After many months of listening to the Borea BR08s both at home and in my classroom, I've realized that you get the best and most open sound with your ears at tweeter level or below. In fact I suspect the ideal spot is with your ears at a level just below the circle that surrounds the tweeter and just above the circle that surrounds the midrange driver - halfway between the perimeters of these two circles. My rough sense is that it's also fine to have your ears at a lower level than that, though I haven't experimented in detail. What I notice when my ears are at the "ideal" spot or lower is better sound stage and imaging, a more enveloping sound, more balance between the frequencies, and music is just more engaging. These are all subjective impressions, but they have seemed pretty reliably true to me over time. Since I have a rather high desk and desk chair, I raised the speakers to accomplish this. The other benefit is that when walking around or doing other things in the room and listening casually, the sound is better too, on account of what Ron points out, that the vertical sweet spot tapers off pretty quickly as your ear gets higher than the tweeter. So with my speakers now raised, I get less of that vertical tapering off when I'm standing.
When Ron posted the sound clips last week I mentioned the upper midrange blurring. The measurements confirmed this but also confirmed how well the BRO 8's perform through the rest of the audio range.
This is an excellent and truly informative review, from clear descriptions of the sound to technical measurements and other things as well. Thank you so much! I bought these based in part on this review. I have the Triangle BR03s, which I really like, but I needed something bigger for a quite large classroom space with high ceilings. The BR08s are much better suited to the space, and I find their sound signature pretty close to the BR03s. Overall really lovely, detailed, and open. Your description is great. Any suggestions on partnering equipment in the mid-price range? The LTA is a bit beyond my budget. Oh, I used your LOTS system. That too was very helpful and easy to follow. Thanks again!
I listen to a pair of Triangle Esprit Antal EZ in a small listning room. Instant emotional kick. Amazing! The tonalety and musicality alone was fantastic.
Thanks for the review. I have ordered these in light oak. It will be thrilling to hear these speakers soon. I can only get 40 cm free space behind them, as the manual says, and I hope they will sound good enough.
Be curious to hear your opinion of these vs the elac 2.0 towers you reviewed & stated best under $1500. I'm sure these are not as bright as horn loaded options but how forward/bright are these? I'm not a fan of the horn options as I get fatigued. This was so much easier 20 years ago when we had few quality offerings under 1500 lol. I plan to couple my speaker choice with a schiit saga+ tube preamp & either the emotiva bassX amp or a digital option from crown or xtc. Sources are vinyl, tidal or my flac rips...
That was a good review man ! Not surprised ! Going down to 40hz in my dampened down nearfield room personally is good for me , I use to be the biggest bass head ! Now just give me fast tight grippie lowend with a lil weight close to 40hz me good, I love the 🔺 midrange drivers 'midrange texture' in these Triangles drums sound so real its addictive Ron !
Dude, you u do a good job, I can tell your knowledgeable about Stereo! What do you think about Buchardt Audio S400's, paired with IOTA SA3 & PA3. Im' watching your channel to find yet another set of Speakers in the less than $2K (pair) range. I though the SVS Prime Pinnacle might fill the bill. I have only 1 big problem, my room is 15' X 15' X 10'. I'm kicking around the ideal of a pair of Floor Standing Speakers.,,, just thought I ask you. I of course would be using the IOTA Integrated & Power amp to drive them. Any thoughts let me know.. THANKS
Trying to decide between BR08, DFR52, and Wharfedale Evo 4.3 or 4.4. Can't audition them all in my room. I'll be using a Freya+ and Vidar combo. Thoughts?
Hi Ron, Glad to see your new editing style, with some objective approach and measurements. Great job! About BR08... Wait... 1499$?!?😱 As Focal is, Triangle is waaaay overpriced overseas (I'm French). I can get a new pair for 670€ here. Not like Focal, tho, these are Made in China... which makes me wonder why these would have to cost so much once "imported" (definitely not from France). Same thing for the Esprit EZ range: I saw deals on Australe EZ at 1800€/pair and I believe they are sold 5K$ outside EU...🙄
Any speaker that needs 8ft off the wall to sing is a speaker that should be returned and replaced with a better speaker. Even if you have to save for several months and pay significantly more.
Hi! Whats is your opinion about the BOREA BR 8 with MARANTZ PM 8006? Is a good Mix combination?Can you analyze and test this in your youtube channel???.thanks a lot !.kind regards !!!!
Hey how would you see them in a 5.1 setup ?Are them good for movies, with dinamic and sound image, or better go with some more movies-oriented speakers like polk or klipsh?i love the white finish and the dimensions or the borea.
Gee, thanks Ron. I didn't really need to but now it looks like I'm looking for a pair of modest floorstanders for TV/TH-cam/Netflix/living room purposes. And there's tons of them to consider too.
I'm liking this review and the one where you were playing music through them (thank you, awesomeness). I would love bass like this in my home, but I'm limited with space and I don't think they would work. That said, they sound mighty impressive, especially for the price! So I'm focussed on the 40th Comète or the JBL 4309 (which you reviewed and liked) - (horns!).
Hello Ron, did you have the opportunity to test the BR-09? How do they compare to the 08? Maybe they would be a Better choice (regardless the price) considering that they are apparently identical to the 08, but with a slightly wider bass extension?
I'm planning to power these speakers with an IOTAVX SA3 (rated for 4-8 Ohms). Will they operate correctly even if these speakers have impedance that can dip down to 3 Ohms?
i am thinking do the same... change my old b&w bookshelfs 601s2 for these great floor standings speakers using the same AXR 100 CAMBRIDGE INTEGRADED AMP
@@beljorge701 I finally settled on the KLH Model 5 and still have my triangle BRO3. But using the IOTAVX stack to drive everything. I had the AXR100 for a few months and I did enjoy it quite a bit. :-)
hi there i wish you a happy new year.Since i have these speakers and since you have reviewed the yamaha a-s2200 you think the yamaha is a good pair with the br08?
Hi Ron.... approximately three months ago, in a video entitled "Audiophiles on a Budget!" you mentioned speakers available from GR-Research known as A/V-O... your video reminded me of another video by Steve Guttenberg, in which he reviewed Ohm Walsh speakers... I was intrigued by the resemblance between the A/V--O and the Ohm Walsh... perhaps, have you and/or Steve might have contrasted these two speaker systems?... thanks, Ron... I enjoy you videos and appreciate your insights...
I had the BR08 first paired with a Rotel 1062A Amp and then with a Cambridge Audio AXR85 Amp. After breaking in for a few days and trying multiple room positions, the treble is still ear-piercing and highly fatiguing. To play at 70-80db, I have to reduce the treble by -4 db just to make it bearable to listen. This one is going back.
I have the bro 3s. Great value for the money imo and very forgiving and entertaining. They also pair perfectly with my Billie amp. But the upgrade itch is hitting me and I want to get something more refined in the $1500 -$3000 range. Still trying to figure out which to get. Buchardt S400s are intriguing, and the Tekton Pendragons, or maybe I'll go a little nuts with some Klipch Heresys
@@jeremycrabtree7683 the Genesee are definitely interesting. For some reason I'm more interested in the s400s. They're very highly praised for that price range, probably the most well praised, and their sound signature sounds like something I would definitely like, and also I like the look of them lol
I like this review format.. Keep at it.👍🏼 Maybe you could review Fyne Audio F702 floorstanders (from ex Tannoy engineers and employees) some day. I think there is a US dealer now.
40hz? To high for me, could you recommend a tower in the price bracket with 28-36hz controllers bass? I prefer not to use a subwoofer, love your work as always Ron!
New Record Day is there a reason Dali speakers don’t get reviewed much? I see plenty of reviews of different lines for the same brands but hardly any for Dali. I’m just curious. Thanks! Your review of the sprout100 helped me decide to buy one.
Greg Olsen So only “good” items get reviewed? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of a review, after all? And Dali does make good speakers. Hard to lump up all their speakers not getting reviews because they’re all not good.
Got my BR09's coming in this week and I'm so excited about them. I believe they're not (yet?) available outside Europe, so I'm guessing that's why we're seeing fewer reviews of them...
@@erics.4113 I couldn't be happier with them! I have them about 2 metres apart and just under 0,5 m from the back wall (I could probably stick them a bit closer to the back wall without impairing the sound too much, but I'm def. no hardcore audiophile so YMMV). They're in my library/living room which is pretty small, a little less than 20 square metres. Tbh, I would probably be perfectly happy with one of the smaller models given the size of my room and the fact that my main listening position is pretty close to the speakers. That being said, they're pretty decent-looking for their size (I have them in walnut), and the difference in price is negligable, so I'm still happy with choosing the 9's in terms of future proofing etc etc. Hope this helps, and just let me know if you have any other questions!
Ah yeah! Keeping in mind Yamahas are voiced to be pretty exciting, you might be on the edge of detail overload. However - if your room is somewhat treated - I could see this pairing working out just fine!
Are there any "unicorns" that play into the 30hz under 2k? I'd like to step up my tower game from my old energy rc30s to something that doesn't require a sub
Very useful review Ron, nice balance between listening notes and measurements, interesting that the LTA amp drove these speakers well enough to impress you, frankly surprised. Does this mean Triangles published sensitivity ratings arent bullshit, or is LTA conservatively rating their amps power output?
Got a pair of Elacs (DBR62) that I find quite enjoyable, but not as lively as I would like them to be. Wondering if the Triangles (Bro3) would be a better fit...
@@Newrecordday2013 thanks Ron, yes this bit, I'm a little unsure. The amp I have bought has a 4 Ohm as well as an 8 0hm,l speaker terminals, running at 45w per channel. So I'll need to figure out if that if the 4 0hm setting is most likely the right fit!
I don't know what happened to audio reviews. Why does virtually no one convey the manufacturer's specifications anymore?? Yes, you tell us that the speakers go down to about 40Hz. What about the other end? It matters to me if a speaker goes to 20kHz vs 25 or even 35kHz. It tells me a lot about the tweeter. And it's great that you do your own measurements. Hardly anyone else does this. But your own graphs top out at 20k, so we're still in the dark. Please, please give us the specs for equipment, and then you can even compare them to your own findings. Please. Please. It matters.
I still prefer my old late model last edition magnesium driver monitor audio gold reference GR20 loudspeakers which at the moment is fronted by an astell and kern kann direct dac line output tidal hifi / master subscription player into my two biamped amplification, in my main lounge system, and my bedroom system is fronted by cd, and single amplification, with good efficiency two way 3 driver 130mm coated paper drivers and a 25mm silk dome tweeter, which are a pair of Edwards audio sp2 floorstanders. I prefer my audio system not to gloss over detail from the source component and recorded material, while also able to be fast and dynamic capable and to be able to track the quietest inflections of detail while sounding balanced top to bottom in frequency. I don't like loudspeakers and audio components that seemingly sound slow blurry muddy heavy type bass, and tipped up very highly in high frequencies which provoke bad sibilance. The whole system chain has to be able to hit all this criteria for my preference quality, while seemingly sounding natural enough and true enough to the source materials intent to my liking. It is a very fine balance between all these criteria of qualities. Any thing else about getting too far into spectral decays and the likes of and listening to loudspeaker cabinets with a micro stethoscope kind of thing too much, I am not bothered about, as long as the loudspeakers are solidly built, and does not encrouch enough to spoil the whole capabilities of the loudspeakers detail and the musics musical message and and its whole sound capabilities . You could have a loudspeaker that is as dead and quiet as a tomb, but it also could sound very dead lifeless musically as well, and most probably has other areas of compromises not to your liking as with its drive units design and materials used, and its crossover components and chosen crossover frequencies not to your choice and likes of design choices, not as a whole totally designed to your liking and preferences that your ideal choices might and would be. It is all swings and roundabouts, and nothing will ever be perfect and perfection from the audio manufacturers in the ways you would want it to be, so all you can do is get the best audio products as possible suited nearly as ideal as is possible to your near ideals as possible, as regards their electronic / electrical design, build, as regurds the whole audio component choices and musically as a whole, as to the sound quality aspects of the whole audio system and its actual whole sound performance qualities and abilities. As to some pointers as to the whole audio chains whole sound abilities, can it clearly expose all those recordings tiny and quiet little details and inflections, harmonic content, pitch definitions, etc across the loudspeakers whole inherent bandwidth without sounding slow and pondering and undynamic to the musics inherent content of information, and be able to extract all the detail without missing its harmonic structure, pitch definition, through the whole loudspeakers inherent bandwidth. As regurds those recordings with compressions and distortions can it clearly be heard with out sounding the least bit edgy, sibilant, while also sounding as natural and dynamic as possible to the whole musics intent and message, while also sounding loud enough for each individual recording clearly and cleanly without fatigue to your hearing while also neutrally uncoloured and transparent and natural to the musics recording in a balanced way frequency wise from top to bottom as is possible . If your audio system is capable of been able to convey this kind of quality performance to this high degree, then you have a very adapt and very capable and musically coherent audio system to a high enough level standard of good quality, without it sounding a total mess of confused sound, no matter the recording material or the inherent quality of its production quality. You should try to listen to as many audio components and loudspeakers as you can as is possible, including some older used components if you can. There are very few and good audio components that are designed for maximum detail retrievel and retention of detail , and a very few minority of audio components say for example in the mid 90's for example that can still cut it today as reguards this aspect. A few dynamic loudspeakers say from around the noughties for example are still good enough today to satisfy with good levels of detail resolution satisfaction. The best audio components if done properly that are designed very well with the very shortest and most compact audio signal path with the least amount of components while also been the least complex and intrusive audio circuit design are much more capable in detail retrievel and retention of detail with resolution with lower distortion levels. The same applies for loudspeakers with good enough build and design quality and for them to use the least amount of intrusive crossover components as is possible to get away with, so as to loose as little as is possible from the signal source and amplification. Any audio components / loudspeakers that are so complex with lots of components with longer signal paths straight away looses vital audio signal detail information, resolution, and transparency to the audio signal.
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After many months of listening to the Borea BR08s both at home and in my classroom, I've realized that you get the best and most open sound with your ears at tweeter level or below. In fact I suspect the ideal spot is with your ears at a level just below the circle that surrounds the tweeter and just above the circle that surrounds the midrange driver - halfway between the perimeters of these two circles. My rough sense is that it's also fine to have your ears at a lower level than that, though I haven't experimented in detail. What I notice when my ears are at the "ideal" spot or lower is better sound stage and imaging, a more enveloping sound, more balance between the frequencies, and music is just more engaging. These are all subjective impressions, but they have seemed pretty reliably true to me over time. Since I have a rather high desk and desk chair, I raised the speakers to accomplish this. The other benefit is that when walking around or doing other things in the room and listening casually, the sound is better too, on account of what Ron points out, that the vertical sweet spot tapers off pretty quickly as your ear gets higher than the tweeter. So with my speakers now raised, I get less of that vertical tapering off when I'm standing.
So they sound great 50 feet from the wall, but do they sound good 1 foot from the wall?
When Ron posted the sound clips last week I mentioned the upper midrange blurring. The measurements confirmed this but also confirmed how well the BRO 8's perform through the rest of the audio range.
This is an excellent and truly informative review, from clear descriptions of the sound to technical measurements and other things as well. Thank you so much! I bought these based in part on this review. I have the Triangle BR03s, which I really like, but I needed something bigger for a quite large classroom space with high ceilings. The BR08s are much better suited to the space, and I find their sound signature pretty close to the BR03s. Overall really lovely, detailed, and open. Your description is great. Any suggestions on partnering equipment in the mid-price range? The LTA is a bit beyond my budget. Oh, I used your LOTS system. That too was very helpful and easy to follow. Thanks again!
I listen to a pair of Triangle Esprit Antal EZ in a small listning room. Instant emotional kick. Amazing! The tonalety and musicality alone was fantastic.
Thanks for the review. I have ordered these in light oak.
It will be thrilling to hear these speakers soon. I can only get 40 cm free space behind them, as the manual says, and I hope they will sound good enough.
Very cool review and Adorama has been sponsoring some of my favorite YT channels lately so I will definitely check them out.
Be curious to hear your opinion of these vs the elac 2.0 towers you reviewed & stated best under $1500. I'm sure these are not as bright as horn loaded options but how forward/bright are these? I'm not a fan of the horn options as I get fatigued. This was so much easier 20 years ago when we had few quality offerings under 1500 lol.
I plan to couple my speaker choice with a schiit saga+ tube preamp & either the emotiva bassX amp or a digital option from crown or xtc. Sources are vinyl, tidal or my flac rips...
Yes, they sound incredible. Very satisfied!
That was a good review man ! Not surprised ! Going down to 40hz in my dampened down nearfield room personally is good for me , I use to be the biggest bass head ! Now just give me fast tight grippie lowend with a lil weight close to 40hz me good, I love the 🔺 midrange drivers 'midrange texture'
in these Triangles drums sound so real its addictive Ron !
Dude, you u do a good job, I can tell your knowledgeable about Stereo! What do you think about Buchardt Audio S400's, paired with IOTA SA3 & PA3. Im' watching your channel to find yet another set of Speakers in the less than $2K (pair) range. I though the SVS Prime Pinnacle might fill the bill. I have only 1 big problem, my room is 15' X 15' X 10'. I'm kicking around the ideal of a pair of Floor Standing Speakers.,,, just thought I ask you. I of course would be using the IOTA Integrated & Power amp to drive them. Any thoughts let me know.. THANKS
Trying to decide between BR08, DFR52, and Wharfedale Evo 4.3 or 4.4. Can't audition them all in my room. I'll be using a Freya+ and Vidar combo. Thoughts?
Hi Ron,
Glad to see your new editing style, with some objective approach and measurements. Great job!
About BR08... Wait... 1499$?!?😱 As Focal is, Triangle is waaaay overpriced overseas (I'm French). I can get a new pair for 670€ here. Not like Focal, tho, these are Made in China... which makes me wonder why these would have to cost so much once "imported" (definitely not from France). Same thing for the Esprit EZ range: I saw deals on Australe EZ at 1800€/pair and I believe they are sold 5K$ outside EU...🙄
Hello' i"m from belgium where can you buy them for 670 a pair in france? Thank you in advanced
Actually 1400 usd EACH!
@@aponeapone around 900€ pair at normal price
Ron im interested for HT movies use. What do you think? How do these compare with other well known brands like Klipsch, Polk or Kef ?
Thx for review picking up set tomorrow morning
Any speaker that needs 8ft off the wall to sing is a speaker that should be returned and replaced with a better speaker. Even if you have to save for several months and pay significantly more.
Every room and tastes are different. Your results will surely vary from mine.
8ft of wall normal people don’t do that this is crazy
Hi there. I’m have a choice, borea BR8 and MA Silver 300 6g, what do you think, wich one is better?
Hi! Whats is your opinion about the BOREA BR 8 with MARANTZ PM 8006? Is a good Mix combination?Can you analyze and test this in your youtube channel???.thanks a lot !.kind regards !!!!
Hey how would you see them in a 5.1 setup ?Are them good for movies, with dinamic and sound image, or better go with some more movies-oriented speakers like polk or klipsh?i love the white finish and the dimensions or the borea.
Gee, thanks Ron. I didn't really need to but now it looks like I'm looking for a pair of modest floorstanders for TV/TH-cam/Netflix/living room purposes. And there's tons of them to consider too.
My BR03's are arriving tomorrow and i cant wait!
How do you like them now?
@@Hirnlego999 I love them! Really natural and engaging sound, especially for the money.
I'm liking this review and the one where you were playing music through them (thank you, awesomeness). I would love bass like this in my home, but I'm limited with space and I don't think they would work. That said, they sound mighty impressive, especially for the price! So I'm focussed on the 40th Comète or the JBL 4309 (which you reviewed and liked) - (horns!).
How does it compare to the elacs? Thanks
Hello Ron, did you have the opportunity to test the BR-09? How do they compare to the 08? Maybe they would be a Better choice (regardless the price) considering that they are apparently identical to the 08, but with a slightly wider bass extension?
I'm planning to power these speakers with an IOTAVX SA3 (rated for 4-8 Ohms). Will they operate correctly even if these speakers have impedance that can dip down to 3 Ohms?
These, or the Focal Aria 926??
Great review as always! Would this be a good deal for $800/pair and if I was to pair this with a Cambridge AXR100?
i am thinking do the same... change my old b&w bookshelfs 601s2 for these great floor standings speakers using the same AXR 100 CAMBRIDGE INTEGRADED AMP
@@beljorge701 I finally settled on the KLH Model 5 and still have my triangle BRO3. But using the IOTAVX stack to drive everything. I had the AXR100 for a few months and I did enjoy it quite a bit. :-)
hi there i wish you a happy new year.Since i have these speakers and since you have reviewed the yamaha a-s2200 you think the yamaha is a good pair with the br08?
I've got Yamaha AS 2200 and just ordered Triangle Borea BR08 so I'll let you know in a few weeks .I would like to know how Yamaha sounds with Kef Q750
How about the br09?
Would a Rega Elex-R or Heed Elixir be a good match with the Borea BR08 ?
Great and detailed review, man. I dug it for sure. Thanks, Ron.
Hi Ron.... approximately three months ago, in a video entitled "Audiophiles on a Budget!" you mentioned speakers available from GR-Research known as A/V-O... your video reminded me of another video by Steve Guttenberg, in which he reviewed Ohm Walsh speakers... I was intrigued by the resemblance between the A/V--O and the Ohm Walsh... perhaps, have you and/or Steve might have contrasted these two speaker systems?... thanks, Ron... I enjoy you videos and appreciate your insights...
Subwoofer is for home cinema and stereo is left and right channel
Ron - how do you measure spectral decay? What tools would one need?
I use audiomatica clio pocket. You can get it from parts express...
Ron you mentioned the Innuos statement in this video - are you working on a review? Have you tried it with your LIO?
Great review. Much appreciated!
Nice....theese or Dali oberon 7?
Will those match up good with a tubeamp, like the Willsenton R8 kt88 amp ?
Hi evrebody! Please tell me what is better to take Triangle Borea BR08 or ELAC Carina FS 247.4 for room 15?)
I had the BR08 first paired with a Rotel 1062A Amp and then with a Cambridge Audio AXR85 Amp. After breaking in for a few days and trying multiple room positions, the treble is still ear-piercing and highly fatiguing. To play at 70-80db, I have to reduce the treble by -4 db just to make it bearable to listen. This one is going back.
I have the bro 3s. Great value for the money imo and very forgiving and entertaining. They also pair perfectly with my Billie amp. But the upgrade itch is hitting me and I want to get something more refined in the $1500 -$3000 range. Still trying to figure out which to get. Buchardt S400s are intriguing, and the Tekton Pendragons, or maybe I'll go a little nuts with some Klipch Heresys
What about some of the step ups from triangle, any interest? Im juggling the genesee & comete
@@jeremycrabtree7683 the Genesee are definitely interesting. For some reason I'm more interested in the s400s. They're very highly praised for that price range, probably the most well praised, and their sound signature sounds like something I would definitely like, and also I like the look of them lol
Please review the borea bro9
Ron, great job as usual. Very impressive speakers. Please tell who was singing those last couple of male vocals and what album. Only 12 watts? WOW.!
I like this review format.. Keep at it.👍🏼 Maybe you could review Fyne Audio F702 floorstanders (from ex Tannoy engineers and employees) some day. I think there is a US dealer now.
40hz? To high for me, could you recommend a tower in the price bracket with 28-36hz controllers bass? I prefer not to use a subwoofer, love your work as always Ron!
You can Buy a pair used of Legacy Signature III
Check also for a pair of Kef q900
So my denon amp is 4-8 ohm is that meant that this speakers when they drop to below 3ohm will damage my amp?
I am so into buying them,I loved the bookshelf BR03, so the 08 I believe will be same as good only with more deeper bass
Nice sounding speakers!
@@Newrecordday2013 cheers, the review helped a lot as I couldn't not find much on the triangle brand.
Keep them coming!
I'm in love. Buying them
Is it possible to compare the Borea with the B&W 603 s2?
Rispondo io . Non c'è storia tra i due. Li ho avuti le b&w .triangle winner .un altro pianeta
Thanks for all your reviews! Can you tell me please what is your equipment rack at the start of this video?
Did u not watch this vid?
Great speakers
Random but, for vinyl, Dali Spektor 2 or Elac debut 2.0 B6.2? Powered by Sprout100 🙏🏾
Never heard those Dali’s - no idea.
New Record Day is there a reason Dali speakers don’t get reviewed much? I see plenty of reviews of different lines for the same brands but hardly any for Dali. I’m just curious. Thanks! Your review of the sprout100 helped me decide to buy one.
th-cam.com/video/R_Yb3GO9XtI/w-d-xo.html. Maybe because Dali are not great?
Greg Olsen So only “good” items get reviewed? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of a review, after all? And Dali does make good speakers. Hard to lump up all their speakers not getting reviews because they’re all not good.
are br08 or br09 better?
Dude (ron) theres a triangle borea br09, one more woofer, 35hz, you got to try them
Yeah I'd go BR09 over BR08 + subs but that's just me.
Got my BR09's coming in this week and I'm so excited about them. I believe they're not (yet?) available outside Europe, so I'm guessing that's why we're seeing fewer reviews of them...
That's still not very deep for 3 woofers
@@kalleeriksson2380 how are you getting on with the bro9? What's your placement like and size of room they're in?
@@erics.4113 I couldn't be happier with them! I have them about 2 metres apart and just under 0,5 m from the back wall (I could probably stick them a bit closer to the back wall without impairing the sound too much, but I'm def. no hardcore audiophile so YMMV). They're in my library/living room which is pretty small, a little less than 20 square metres. Tbh, I would probably be perfectly happy with one of the smaller models given the size of my room and the fact that my main listening position is pretty close to the speakers. That being said, they're pretty decent-looking for their size (I have them in walnut), and the difference in price is negligable, so I'm still happy with choosing the 9's in terms of future proofing etc etc. Hope this helps, and just let me know if you have any other questions!
Can we get you to do a review of the Comète 40th anniversary? :)
Outstanding review but, these are not the Broh-8. Try calling them the BEE ARE Zero 8 instead. :)
Who cares
Would Yamaha Audio A-S1200BL do good with BRO 8?
Never hear that model - can’t say.
Sorry, I meant A-S2100, the one you reviewed.
Ah yeah! Keeping in mind Yamahas are voiced to be pretty exciting, you might be on the edge of detail overload. However - if your room is somewhat treated - I could see this pairing working out just fine!
Thanks, Ron!
Are there any "unicorns" that play into the 30hz under 2k? I'd like to step up my tower game from my old energy rc30s to something that doesn't require a sub
Tekton has some stuff you can check out.
Are the mid range cones made of paper or fiberglass? I thought you said it both ways.
Midrange is made of paper cellulose, the loser woofers are made of fiberglass.
I've gotta lot of spikes like those on my leather wristbands and gauntlets, Ron. 😂
What is LOTS?
would love to know what you think about wharfdale evo 4.2
Are you a rice bag?
@@rajtabhbector9571 Are you a red wine bag?
Very useful review Ron, nice balance between listening notes and measurements, interesting that the LTA amp drove these speakers well enough to impress you, frankly surprised. Does this mean Triangles published sensitivity ratings arent bullshit, or is LTA conservatively rating their amps power output?
It’s a good question! Granted - I wasn’t blasting Metallica at triple digits so your results might vary.
Got a pair of Elacs (DBR62) that I find quite enjoyable, but not as lively as I would like them to be. Wondering if the Triangles (Bro3) would be a better fit...
Does any know if they work well with tube amps?
Should be fine, keep in mind they do dip down to 3ohms...
@@Newrecordday2013 thanks Ron, yes this bit, I'm a little unsure. The amp I have bought has a 4 Ohm as well as an 8 0hm,l speaker terminals, running at 45w per channel. So I'll need to figure out if that if the 4 0hm setting is most likely the right fit!
RE Capets.We should nick name you Shaggy= especially with that bears when it pops!!!!!
I don't know what happened to audio reviews. Why does virtually no one convey the manufacturer's specifications anymore?? Yes, you tell us that the speakers go down to about 40Hz. What about the other end? It matters to me if a speaker goes to 20kHz vs 25 or even 35kHz. It tells me a lot about the tweeter. And it's great that you do your own measurements. Hardly anyone else does this. But your own graphs top out at 20k, so we're still in the dark. Please, please give us the specs for equipment, and then you can even compare them to your own findings. Please. Please. It matters.
Great review.
BR09 - can anyone find the BR09's in the US? ...even if by mail order (Adorama doesn't appear to carry the BR09).
I was told you can special order. talk to distributor. $2200 CAD or something much lower in USD (1650?)
@@kaneda7katsuragi Thanks! ...distributor(retailer) as in Adorama or do you have a specific 'distributor' in mind?
@@johndaddabbo9383 Check with Electronicsforless.ca it would be a special order.
What equipment rack is that?
www.china-hifi-audio.com/en/e-t-hifi-audio-racks-stand-table-c-25/e-t-11-d300-4a1-hifi-audio-equipments-bookshelf-rack-desk-p-227?zenid=c35b9cf6a23584b691518e833b6f0b78
@@Newrecordday2013 does it come with wood none of the pictures show it
No - I just bought some cutting boards for mine.
@@Newrecordday2013 Looks like a copy of Finite Elemente Spider Rack
Nice...
I still prefer my old late model last edition magnesium driver monitor audio gold reference GR20 loudspeakers which at the moment is fronted by an astell and kern kann direct dac line output tidal hifi / master subscription player into my two biamped amplification, in my main lounge system, and my bedroom system is fronted by cd, and single amplification, with good efficiency two way 3 driver 130mm coated paper drivers and a 25mm silk dome tweeter, which are a pair of Edwards audio sp2 floorstanders. I prefer my audio system not to gloss over detail from the source component and recorded material, while also able to be fast and dynamic capable and to be able to track the quietest inflections of detail while sounding balanced top to bottom in frequency. I don't like loudspeakers and audio components that seemingly sound slow blurry muddy heavy type bass, and tipped up very highly in high frequencies which provoke bad sibilance. The whole system chain has to be able to hit all this criteria for my preference quality, while seemingly sounding natural enough and true enough to the source materials intent to my liking. It is a very fine balance between all these criteria of qualities. Any thing else about getting too far into spectral decays and the likes of and listening to loudspeaker cabinets with a micro stethoscope kind of thing too much, I am not bothered about, as long as the loudspeakers are solidly built, and does not encrouch enough to spoil the whole capabilities of the loudspeakers detail and the musics musical message and and its whole sound capabilities . You could have a loudspeaker that is as dead and quiet as a tomb, but it also could sound very dead lifeless musically as well, and most probably has other areas of compromises not to your liking as with its drive units design and materials used, and its crossover components and chosen crossover frequencies not to your choice and likes of design choices, not as a whole totally designed to your liking and preferences that your ideal choices might and would be. It is all swings and roundabouts, and nothing will ever be perfect and perfection from the audio manufacturers in the ways you would want it to be, so all you can do is get the best audio products as possible suited nearly as ideal as is possible to your near ideals as possible, as regards their electronic / electrical design, build, as regurds the whole audio component choices and musically as a whole, as to the sound quality aspects of the whole audio system and its actual whole sound performance qualities and abilities. As to some pointers as to the whole audio chains whole sound abilities, can it clearly expose all those recordings tiny and quiet little details and inflections, harmonic content, pitch definitions, etc across the loudspeakers whole inherent bandwidth without sounding slow and pondering and undynamic to the musics inherent content of information, and be able to extract all the detail without missing its harmonic structure, pitch definition, through the whole loudspeakers inherent bandwidth. As regurds those recordings with compressions and distortions can it clearly be heard with out sounding the least bit edgy, sibilant, while also sounding as natural and dynamic as possible to the whole musics intent and message, while also sounding loud enough for each individual recording clearly and cleanly without fatigue to your hearing while also neutrally uncoloured and transparent and natural to the musics recording in a balanced way frequency wise from top to bottom as is possible . If your audio system is capable of been able to convey this kind of quality performance to this high degree, then you have a very adapt and very capable and musically coherent audio system to a high enough level standard of good quality, without it sounding a total mess of confused sound, no matter the recording material or the inherent quality of its production quality. You should try to listen to as many audio components and loudspeakers as you can as is possible, including some older used components if you can. There are very few and good audio components that are designed for maximum detail retrievel and retention of detail , and a very few minority of audio components say for example in the mid 90's for example that can still cut it today as reguards this aspect. A few dynamic loudspeakers say from around the noughties for example are still good enough today to satisfy with good levels of detail resolution satisfaction. The best audio components if done properly that are designed very well with the very shortest and most compact audio signal path with the least amount of components while also been the least complex and intrusive audio circuit design are much more capable in detail retrievel and retention of detail with resolution with lower distortion levels. The same applies for loudspeakers with good enough build and design quality and for them to use the least amount of intrusive crossover components as is possible to get away with, so as to loose as little as is possible from the signal source and amplification. Any audio components / loudspeakers that are so complex with lots of components with longer signal paths straight away looses vital audio signal detail information, resolution, and transparency to the audio signal.
Are you writing the bible or something?
You gotta be a sound engineer, right?
No sir, I went to school for studio engineering but quit half way through. I make these videos for a living.
It`s not BRO 8, but BR 08 (zero eight)
Bruh