Unbelievable how obvious and logical all this is. And frightening how many people can still be guided and convinced by such "arguments". Especially since Covid pandemic and in the Ukraine crisis we observe it daily in the media.
I remember listening to these coming out and found it incredibly insightful, however recently after explaining what ad homonin is to a friend in relation to his online insult fight I wanted to go back to review. To my dismay I can't find the first part of this, heres hoping it'll be posted soon. Thanks so much for the content.
Nailed it, I just do not get involved in politics because they are just riddled with logical fallacies. It almost brings me physical pain to listen to them knowing the masses think oh yeah they are right, great argument. I feel as though there should be a judge at the debates to mediate the debaters to disable them to from using such fallacies. Such as how there is a judge in court to prevent people from leading the defendant or anything of that nature.
I know I'm late to the discussion but I just found this channel. You assert that most people are willing to change their beliefs when they discover those beliefs are based on fallacies. What I find so disturbing about many people today is that this statement should be true about them, but isn't. Changing your belief requires acknowledging the fallacy. People are able to convince themselves that the other side is just lying and trying to trick them, or they just refuse to even learn what logical fallacies are, or they think these very ideas are just an irrelevant construct of the intellectual elite. How does one argue against people who seem unable or unwilling to even understand logic or admit when they are wrong?
Unfortunately I don't think you can, I've had some arguments with this kind of people, they will never change because their beliefs give them safety and to let go of their beliefs would mean losing the sense of security that they have given them, the only option remaining to make them change their mind would be to strip them of their sense of security completely (by the use of force), every case is different and sometimes you might be able to make them change their mind by using their own fallacious logic, but unfortunately violence is the only one that every person understands. Hope I've been helpful
Yeah u disagree with that conclusion of his 100%. Most people are NOT reasonable and there is a LOT of research to back this up. We make emotional decisions and then we back them up with evidence and pretend that the evidence is what convinced us... but it wasn't.
i kid you not. I listen to you while listening to studio ghibli cafe music (#GhibliJazz#) in the background and your podcast sounds a lot more passionate haha. Thank you for your words.
I know I'm late to the party but here is the stitcher link to part 1 of this episode: www.stitcher.com/show/philosophize-this/episode/episode-073-how-to-win-an-argument-pt-1-44699703
![[DRIP] ‘Woke Up In Tokyo (RUKA & ASA)’ PREVIEW](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QN44lcR_VkI/mqdefault.jpg)
Unbelievable how obvious and logical all this is. And frightening how many people can still be guided and convinced by such "arguments". Especially since Covid pandemic and in the Ukraine crisis we observe it daily in the media.
I remember listening to these coming out and found it incredibly insightful, however recently after explaining what ad homonin is to a friend in relation to his online insult fight I wanted to go back to review. To my dismay I can't find the first part of this, heres hoping it'll be posted soon. Thanks so much for the content.
It's on spotify :)
Hi there, thanks for the great content. I just wanted to suggest putting links to other episodes that form a series in your video or comments. Cheers
Nailed it, I just do not get involved in politics because they are just riddled with logical fallacies. It almost brings me physical pain to listen to them knowing the masses think oh yeah they are right, great argument. I feel as though there should be a judge at the debates to mediate the debaters to disable them to from using such fallacies. Such as how there is a judge in court to prevent people from leading the defendant or anything of that nature.
Brute force can also be added to the list, as a persuasive argument, despite logical fallacies.
I know I'm late to the discussion but I just found this channel. You assert that most people are willing to change their beliefs when they discover those beliefs are based on fallacies. What I find so disturbing about many people today is that this statement should be true about them, but isn't. Changing your belief requires acknowledging the fallacy. People are able to convince themselves that the other side is just lying and trying to trick them, or they just refuse to even learn what logical fallacies are, or they think these very ideas are just an irrelevant construct of the intellectual elite. How does one argue against people who seem unable or unwilling to even understand logic or admit when they are wrong?
Unfortunately I don't think you can, I've had some arguments with this kind of people, they will never change because their beliefs give them safety and to let go of their beliefs would mean losing the sense of security that they have given them, the only option remaining to make them change their mind would be to strip them of their sense of security completely (by the use of force), every case is different and sometimes you might be able to make them change their mind by using their own fallacious logic, but unfortunately violence is the only one that every person understands.
Hope I've been helpful
Yeah u disagree with that conclusion of his 100%. Most people are NOT reasonable and there is a LOT of research to back this up.
We make emotional decisions and then we back them up with evidence and pretend that the evidence is what convinced us... but it wasn't.
Thanks for the channel. It is much less cumbersome than the Itunes etc.
Idk about TH-cam but you can listen to part 1 on Spotify
possible to start linking other videos you reference ?
Where is part one?
Spotify
Great video
i kid you not. I listen to you while listening to studio ghibli cafe music (#GhibliJazz#) in the background and your podcast sounds a lot more passionate haha. Thank you for your words.
Oh I had to listen to this. Hehe. ❤
where is part 1 ????
spotify
@@tiagoborlidogmail (-_-)/ thanks
Ayyyyy 1st time here for me!
Thank you for just being a positive person!
I know I'm late to the party but here is the stitcher link to part 1 of this episode:
www.stitcher.com/show/philosophize-this/episode/episode-073-how-to-win-an-argument-pt-1-44699703
But how to counter these fallicies?
what happened to the part 1
you can find it on spotify :)
I can make a guess that since Mila Kunis spent her childhood in Ukraine, she may have had family making moonshine in the basement.
You lost me at "most people are reasonable."
I like you bro 😍
Where is part one?
Where is part one?
Exactly where is it