:50
4 15 14 7
D O N G
(the 4th letter is D, etc.) (old name of channel)
I am 100% sure that every word in that bucket said corn
choomatt there was only one piece of paper
Well he wasn't wrong then xD
lOl
I purchased it
You are correct
yes i think we all are
"michael's toys" intros are always so strange that they become hilarious.
Ozy Michael embraced the memes a long time ago. He's transcended memedom
Lol
It's on purpose my doggies
not only is michael smart but he has turned to the dank side
Sexy pic
"I'm gonna go with 99"
There was 69 right there, Michael!
right?!
nice.
Y E S
-69 is a demonitizable word- ignore me
Huh?
He didn't say Michael here idk if he's actually Michael
Fíl Fóstur He never says Michael here on DONG :(
The only logical conclusion is that this isn't the real Michael
It's not Michael, it's HowToBasic.
Kronomancer Yes
Actually I'm pretty sure it is in fact michael. I don't know how long you've been subscribed, but I've been subscribed to vsauce for quite some years there buddy. I think I would recognize Mic...
oh you were joking.
But what is a joke?
00:00 When you are desperately trying not to say „Hey VSauce, Michael here!“ xDxD
ye
Welcome to 4 15 14 7
@@gachastocks6151 I'm pretty sure that says DONG or DING, I'm not sure when they changed the name
@@Infest19 this is a completely separate channel. The vsauce intro is only for vsauce.
@@Infest19 the name is DONG. It is written as D!NG with an exclamation mark/point akin to swear words.
When michael say "hey vsauce, michael here" he refers to us as vsauce. But his channel name is vsauce. So are we vsauce or is he vsauce.
Things that keep me awake at night.
We are Vsauce. He is Michael Here.
Maybe he says vsauce micheal. Not vsauce, Micheal.
@@orecula he makes a small but obvious pause between Vsauce and Michael so no.
We and him are both Vsauce
Micheal is made of Vsauce
04 05 19 16 01 03 09 20 15
D E S P A C I T O
A legend has spoken
Ayy lmaooo
I bet dolan dark will steal this
At first, I thought you were reading the number sequence from Lost.
4 8 15 16 23 42
WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN MASON?
i feel like Michael forgot the password to vsauce
Yeah I know
He would never admit it since he is so good at codes and numbers. But his password to Vsauce was just too damn cryptic..
3pizza43 probably lmao.
I feel like I've seen this comment before
jenny you have, people have started stealing it now and Ive seen 3 different people comment on different videos the same thing
Are you sure that Michael hasn’t discovered Alien language?
StickMaster500 Michael is the alien, and the alien we all want
WE DIDNT DISCOVER ALIENS MATE
4 15 14 7
He is the alien...
I totally agree. Michael is an Alien sent in human form to drop some knowledge on a feeble minded species.
Since the cipher wheel is based on numerals you can further make the encrypted message harder to decipher. You can add rules to add, subtract, or perform any other mathematical steps in order to produce the accurate letter. For example, if you have it set so that for say the letter M, the outer most and second outer most rings are set to 2 and 7 respectively, and the unknown rule is to subtract the latter by the former, you would then write down 5 instead.
Even further, since each encrypted letter is made up of two symbols instead of one, you can write each letter vertically, but the entire word is written horizontally as normal. Like this for example, using the corn example:
5913
7925
Ciphers are fun.
Nope Naw isnt that the same cipher the germans used in WW2 named the Lorenz cipher (or Tunny as the british named it) just with a slight diffrences.
TO MENY Woooooorrrrrrddddddsssss
Yeah, add Caesar Box and what not? ❤️ And about mathematical operations, it's somewhat more complicated. More generally, you are asking for transforming the four numbers (a,b,c,d) to another n numbers, but note that the transformation has to be invertible. E.g, (a+b, a-b) is a good place to start exploring. Other complicated linear combinations, like (a+b, 2a-3b+c, c-d, a+d) are still invertible. That's common sense from linear Algebra, however, for non-linear transformations, more complicated explorations may be required.
Note: Without such transformation, the message, if a large one, e.g., a few sentences will be pretty easy to decipher, even without the wheel.
Yall here talking about ciphers meanwhile I'm remembering Gravity Falls and all of its codes
1:33 wrong its octopussies
Wrong it's you have problems
DogBeef yes
DogBeef wtf are you doing here 😂😂
the greek one is octopodes
No one CAREs!
"Does that mean I'm a dipus? A dipusal? Yes, it does" -Michael 2018
*-Micheal 1:40
your welcome
1:30 It’s octopussies
Human Person 007 wow
Sorry but because the word has become English it follows the rules of English and the plural is now octopi
That makes us Diepussies
Aaron H or Bipussies
following the rules of English technically the plural of octopus is octopuses, octopi would follow old latin rules that don't apply to English, hence why if you type octopi google even tries to auto correct it
What's the deal with Michael and Corn?
Probably lobbyist from the corn industry
Max Warner "young corn gets shucked"
Cornhub
I still remember the time in Mind Field when Michael was casually cooking corn.
You could say Micheal's a freak on a leash
Michael: Pffft, latinization of a Greek word.
*precedes to greekify a Latin word*
Might be illiterate, but I think its proceeds. yeah it is, precedes means to come before something.
@@porkbellycutlets427 he's right
Vsauce4 is Inq confirmed
SEE YOU THERE
Cyranek pls make more vids Cyranek i miss u
Is that his way of saying he's immortal?
Hey Cyranek
O H. H E L L O. T H E R E.
@@wellingtonzani1280 for real
wow this Michael guy should make his own channel
He Does Have His Own Channel It's Called Vsauce!!!
woosh
How Amazing What? No way!
Seal Sorry dude thought you were serious, now I realize it was sarcasm. My bad!😉
@@shaunar3117 r/oopsididntmeanto
This could be used to figure out who HowToBasic is
was*
will*
Inq is actually really cute.
WHERE CAN I GET ONE LIKE THAT?
Curiosity box
YOU WANT TO BUY VSAUCE 4
WTF
If you look up Inq plush, it should come up!
@@moonrabbit9621 I did and it is not possible to get the big one. Just the small one in the curiosity box
in the curiosity box
REMEMBER, REALITY IS AN ILLUSION THE UNIVERSE A HOLOGRAM BUY GOLD BYEEEE!
egassem sdrawkcaB egassem sdrawkcaB egassem sdrawkcaB egassem sdrawkcaB
Gold is just a hologram too.
Elias 676 Gravity Falls lol
Gravity Falls fans are everywhere.
A X O L O T L MY TIME HAS COME TO BURN, I INVOKE THE ANCIENT POWER THAT I MAY RETURN
I miss those days when he use to say "hey vsauce, Micheal here"
Kaden Madier those are old videos man
Kaden Madier 6 months ago :(
Honestly, the greeting doesn't matter much to me. I just enjoy the content.
SHUBHAM KHARE wisecrack, bro
"Let's start INQripting" 🤔
4:50 the real DONG
whoa chill out spaghett, this man is simply pointing out an easter egg
Damn that's sneaky.
5:15
yes its a real dong, a dingus to be true
this is some next level alien shiiiiiiidd :DDD
This wheel is missing "space". That means you are giving away the lengths of all your words to everyone.
One way around that is to repeat the last letter of each word using another corresponding character in the cypher line to signify a space/period/end. For example, use the inner-most character as a space, period, or end.
Dook, it makes deciphering even easier. If you would make analysis and guess at least a one boundary (which would be easier as well, as "another number" means that if there's XX, it can't be one), you know that in word (with space on the end) 123456, 5 must be 6. Last letter of the word will be of course just a subset of alphabet, so probably you'd get word like 7686 and it means that 8=5=6. Then if there's 1454, then 4=5=8=6 and the game is over - you have already relative to themselves orientation of rings and you are left with 33 combinations. In fact even with a single guess like that you already have sure position of two rings relative to each other which possibly would be game over for cipher as well.
krzysiu.net you're missing the whole point of repeating the last letter *_INSTEAD_* of having spaces.
** *** ***** **** *******? Didn’t think so.
Unless you don't use spaces.
Me at the start of the video: “Hey! Vsauce, Michael here.”
The video: *WELCOME TO 4 15 14 7*
4 15 14 7: DONG
I thought it was some random numbers!!!
@@ebrucan7161
"Randomness isn't really that random"
- Michael
Oh my God, thank you! This was driving me crazy, I thought it was a configuration at first before I realized it was a message I couldn’t solve.
5:15 *nice*
That's a great shirt. I always wondered how complex condoms are.
Saninsince992 oh my god why did you have to say this, now I can’t unsee it
4:36 look at Michael's sketch pad.
*OwO*
Ya I guess we some dirty minds 😂😂
5:15
Read the channel's name.
The real *_DONG_* in this episode.
lol
Aliens find this in the future and start thinking we worshipped corn
You DON'T?!?!? INFIDEL!!!
We kinda do tho
Corn is awesome, we make fuel, popcorn, bird food, even kitty litter from it
not dipus or bipus
but bipod
Latin / English: biped
nah am pretty sure its tidepod
bepis
It's biped :/
featherless biped
Wait, so spiders could be called "octopus" as well ?.
By the way, "Inq" has to be the best and most creative name for the octopus.
"You know what?"
*"i c a n d o w h a t i w a n t"*
1:40 Has Michael just never heard the word Bipod? Bipedal? That's already a word we have.
Micah Philson technically bipus still makes sense
8:49 Also, I thought of date and time way before he mentioned it. As I'm sure alot of ppl did. And I'm surprised he assumes no one would think about that.
Sean Cynical he just mentioned an example, it's not that deep
So are you saying English worksn't like that? Could'ven't you say so more clearly? I think he's got a language degree, so he prob can English good.
@Micah Philson I'm *very* sure he is aware of the words Bipod and Bipedal. That has nothing to do with what he said, he was simply putting worth another word that could be used to describe a human that was related to the octopus, that doesn't mean he is unaware of the real term.
Im buying this box
Is this box a monthly subscription on a 1 time purchase? Please respond.
Water Momantic annual subscribers get a new box every quarter (every three months) BUT you can also just buy one as a one time purchase. Oh, you can also subscribe for just 2 quarters at a time!
Thank you, I greatly appreciate your answer.
Now we know that Michael reads everything!
Jacob Tiller or this is a assistant ?
4:44 look at the hidden message on the paper
I thought I was the only one who saw that 😂
bring back jake chudnow music
jake chudnow should make new music first
anyone know the names of the songs in this video?
The most important comment
That's right, this xilophone music is a bit ridiculous
Christina Huang this is a dong and if I am right he puts Jake chudnow music in his main vsause channel
"Corn can be found."
- Michael, 2018
ＣＯＲＮ ＧＵＮ コラ印
"you can read them all in a mError"
this is so cool. I only wish I had a friend to write encrypted messages too....
1:43 so we are bipuses .
Zogurtool actually we are bipod puses
bipussies
bipusidies :)
All joking aside, we are bipeds
4:39 And there you can see Michael's real toy.
Loool his real DONG
Lol!!
The connection between tim from grand illusions and Michael gets stronger every day.
Now you got me wanting a collab between them
Vsauce from the Nile.
What we did not know, is that there is a mirror image of the universe on that t-shirt to explain that ;)
seems like they are out of ideas.
i feel like after 10 videos he will be reviewing a stone
That "ohh" at 1:29 was adorable
A good addition could be: set the wheel to an initial position. Choose a finite sequence S, wrapped around. After every 5i letters, rotate the 4 wheels S_4i, S_(4i+1), S_(4i+2), S_(4i+3) times respectively, and continue in this way.
A second level of security will redefine additional 4 rotations for the 4 wheels every 20 characters in the ciphered text, and you are good to go :D
Thank you Micheal, very cool!
SixSuicideSheep thank you kanya very cool
I don't think there were multiple words in there. I think he made a bunch of papers with corn written on them.
"to someone who doesn't know the code" *video ends*
I know Michael once said he likes doing DONG more than making original VSauce videos. But i really miss those gotta say. How about a second take on the Banach-Tarski-Paradox? Really like seeing Michael do these kinds of mindfuck themed videos :))))
Petition for Inq to have a personal Dong channel where our minds are penetrated with Inquisitive Dongs by octopuses.
Wish I earned an income so I could subscribe to the Curiosity Box...
Prashanth Sharma b
So when are you posting a video on the vsauce channel?
It belongs to TH-cam Red now.
Person. No it's not
Yeah. I wish.
yeah, i miss his scientific videos.
Right!? I seriously miss the kinds of videos he uploaded there. If it truly belongs to TH-cam Red now, then he should just take of Vsauce2 and/or make Vsauce4 and continue. :P
12:58 *CRONCH*
0:10
I think it's time we blow this scene
Get everybody and the stuff together
Ok, three, two, one, let's jam!
3:20 *Michael covers half the symbols and the music intensifies. He is turning us into conspiracy theorists.
*Hey vsauce! Michael here!* :(
All I want is an answer to this question. What percentage of each box is donated to the Alzheimer Foundation? I used to donate to the United Way until I found out how little of the total money donated made it to the intended purpose. Do guys make a video, or reply to me here. One of the other works. Break it down to cost over donation if you want or feel you need to justify a small percentage. If you had of started with help support the channel by buying a box or four I'd be doing that right now (I already went and looked at the cost for a Canadian) instead of requesting this. But seeing as I am going to send money to a foreign country for research to an illness that is close to me ( father) I'd like to know. I don't care where the breakthrough happens as long as it happens. Hardest thing to see is a man, my father, suffer from two things I wish no one should ever have happen. He had Alzheimer's and then he had a stroke!
Ah yes, my favorite cooking show made of by and for teens like me
Hey Michael I had a PS to go with the last comment I just wrote I was wondering now I know you donate a percentage of each one of the quarterly curiosity boxes but my question is this now is Alzheimer's very similar to dementia or vice versa it means a lot to me because my grandmother has both Alzheimer's and Dementia so the work you do truly touches my heart and you explain things very well and easy to understand so I'm hoping you get this and maybe it could even be the topic of a future video or just somehow you know an answer thank you and keep up the good work.
Steven Louton "Dementia is a syndrome, not a disease. ... Dementia is a group of symptoms that affects mental cognitive tasks such as memory and reasoning. Dementia is an umbrella term that Alzheimer's disease can fall under. It can occur due to a variety of conditions, the most common of which is Alzheimer's disease."
Steven Louton Alzheimer's runs in my family, I know it's hard to cope with. Stay strong and God bless
He has a video on that topic, "Alzheimer's and the brain", but I don't remember if that really answers this question
When we getting an actual episode of Vsauce? If you aren't counting the youtube red videos, its been a long time...
1:33 How can you blow past you destroying everything I thought I knew so frivolously!
Your octopodes are cute
I become somewhat of a corn obsessed myself as of lately
cele42 it's happening. Be safe.
Vsauce why do you keep talking about corn? I am worried michael.
Your favorite way the Universe will end is the heat death??? I would have guessed you were more of a big crunch kind of guy? hmmm.
5:15 nice
From the perspective of someone who knows a little bit about actual cryptography....... This is indeed, very much, a toy.
oh god, the second half completely throws away any attempt to encrypt the message, and just obfuscates it...
I am interested, can you elaborate? Just a little?
+Anna Ok! First a warning: I'm not an expert, just a programmer.
some definitions:
cipher: an algorithm everybody can know and is needed to encrypt and decrypt the message
secret: something only sender and recipient knows
key: the bits (data) used to encrypt/decrypt messages using the cipher. It should ether be secret, or based on the secret.
I will be talking about symmetric ciphers here - i.e. you encrypt and decrypt with the same key.
Now, what he presents is essentially caesar cipher, with 4 opions for each shifted letter. (That cipher is very weak to frequency analysis and can even be easily bruteforced. Even I could break it, and Inq's cipher is only slightly better.)
Obfuscation means, that there is no special secret, and instead the whole cipher must be secret.
Without explaining them much, here are some basic prnciples:
- secret should be practically impossible to guess - (has similar properties to a password) Should be long enough that attacker cannot try all possible values (or it would take millions and millions of years) - trying all possible values for secret is called bruteforce attack, and if it's the only possible attack and will take too long to be practical, the cipher is considred secure.
- cipher should be public - if your cipher is good, the secret is enough to be secret, and others can help you find in your cipher (that's how real cryptography works, see OpenSSL) - another reason is that best secret should be as random as possible, and the cipher obviously cannot be random. - also, it's very specific and not just few bits, so it's hard to keep it secret: if it's designed to be public already, leaking the cipher will not hurt you in any way (even if you choose to keep it proprietary or something)
- his cipher includes the element of a person 'choosing' which shift (wheel) to use, that is never a good thing, as people will not choose randomly and thus, benefits of having 4 wheels will be even smaller. Essentially, it's possible to predict which options you will choose if I know how you encrypted messages in the past. This does not matter in this cipher, as it can be brute forced easily each time, but it's a bad principle to teach.
- he talked about 'but how do we share the secret?' - this is where he embedded the secret into the encrypted message, hence there was no secret and it became just obfuscation.
- sharing a key in reality is done through asymmetric cryptography, that lets you secretly share short messages without sharing any secret prior to that, only a form of trust. It's more complicated, so I'm not going to go into that, but in practice: you share the secret (completely random each time) by encrypting it in this way, and then your communication uses that random secret (and from it derived key) to encrypt / decrypt the data.
- it's generally a bad idea to use the same key multiple times - (not for all ciphers, but again, good thing from educational point of view) - the way to solve that is in simplified terms: make part of the key random, and share it with the encrypted message. That way, an attacker cannot use any guesses from the previous message on the next one...
- some not-so-important details: the only time he used randomness in this video was to choose the message to encrypt - you need randomness in cryptography but never for the actual message - he should have used something like dice to select the wheel if anything...
- his intended usage of the cipher wheel doubles the length of the message - that's pretty inefficient
- his idea of using each digit of time to set one wheel is also quite sad: the original key space is 26 options for each wheel, time is only 3 options for first wheel (if you use 24h format) 10 for second, 6 for third and 10 for last. That'a a big reduction... - again, doesn't matter, since the key is embedded in the encrypted message, so it's just obfuscated, but not a good principle to teach.
- even if we imagined we don't have computers, and all must be done by humans, to train our minds, and we don't care about it being secure against an attacker with a computer, this still does not offer pretty much any good principles for cryptography.
- There is a lot more, but if you are interested, there is a lot of information online and need to get some work done. XD
- Though, to give him some credit, the mirrored numbers are pretty cool: easy to read, write, yet not obvious. Nice simple way to obfuscate digits.
- Dammit, now I want to design a cipher for kids based on a bit better principles (although, obviously still far from perfect: there many things that doing without a computer would just be horrible XD) ..... but I don't have time for that. XD oh well
Have a nice day ^^ (and I hope someone actually read this XD (and I'm not too wrong anywhere in it...))
I'm dying to know what sort of things Anna does. And what she looks like.
Martin Verrisin I agree it is a toy, but designed I think for someone to get intrigued by cryptography without the layman getting overwhelmed by it, rather than making an intricate cipher
Michael is one of the few people I would love to meet one day. Such a lovely and funny guy. Makes me smile every time he talks so enthusiastically about his toys.
"This is box number 8 by the way"
In the description you say it's box number "VII" (7) - is this another way to encrypt the wheel?!
We want classic vsauce back
5:18 the moment Michael betrayed us all
*I AM THE OCTOPUS*
🐙💕
You're a bipus
Coo Coo Kachoo
ranch it up
ARE YOU LONELY
Hmmm what's this on the edge of the paper at 4:57
a rocket ship, wait no............................... oooh..... ohhhhh..... OOOHHHHHHH I JU- AAAAAAAAAH GET IT OUT! WYHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*D O N G*
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