I'm American but thankfully someone uploaded the new segments to YT for me. I think Sutekh grew in power in the void, in the vortex, after the Doctor destroyed his body, his mind lived on and not content to just be the last Osirian, I think he decided to take those beings he couldn't kill, those others that are deathless, and make his own Pantheon as a final posthumous thumb in the eye of Horus and all who betrayed him. He made himself the god of all gods as he felt was his rightful place.
It's so hard to be a fan of my favorite show in this country. You need 3 different streaming services to watch 80% of the show, large swathes are missing but available in the UK, no mini episodes, no special rereleases
The new Tales bookend is on TH-cam as all the other Tales of the Tardis bookends have been. th-cam.com/video/pr0RhBinWhU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sqNqnqwztCISvZZo
@@bennettnez4711 It infuriates me that there's such a lack of bonus or behind the scenes content just for this current season on Disney+. For a branded "Season 1" they sure do expect viewers to come up to speed with the old stuff. Which, frankly, is overwhelming in and of it self even if all of it was available on the same streaming service.
It’s like being a UK fan of The Twilight Zone, in that none of the original series or any of the revivals are on any streaming service whatsoever. (Hang on, turns out I can pay for another service and stream one season of the 2019 version. Yippee)
I hope that they include this in the physical media release and bonus features. Otherwise, as a person in the US, I'm not sure when I will be able to watch it.
I sort of attributed them not having much of a chat before and after the episode to being in the midst of fighting Sutekh so they can't chat for a long time. There's also the added fact that there's no reunions or wondering where they are unlike in the other episodes, they can just get going from the beginning.
Cant help but the 13th doctors console being used as a fireplace is a gentle meta burn about the fact Chibnal decided to blow up and destroy 12ths beautiful console in his first episode. I remember reading a moffat interview at the time where he seemed a bit pissed off about it.
Eh, I doubt it. Russel literally just blew up his new tardis set in its first scene. I doubt he would make a dig at someone for blowing up a tardis when every showrunner has done it at least once
I live in the US, so thanks for this! The DW official TH-cam channel made the November episodes of Tales of the Tardis available, but I think it was after the specials had aired so it must be a licensing thing. Hopefully they’ll make this one available too. I’ve watched the original pyramids of mars so I’ll be glad to see the small changes. I did notice that hand after Sutekh got up, that was hilarious!
I don’t get why people hate the changes so much! The original still exits it’s not like it’s been erased from history. I just feel like some people want to find something to hate on.
Yeah, and also this episode of TOTT isn't for the hardcore fans. It's for casuals who haven't watched classic who, and don't know the context behind Sutekh
I wasn't a fan of how utterly spent and lacking in confidence Fifteen seemed to be at the start and finish, but it probably helps to assert the severity of the situation I guess. Did anyone notice they foreshadowed Four's regeneration with the Logopolis cue when discussing the proto-transmitter?
Well he is kind of dealing with all powerful beings that can't be reasoned with and he knows that. These aren't just run of the mill enemies, they are gods.
The fact they changed the time corridors special effects immediately debunked everyone's idea that the promo images of doc and ruby in the rainbow spiral was a "hint" at Sutekh
...how so? Those images were released way before this special edition edit. Nothing is debunked - it was still a hint. The similarity between the two can not be coincidence. Not that anyone picked up on it (and anyone who says they did is fibbing!!!) so it's really a mute point
@@williampanic8292 but why not change it to an updated version of the spiral rainbow to cement the connection instead of changing it entirely and making it standard
@@burgunbeerd because by the time the new edition aired, it's job was already done? Making the old rainbow effect in the series reflect the new time vortex makes more sense story wise, but for those canny enough to catch the hint ahead of time, it still did it's job
Sutekh could not have latched on to the Tardis, he was never in the Vortex, he was in a time corridor linking Earth to Mars, they are not the same thing. By the time the Tardis left, Sutekh had been hurled down the corridor, far beyond his own lifespan.
Exactly, this. Sutekh could not have latched onto the Tardis unless the Tardis “strayed” into the local time corridor which linked the estate to Egypt. That would have made little sense and the Doctor would have noticed that immediately.
@@dockaos66 and Sutekh was dead before the Tardis left the cellar, never mind the time corridor was collapsing. The sarcophagus was on fire, which led to the whole building burning down.
Daleks was 7 parts. So it was cut even more than you thought. The mix on the audio was the main complaint I had. One nitpick I have is they should have either left the console greenish or NOT left the floor blue. The floor was blue for the same reason the console was green. There were omni versions of most stories that existed in full before 1993. Lionheart Distribution sent those cuts to PBS stations in the US starting around 1986 or so through the mid 90's. I saw many episodes for the first time like that. I like the original version with the cliffhangers better. One of the first things I did with my collection (after I had everything I could get of the classic series) was to get original versions and orphaned episodes. That's when I discovered reconstructions.
Great point on how Gods are defined in the Doctor Who universe. I'm reminded about the rules for gods work in the marvel universe. in marvel, they distinguish gods and cosmic beings by saying that gods get more power the more they are worshipped. This is clearly very different than the doctor who universe.
Just a quick pickup, was it just me or did anyone else think Fifteen's blankety thing he was wearing was reminiscent of Four's scarf? I wonder if that was a deliberate nod.
Anubis was the Jackal headed god of death in ancient Egyptian mythology, not Sutekh. The original organic head design was flawed but much closer to the real god Set (Sutekh). Set (Sutekh) was not a dog!
Overall I think they did a pretty decent job of omni bussing the serial, it went along at quite a balanced pace, I can see modern viewers having their interest held, and thankfully cut out a lot of the earlier organ playing that seemed to go on forever in the original. Having seen the original many a time, I was mildly miffed they removed Sarah's line about the Doctor's shoes, though I understand it doesn't add anything to the story. The puzzles missing from the end Mars expedition made the ending a little bit flat, seemed to suggest that Doctor Who is just about people running and walking through corridors. 🤔🤔😁😁 I feel like some of the shots have been remastered, the whole thing seemed crisper and brighter than I remember, so that was nice. They stayed true to the 1980s reveal which was a big plus for me. The soundtrack was pretty good too, not like the Daleks in colour, the score for that was horribly intrusive. My only gripe, and this is a nerdy gripe rather than an actual one, is the changing of the space time vortex to something akin to the title sequence, it felt a bit bland compared to the original technicolour version. And digitally removing both the cushion AND the hand of Sutekh! Sacré bleu!! I actually had to pause, and rewatch it, do my eyes deceive me? Whose idea was that?! 😲😲 Well there goes my theory that the Hand of Sutekh is actually another iteration of Susan Twist! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant watch this review yet or probably ever as an American. Anybody in the comments know how I can watch it before tomorrow? There will probably be a low quality upload of the bookends like the previous ones, but I would really like to see the omnibus episode with updated visuals.
I watched the full episodes last weekend. I expect the shortened version was much more well paced. Regarding the ‘retro’ effect, more the effect at the time. Retro if they intentionally did something like it NOW, but not retro as it was what it was at the time…pedant exits, stage left
The pyramids of mars is one of the first Tom Baker episodes I watched, and feels like it's perfectly classic 4th Doctor. I would't be surprised if they don't say anything about Sutekh being an alien in the classic series, vs the most powerful god in this one.
Although I like the fact he's evolved, I do hope that we get to face off against a practical element of Sutekh, maybe half CGI/half practical id be fine with
It's a shame we most likely won't see Sutekh wearing his helmet, but it does fit the theory that the helmet was a part of Horus' prison to keep Sutekh paralyzed in the pyramid of Mars.
I would agree that this was vast improvement on the terrible job they did with the daleks, but it niggled a little to lose that moment when the Doctor mentions Victoria, as it is a great juxtaposition when he goes aloof as a timelord moments later. I think they missed a great chance to perhaps bring back Tom Baker and have him lead the story in, possibly as mentioned below with Luke. However that would really put this Doctor in the shadows. Final point I still do not buy this idea that Sutekh has evolved, it is a cheap play to raise the stakes for this encounter, when he was already one of the most powerful entities the Doctor had encountered
I mean, it does make sense that they cut that scene with the dress. The original classic episodes still exist for classic doctor who fans. Tales of the tardis is a recap series for new viewers who don't want to watch the full story so it doesn't really make sense to have a reference to Victoria in an episode created for people who have never seen classic who and have no idea who Victoria is.
Also, Sutekh had no need to evolve, in Pyramids the Earth of Sarah Jane's was reduced to ash, no buildings, nothing. You gotta give it to Davies, he even hashed up on the ancient mythologies. A Titan was from Greek mythology, not Egyptian. They changed the effects for the time corridor so they could justify their explanation for how Sutekh survived, even though the dialogue in Pyramids contradicts it. Trampling over a classic story to justify an awful finale is an insult to classic Who, the writers and the fans.
Nerr... The new Sutekh, they fu*ked up Sutekh design early on in production, the realising "oh shit guys.. we've created Anubis...😂😂.. then made an excuse saying he "evolved" 😂😂
Major burn on the American lol. That's ok, its' our fault that you have to stay up late every Friday night lol. And yeah, I think it sucks that we don't gate Tales of the Tardis...at least legitimately😉.
My son has never seen old Who so we watched Pyramids of Mars. He was shocked at how much he enjoyed it. His comment, " it's a shame that the old series really outshine the recent stuff"... nuff said
Uuuh no. Old who just drags on and on and on sometimes before finally just getting back to the story. I wish we had more episodes for this current season but the old classic who just slogs through it all a bit too much.
When Sarah is showing the Doctor her dress, they cut the line where she says "as long as Albert didn't wear it". Can't have Sarah Jane cancelled for making a joke about a dude wearing a dress haha
That's definitely not the reason, we literally had the doctor in a skirt 8 episodes ago. They also cut the line about it being Victoria's dress. Tales of the tardis is made for people who have never watched classic who before, so they cut out references to people that the viewers don't recognise. New viewers who watch tales of the tardis have no idea who Victoria and Albert are, and the people who do know who they are have already seen the original episode, so there's no reason to keep the line in.
How dare the doctor criticise a man for disturbing the ancient tomb of a god and nearly destroying the world. I mean, the doctor literally got tortured by a god as a result of this man's actions, but how dare the doctor not immediately forgive him and cheer him on.
The Rani and master can’t exist at the same time without one making the other look absolutely inept. The revival just chose the master over the Rani🤷 She didn’t add anything the master didn’t already add anyway. I understand why people want to see her return though.
@@goosephillip The Rani was evil because she did unethical experiments while the Master was evil just to be evil. The Rani would be the perfect enemy to bring back but y'know. Women can't be evil in today's world. 🤣
There does seem to be a lack of women villains today, but I don’t think the Rani not returning is because of it. Missy was a woman, and before you mention her character arc, she literally disintegrated people while laughing maniacally. No one is scared to make a woman villain. RECENTLY, the last five years, however, there has been a worrying lack I will agree
Queen Skithra, Miss foster, Missy, Azure, Lady Cassandra, mrs gillyflower, margret slitheen, kayaka, Madame Kovarian a few from the morden series. Talking current season, the villengard ai, some of the bird people, lindy pepper-bean. I dont know what youre smoking but i want some
![WHO IS RUBY'S MUM? [DOCTOR WHO: EMPIRE OF DEATH- SECRET IDENTITY REVEALED?! TOP THEORIES!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Us_3EI_ySY8/mqdefault.jpg)
Imagine if it was The 4th Doctor telling the story to Luke…imagine how sad and amazing it would be…
My 10 year old Nephew really enjoyed the episode it's his first Classic episode.
I'm American but thankfully someone uploaded the new segments to YT for me.
I think Sutekh grew in power in the void, in the vortex, after the Doctor destroyed his body, his mind lived on and not content to just be the last Osirian, I think he decided to take those beings he couldn't kill, those others that are deathless, and make his own Pantheon as a final posthumous thumb in the eye of Horus and all who betrayed him. He made himself the god of all gods as he felt was his rightful place.
Do you have links?
@@johnskrip7174 th-cam.com/video/Mw0Z6m4HOQM/w-d-xo.html
Omg the time vortex makes sense because russel said about how the TARDIS hitting the edges of the vortex would be important
As someone who lives in the US, I appreciate your apologising "just generally" That made me laugh! Thank you.
It's so hard to be a fan of my favorite show in this country. You need 3 different streaming services to watch 80% of the show, large swathes are missing but available in the UK, no mini episodes, no special rereleases
The new Tales bookend is on TH-cam as all the other Tales of the Tardis bookends have been. th-cam.com/video/pr0RhBinWhU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sqNqnqwztCISvZZo
@@bennettnez4711 It infuriates me that there's such a lack of bonus or behind the scenes content just for this current season on Disney+. For a branded "Season 1" they sure do expect viewers to come up to speed with the old stuff. Which, frankly, is overwhelming in and of it self even if all of it was available on the same streaming service.
It’s like being a UK fan of The Twilight Zone, in that none of the original series or any of the revivals are on any streaming service whatsoever. (Hang on, turns out I can pay for another service and stream one season of the 2019 version. Yippee)
I hope that they include this in the physical media release and bonus features. Otherwise, as a person in the US, I'm not sure when I will be able to watch it.
Tom Baker's era of Doctor Who is iconic for a reason, and some of his best stories can still hold up next to some of Modern Who's best stories.
13th Doctor TARDIS interior being used as a fire place makes it more useful than when it was in use for filming
They edited out the hand holding down Sutekh’s cushion. I knew they would, but it’s such a famous blooper I wish they’d left it in. 😂
Absolute sacrilege! Not just the hand but the whole cushion! The Cushion of Sutekh has been vanquished. 😂😂
I sort of attributed them not having much of a chat before and after the episode to being in the midst of fighting Sutekh so they can't chat for a long time.
There's also the added fact that there's no reunions or wondering where they are unlike in the other episodes, they can just get going from the beginning.
Cant help but the 13th doctors console being used as a fireplace is a gentle meta burn about the fact Chibnal decided to blow up and destroy 12ths beautiful console in his first episode. I remember reading a moffat interview at the time where he seemed a bit pissed off about it.
Moffat has no right to be pissed about that considering the first thing he did was blow up 10's TARDIS
Eh, I doubt it. Russel literally just blew up his new tardis set in its first scene. I doubt he would make a dig at someone for blowing up a tardis when every showrunner has done it at least once
I live in the US, so thanks for this! The DW official TH-cam channel made the November episodes of Tales of the Tardis available, but I think it was after the specials had aired so it must be a licensing thing. Hopefully they’ll make this one available too. I’ve watched the original pyramids of mars so I’ll be glad to see the small changes. I did notice that hand after Sutekh got up, that was hilarious!
They also removed the racial slur at the beginning where Skarman prime calls one of the workers a "SAVAGE"
Shouldn't have done that
I remember seeing a cutdown version in the early days of vhs videos, most of the early doctor who vhs releases were in that format
Justice for Sutekh's Pillow-hand
Great channel. Keep up the good work!
I don’t get why people hate the changes so much! The original still exits it’s not like it’s been erased from history. I just feel like some people want to find something to hate on.
Yeah, and also this episode of TOTT isn't for the hardcore fans. It's for casuals who haven't watched classic who, and don't know the context behind Sutekh
Promo image of Nucti before the series began has him standing with the colours of the sarcophagus from this episode swirling around him
No, that isn’t what that is.
@@williamusrex6417 EXACT SAME COLOURS
I wasn't a fan of how utterly spent and lacking in confidence Fifteen seemed to be at the start and finish, but it probably helps to assert the severity of the situation I guess.
Did anyone notice they foreshadowed Four's regeneration with the Logopolis cue when discussing the proto-transmitter?
Well he is kind of dealing with all powerful beings that can't be reasoned with and he knows that. These aren't just run of the mill enemies, they are gods.
The fact they changed the time corridors special effects immediately debunked everyone's idea that the promo images of doc and ruby in the rainbow spiral was a "hint" at Sutekh
...how so? Those images were released way before this special edition edit. Nothing is debunked - it was still a hint. The similarity between the two can not be coincidence. Not that anyone picked up on it (and anyone who says they did is fibbing!!!) so it's really a mute point
@@williampanic8292 but why not change it to an updated version of the spiral rainbow to cement the connection instead of changing it entirely and making it standard
@@burgunbeerd because by the time the new edition aired, it's job was already done? Making the old rainbow effect in the series reflect the new time vortex makes more sense story wise, but for those canny enough to catch the hint ahead of time, it still did it's job
Sutekh could not have latched on to the Tardis, he was never in the Vortex, he was in a time corridor linking Earth to Mars, they are not the same thing. By the time the Tardis left, Sutekh had been hurled down the corridor, far beyond his own lifespan.
Exactly, this. Sutekh could not have latched onto the Tardis unless the Tardis “strayed” into the local time corridor which linked the estate to Egypt. That would have made little sense and the Doctor would have noticed that immediately.
@@dockaos66 and Sutekh was dead before the Tardis left the cellar, never mind the time corridor was collapsing. The sarcophagus was on fire, which led to the whole building burning down.
Daleks was 7 parts. So it was cut even more than you thought. The mix on the audio was the main complaint I had. One nitpick I have is they should have either left the console greenish or NOT left the floor blue. The floor was blue for the same reason the console was green.
There were omni versions of most stories that existed in full before 1993. Lionheart Distribution sent those cuts to PBS stations in the US starting around 1986 or so through the mid 90's. I saw many episodes for the first time like that. I like the original version with the cliffhangers better. One of the first things I did with my collection (after I had everything I could get of the classic series) was to get original versions and orphaned episodes. That's when I discovered reconstructions.
Pyramids of Mars was the first classic who story I watched too.
this is a good explanation that he evolved it makes sense when you consider the toymaker grew to giant size so its not that far fetched
Great point on how Gods are defined in the Doctor Who universe. I'm reminded about the rules for gods work in the marvel universe. in marvel, they distinguish gods and cosmic beings by saying that gods get more power the more they are worshipped. This is clearly very different than the doctor who universe.
Just a quick pickup, was it just me or did anyone else think Fifteen's blankety thing he was wearing was reminiscent of Four's scarf? I wonder if that was a deliberate nod.
Anubis was the Jackal headed god of death in ancient Egyptian mythology, not Sutekh. The original organic head design was flawed but much closer to the real god Set (Sutekh). Set (Sutekh) was not a dog!
This is a sci fi show hun
@@nemesisgenesis2995 Is it babes?.
I actually think he latched on during power of the doctor because the tardis crashes in destination skaro
Overall I think they did a pretty decent job of omni bussing the serial, it went along at quite a balanced pace, I can see modern viewers having their interest held, and thankfully cut out a lot of the earlier organ playing that seemed to go on forever in the original.
Having seen the original many a time, I was mildly miffed they removed Sarah's line about the Doctor's shoes, though I understand it doesn't add anything to the story. The puzzles missing from the end Mars expedition made the ending a little bit flat, seemed to suggest that Doctor Who is just about people running and walking through corridors. 🤔🤔😁😁
I feel like some of the shots have been remastered, the whole thing seemed crisper and brighter than I remember, so that was nice. They stayed true to the 1980s reveal which was a big plus for me. The soundtrack was pretty good too, not like the Daleks in colour, the score for that was horribly intrusive.
My only gripe, and this is a nerdy gripe rather than an actual one, is the changing of the space time vortex to something akin to the title sequence, it felt a bit bland compared to the original technicolour version. And digitally removing both the cushion AND the hand of Sutekh! Sacré bleu!! I actually had to pause, and rewatch it, do my eyes deceive me? Whose idea was that?! 😲😲 Well there goes my theory that the Hand of Sutekh is actually another iteration of Susan Twist! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nearly 50 years ago pyramids of mars broadcasted on 25 October
Cant watch this review yet or probably ever as an American. Anybody in the comments know how I can watch it before tomorrow? There will probably be a low quality upload of the bookends like the previous ones, but I would really like to see the omnibus episode with updated visuals.
I watched the full episodes last weekend. I expect the shortened version was much more well paced. Regarding the ‘retro’ effect, more the effect at the time. Retro if they intentionally did something like it NOW, but not retro as it was what it was at the time…pedant exits, stage left
I think the mars shot they used was taken from the waters of mars
Pyramid of mars was my first classic who well wasnt called classic who then as i saw it mid 90s on a sunday on BBC2 Lunchtime
The pyramids of mars is one of the first Tom Baker episodes I watched, and feels like it's perfectly classic 4th Doctor.
I would't be surprised if they don't say anything about Sutekh being an alien in the classic series, vs the most powerful god in this one.
He got a significant upgrade in subsequent expanded media. Wouldn't be surprised if some of those stories influenced the current iteration.
Although I like the fact he's evolved, I do hope that we get to face off against a practical element of Sutekh, maybe half CGI/half practical id be fine with
"...and just generally"
Oof man, but also as an American, so true bestie
it’s a shame because it seems less likely we’ll get the classic look now
There seemed to be a brief distant shot of a figure that could have been the classic look of Sutekh in one of the trailers.
It's a shame we most likely won't see Sutekh wearing his helmet, but it does fit the theory that the helmet was a part of Horus' prison to keep Sutekh paralyzed in the pyramid of Mars.
@@jamesa.5830 i’ve not noticed that shot?
@@joeyunderwood I couldn't pause it in time but it's the 'what to expect' video
Hi tharies. My TH-cam video keeps freezing at 2% on the upload, do you know why?
We've never really seen an unleashed Sutekh. I don't see a difference between Maestro and Sutekh power-wise.
Dude the season finake was released 8 hours ago! You have no video up
I would agree that this was vast improvement on the terrible job they did with the daleks, but it niggled a little to lose that moment when the Doctor mentions Victoria, as it is a great juxtaposition when he goes aloof as a timelord moments later.
I think they missed a great chance to perhaps bring back Tom Baker and have him lead the story in, possibly as mentioned below with Luke. However that would really put this Doctor in the shadows.
Final point I still do not buy this idea that Sutekh has evolved, it is a cheap play to raise the stakes for this encounter, when he was already one of the most powerful entities the Doctor had encountered
I mean, it does make sense that they cut that scene with the dress. The original classic episodes still exist for classic doctor who fans. Tales of the tardis is a recap series for new viewers who don't want to watch the full story so it doesn't really make sense to have a reference to Victoria in an episode created for people who have never seen classic who and have no idea who Victoria is.
is dennis still trapped in the time vortex?
Also, Sutekh had no need to evolve, in Pyramids the Earth of Sarah Jane's was reduced to ash, no buildings, nothing. You gotta give it to Davies, he even hashed up on the ancient mythologies. A Titan was from Greek mythology, not Egyptian. They changed the effects for the time corridor so they could justify their explanation for how Sutekh survived, even though the dialogue in Pyramids contradicts it. Trampling over a classic story to justify an awful finale is an insult to classic Who, the writers and the fans.
Nerr... The new Sutekh, they fu*ked up Sutekh design early on in production, the realising "oh shit guys.. we've created Anubis...😂😂.. then made an excuse saying he "evolved" 😂😂
2:03 in the original PoM, theres music that sounds exactly like 15s tardis groaning, but they removed it from the ToTT version. That bugged me 😂
So will the 'kind lady on a far off planet' be 1980s Sarah Jane?
No
It's a different actor and they would never recast Sarah Jane
Major burn on the American lol. That's ok, its' our fault that you have to stay up late every Friday night lol. And yeah, I think it sucks that we don't gate Tales of the Tardis...at least legitimately😉.
My son has never seen old Who so we watched Pyramids of Mars. He was shocked at how much he enjoyed it. His comment, " it's a shame that the old series really outshine the recent stuff"... nuff said
Uuuh no. Old who just drags on and on and on sometimes before finally just getting back to the story.
I wish we had more episodes for this current season but the old classic who just slogs through it all a bit too much.
Just wait until he watches episodes like the Horns of Nimon, the Mark of the Rani, and the Web Planet
r/thatHappened
When Sarah is showing the Doctor her dress, they cut the line where she says "as long as Albert didn't wear it". Can't have Sarah Jane cancelled for making a joke about a dude wearing a dress haha
That's definitely not the reason, we literally had the doctor in a skirt 8 episodes ago. They also cut the line about it being Victoria's dress. Tales of the tardis is made for people who have never watched classic who before, so they cut out references to people that the viewers don't recognise. New viewers who watch tales of the tardis have no idea who Victoria and Albert are, and the people who do know who they are have already seen the original episode, so there's no reason to keep the line in.
It was a crap edit, just watch the original.
Rtd can't even do a 5 minute clip without being political, literally there was no reason for that line
What line?
Not sure we can really support colonialism in 2024…
How dare the doctor criticise a man for disturbing the ancient tomb of a god and nearly destroying the world. I mean, the doctor literally got tortured by a god as a result of this man's actions, but how dare the doctor not immediately forgive him and cheer him on.
They brought back Sutehk before they brought back THE RANI. Let that sink in. Women can't be evil in Modern television. 😅
The Rani and master can’t exist at the same time without one making the other look absolutely inept. The revival just chose the master over the Rani🤷 She didn’t add anything the master didn’t already add anyway. I understand why people want to see her return though.
@@goosephillip The Rani was evil because she did unethical experiments while the Master was evil just to be evil. The Rani would be the perfect enemy to bring back but y'know. Women can't be evil in today's world. 🤣
There does seem to be a lack of women villains today, but I don’t think the Rani not returning is because of it. Missy was a woman, and before you mention her character arc, she literally disintegrated people while laughing maniacally. No one is scared to make a woman villain. RECENTLY, the last five years, however, there has been a worrying lack I will agree
Queen Skithra, Miss foster, Missy, Azure, Lady Cassandra, mrs gillyflower, margret slitheen, kayaka, Madame Kovarian a few from the morden series. Talking current season, the villengard ai, some of the bird people, lindy pepper-bean. I dont know what youre smoking but i want some
@@The_BaconGuydon’t forget Susan Triad and Harriet Arbinger too.
Certainly more female villains than anything else this current series.