I remember once when speaking to a NYC SWAT member, he said “fists are fragile bullets that need accuracy. Elbows are cannon balls that are easier to aim. Use the elbows”
Lol. I started at 57, and I am not blessed with athletic gift, just a regular desk jockey. Today at 77, I still train muaythai three times a week, with four/4 minutes rounds.The last round is either clinching, or light sparring. Here is yours truly at 76++. th-cam.com/video/Dv-vbV25SCQ/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I was thinking while he was talking that “I do NOT want to cut a guy in a street fight, self defense situation if I can help it!?” Who knows where this dude has been? Btw, the technique of using the elbow to block a punch as a fist destruction technique, it works! It works really, really, well. My son has been training MMA for a year now and he can absolutely devastate your straight punch or jab with his lead elbow if you don’t know what you’re doing! I couldn’t punch with my left hand for 2 weeks when he was “proving” to me that the technique works! I believe him now.
I've won more streetfights with the elbow than fists and I'm not a trained fighter for the most part but man its a dangerous weapon. Nice well made video sir.
I'm very fond of elbows and knees. My aikido and kyushojitsu make me more of an inside fighter. One of the big problems with aikido today (admittedly, there are many) is that aikido is supposed to be 90% atemi (striking) but no one is teaching it. The places you are targeting are some of the most effective kyusho points (in fact I've published a book wherein I name them specifically) in my experience. Granted, when you do see aikido taught with atemi, they still don't do many elbows because it's based mostly on sword movements, but elbows still fit nicely into the system when shifting from "traditional" to practical. Thanks for this! Going right into my favorites
TMA Revisited I couldn’t agree more!! Fellow Aikidoka. Elbows and other techniques such as from Kali fit nicely into aikido. The Aiki bunnies or Snowflakes don’t tend to like it and don’t, won’t or usually don’t know how to teach any real strikes like you stated. Most aikidoka have very limited experience outside of aikido and don’t realize there is often a big difference between a martial art and self-defense.
A couple other elbows worth mentioning are the collapsing elbow from the Long guard and the twisting elbow from the Dracula guard in Muay Thai, or the Cross Arm guard in boxing, because while they're technically a vertical and horizontal elbow it's important to understand how all of your defensive covers can double as or transition to elbow strikes.
This is excellent info. I’ve watched a ton of elbow striking videos due to my interest in Silat and thus is definitely one of the most informative I’ve watched. And, I just thought you were a BJJ guy 👍🏽😀👊🏽
With the reverse elbow the way it's applied in Muay Thai is to step in between your opponent's legs as you're fighting turn your body sideways and then ripping the reverse elbow up underneath his chin. When you do it fast with momentum it's a pretty good elbow to use in a fight. In fact I've Incorporated it is one of my first strikes it works so good . It works even better if you use a horizontal elbow first across the temple or the eye and then rip the reverse elbow under the chin.
A guy fought me when I had a cast on my right hand in college. I didn't/dont have any formal training but wrestled for a good 7 years. Thank god he went for my legs and I had the sense to elbow on top. No broken hand, scuffed knuckles, anything. Came out completely unscathed
Alot of these elbows become AMAZING with the right footwork. Suddenly you are turning your elbow into an antler with 200+ real lbs floating behind it. When you can learn to STEP and SPIN at the same time instead of just SPIN they become insanely powerful and thundering.
With the bear hug, you can potentially spin in his grip so you're now facing him- eyes, throat, carotid/brachial/vagus strikes, hitting the side edges of the torso.
Just want to point out that the "useless elbow" you demonstrate isn't useless at all. You can use it to pretty good effect if a guy has a bear hug on you from the back and has his arms over yours (back bear hug with arm trapping), which would be a pretty common situation on the street, especially with multiple attackers. There, the reverse elbows going in a straight line (likewise motion to chambering a fist in TMAs, like you showed) actually works pretty well if you manage to make a bit of space for yourself. Getting hit by those elbows in the belly/ribs/solar plexus really hurts and will loosen the grip a lot. Chaining the elbow with a strike to the groin and adding in foot stomps will make the guy want to let go of you, or will at least give you a pretty good opening to peel his hands off or beak his grip. That said, I agree that it is a pretty situational elbow.
good video and well explained differences. every move has it's up and downsides, but elbows are definitly great to practice and put in your toolbox. i love going full force on a heavy bag, then you really feel how to make them connect and from what distance. clipping on a heavy bag wont work so well though since you'll burn your skin (painfull and takes a few days to heal), but going for the smashing ones is really nice. less fragile than a punching fist indeed, and when you're worn out from punching: a few good elbow blasts are still ready to go since it's different muscle groups that usually havent been depleted yet. obviously: spinning elbow is very difficult to land, especially in a street fight. they're pretty self explanatory once you start working them.
great! what do think about straightblast-entry for various elbows? how about doubling-up on right horiz-elbows? how about variations on placing left hand behind opps' neck, back, to pull him in to various elbows?
I have used the 7th elbow technique in a self-defense situation and I can assure you the opponent will not be able to fight you again after that powerful strike. It was in deed a bad day for him.
I'm a professional Mountain-biker but have been incorporating elbows for self defense purposes against Goats and Cows. A lot of Biker like to sneak an elbow into Trails from time to time, to fend off Mountain Eagles or Mosquitoes.
I tried a little fun thing when I started the video and I want some input. First try an elbow strike in any way. Now try quickly throwing half or a fourth punch, and immediately pull it back while throwing your elbow out. So half/fourth punch and back while elbowing at the same time. To me for some reason not only did it seem faster. But the pull motion with the arm felt like I was dragging myself forward and my body lunged forward effortlessly into the elbow strike. Tried with the idea of a hook punch but as an elbow strike. The shortest hook punch starting at your center with the arm bent inwards to you and swing to the side towards the side of your chest as usual but immediately into an embow in the middle of the swing. Almost like swinging the arm like waving a rope. Also I've seen some martial arts where they hold the elbowing arm's fist in the other arm's palm. Using both arms for more force. How effective is this compared to a one arm elbow?
Clubbing elbows are AMAZING against top of hand and wrist and also the THICK parts of peoples muscle. Getting clubbed full power right on your popeye muscle makes your arm feel like 50% power sometimes. IN ground grappling I love to just rest on top of opponent stomach with an elbow and REALLY dig my 250 lbs into them in and force them to have to push my shoulders or try to shove my elbow off them so I now have free strikes open or crawl up them.
The hand destruction is really more of a block rather than a strike. It was also used back in the days of bareknuckle boxing as a way to cripple your opponents hand.
what kind of elbow strikes are theoretical? i can see how som might be really hard to pull off due to a good modern boxing/ muay thai guard but an elbow to the face will hurt even if it is light.
Should mention to keep your hand open (not making a fist) and the hand tucked (flexing bicep) to make the surface as hard as possible. And don't forget the lawnmower elbow Anderson Silva famously used
that dropping elbow is great for after you kick the groin, or get them bent over somehow, you just drop your weight behind it on the back of the head or neck (yes its illegal in mma, for a reason) and they will probably not get up. that't the most common use in Krav Maga at least.
I think that for the last elbow strike I can do a football spin so that I am behind the attacker, and then I can hit the attacker's back of neck or spine using this technique.
the spinning elbow that thrusts out with the back of the hand being rouughly at ones temple is for short fighters who would otherwise be elbowing the arm-ps i suppose that the downward elbow may have been banned because someone thought it could be excessive if delivered to the anterior fontanel
Being that "fontanels" are a feature exclusively of the infant skull, if you're throwing elbow there, you have more serious issues than using banned techniques.
@@ManifoldSky hahaha thanks for that. Can't stand these idiots who read a dictionary to write a TH-cam comment and fuck everything up trying to seem superior or some shit
Ellbow, the most underrated strike in all fight systems. They are all concentrated about kicks to the head and KO punches, and throws or locks...but in fact most fights are on close range after the first move (holds and wrestle), not these humpy jumpy kicking from worst Hong Kong movies.
There are systems (especially within the Filipino Martial Arts) that advocate that, and it is useful, but it requires an awful lot of training because you're trying to hit a rapidly moving object with another rapidly moving object. So yes, it's great if you can pull it off, but it's hard to do
Before I watched this video, I thought there were only 3 elbow strikes (vertical, top to bottom, and bottom to top). I just barely realized there are 7.
First of all, elbows strikes are fine technique. You'll never learn proper execution of elbows from watching vid clips. you need one on one training at legit gym, then watch clips to review what you've forgotten from training with your teacher. Incidentally, spear elbow strike#4 @5:53 is better, if you place palm on your forehead for support, and protect your jaw with your deltoid muscles.
Love your other channel, amazing juijitsu. However this... Your opponent has 2 heads? I'd like something more realistic. No one will allow you to hit him in the head , that's why they use diagonal-more faster elbow strikes. Combinations please!
Word of warning; Not a good idea to use an elbow strike as an Offensive strike----No, rather, use it in conjunction with a Defen- sive 'Cover.' Always use your Longest weapons ( extended) for Offense.
with the right -wrong- amount of force, a single elbow strike will kill The jumping 12-6 elbow is a nice drill on the heavy bag, the set up is like a superman punch (to get some airtime) then grab the top of the heavy bag (a fistful of hair/hand at rear of head) to pull the crown under the dropping RH elbow It's not exactly what Mr Miyagi would espouse...
When will people learn that its not in the technique but where you target. You said some elbows are useless. But that depends on where you target. If you target the temple for instance the elbow would NOT be useless.
I remember once when speaking to a NYC SWAT member, he said “fists are fragile bullets that need accuracy. Elbows are cannon balls that are easier to aim. Use the elbows”
wise words
That upward elbow is perfect for a guy in your face. No telegraphing with your shoulder. I'd love to see that in action.
Great to see a fellow AARP member in the gym. I just started at 55 and learning it's never too late!
Lol. I started at 57, and I am not blessed with athletic gift, just a regular desk jockey. Today at 77, I still train muaythai three times a week, with four/4 minutes rounds.The last round is either clinching, or light sparring. Here is yours truly at 76++.
th-cam.com/video/Dv-vbV25SCQ/w-d-xo.html
I started jj at 40 and judo at 41 the complete each other so well oss
One of the best elbow overviews I’ve seen!
Sir, you are a fantastic teacher. Clear , concise and communicated the essence of every move very well. Thank u.
We applied the #2 and #4 in our muay thai training and they worked a treat in tournaments under pressure testing. Nice. Thanks.
one of the best value added videos.thanks for sharing.
The gear you use in this video is very good. Hitting an effective target is very important.
Excellent, detailed lesson on elbow strikes.
excellent video Im all into elbows and knees....I really like what your sharing big thank you brother
This page is gold 🙏 very cool to see you incorporating all avenues for self defense! OSS!
Nice video, thanks for sharing cool tips!
Good tutorial synopsis on elbow strikes.
Really great explanations and demos. Thank you!
Great stuff Stephan. Thank you.
Yeah I was thinking while he was talking that “I do NOT want to cut a guy in a street fight, self defense situation if I can help it!?” Who knows where this dude has been?
Btw, the technique of using the elbow to block a punch as a fist destruction technique, it works! It works really, really, well. My son has been training MMA for a year now and he can absolutely devastate your straight punch or jab with his lead elbow if you don’t know what you’re doing! I couldn’t punch with my left hand for 2 weeks when he was “proving” to me that the technique works! I believe him now.
Great channel Stephan. Everyone should know some basic, well-rounded self-defense techniques, whatever art or sport you train.
TOO TRUE...
I like the old elbow strike. Thanks for sharing papo.
Excellent and necessary tutorial . Thanks
Thanks Master 💎💪💎
I agree and understand . I use Kali and JKD footwork.
Excellent skill
You are awesome and I subscribed because your style of teaching really resonated with me. Thank you. I really want to learn elbow strikes
I've won more streetfights with the elbow than fists and I'm not a trained fighter for the most part but man its a dangerous weapon. Nice well made video sir.
Thank you for the instructions, awesome!
I'm very fond of elbows and knees. My aikido and kyushojitsu make me more of an inside fighter.
One of the big problems with aikido today (admittedly, there are many) is that aikido is supposed to be 90% atemi (striking) but no one is teaching it.
The places you are targeting are some of the most effective kyusho points (in fact I've published a book wherein I name them specifically) in my experience.
Granted, when you do see aikido taught with atemi, they still don't do many elbows because it's based mostly on sword movements, but elbows still fit nicely into the system when shifting from "traditional" to practical.
Thanks for this! Going right into my favorites
TMA Revisited I couldn’t agree more!! Fellow Aikidoka. Elbows and other techniques such as from Kali fit nicely into aikido. The Aiki bunnies or Snowflakes don’t tend to like it and don’t, won’t or usually don’t know how to teach any real strikes like you stated. Most aikidoka have very limited experience outside of aikido and don’t realize there is often a big difference between a martial art and self-defense.
You should look up "Martial Arts Journey".
Besides learning quality, watching Jean Luc Picard battered for 11 minutes with Data's head - priceless :) Cool vid
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Very Nice And Efective Video thankis bro Keep it up .
One of my fav JJ guys does SD too! Awesome.
A couple other elbows worth mentioning are the collapsing elbow from the Long guard and the twisting elbow from the Dracula guard in Muay Thai, or the Cross Arm guard in boxing, because while they're technically a vertical and horizontal elbow it's important to understand how all of your defensive covers can double as or transition to elbow strikes.
Vraiment je vous remercier trop de vos martiale des coude.
This is excellent info. I’ve watched a ton of elbow striking videos due to my interest in Silat and thus is definitely one of the most informative I’ve watched. And, I just thought you were a BJJ guy 👍🏽😀👊🏽
With the reverse elbow the way it's applied in Muay Thai is to step in between your opponent's legs as you're fighting turn your body sideways and then ripping the reverse elbow up underneath his chin. When you do it fast with momentum it's a pretty good elbow to use in a fight. In fact I've Incorporated it is one of my first strikes it works so good . It works even better if you use a horizontal elbow first across the temple or the eye and then rip the reverse elbow under the chin.
Good stuff. Thanks
A guy fought me when I had a cast on my right hand in college. I didn't/dont have any formal training but wrestled for a good 7 years. Thank god he went for my legs and I had the sense to elbow on top. No broken hand, scuffed knuckles, anything. Came out completely unscathed
Your training partner is how Patrick Stewart would have ended up had he trained in self-defence. Great video, by the way - THANKS!
thank you sir
Alot of these elbows become AMAZING with the right footwork. Suddenly you are turning your elbow into an antler with 200+ real lbs floating behind it. When you can learn to STEP and SPIN at the same time instead of just SPIN they become insanely powerful and thundering.
As a beginner to elbow strikes, if I practice with a plastic head like in the video, is it going to break my elbow? If so, how should I practice?
With the bear hug, you can potentially spin in his grip so you're now facing him- eyes, throat, carotid/brachial/vagus strikes, hitting the side edges of the torso.
Very good
Good stuff thank you
Just want to point out that the "useless elbow" you demonstrate isn't useless at all. You can use it to pretty good effect if a guy has a bear hug on you from the back and has his arms over yours (back bear hug with arm trapping), which would be a pretty common situation on the street, especially with multiple attackers. There, the reverse elbows going in a straight line (likewise motion to chambering a fist in TMAs, like you showed) actually works pretty well if you manage to make a bit of space for yourself. Getting hit by those elbows in the belly/ribs/solar plexus really hurts and will loosen the grip a lot. Chaining the elbow with a strike to the groin and adding in foot stomps will make the guy want to let go of you, or will at least give you a pretty good opening to peel his hands off or beak his grip.
That said, I agree that it is a pretty situational elbow.
"If he attacks me with a human head", lol! But an informative video, fantastic
good video and well explained differences. every move has it's up and downsides, but elbows are definitly great to practice and put in your toolbox. i love going full force on a heavy bag, then you really feel how to make them connect and from what distance. clipping on a heavy bag wont work so well though since you'll burn your skin (painfull and takes a few days to heal), but going for the smashing ones is really nice. less fragile than a punching fist indeed, and when you're worn out from punching: a few good elbow blasts are still ready to go since it's different muscle groups that usually havent been depleted yet. obviously: spinning elbow is very difficult to land, especially in a street fight. they're pretty self explanatory once you start working them.
great! what do think about straightblast-entry for various elbows? how about doubling-up on right horiz-elbows? how about variations on placing left hand behind opps' neck, back, to pull him in to various elbows?
I have used the 7th elbow technique in a self-defense situation and I can assure you the opponent will not be able to fight you again after that powerful strike. It was in deed a bad day for him.
I want to hear this story. What was the context
I'm a professional Mountain-biker but have been incorporating elbows for self defense purposes against Goats and Cows. A lot of Biker like to sneak an elbow into Trails from time to time, to fend off Mountain Eagles or Mosquitoes.
I tried a little fun thing when I started the video and I want some input.
First try an elbow strike in any way.
Now try quickly throwing half or a fourth punch, and immediately pull it back while throwing your elbow out. So half/fourth punch and back while elbowing at the same time.
To me for some reason not only did it seem faster. But the pull motion with the arm felt like I was dragging myself forward and my body lunged forward effortlessly into the elbow strike.
Tried with the idea of a hook punch but as an elbow strike. The shortest hook punch starting at your center with the arm bent inwards to you and swing to the side towards the side of your chest as usual but immediately into an embow in the middle of the swing. Almost like swinging the arm like waving a rope.
Also I've seen some martial arts where they hold the elbowing arm's fist in the other arm's palm. Using both arms for more force.
How effective is this compared to a one arm elbow?
Awesome thanks
Awesome...thank you.
That turning elbow! LOOOOOL
Clubbing elbows are AMAZING against top of hand and wrist and also the THICK parts of peoples muscle. Getting clubbed full power right on your popeye muscle makes your arm feel like 50% power sometimes. IN ground grappling I love to just rest on top of opponent stomach with an elbow and REALLY dig my 250 lbs into them in and force them to have to push my shoulders or try to shove my elbow off them so I now have free strikes open or crawl up them.
I’ve done Muay Thai for a lot of years and love using my elbows especially the back spin as long has you get connected properly 💪🏼💪🏼
We’re do you get that face from ?
The hand destruction is really more of a block rather than a strike. It was also used back in the days of bareknuckle boxing as a way to cripple your opponents hand.
Love this, although I'd also add the Anderson Silva/Somrak Khamsing back elbow (not the spinning type). Pairs really nicely with the jab.
Just remember how short range they are.
what kind of elbow strikes are theoretical? i can see how som might be really hard to pull off due to a good modern boxing/ muay thai guard but an elbow to the face will hurt even if it is light.
Should mention to keep your hand open (not making a fist) and the hand tucked (flexing bicep) to make the surface as hard as possible. And don't forget the lawnmower elbow Anderson Silva famously used
Good tips
great video.
... juste affligeant...
5:57 This Spearing elbow is weak because just vertical so should be horizon. It's strong like Chinese kunfu style elbow
Great video! Is that your father?
great video
that dropping elbow is great for after you kick the groin, or get them bent over somehow, you just drop your weight behind it on the back of the head or neck (yes its illegal in mma, for a reason) and they will probably not get up. that't the most common use in Krav Maga at least.
dude that isn't just illegal in mma... that's LETHAL
I must say good defense
I think that for the last elbow strike I can do a football spin so that I am behind the attacker, and then I can hit the attacker's back of neck or spine using this technique.
elbow strikes are short and powerful. a fighter uses elbow strikes in the clinch, not the in the scramble. watch the Brazilians
Muay sok style of Muay thai is awesome
Oui je d'accord .
Where do you get that head from?
the spinning elbow that thrusts out with the back of the hand being rouughly at ones temple is for short fighters who would otherwise be elbowing the arm-ps i suppose that the downward elbow may have been banned because someone thought it could be excessive if delivered to the anterior fontanel
Being that "fontanels" are a feature exclusively of the infant skull, if you're throwing elbow there, you have more serious issues than using banned techniques.
@@ManifoldSky hahaha thanks for that. Can't stand these idiots who read a dictionary to write a TH-cam comment and fuck everything up trying to seem superior or some shit
Do not underestimate how powerful your elbow strike is
Alot of people scratch with t heir elbow instead of using it like an antler or a bullhorn.
You're just one punch away from a broken hand. Makes sense to use an elbow.
the spinning elbow is wicked
porque siempre ponen personas mas bajas quiero ver como uno se defiende de algun grandote
Ellbow, the most underrated strike in all fight systems. They are all concentrated about kicks to the head and KO punches, and throws or locks...but in fact most fights are on close range after the first move (holds and wrestle), not these humpy jumpy kicking from worst Hong Kong movies.
drh kleinert: all hong kong kung fu styles are close range without jumpy kicking
I agree elbows and knees are deadly they are my favorite
So, do you think its usefull for self defense to try to hit a coming punch with the elbow?
There are systems (especially within the Filipino Martial Arts) that advocate that, and it is useful, but it requires an awful lot of training because you're trying to hit a rapidly moving object with another rapidly moving object. So yes, it's great if you can pull it off, but it's hard to do
In fact I think we address this issue at about the 3:00 minute mark in the video
OH...so you have to pay ATTENTION when watching the video so you DON'T ask a snarky question..... :))
Self Defense Tutorials how often do you train Fma and what system ?
Stephan Kesting thanks for the answer, i am from Spain and i did not get what u meant, i thought It could be one of your jokes.
Love the Chanel
If he got Prof. X to hold pads for him, I'm defo listening
Before I watched this video, I thought there were only 3 elbow strikes (vertical, top to bottom, and bottom to top). I just barely realized there are 7.
anywhere near nj ?
What if my opponent doesn't have a head.
Mirko?
Then you kick his ass
jUsT gO tO tHe BoDy
can't believe I just learned how to elbow a short old man
First of all, elbows strikes are fine technique. You'll never learn proper execution of elbows from watching vid clips. you need one on one training at legit gym, then watch clips to review what you've forgotten from training with your teacher. Incidentally, spear elbow strike#4 @5:53 is better, if you place palm on your forehead for support, and protect your jaw with your deltoid muscles.
Love your other channel, amazing juijitsu. However this... Your opponent has 2 heads? I'd like something more realistic. No one will allow you to hit him in the head , that's why they use diagonal-more faster elbow strikes. Combinations please!
If two heads are better than one you had better have some really sharp self defense techniques ready for two headed opponents!
@@SelfDefenseTutorials if you ever run across a two-headed individual, please let me know.
I speared a guy in the chest who was a head taller than me. That took the fight right out of him.
5:50 spearing elbows to the neck should probably be illegal in MMA before people learn about it.
You need to check out Southern Kung Fu
คนไทยใช้หมัดเท้าเข่าศอก ในศึกสงครามป้องกันชาติบ้านเมืองมาแต่สมัยโบราณ และพัฒนามาเป็นกีฬาการต่อสู้ที่ดีที่สุดชนิดหนึ่งของโลก
I'd say : this was quite thoroughly covered .
'Like' and 'subbed'
welcome to drop by as well.
Finalmente... né stephan 👍
Is that a sad Patrick Stewart?
Sir Patrick Stewart after the Emoji movie.
Patrick Stewart is never sad.
Not even after the Emoji movie? I'd be hitting the bottle until i die from alcohol poisoning if i did even a minor roll in that travesty.
Word of warning; Not a good idea to use an elbow strike as an
Offensive strike----No, rather, use it in conjunction with a Defen-
sive 'Cover.' Always use your Longest weapons ( extended) for
Offense.
I've heard of the Spearing elbow, but we call it a Rhino strike.
with the right -wrong- amount of force, a single elbow strike will kill
The jumping 12-6 elbow is a nice drill on the heavy bag, the set up is like a superman punch (to get some airtime)
then grab the top of the heavy bag (a fistful of hair/hand at rear of head) to pull the crown under the dropping RH elbow
It's not exactly what Mr Miyagi would espouse...
When will people learn that its not in the technique but where you target. You said some elbows are useless. But that depends on where you target. If you target the temple for instance the elbow would NOT be useless.
I trust men with lisp when it comes to fighting...they been fighting all they lives like mike tyson.
these guy looks lethal;a mobile arsenal....