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Fun fact: Mulan’s singing voice is the same as Jasmine’s from Aladdin! Lea Salonga is the only voice actress that can claim to have voiced two Disney “princesses”
“How many men does it take to deliver a message?” _”One.”_ Modern Disney could NEVER achieve this type of tone. Mulan is probably in my top 3 favorite Disney movies of all time.
When Mulan’s father drops the sword and sigil to embrace his daughter is one of my favourite scenes of all time. Such a good climax to their relationship dynamic
I liked the theory, that the spirit of the great dragon went into mulan, while she sat with him. You see his image and reflections in the sequence that followed. So when mushu tried to wake the dragon, it was just a stone statue, because the spirit of the dragon fused with mulan.
That's a cool theory, but it does slightly take away that Mulan would be capable of going on that journey to find her place on her own, which is something I've interpreted as one of the key points of the story, that SHE finds her place despite everything going against her.
@@DeianJones94 to add onto solidsnake's comment: you can also think of the great dragon as the mental push she needed to stop feeling hopeless and embrace a more "no, fuck this!" attitude. sometimes you just need that flash to push you in the right direction. i think it's very obvious that the great dragon isn't, like, doing the training for her as she clearly sucks for much of it until, again, she has that flash of "fuck this"
@@DeianJones94 In Asian mythology it's not always the case that a dragon helps certain people: Sometimes when a heroic fate is awakened, a dragon (or some other sacred creature) comes to that person, to let the world know they are the chosen one.
One of my favorite things about this movie is how, when the army sees the destruction of the huns (abruptly ending the "Girl Worth Fighting For" song), there are no more musical numbers after that. The movie feels all fun and bright, with the thought of war kind of being in the background. That scene happens, and the characters and viewers are slapped in the face with some reality and, from then on, they...get down to business. XD
That's a great point that I hadn't really ever considered. There's also the duality of that song's refrain "A girl worth fighting for", where not only could they be referring to a partner back home, but also the little girl in the village whose doll gave the Huns the clues that led to the village's ultimate destruction. To not only fight for the honor of loved ones back home, but to protect the innocent.
Mulan is the perfect example of a strong female lead character who people can get behind and support. She earned what she was. Flawed, imperfect, but stood for what she believed in and in service to her family. She wasnt a perfect character just cuz she was a woman and had no struggles.
While there are some characters I’ve seen filed under the latter category you mentioned that I personally disagree on including in such, I can definitely agree that Mulan is a character who definitely unambiguously fits in the former category you were talking about :)
Fun Fact: Lea Salonga the singing voice of both Mulan and Princess Jasmine also auditioned for Mulans speaking voice but wasn't cast because she couldn't get her voice deep enough as 'Ping.'
*Honestly, as much as I love how sassy Mulan's grandma is, my favorite part of the movie is Yao roasting Chi-Fu in the song "A Girl Worth Fighting For".* *Chi-Fu: 🎶I've a girl back home who's unlike any other🎶* *Yao: 🎶Yeah, the only girl who'd love him is his mother 🎶* *Just the look on his face ALONE is priceless.* 😆😆🤣🤣
I have always said Shan-Yu is the best Disney villain. His motives are simple. They are exactly the same as Ursula's from The Little Mermaid. "Oh, you don't want me in your little kingdom? Okay. I'm gonna regret that decision." He doesn't talk too much. You don't have to worry about him monologuing. The man didn't pull some underhanded tactics like Ursula did. He built an army and came on full force. When he stormed the Great Wall he gave them a moment to set the signal, so all of China would be able to put up their best defence. He didn't want to face them while they were unprepared. He wanted a show of force. "Perfect. 😈" Also of note. He RESPECTS his men. Something you don't see in any other Disney Villain in my memory. When the falcon brings the doll to them, he tosses it to his men, because he knows they are smart enough to piece things together without him spelling it out to them. And when the majority of his men die in the avalanche, man is rightfully pissed. And that leads us to the final showdown, and my final point. When Mulan reveals herself as, "The soldier from the mountains," that killed his men. In a society that would have killed her simply for posing as a male to save her father... Does he make a single remark about her being a woman, try to make her feel insignificant? Nah. Dude marks her as his primary enemy, and gives her the fight she deserves. The man is THE Ultimate Disney Villain. And more people need to give the man his due.
perfectly said, but he's not the best disney villain, that's Demona Wingfang (Gargoyles tv series), for "reasons", laughs. He's the best disney villain, when excluding Demona, hehe
Ming Na-Wen, voice of Mulan is the first person to complete the Disney trifecta, with her role as Fennec Shand in Star Wars, and Melinda May in Agents of Shield! AoS is actually my favourite marvel show ever, and in my opinion , is one of the most underrated shows of all time (due to it's slow start) but i am sure you two would love it if you gave it a chance!
Definitely wouldn’t recommend individual vids for AoS, but rather arc videos…once winter soldier kicks in the show actually becomes good, before that it’s honestly painful AoS at its best (LMDs, Hydra sim) is some incredibly strong TV tho
Some backstory to mulan. Most militia in china in this era were just farmers. They have their own arms and were expected to fight for their country but have no formal training (generally). In larger families, they have enough funds to train males to wield a weapon and horse riding. As for mulan going in place of her father, I've heard they keep records based on the head of family rather than individuals. Not sure on that though.
Your commentary on hyper individualism vs selflessness is also examined well in Crazy Rich Asians. The film does a good job of not villainizing either philosophy, but instead showing how they differ when it comes to ambition and purpose.
@PatrickDaviswimiwamwamwazzle I love that they show how well Shan Yu's henchman are trained. When examining the doll, the little details which revealed their enemies' location. But for me, especially Shan Yu answering "Perfect" when told that all of China was made aware of his presence.
He's the best for me because he represents realistic terror. Most of the classic Disney villains feel more like plot devices, like "Ooh I'm so evil and menacing, only to be felled by a hero." Shanyu and Frollo? They be talking real shit.
When Bob Iger inducted Ming Na-Wen as a Disney Legend (same year as RDJ) He stated she is the only person to be a Disney princess (Mulan), in Star Wars (Fenic Shan), and in Marvel (Melinda "The Cavalry" May, in Agents Of Shield) She's a massive Star Wars fan even going to Comic Cons as princess Leia. You guys should react to Agents of Shield it's up with Daredevil as the best Marvel show and Brad Winderbaum Marvel's head of TV and streaming is a fan of the show and says they are looking into reviving or revisiting it after Daredevil. And without events in season 2 Age of Ultron would be VERY different, if it happened at all!
I love 90s Disney!! If Jen hasn't seen Hunchback of Notre Dame and you guys want something a little more adult for a Disney movie that would be a great movie to React to. I think Jen may be surprised by how dark Disney could be
Mulan will always be my favorite Disney movie, no matter what. Only the animated one though the live action doesn't exist to me. I feel it was a good movie to those who felt out of place a little, and showed them they'll probably be alright in life.
This is one of my all time favorite disney animated movies! I saw this in theaters when I was a kid and I have rewatched it sooooooo many times. I'll never get tired of this movie!
I always loved the detail that Shan Yu doesn't care that Mulan is a woman nor does he feel any embarrassment that his horde was destroyed by a woman. He only sees her as an enemy soldier. It's worth noting that Huns were surprisingly egalitarian when it came to genders. Although it is strange that the writers picked the Huns as the enemy out of all the central Asian tribes they could've picked, especially since Huns never waged war on China.
There is a theory that the Huns that invaded Europe were direct descendants of the Xiongnu, which did have quite a bit of conflict with China. Although there is no solid evidence in favor of it. Also, the setting of the Chinese legend of Mulan is usually hundreds of years later than the conflicts with the Xiongnu.
Came to the comments to find this! When Shan Yu sees Mulan's hair as it was, his response is merely, "The soldier from the mountains." That's it. There's nothing more to it. Love it!
One of the best Disney Animated Movies from the Disney Renaissance Era. I still remember like it was yesterday when I watch this in theaters. One of the best movie experiences during my childhood. 😁
every time I hear "I'll make a man out of you" I think about how my sister played softball for our high school and she was the only one to have played before so every game was just a brutal loss. During warm ups for one game, the other team was blasting music (Lots of teams usually do, and they were home team so it made sense). That song played and as it said "you're the saddest bunch I've ever met" she pointed out to her teammates (not in a spiteful manner, the knew they weren't good by that point lol) But the best soundtracks for Disney movies go to either Brother Bear or Treasure planet for me. Tarzan is good too but I'm not as big of a fan of the story so... But Treasure Planet sound track is done by the lead singer of the Goo Goo Dolls (which I love) and Brother Bear done by Phil Collins ((like Tarzan) Which I love). They're both have the first songs from movies I actually bought. Heck, I bought the whole brother bear soundtrack (only like 3 are mainly/only instrumental)
I love Mulan so much. My favorite thing about her outside of the movie is that she changed the rules of being a Disney princess. They originally had it so you had to be royalty or marry into royalty in the movie. After Mulan, they added that you can commit a heroic act to be a Disney princess.
I love Mulan. I grew up watching this movie a lot. Mulan is one of the only animated female Disney character I got attached to growing up, I never really cared for Sleeping Beauty and all those others. I have to say, most men nowadays respond to a strong female role as "woke" but let's grow up people. I like women who are bada$$, not to mention I make some pretty bada$$ female characters in the books I'm writing. Mulan is such an inspiration, so I'm glad to see Jen reacting to the movie.
You wanna know why people (not just men) complain about woke stuff? Compare both Mulans, this one and the live action: this one, Mulan becomes a hero by becoming one from effort and sense of sacrifice; the live action, she was born special and fated to greatness. Guess which one supposedly "anti-woke" people like the most and which one they despise.
@@TimothyMills77 Then don't, don't waste your time. But believe me, no one dislikes this Mulan because it has a strong badass woman.... While that argument was attempted with the live action Remake. It was dumb then, and it is dumb now.
Like Holden said, Mulan is a great character because she didn't do anything to prove something, she did it to protect her father and family. That's what is different from modern female characters, now it's all about proving that they're the best just cause they're female.
Yes and no. Mulan admits during the 2nd act low point she did it in part to prove to herself there’s something worthwhile when she looks in the mirror. Sure, it’s not meant to be her proving to men “I’m a badass” or something like that, but she was trying to prove to herself something.
which modern female characters do that with intent, not just because you personally perceive it that way? because that distinction makes a lot of difference. it just seems a bit of a silly thing to complain about considering men have made male characters for centuries whose only redeeming quality is being a manly-man self insert of themselves.
@@mels607 That's a good question. I feel like I've heard examples given, but they're not things I watch. Or they could be misinterpreted. Like "Let it Go", in Frozen, I think feels to me like it's meant to be a villain song. She basically says she's pleased to use her power now, even though she clearly hurt people, and could be seen as adding that she's going to avoid people because they suck basically. And yet she's not a villain and the feeling many have is that it's a celebratory song or even a Gay Liberation Anthem. (Read on) However the movie as a whole I think is not saying Elsa even means "It's liberating to say 'screw you guys I'm going to create my own better reality' hurray for me!" I think it's maybe more like "Me and Society don't work well together, so it's maybe good for us to break-up." And by the end the movie mostly says the song was wrong anyway. That Elsa does have responsibilities to other people and not just to her own desires. Or WandaVision. Many felt it said that Wanda was a hero of the series. But the only character who said that, Rambeau, was dealing with her own grief and maybe over-identifying with Wanda. (I do fault the show, though I liked it, for not making it a bit clearer that Rambeau's speech is her own views and probably not that valid.) Wanda at the end is more a troubled woman who shouldn't be condemned, as the series is unclear how competent or intentional she was in her actions plus she shows an ability to reform, but certainly not praised either. And at the end of the series she's a fugitive. She is maybe not directly "punished", in the series, but really how would one punish someone with her powers? Still I could maybe understand why someone could come away from these two projects thinking Frozen says men are awful and women are better off fleeing from men to pursue their own self-actualization. (It's not saying that, but "Let it Go" being so popular and the one male love-interest making an abrupt villain-turn may explain it.) WandaVision says morality does not apply to traumatized women who can basically torture whoever they want, even other women, so long as they stop before it gets too bad and it was therapeutic for them in the moment. (I don't think it says that, though I do think it's maybe less clear on what it's saying than Frozen.)
It's funny that if you showed someone who was educated in China this movie they will laugh at the hair cutting scene. Since about 1000BC no one in China was meant to cut their hair as your body was seen to be given to you by your ancestors and it was taboo to hair your hair. For men it expected to keep your long hair neat by tying it up in a bun at the top. For women there was more variety throughout the dynasties, so ironically, there was more of a chance women would cut their hair compared to men. This tradition ended in the 1600s with the Qing Dynasty as the Manchus invaded China. Their traditional hair style for men was a shaved top and a long queue at the back. In order to maintain control over the lands, they mandated that all Chinese donned this hairstyle, or face execution. Many actually resisted at the cost of their lives due to tradition.
One of those movies were was around when the marketing was in full gear, saw it in theaters, got the Happy Toys (they were character spinning tops, which i never got to work) owned the VHS when it was new, had the soundtrack (True to your heart by 98 degrees and Stevie Wonder is hits) and it's the movie that got me to pay attention to the previews more, and music videos (because Inspector Gadget was around that time too, and did the same thing for it).
12:07 technically it’s not a “cover”. Jackie Chan voiced Li Shang in both the Cantonese and Mandarin dubs of the movie. (His first language is Cantonese, as he is from Hong Kong.)
This really is one of the better (if not THE best) animated Disney movies they made. I also note it is one of the few where the main character isn’t an orphan. The live action adaptation though… woof. (The American one, not the Chinese one)
the live action one destroyed the message...she was just born special. this one, she grows and learns. She starts to do it in the live action one and it's just tossed away, horrible message.
Interesting fact: Ming-Na Wen does the speaking voice and Lea Salonga does the singing for Mulan. They shared one other role: Ming-Na played Lien Hughes in the daytime soap opera As The World Turns from 1988-1991, then the character was written off. When the show brought the character back in 2001, Lea played the part. (By that time Ming-Na was a regular on ER.)
yep, mulan has always been one of my favorite disney princesses. i think it's notable that she is even considered a disney princess at all, because she wasn't one to start out and doesn't marry a prince, so she never becomes one either. but she is an official disney princess. she's just too badass not to be allowed that title. also even though romance was definitely not the focus of the movie (something i really appreciate as someone who dislikes romance and the genre in general) she is still a great example of a strong female character who shows that women can still be strong AND have romance, the two are not mutually exclusive and romance isn't a lack of strength (which is often the first thing some people will take away from a female character's story if they're trying to portray them as strong/independent). also li shang my bi king
Fun bit for me. My first dog's name was Mushu. At the first visit to the vet, they were like, "oh like mushu pork?" It must have been close to lunch for her to think like that.
Both movies are a huge part of my childhood - but Mulan is so special to me! It's so funny, the music is great, memorable characters - and I honestly love the battle scene in the pass - the moment the smoke clears to reveal Shan-Yu before the army descends is so good
Another fun fact, while I’ll make a man out of you was officially sung by Jackie Chan for disneys Chinese audiences, the English male singing voice is tv legend Donny osmond!
The lyric "Who is that girl staring right back at me" was referenced in Ms. Marvel. Also, Mulan is voiced by Ming-Na Wen who also played Fenec Shaand in Star Wars The Mandalorian and Agent May in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
One of my favorite theories is that when Mulan went out to the dragon statue in the rain, the spirit of the dragon entered her, in a way. That’s why he doesn’t awaken when mushu comes out with a gong, it’s spirit is already in Mulan
Mulan is one of my top five movies of all time. If Jen wants another great animated movie that doesn't focus on a romantic storyline, Big Hero 6 is fantastic
Also, the villain Shun Yu was the only one to treat mulan the same regardless of her sex. When she pulled her hair back to reveal who she was to him, he only cared that she was the soldier from the mountain, and attacked
I'll always remember how Jen didn't like A Bug's Life lol was on a big streak of watching animated movies and loving all of them it just makes me laugh that she finally found an animated movie that she didn't care for and the good streak was over I just mentioned this because I remember that Jen didn't like animated movies as much before and now she is liking them a lot personally love that movie but I understand why she doesn't like it it's one of my favorite reviews that you guys have done together by the way I have been here ever since my friend watches the episodes when you guys watch all the movies in one series in one big video I think the first reaction I ever watched was Star wars I'm a big fan of your channel thanks for all of the awesome videos you have made thank you Holden your channel rules
On a technical note, that scene of the Hun army charging down the mountainside was groundbreaking animation -- getting hundreds of characters to move independently.
Shan Yu's eyes are that way because in the original script he was able to see through the eyes of his hawk Hayabusa and they just never changed the original design when that part of the script was changed.
I absolutely love Mulan, she is the type of "strong woman" that we want to see more often. This came from a time when "girl power" wasn't all up in your face and putting the other gender down just to prop the woman up, it handled itself with dignity and respect, which is practically non-existent nowadays. Her true power came out when she embraced her femininity, instead of saturating herself in masculine stereotypes to appear strong, modern stuff needs to take a lot of notes from this movie.
Agreed. I also love that she overcomes these challenges not by being physically strong, but by thinking of solutions and plans to overcome those challenges and win battles.
7 average men 146 lbs each 1 woman = 100 lbs 1horse 930lbs Cricket 8 g Iguana (mushu) 6lbs 2,058lbs not including armor weight, so pos was lifting around 2,100 pounds alone
1:48 I absolutely love the prince of Egypt so much. Between it and Mulan it’s hard to say which one is better. Idk any other movies that were made in 1998, but definitely one of those 2 would be the best.
I think you should do Treasure Planet next, its a great movie of this Disney era and for me its the best of all of them , maybe its just nostalgia talking
mulan's dad doesn't die though, there's a sequel & he's in it. I don't think he was sick/dying, just badly injured from a past war & wouldn't have survived another.
He states his reason for not killing her is because she saved his life earlier so he owed her a debt. Unless you mean the Xiongnu and I think he just didn't kill her because he didn't succeed at doing so.
I looked that up once! Why the great stone dragon never woke up lol there are just theories some say Mushu killed him when he broke it others say Mulan was the spirit of the dragon the whole time i like the latter explanation😂👍🏾
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Now you gotta watch Big Hero 6 lol
Fun fact: Mulan’s singing voice is the same as Jasmine’s from Aladdin! Lea Salonga is the only voice actress that can claim to have voiced two Disney “princesses”
@@phengmoua2389 😍
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This is like pitting security guards against an army of American Civil Wars.
Jen: *never seen Mulan*
Me: DISHONOR ON YOU! DISHONOR ON YOUR COW!
“How many men does it take to deliver a message?”
_”One.”_
Modern Disney could NEVER achieve this type of tone.
Mulan is probably in my top 3 favorite Disney movies of all time.
Its in my top 10 favorite movies *period*. Absolute 10/10
@@johannesjonsson3919facts
"Never more than 12"
Modern Disney could...just as long as they leave the creators the fuck alone.
When Mulan’s father drops the sword and sigil to embrace his daughter is one of my favourite scenes of all time. Such a good climax to their relationship dynamic
I liked the theory, that the spirit of the great dragon went into mulan, while she sat with him. You see his image and reflections in the sequence that followed. So when mushu tried to wake the dragon, it was just a stone statue, because the spirit of the dragon fused with mulan.
That's a cool theory, but it does slightly take away that Mulan would be capable of going on that journey to find her place on her own, which is something I've interpreted as one of the key points of the story, that SHE finds her place despite everything going against her.
@@DeianJones94 She can do all that, the great dragon could just have give her a hand as her guardian spirit.
@@DeianJones94 to add onto solidsnake's comment: you can also think of the great dragon as the mental push she needed to stop feeling hopeless and embrace a more "no, fuck this!" attitude. sometimes you just need that flash to push you in the right direction. i think it's very obvious that the great dragon isn't, like, doing the training for her as she clearly sucks for much of it until, again, she has that flash of "fuck this"
@@DeianJones94 In Asian mythology it's not always the case that a dragon helps certain people: Sometimes when a heroic fate is awakened, a dragon (or some other sacred creature) comes to that person, to let the world know they are the chosen one.
@@DeianJones94it’s the strength of that dragon spirit that gave her the push. Everything else was all her.
when i was in army basic training i would sing ''i'll make a man out of you'' in my head all of the time. it got me through all of our pt runs lol
In navy boot camp we sang it while cleaning the compartment
One of my favorite things about this movie is how, when the army sees the destruction of the huns (abruptly ending the "Girl Worth Fighting For" song), there are no more musical numbers after that. The movie feels all fun and bright, with the thought of war kind of being in the background. That scene happens, and the characters and viewers are slapped in the face with some reality and, from then on, they...get down to business. XD
It makes it more of a gut punch that the song just cuts off from one of the more fun songs to just the devastation of the military and village.
That's a great point that I hadn't really ever considered. There's also the duality of that song's refrain "A girl worth fighting for", where not only could they be referring to a partner back home, but also the little girl in the village whose doll gave the Huns the clues that led to the village's ultimate destruction. To not only fight for the honor of loved ones back home, but to protect the innocent.
Mulan is the perfect example of a strong female lead character who people can get behind and support. She earned what she was. Flawed, imperfect, but stood for what she believed in and in service to her family. She wasnt a perfect character just cuz she was a woman and had no struggles.
While there are some characters I’ve seen filed under the latter category you mentioned that I personally disagree on including in such, I can definitely agree that Mulan is a character who definitely unambiguously fits in the former category you were talking about :)
Key word is flawed. How did the live action mess this up so badly 🤦♀️
Mulan, probably the highest body count of any Disney princess
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This sound really weird with no context
You would think so. If not for Tiana’s bad batch of Jambalaya that resulted in fatal food poisoning all across New Orleans.
Should have said kill count, since body count have different meaning
@@jet047only in a certain context
"Oh thank god, i thought i was gay"
Im DEAD
Look at how disappointed he was at her being a dudette!
Fun Fact: Lea Salonga the singing voice of both Mulan and Princess Jasmine also auditioned for Mulans speaking voice but wasn't cast because she couldn't get her voice deep enough as 'Ping.'
Mulan has a separate voice actress who is singing “reflection”. That same voice actress also sings for Jasmine in “A Whole New World”
I feel like what makes a movie such a classic has to be the music. Lots of movies today are just missing that component.
*Honestly, as much as I love how sassy Mulan's grandma is, my favorite part of the movie is Yao roasting Chi-Fu in the song "A Girl Worth Fighting For".*
*Chi-Fu: 🎶I've a girl back home who's unlike any other🎶*
*Yao: 🎶Yeah, the only girl who'd love him is his mother 🎶*
*Just the look on his face ALONE is priceless.*
😆😆🤣🤣
I have always said Shan-Yu is the best Disney villain.
His motives are simple. They are exactly the same as Ursula's from The Little Mermaid. "Oh, you don't want me in your little kingdom? Okay. I'm gonna regret that decision."
He doesn't talk too much. You don't have to worry about him monologuing.
The man didn't pull some underhanded tactics like Ursula did. He built an army and came on full force. When he stormed the Great Wall he gave them a moment to set the signal, so all of China would be able to put up their best defence. He didn't want to face them while they were unprepared. He wanted a show of force. "Perfect. 😈"
Also of note. He RESPECTS his men. Something you don't see in any other Disney Villain in my memory. When the falcon brings the doll to them, he tosses it to his men, because he knows they are smart enough to piece things together without him spelling it out to them. And when the majority of his men die in the avalanche, man is rightfully pissed.
And that leads us to the final showdown, and my final point. When Mulan reveals herself as, "The soldier from the mountains," that killed his men. In a society that would have killed her simply for posing as a male to save her father... Does he make a single remark about her being a woman, try to make her feel insignificant? Nah. Dude marks her as his primary enemy, and gives her the fight she deserves.
The man is THE Ultimate Disney Villain. And more people need to give the man his due.
perfectly said, but he's not the best disney villain, that's Demona Wingfang (Gargoyles tv series), for "reasons", laughs. He's the best disney villain, when excluding Demona, hehe
@@redmoonbloodmoon3161 You right!
Ming Na-Wen, voice of Mulan is the first person to complete the Disney trifecta, with her role as Fennec Shand in Star Wars, and Melinda May in Agents of Shield! AoS is actually my favourite marvel show ever, and in my opinion , is one of the most underrated shows of all time (due to it's slow start) but i am sure you two would love it if you gave it a chance!
Definitely wouldn’t recommend individual vids for AoS, but rather arc videos…once winter soldier kicks in the show actually becomes good, before that it’s honestly painful
AoS at its best (LMDs, Hydra sim) is some incredibly strong TV tho
@@BichaeldeAngelo yeah doing a season or half a season per video would work amazingly
I actually met Ming Na-Wen
@@K1ng1995 THATS SO FRICKING COOL
@@Had-Yen Fan Expo Vancouver her line was full. The only other full line was Todd MacFarlane aka creator of Spawn
Some backstory to mulan. Most militia in china in this era were just farmers. They have their own arms and were expected to fight for their country but have no formal training (generally). In larger families, they have enough funds to train males to wield a weapon and horse riding. As for mulan going in place of her father, I've heard they keep records based on the head of family rather than individuals. Not sure on that though.
“The greatest gift and honor is having you for a daughter.”
*sniffels*
Who put these onions here!?
For another film that doesn't focus on romance, you could always watch Grave of the Fireflies... One of the best animated movies ever made.
Your commentary on hyper individualism vs selflessness is also examined well in Crazy Rich Asians. The film does a good job of not villainizing either philosophy, but instead showing how they differ when it comes to ambition and purpose.
shan yu is one of those disney villains that should be talk about more because he is badass and have a cool character design
Especially when telling his lieutenants that the little girl would be missing her doll and they should return it.
One of the best villain designs Disney had done with the image, voice, actions and words. I love the henchmen's designs too.
@PatrickDaviswimiwamwamwazzle I love that they show how well Shan Yu's henchman are trained. When examining the doll, the little details which revealed their enemies' location.
But for me, especially Shan Yu answering "Perfect" when told that all of China was made aware of his presence.
Best Disney Villain. Hands down. More people need to give the man his due.
He's the best for me because he represents realistic terror. Most of the classic Disney villains feel more like plot devices, like "Ooh I'm so evil and menacing, only to be felled by a hero." Shanyu and Frollo? They be talking real shit.
3:57 You gotta love that “how lucky can they be they’re dead”
Mulan was always my favorite Disney movie growing up, still love it to this day.
I love how the bad guys look like a completely different species of human 😂 Even their horse looked evil
Shanyu is so evil he doesn't even sing a Disney villain song
“Thank god, I thought I was gay” might be one of the funniest things I’ve heard Holden say lmafo I had to pause the video from laughing so damn hard.
When Bob Iger inducted Ming Na-Wen as a Disney Legend (same year as RDJ) He stated she is the only person to be a Disney princess (Mulan), in Star Wars (Fenic Shan), and in Marvel (Melinda "The Cavalry" May, in Agents Of Shield) She's a massive Star Wars fan even going to Comic Cons as princess Leia. You guys should react to Agents of Shield it's up with Daredevil as the best Marvel show and Brad Winderbaum Marvel's head of TV and streaming is a fan of the show and says they are looking into reviving or revisiting it after Daredevil. And without events in season 2 Age of Ultron would be VERY different, if it happened at all!
I love 90s Disney!! If Jen hasn't seen Hunchback of Notre Dame and you guys want something a little more adult for a Disney movie that would be a great movie to React to. I think Jen may be surprised by how dark Disney could be
Mulan will always be my favorite Disney movie, no matter what. Only the animated one though the live action doesn't exist to me.
I feel it was a good movie to those who felt out of place a little, and showed them they'll probably be alright in life.
This is one of my all time favorite disney animated movies! I saw this in theaters when I was a kid and I have rewatched it sooooooo many times. I'll never get tired of this movie!
Disney needs to do a movie with a Grandma as the lead. Very underrated character in Disney's history.
I always loved the detail that Shan Yu doesn't care that Mulan is a woman nor does he feel any embarrassment that his horde was destroyed by a woman. He only sees her as an enemy soldier.
It's worth noting that Huns were surprisingly egalitarian when it came to genders. Although it is strange that the writers picked the Huns as the enemy out of all the central Asian tribes they could've picked, especially since Huns never waged war on China.
I think it was just for iconography’s sake. The Huns are the most historically well known “bad guys” (relatively speaking) of that era.
There is a theory that the Huns that invaded Europe were direct descendants of the Xiongnu, which did have quite a bit of conflict with China.
Although there is no solid evidence in favor of it.
Also, the setting of the Chinese legend of Mulan is usually hundreds of years later than the conflicts with the Xiongnu.
Mmm but they were one of the more expanded militaries and armies and did rule quite a large bit of land. Would be an interesting fictional battle
Came to the comments to find this! When Shan Yu sees Mulan's hair as it was, his response is merely, "The soldier from the mountains." That's it. There's nothing more to it. Love it!
He's an equal opportunity war monger
One of the best Disney Animated Movies from the Disney Renaissance Era. I still remember like it was yesterday when I watch this in theaters. One of the best movie experiences during my childhood. 😁
Same. Was with my sister and dad for her birthday!! Was a great time
I love the transition from I’ll Make a Man Out of You to DVDA for the intro 😂
Yay another Disney classic that Jen never watched!
Hope you all watch The Hunchback of Notre Dame soon. Such a great film.
Your wife has a heart of stone, how did she not burst into tears 😭
every time I hear "I'll make a man out of you" I think about how my sister played softball for our high school and she was the only one to have played before so every game was just a brutal loss. During warm ups for one game, the other team was blasting music (Lots of teams usually do, and they were home team so it made sense). That song played and as it said "you're the saddest bunch I've ever met" she pointed out to her teammates (not in a spiteful manner, the knew they weren't good by that point lol)
But the best soundtracks for Disney movies go to either Brother Bear or Treasure planet for me. Tarzan is good too but I'm not as big of a fan of the story so... But Treasure Planet sound track is done by the lead singer of the Goo Goo Dolls (which I love) and Brother Bear done by Phil Collins ((like Tarzan) Which I love). They're both have the first songs from movies I actually bought. Heck, I bought the whole brother bear soundtrack (only like 3 are mainly/only instrumental)
"I'm Still Here" is one of my absolute teenage anthems.
We need a “who’s to say” compilation 😂
There IS a "Every time Jen says Holden's full name" compilation. A couple actually. You never know
i know right the dude that had made the jen saying holden full name needs to do it
I love Mulan so much. My favorite thing about her outside of the movie is that she changed the rules of being a Disney princess. They originally had it so you had to be royalty or marry into royalty in the movie. After Mulan, they added that you can commit a heroic act to be a Disney princess.
I love Mulan. I grew up watching this movie a lot. Mulan is one of the only animated female Disney character I got attached to growing up, I never really cared for Sleeping Beauty and all those others. I have to say, most men nowadays respond to a strong female role as "woke" but let's grow up people. I like women who are bada$$, not to mention I make some pretty bada$$ female characters in the books I'm writing. Mulan is such an inspiration, so I'm glad to see Jen reacting to the movie.
You wanna know why people (not just men) complain about woke stuff? Compare both Mulans, this one and the live action: this one, Mulan becomes a hero by becoming one from effort and sense of sacrifice; the live action, she was born special and fated to greatness. Guess which one supposedly "anti-woke" people like the most and which one they despise.
@@Rorujin I haven't seen the live action one lol
@@TimothyMills77 Then don't, don't waste your time. But believe me, no one dislikes this Mulan because it has a strong badass woman.... While that argument was attempted with the live action Remake. It was dumb then, and it is dumb now.
@Rorujin Yeah, Disney keeps adapting stuff into live-action to make it fit their persona.
Nothing wrong with women already being badass
This was my favorite Disney movie as a kid
Next watch Hunchback of Notre Dame! The darkest Disney film, though the Black Cauldron comes pretty close 🙌🏽
Like Holden said, Mulan is a great character because she didn't do anything to prove something, she did it to protect her father and family. That's what is different from modern female characters, now it's all about proving that they're the best just cause they're female.
Yes and no. Mulan admits during the 2nd act low point she did it in part to prove to herself there’s something worthwhile when she looks in the mirror. Sure, it’s not meant to be her proving to men “I’m a badass” or something like that, but she was trying to prove to herself something.
@@robertdelossantos5844 Sure yeah, which is an endearing characteristic and makes her relatable to everyone, men and women
which modern female characters do that with intent, not just because you personally perceive it that way? because that distinction makes a lot of difference. it just seems a bit of a silly thing to complain about considering men have made male characters for centuries whose only redeeming quality is being a manly-man self insert of themselves.
@@mels607 That's a good question. I feel like I've heard examples given, but they're not things I watch. Or they could be misinterpreted. Like "Let it Go", in Frozen, I think feels to me like it's meant to be a villain song. She basically says she's pleased to use her power now, even though she clearly hurt people, and could be seen as adding that she's going to avoid people because they suck basically. And yet she's not a villain and the feeling many have is that it's a celebratory song or even a Gay Liberation Anthem. (Read on)
However the movie as a whole I think is not saying Elsa even means "It's liberating to say 'screw you guys I'm going to create my own better reality' hurray for me!" I think it's maybe more like "Me and Society don't work well together, so it's maybe good for us to break-up." And by the end the movie mostly says the song was wrong anyway. That Elsa does have responsibilities to other people and not just to her own desires.
Or WandaVision. Many felt it said that Wanda was a hero of the series. But the only character who said that, Rambeau, was dealing with her own grief and maybe over-identifying with Wanda. (I do fault the show, though I liked it, for not making it a bit clearer that Rambeau's speech is her own views and probably not that valid.) Wanda at the end is more a troubled woman who shouldn't be condemned, as the series is unclear how competent or intentional she was in her actions plus she shows an ability to reform, but certainly not praised either. And at the end of the series she's a fugitive. She is maybe not directly "punished", in the series, but really how would one punish someone with her powers?
Still I could maybe understand why someone could come away from these two projects thinking
Frozen says men are awful and women are better off fleeing from men to pursue their own self-actualization. (It's not saying that, but "Let it Go" being so popular and the one male love-interest making an abrupt villain-turn may explain it.)
WandaVision says morality does not apply to traumatized women who can basically torture whoever they want, even other women, so long as they stop before it gets too bad and it was therapeutic for them in the moment. (I don't think it says that, though I do think it's maybe less clear on what it's saying than Frozen.)
There's a girl worth fighting for alright.
The little girl with the doll who didn't survive and all the other children who weren't so unlucky yet.
"AAAHHHHHIIIIIILLLLLL Make a MAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN OUT OF YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!" This song and Reflection are such good songs!
It's funny that if you showed someone who was educated in China this movie they will laugh at the hair cutting scene. Since about 1000BC no one in China was meant to cut their hair as your body was seen to be given to you by your ancestors and it was taboo to hair your hair. For men it expected to keep your long hair neat by tying it up in a bun at the top. For women there was more variety throughout the dynasties, so ironically, there was more of a chance women would cut their hair compared to men. This tradition ended in the 1600s with the Qing Dynasty as the Manchus invaded China. Their traditional hair style for men was a shaved top and a long queue at the back. In order to maintain control over the lands, they mandated that all Chinese donned this hairstyle, or face execution. Many actually resisted at the cost of their lives due to tradition.
One of those movies were was around when the marketing was in full gear, saw it in theaters, got the Happy Toys (they were character spinning tops, which i never got to work) owned the VHS when it was new, had the soundtrack (True to your heart by 98 degrees and Stevie Wonder is hits) and it's the movie that got me to pay attention to the previews more, and music videos (because Inspector Gadget was around that time too, and did the same thing for it).
This movie is an absolute classic. I still remember the scene where the Huns are coming over the hill scaring me as a 5 year old😂
12:07 technically it’s not a “cover”. Jackie Chan voiced Li Shang in both the Cantonese and Mandarin dubs of the movie. (His first language is Cantonese, as he is from Hong Kong.)
This really is one of the better (if not THE best) animated Disney movies they made. I also note it is one of the few where the main character isn’t an orphan.
The live action adaptation though… woof. (The American one, not the Chinese one)
the live action one destroyed the message...she was just born special. this one, she grows and learns. She starts to do it in the live action one and it's just tossed away, horrible message.
17:47 the expression in Jen’s face lol
15:10 About her voice it's to remind the audience she's still Mulan under the guise of Ping. Her voice doesn't have to be perfect.😅
Love the Rammstein shirt!! Your wife has good taste in music
With the Halloween season coming around I highly suggest Monster House. I loved it as a kid and even find it hilarious now as an adult.
12:07 He didn't just cover it. He was the voice for Shang in the Taiwanese and Cantonese dubs.
Interesting fact: Ming-Na Wen does the speaking voice and Lea Salonga does the singing for Mulan. They shared one other role: Ming-Na played Lien Hughes in the daytime soap opera As The World Turns from 1988-1991, then the character was written off. When the show brought the character back in 2001, Lea played the part. (By that time Ming-Na was a regular on ER.)
yep, mulan has always been one of my favorite disney princesses. i think it's notable that she is even considered a disney princess at all, because she wasn't one to start out and doesn't marry a prince, so she never becomes one either. but she is an official disney princess. she's just too badass not to be allowed that title. also even though romance was definitely not the focus of the movie (something i really appreciate as someone who dislikes romance and the genre in general) she is still a great example of a strong female character who shows that women can still be strong AND have romance, the two are not mutually exclusive and romance isn't a lack of strength (which is often the first thing some people will take away from a female character's story if they're trying to portray them as strong/independent).
also li shang my bi king
Fun bit for me. My first dog's name was Mushu. At the first visit to the vet, they were like, "oh like mushu pork?" It must have been close to lunch for her to think like that.
I would love to see Holden and Jen do music reactions
Girl don’t worry about him😂😂😂this literally brings back so many nostalgic memories
Both movies are a huge part of my childhood - but Mulan is so special to me! It's so funny, the music is great, memorable characters - and I honestly love the battle scene in the pass - the moment the smoke clears to reveal Shan-Yu before the army descends is so good
Another fun fact, while I’ll make a man out of you was officially sung by Jackie Chan for disneys Chinese audiences, the English male singing voice is tv legend Donny osmond!
9:10 he’s a Sith Lord. 17:51 I love how letting her hair down shows she’s a woman when the other soldiers have long hair too.
That cut at 15:30 got me more than it probably should have lol
Also, for an Eddie Murphy movie for parents, I recommend daddy day care
For a Disney movie you maybe haven’t watched yet, treasure planet is so dope
The great stone dragon didn't awaken because Mushu was the spirit meant to forth and help Mulan in her quest.
Ming-Na Wen a.k.a. Agent Melinda May. Such an iconic voice actress and physical actress!
The lyric "Who is that girl staring right back at me" was referenced in Ms. Marvel. Also, Mulan is voiced by Ming-Na Wen who also played Fenec Shaand in Star Wars The Mandalorian and Agent May in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Y’all would love Blue Eye Samurai! 💙
One of my favorite theories is that when Mulan went out to the dragon statue in the rain, the spirit of the dragon entered her, in a way. That’s why he doesn’t awaken when mushu comes out with a gong, it’s spirit is already in Mulan
Mulan is one of my top five movies of all time. If Jen wants another great animated movie that doesn't focus on a romantic storyline, Big Hero 6 is fantastic
Honestly, I still say "DISHONOR on your Cow!"
Ming Na Wen was so great in this and long before I knew who she was.
8:00 The Great Stone Dragon didn't wake up because there's a rumor That Mulan is that Spirit when she was born! 🐉
Great reaction guys and I love that shirt Jen 🔥🔥🔥
Also, the villain Shun Yu was the only one to treat mulan the same regardless of her sex. When she pulled her hair back to reveal who she was to him, he only cared that she was the soldier from the mountain, and attacked
LOL YOU WORRY ME HARDMAN!
I’ve always wondered about the spirit of the great dragon
We never saw him or anything
LOL HOLDEN SINGING ALONG!
I got to see this movie and Armageddon on the same day back in 98, great films.
ONE OF THE BEST DISNEY MOVIES!
I'll always remember how Jen didn't like A Bug's Life lol was on a big streak of watching animated movies and loving all of them it just makes me laugh that she finally found an animated movie that she didn't care for and the good streak was over I just mentioned this because I remember that Jen didn't like animated movies as much before and now she is liking them a lot personally love that movie but I understand why she doesn't like it it's one of my favorite reviews that you guys have done together by the way I have been here ever since my friend watches the episodes when you guys watch all the movies in one series in one big video I think the first reaction I ever watched was Star wars I'm a big fan of your channel thanks for all of the awesome videos you have made thank you Holden your channel rules
On a technical note, that scene of the Hun army charging down the mountainside was groundbreaking animation -- getting hundreds of characters to move independently.
Shan Yu's eyes are that way because in the original script he was able to see through the eyes of his hawk Hayabusa and they just never changed the original design when that part of the script was changed.
Mulan the best and deadliest Disney princess!! She saved a billion people too!
I absolutely love Mulan, she is the type of "strong woman" that we want to see more often. This came from a time when "girl power" wasn't all up in your face and putting the other gender down just to prop the woman up, it handled itself with dignity and respect, which is practically non-existent nowadays. Her true power came out when she embraced her femininity, instead of saturating herself in masculine stereotypes to appear strong, modern stuff needs to take a lot of notes from this movie.
Agreed. I also love that she overcomes these challenges not by being physically strong, but by thinking of solutions and plans to overcome those challenges and win battles.
Agreed. Her strength isn’t that she can do all the masculine things but the fact she can and still chooses to be feminine.
Yeah right. If this movie was released today the manbabies would complain about it.
@@toshtao1Absolutely false. As a man, I always loved this movie. Not forced fed and based on a REAL story of Hua Mu Lan.
Think again.
@@toshtao1 Nah. If anything, it would be the feminists that would be upset lol
My favorite movie of the Disney Renaissance. Also, the legendary Lea Salonga's second Disney princess!
7 average men 146 lbs each
1 woman = 100 lbs
1horse 930lbs
Cricket 8 g
Iguana (mushu) 6lbs
2,058lbs not including armor weight, so pos was lifting around 2,100 pounds alone
1:48 I absolutely love the prince of Egypt so much. Between it and Mulan it’s hard to say which one is better. Idk any other movies that were made in 1998, but definitely one of those 2 would be the best.
I think you should do Treasure Planet next, its a great movie of this Disney era and for me its the best of all of them , maybe its just nostalgia talking
Superman: All star for another animated movie. Kick Ass is also a good watch
You should check out Mulan: Rise of a Warrior. The beat live action of Mulan.
Even though Disney market Mulan as a Disney Princess, she is more than that. She’s the saviour of a Nation.
Mulan is my absolute FAVORITE Disney movie of all time!!!
Also,
wen DBZA Holden…? 👀
Yall should watch the nutty professor 1 and 2, the eddie Murphy one
You mentioned it, now you must play it. Kingdom Hearts 😊
That save the horse - ride a cowboy edit made me laugh so freaking hard😂😂😂
Such a great movie. Back when Disney made unique stories.
My favorite Disney movie of all time. 😊
The only reason why he didn't kill her was because he knew her father was dying and he knew she was trying to save him
mulan's dad doesn't die though, there's a sequel & he's in it. I don't think he was sick/dying, just badly injured from a past war & wouldn't have survived another.
He states his reason for not killing her is because she saved his life earlier so he owed her a debt. Unless you mean the Xiongnu and I think he just didn't kill her because he didn't succeed at doing so.
I looked that up once! Why the great stone dragon never woke up lol there are just theories some say Mushu killed him when he broke it others say Mulan was the spirit of the dragon the whole time i like the latter explanation😂👍🏾