I was homeless in a big city. At first I tried the shelter because it was winter. The shelter would kick you out at 6am rain, snow, or shine. You weren’t allowed back in until night time. The shelter was sooo nasty. People shitting on the floor in the showers and it was just plain nasty so I went to the streets. I stayed in trap houses or abandoned homes. I was on hard drugs. Eventually got arrested at the hospital due to a probation warrant. Being homeless was the worse part of my active addiction. Did my prison time, found a good woman who saved my life and stuck out the bad times. Now I’m a little over 2 years clean and happily married. Life is good you just have to do good things.
Exactly! Keep up the good work! I had time in prison to think and realize the problem all those years was me and my decisions! Happily married now with a daughter and I started a buisness!
What do you think about this man's plan to curb homelessness/addiction? Did time myself and for most, that doesn't even work. I feel that the only way to end the hard drug epidemic is to eradicate it from the source, squash the drug cartels, and give out life sentences (or worse) to producers and traffickers. All the other stuff is wishful thinking.
I've lived in downtown LA for about 15 years and the one thing I consistently think while walking through skid row is "these people could totally learn Python."
Yeah but maybe we should set up a gladiator league for the homeless. Allows them a chance to come up in the world, maybe get sponsored. Not to mention , ya know, good entertainment? Start our own streaming services and charge like Netflix? Let us not leave money on the table. You idiots. I know about bum fights. I'm speaking about a Rome gladiator style event. With tigers and bears and in stadium. Not bum fights. Up your imagination, not bum fights. Edit: Let's make this happen, boys. Who wants to become a mogul with me?
I was homeless for 8 months, broke into motel rooms and had a tent off of a bike trail by a creek, all due to my heroin addiction. Thank god for my family and for God, I ended up getting pregnant, found out in booking after getting arrested for a warrant, and the jail took me to treatment (methadone) and it saved my life. Had my son, he’s healthy and happy! I’ve remained in treatment and I’m slowly but surely getting off of methadone, but it has completely saved my life! I have a good job now, my son is in preschool, and I’ve been clean 4 1/2 years! But His dad (who also was a heroin addict, we used together) has been clean 4 years (he goes to methadone clinic with me) and works for the county and is a great dad to our son! There is hope! Make the choice to get better!!! There is another way and you just need to finally take that step to change your life!
I am glad you both got your life on track, and your son is doing well. From your perspective, what do you see as potential steps that can be taken by local government/communities to help address homelessness? Of course, the individuals that are homeless also have to be actively trying to step out of where they are otherwise nothing works. In the case where people are unwilling or unable to participate what then?
Methadone is only thing that helped get me an my man clean almost 7 years clean . Today is actually the day we went into treatment Dec 23rd 2015. Our clean day is Feb 2nd 2016
As someone who lived in shelters for nearly 2 years, it’s the reappropriating funds. Most places want to look like they’re helping, but are doing the bare minimum and taking funds for themselves. They’re more interested in keeping the system like it is than actually helping people.
Yep. Counselors want to sound like they're helping you but insist on keeping you there. I'm so happy I'm out of that mess. Just had to find my own way out
I worked Skid Row as an LAPD rookie in 1990. 32 years later, it’s worse. Really smart people figure out how to make a lot of money writing grants to solve this problem, get the grant money, and then don’t solve the problem. There’s a lot of money out there to be made not solving this problem, while convincing foundations you are.
That's what someone else said one time on Joe's Podcast. There are a lot of people with high-paying jobs who are working on homelessness. If it gets fixed, they don't have a job, so they don't really want it fixed. That's what they said.
Many people are employed with good salaries by being poverty pimps. The only thing they do is find money to hire babysitters for homeless in shelters or temporary programs that are revolving doors Permnant housing that's decent is the only thing that will ameliorate this problem and still it's cheaper than prisons
It's not happening just in L.A. It's every where. This dude is doing exactly what your talking about. He says It's Great Land, just need funding. You know and we will be so good people will come for help. Then says we need Federal money because states sending their homeless. When they go their for Best Drugs, Great Weather, and politicians who let them do whatever and pocket money their supposed to help them with. That's Personal experience. This is another Con Man. Joe Says it LA is to far gone. So is the state. You can't start in Dumb MASS of money. When you can do same thing in another state for 10% cost. Tax credit doesn't count because state broker then the drunk down the hall.
Exactly! Fallow the money. You would be surprised how meny of these nonprofits, actually make a profit! There's no money in ending the problem, because a LOT of folks are making a LOT of $$ off said problem! They could end it if they really wanted to. But why? When cause ends, so does THEIR income! It's not THEIR lives on the line everyday. Because THEIR not the ones on the street! They care? Really? Bullshit! They care alright, about THEIR paycheck! I saw it while on the streets at 23. Most all of these "social service" outfits have their hand out, both public and private. While some may make low wages, ain't NOBODY working there for free! Grants? Just more $ they can "mis-spend", or spend on programs that they know don't work. While the programs that do show some success(and they DO exsist) are "just not how WE do it here", or "to costly", or get some other exuse. That's because they see the $$ train stopping if adopted there.(these folks aren't stupid) Street people are just $$ signs to those in power at these outfits, sadly! They refuse to do what works, then claim they just need more time, money, ECT. If they just had more "resources" they could fix things. Really? Hasn't happened yet! Fallow the $$! THAT WILL take you to what really what needs fixing! But that makes too much sense, and not enough $$.
I volunteered working with the homeless at a shelter in a very large city. The thing that surprised me and is rarely talked about are the number of homeless people with head/brain injuries or people released from a long hospital stay, 6months+ and lost their apartment and everything they owned or people who came to the big city for specialized out patient healthcare, chemotherapy etc and can't afford to rent a place to stay. Perhaps the saddest and fortunately rarest cases I saw at that shelter are seniors who lost a spouse, have no family and lose their apartment because they can no longer afford it on a single pension, and they are suffering from cognitive decline.
That doesn't make any sense. If a person is incapacitated for that long with no family then the state takes over. The state becomes their guardian and the guardian of whatever they own. Now if you're In a coma for several years the state might not keep up rent payments and move your things to storage but they will help you get back on your feet should you wake up. During his time you will of course be on Medicaid as you no longer make insurance payments.
I was homeless for a COLD Canadian winter from Nov 2017 to March 2018. I was lucky that I still had a job and had a car so I was not forced to camp in a tent or anything like that. It was all due to losing a rent controlled apartment and being unable to find anything affordable in a short period of time. I outright refused to go to a shelter. The thing that encouraged me the most to get off the street was that it was NOT easy. It fully sucked and I was all alone in it. I could have taken all sorts of charity and handouts but I refused. I knew I could do it and all I needed was time. I almost lost my job when they found out and I pointed out that their behaviour was not conducive to actually helping me. I wound up just having to outright lie to them and tell them I found a place and I'll get my info to HR as soon as possible...blah blah blah. I did what I could to make use of the situation in that I had to be very careful with my diet...no fridge and cooking wasn't easy, I hit the gym every morning before work and this allowed me to shower and groom every day and i specifically put in effort to stay away from drugs or anything else that would just numb the pain and distract me from my situation. I let myself experience it and used it to change my situation. It was actually very amazing, and saddening, at just how many people tried to shame me for all of this. I pointed out that I had done something that NONE of them would have ever been able to do and through it all I discovered parts of myself I never knew even existed.
Well with the economy and stocks at where it is now, I'd be disappointed if people weren't making any error on their portfolio at this time, it was much easier to navigate during the bullrun, regardless I still see and read articles of people pulling over $225k by the weeks in trades, how come?
Everything relies on how long you're willing to hold for and your systems, stocks could probably tank further, yet making serious additions in this downtrend ought not be an issue in the event that you're a genius
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Being a former homless addict I will say the inconvenient truth. The only thing that helped me was putting alot of space and work between me and my drug of choice. Drugs are way to easy to get. If its in my face all the time I cannot avoid the absolutely overpowering desire to use. But if it involves even a small amount of work and inconvenience suddenly its so much easier to stay sober.
If you're not going to do a recovery program, I highly suggest that you need to work on yourself, within. Cheers brother. Take it one day at a time and be good to yourself, you're worth it bro!
This is what I've always said, spread them out far away from each other in the desert and keep an eye out for them. There's a reason you rarely see homeless in the country. when you have no money you won't survive and forced to get your shit together. Cities that create shelters or "help" does not help. These people need A BIG ASS FUCKING WAKE UP CALL.. the greatest gains in live comes from the lowest points.
During my time homeless in a wheelchair in Sacramento, 2017-18, I found an opening in senior living and thought I would be going home after losing mine of 15 years to rent doubling. 5 years later I'm still hurt and angry at the letter the senior complex sent. My request for housing was REFUSED because I was homeless and they could not verify a housed address! The trouble with ignorant policies is no one working within them bother to question or make rational changes, they just parrot them and say, "That's the way it is" before hanging up. I still cry with the retelling because they didn't care that I was cold, it was Winter, very afraid and had done nothing to deserve being thrown out with 200 other disabled seniors so rents could be raised.
Watching my little sister become homeless made me realize why people become homeless. Her drug addiction turned her into someone who would lie and steal from absolutely anyone. Especially the most caring of our family members. I stopped “helping” homeless people I meet after that.
If you stay off drugs/alcohol… you will not be homeless for longer than 6 months. There are so many homeless programs that will throw resources at people to “get a win” on their books.
The question you should ask is why did your sister become an addict. You think she just woke up one day and thought that was a good choice? Maybe she can't be helped or maybe the help is not just giving her a place to stay and food. That doesn't get to the "why". The "why" can get ugly though...because it usually then other family members get implicated (many times in crimes) and people don't like that.
@@chicagonorthsider Stop blaming (and thus enabling) an addicts behavior on other people. Addicts have no one to blame but themselves for their problems. Full stop.
@@chicagonorthsiderthere's plenty of external factors for becoming an addict. It's the addicts fault unless it's dr prescribed. Those are the only circumstances where I feel for the addict. I always refuse pain meds after seeing what's happened to friends
This subject hits me personally. I have one brother who’s 27 and addicted to crack cocaine. And I have another brother who’s 24 and is schizophrenic and doesn’t take medication or treatment. They’re both homeless now cause of stealing and just plain out being disrespectful non stop to family members who’ve tried to help. I tell myself hey it’s over and just love them from a distance. But they’re my blood and it does bother me that I feel helpless.
I think people like them need a structured program. Jail sucks and so do mental health wards for getting better.
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I see you are connecting to your own pain and your family's pain.. but no one puts themselves in the others shoes. they are going through way more pain than all of you combined.
My uncle visited from out of state I took him to downtown San Diego, his mind was blown away by the number of tents and we were not even close to where most of the homeless are. He called my aunt just to tell her Texas "not his state but one he visited" had far fewer homeless and they were blown away by Texas homelessness. The trolley was recently finished since then my truck has been broken into three times and just last night my brother's rear window was smashed. We are not skidrow yet but closer and closer each day.
Hey Mike. Respectfully, wildland firefighting isn't a profession where you can simply give people in recovery a job simply to fill vacancies or bolster manpower shortages. Your survival and that of other members on the lines takes years of training and conditioning not to mention a deliberate intention to be there . . .
True compassion means tough love and tough love requires a stable, balanced, compassionate mind. On one extreme side you have people who will never consider tough love actual love because it makes people feel bad. On the other extreme side you will have people who use tough love as an excuse to be sadistic. I don't know if there are enough balanced, sane, intelligent, truly compassionate people to meet the number of people who are in need of total life reform.
theyll just keep voting with their hearts while those they vote for do nothing about the problems and rob us blind. the statist mentality is disgusting.
This is tough to translate to government and social programs. (No, the fact that "it's hard" is not a reason to not try.) I appreciate Schellenberger's emphasis on case managers. This is a hard job, however, and there'd need to be clear incentives for the recipients to stay in contact. Lots of hard problems here. It saddens me that most are so selfish and callous to the plight of their fellow man. No, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" isn't a valid answer.
I'm so thankful that my landlords are renting me a place to live in at a reasonable rate . Inflation is uncomfortable but i'm thankful that my job pays for my life.
You are lucky because rents are going up everywhere . Rent prices rose by 0.8% in june from a month earlier, according to the labor department it is the largest monthly gain since 1986.
How can the typical family with average income afford a higher rate+ more expensive home? in my area multi generational home is becoming the norm . Don’t forget to add the inflation which just this week was 9.1 on the CPI , producers index 11.3, it’s going to be a rough ride for sure.
@@Natalieneptune469 Time will tell how this period will treat people that never save, invest, lived beyond means, paycheck to paycheck, too many kids, too big of home, keeping up with the joneses with FOMO,YOLO, paying alimony, child support, etc
Austin homeless are all over. An ex-homeless guy bought a home with a number of acres on the outskirts of the city and allows homeless in tents - as long as they follow rules to live on his property. Actually contributed to a more stable environment for them. Read that in the local paper when I was in Austin back in Oct 2022
I can add something as a “case worker” (that’s not the term we use at this agency but it’s the same idea) it is hard as hell to help people who refuse to cooperate.
And why do they 'refuse' to cooperate? Maybe because their mind is mashed potatoes from a TBI in the military? Maybe they refuse because their delusional schizophrenic episodes get in the way? I at least appreciate those who say "sorry, life happens, fuck the homeless" at least theyre consisent, but people like you who cop this moral attitude are the worst. "Aww shucks, we WANT to help them, they just don't want help...at LeaSt We TriEd"
Maybe don't help them then. People need to grow a pair. I zero patience for the "addiction is a disease" people. No it's just a mildly difficult task that you either do or you don't, your choice. End of the day people don't do anything they don't want to do. Ever.
@@Luke-pk9fe Who's talking about forcing people who don't want to change. The point is if you want to spend less tax money you should treat these people in addiction clinics so that they contribute to society, not lock them up at tax payer expense only to be released and end up exactly the same as before they went in. People like you care more about blame and punishment than making the world a better place. Ironic considering most of you think your Christian.
I would vote for anyone with a detailed, well-thought-out plan over those who have spent decades creating the problem and who want to maintain the status quo.
This is great and all but as someone who’s worked in recovery services for nearly 15 years and as someone who will have 15 years clean myself this year no one stays sober unless they themselves want to and I don’t mean that they would like to I mean that they are finally willing to do anything and whatever they have to to get sober. If u go in with cops and force people into rehabs by force of law then as soon as they get out 30 or 90 or 180 days later they will just return to skid row and start using again.
Yeah but a lot of times that desire to stay sober for yourself can only be spurred on by some type of environmental change. Definitionally changes are needed to induce that shift in perspective, doesn't matter if that thing is good or bad, internal or external. So rehab will give a window of time to hopefully aid in finding that desire. In addition you'll have a transitionary path towards a job afterwards, and a specialized case worker to set you up properly with housing, healthcare access, employment, etc. Outsourcing these stresses and obligations increases the likelihood of a person finding that desire a lot.
Yup the addictions cure rate is pretty clear. They have to want it more than anything, almost like having a religious experience or it won't happen. The only people I've seen quit wanted it so bad they were willing to disassociate with everyone in their former life and vanish to make it happen. You can't get clean if you're still surrounded by the same people and doing the same things.
When I was a kid my mom worked for an organization that would find jobs for low income people, she would try to find connections with local businesses and pull whatever strings she could to help her people get hired, the other case managers would either do nothing all day or occasionally look in the Want Ads in the local paper- my mom quickly rose to be their senior grant writer- my point: the "case managers" for the low income are very low paying jobs and they attract low skill people that are just collecting a paycheck and don't care about what they're doing
I was homeless and have never been involved with drugs. I came from a dysfunctional family and when parents died had minimal support from other family. I did find work but mostly on a temporary basis and got me thru at times but it was never permanent and I wound up back on the streets. I'm in supported housing and now am on SSI so I have income again and am managing my life again. There are no easy answers but Newsom's plan to throw money at the problem will fail in the long run.
My friend, you have not failed, the system has failed you. All by design. Cannot seek success with such system. Godwilling we will figure it out and find a way. Sorry to hear of your parents, rest in peace.
If you were ever in a homeless encampment, what percentage of people in those places aren’t drug users and are like yourself, someone who just got dealt a shitty hand and were on the streets? From other people I’ve talked to, a vast majority of the homeless population, at least in my city, are choosing to be homeless and use drugs.
@@jimmyringz2550 Ok? Those people also have stable jobs and can afford to use drugs if they want. In Olympia where I’m from, our government offers to house the homeless in tiny homes for free, help them get a job, provide them with money/food card, on the one condition that they stop using drugs and work a job. I’d say 90% of them decline the offer because they would rather live with no rules and do what they want while living in a tent/broken down camper.
Joe needs to have Mark Liata on his show; he's interviewed thousands of skid row residents over the years and has great insights as to the causes and solutions to the problem
The youtube algorithm loves Mark Laita. I agree he'd make a great guest. I watched one video of his and then my entire recommended feed was full of his black and white thumbnails. I don't watch them that often because they're just depressing. I was born in L.A. and spent my entire life here. My business is a few miles away from skid row. I already deal with the homeless situation on a daily basis and have witnessed the explosion of the crisis over the last decade or so. Almost all of his subjects have the same story of being abused as a kid. It's messed up. And it's true that most of the homeless in L.A. aren't even from here. The policies have made it a safe haven for these encampments. And billions have been thrown towards "fixing" the problem, and a lot of people got rich off of it and have no intentions of fixing it while the money is rolling in. Money can't solve this. It's a policy issue.
I actually work in homelessness outreach in San Bernardino county next to LA and what makes my program work is that we consistently follow up…case management is the key and that are program has multiple entities from behavioral health services to Sheriffs department working together
Case management can only do so much because there is no repercussions for your clients if they choose to completely disregard the program and or lie about what their doing etc.
Here's my plan: 1) declare camps, whole areas a "Drug Scene". 2) round up EVERYBODY. 3) Test EVERYBODY. 4) Those who are clean get a choice. 5) Those who deal drug get charges. On the 2nd offense they get a death sentence. 6) Addicts get court ordered rehab, starting with in-patient, followed by outpatient.
Highly recommend the channel Soft White Underbelly by Mark Laita. He does a lot of interviews with homeless people and has recently done a video talking about the reason why homeless is a problem. If you simply give homeless people housing it fixes 'homelessness' but it doesn't fix the core issues of drugs, childhood trauma, mental illness, etc.
Wonderful channel! Laita emphasizes the nuances of these issues. Behind homelessness is drug use which is from childhood trauma , etc. definitely a complex issue that’s not just as simple as free housing.
I was homeless on two occasions here in nowheresville, Ohio; never had a drug problem just never owned a car, or had living relatives by time I was 21, rural small town job markets can be scarce, just got my footing in life much later than my peers who had supporting families and families made through community, hell the people with drug problems had more than me. Not everyone has a problem, but they should at least be given a place to be heard and understood and sat down to see the core of why they live without.
I mean the number one cause of homelessness is lack of affordable housing while drug abuse is third or fourth I believe, but I mean people don’t come to this for facts, they come to confirm their biases
Update: I'm now 3 yrs clean and have been working at 2 different rehabs for the last 2 years. Our success rate has fallen below 1% and I'm seeing the same people for the 4th and 5th time. They put EVERYONE on suboxone and it's the first thing they ask for during intake. I'm tired of dealing with rock bottom everyday and will be seeking employment out of this field in 2023. It's the only was to continue to progress my own recovery.
fire fighting was my first job out of high school during the spring and summer, my grad class was in Feb. Then I joined the Marine Corps Reserve and my day job was at General Grinding in Oakland running a huge surface grinder, Blanchard with a 72" table.
Joe NEEDS to have Mark Laita from Soft White Underbelly on the show. Some of the craziest interviews I've seen come from him and the people from Skid Row he talks to. Would love to hear what he has to say on these issues even if he is just a interviewer and photographer I'm sure he has some insight into these issues
Good to see someone mentioning this. The whole time they were talking about "money solving this issue" I was thinking "ask Mark and he will tell you that's clearly NOT the solution".
The growth of homelessness in cities and open drug use seems to be a symptom of societal decay. You can treat the symptom but unless the root causes are addressed you’ll be constantly dealing with these issues.
And what are these causes? "Wokeness"? "Communism"? Atheism? What is societal decay? Because you can't own black people as slaves anymore you think your society is decaying? What is it?
"You can treat the symptom but unless the root causes are addressed..." and those are? At the start of your comment it sounds like drugs are part of this decay. And that would be one wrongful fingerpointing if i ever saw one...
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 the root of societal decay? Just look around you. Shit food, unhealthy sedentary lifestyles, over consumption to make up for our lack of connection to people and any kind of spirituality/religion, over sexualized entertainment industry, glorifying drug use... I mean, there's very little quality out there unless you make an effort and look for something different.
I love how rich and famous people think that this is a lifestyle choice. Trust me none of those inconvenient people are happy about having to make you irritated. When they say 'there is something we have to do.' what they really mean is 'there must be some place we can put them so I don't have to see or be near them.'
Why should anyone have to put up with the destructive life choices of others, if local government cannot stop these people from destroying the area they are occupying they have no legitimacy. It’s the one thing they should be able to do to justify the power they have. The problem is these people all think like you and are about as useful as putting a an addict in a house in these communities and expecting them not to be the same person
I use to sign specific cards to show that people were going to meetings in DTLA (ie Los Angeles). Of all the homeless in DTLA maybe 8-10 people (male and female) were that program that provided shelters at the SRO's. There is a program in place but people tend to not be involved.
yea temperatures have a lot to do with it, northern countries don't have homeless problem because they all freeze in the winter and die drugged out in the ditch somewhere
Hi! Temperature and 'the weather' is often pointed to as one of the top motivators/attractors for homeless. This can cause folks to shrug and think there is nothing that can be done because we can't change the weather. Chris Rufo wrote a comprehensive data driven look at cities with comparable temperatures but very different local policies and found that perceived lenience towards outdoor drug use and homelessness is a larger and more important factor than the weather. Look also at the weather in Seattle and Portland and those cities' corresponding policies in the past - their lenience predated Cali's present day policies, and their weather is inarguably worse in every way.
Make people responsible. If you give them everything without consequences they’ll be like pigeons when you feed them at the park. They just keep coming and coming.
I live in Sacramento CA. Homeless people are everywhere. Children are living in campers on the street. People pass out high in front of fire stations. Its scary.
I was nearly homeless. I lost my job, lost my car, was given a place to stay, unable to find work, was asked to move out. I called a local woman’s transitional housing and they gave me a place to live. They require daily chores, and all essentials are given. Weekly classes to learn basic life skills. Once work is found rent is due based on how much your job is. After you are considered self sufficient they give all the rent you paid back to you to help with new place to live. House has local connection to police department in case of break in and alarms to make sure no one breaks in. What’s important to the homeless community to have the resources there to help and the right people to help them. I think going after the dealers more harshly. I think that giving some a bike for transportation as well.
That's actually what addicts need, is to find purpose again. A person without a goal will wander mindlessly until they become an addict to something. Giving them chores, some sort of training and helping them find a job is great. And when they take "rent" but actually its basically a saving is a brilliant idea. And yes, they need to go after these dealers who are providing them the drugs that they do right there on the spot. Bust them ALL...
That's an actual good program...but not sustainable by anything other than massive charitable donations and/or taxpayer money. Most homeless have no problems obtaining a Bike, and they already ride the Bus for Free.
there is a team of people that are working on housing the homeless, and they make 6 figures each, and the problem continues to get worse. MORE MONEY PLEEEASE
Being surrounded by homeless people always makes me depressed, there are some small groups of people that's trying to help them Seriously did not expect the United States to have this many issues with homeless But in the end we're dealing with a combination of drug addicts mental illness Laziness Criminals that reoffend.
160,000 homeless wow, i knew it was bad when i visited Downtown LA at this fine restaurant and i literally saw a man walking around no socks or shoes in 113 degree weather Ali he picked up a half eaten peach off the ground and ate it. At that moment i went back to my hometown Birmingham Alabama and wanted to help my community more just because I’ll never forget what i saw
I been a dopefiend for 27yrs. Drug addict a bit longer. I live/lived on the streets a large majority of my life. I'm still in the streets here in Baltimore. What these people don't get is that it don't matter how many programs and incentives or whatever u try to implement.,it's not gonna work unless the individuals themselves wanna stop using/drinking or whatever. The things people like him are trying to do make it easier for people like myself to take full advantage of . This is just fact.
There needs to be an active supply of clean and metered drugs to slowly step people down over time. Drug tests and blood work to keep people honest. Some inpatients, some outpatient. Not easy and not cheap. Some people will never be able to quit, after enough damage is done the body will have to be medicated for life. Programs that operate along these lines are the only ones that I have ever seen or heard as being effective at all. Just holding someone's hand while they go through hell itself doesn't work very well.
If you can't tap into the root problem for each individual all this money being thrown around to help is completely pointless. The higher-ups are under the impression that it's just one giant group with one giant problem and they're exactly the same. They've been treating it like that though and it has and will fail every time. These are individuals with all different reasons on why they are the way they are. You can't just swoop in and throw money and some magic program and expect to cure everyone like they're the exact same people.
@@fabsmaster5309 it's just my opinion but I do believe if most people in my position were to get real honest with themselves then many of em would say something similiar.
The part about an assertive case manager is key. Having someone who knows how to get you the resources you need and honestly just someone for the addict to be accountable to is gonna be key to a successful recovery. A lot of these people don’t have anything Iike a community of people who they don’t want to fail, their community is dealers and other addicts.
I was a social worker for the homeless in LA. Many atleast half of them were from other states. Other states bus their homeless here. These homeless say they want xyz but they aren't serious. I had a lady that I secured an apartment for her and she sabotaged it and remained at the shelter. Another dude said he wanted substance treatment but never showed up to his appointments. Cops arrest these people all the time and they are out the same day. They dont want mental health treatment despite what they say. These people truly just want to live on the street and smoke meth. I got burned out and quit after a year.
Yeah instead of just complaining. It’s a big problem and you have to start chipping away at the problem somewhere. You also can’t treat all homeless people the same way there are different categories of homeless situation’s. It sounds like he is focusing first on the worst cases which I believe is the largest percentage in LA.
Yeah, you should NEVER bring emotions into homelessness. You should let 2 Rich guys tell us to kidnap homeless and develop everything. Let’s shoot for $4000 one bedroom apartments! Lol
yeah we will just rehab are dope addicts and turn them into software engineers. They can afford a house in just 20 short years. The federal govt better not fund this nonsense. He was right about Austin. The mayor did not do anything. First he allowed them to camp in the city. The It got overturned creating the illusion that a problem came out of nowhere and he solved it.
I'm not convinced i'm voting for this guy, just yet. I agreed with Joe Rogan more often. I always do. I'd say lets get the national guard to setup those triage tents, and/or other cheap housing. What i see currently in skid row is just missions. Missionary (religious) ppl doing the work of God there, helping the homeless there. Such as food banks (food offerings). But we really need to setup a tent city or something like that. The shelters can't be disgusting. Clean living, with counselors. Something like that. If you're in prison, maybe put counselors there too. Gotta help these ppl. Tent cities might work.
One of Reagan's big mistakes was eliminating the country's mental health facilities. Some facilities had problems with abuse and neglect, but they shouldn't have thrown the baby out with the bath water. They dumped mentally ill people without resources or even the ability to recover onto the street to fend for themselves. We need a nationalized mental health hospital again.
@@janettebuckley4170 Antinatalism is the most loving philosophy I have ever come across. It really gets to the core of morality and how it is wrong to impose suffering on others, even if they are just a minority. It is always wrong to force people to suffer and die; it is always wrong to create life. All suffer in the world is because two dopey narcissistic clowns thought only of their own cravings and not the guaranteed and possible suffering that their selfish actions would cause someone else to experience. Like rxpe, sxxual abuse, morder etc, creating life is a nonconsensual imposition of suffering and unfortunately it is probably the worst crime of all as it literally causes all crimes. Antinatalism for the win! Pumping out units, I mean *kids, aka bringing innocent beings into this ‘heavenly’ dimension of misery, suffering, struggling, pain and DEATH, WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION/CONSENT, is NOT the solution/remedy/cure for your personal problems/issues such as: boredom, poverty, selfishness, loneliness, low IQ, **megalomania, shallowness, emptiness, vanity, hero complex syndrome, narcissism, virtue signalling syndrome. Please find a more useful/constructive hobby. 😉 **obsession with the exercise of power *’kids’, aka future: pharmaceutical/medical industrial complex’ life long clients/victims, prison/military industrial complex clients/victims, fascists, satanists, totalitarian single digit IQ nobodies, communists, marxists, bolsheviks, leninists, SJWs, BLMs, socialists, mercenaries, religious freaks wearing funny clothing and head coverings spreading ‘peace’, welfare/benefit queens/kings, cartel members, starving people, broke(n)/bankrupt people from all points of views, hitmen/hitwomen, murderers, witches/warlocks who curse others, murderers wearing uniforms-badges/white coats-stethoscopes/suits-ties, abused people, abusers/users, drunkards, drug addicts, drug dealers, alcoholics, homeless, gang/mafia members, suicide victims, bullies, bullied people, torturers, tortured people, mentally and physically handicapped people, orphans, victims of organ harvesting and human trafficking, single mother victims, dead soldiers, racist group gang members, prostitutes, residents of hell, debt slaves, suckers to participate in the rat race that enables the world wide criminal syndicate(royalty, bankers etc.) to stay rich and become richer. Approximately 27 trillion pounds of chemicals were produced in or imported into the United States(same or more to the other continents/parts of the world) per year in the early part of this decade, which is the equivalent of approximately 74 billion pounds/day (nearly 250 pounds per person). This number does not include fuels, pesticides, pharmaceuticals, or food products. That yummy 'stuff ‘gets into our bodies. Flame retardants in gymnasts, 180+ toxic chemicals in the blood of newborns, the leaching of phlates from plastic wrap into our food, the list goes on and on. So please keep marrying and reproducing. Keep the cycle of misery, suffering and death going, this only helps us the rich/wealthy stay rich and get richer?wealthier. ;) With love, The World Wide Criminal Syndicate: Royalty/Bankers/Industrialists/’Insuranceists’ Here is a cool reason/true story on why you should pump out more units(kid): ‘’It is a sad day as I watch grown people shove their parents into the grave to take their spoils. have watched my cousins kill their parents early by running up their credit, mortgaging their homes, and then having the morphine pumped in them and even one of my cousins even told his mom that she would die today, as he gave permission for the morphine. She had a trake down her throat,s o she could not defend herself, but when he told her that… she looked at me and mom as her eyes got big as silver dollars with fear… my other cousin shoved her mom in a back bedroom for two years and gambled her 2400 a month away. My aunt finally got hold of a phone and called 911… and finally got out of her daughters hell… but then the hospess dropped her and broke her legs and hip and they finished her off with morphine. My other aunt died with liver cancer as her kids fought over her funeral money, as they told her to go on and die. My uncle had a son on crack that pushed him on in the box and these siblings all fell in one years time. Now my siblings are trying to push my mom in the box to get at her money and the sad thing is my mom knows it. I have tried to keep my two sisters off of my mom but they are constantly calling her and demanding that my mom buys them a house so they can leave their husbands. And my hands are tied. My ex and children robbed me a few years back so i know what’s going on but my hands are tied. This is a sad day that we have come to. My mom would fair out better if she had less money but the vultures are swarming. This is so sad and my sisters were raised better.‘’ There are a million statistics showing how single mothers are a scourge on humanity. Don’t perpetuate this cycle of single mothers raising single mothers and boys who end up in prison. Think of the misery you will be causing to an innocent child. While the potential is there to make barren couples happy, there is also the likelihood that you will be enabling a single mother to ruin another child. YOUR child. As long as the government is fighting unwinnable wars, they will need bodies. Paying single moms to spit out children (through government welfare) while discouraging abortions is going to create more single mothers in poverty; Uncle Sam is hoping the men end up in the military while the women become knocked-up single moms just like their mothers did. If the men turn out to be useless, they can always be part of the industrial prison complex instead. "It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and [hunters] of unorthodoxy.” ― Orwell, 1984 “The aim of totalitarian education has never been to install convictions but to destroy the capacity to form any. One of the greatest advantages of the totalitarian elites of the twenties and thirties was to turn any statement of fact into question of motive. The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exists”… ~ Hannah Arendt - The Origins of Totalitarianism (1951) ‘The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is the truth.’ - Ezra Pound The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim. An individual in a crowd is a grain of sand amid other grains of sand, which the wind stirs up at will. - Gustave Le Bon Dis-eases are nothing more than the body's inability to excrete morbid matter that we accumulate from what we eat/drink/inhale/wear/rub on ourselves. In other words: CHRONIC CONSTIPATION IN THE BOWELS AND ORGANS. This is known since adam and eve, since about 6000 years. Empty the body of morbid matter and you recover from ANY so called 'dis-eases' 100% of the time. The constantly changing, self contradictory narrative(s) is(are) a psychological weapon they are deploying, designed to disengage and depress the populace, so they give up thinking and just accept whatever they are told. They will fake the alien invasion. But this alien invasion will not be hostile, they will present this as the second coming of Jesus. And they'll have a fake Jesus, pseudo-Christ (what many, due to the loose translation of the original Greek, call anti-christ; in the original text the word is pseudo-christ, fake christ) and fake Jesus is gonna tell you to be good and take your vaccines and all that. They'll be able to project holographic images everywhere of jesus and alien angels and all that, and 5g network will help them out I think. They've been building up the ancient aliens narrative and all that for a long time. It's all bullshit. The churches will recognize his authority and sell out the humankind apart from a few preachers here and there. And that's it. ‘There are people that believe government, trillionaires, billionaires, big pharma, chemical giants are benevolent entities with only the sheeple’s best interest at heart. Then there’s the rest of us “spoiler alerters.’ "There will come a time when people will go insane, and when they see someone who isn't insane, they will attack him and say, 'You are insane; you aren't like us." - Saint Anthony the Great
Lol facts! My family has tried to get me committed several times throughout the years because of drugs and being a dumbass. Its basically impossible until the patient/addict whatever has decided that it's time. Sadly.
I’m an Uber driver in the greater Los Angeles area. Last couple of weeks I’ve picked up social workers from LA city and/or LA county. The horror stories they tell me about the homeless situation are appalling. 1st. We did agree that there are people that need care, most of those are either Vets or people with serious mental health problems. However, they also pointed out that a majority of homeless are just plain old Bums, don’t wanna work, don’t wanna rent, don’t wanna pay taxes. 2nd. They told me that there are a lot of single mothers that live in shelters, and that some get raped and have their children taken away by social services. 3rd. They offer to rehabilitate the Bums, but they decline time and time again. 4th. And I think the worst of all, anyone can claim homelessness. They literally walk into a social services office, claim they’re homeless and they get to start the paper work right away. Most get and EBT card, we call it Calfresh here. That’s at least $200-$250 a month for food. The. They get free meds if they’re HIV +, that’s btw $2000-$3000 worth of meds alone, then they get Cali Med insurance called Medical for free. Then they get $400-$600 on disabilities and unemployment. All while doing whatever the fuck they want. I’m for helping the homeless. But these people and the ones enabling it are making it worse. All this has been said to me by these 2 social workers, if you are a Social Service provider in SoCal please feel free to comment. Thank you.
I worked at a Homeless Shelter in FT.WORTH.TX in the 90s...There's many that like living out of Society's Customs. They will Not go into a shelter or take housing. It's a Mental health problem.
Michael was correct. The woods are inundated. There has been homeless in many of them for decades, but never seen the numbers I'm seeing now, which in my opinion illustrated the systems failure far more than the visual of fewer homeless near downtown. No different than kicking the clothes under the bed before inviting someone in you room. The problem isn't solved. 😥
I rode horses in the mountains around LA. Was afraid we'd cross a mountain lion but never thought about the homeless hiding up there. In Hawaii the police arrest any homeless they find camping even in the remote areas and destroy what little they own. But homelessness there is still a rampant problem.
well it's better than alternative.. I don't want to see homeless person taking a dump on a street or doing heroin while there are school kids around. It's better them to live in a forest like an animal if they act like one on the street
I had to stop when he mentioned social work. I have about 17 years in the field, which is completely broken. DCF is broken, have literally seen them investigate the wrong parent and harass grandparents. People are surprised when a kid pops off and does something really bad and we then find out there were multiple red flags. This is almost every single case and hardly anyone talks about it. It is a retroactive system and basically you have to do something awful before help is given. Ok, sorry, rant over.
@photag216 Just give people housing. That's something government can do. And stop criminalizing making and selling drugs and people who take drugs. Government never had any right to do that.
@@numbersix8919 "Just give people housing." No. Ive seen that where I am, all the government did was waste my tax dollars on it, the people trash the houses, and contaminated my neighborhood with trash people. If people lack the capacity to contribute something in return for the housing, they need to be in structured care (not prison). This is particularly so for mentally ill and disturbed people.
@@Odyss2023 Are you referring to alcohol? The only drug that is scientifically proven to cause violence? Is actually an inorganic poison that destroys liver and brain? That causes severe birth defects just from a few binges? Alcohol, the only drug guaranteed to kill the addict if they go cold turkey? Yes, we must decriminalize even the hardest drugs, all the way up to alcohol.
The Core Root of the Homeless Problem Comes Down to the Mentality of Everyone in the Environment. For There to Be “CHANGE”, the Mentality of Everyone in the Environment Must “CHANGE”.
In San Diego, the Chargers stadium was scheduled for demolition before SDSU Aztecs purchased it for football. I would have rounded up the homeless and shoved a lot of them in there. Provided medical tents and staff, running water for showers and restroom, and food. Lock them away from drug dealers and the streets in general. Force them to at least seek work after cleaning up. The problem is they mostly look at it as free stuff and will move along once they are needing a crack or fentanyl fix. They would never come back. In downtown, most homeless live directly next to Father Joe's Villages, Salvation Army, and Goodwill. In fact I was a driver for Goodwill and told one guy they would hire him. He was at an intersection holding a sign. $15/hr starting. Medical and leave. Their entire purpose is to help those who have hard times finding work. Goodwill offers free therapy, counseling, etc. They pay your uniforms and anything else you need for the job. The dude flipped me off and started yelling all sorts of obsenities. This one lady outside of Ralphs asked me for money. I didn't have any. Told her I'd get her something to eat. Started yelling at me incoherently, then as I turned around to walk away, I saw a pizza crust fly right next to my head. Politicians throw money at it like the crust. These people don't want to be fixed. The homeless task force in San Diego (lots of taxpayer funding) simply make them leave one area, just to find them in another. Call me cold hearted, I don't care, but I simply just don't care about them anymore. There's nothing I can do. There's nothing anyone else can do. There's nothing politicians can do. Until they're forced to attend mental and drug rehab programs, I'm not interested. Politicians know they don't vote anyway, so why would they truly care?
"Let them eat C++, errr, I mean cake". These people are disabled, 90% of them are gone as far as working jobs and getting a 401k. That's the reality. Its not realistic that 100% of human adults are going to work full time jobs for 45 years. We either need to accept this as a society or...I guess just keep plugging our ears is an option too.
You called it. It blew my mind. This guy, he doesn't even know where to start, And hasn't fixed anything yet... But already, he's daydreaming about all the success he's had. Meanwhile, the streets are still overrun and his head is still in the clouds. He doesn't even have a notion that: Some of these people like the street life. Some of these people like their addictions. Some of those with psych conditions have no interest in being med compliant. Listen to Mark Laita. Thousands of interviews later, All of those people who he interviewed were offered help to get clean + make a new life. Only a handful were interested in the help. I think Laita has said that only a couple who were open to help/rehab actually completed rehab, got clean, stayed clean 2 out of maybe 3,000? Great. We're halfway home now, fellas. Let's put up our feet and have a cocktail. 🤦🤦🤦
@@jeannieneuser5316 you could pick apart pretty much everything this guy's says as wishful thinking or something that's downright failed in the past. I don't listen to a lot of Rogan but it's always funny when he can tell that his guest is just speaking nonsense. The way he kept telling the guy to start with LA county and the guy kept trying to steer away from that thought 😂
This guy seems detached and took this job to make himself feel good about his college degree or something. His heart isn't 100% percent into this. I say, 50% heart 50%t ego.... It can be very hard working with homeless people overall and this guy seems like he's at the end of his wits. Someone else should be put in charge or should join him in pulbic speaking environments.💯
Big problem with these schemes is that it makes your average working class people who live right pay their bills feel like they are being crapped on by government . They work hard just to get by only to see people who do nothing get better apartments & living standards than the working class can afford themselves.
@@finished6267 ...and then everyone goes out and spends that money and it finds it way right back in to the same billionaire's pockets! Then we steal it again and the cycle repeats until Bezos, Gates, Musk and co. decide F-this and stop working for nothing, then nobody can buy anything they need because nobody is incentivised to produce it. Genius!
As if that crackhead is anywhere near true happiness in his mind. Anyone comparing their life with others on such a materialistic basis has their own issues to worry about.
That is a very interesting platform! I hope he has success ... giant steps might be a little 'too rose-colored glasses', but if it works, awesome! I'd like to learn more about how this plays out in future interviews. Imagine that it DOES work, and now there is a model to address the homelessness and reverse it! Incredible!
I believe it’s a lot more. My brother was homeless, even though we never put him out. They find it much easier to live in a tent and continue to use drugs than being inside and subjected to home rules.
Blaming drugs is low IQ logic. There are plenty of people who don't use drugs, and plenty more who have recovered from drug experiences. There are also very famous and wealthy people who use drugs. If you do the math you can see drugs ain't the problem. But yall are dummies. As soon as someone sees a poor person, "he's poor because of drugs."
I was going to give some money to a homeless bloke yesterday, but when I saw a sign around his neck that read "One day, this could be you", I put the change back in my pocket. You can never be too sure nowadays.
Beta approach, sigmas grindset: Ask him his life story. Then buy the sign with the change. Then go downstream in the foot traffic. Add "ask me how $5" to the sign. Now your making the money panhandling people before they get to him. Charge another $20 or more to be video'd. Tell his life story as yours to the people now giving YOU the money to hear the warning it could be them one day after they pay you to hear your story. Pfft keep the change.
I remember from a young age being very disturbed and concerned seeing that there were people who had to live on the street, thinking to myself, "Why is this happening? What can be done to help them? I want to help but I don't know what to do." A few decades later and I still feel the same. Very sad. I hope us humans can find a way through this. Hoping Michael's plans are put into action.
I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor in Idaho and have worked for several community substance abuse agencies and the State. Funding in various programs is allocated strictly in favor of VPs CEOs, and CFOs. For example, when I worked at my previous employer they charged clients / patients close to $40,000 a month for inpatient drug recovery care. My yearly salary was $55,000 a year. The margins for treatment are huge, however; providers are pawns and nothing more. Even individual counseling sessions I was making $30 an hour, but the clients were being charged $150 for that same session.
They’re human too. The “better” option from your perspective may not be the same as theirs but we all want “better”. An individual in crisis sees the choices differently.
@@gemmayoutube no i get it, I’ve definitely been there before. Homeless and drug addicted. Now I work in that field and no matter how much assistance is offered, many are simply unwilling to change. Unfortunate
@@will1319 You have to realise that these homeless people are not like you or me, many of them have mental illness and drug issues. That needs to be addressed first.
@@fredericksinclair They are like me. Exactly like me as a matter of fact. I was homeless and drug addicted with mental health issues. Now I work with the homeless as my full time occupation. I was sharing my experience.
@@will1319 My point is that someone will try to apply rational logic based on their own situation instead of putting themselves into the other persons shoes.
I was working as a landscaper for my second job.My boss would occasionally ask young guys looking for handouts at stoplights if they wanted a days work for cash,12 bucks an hr.under the table,and lunch.Nobody ever took him up on the offer
People are taught these societal problems only on the surface level. Homeless = can’t find a job. It’s always been more. With Section 8 and food stamps you have to want to be homeless, it’s the only way.
I am aspiring homeless, taking steps to live on streets. I am sober and i love work but i dont need all the extra shit that comes with being a drone. Im interesting in finding meaning in my life, and being self sufficient vs cutting ppls grass. The hardest part for me about the work force is how complicated they make a simple task, and feel the need to train and supervise such a task. I played that game since I could set up my own work. Ironically cutting grass and shoveling driveways. Things things things, lots of rules and most of them are to benefit the upperclass. Its all about perspective. You’ll never go hungry if you know what plants feed you, how to gut and clean and animal, what trash cans to look in for food-and how to tell if that food is bad or not. Am I saying that the addicts on the street went soul searching and found fentanyl as there destiny… no. But homeless isnt the problem. Drugs arent the problem. Its not even the person all the time. A LOT of these people had upbringings we have nightmares about ten fold. Its society that fucked these people up. All we need to do is spread unconditional love and compassion towards these people, let them no that SOMEONE cares about them and wants them to do better. Im making it sound easy hippy dippy but in essence this is the answer.
2:05 - Thanks for calling this out, I've been noticing this for a while. There's this weird sort of semi romanticization of homeless encampments as some kind of Depression Era Hooverville of honest hardworking folk who are just temporarily down on their luck until the economy improves.
My uncle was in and out of California prisons over half my life due to drug addiction and the things that often come from that. Once he would sober up he would work hard, learn skills, and get out early on good behavior. Unfortunately he would revert and end up back in a penitentiary. He has always been a good hearted fella, but he had demons he had to fight. He eventually found a good gal who set him straight and he has been working hard as a plumber ever since. He had to work shit jobs (literally) for a while, but now he owns his own business and does real well for himself. He has repaired the relationship with his son who he barely knew and is now a great example of what can be.
My friend worked at shelters. According to him and his other friend who works at shelter. 1. Shelters are very nicely made. 2. Homeless people don't want to stay because in shelters there are policies of no drinking, no drugs, and no alcohol. 3. Homeless people come eat meal, take a shower, get clothing and leaves. 4. Many of the workers aren't nice but you can't blame them because homeless people cause lot of problems where workers become not so nice. And if you are nice, it is hard to control them. At first he didn't understand why workers weren't so nice but after him working there few days he also started to become not so nice.
Shelters are not the solution. They are one minor tool that can be used but not the solution, at all. The greatest way to combat homelessness is to create a flourishing economy with as many jobs as possible. Trump had the right idea. We must deport illegal immigrants and prevent them from entering and create new jobs. There will always be some homelessness. There are those with mental health issues and/or drug and alcohol addiction which only intensified when one is homeless. There will always be those who are incapable of independence. However, when the economy is flourishing the dependent people are usually taken care of by family. When people who are independent lose their jobs and are barely surviving they cannot take care of those family members. It has a cascading affect. The very best way to mitigate homelessness is a flourishing economy and society. When the majority are doing well then society is capable of taking care of the few who cannot take care of themselves. Then the churches can do their jobs to take care of the poor. People donate so there can be successful rehabilitation programs for drug and alcohol abuse. Drug and alcohol abuse is far less when people are doing well. More government is never the solution. Less taxes , less government, less regulation equals a more flourishing people. A flourishing people are capable of creating a society with less homeless suffering people. It’s quite simple. Forced socialism never works, it equates to theft and bureaucracy.When people are flourishing and free they usually give back. Voluntary sharing of resources for the betterment of all is the only way. Socialism sounds great but it never works. It works in theory but not reality. It would work if there was a perfect king and perfect government. However, with imperfect humans there will always be corruption, which means socialism will always fail.
@@jayjayfreedomordeath5800 you got the right idea, have you read the book by Hoppe “democracy the god that failed” ? It talks about how government intervention and leaning more towards a welfare state degrades the general population. It’s an amazing read.
I can absolutely attest to this. I worked at a career center next to a large homeless shelter built by Norwegian cruise lines in downtown Miami. They just sent us people, who aren't ready to work. No employer wants to take the responsibility of rehabbing a person whose been on the streets for years.
He hit the nail on the head with how a lot of people become homeless. A lot people mess up their living situation by abusing drugs and stealing from the people they live with. This snowballs quickly into not having a place to stay and using drugs.
@Beelzebub literally had my brother kicked out because of that. Had another family next to me kick their uncle out because of it. If you were from any form of struggle were drugs were an issue with a relative, you would probably know this is pretty common. But you’re clueless….
People take what Joe says religiously likes he’s an expert of everything but had no idea of what Okies are or the Grapes of Wrath. Like basic US history. Shiiit but peeps like his testbro conversations though.
Another big problem now is what I call the "motorhomeless" in the LA area; streets lined with ancient motorhomes and travel trailers with obvious drug addicts and dealers going in and out of them at all hours.
In most of the country a person making minimum wage at a full time job can't afford an apartment. I remember when that wasn't the case. That's the root of the problem that must be solved.
Definitely agree. I would say that establishing healthy social connections and finding them something to do with their time would help. Rehab is not enough if they are going to have endless free time to feel tempted.
Don't worry, you can trust him...he's wearing a button up shirt that's not buttoned all the way up which is the universal signal for "I am worthy of your trust"...
government has too much power but we need to increase funding to police, redevelop skidrow, increase funding for psychiatry, and increase funding for rehab...it's all the same shit, more spending leading us down this same row (the increase in homeless is directly related to gov spending, as gov't printing money = stealing wealth from people). bitcoin is the long term solution, not anything this guy is proposing.
I am Homeless in San Diego, CA and I am a Homeless Survival Advocate in San Diego County CA & I am the Founder-CEO of San Diego County Homeless Union chapter California Homeless Union
it's so insane i'm 2 paychecks away from a tent. i've worked the same job for decades, worked hard... 2 checks. all it takes to take everything from me. then how would i react? that's insanity
I visited Los Angeles as a poor college student in the late 1980's when the No Camping rule was enforced. This included sleeping in your car and more than once I was awoken to a night stick knocking on my car window at 3am and moved on.
I was homeless for 6 months when I was 18. I wanted to get away from my step father. I stayed in an abandoned house, and eventually got a job and a home etc. I was never a drug addict or alcoholic or anything like that, just didn’t know where to go. My 2 older sisters however were alcoholics and were homeless for 20+ years. One was in the National Guard and just got a job with Cal Trans, and the other was married with 3 sons and a home. But they CHOSE to give it all up for Alcohol and the company that their misery loved. They now have homes again and receive SSI and sitting back and talking we can clearly see that panhandlers and homeless people will never stop unless they want to, and why should they stop when we keep handing them shit. One church would come by and bring food, another would come and bring clothes, then another would bring new tents etc. The panhandlers sometimes look at what they do as a job. Stop giving them handouts! It’s true that they have reached depths of deprivation we don’t know. It’s true. How does someone regain their dignity?
My take, and I don't live in CA, is that the cost of housing is so expensive that many people can't afford a house or rent even if they have a job. Regulations are so strict there that it's difficult to build more housing and I've read that it's not profitable for builders to build new homes that sell for less than $1 million.
The ACLU fought against involuntary psychiatric hospitalization for the homeless decades ago. If we somehow undid that, or tried criminalizing homeless to get around it and built the mental hospitals again, that would solve it. Only way to end it.
The truth of the matter is we KNOW how to fix the problem. The govt (us the taxpayers) pays for their apartments. That's it. We as a society don't want to do this so...the problem will continue. I worked at a housing authority doing a finance internship. The truth is..these people can't hold down full time jobs, they just can't. A HUGE chunk of them have physical disabilities, especially injured vets, another huge chunk had crushing mental health issues. The drugs are a just a coping mechanism they use. The root of the problem is disability.
He has a plan to house the homeless but he says he wants them in therapy or threatened with probation. If I was still an active user I'd choose to stay on the street. Probation is ultimately threatened with the barrel of a pistol
I worked at an inner city library for ten years. it was almost a defacto homeless day room. More than 1/2 of them had obvious substance abuse and or mental illness. I got a few into housing and they got tossed out for psychotic or antisocial behavior. I don't think affordable housing is the main reason for homelessness. some mentally ill people NEED to be hospitalized AGAINST THEIR WILL or at a minimum be forced to take their medication. Sounds harsh but I really think it would make a huge difference
@rollerboogie Exactly. What are they even going to do with housing if they get it without being forced into mental health treatment & rehab? Without some kind of comprehensive & overall approach they'll just be mentally ill drug addicts with a free roof over their head living in a place they're most likely not looking after in the least.
I agree, this guy is just like the rest thinking putting them in homes will help. Then trying to give them options. It's obvious that there choice is to stay where they are.
21 years in parks for a major city close to LA. From my experience, these people don’t want a job or responsibilities. I know there’s underlying issues like mental illness, and addictions. Not once, did I ever hear one homeless person tell me they’re trying to get a job or get off the street. I don’t wanna sound heartless. I was nice to many of them, and made friends and helped them when I could. But after 21 years of that, it was really hard to feel sorry for them!
@@dumisanisimunyu sounds like a lame excuse. So if your homeless and can’t shower, that’s just life after this? People need to stop making excuses for this almost, unfixable problem. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Not to mention, I’ve made friends with many homeless people. They’re not all smelly and dirty. In fact, some of them you wouldn’t even know they’re homeless. I have first had knowledge of these people, obviously, you don’t!!
I was a wild land firefighter during the summer months for a company called Skookam in Eugene, Oregon when I was in college. I’ve battled wild fires in Tennessee, Montana, Oregon, Arizona, California, and Utah. It’s hard work but you also need to to have an understanding of the natural risk factors and be educated on everything from safety to proper usage of all equipment. 12-16 hour days, 14 days at a time, physically demanding. It’s no joke and you need to take a class/pass a test, and meet the physical requirements. It would be a disaster to send recovering drug addicts to do this job for many reasons but most importantly just because they are physically able doesn’t make it a good idea and would put some hard working firefighters in more danger than that are already in.
I started working at Skookum in the early 1990’s & through the 2000’s. Curious which years/seasons you worked there and who’s crew you were on? Skookum Reforestation hived off Hoedads Tree Planting Co-Op way back in the late 1970’s early 1980’s. I know and have worked with many of those early employees and owner/ members.
@@victorcampbell7956 Try to pay attention! We’re discussing addicts who can no longer function in society and are destroying our cities. The functioning alcoholics will retire with a pension and hopefully not be a burden on society.
Im reading all this bullshit coming from the peanut gallery. All any of you see is the surface and you judge off the surface. I know alot of guys who have recovered and work regular jobs after rehab or prison. I even know guys who are firefighters that recovered from addiction. So what's your point. All I see from your stance is allowing the problem to continue because you feel they can't overcome
This is interesting. So, I live in a Dutch town called Heerlen that rather succesfully battled an enormous heroin-epidemic that lasted form the 70's to early 00's: Since our Mining-Industry closed pretty abruptly in the 70's, a large part of the population lost their jobs - despite government trying to allocate different employment. This situation very much escalated when during the same period the Nixon administration initiated a program called 'Golden Flow', which introduced wide-scale drug testing for GI's upon their return from Vietnam. (as described in the book 'AntiCity' by M. Hermans) According to studies of St. Louis University, over 45% of returning GI's had used when abroad, and about 20% had been/were addicted. While some were able to detox themselves, others found this much harder. GI's returning had the option of refusing the tests, and many did this while also signing for another period in the army. They got to spend this time in bases like the local NATO-base that was founded in 1967 right next to our town. Sadly, this situation also provided them the opportunity of creating a straight import of heroin from South-East Asia to our region. Enter: the perfect storm. These relatively young GI's mingled with the local youth in the growing scene of disco's and bar's, which resulted in widespread use of the drugs in question. And as demand grew, our city was overrun by a heroin epidemic and things that come with that: criminality, prostitution, etc. Many attempts were made to solve this matter, but the location only became more popular as German tourists had also become regulars. At one point our local city council decided to close all locations where deals took place, but this only made matters worse, as all business was now going on in plain sight out on the street. The economic damage for the city was enormous, with research revealing that about 42% of 'users' came by their finances through illegal means, many of them engaging in public prostitution. During the 90's our local government already made attempts to curb these goings on, but the city - at one point - was effectively owned by the high amount of homeless and addicted that roamed the streets; safety was at an all-time low. And in the early 00's they finally said: we need to take care of this on a grand scale, and developed what they called 'operation heartbeat'. This was a close coöperation between a lot of parties that could contribute to a structural approach to this problem (think: local government, police, health care, but also the salvation army & many others). It's first fase was focused on repression, with a much more confrontational approach by increased numbers of police. This sent a clear signal to the local population that finally the tide might be turning, and consequently more organizations were motivated to join the effort. Second, a 'scouting team' (if you will) was instigated to monitor exactly how much people were around town during nights and what their cases were. This also led to introducing a pass-system, by which only local cases could get proper treatment and healthcare. And with the knowledge gained, it became clear that the Salvation Army could play an important role in providing food and shelter to (only) these cases. Summer 2003 the police intervened on a large scale, and by that time the whole city center was monitored, which also increased feelings of safety among inhabitants. But the most important part of this approach was realized in 2004, which they called 'Domushouses'. These were day- and night-shelters where people (again: only local and via a pass-system) could take care of themselves, and were indeed also able to 'use' under supervision. For the first time that year, nobody died on the streets. Cases could be taken care of on an individual basis, and other initiatives were started to give people that were doing well a renewed sense of purpose: working together in teams. After this the project was developed further, with some of the organizations still active today. Now it is perhaps most important to mention that all the specialized governmental- and healthcare-organizations working in tandem were very precise in choosing locations where shelters were set-up. They are branded 'shelters', but are actual brick-and-mortar locations in - for example - former empty buildings. These were spread predominantly outside of the city center, as to massively decrease the temptation of the target groups to 'lurk around' in the city itself. Anyways, much more can be said, and of course it is still a work-in-progress to this day. But this is one of the rare things our city got absolutely right - through sheer effort, trial and error. If interested, here is the formal report for the whole trajectory (it's in Dutch, but you can easily throw it into google-translate). Also read 'The Anticity' by M. Hermans, as it explains the full context of what created this terrible situation in the first place. And maybe it might be of help to SF and other cities in the US. Report: www.heerlen.nl/gemeente-heerlen/evaluatierapport-operatie-hartslag-(pdf).pdf peace
Wow! I'm amazed and so interested to read further. I'm trying not to be so cynical and pinpoint where we, as Americans, would fail in this plan. (Specifically our lack of faith in law enforcement.) It's all about money here. The recovery industry is private, so it's in their best interest to keep people addicted, so they keep going back to rehab, or jail/prison which is also a private industry.
@Bronwyn Gavin Totally understand. I would never dare and propose this as a cut-n-paste solution, as it involved a lot of trial-and-error by large organisations, businesses and local government. Yet I thought it would be nice to be able to see a concrete example where an effective approach was indeed found. That being said, your remark concerning 'money' is probably very much on-point, for since 2006 The Netherlands has introduced a universal healthcare system. It’s managed by the government and supplemented by private insurers. Anyone living or working in the Netherlands must obtain basic level health insurance (with or without additional coverage) from a Dutch provider. Under 18s are automatically covered by their parent’s insurance, and health care allowances are in place for the lowest earners, to allow them to access mandatory insurance. This ensures everyone can get help if needed, but competition between providers is also not out of the question. The law-enforcement part I need to think about for a second.
@@larsickenroth7169 I'm curious to know what happened to those who didn't "pass". Were they deported to their country of origin or incarcerated? I'm also curious if your law enforcement carry firearms. I'm just trying to think of how an idea like this could work in the states. Are there still places for people to use safely? When I have the time, I want to read the info that you mentioned. I'm very surprised that America hasn't adopted a universal Healthcare system, not in the way The Netherlands has. Thank you for the dialogue! You seem very intelligent with great insight!
Wow what a great comment. I wish something like that is in the works here in Los Angeles some day. People and cities are worth preserving and we have more than enough resources to do it.
Something that I rarely see talked about when it comes to homeless is: The people who WANT to live this lifestyle. It's not an insignificant number. What do you do when they don't want to work toward the betterment of themselves and society.
I was a case manager and still am in social services as a manager in California. This guest is correct, my opinions may be a bit harsh. I cant tell you how many people we have helped find housing, but it was rejected, because it wasn’t in their “ stomping grounds” and they would rather be homeless and use the ER as a place for shelter and food. Im sorry, but its really time to crack down and I like the suggestions this guest had.
I'm on HUDVASH. My caseworker can't fill his openings because drugs, sex offenses ect. They get someone into a room, they get all their friends and have a rager and get kicked out of program. The majority dont want to work, everything is free, soon want to give free drugs too? Re open mental health, quit feeding drug addicts, they will either get it together, or expire. It will be ugly for awhile, but.....
@@briansharp4388 exactly that's what I think, it should be a rehabilitation center, super comfortable and nice, but with strict rules. And after a while they should start working for the the center so they center can survive and let them live there, continue fixing their mental and depression problems, learn a skill, and when they are ready, let them go in market. This is the only way and the strict rules are the vital part of it. But I would say people who are depressed even they don't need force after they go there and see hope they can fix themselves and be very usefull actually. I usually talk to homeless, the majority of them are really good people, they were just so sensetive and they lost their jobs and then they become addicted to a drug! It's this cycle most of the time!
u shld be "sorry' but ur not. what u really meant is that u offered them a place a couple counties away from their "home base", where they'd be subject to unfamiliar laws, etc. i dare say most ppl, older folks esp, are fearful of the prospect of being forced to start ovr from scratch, disconnected from the meager supprt network they have, esp at their age. that's perfectly natural & doesn't mean they can't still use help. that's what they came for. not to be judged for having a normal reaction to the only "solution" u offered them. quit being lazy & try to address the real problem - which is that u can find them nothing better - instead of shifting the blame to THEM for the fact u can't do a better job, for whatever reason.
The extreme sides being taken here are either shills or poor saps that have been brainwashed by the psy op the shills have been conducting in the comments section of every hot button topic on TH-cam. It's a pretty simple job, just take one of two extreme sides under every controversial video that discusses certain topics that will play a part in major (dystopian) paradigm shifts that are surely in the world and incite emotional tension, easily accomplished with light name calling and intentionally bombastic and passive aggressive language. Essentially we are surrounded by SHIT STIRRERS anywhere you go on the internet, and it's very important to recognize that and not to pay any mind when someone is trying to bait you into some kind of superficial heated discussion that amounts to nonsense and makes fool out of us all.
@@4herstory sorry, but I did my 40, not my job. Dont want to sound cruel but it seems we are approaching critical mass and triage is a bitch, I wish it wasn't, I wish the world was a 70s Coca-Cola commercial, or a norman Rockwell Xmas painting. But it isn't and never has been
He says these things like no one has ever thought of this, having ideas is not the problem. It’s finding bodies, humans qualified and WILLING to do this work. Who pays those salaries, how do they afford the exorbitant home purchase and rental rates in CA??
Lwta start with the $30 Billion surplus that the previous administration stole from us and is just sitting there. Would love to see my money work for aomething.
It's never been about the ideas... It's been about the crooks in power NOT executing the ideas or doing things that are counterproductive to the ideas.
What a shame what is happening to my homeland California! Born, raised and continues to live here...won't give up on California like others have I believe we will make California great again!
With you bro, I’m not leaving San Diego because people here need help. If it was all about just me and my family being comfortable I would def. be in Tennessee or something.
I have been down there and volunteered in the Tenderloin area. The homeless are catered to in a big way in SF. It’s more than just addiction, there are plenty of functioning addicts, but most of these people are done, they’re tired, beat down & wore out. They don’t want to function. So ALL of it is really mental.
15 years ago I was walking through New Orleans with my best girl friend; we passed by a clearly homeless “drug culture” couple. The way she idolized and glamorized this couple was insane to me. I believe that is a real problem still in 2022. Street living, drug culture, community where they feel supported, validated and included in active drug addiction. These people do not WANT to assimilate into “normal” society, especially not to make “normal” people feel better.
A disturbingly high number of women have the common sense of a gold-fish. They absolutely LOVE drama, chaos, and the excitement therein. Woman is 12 years old for life. --- Garry Kasparov
I Worked in rehab, the recovery rate for addicts even with followup and support is less than 10%. Most of these street people will always be unemployable and would normally be institutionalized.
@Krystal Paddock Facts matter, according the Minister of Health of the time, program I ran for seven years was the most successful in Ontario, Canada and the only one that was self supporting. We had a full treatment residential program, 6 month minimum, with physical and psychological rehabilitation, job re-entry training and a two year support and followup program. We had clients from the Canadian Military, Provincial and Federal Corrections, Community and Socual Services, Workman's Compensation and also a variety of local agencies and church groups. We did actual follow up with every client that could be traced five years after completing the program and the results were as I said, very discouraging. Long term recovery for addicts is very rare, my own brother in law hasn't had a drink in over 35 years, but still feels the need to go to AA meetings twice a week.
@@glennwatson3313 I'm a layman, but I think more than 10% of 'addicts' probably become functional again ACCIDENTALLY. If a program is having 10% success I'd say it's obviously doing something very wrong with huge room to rethink and improve. . . .
@Krystal Paddock how many meth heads have you dealt with? It's a fact...most of them don't want help, don't want a job, and don't give a shit. That's the rehab's fault? I'm not saying that we can't help SOME people, but how are you going to get 200,000 people clean, sober, and employed?
In 2013 2 of my buddies and I got our first apartment: a 3 bedroom 2 bath homely cave with single-pane aluminum framed windows and baseboard heat, the carpet stank, but it was $850/ month with trash and water included. A decent version of that would’ve been 1,250/month. Now those same apartments would run about $1,600 & $2,200 respectively. In less than 10 years the price of rent has gone up anywhere from 50-100%. Absolutely outrageous!
This!!! I feel like rent should have a cap. Yeah some people wouldn’t make as much money but they would still have a cash income. More people will be able to afford rent. I feel like the biggest problem is people over charging on rent. Rent should have a cap.
@@O32Cy dude but that’s greed. I see your point the house is mine I do what I want with it. That mentality is the problem. Society needs to be more generous. Money is just paper…
@@O32Cy like bro there are people making billions selling basic human needs water/food. To me that’s ridiculous, no one should be making fortunes selling basic needs. It proves how fucking greedy society is. Remember money is just Paper…
Have you seen the ridiculous amounts people that run these organizations get paid? These people aren't dumb, they aren't going to put themselves out of a job by fixing the homeless problem. They just do enough to make it look like they are doing something like most government employees.
What they mean by that is the "qualified" people working for/at the top of the centralized system are taken care of and have all of the authority. The rest just get fucked. It's the same shit just dressed up and labeled different. The answer is there is no answer because the people with over 95% of the money don't want to fix it. Bums are there to scare the working class slaves into showing up to them low paying jobs.
I was homeless in a big city. At first I tried the shelter because it was winter. The shelter would kick you out at 6am rain, snow, or shine. You weren’t allowed back in until night time. The shelter was sooo nasty. People shitting on the floor in the showers and it was just plain nasty so I went to the streets. I stayed in trap houses or abandoned homes. I was on hard drugs. Eventually got arrested at the hospital due to a probation warrant. Being homeless was the worse part of my active addiction. Did my prison time, found a good woman who saved my life and stuck out the bad times. Now I’m a little over 2 years clean and happily married. Life is good you just have to do good things.
I hope you find hapiness in your life, you deserve it
Exactly! Keep up the good work! I had time in prison to think and realize the problem all those years was me and my decisions! Happily married now with a daughter and I started a buisness!
One nuke would cure all that ails Sodomcisco. 😆😂🤣
Why would someone shit on the floor of the place that is helping them? Were they high?
What do you think about this man's plan to curb homelessness/addiction?
Did time myself and for most, that doesn't even work. I feel that the only way to end the hard drug epidemic is to eradicate it from the source, squash the drug cartels, and give out life sentences (or worse) to producers and traffickers. All the other stuff is wishful thinking.
I've lived in downtown LA for about 15 years and the one thing I consistently think while walking through skid row is "these people could totally learn Python."
coding? stop the cap
@@bane8305 he was being sarcastic to prove how ridiculous the guys statement was. No matter how good of a coder you are, the jobs aren't garaunteed
Yeah but maybe we should set up a gladiator league for the homeless. Allows them a chance to come up in the world, maybe get sponsored. Not to mention , ya know, good entertainment? Start our own streaming services and charge like Netflix? Let us not leave money on the table.
You idiots. I know about bum fights. I'm speaking about a Rome gladiator style event. With tigers and bears and in stadium. Not bum fights. Up your imagination, not bum fights.
Edit: Let's make this happen, boys. Who wants to become a mogul with me?
@@thomasmitchell4128 yeah! Money over Moral :)
@@thomasmitchell4128 I'm rubbing my money on my screen, trying to get it to you but, and nothing is happening!
I was homeless for 8 months, broke into motel rooms and had a tent off of a bike trail by a creek, all due to my heroin addiction. Thank god for my family and for God, I ended up getting pregnant, found out in booking after getting arrested for a warrant, and the jail took me to treatment (methadone) and it saved my life. Had my son, he’s healthy and happy! I’ve remained in treatment and I’m slowly but surely getting off of methadone, but it has completely saved my life! I have a good job now, my son is in preschool, and I’ve been clean 4 1/2 years! But His dad (who also was a heroin addict, we used together) has been clean 4 years (he goes to methadone clinic with me) and works for the county and is a great dad to our son!
There is hope! Make the choice to get better!!! There is another way and you just need to finally take that step to change your life!
I am glad you both got your life on track, and your son is doing well. From your perspective, what do you see as potential steps that can be taken by local government/communities to help address homelessness? Of course, the individuals that are homeless also have to be actively trying to step out of where they are otherwise nothing works. In the case where people are unwilling or unable to participate what then?
God Bless you
Methadone is only thing that helped get me an my man clean almost 7 years clean . Today is actually the day we went into treatment Dec 23rd 2015. Our clean day is Feb 2nd 2016
@@bmoreblondie6301 congrats!!
I so happy u made it out u are strong person whose life has meaning don’t listen others who say u do matter
As someone who lived in shelters for nearly 2 years, it’s the reappropriating funds. Most places want to look like they’re helping, but are doing the bare minimum and taking funds for themselves. They’re more interested in keeping the system like it is than actually helping people.
Yep. Counselors want to sound like they're helping you but insist on keeping you there. I'm so happy I'm out of that mess. Just had to find my own way out
This is our government in a nutshell, pass the buck, do very little, take take take.
I worked Skid Row as an LAPD rookie in 1990. 32 years later, it’s worse. Really smart people figure out how to make a lot of money writing grants to solve this problem, get the grant money, and then don’t solve the problem. There’s a lot of money out there to be made not solving this problem, while convincing foundations you are.
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That's what someone else said one time on Joe's Podcast. There are a lot of people with high-paying jobs who are working on homelessness. If it gets fixed, they don't have a job, so they don't really want it fixed. That's what they said.
Many people are employed with good salaries by being poverty pimps. The only thing they do is find money to hire babysitters for homeless in shelters or temporary programs that are revolving doors Permnant housing that's decent is the only thing that will ameliorate this problem and still it's cheaper than prisons
It's not happening just in L.A. It's every where. This dude is doing exactly what your talking about. He says It's Great Land, just need funding. You know and we will be so good people will come for help. Then says we need Federal money because states sending their homeless. When they go their for Best Drugs, Great Weather, and politicians who let them do whatever and pocket money their supposed to help them with. That's Personal experience. This is another Con Man. Joe Says it LA is to far gone. So is the state. You can't start in Dumb MASS of money. When you can do same thing in another state for 10% cost. Tax credit doesn't count because state broker then the drunk down the hall.
Exactly! Fallow the money. You would be surprised how meny of these nonprofits, actually make a profit!
There's no money in ending the problem, because a LOT of folks are making a LOT of $$ off said problem! They could end it if they really wanted to. But why? When cause ends, so does THEIR income!
It's not THEIR lives on the line everyday. Because THEIR not the ones on the street! They care? Really? Bullshit! They care alright, about THEIR paycheck! I saw it while on the streets at 23.
Most all of these "social service" outfits have their hand out, both public and private. While some may make low wages, ain't NOBODY working there for free! Grants? Just more $ they can "mis-spend", or spend on programs that they know don't work.
While the programs that do show some success(and they DO exsist) are "just not how WE do it here", or "to costly", or get some other exuse. That's because they see the $$ train stopping if adopted there.(these folks aren't stupid)
Street people are just $$ signs to those in power at these outfits, sadly! They refuse to do what works, then claim they just need more time, money, ECT. If they just had more "resources" they could fix things. Really? Hasn't happened yet! Fallow the $$! THAT WILL take you to what really what needs fixing! But that makes too much sense, and not enough $$.
I volunteered working with the homeless at a shelter in a very large city. The thing that surprised me and is rarely talked about are the number of homeless people with head/brain injuries or people released from a long hospital stay, 6months+ and lost their apartment and everything they owned or people who came to the big city for specialized out patient healthcare, chemotherapy etc and can't afford to rent a place to stay.
Perhaps the saddest and fortunately rarest cases I saw at that shelter are seniors who lost a spouse, have no family and lose their apartment because they can no longer afford it on a single pension, and they are suffering from cognitive decline.
statistically thats a very small percentage of them. And those might be the ones we can help. Many multiples more are just drug addicts
@Cyber trump they are americans
@Cyber trump It’s like you didn’t even read the comment??
That doesn't make any sense. If a person is incapacitated for that long with no family then the state takes over. The state becomes their guardian and the guardian of whatever they own. Now if you're In a coma for several years the state might not keep up rent payments and move your things to storage but they will help you get back on your feet should you wake up. During his time you will of course be on Medicaid as you no longer make insurance payments.
@Cyber trump You understand that most homeless are working poor living in the cars and vans right?
I was homeless for a COLD Canadian winter from Nov 2017 to March 2018. I was lucky that I still had a job and had a car so I was not forced to camp in a tent or anything like that. It was all due to losing a rent controlled apartment and being unable to find anything affordable in a short period of time. I outright refused to go to a shelter. The thing that encouraged me the most to get off the street was that it was NOT easy. It fully sucked and I was all alone in it. I could have taken all sorts of charity and handouts but I refused. I knew I could do it and all I needed was time. I almost lost my job when they found out and I pointed out that their behaviour was not conducive to actually helping me. I wound up just having to outright lie to them and tell them I found a place and I'll get my info to HR as soon as possible...blah blah blah.
I did what I could to make use of the situation in that I had to be very careful with my diet...no fridge and cooking wasn't easy, I hit the gym every morning before work and this allowed me to shower and groom every day and i specifically put in effort to stay away from drugs or anything else that would just numb the pain and distract me from my situation. I let myself experience it and used it to change my situation. It was actually very amazing, and saddening, at just how many people tried to shame me for all of this. I pointed out that I had done something that NONE of them would have ever been able to do and through it all I discovered parts of myself I never knew even existed.
You are the true definition of a masculine strong man. Keep up the grind brother
In that type of cold weather.everything feels like ice.even your bowels feel frozen.
You have to put it in a book,best seller guarantee
Could you reply the longer I was hoping more
@@rienaochoa5692 Sure. Not what else I could add but ask away. I'm happy to share.
Well with the economy and stocks at where it is now, I'd be disappointed if people weren't making any error on their portfolio at this time, it was much easier to navigate during the bullrun, regardless I still see and read articles of people pulling over $225k by the weeks in trades, how come?
Everything relies on how long you're willing to hold for and your systems, stocks could probably tank further, yet making serious additions in this downtrend ought not be an issue in the event that you're a genius
The US-Stock Market had been on it’s longest bull-run in history, so the mass hysteria and panic is relatable, considering we’re not accustomed to such troubled markets, but there are avenues lurking around if you know where to look, I’ve netted over $850k in the past 10months and it wasn't some rocket-science strategy. I applied , I just knew I needed a firm and reliable technique to navigate better in these times, so I hired a portfolio advisor.
@@tblazegutt That's impressive, my portfolio have been tanking all year, tried learning new strategies to gain in the current market but all of that flew right over head, please would you mind recommending the invt-adviser you're using?
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Have them all do podcasts.
This right here is a man of solutions
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@@gabriel-uc1uz LOL
Would actually be dope.
"Ever tried DMT under a bridge?"
Being a former homless addict I will say the inconvenient truth. The only thing that helped me was putting alot of space and work between me and my drug of choice. Drugs are way to easy to get. If its in my face all the time I cannot avoid the absolutely overpowering desire to use. But if it involves even a small amount of work and inconvenience suddenly its so much easier to stay sober.
Jamie keep it up, you are inspirational
If you're not going to do a recovery program, I highly suggest that you need to work on yourself, within. Cheers brother. Take it one day at a time and be good to yourself, you're worth it bro!
Sounds like an addict, I’ll only use it if it’s convenient. Plain truth is it can take years and years to grow tired of chasing it
This is what I've always said, spread them out far away from each other in the desert and keep an eye out for them. There's a reason you rarely see homeless in the country. when you have no money you won't survive and forced to get your shit together. Cities that create shelters or "help" does not help. These people need A BIG ASS FUCKING WAKE UP CALL.. the greatest gains in live comes from the lowest points.
OP is why I've never embraced the "drugs ought to be legal" way of thinking.
During my time homeless in a wheelchair in Sacramento, 2017-18, I found an opening in senior living and thought I would be going home after losing mine of 15 years to rent doubling. 5 years later I'm still hurt and angry at the letter the senior complex sent. My request for housing was REFUSED because I was homeless and they could not verify a housed address! The trouble with ignorant policies is no one working within them bother to question or make rational changes, they just parrot them and say, "That's the way it is" before hanging up. I still cry with the retelling because they didn't care that I was cold, it was Winter, very afraid and had done nothing to deserve being thrown out with 200 other disabled seniors so rents could be raised.
Watching my little sister become homeless made me realize why people become homeless. Her drug addiction turned her into someone who would lie and steal from absolutely anyone. Especially the most caring of our family members. I stopped “helping” homeless people I meet after that.
If you stay off drugs/alcohol… you will not be homeless for longer than 6 months. There are so many homeless programs that will throw resources at people to “get a win” on their books.
Every single bum on the street has a similar story. Every single one. Not a single one of those people are just "down on their luck".
The question you should ask is why did your sister become an addict. You think she just woke up one day and thought that was a good choice? Maybe she can't be helped or maybe the help is not just giving her a place to stay and food. That doesn't get to the "why". The "why" can get ugly though...because it usually then other family members get implicated (many times in crimes) and people don't like that.
@@chicagonorthsider Stop blaming (and thus enabling) an addicts behavior on other people. Addicts have no one to blame but themselves for their problems. Full stop.
@@chicagonorthsiderthere's plenty of external factors for becoming an addict. It's the addicts fault unless it's dr prescribed. Those are the only circumstances where I feel for the addict. I always refuse pain meds after seeing what's happened to friends
Buy them one way tickets to politicians’ neighborhoods.
In Denver they were literally camping out on the lawn of the state capitol for years until they finally kicked them out a few months ago
Amazing solution. Bravo. I'm sure the politicians don't have the resources to just move to a different neighborhood.
The homeless problem is a first world problem. Folks have had it too good for too long.
Yeaaaaah!!!!
Which politician?
This subject hits me personally. I have one brother who’s 27 and addicted to crack cocaine. And I have another brother who’s 24 and is schizophrenic and doesn’t take medication or treatment. They’re both homeless now cause of stealing and just plain out being disrespectful non stop to family members who’ve tried to help. I tell myself hey it’s over and just love them from a distance. But they’re my blood and it does bother me that I feel helpless.
It’s not your fault, those things are out of your control.
@@armyoftwo13 keep the feelings of do noting continue, feel better pass to heaven for you.
I think people like them need a structured program. Jail sucks and so do mental health wards for getting better.
I see you are connecting to your own pain and your family's pain.. but no one puts themselves in the others shoes. they are going through way more pain than all of you combined.
@ yeah it's one of those things yeah it hurts being related and seeing it but nothing will be close to living it
My uncle visited from out of state I took him to downtown San Diego, his mind was blown away by the number of tents and we were not even close to where most of the homeless are. He called my aunt just to tell her Texas "not his state but one he visited" had far fewer homeless and they were blown away by Texas homelessness. The trolley was recently finished since then my truck has been broken into three times and just last night my brother's rear window was smashed. We are not skidrow yet but closer and closer each day.
Hey Mike. Respectfully, wildland firefighting isn't a profession where you can simply give people in recovery a job simply to fill vacancies or bolster manpower shortages. Your survival and that of other members on the lines takes years of training and conditioning not to mention a deliberate intention to be there . . .
Until ppl learn the difference between true compassion and enabling this problem will never go away.
True compassion means tough love and tough love requires a stable, balanced, compassionate mind. On one extreme side you have people who will never consider tough love actual love because it makes people feel bad. On the other extreme side you will have people who use tough love as an excuse to be sadistic. I don't know if there are enough balanced, sane, intelligent, truly compassionate people to meet the number of people who are in need of total life reform.
Ah yes we all know tough love has been the answer all along.
@@meinbherpieg4723 well said
theyll just keep voting with their hearts while those they vote for do nothing about the problems and rob us blind. the statist mentality is disgusting.
This is tough to translate to government and social programs. (No, the fact that "it's hard" is not a reason to not try.)
I appreciate Schellenberger's emphasis on case managers. This is a hard job, however, and there'd need to be clear incentives for the recipients to stay in contact. Lots of hard problems here.
It saddens me that most are so selfish and callous to the plight of their fellow man. No, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" isn't a valid answer.
I'm so thankful that my landlords are renting me a place to live in at a reasonable rate . Inflation is uncomfortable but i'm thankful that my job pays for my life.
You are lucky because rents are going up everywhere . Rent prices rose by 0.8% in june from a month earlier, according to the labor department it is the largest monthly gain since 1986.
How can the typical family with average income afford a higher rate+ more expensive home? in my area multi generational home is becoming the norm . Don’t forget to add the inflation which just this week was 9.1 on the CPI , producers index 11.3, it’s going to be a rough ride for sure.
@@Natalieneptune469 Time will tell how this period will treat people that never save, invest, lived beyond means, paycheck to paycheck, too many kids, too big of home, keeping up with the joneses with FOMO,YOLO, paying alimony, child support, etc
@@marianparker7502 I raised all my rents at least 30% in the past year. You better hope your landlord doesn't catch on to reality.
Austin homeless are all over. An ex-homeless guy bought a home with a number of acres on the outskirts of the city and allows homeless in tents - as long as they follow rules to live on his property. Actually contributed to a more stable environment for them.
Read that in the local paper when I was in Austin back in Oct 2022
I have literally never heard anybody talk about how to fix homeless people who sounds like they've ever actually interacted with homeless people.
I can add something as a “case worker” (that’s not the term we use at this agency but it’s the same idea) it is hard as hell to help people who refuse to cooperate.
And why do they 'refuse' to cooperate? Maybe because their mind is mashed potatoes from a TBI in the military? Maybe they refuse because their delusional schizophrenic episodes get in the way? I at least appreciate those who say "sorry, life happens, fuck the homeless" at least theyre consisent, but people like you who cop this moral attitude are the worst. "Aww shucks, we WANT to help them, they just don't want help...at LeaSt We TriEd"
@Krystal Paddock are you r worded ?
Maybe don't help them then.
People need to grow a pair. I zero patience for the "addiction is a disease" people. No it's just a mildly difficult task that you either do or you don't, your choice. End of the day people don't do anything they don't want to do. Ever.
@@Luke-pk9fe Who's talking about forcing people who don't want to change. The point is if you want to spend less tax money you should treat these people in addiction clinics so that they contribute to society, not lock them up at tax payer expense only to be released and end up exactly the same as before they went in. People like you care more about blame and punishment than making the world a better place. Ironic considering most of you think your Christian.
@@Luke-pk9fe Ahh, how fantastic, a Christian has decided to chime in.
I would vote for anyone with a detailed, well-thought-out plan over those who have spent decades creating the problem and who want to maintain the status quo.
Nothing about this guy's plan is well thought out. A statewide no camping ban is just incarceration by another name.
Quit having children
Quit paying taxes
Quit using drugs
@@justified1496 Are you prepared for the Wokies Awards 2022?
Yea this dude is the opposite of that lol!
Reform uk
This is great and all but as someone who’s worked in recovery services for nearly 15 years and as someone who will have 15 years clean myself this year no one stays sober unless they themselves want to and I don’t mean that they would like to I mean that they are finally willing to do anything and whatever they have to to get sober. If u go in with cops and force people into rehabs by force of law then as soon as they get out 30 or 90 or 180 days later they will just return to skid row and start using again.
Dude, exactly. You can't force people not to kill themselves, unfortunately.
Yeah but a lot of times that desire to stay sober for yourself can only be spurred on by some type of environmental change. Definitionally changes are needed to induce that shift in perspective, doesn't matter if that thing is good or bad, internal or external. So rehab will give a window of time to hopefully aid in finding that desire. In addition you'll have a transitionary path towards a job afterwards, and a specialized case worker to set you up properly with housing, healthcare access, employment, etc. Outsourcing these stresses and obligations increases the likelihood of a person finding that desire a lot.
Yup the addictions cure rate is pretty clear. They have to want it more than anything, almost like having a religious experience or it won't happen. The only people I've seen quit wanted it so bad they were willing to disassociate with everyone in their former life and vanish to make it happen. You can't get clean if you're still surrounded by the same people and doing the same things.
When I was a kid my mom worked for an organization that would find jobs for low income people, she would try to find connections with local businesses and pull whatever strings she could to help her people get hired, the other case managers would either do nothing all day or occasionally look in the Want Ads in the local paper- my mom quickly rose to be their senior grant writer- my point: the "case managers" for the low income are very low paying jobs and they attract low skill people that are just collecting a paycheck and don't care about what they're doing
I was homeless and have never been involved with drugs. I came from a dysfunctional family and when parents died had minimal support from other family. I did find work but mostly on a temporary basis and got me thru at times but it was never permanent and I wound up back on the streets. I'm in supported housing and now am on SSI so I have income again and am managing my life again. There are no easy answers but Newsom's plan to throw money at the problem will fail in the long run.
My friend, you have not failed, the system has failed you. All by design. Cannot seek success with such system. Godwilling we will figure it out and find a way. Sorry to hear of your parents, rest in peace.
If you were ever in a homeless encampment, what percentage of people in those places aren’t drug users and are like yourself, someone who just got dealt a shitty hand and were on the streets? From other people I’ve talked to, a vast majority of the homeless population, at least in my city, are choosing to be homeless and use drugs.
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@@thizlam4810 there’s plenty of people with houses that are on drugs
@@jimmyringz2550 Ok? Those people also have stable jobs and can afford to use drugs if they want. In Olympia where I’m from, our government offers to house the homeless in tiny homes for free, help them get a job, provide them with money/food card, on the one condition that they stop using drugs and work a job. I’d say 90% of them decline the offer because they would rather live with no rules and do what they want while living in a tent/broken down camper.
Joe needs to have Mark Liata on his show; he's interviewed thousands of skid row residents over the years and has great insights as to the causes and solutions to the problem
He’s talked about him on the podcast before, I’ll bet he has reached out
You mean Mark has enabled thousands of drug addicts by taking donations on his YT videos.
The youtube algorithm loves Mark Laita. I agree he'd make a great guest. I watched one video of his and then my entire recommended feed was full of his black and white thumbnails. I don't watch them that often because they're just depressing. I was born in L.A. and spent my entire life here. My business is a few miles away from skid row. I already deal with the homeless situation on a daily basis and have witnessed the explosion of the crisis over the last decade or so. Almost all of his subjects have the same story of being abused as a kid. It's messed up.
And it's true that most of the homeless in L.A. aren't even from here. The policies have made it a safe haven for these encampments. And billions have been thrown towards "fixing" the problem, and a lot of people got rich off of it and have no intentions of fixing it while the money is rolling in. Money can't solve this. It's a policy issue.
@@deepg7084
Care to explain why California’s tax dollars are transferred to republican states?
Great idea.
I actually work in homelessness outreach in San Bernardino county next to LA and what makes my program work is that we consistently follow up…case management is the key and that are program has multiple entities from behavioral health services to Sheriffs department working together
Yet San Bernardino has just as bad of homelessness as Los Angeles 😂
Case management can only do so much because there is no repercussions for your clients if they choose to completely disregard the program and or lie about what their doing etc.
Here's my plan:
1) declare camps, whole areas a "Drug Scene".
2) round up EVERYBODY.
3) Test EVERYBODY.
4) Those who are clean get a choice.
5) Those who deal drug get charges. On the 2nd offense they get a death sentence.
6) Addicts get court ordered rehab, starting with in-patient, followed by outpatient.
Highly recommend the channel Soft White Underbelly by Mark Laita. He does a lot of interviews with homeless people and has recently done a video talking about the reason why homeless is a problem. If you simply give homeless people housing it fixes 'homelessness' but it doesn't fix the core issues of drugs, childhood trauma, mental illness, etc.
Good recommendation 👍. Also California Insider is excellent
incredible interviews. Very humanizing for marginalized peoples. Def all should check it out.
Exactly money won’t solve this.
Wonderful channel! Laita emphasizes the nuances of these issues. Behind homelessness is drug use which is from childhood trauma , etc. definitely a complex issue that’s not just as simple as free housing.
@@tech1238 Thank you for the reccomendation!
I was homeless on two occasions here in nowheresville, Ohio; never had a drug problem just never owned a car, or had living relatives by time I was 21, rural small town job markets can be scarce, just got my footing in life much later than my peers who had supporting families and families made through community, hell the people with drug problems had more than me. Not everyone has a problem, but they should at least be given a place to be heard and understood and sat down to see the core of why they live without.
Exactly. The total lack of family is what causes homelessness. In better countries, family sticks together - no excuses.
@@creamydistortion You can't blame someone's actions on their family. Would you let someone steal from you because they're family?
Yes see what they have to say help them long as there willing to better themselves
I mean the number one cause of homelessness is lack of affordable housing while drug abuse is third or fourth I believe, but I mean people don’t come to this for facts, they come to confirm their biases
@@Cpsteg who the fuck said anything about stealing? And you know what desperation is a hell of a drug on its own
Update: I'm now 3 yrs clean and have been working at 2 different rehabs for the last 2 years. Our success rate has fallen below 1% and I'm seeing the same people for the 4th and 5th time. They put EVERYONE on suboxone and it's the first thing they ask for during intake. I'm tired of dealing with rock bottom everyday and will be seeking employment out of this field in 2023. It's the only was to continue to progress my own recovery.
Wish you luck bro
I'm clean via a methadone program. It can be done. Best wishes.
Why wouldn't you change your rehab strategy if you only have a 1% success rate? Split test, iterate, improve.
fire fighting was my first job out of high school during the spring and summer, my grad class was in Feb. Then I joined the Marine Corps Reserve and my day job was at General
Grinding in Oakland running a huge surface grinder, Blanchard with a 72" table.
Joe NEEDS to have Mark Laita from Soft White Underbelly on the show. Some of the craziest interviews I've seen come from him and the people from Skid Row he talks to. Would love to hear what he has to say on these issues even if he is just a interviewer and photographer I'm sure he has some insight into these issues
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Good to see someone mentioning this. The whole time they were talking about "money solving this issue" I was thinking "ask Mark and he will tell you that's clearly NOT the solution".
Agreed
Yes, Mark Laita knows this problem well. Many people are broken from childhood abuse.
Brilliant idea!
The growth of homelessness in cities and open drug use seems to be a symptom of societal decay. You can treat the symptom but unless the root causes are addressed you’ll be constantly dealing with these issues.
And what are these causes? "Wokeness"? "Communism"? Atheism?
What is societal decay? Because you can't own black people as slaves anymore you think your society is decaying? What is it?
"You can treat the symptom but unless the root causes are addressed..." and those are?
At the start of your comment it sounds like drugs are part of this decay. And that would be one wrongful fingerpointing if i ever saw one...
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 the root of societal decay? Just look around you. Shit food, unhealthy sedentary lifestyles, over consumption to make up for our lack of connection to people and any kind of spirituality/religion, over sexualized entertainment industry, glorifying drug use... I mean, there's very little quality out there unless you make an effort and look for something different.
Yeah the root cause is capitalism
Yep
I love how rich and famous people think that this is a lifestyle choice. Trust me none of those inconvenient people are happy about having to make you irritated. When they say 'there is something we have to do.' what they really mean is 'there must be some place we can put them so I don't have to see or be near them.'
Why should anyone have to put up with the destructive life choices of others, if local government cannot stop these people from destroying the area they are occupying they have no legitimacy. It’s the one thing they should be able to do to justify the power they have.
The problem is these people all think like you and are about as useful as putting a an addict in a house in these communities and expecting them not to be the same person
It's a lifestyle choice, they see us working folk as "wagies" or "slaves"
I use to sign specific cards to show that people were going to meetings in DTLA (ie Los Angeles). Of all the homeless in DTLA maybe 8-10 people (male and female) were that program that provided shelters at the SRO's. There is a program in place but people tend to not be involved.
Sadly, you CAN'T force an addict to help themselves. 😞 The reason they are in Cali. Moderate temperatures.
They did in the middle east when America left
yea temperatures have a lot to do with it, northern countries don't have homeless problem because they all freeze in the winter and die drugged out in the ditch somewhere
Yeah in Minnesota we don’t have a homeless problem. We have solutions for that 😈
@@DarthBane-zf8wv uhm, what. 🤨
Hi! Temperature and 'the weather' is often pointed to as one of the top motivators/attractors for homeless. This can cause folks to shrug and think there is nothing that can be done because we can't change the weather. Chris Rufo wrote a comprehensive data driven look at cities with comparable temperatures but very different local policies and found that perceived lenience towards outdoor drug use and homelessness is a larger and more important factor than the weather. Look also at the weather in Seattle and Portland and those cities' corresponding policies in the past - their lenience predated Cali's present day policies, and their weather is inarguably worse in every way.
5 minutes into this and I knew he didn’t have any clue how to fix it
This.
The only solutions will be viewed as inhumane
What is your plan? I’m sure any viable ideas would be considered.
Make people responsible. If you give them everything without consequences they’ll be like pigeons when you feed them at the park. They just keep coming and coming.
I live in Sacramento CA. Homeless people are everywhere. Children are living in campers on the street. People pass out high in front of fire stations. Its scary.
I was nearly homeless. I lost my job, lost my car, was given a place to stay, unable to find work, was asked to move out. I called a local woman’s transitional housing and they gave me a place to live. They require daily chores, and all essentials are given. Weekly classes to learn basic life skills. Once work is found rent is due based on how much your job is. After you are considered self sufficient they give all the rent you paid back to you to help with new place to live. House has local connection to police department in case of break in and alarms to make sure no one breaks in. What’s important to the homeless community to have the resources there to help and the right people to help them. I think going after the dealers more harshly. I think that giving some a bike for transportation as well.
That's actually what addicts need, is to find purpose again. A person without a goal will wander mindlessly until they become an addict to something.
Giving them chores, some sort of training and helping them find a job is great. And when they take "rent" but actually its basically a saving is a brilliant idea.
And yes, they need to go after these dealers who are providing them the drugs that they do right there on the spot. Bust them ALL...
Yea try being a male and "nearly homeless" you won't get fucking anything. Women live life on easy mode.
That's an actual good program...but not sustainable by anything other than massive charitable donations and/or taxpayer money.
Most homeless have no problems obtaining a Bike, and they already ride the Bus for Free.
They go after the dealers but then strike deals with them where they become informants and keep ratting.
Ah yes free sh!t off the backs of everyone else, how honourable.
$1,500/ month for a studio apartment.
Gee, I can't figure out why there's so many homeless in California.
Leave California? Or stay and take the punishment.
@@stapleman007 Good thing moving is free 🙏
You know the government subsidizes family's in poverty right? A lot get free housing and food until they break the law and are forced off of it.
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there is a team of people that are working on housing the homeless, and they make 6 figures each, and the problem continues to get worse. MORE MONEY PLEEEASE
Being surrounded by homeless people always makes me depressed, there are some small groups of people that's trying to help them
Seriously did not expect the United States to have this many issues with homeless
But in the end we're dealing with a combination of
drug addicts
mental illness
Laziness
Criminals that reoffend.
Some people called it Homeless, but some called it a Lifestyle
160,000 homeless wow, i knew it was bad when i visited Downtown LA at this fine restaurant and i literally saw a man walking around no socks or shoes in 113 degree weather Ali he picked up a half eaten peach off the ground and ate it. At that moment i went back to my hometown Birmingham Alabama and wanted to help my community more just because I’ll never forget what i saw
That's a SUPER appropriate response 👌. Ur a good person if there is any truth to the story
Down in Birmingham, they love the governor.
@@dannydandaniel8040 I have no reason to lie
Homeless people from all over the nation move to California.
@@asdfghjklqwertyuiopzxcvbnm2281 What could he have saw?
I been a dopefiend for 27yrs. Drug addict a bit longer. I live/lived on the streets a large majority of my life. I'm still in the streets here in Baltimore. What these people don't get is that it don't matter how many programs and incentives or whatever u try to implement.,it's not gonna work unless the individuals themselves wanna stop using/drinking or whatever. The things people like him are trying to do make it easier for people like myself to take full advantage of . This is just fact.
There needs to be an active supply of clean and metered drugs to slowly step people down over time. Drug tests and blood work to keep people honest. Some inpatients, some outpatient. Not easy and not cheap. Some people will never be able to quit, after enough damage is done the body will have to be medicated for life. Programs that operate along these lines are the only ones that I have ever seen or heard as being effective at all. Just holding someone's hand while they go through hell itself doesn't work very well.
If you can't tap into the root problem for each individual all this money being thrown around to help is completely pointless. The higher-ups are under the impression that it's just one giant group with one giant problem and they're exactly the same. They've been treating it like that though and it has and will fail every time. These are individuals with all different reasons on why they are the way they are. You can't just swoop in and throw money and some magic program and expect to cure everyone like they're the exact same people.
Props to you for admitting the truth.
Probably because you’re on TH-cam instead of trying to get off the street 😒
@@fabsmaster5309 it's just my opinion but I do believe if most people in my position were to get real honest with themselves then many of em would say something similiar.
The part about an assertive case manager is key. Having someone who knows how to get you the resources you need and honestly just someone for the addict to be accountable to is gonna be key to a successful recovery. A lot of these people don’t have anything Iike a community of people who they don’t want to fail, their community is dealers and other addicts.
so what you really need is a "Manager" uh-huh
I was a social worker for the homeless in LA. Many atleast half of them were from other states. Other states bus their homeless here. These homeless say they want xyz but they aren't serious. I had a lady that I secured an apartment for her and she sabotaged it and remained at the shelter. Another dude said he wanted substance treatment but never showed up to his appointments. Cops arrest these people all the time and they are out the same day. They dont want mental health treatment despite what they say. These people truly just want to live on the street and smoke meth. I got burned out and quit after a year.
Hey, someone actually talking about solutions rather than emotions. Definitely will be voting for him.
Yeah instead of just complaining. It’s a big problem and you have to start chipping away at the problem somewhere. You also can’t treat all homeless people the same way there are different categories of homeless situation’s. It sounds like he is focusing first on the worst cases which I believe is the largest percentage in LA.
Yeah, you should NEVER bring emotions into homelessness. You should let 2 Rich guys tell us to kidnap homeless and develop everything. Let’s shoot for $4000 one bedroom apartments! Lol
yeah we will just rehab are dope addicts and turn them into software engineers. They can afford a house in just 20 short years. The federal govt better not fund this nonsense. He was right about Austin. The mayor did not do anything. First he allowed them to camp in the city. The It got overturned creating the illusion that a problem came out of nowhere and he solved it.
I'm not convinced i'm voting for this guy, just yet. I agreed with Joe Rogan more often. I always do. I'd say lets get the national guard to setup those triage tents, and/or other cheap housing. What i see currently in skid row is just missions. Missionary (religious) ppl doing the work of God there, helping the homeless there. Such as food banks (food offerings). But we really need to setup a tent city or something like that. The shelters can't be disgusting. Clean living, with counselors. Something like that. If you're in prison, maybe put counselors there too. Gotta help these ppl. Tent cities might work.
Yep. At least he wants to deal with the issue. Better than complaining about it and throwing up your hands. I’d vote for him if I was able to.
One of Reagan's big mistakes was eliminating the country's mental health facilities. Some facilities had problems with abuse and neglect, but they shouldn't have thrown the baby out with the bath water. They dumped mentally ill people without resources or even the ability to recover onto the street to fend for themselves. We need a nationalized mental health hospital again.
@@janettebuckley4170 Antinatalism is the most loving philosophy I have ever come across. It really gets to the core of morality and how it is wrong to impose suffering on others, even if they are just a minority. It is always wrong to force people to suffer and die; it is always wrong to create life. All suffer in the world is because two dopey narcissistic clowns thought only of their own cravings and not the guaranteed and possible suffering that their selfish actions would cause someone else to experience. Like rxpe, sxxual abuse, morder etc, creating life is a nonconsensual imposition of suffering and unfortunately it is probably the worst crime of all as it literally causes all crimes. Antinatalism for the win!
Pumping out units, I mean *kids, aka bringing innocent beings into this ‘heavenly’ dimension of misery, suffering, struggling, pain and DEATH, WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION/CONSENT, is NOT the solution/remedy/cure for your personal problems/issues such as: boredom, poverty, selfishness, loneliness, low IQ, **megalomania, shallowness, emptiness, vanity, hero complex syndrome, narcissism, virtue signalling syndrome. Please find a more useful/constructive hobby. 😉
**obsession with the exercise of power
*’kids’, aka future: pharmaceutical/medical industrial complex’ life long clients/victims, prison/military industrial complex clients/victims, fascists, satanists, totalitarian single digit IQ nobodies, communists, marxists, bolsheviks, leninists, SJWs, BLMs, socialists, mercenaries, religious freaks wearing funny clothing and head coverings spreading ‘peace’, welfare/benefit queens/kings, cartel members, starving people, broke(n)/bankrupt people from all points of views, hitmen/hitwomen, murderers, witches/warlocks who curse others, murderers wearing uniforms-badges/white coats-stethoscopes/suits-ties, abused people, abusers/users, drunkards, drug addicts, drug dealers, alcoholics, homeless, gang/mafia members, suicide victims, bullies, bullied people, torturers, tortured people, mentally and physically handicapped people, orphans, victims of organ harvesting and human trafficking, single mother victims, dead soldiers, racist group gang members, prostitutes, residents of hell, debt slaves, suckers to participate in the rat race that enables the world wide criminal syndicate(royalty, bankers etc.) to stay rich and become richer.
Approximately 27 trillion pounds of chemicals were produced in or imported into the United States(same or more to the other continents/parts of the world) per year in the early part of this decade, which is the equivalent of approximately 74 billion pounds/day (nearly 250 pounds per person). This number does not include fuels, pesticides, pharmaceuticals, or food products. That yummy 'stuff ‘gets into our bodies. Flame retardants in gymnasts, 180+ toxic chemicals in the blood of newborns, the leaching of phlates from plastic wrap into our food, the list goes on and on.
So please keep marrying and reproducing. Keep the cycle of misery, suffering and death going, this only helps us the rich/wealthy stay rich and get richer?wealthier. ;)
With love,
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Here is a cool reason/true story on why you should pump out more units(kid): ‘’It is a sad day as I watch grown people shove their parents into the grave to take their spoils. have watched my cousins kill their parents early by running up their credit, mortgaging their homes, and then having the morphine pumped in them and even one of my cousins even told his mom that she would die today, as he gave permission for the morphine.
She had a trake down her throat,s o she could not defend herself, but when he told her that… she looked at me and mom as her eyes got big as silver dollars with fear… my other cousin shoved her mom in a back bedroom for two years and gambled her 2400 a month away. My aunt finally got hold of a phone and called 911… and finally got out of her daughters hell… but then the hospess dropped her and broke her legs and hip and they finished her off with morphine.
My other aunt died with liver cancer as her kids fought over her funeral money, as they told her to go on and die.
My uncle had a son on crack that pushed him on in the box and these siblings all fell in one years time. Now my siblings are trying to push my mom in the box to get at her money and the sad thing is my mom knows it. I have tried to keep my two sisters off of my mom but they are constantly calling her and demanding that my mom buys them a house so they can leave their husbands. And my hands are tied. My ex and children robbed me a few years back so i know what’s going on but my hands are tied. This is a sad day that we have come to. My mom would fair out better if she had less money but the vultures are swarming. This is so sad and my sisters were raised better.‘’
There are a million statistics showing how single mothers are a scourge on humanity. Don’t perpetuate this cycle of single mothers raising single mothers and boys who end up in prison. Think of the misery you will be causing to an innocent child. While the potential is there to make barren couples happy, there is also the likelihood that you will be enabling a single mother to ruin another child. YOUR child.
As long as the government is fighting unwinnable wars, they will need bodies. Paying single moms to spit out children (through government welfare) while discouraging abortions is going to create more single mothers in poverty; Uncle Sam is hoping the men end up in the military while the women become knocked-up single moms just like their mothers did. If the men turn out to be useless, they can always be part of the industrial prison complex instead.
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and [hunters] of unorthodoxy.” ― Orwell, 1984
“The aim of totalitarian education has never been to install convictions but to destroy the capacity to form any. One of the greatest advantages of the totalitarian elites of the twenties and thirties was to turn any statement of fact into question of motive.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exists”…
~ Hannah Arendt - The Origins of Totalitarianism (1951)
‘The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is the truth.’ - Ezra Pound
The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim. An individual in a crowd is a grain of sand amid other grains of sand, which the wind stirs up at will. - Gustave Le Bon
Dis-eases are nothing more than the body's inability to excrete morbid matter that we accumulate from what we eat/drink/inhale/wear/rub on ourselves. In other words: CHRONIC CONSTIPATION IN THE BOWELS AND ORGANS. This is known since adam and eve, since about 6000 years. Empty the body of morbid matter and you recover from ANY so called 'dis-eases' 100% of the time.
The constantly changing, self contradictory narrative(s) is(are) a psychological weapon they are deploying, designed to disengage and depress the populace, so they give up thinking and just accept whatever they are told.
They will fake the alien invasion. But this alien invasion will not be hostile, they will present this as the second coming of Jesus. And they'll have a fake Jesus, pseudo-Christ (what many, due to the loose translation of the original Greek, call anti-christ; in the original text the word is pseudo-christ, fake christ) and fake Jesus is gonna tell you to be good and take your vaccines and all that.
They'll be able to project holographic images everywhere of jesus and alien angels and all that, and 5g network will help them out I think.
They've been building up the ancient aliens narrative and all that for a long time. It's all bullshit.
The churches will recognize his authority and sell out the humankind apart from a few preachers here and there. And that's it.
‘There are people that believe government, trillionaires, billionaires, big pharma, chemical giants are benevolent entities with only the sheeple’s best interest at heart. Then there’s the rest of us “spoiler alerters.’
"There will come a time when people will go insane, and when they see someone who isn't insane, they will attack him and say, 'You are insane; you aren't like us." - Saint Anthony the Great
Lol facts!
My family has tried to get me committed several times throughout the years because of drugs and being a dumbass. Its basically impossible until the patient/addict whatever has decided that it's time. Sadly.
He cut them because the liberals demanded it….like they want to do with out jails.
@@incorectulpolitic Your not supposed to say them things lol.
Absolutely
I’m an Uber driver in the greater Los Angeles area. Last couple of weeks I’ve picked up social workers from LA city and/or LA county. The horror stories they tell me about the homeless situation are appalling.
1st. We did agree that there are people that need care, most of those are either Vets or people with serious mental health problems. However, they also pointed out that a majority of homeless are just plain old Bums, don’t wanna work, don’t wanna rent, don’t wanna pay taxes.
2nd. They told me that there are a lot of single mothers that live in shelters, and that some get raped and have their children taken away by social services.
3rd. They offer to rehabilitate the Bums, but they decline time and time again.
4th. And I think the worst of all, anyone can claim homelessness. They literally walk into a social services office, claim they’re homeless and they get to start the paper work right away.
Most get and EBT card, we call it Calfresh here. That’s at least $200-$250 a month for food. The. They get free meds if they’re HIV +, that’s btw $2000-$3000 worth of meds alone, then they get Cali Med insurance called Medical for free. Then they get $400-$600 on disabilities and unemployment. All while doing whatever the fuck they want. I’m for helping the homeless. But these people and the ones enabling it are making it worse.
All this has been said to me by these 2 social workers, if you are a Social Service provider in SoCal please feel free to comment.
Thank you.
Also to notes, some people are down on their luck, and yeah along with Vets and mentally ill, we should help these people too.
I worked at a Homeless Shelter in FT.WORTH.TX in the 90s...There's many that like living out of Society's Customs. They will Not go into a shelter or take housing. It's a Mental health problem.
Michael was correct. The woods are inundated. There has been homeless in many of them for decades, but never seen the numbers I'm seeing now, which in my opinion illustrated the systems failure far more than the visual of fewer homeless near downtown. No different than kicking the clothes under the bed before inviting someone in you room. The problem isn't solved. 😥
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I rode horses in the mountains around LA. Was afraid we'd cross a mountain lion but never thought about the homeless hiding up there. In Hawaii the police arrest any homeless they find camping even in the remote areas and destroy what little they own. But homelessness there is still a rampant problem.
well it's better than alternative.. I don't want to see homeless person taking a dump on a street or doing heroin while there are school kids around. It's better them to live in a forest like an animal if they act like one on the street
@@billiebobthorntown6679 of course it is.Smashing camps taking property and arresting houseless people only exacerbates the problem.
I had to stop when he mentioned social work. I have about 17 years in the field, which is completely broken. DCF is broken, have literally seen them investigate the wrong parent and harass grandparents. People are surprised when a kid pops off and does something really bad and we then find out there were multiple red flags. This is almost every single case and hardly anyone talks about it. It is a retroactive system and basically you have to do something awful before help is given. Ok, sorry, rant over.
No mention of DCF and not every social worker is employed by DCF or works with that population.
@photag216 Just give people housing. That's something government can do. And stop criminalizing making and selling drugs and people who take drugs. Government never had any right to do that.
@@numbersix8919 "Just give people housing."
No. Ive seen that where I am, all the government did was waste my tax dollars on it, the people trash the houses, and contaminated my neighborhood with trash people.
If people lack the capacity to contribute something in return for the housing, they need to be in structured care (not prison). This is particularly so for mentally ill and disturbed people.
@@numbersix8919 No limits on drugs? Even the hard drugs?
@@Odyss2023 Are you referring to alcohol? The only drug that is scientifically proven to cause violence? Is actually an inorganic poison that destroys liver and brain? That causes severe birth defects just from a few binges? Alcohol, the only drug guaranteed to kill the addict if they go cold turkey?
Yes, we must decriminalize even the hardest drugs, all the way up to alcohol.
The Core Root of the Homeless Problem Comes Down to the Mentality of Everyone in the Environment. For There to Be “CHANGE”, the Mentality of Everyone in the Environment Must “CHANGE”.
In San Diego, the Chargers stadium was scheduled for demolition before SDSU Aztecs purchased it for football. I would have rounded up the homeless and shoved a lot of them in there. Provided medical tents and staff, running water for showers and restroom, and food. Lock them away from drug dealers and the streets in general. Force them to at least seek work after cleaning up. The problem is they mostly look at it as free stuff and will move along once they are needing a crack or fentanyl fix. They would never come back. In downtown, most homeless live directly next to Father Joe's Villages, Salvation Army, and Goodwill. In fact I was a driver for Goodwill and told one guy they would hire him. He was at an intersection holding a sign. $15/hr starting. Medical and leave. Their entire purpose is to help those who have hard times finding work. Goodwill offers free therapy, counseling, etc. They pay your uniforms and anything else you need for the job. The dude flipped me off and started yelling all sorts of obsenities. This one lady outside of Ralphs asked me for money. I didn't have any. Told her I'd get her something to eat. Started yelling at me incoherently, then as I turned around to walk away, I saw a pizza crust fly right next to my head. Politicians throw money at it like the crust. These people don't want to be fixed. The homeless task force in San Diego (lots of taxpayer funding) simply make them leave one area, just to find them in another. Call me cold hearted, I don't care, but I simply just don't care about them anymore. There's nothing I can do. There's nothing anyone else can do. There's nothing politicians can do. Until they're forced to attend mental and drug rehab programs, I'm not interested. Politicians know they don't vote anyway, so why would they truly care?
My man really said "learn to code" but with drug addicts and the mentally unstable instead of coal miners
"Let them eat C++, errr, I mean cake". These people are disabled, 90% of them are gone as far as working jobs and getting a 401k. That's the reality. Its not realistic that 100% of human adults are going to work full time jobs for 45 years. We either need to accept this as a society or...I guess just keep plugging our ears is an option too.
You called it.
It blew my mind.
This guy, he doesn't even know where to start,
And hasn't fixed anything yet...
But already, he's daydreaming about all the success he's had.
Meanwhile, the streets are still overrun and his head is still in the clouds.
He doesn't even have a notion that:
Some of these people like the street life.
Some of these people like their addictions.
Some of those with psych conditions have no interest in being med compliant.
Listen to Mark Laita.
Thousands of interviews later,
All of those people who he interviewed were offered help to get clean + make a new life.
Only a handful were interested in the help.
I think Laita has said that only a couple who were open to help/rehab actually completed rehab, got clean, stayed clean
2 out of maybe 3,000?
Great. We're halfway home now, fellas. Let's put up our feet and have a cocktail. 🤦🤦🤦
@@jeannieneuser5316 you could pick apart pretty much everything this guy's says as wishful thinking or something that's downright failed in the past. I don't listen to a lot of Rogan but it's always funny when he can tell that his guest is just speaking nonsense. The way he kept telling the guy to start with LA county and the guy kept trying to steer away from that thought 😂
This guy seems detached and took this job to make himself feel good about his college degree or something. His heart isn't 100% percent into this. I say, 50% heart 50%t ego.... It can be very hard working with homeless people overall and this guy seems like he's at the end of his wits. Someone else should be put in charge or should join him in pulbic speaking environments.💯
do we really need 100k more python developers? this tech industry is mostly speculative nonsense
Big problem with these schemes is that it makes your average working class people who live right pay their bills feel like they are being crapped on by government . They work hard just to get by only to see people who do nothing get better apartments & living standards than the working class can afford themselves.
Redistribute the wealth. Eat the rich. No one needs a billion dollars.
Suicide booths
@@finished6267 ...and then everyone goes out and spends that money and it finds it way right back in to the same billionaire's pockets! Then we steal it again and the cycle repeats until Bezos, Gates, Musk and co. decide F-this and stop working for nothing, then nobody can buy anything they need because nobody is incentivised to produce it. Genius!
As if that crackhead is anywhere near true happiness in his mind. Anyone comparing their life with others on such a materialistic basis has their own issues to worry about.
@@finished6267 Well, now give me your stuff. It's cool and legal because me and the other guy voted on it.
I’ve been homeless several times, even in a random country that I didn’t speak the language. Now we have several homes and buildings.
That is a very interesting platform! I hope he has success ... giant steps might be a little 'too rose-colored glasses', but if it works, awesome! I'd like to learn more about how this plays out in future interviews. Imagine that it DOES work, and now there is a model to address the homelessness and reverse it! Incredible!
I believe it’s a lot more. My brother was homeless, even though we never put him out. They find it much easier to live in a tent and continue to use drugs than being inside and subjected to home rules.
Bingo.
Adult babies.
Right, if you listened earlier in the clip they both acknowledge that.
Blaming drugs is low IQ logic. There are plenty of people who don't use drugs, and plenty more who have recovered from drug experiences. There are also very famous and wealthy people who use drugs. If you do the math you can see drugs ain't the problem. But yall are dummies. As soon as someone sees a poor person, "he's poor because of drugs."
It is much easier. You ever tried to get off of meth or heroin?
I was going to give some money to a homeless bloke yesterday, but when I saw a sign around his neck that read "One day, this could be you", I put the change back in my pocket. You can never be too sure nowadays.
Lmao
That’s cold
More important to promote responsibility kek
Beta approach, sigmas grindset:
Ask him his life story.
Then buy the sign with the change.
Then go downstream in the foot traffic.
Add "ask me how $5" to the sign.
Now your making the money panhandling people before they get to him.
Charge another $20 or more to be video'd.
Tell his life story as yours to the people now giving YOU the money to hear the warning it could be them one day after they pay you to hear your story.
Pfft keep the change.
so good
I remember from a young age being very disturbed and concerned seeing that there were people who had to live on the street, thinking to myself, "Why is this happening? What can be done to help them? I want to help but I don't know what to do." A few decades later and I still feel the same. Very sad. I hope us humans can find a way through this. Hoping Michael's plans are put into action.
I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor in Idaho and have worked for several community substance abuse agencies and the State. Funding in various programs is allocated strictly in favor of VPs CEOs, and CFOs. For example, when I worked at my previous employer they charged clients / patients close to $40,000 a month for inpatient drug recovery care. My yearly salary was $55,000 a year. The margins for treatment are huge, however; providers are pawns and nothing more. Even individual counseling sessions I was making $30 an hour, but the clients were being charged $150 for that same session.
The problem is SO complex and the major problem that I have encountered is that a lot of these folks simply dont want to get better.
They’re human too. The “better” option from your perspective may not be the same as theirs but we all want “better”. An individual in crisis sees the choices differently.
@@gemmayoutube no i get it, I’ve definitely been there before. Homeless and drug addicted. Now I work in that field and no matter how much assistance is offered, many are simply unwilling to change. Unfortunate
@@will1319 You have to realise that these homeless people are not like you or me, many of them have mental illness and drug issues. That needs to be addressed first.
@@fredericksinclair They are like me. Exactly like me as a matter of fact. I was homeless and drug addicted with mental health issues. Now I work with the homeless as my full time occupation. I was sharing my experience.
@@will1319 My point is that someone will try to apply rational logic based on their own situation instead of putting themselves into the other persons shoes.
I was working as a landscaper for my second job.My boss would occasionally ask young guys looking for handouts at stoplights if they wanted a days work for cash,12 bucks an hr.under the table,and lunch.Nobody ever took him up on the offer
Scum are lazy!
People are taught these societal problems only on the surface level. Homeless = can’t find a job. It’s always been more. With Section 8 and food stamps you have to want to be homeless, it’s the only way.
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“Elon Musk meets Post Malone”
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I am aspiring homeless, taking steps to live on streets. I am sober and i love work but i dont need all the extra shit that comes with being a drone. Im interesting in finding meaning in my life, and being self sufficient vs cutting ppls grass. The hardest part for me about the work force is how complicated they make a simple task, and feel the need to train and supervise such a task. I played that game since I could set up my own work. Ironically cutting grass and shoveling driveways. Things things things, lots of rules and most of them are to benefit the upperclass. Its all about perspective. You’ll never go hungry if you know what plants feed you, how to gut and clean and animal, what trash cans to look in for food-and how to tell if that food is bad or not.
Am I saying that the addicts on the street went soul searching and found fentanyl as there destiny… no. But homeless isnt the problem. Drugs arent the problem. Its not even the person all the time. A LOT of these people had upbringings we have nightmares about ten fold. Its society that fucked these people up. All we need to do is spread unconditional love and compassion towards these people, let them no that SOMEONE cares about them and wants them to do better. Im making it sound easy hippy dippy but in essence this is the answer.
Sad
2:05 - Thanks for calling this out, I've been noticing this for a while. There's this weird sort of semi romanticization of homeless encampments as some kind of Depression Era Hooverville of honest hardworking folk who are just temporarily down on their luck until the economy improves.
People view the homeless as less than animals
, it’s sad.
My uncle was in and out of California prisons over half my life due to drug addiction and the things that often come from that. Once he would sober up he would work hard, learn skills, and get out early on good behavior. Unfortunately he would revert and end up back in a penitentiary. He has always been a good hearted fella, but he had demons he had to fight. He eventually found a good gal who set him straight and he has been working hard as a plumber ever since. He had to work shit jobs (literally) for a while, but now he owns his own business and does real well for himself. He has repaired the relationship with his son who he barely knew and is now a great example of what can be.
that's a happy ending, I'm happy for your uncle. a good woman is one who can help a man become their best version possible.
A lot of people refuse to start at the bottom.
Why is a drug that kills less than tobacco illegal?
Sounds like you just spoiled the movie “Baby Boy” for those who haven’t watched it yet 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
That's awesome man! I know the struggle he's gone through and you as well I'm sure. God bless man
My friend worked at shelters. According to him and his other friend who works at shelter.
1. Shelters are very nicely made.
2. Homeless people don't want to stay because in shelters there are policies of no drinking, no drugs, and no alcohol.
3. Homeless people come eat meal, take a shower, get clothing and leaves.
4. Many of the workers aren't nice but you can't blame them because homeless people cause lot of problems where workers become not so nice. And if you are nice, it is hard to control them. At first he didn't understand why workers weren't so nice but after him working there few days he also started to become not so nice.
Shelters are not the solution. They are one minor tool that can be used but not the solution, at all.
The greatest way to combat homelessness is to create a flourishing economy with as many jobs as possible. Trump had the right idea. We must deport illegal immigrants and prevent them from entering and create new jobs.
There will always be some homelessness. There are those with mental health issues and/or drug and alcohol addiction which only intensified when one is homeless. There will always be those who are incapable of independence. However, when the economy is flourishing the dependent people are usually taken care of by family. When people who are independent lose their jobs and are barely surviving they cannot take care of those family members. It has a cascading affect.
The very best way to mitigate homelessness is a flourishing economy and society. When the majority are doing well then society is capable of taking care of the few who cannot take care of themselves. Then the churches can do their jobs to take care of the poor. People donate so there can be successful rehabilitation programs for drug and alcohol abuse. Drug and alcohol abuse is far less when people are doing well.
More government is never the solution. Less taxes , less government, less regulation equals a more flourishing people. A flourishing people are capable of creating a society with less homeless suffering people. It’s quite simple. Forced socialism never works, it equates to theft and bureaucracy.When people are flourishing and free they usually give back. Voluntary sharing of resources for the betterment of all is the only way. Socialism sounds great but it never works. It works in theory but not reality. It would work if there was a perfect king and perfect government. However, with imperfect humans there will always be corruption, which means socialism will always fail.
Yeah I can see how they would take advantage of a workers niceness, easy to get taken advantage of so you gotta be stern and zero tolerance I imagine.
@@jayjayfreedomordeath5800 you got the right idea, have you read the book by Hoppe “democracy the god that failed” ? It talks about how government intervention and leaning more towards a welfare state degrades the general population. It’s an amazing read.
VGKStone,
I have not read it. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks
I can absolutely attest to this. I worked at a career center next to a large homeless shelter built by Norwegian cruise lines in downtown Miami. They just sent us people, who aren't ready to work. No employer wants to take the responsibility of rehabbing a person whose been on the streets for years.
Great true portrayal of what’s really going on!
He hit the nail on the head with how a lot of people become homeless. A lot people mess up their living situation by abusing drugs and stealing from the people they live with. This snowballs quickly into not having a place to stay and using drugs.
some but not all
@Beelzebub literally had my brother kicked out because of that. Had another family next to me kick their uncle out because of it. If you were from any form of struggle were drugs were an issue with a relative, you would probably know this is pretty common. But you’re clueless….
My older brother was kicked out because he was stealing shit to sell for drugs too.
@@johnnymarine554 Most, apparently. Along with the mentally ill, who should be institutionalized.
@jcorb actually it is a fact. Take your pseudo intellectual self back to community college or the coffee shop where everyone agrees with you.
Asking Joe Rogan if he remembers the details of a John Steinbeck novel 😂
I saw that movie. That was real? I thought it was bullshit.
Is "Oakie" really that obscure????? C'mon.
@@superintelligentapefromthe121 *Okie
People take what Joe says religiously likes he’s an expert of everything but had no idea of what Okies are or the Grapes of Wrath. Like basic US history. Shiiit but peeps like his testbro conversations though.
Probably not, though he does appear to try to research his topics.
Another big problem now is what I call the "motorhomeless" in the LA area; streets lined with ancient motorhomes and travel trailers with obvious drug addicts and dealers going in and out of them at all hours.
In most of the country a person making minimum wage at a full time job can't afford an apartment. I remember when that wasn't the case. That's the root of the problem that must be solved.
None of these get to the root problem: family breakdown. This is the root which has to be fixed so people don't fall into drugs and homelesness
Definitely agree. I would say that establishing healthy social connections and finding them something to do with their time would help.
Rehab is not enough if they are going to have endless free time to feel tempted.
Man goes from “The Governor has too much power” to “When I’m in power, I’m going to use all of it”. Sketchy
Typical lefty trying to be a good guy, yet more government is still the answer to everything.
Don't worry, you can trust him...he's wearing a button up shirt that's not buttoned all the way up which is the universal signal for "I am worthy of your trust"...
government has too much power but we need to increase funding to police, redevelop skidrow, increase funding for psychiatry, and increase funding for rehab...it's all the same shit, more spending leading us down this same row (the increase in homeless is directly related to gov spending, as gov't printing money = stealing wealth from people).
bitcoin is the long term solution, not anything this guy is proposing.
@@nGUNNARp Explain how bitcoin is beneficial to the average homeless person. You got to be trolling lmao
Very sketchy
I am Homeless in San Diego, CA and I am a Homeless Survival Advocate in San Diego County CA & I am the Founder-CEO of San Diego County Homeless Union chapter California Homeless Union
Don't forget to eliminate the drug suppliers.
it's so insane i'm 2 paychecks away from a tent. i've worked the same job for decades, worked hard... 2 checks. all it takes to take everything from me. then how would i react? that's insanity
How's that 10% inflation treating you?
fuck its scary
It’s ok. You can always just start a podcast.
Im one paycheck away ......lol
You're two paychecks away from being labeled a druggie,
I visited Los Angeles as a poor college student in the late 1980's when the No Camping rule was enforced. This included sleeping in your car and more than once I was awoken to a night stick knocking on my car window at 3am and moved on.
Exactly. You just can give free free, not enforce laws, and hand out needles, free housing.
Yeah and the cops can't understand why we the people hate them. They are the standing army our founding fathers warned us of.
Good.. and as it should have been
I was homeless for 6 months when I was 18. I wanted to get away from my step father. I stayed in an abandoned house, and eventually got a job and a home etc. I was never a drug addict or alcoholic or anything like that, just didn’t know where to go. My 2 older sisters however were alcoholics and were homeless for 20+ years. One was in the National Guard and just got a job with Cal Trans, and the other was married with 3 sons and a home. But they CHOSE to give it all up for Alcohol and the company that their misery loved. They now have homes again and receive SSI and sitting back and talking we can clearly see that panhandlers and homeless people will never stop unless they want to, and why should they stop when we keep handing them shit. One church would come by and bring food, another would come and bring clothes, then another would bring new tents etc. The panhandlers sometimes look at what they do as a job. Stop giving them handouts! It’s true that they have reached depths of deprivation we don’t know. It’s true. How does someone regain their dignity?
My take, and I don't live in CA, is that the cost of housing is so expensive that many people can't afford a house or rent even if they have a job. Regulations are so strict there that it's difficult to build more housing and I've read that it's not profitable for builders to build new homes that sell for less than $1 million.
I’m not convinced this guy knows how to solve this. He isn’t communicating a way.
The ACLU fought against involuntary psychiatric hospitalization for the homeless decades ago. If we somehow undid that, or tried criminalizing homeless to get around it and built the mental hospitals again, that would solve it. Only way to end it.
The truth of the matter is we KNOW how to fix the problem. The govt (us the taxpayers) pays for their apartments. That's it. We as a society don't want to do this so...the problem will continue. I worked at a housing authority doing a finance internship. The truth is..these people can't hold down full time jobs, they just can't. A HUGE chunk of them have physical disabilities, especially injured vets, another huge chunk had crushing mental health issues. The drugs are a just a coping mechanism they use. The root of the problem is disability.
@@tothemoon4776 I don’t believe you.
He has a plan to house the homeless but he says he wants them in therapy or threatened with probation. If I was still an active user I'd choose to stay on the street. Probation is ultimately threatened with the barrel of a pistol
@@antielfimationleague231 agreed, and you can’t help someone that doesn’t want help.
I worked at an inner city library for ten years. it was almost a defacto homeless day room. More than 1/2 of them had obvious substance abuse and or mental illness. I got a few into housing and they got tossed out for psychotic or antisocial behavior. I don't think affordable housing is the main reason for homelessness. some mentally ill people NEED to be hospitalized AGAINST THEIR WILL or at a minimum be forced to take their medication. Sounds harsh but I really think it would make a huge difference
Don't tell that to the "Adam Ruins Everything" guy. He thinks they just need places to live. Of course, he's also an idiot in general.
Yeah, I'm always confused as to why people think tiny homes will fix homelessness. The majority need mental or substance abuse help.
@rollerboogie
Exactly. What are they even going to do with housing if they get it without being forced into mental health treatment & rehab? Without some kind of comprehensive & overall approach they'll just be mentally ill drug addicts with a free roof over their head living in a place they're most likely not looking after in the least.
Having been in San Diego’s downtown library, it seems to essentially be a homeless shelter.
I agree, this guy is just like the rest thinking putting them in homes will help. Then trying to give them options. It's obvious that there choice is to stay where they are.
21 years in parks for a major city close to LA. From my experience, these people don’t want a job or responsibilities. I know there’s underlying issues like mental illness, and addictions. Not once, did I ever hear one homeless person tell me they’re trying to get a job or get off the street. I don’t wanna sound heartless. I was nice to many of them, and made friends and helped them when I could. But after 21 years of that, it was really hard to feel sorry for them!
How can you get a job if yiu dont have a shower. Tbis is not that complicated my dude. Everybidy in LA is borderline homeless. Its the corruption
@@dumisanisimunyu sounds like a lame excuse. So if your homeless and can’t shower, that’s just life after this? People need to stop making excuses for this almost, unfixable problem. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Not to mention, I’ve made friends with many homeless people. They’re not all smelly and dirty. In fact, some of them you wouldn’t even know they’re homeless. I have first had knowledge of these people, obviously, you don’t!!
Can we talk about all the other states that sent their homeless to Los Angeles ?
Maybe some came from outside of CA, but California did this to themselves and this problem is bigger in CA than any other state for a reason.
I was a wild land firefighter during the summer months for a company called Skookam in Eugene, Oregon when I was in college. I’ve battled wild fires in Tennessee, Montana, Oregon, Arizona, California, and Utah. It’s hard work but you also need to to have an understanding of the natural risk factors and be educated on everything from safety to proper usage of all equipment. 12-16 hour days, 14 days at a time, physically demanding. It’s no joke and you need to take a class/pass a test, and meet the physical requirements. It would be a disaster to send recovering drug addicts to do this job for many reasons but most importantly just because they are physically able doesn’t make it a good idea and would put some hard working firefighters in more danger than that are already in.
I started working at Skookum in the early 1990’s & through the 2000’s. Curious which years/seasons you worked there and who’s crew you were on?
Skookum Reforestation hived off Hoedads Tree Planting Co-Op way back in the late 1970’s early 1980’s. I know and have worked with many of those early employees and owner/ members.
The majority of active addicts work for the government or city or state or police or fire. Honestly how many firefighters drink on a regular basis.
@@victorcampbell7956 Try to pay attention! We’re discussing addicts who can no longer function in society and are destroying our cities. The functioning alcoholics will retire with a pension and hopefully not be a burden on society.
Yeah, I had to laugh when he suggested the firefighter idea. Better they do litter and graffiti removal.
Im reading all this bullshit coming from the peanut gallery. All any of you see is the surface and you judge off the surface. I know alot of guys who have recovered and work regular jobs after rehab or prison. I even know guys who are firefighters that recovered from addiction. So what's your point. All I see from your stance is allowing the problem to continue because you feel they can't overcome
This is interesting. So, I live in a Dutch town called Heerlen that rather succesfully battled an enormous heroin-epidemic that lasted form the 70's to early 00's:
Since our Mining-Industry closed pretty abruptly in the 70's, a large part of the population lost their jobs - despite government trying to allocate different employment. This situation very much escalated when during the same period the Nixon administration initiated a program called 'Golden Flow', which introduced wide-scale drug testing for GI's upon their return from Vietnam. (as described in the book 'AntiCity' by M. Hermans) According to studies of St. Louis University, over 45% of returning GI's had used when abroad, and about 20% had been/were addicted. While some were able to detox themselves, others found this much harder. GI's returning had the option of refusing the tests, and many did this while also signing for another period in the army. They got to spend this time in bases like the local NATO-base that was founded in 1967 right next to our town. Sadly, this situation also provided them the opportunity of creating a straight import of heroin from South-East Asia to our region.
Enter: the perfect storm. These relatively young GI's mingled with the local youth in the growing scene of disco's and bar's, which resulted in widespread use of the drugs in question. And as demand grew, our city was overrun by a heroin epidemic and things that come with that: criminality, prostitution, etc. Many attempts were made to solve this matter, but the location only became more popular as German tourists had also become regulars. At one point our local city council decided to close all locations where deals took place, but this only made matters worse, as all business was now going on in plain sight out on the street. The economic damage for the city was enormous, with research revealing that about 42% of 'users' came by their finances through illegal means, many of them engaging in public prostitution.
During the 90's our local government already made attempts to curb these goings on, but the city - at one point - was effectively owned by the high amount of homeless and addicted that roamed the streets; safety was at an all-time low. And in the early 00's they finally said: we need to take care of this on a grand scale, and developed what they called 'operation heartbeat'. This was a close coöperation between a lot of parties that could contribute to a structural approach to this problem (think: local government, police, health care, but also the salvation army & many others). It's first fase was focused on repression, with a much more confrontational approach by increased numbers of police. This sent a clear signal to the local population that finally the tide might be turning, and consequently more organizations were motivated to join the effort. Second, a 'scouting team' (if you will) was instigated to monitor exactly how much people were around town during nights and what their cases were. This also led to introducing a pass-system, by which only local cases could get proper treatment and healthcare. And with the knowledge gained, it became clear that the Salvation Army could play an important role in providing food and shelter to (only) these cases.
Summer 2003 the police intervened on a large scale, and by that time the whole city center was monitored, which also increased feelings of safety among inhabitants. But the most important part of this approach was realized in 2004, which they called 'Domushouses'. These were day- and night-shelters where people (again: only local and via a pass-system) could take care of themselves, and were indeed also able to 'use' under supervision. For the first time that year, nobody died on the streets. Cases could be taken care of on an individual basis, and other initiatives were started to give people that were doing well a renewed sense of purpose: working together in teams. After this the project was developed further, with some of the organizations still active today. Now it is perhaps most important to mention that all the specialized governmental- and healthcare-organizations working in tandem were very precise in choosing locations where shelters were set-up. They are branded 'shelters', but are actual brick-and-mortar locations in - for example - former empty buildings. These were spread predominantly outside of the city center, as to massively decrease the temptation of the target groups to 'lurk around' in the city itself.
Anyways, much more can be said, and of course it is still a work-in-progress to this day. But this is one of the rare things our city got absolutely right - through sheer effort, trial and error.
If interested, here is the formal report for the whole trajectory (it's in Dutch, but you can easily throw it into google-translate). Also read 'The Anticity' by M. Hermans, as it explains the full context of what created this terrible situation in the first place. And maybe it might be of help to SF and other cities in the US.
Report: www.heerlen.nl/gemeente-heerlen/evaluatierapport-operatie-hartslag-(pdf).pdf
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Wow! I'm amazed and so interested to read further. I'm trying not to be so cynical and pinpoint where we, as Americans, would fail in this plan. (Specifically our lack of faith in law enforcement.) It's all about money here. The recovery industry is private, so it's in their best interest to keep people addicted, so they keep going back to rehab, or jail/prison which is also a private industry.
@Bronwyn Gavin Totally understand. I would never dare and propose this as a cut-n-paste solution, as it involved a lot of trial-and-error by large organisations, businesses and local government. Yet I thought it would be nice to be able to see a concrete example where an effective approach was indeed found.
That being said, your remark concerning 'money' is probably very much on-point, for since 2006 The Netherlands has introduced a universal healthcare system. It’s managed by the government and supplemented by private insurers. Anyone living or working in the Netherlands must obtain basic level health insurance (with or without additional coverage) from a Dutch provider. Under 18s are automatically covered by their parent’s insurance, and health care allowances are in place for the lowest earners, to allow them to access mandatory insurance. This ensures everyone can get help if needed, but competition between providers is also not out of the question.
The law-enforcement part I need to think about for a second.
@@larsickenroth7169 I'm curious to know what happened to those who didn't "pass". Were they deported to their country of origin or incarcerated? I'm also curious if your law enforcement carry firearms. I'm just trying to think of how an idea like this could work in the states. Are there still places for people to use safely? When I have the time, I want to read the info that you mentioned. I'm very surprised that America hasn't adopted a universal Healthcare system, not in the way The Netherlands has. Thank you for the dialogue! You seem very intelligent with great insight!
Wow what a great comment. I wish something like that is in the works here in Los Angeles some day. People and cities are worth preserving and we have more than enough resources to do it.
Tldr
You can't fix the problem unless the people want to be helped
Something that I rarely see talked about when it comes to homeless is: The people who WANT to live this lifestyle. It's not an insignificant number.
What do you do when they don't want to work toward the betterment of themselves and society.
I was a case manager and still am in social services as a manager in California. This guest is correct, my opinions may be a bit harsh. I cant tell you how many people we have helped find housing, but it was rejected, because it wasn’t in their “ stomping grounds” and they would rather be homeless and use the ER as a place for shelter and food. Im sorry, but its really time to crack down and I like the suggestions this guest had.
I'm on HUDVASH. My caseworker can't fill his openings because drugs, sex offenses ect. They get someone into a room, they get all their friends and have a rager and get kicked out of program. The majority dont want to work, everything is free, soon want to give free drugs too? Re open mental health, quit feeding drug addicts, they will either get it together, or expire. It will be ugly for awhile, but.....
@@briansharp4388 exactly that's what I think, it should be a rehabilitation center, super comfortable and nice, but with strict rules. And after a while they should start working for the the center so they center can survive and let them live there, continue fixing their mental and depression problems, learn a skill, and when they are ready, let them go in market. This is the only way and the strict rules are the vital part of it. But I would say people who are depressed even they don't need force after they go there and see hope they can fix themselves and be very usefull actually. I usually talk to homeless, the majority of them are really good people, they were just so sensetive and they lost their jobs and then they become addicted to a drug! It's this cycle most of the time!
u shld be "sorry' but ur not. what u really meant is that u offered them a place a couple counties away from their "home base", where they'd be subject to unfamiliar laws, etc. i dare say most ppl, older folks esp, are fearful of the prospect of being forced to start ovr from scratch, disconnected from the meager supprt network they have, esp at their age. that's perfectly natural & doesn't mean they can't still use help. that's what they came for. not to be judged for having a normal reaction to the only "solution" u offered them. quit being lazy & try to address the real problem - which is that u can find them nothing better - instead of shifting the blame to THEM for the fact u can't do a better job, for whatever reason.
The extreme sides being taken here are either shills or poor saps that have been brainwashed by the psy op the shills have been conducting in the comments section of every hot button topic on TH-cam. It's a pretty simple job, just take one of two extreme sides under every controversial video that discusses certain topics that will play a part in major (dystopian) paradigm shifts that are surely in the world and incite emotional tension, easily accomplished with light name calling and intentionally bombastic and passive aggressive language. Essentially we are surrounded by SHIT STIRRERS anywhere you go on the internet, and it's very important to recognize that and not to pay any mind when someone is trying to bait you into some kind of superficial heated discussion that amounts to nonsense and makes fool out of us all.
@@4herstory sorry, but I did my 40, not my job. Dont want to sound cruel but it seems we are approaching critical mass and triage is a bitch, I wish it wasn't, I wish the world was a 70s Coca-Cola commercial, or a norman Rockwell Xmas painting. But it isn't and never has been
He says these things like no one has ever thought of this, having ideas is not the problem. It’s finding bodies, humans qualified and WILLING to do this work. Who pays those salaries, how do they afford the exorbitant home purchase and rental rates in CA??
Lwta start with the $30 Billion surplus that the previous administration stole from us and is just sitting there. Would love to see my money work for aomething.
Just raise the taxes again! 😅
Exactly. Who’s going to fund this? My taxes? YEAH RIGHT
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Finally it's here .
It's never been about the ideas... It's been about the crooks in power NOT executing the ideas or doing things that are counterproductive to the ideas.
What a shame what is happening to my homeland California! Born, raised and continues to live here...won't give up on California like others have I believe we will make California great again!
With you bro, I’m not leaving San Diego because people here need help. If it was all about just me and my family being comfortable I would def. be in Tennessee or something.
I have been down there and volunteered in the Tenderloin area. The homeless are catered to in a big way in SF.
It’s more than just addiction, there are plenty of functioning addicts, but most of these people are done, they’re tired, beat down & wore out. They don’t want to function. So ALL of it is really mental.
15 years ago I was walking through New Orleans with my best girl friend; we passed by a clearly homeless “drug culture” couple. The way she idolized and glamorized this couple was insane to me. I believe that is a real problem still in 2022. Street living, drug culture, community where they feel supported, validated and included in active drug addiction. These people do not WANT to assimilate into “normal” society, especially not to make “normal” people feel better.
Absolutely.
Sodom & Gomorrah 2.0, baby!
A disturbingly high number of women have the common sense of a gold-fish. They absolutely LOVE drama, chaos, and the excitement therein.
Woman is 12 years old for life. --- Garry Kasparov
New Orleans and Baton Rouge are becoming shitholes.
Epidemic of low self esteem
I Worked in rehab, the recovery rate for addicts even with followup and support is less than 10%. Most of these street people will always be unemployable and would normally be institutionalized.
@Krystal Paddock Facts matter, according the Minister of Health of the time, program I ran for seven years was the most successful in Ontario, Canada and the only one that was self supporting. We had a full treatment residential program, 6 month minimum, with physical and psychological rehabilitation, job re-entry training and a two year support and followup program. We had clients from the Canadian Military, Provincial and Federal Corrections, Community and Socual Services, Workman's Compensation and also a variety of local agencies and church groups. We did actual follow up with every client that could be traced five years after completing the program and the results were as I said, very discouraging. Long term recovery for addicts is very rare, my own brother in law hasn't had a drink in over 35 years, but still feels the need to go to AA meetings twice a week.
@Krystal Paddock Please name the organization you worked with that had a success rate higher than 10%. I won't hold my breath.
@@glennwatson3313 I'm a layman, but I think more than 10% of 'addicts' probably become functional again ACCIDENTALLY.
If a program is having 10% success I'd say it's obviously doing something very wrong with huge room to rethink and improve. . . .
Unless they provide drugs for the people they house they'll never keep them there.
@Krystal Paddock how many meth heads have you dealt with? It's a fact...most of them don't want help, don't want a job, and don't give a shit. That's the rehab's fault? I'm not saying that we can't help SOME people, but how are you going to get 200,000 people clean, sober, and employed?
I'm strongly in favor for all the people who suported all drugs legalization to pay the bill for this mess. Anyone? Joe?
In 2013 2 of my buddies and I got our first apartment: a 3 bedroom 2 bath homely cave with single-pane aluminum framed windows and baseboard heat, the carpet stank, but it was $850/ month with trash and water included. A decent version of that would’ve been 1,250/month.
Now those same apartments would run about $1,600 & $2,200 respectively. In less than 10 years the price of rent has gone up anywhere from 50-100%.
Absolutely outrageous!
This!!! I feel like rent should have a cap.
Yeah some people wouldn’t make as much money but they would still have a cash income. More people will be able to afford rent.
I feel like the biggest problem is people over charging on rent. Rent should have a cap.
The problem is not the price of houses the problem is the government that makes it illegal or impossible to build apartments.
@@FakeNvwz if someone owns a home, nobody should dictate what price they want to rent it for. If you don’t like it, buy your own home 😂
@@O32Cy dude but that’s greed. I see your point the house is mine I do what I want with it. That mentality is the problem. Society needs to be more generous. Money is just paper…
@@O32Cy like bro there are people making billions selling basic human needs water/food. To me that’s ridiculous, no one should be making fortunes selling basic needs. It proves how fucking greedy society is. Remember money is just Paper…
"a really good centralized system..." lol. That's the problem right there
It's their answer for everything. When it fails every time, they think it means they just need to double down.
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Elon Musk meets Post Malone
😆 I can’t believe what Elon says!👽
I mean it depends on the situation? How are libertarian individualistic principles gonna stop this issue at this point?
Have you seen the ridiculous amounts people that run these organizations get paid? These people aren't dumb, they aren't going to put themselves out of a job by fixing the homeless problem. They just do enough to make it look like they are doing something like most government employees.
What they mean by that is the "qualified" people working for/at the top of the centralized system are taken care of and have all of the authority. The rest just get fucked. It's the same shit just dressed up and labeled different. The answer is there is no answer because the people with over 95% of the money don't want to fix it. Bums are there to scare the working class slaves into showing up to them low paying jobs.