Why BO4 Zombies Failed
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Zombies was at its best when the story was nazis trying to make an undead army instead of a alien multiverse mess.
Krisjanis no
zombies was good when you just fixed windows and shot fucking zombies and hellhounds.
yes
@@yagmi6182 yez
True, now it's gotten retarded. Like, it tried too hard to become Cosmic Horror.
I completely forgot about BO4's existence until this was recommended to me
How is it that both of us are somehow in every damn comment section
What’s black ops 4
Same ahah
@@kronsYT I think that it is a group of people under the same name rather than 1 person, if you look at their comment history it shows that his channel doesn't comment nearly as much as it seems, so it must be a cult of like 1000 + people who decided to fu*k with some people's mind
did you change your name?
After 8 years, I still go back to bo3 zombies and always have a super fun time. That game is timeless.
wait its been 8 years now
7 years
I do the same and i just beat derisen drack
same bro i be playing till this day bo3 is just fun and tbh bo4 zombies was bad the only good map imo was 9. other then that the maps suck don't even get me started with blood of the dead
BO3 is so ridiculously easy compared to WaW, BO1, and BO2. Criminally overrated.
Vanguard makes this game look like a saint.
Yeah vanguard zombies is awful
Almost making me miss b04 zombies
*almost*
Vanguard shouldn’t even be called a game
I literally rebrought bo4 yesterday
@@rickyanphylthegamergodsedw1647 Ong it’s a disgrace to not only cod zombies but video games as a whole
@@sandplanet471 the cod franchise as a whole
Bo3 HUD was my favorite, there was literally nothing bad about it but they decided to change shit that didn’t need to
Black Ops 1 was my favorite, fit well with any map you played on, and the horror elements on it. Bo1 and Waw did a good job on making Zombies scary and gritty
@@Immortalshortie That is very true. A lot of the fear and horror went away as the series went on in fear of flashy colors. Even the integration of various film stars was cool, but at the same time it kinda takes you out of the game too.
@@BattleBladeWarrior WW2 zombies was actually good imo, just the colors didnt fit well
It needed a bit of a change, aesthetically. Bo4 did it horribly wrong
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4:38 “I would rather have 2 quality launch maps than 4 lower quality maps.”
Cold War: “1, take it or leave it”
@Pam Black it's garbage...
@Pam Black visually alright... but plays horribly.
@@matt.squarebody5427 If I’m being honest the map is ok, but I think the real reason Cold War zombies is really praised is because of the awesome game mechanics and the simplicity, but the map isn’t garbage, it’s alright and a good way to revive the zombies franchise
@@matt.squarebody5427 pleb
@@matt.squarebody5427 It plays decently and looks pretty good
The biggest atrocity bo4 zombies did with the chaos storyline was leaving it *unfinished.* Just when it was getting interesting. My crew and I did all the zombies Easter eggs and were dumbfounded to learn that chaos story ended with Ancient Evil. When you finish that map’s EE, you get a cliff hanger and that’s it. Chaos story ends and Treyarch abandons it for Cold War. Absolutely terrible
BO4 should’ve been just about chaos
What’s funny is that a lot of these issues he has are addressed in infinite warfare zombies, but everyone avoids it because of the game it’s attached to.
Infinite warfare top tier zombies experience
@@stevedotexe6418 Nah bo3>>>> infinite is underrated but not the best
@@stevedotexe6418 no, just no
IW Zombies is great. Totally recommend to anyone starving for more quality zombies who haven't played it yet.
has nothing to do with zombies
Treyarch: You took everything from me.
Activision: I don’t even know who you are.
BSJ IN YO HOUSE lmao
Activision snapped its fingers
@@beetlepimp4777
"We...Are...Treyarch!" *snap*
Zombies ends, Black Ops Reboot, 3 Studios working on said reboot, Activision pouring minimal amount of money
You will
Activison owns Treyarch
Man, I remember just going over to my friends house and hoping on WaW on ol nacht der untoten and eating pizza and just trying to get to the highest round you could for bragging rights. Good times, good times.
Caleb Savarese damn I miss that shit 😪
Same man I remember staying up all night with my friends at a sleepover and playing WaW zombies. Good times man
I did that stuff for every zombies mode until bo4, just goes to show how it ain't the same anymore...
I remember when getting to round 8 was a big deal 😔
Y'all gonna make me cry man
The most hilarious thing about the whole perk change was that they just had to increase the amount of perks you can have to give people more options. Like I could easily see how much more variety you could have if you had 5-6 perks instead of the classic 4. Crutch perks are a part of the zombies experience.
Developers were stupid on that choice.
@@mohammadn5591 I know doubletap isn’t really a necessary perk for zombies but god it really did feel insulting it wasn’t added it was incredibly fun to use in the past zombies games
@@seasons1745 sure, but it is extremely useful. and how you need to pack a punch your gun five times is stupid and unnecessary.
@@mohammadn5591 Nope, it’s not. Also, everyone use different perks in Bo4.
Wrong. You’re just a boring player. The system worked fine
I recently got back into BO2 and BO3 zombies after almost 5 years absent - after playing a while, I started to wonder why haven’t I ever bought or played BO4? Well… thank you for reminding me why I’ve never bothered to play it or even remember of its existence
Meanwhile I’m still vibing in BO3 Zombies.
(Three years later and I’m still blown away by the notifications this dorky comment gets! I wish you all the best and hope y’all continue having fun with whatever Zombies you like the most!!!)
Me too
Same
Literally played bo3 today. Best game ever
Colby Harrison psn?
Just re down loaded it
Its not even fking zombies anymore, its goddam wizard's and dragon's
Donald Trump playing zombies at the white house??
Are you really Donald Trump?
Donald Trump no it’s dungeons and dragons
So sayeth the POTUS!
Your fired
I tried bo4 zombies when it released. Never did i touch it again, until we first got cold war and then the biggest dissappointment to zombies ever with vanguard. Bo3 holds the top spot. But going back to bo4 after playing cold war and vanguard. It just makes me realise that for me at least it’s so satisfying to play! And it’s the most comparebale zombies experience to bo3 zombies.
You tried infinite warfare Zombies?
@@daniel_960_ its cool but feels wierd sometimes
I will much rather play cold war zombies than bo4
@@izerison7775 cold war may be better, but it has no passion or character. It's as soulless and cash grabby as the multiplayer. At least 4 had passion behind it
@@charlesmartiniii1405did u not watch the video? bo4 had very little to no passion at all
The worst part about BO4 is it just didn’t feel like zombies. BO3 started it with slowing down the zombies and making it more accessible, making it too easy to pick up and removing the fear factor BO4 took that even further in the wrong direction of what OG fans would have wanted.
What kinda shit take on BO3 is that?
@@mayonnaise3959 that literally what happened.☠️☠️☠️ It’s universally agreed that Black Ops 1 is objectively more difficult than 3 ever could be. It’s why black ops 1 high rounds will always be more meaningful than high rounding in 3.
@@OTG1776 in 3 they made it more balanced with no more bullshit 2 hits on round one. And if you’re talking about gobble gum. Just don’t use them 💀
@@mayonnaise3959 I’m about to play Bo3 right now I didn’t say it was bad but it’s EASY in comparison to 1. Kino Der Toten is thee prime example of this. When is the last time you played Bo1? You won’t notice until you go back and play it. The problem with Bo4 is they went too far from the original formula.
@@OTG1776 I played bo1 like yesterday. And I can confirm that it’s bullshit with two swipes. And you made it out to be a bad thing that BO3 is much more balanced.
Imagine adding a fantastic perk called widows wine, and then scraping it the game later.
Widows wine: “where, where am I”
Phd flopper: “first time kid”
The could’ve just put widows wine over winters wail
every good player knows widows was too op
Widows wine Is now called Winters wail and Is way better now .because
It prock when not full health(no accidental hit and zombie killed likes bo3) you can freely use grenade(before you never throw grenade because you lose explosion ,the Only loss Is the Poison knife which personally i never used on High round.
Zayskar Mithrarin what?
Fixing things that aren't broken honestly best sentence I've heard for b04
First half: too much innovation
Second half: zero innovation
Brandyn New A classic case of “taking things out of context”.
my favorite part ab bo4 is the custom mapping tools and the amount of custom zombies maps they have.
Brony_a_Pony Free Vbucks “CUSTOM ZOMBIE MAPS” literally every ether map is a remaster.
*Wrecking things that are perfect
I really liked ww2 zombies, the only zombies map me and my friends managed to finish without having to solve sherlock tier enigmas and because of that easy story progression but hard enough zombies it was fun as hell.
It's not treyarch zombies but it was acc pretty good in its own right
Likewise doing the hardcore ee on the final reich was some of the most fun I have had in zombies period
CoD WaW zombies is where it's at, the first black ops zombies was decent too. i remember trying CoD Coldwar zombies *it was a free weekend* and...you can pick your starter weapon...? spawn in with a m4 or an ak? where's the challenge there? the newer zombies looks foreign to me.
@@TY-km8hj Idk why infinity ward and sledgehammer copied treyarch.
@@carymnuhgibrilsamadalnasud1222 my guess is it was Activision that MADE them copy treyarch tho tbf to the devs, specifically sledgehammer, did put their own spin on it so it was copying the concept not the style and gameplay. Ww2 was fun and exo zombies is underrated imo. I can't speak for infinity ward tho as I never played their zombies.
BO4 was like season 8 of GoT for the zombies community.
Tim Hansen: No one wants to spend 15,000 points on pack a punching
*Laughs in black ops cold war*
@A bird Laughs in 1000 rare salvage
@@BSizzle26 that shit is impossible to get
I was about to uninstall when I say that it takes 50k to fully pack
@Im in hell it takes 30 rounds to get 1000
50k total and then 52k if u want the weapon thingy added to it
I really miss the famous “you need a little revive” “ya thirsty partner?” “Just take a sip,you will move faster” jingles..such good memories
justROB stop yo complaining about yo bad aiming something the hotspot baby give it all you got it’s the dead shot jingle can’t remember all of it
Same justROB
tombstone soda is the best perk jingle
thepugliferz 2nd channel I have no idea what you just said.
Reach a Juggernog tonight god the memories.
Perks I love you!
At first I didn't like BO4. It was such a drastic change from what zombies used to be and I thought that I would never see myself playing it. That is until I did years later in 2023. I have changed my mind. Yes I still don't like the perk system but I just adapt to a new playstyle every time I play. Thanks to BO4, I now learn to adapt and try to get over the mechanics, controls, and gimmicks any game has which introduced me to games that I haven't even tried to like. Before playing BO4 I was stubborn about what I liked and didn't like, and now I'm more flexible.
I'll still never forgive BO4 for removing Double Tap
And juggernaut
Double Tap 2 is the dumbest thing in zombies prior to Cold War. PaP exists for a reason. BO4 has a health cap at round 35. CoD fans don't understand game design.
So, I have seen lots of hate for black ops 4. I preordered this game, just for the mastercraft pistol pre-order bonus. It was the coolest mastercraft I had ever seen. The fact that BOPS4 launched with 3 zombies maps? One being set on the Titanic, the other in an ancient gladiator arena, and the third being a remake of blood of the dead?! Done deal. I played so much of that game, and I remember mostly I used Seraph in multiplayer. The pack a punch was much more difficult to get than cold war, but it was such a fun time! Not to mention, all the other maps that released with the season pass. I used to play split screen with a friend, and i really really enjoyed it. I thought all the areas were really unique, also that the game LAUNCHED with 3 completely different zombies maps. I will definitely defend BOPS4 even if it’s not considered “good”. It gave me hours upon hours of memories, and I still don’t regret getting the pre-order. Is it the best zombies game? No. Did I enjoy it? HELL YEAH!!!!
People are just biased in the community because guys like this or too bad for bo4 zombies.
“Another remaster? YOU BET YOUR SWEET ASS!” 😂😭
My ears were bleeding
21:21
Im sorry, but weren’t yall literally complaining about nostalgia and shit in BO3 and how “This doesn’t feel like COD” and now COD starts to bring the old shit back and you guys are complaining that they are bringing shit back from old cods.
It’s hard to make the same game twice yet add something different to it. Only specific gaming companies with the right talent can do that.
SpoonGaming, we didn’t ask for every single aether map to be a remaster and we also didn’t ask for a terrible engine with too many flaws.
@@drphilsranch6782 Agreed my guy
Black ops 1 was my favourite. If I want to play a zombies, I don't want to have to watch an hour long tutorial first or not have a clue where to go or what to do
ahem...... moon?
@@gabrielbrown6805 Good point, but you don't have to do the Easter egg. I've still never done it
Why did you need a tutorial for maps after bo1 zombies? (Ignoring the easter egg) If you just wanted to survive and open pack a punch, they were mostly straight forward.
Like Origins, where you had to just activate the 6 generators or MotD where you just had to build the plane, Buried was straight forward too and nuketown obviously too.
I don`t remember DIe rise so I`m gonna say that you`re right for that map.
Continuing with BO3, you had shadows of evil with the rituals which were basically the origins generators all over again, but since you needed items to activate them, I`m gonna give you another point here. Then in Eisendrache, you had to press F on 3 platforms and PaP spawned. Zetsubou, you`re right, it takes ages to open PaP there. Gorod Krovi is simple since everything is colormarked there.
Then Revelations which basically was rituals again but simpler.
So you maybe have 3 complicated maps in terms of pure survival and punching weapons, compared to the rest which is relatively straight forward.
Gweeen you are right people act like they are forced to get buildable wonder weapons that you have to do quests on and Easter eggs and get specialist weapons no you are not forced just pap on bo3 and survive everything after pap is optional
Gweeen you mean 2 complex maps zns and soe
I couldn't even get behind black ops 3 zombies. Too crazy overly complicated and steep learning curve. I booted world at war... That is what I enjoy. Basic but fun.
When it came to perk choice in BO4, I took perks I knew and I was familiar with. (Mule Kick, Stamin-Up, Quick Revive and Electric Cherry.)
Tim: "Treyarch, take out the catalyst zombies and I will give you mad props"
Activision: "What's the conversion rate for mad props to USD?"
Diamond Shock underrated comment
All jokes aside, if the catalyst zombies were removed zombies would be 100 times better. The catalyst zombies and game play mechanics ruined the game for me.
This comment is one of the few original ones.
I feel old class of 2012 here
@@tysonmay5522
"Tasteless perk system." I see what you did there.
Tastes like fermented herring, dipped in cat piss
@@BaldTorment Bleeghh
Wtf i heard him say that and i see your comment at the same time 💀💀💀
“WHY DO YOU TASTE SO BAD?!”
*-Primis Richtofen*
explains tons of changes and new things they added. “the game failed because they didnt change anything”
Fellas act like BO4's easy early rounds are preferable to not being able to even knife one zombie on BO2 because of the absurd health amount.
Tim: "BO4 Pack-A-Punch takes 15k points! Thats too much!"
Cold War: 50k. Take it or leave it.
Vanguard: 75k or your life.
Yea I realized that people complained about 15k to basically make a wonder weapon but never complain about the fact cold War makes you spend 50k to fully pap a weapon
I just got this recommended 6th months later and like holy shit I've completely forgotten that BO4 even had a zombies mode
Thats like saying you forgot water taste like water
@@valinapanui7186 But the thing is does water really have a taste itself? Or is it the air mixed up with the minerals inside the water as well?
@@valinapanui7186 Basically I meant that like BO4 was such a forgettable game to me that all I remember being in the game was Multiplayer and Blackout.
With Campaign being scrapped altogether it was not gonna be worth my money and the news of Zombies being really boring, so I didn't buy it
Dude who even played blops 4 that shit was garbage
@@Brad-qw1te Again forgettable game
“No one wants to spend 15,000 points to get their weapon to its maximum capacity”
Treyarch: 50,000 take it or leave it
*Looks at Elemental Pop and ammo mods.* 60,000 and 10,000 scrap.
50 thousand really isn’t that much though, you don’t need to PaP your gun 3 times unless you’re going for a really high round. If that’s the case, you’ll easily get 100k+ points
I can deal with having to pack 3 times but 50k with a garbage point system sometimes you get to round like 13 and you don't even get enough to just pap to level 3 let alone get all the doors open
@@notveryultraguy why would you pap to level 3 on round 13? That’s a waste of money. Once is enough until round 20-25.
@JoeShmoe120 me, but only PAP once. I can also PAP on round five with a gum.
Little did people in 2019 know, the aether timeline would live on. And Activision would mess it up with Vanguard.
As a PC player, I can confidently say BO3 was the height. Not only did you get a great selection of maps. Not only did you see a lot of the systems pretty much refined to their end point. On top of all of that, we got easy, native mod support through the steam workshop. Bo3 Zombies still sees a fair amount of action there because you can poke through the workshop and find new maps. Some are trash, some are excellent. Want a long, complex, intricate map with a lot of things to do? Someone has done it. Want something a bit more relaxed to play with friends without giving yourself hypertension? Also there. Moving away from that (at least on the PC end) was already a bad value proposition. On top of that, you have all the issues listed here.
Story wise. . . I kinda just miss it being Nazi wonder-tech/occultism. But they did save the most insane elements for after the Ultimis storyline, so I can kind of push that aside and isolate it as its own in my head.
You know what they should do? They should make a game just called, “Call Of Duty: Zombies” which would be a collection of the entire Aether story line thrown into one game, as if it were its own individual game. And then maybe, if the Chaos storyline finishes, come out with a sequel named “Call Of Duty Zombies: Chaos”
I'm pretty sure they would mess it up by adding tons of microtransaction damn you Activision
NO IDIOT THEN HOW ARE WE GONNA NICKEL AND DIME PEOPLE FOR EVERYTHING THEY ARE WORTH
-Activision probably
That would be a great idea but I’m pretty sure Activision’s greed would get the best of them and it would end up being ruined i think zombies honestly is truly over
AlienWarForce more money to spend. I’d rather them just make it right without having to take such action
Problem that will take yrs
to make
“When you need a little reviveee” “Dance with me jugga girl” When you heard these comments your character made, it always hit different
I'm sure he said reach for me jugga girl.
Natalie Hishun he did I was playing kino on chronicles the other day and that’s what Dempsey said
Brings back great memories!
"ooh-rah"
Your hands are slow, your movements sluggish,
Tim I have no idea if you’ll see this but thank you. My dog just got put down minutes ago and I never got to see her pass since I’m too young to go to the vet. But thank you we have known she was going to pass for about a week now. But watching you videos has kept my mind off of it for the most part. So just thank you 🙏
If Nostalgia was a TH-camr ....
People complain of gobble gums being op on BO3
BO4: Hold my 200 health
Elixirs weren't op though
Yeah one of the things that BO4 did better than BO3 is actually the elixir/gobblegum system
Ok but 200 hp cant really be compared to round 1 having all perks
undeadhangover me: Hold my near death experience, shopping free, power vacuum and perkaholic.
@@billyshirley4443 near death is weakened with a limit of 5 revives
shopping free is less effective due to the larger maps
Perkaholic doesn't grant all perks
I'll give you power vac it's pretty op
'I think I forgot about something...'
'If you forgot about it then it wasn't important'
'Yeah I guess you're right'
cuts to zombies crashing on round 5 at launch
(Two and a half Men Sitcom Laugh)
ABAgamer *two and a half men outro music, cut to commercials*
I'm glad they'll be using a new engine because the crashing didn't start until Black Ops 3. And it only ever happens in zombies for some reason.
@@isaacdeherrera7890 depends, the crashing in older games happened at waaay later rounds.
in BO4 (forgot the remake of Five) the Easter Egg was locked behind a certain round ... WHICH NOBODY COULD LEGIT GET BECAUSE THE GAME KEPT CRASHING.
i still want to go back to the EE's in bo4 but just the pure restless and chaotic nature of BO4 zombies puts me off.
learned a good portion of blood of the deads EE (solo) and then lost my interest because it was just repeating the same, over and over again.
i never had a moment to catch my breath, run around and complete certain things, when im doing things that require attention (fucking morse code section) i can't have this random zombie behind me swiping at me.
I think that if they wanted to fix the perk clutch system they should’ve done what maps like ascension, call of the dead, moon and origin did were you could do something that would reward you with the ability to get more than 5 perks like how monkeys give a free perk for preventing them from touching any of the perk machines, or how you could dig up an extra perk slot or how on some maps you could permanently get all of the perks on the maps by beating the easter egg. All of those require you to do something for a reward that is worth it
this video is the embodiment of “an opinion can be wrong if it is not substantiated by valid arguments”
“Fixing problems that never existed”
And
“You cannot relax in bo4 zombies”
Pretty much sums it up for me
He kinda contridited himself he says early he is invincible but then he says he cant relax
Project_ Ronin I mean it’s true. It’s all in the game design. Zombies are sporadic and faster even from the beginning, layouts of 4’s maps are all such a mess (even big maps in BO3 and BO1 were simplified in layout to the point where this wasn’t as much of an issue in comparison), zombies come from every corner (bo3 had that problem to an extent, though 4 is more chaotic and annoying), untrainable and unpredictable (aka stressful, bo3 kinda has this issue which is the only thing I hated about it, but bo4 amplified it), etc etc. Might be near invincible but it’s still very hard to relax - it’s all in the details / overall game design.
Project_ Ronin he means in the early rounds he’s invincible
I haven’t played bo4 zombies much but what that means to me is that you can’t even make crawlers anymore. How the hell am I supposed to explore and figure out the maps when the last zombie always sprints at full speed scratching my ass constantly while I’m trying to navigate these confusing maze-like maps looking for parts and other shit. I tried throwing grenades at zombies on round 10+ and they always died instantly from it even when they weren’t very close to the grenade.
Cant enjoy the game much. Constantly having to sprint to stay alive you can barely look around. Makes some of these Easter eggs almost impossible to figure out. The voyage of despair has a glitch with the levers. It rarely let's me pass this step so I cant even complete this map. Not to mention I always seem to get snagged on things that results in a ko. The delay when using elixirs and special weapons. I should get a refund since it wont let me complete voyage of despair. Game sucks
"B03 seems to be the fan favorite"
B02: Am I a joke to you?
Facts this nigha trippin
The only maps the masses liked from BO2 were Mob and Origins. BO1 is definitely the fan favorite.
bestpsychosean hasnolastname town is an icon
@@ballisticbug7068 same with Tranzit, and buried.
The most Iconic Zombies map is defenitely Kino der Toten.
the worst part was becuase they killed our boys breaks my heart still crying to this day
Not every story ends with a happy ending
just as the saying goes "All good things must come to an end" Rip Aether crew (Ultimis and Primis crew)
I lost my care for Ultimis when they introduced the whole multiple universes shit with the start of Shadows of Evil. By the time the characters died in later games I didn't bother to care because I lost the connection I had with them. I liked the old fashion zombies with BO1 and BO2 and I wish things stayed simple and scary, but I can see why people like the newer games.
Didn’t realize I was supposed to be relaxing while playing zombies
I’m still playing world at war zombies. Can’t beat the vibe of darkness
i never was playing back then but from what i’ve seen that was when zombies actually was sorta scary
@@idekidek_ it is scary asf bruh
Same ww2 is underrated no cap
@@guyguy7068 ww2 zombies was the most graphic by far i played ww2 for a bit it’s not even bad idk why no one talks about it
@@idekidek_ they don't talk bout it cause it didn't have as much marketing and the mutiplayer wasn't as strong as zombies. Totally underrated though I agree
Does anyone remember how Teddy (Sam’s teddybear) was thought to be the antagonist during most of WaW/early BO1?
Those were the days, back when we had no fucking idea what the fuck was going on in terms of the story.
@@Pats0c Can you blame us? The way it was staring down at the map holding a knife in der riese. And the writing on the wall "teddy is a liar"
Lets not forget Samantha's bloody room on kino.
Lockheed remember when we all saw the ending cutscene of the origins Easter egg for the first time!? Everyone came to the conclusion that the zombies storyline was just two kids named Samantha and eddy playing with action figures in their room!
EsTheAy Uhh
Lockheed I remember that but I wasn’t sure if it was in bo1 or bo2
Seeing the HK21 come up in the box, still makes me smile all these years later
Tim: No one wants to spend 15,000 points on pack a punch
Also Tim: I like Cold War's pack a punch system where it takes 50,000 points to pack a punch
The best part of zombies that I just now realized is when a new map comes out and you and all your friends launch the new map and scavenge around the map looking for jug.
But that's the one thing you cant do in Bo4 sadly
Nostalgia was starting to kick in with your post and then you're ending there and I just laughed at that because it's the sad truth
@@Instinctv one of the most memorable parts of all of zombies and you can't do it in Black Ops 4 at all
that zombies player bo4 would be cool apart from the part that’s it’s basically dog shit compared to other zombies games
@@eznosqueezy5241 better than CW and BO2
it failed, because of Treyarch caring about that battle royale.
I mean blackout was quite good for the time they had to make it.
User2262 I’ll agree it is cool to see the campaign and zombie characters working together, and the map with other maps from the black ops series in one map.But battle royale is cancer.
@@KidneyStealer02 Yes. I like blackout though as the only mode in bo4 I really play since I don't play zombies except when I want to grind for my last trophy. Which is getting 25 weapons max level or prestige.
@@KidneyStealer02 especially without the blackops pass.
@@User-xl8ke not really it was shit
When its hard to get attached to the choas story because the eather one simply exists in the same space has to be the silliest thing ive ever heard
One thing, I actually did like multiple packapunch system. I liked how there was a random modifier each time and the gun got stronger. It felt like your gun could still get better, there was still a higher point to aim for.
BO3 was a whole vibe.
Sat in the loading screen with Giant selected just waiting for a bit. Bro that was so good, having the music in the background. Sitting up on catwalk. Ooff. Miss it
Actually playing Der riese on waw or even bo1 is so much better
Ksparky the only reason id ever play og wow would be for the ppsh. Everything else was worse. Double tap sucked, the wonderwaffe took your jug and quick revive was useless on solo. I will give it the plus of wow having the best weapons, in terms of damage, overall before bo3
gilberito2001 intelligence spotted
@@gilberito635 I just don't fuck with the gobblegum or bo3 weapons at all, og feel much better to me
Ksparky i get that, like i said, the waw weapons were great.
“What are we gonna end Zombies on? Another remaster?”
...
*”YOU BET YOUR SWEET ASS”*
Gio
Yeah, something like Zombies Chronicles 2 would be fine, just don’t fill the actual DLCs with Remasters
@@astra3766 all i want is a buried remaster and at that point just give me new maps
Gio idk if it’s gonna have zombies, could be wrong but there’s been NO news on it. maybe that’s the tactic
J Dawg it’s in the files
@@Gio-ec5pc already confirmed, all new maps! i do hope for a zombies game with every zombies map and easter egg since nacht der untoten with options to use every generation of weapons and perks and sub weapons. one big remasterd zombies game.
Tim in BO4: “Too much content at launch is bad and overwhelming”
Tim in Cold War: **complains about the lack of content**
Tim " the game makes you a god from the beginning "
Also Tim "the game is not relaxing" " the zombies are stupid spawning all around you"
They made the experience more challenging whilst giving u the tools to make it enjoyable.
Edit: I like the content but sometimes his complaints contradict themselves
BO4 is to easy yet to hard
BO4 changed thing that didn't need changing yet didn't change enough
Too much content then complaining about not enough content on cold war
Because its the quality of that content. On face value 4 maps at launch is great but when 2 of them a remasters and then the others are underwhelming and having 2 story lines to follow. But then on cold war having 1 decent map at launch but then ni idea when the next dlc is coming. Its really hard to get that balance.
@@reaganbrookerbeaumont8290 bruh die maschine is technically an alpha omega version of Nacht der Untoten
You have to remember Fortnite was in its prime around that time.
So everyone being busy playing that plus just overwhelmed by bo4 which feels inferior to bo3 and misses its identity, left the game totally without any appeal.
Nobody had the time for bo4 and it didn't feel like it was worth the time.
I had crazy hours in bo3 Zombies. I tried to like bo4 but after a short time just felt like f that shit lets go play Fortnite.
@@daniel_960_ I don’t get how that relates to my comment
Fun fact bo4 zombies was gonna be better because there would be a zombies chronicles 2 with tranzit die rise and buried remake and also the chaos story would've ended with 2 more maps but it got cancelled because treyarch was forced to rush cold war
it wouldve had 3 years worth of content, a second season pass and zombies chronicles
I was wishing for bo2 maps remaster since 2015
The old zombies was gritty as hell an had a dark an ominous feeling of you know your not gonna make it out I loved them so much I never played the watered down colorful bs
Andre Adams uuh the old zombies had some self awareness and humorous aspects too. Have you ever stopped to listen to the últimis characters’ quotes?
@@estheay3611
That was comic relief for a story that was the phrase, "You can't win because this isn't about you." The Zombies story in Black Ops ended with the Earth being blown up and zombies STILL being a menace, only now the characters are stuck on the moon with only a post-Hiroshima planet to go back to. Shit was dark, yo. Richtofen was the antagonist and he came out getting exactly what he wanted: an unstoppable army of the undead.
Blood of the dead had the most emotional cutscene with Richthofen dying but also the Easter egg song video they put out for blood of the dead was more emotional then anything in the game
(Thanks for the likes)
True. I still listen to that song occasionally
Too bad blood of the dead sucked ass
I remember feeling so many mixed emotions after Blood's cutscene. Sadness for Richtofen, hype to fight Monty, wondering what could happen next.
Then the rest of BO4 happened and I felt like dying.
I loved the Blood of the dead cut scene and enjoyed the map.It's just a shame people including my self had so many bad memories getting countless errors when doing the easter egg.
More emotional than the fucking tdt ending
Chronicles was probably the best thing we will ever get
One thing I can agree with is the fact that we got 4 reimagines, that was a bit frustrating. Idk why they didn’t just add a 2nd instalment of chronicles with mob, call of the dead and a few others and then give us 2 original maps. I liked alpha omega and classified because I wanted a nuketown Easter egg so badly and I hated five so yeah
I miss grief, when the CIA and the CDC would try to kill each other.
Edit: bruh
Respectively; Zalshorock
If I was in solo, I would restart the game until I was a CDC.
@@cheese919 wow was i the only one who loved the snazzy look of the FBI
Ab dude i always thought the fbi looked lit af and that the cdc looked dumb
@@pepezuniga3338 ikr but all my friends liked cdc for some reason
Ab wait was it fbi or cia
waw - A great start and introduction to perks and add ons. Nothing to complicated.
B01 - Treyarch put their heart and soul into the detail of the story. Not too much confusion on the story and a good ending on moon. The golden era.
bo2 - Great, some of the best ever maps. M0TD & Origins and Buried. Harder maps, more depth in story.
bo3 - More mechanics added, good maps and boss fights. Wrapping things up.
bo4 - Dragging the story and adding a new story line - Chaos.. Rushed remasters. Too much pointless stuff.
Actually the majority of the zombie community likes bo3
Lake Ree idk about rushed remastered cuz looking at tag der toten and blood of the dead the remasters seem pretty good 😂 I can’t go back to mob of the dead and play it cuz I’m so used to blood of the dead and how it is it seems way better
Infinite 8 better graphics and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy easier than mob
BO3 Zombies Was The Best
Lake Ree bo4 didn’t drag the story, it literally only had 4 maps from aether and each of them were about ending the story
this video convinced me to never want to play bo4, then i actually played it and realized this is just you postulating your own personal opinions as facts
Zombie TH-camrs always do that.
@@Cloud9Leo like that one time where no one thought that Kino is Overrated, then "TheSmithPlays" said It's overrated and now everyone thinks Kino is overrated. It just shows how sheep the community is
I feel like Cold War is what treyarch wanted with bo4
Zombies is one of those gamemodes that are deep in player's hearts, and if you don't care for it while making it, everyone notices...
This was an example of this
If you're not going to care, just bring Extinction back.
God no not extinction, of anything tryarch should be in charge of something like that, give them three years and boom I bet you got a real story
@@revenantproxy9100 Extinction isn’t even zombies 🤣
This aged well
@@Zombie-lo6il Well yeah I'm saying if you don't want to put effort into making zombies, make a different PvE mode like Extinction
It's pretty simple. Everyone likes zombies but not everyone wants to open 100 doors and do an easter egg to open pac. The maps have to be simple for casual players. But also have the option to solve interesting easter eggs for more experienced players.
Well...Bo4 have done it better then bo3, to open pack in most of the maps in bo4 is easy as hell. In bo3 almost every map have some long time taking process of opening pap. Soe-5 rituals. Der eisendrache- to find location of pap 3 times. Zetsubou- all this generators things. Gorod- to do Groph module. Revelations- activate all 4 gens. In bo4 only maybe night of the dead have pretty long pap activation. Like blood needs only shield from you and Tag der untoten- simply give guy on lighthouse blue rock that is just near the lighthouse.
Agreed. It's not really a question of being an experienced player or not though. High-rounders are way more skilled and put in way more hours of playtime than easter egg solvers yet they don't give a flying fuck about those "quests".
To true, my guy. Thats why Ascension was my fav map. It was the first to actually kinda make a big Easter egg. It was a great map for cas players to go as high as they can and a great map for Easter egg hunts. To this day me and my buddies are convinced no one has solved that maps Easter egg to 100%. But then it just got too crazy. It became a mission (or chore) to get the easter egg in later games which kinda takes away from the fun of it.
Those dummy casuals have to look at youtube tutorials, just like what I do because I'm a filthy casual and I just jumped into this bandwagon
Best zombies was Black Ops 1 in my opinion, 2 was great as well
Years later, we now know that on classified, we were called the crew after the Easter on tag was completed and that treyarch wanted a second season of zombies maps
18:18
i love how he says "Voyage of Despair" and then shows Tag gameplay XDD
The gaming community: "I cant wait to see the future of first person shooters. I cant wait to see how creative companies get with their new games"
Every gaming company in the world: *"ever heard of battle royale?"*
LMFAO
They even put it in a car game...
A CAR GAME?!
@@redraider7614 really ? Wich car Game ? Lol
Chris Dingler Forza Horizon 4
how could they remove jug especially when black ops 3 had a special edition that CAME WITH A JUGGERNOG MINI FRIDGE
They're idiots not gonna lie Dying Wish is nice
Beacause they are retards
That mini fridge is still the greatest thing I ever bought
Wow I forgot I really wanted that fridge when it came out 😢😢😢
You literally have permanent jug, morons 🤦♂️...
I think Bo4 zombies aged really well. After time has passed the changes are much needed. Its great to have a different type of zombies to play after Bo1, bo2, and bo3 were really similar. The nice part is we can still go back and pick any one we want
I dunno man, I'd rather play CoD Ghosts Aliens / extinction mode for a change of pace when I'm tired of zombies, or other co-op game entirely like Back 4 blood, Rainbow Six Extraction, Deep Rock Galactic, etc, not bo4 lol but anyways just my opinion
WAW, BO1, BO2 y BO3
We didnt give bo4 the value it have on that time, it was a really good game even out of zombies. Super underrated and every single map of the game is good and enjoyable
I've never paid attention to the online COD community, I never knew BO4 Zombies was considered bad. All my friends love it. We've mostly switched over to Cold War Zombies but BO4 Zombies is great
Was BO4 zombies your first experience with tryarch zombies?
@@scorchercast8366 Mostly. I had played 3 once (but I didn't understand what was happening) and I had played 2 twice before. That one I don't like as much because it's hard to distinguish the zombies from the background (among other things.) Still a good game that I'll play from time to time, but we would usually play a game of BO2 then switch to BO4
@@donovanwiebe2495 23:33, listen
I don't have a ps4 but i played it on a friend's console and i had a pretty god damn fun time was it even close to bo2 and 1? No but was it fun fuck yeah bro i had so much fun i loved the story i loved the bo4 aether ending
its as he said in the video if u dont know what ur missing its a good game but compared to bo2 and 3 its just not it
First time I played bo4 like a year after release with my friends, “where is jug?” Friend replies, “you already have it” my reply, “damn that sucks”
Smh
Yea same
LOL that me and my cousin
cousin:uhh So you know evrything bc im just a survival player soo wheres Jugg?
Me:you have it boi
cousin:FFFFFFFFF delete this game
True
My friend can’t even play the game nor refund it...
everything went nuts after BO 2, i don't need vampires, aliens, inter-dimentional beings, ghosts, a wolf-man, witches, magic, time travel, i just need ZOMBIES, that's what the gamemode is about, ZOMBIES.
Lämp I agree for storyline. I hated the aliens vampires all that shit in the story. But for gameplay I loved it. All the new crazy shit that was in bo4/bo3 was just fun cause it was so crazy
Shadows and der eisendrache were good
@@alexandersveryown4760 exactly.
Bo2 had vamps
B03 was fine tbh, it actually was my favorite cod mainly bc I played it with all of my friends from school and people online and zombies was fun, I was playing with 60 or more people a week on bo3. It felt different and was so much fun... besides the campaign
funniest youtuber i’ve ever watched😭 “free shields gotta fix that”🤣
Did anyone else notice that when Tim mentioned Voyage, he gave Tag gameplay?
Am I the only one who just wants SIMPLE, not overly complicated, kinda creepy and not crazy story focused maps like in WAW, BO1, and BO2?
You're not alone, BO2 is the absolute apex
Burt Macklin nope I miss bo1 and 2, the storyline was great too but you didn’t need to know any of it for the map to be fun
I’m with you on that chief
This storyline has been around since bo1, get over it
Platinum Playss I mean hey if you love fighting octopus men I guess you love this game
I don’t even know the new map names, that’s how much I’ve dropped off this game. I used to plays zombies everyday with my mates but now it’s just shit aha
Without a downfall there can't be a renaissance
If you played WaW-BO2 here's a reminder shadows of evil the giant Der esiendrach zetsubou no shima gorod krovi Revelations chronicals blood of the dead voyage of Despair shit I don't even play the chaos story classified alpha Omega and Tag der Toten
me too, i bought bo4 w season pass and hated it and didn’t keep up at all. completely disregarded it
Real shit
@@xariusalcocer625 der eisendrache shit?! you are!
alternate title:tim hansen destroys the bo4 perk system for half the video
I think a simple thing they could have done to improve this whole experience immensely would have been to prioritize the aether story and finish that first. They should have had those dlc's release first so we could have had our closure and held an open mind for the brand new Chaos story mode. It would have also been nice to have had dead of the night launch in the correct order, rather than it being a later DLC with no marketing.
“If it ain’t broke don’t fix it”
Treyarch: hold my beer
not treyarch activision
@@Drachenwald It was treyarch, Jason Blundell changed the whole Zombie formula for no reason.
@@Drachenwald it's Treyarch. Activision Milked zombies tits and treyarch messed up the actual game
*Grabs Sledgehammer*
@Ocean Deyy bo2 buried
People forget how big BO3 zombies was.. There were literally zombies world championships back in 2017 and it was crazy
Wish we could go back in time rn
big? with gobblegums for pussies?
finmat95 gobblegums made the game for fun and interesting. BO3 wasnt made to be a black ops 2 copy paste. It was something new and everyone liked it
@@unreal4139 They don't make the game for fun, they make it too easy
@@finmat95 First of all the OP gobblegums like Perkaholic are super rare and hard to get. You can also choose not to use them and only use classics or not use any gums at all. Sure, they make the game easier but not too easy, since the zombies in bo3 are stronger and harder to survive against. If you even come close to their hit boxes they can land a hit on you compared to waw bo1 and bo2 where you could run beside a train of zombies and avoid any hit
UnReaL Dont mind this man just died while nearly completed the der eisendrache easteregg because he didn’t had fear in headlights...
I’d love to see a why Cold War failed
he wont do that cause he’ll have to contradict himself so much nobody will even take him serious anymore
It didn’t
You hit me outta nowhere with the no intro in this video. I was like "what?" "What did he say?"
Coming from a casual zombies fan
Nothing about the story is simple, I almost never knew what in the hell anything was or what I was doing or why. The older zombies were better because they were simpler and doing Easter eggs wasn’t detrimental to progress through the rounds. These are the two things that stuck out most to me.
Nick FUCKING FACTS!! I really don’t mind bo3 that much, I think it’s a decent game to a casual, but for the reasons you stated, casuals like us would be so confused and not know what’s going on and basically would just go back to the simpler maps. Not because I want everything easy,(if anything it’s a lot harder to fucking get pack a punch unlocked and get the basis of survival set up), but that it’s now a chore to even get anything done without getting fucked by confusion and zombies lol BO2 was the last game I actually bought and genuinely enjoyed. Bo3 and Bo4 were given to me as gifts and not once have I ever thought about hopping back on it EXCEPT to go on maps that are remastered (such as der reise) that fixes the problems on the original. Don’t get me wrong, bo2 had those problems with the Easter eggs too, but like you said that they’re OPTIONAL. The things you do to set up WITHOUT considering the Easter egg, HALF OF THE EASTER EGG IS ALREADY DONE. That’s when the quests come to play which makes sense because if you want a greater reward(if you get one to begin with lol) you gotta earn it. It makes sense to do some chores to enhance the zombies experience. I don’t mind bo3, but that game put the nail in the coffin. Anyone that has a non biased mind that get the big picture knows that bo1-bo2 are the truly last true pieces of cod zombies. Anything else is just a remaster or reimagined version of previous cods.
i hate the new zombies because the dumb story plot over took everything. i can barley survive past round 10 on new maps mostly because i play solo and even with randoms online its almost impossible because none of us want to do the stupid easter eggs to get pack a punch or fight annoyingly bullet sponge boss battles that suck. and on cod ww2 you couldnt even patch windows in the old school style house map. i dont mind bits of innovation but the core of what made zombies to me and my friends was taken away when they kept introducing over the top easter eggs that were needed to be completed to survive and stupid enemies like the crawling things in bops and bosses.
My exact thought , zombies were made popular by the casual community , yet they ignored that and made it overly complicated for the youtube easter egg channel clout , bo2 was last zombies i enjoyed
@MrJamininja so apparently liking casual games means youre not very good nowadays, lmao say that to everyone to everyone that is complaining in the comments lmao
@MrJamininja i dunno bout that dude used to do really well on the original ones all the way up to id say black ops 2. its all the new story shit that totally drags all the actual fun away, its not what zombies was at all. give me der reise or kino and ill get you up those rounds!
I just don’t understand how they could end a story like this on a remastered map. I would have rathered then put one or two chaos maps in and give us one really good finally map
Yes, somebody gets it, I thought the remasters were good on their own separate note with some different details, but the fact that they depended the story n remakes. It just seems like they slugged through this
The story should’ve ended on a map with the Great War and Monty being the final boss
We should’ve collected the rest of the real staff crystals and had access to the true staffs playing as the Great War versions of the crew and taking Monty down
@@wolfensteinassassin2744 true, if this was supposedly the end of their storylines, you'd think the action would end with their crew, not primis, even though their story ended with them
I mean Revelations was just a compilation of remastered maps
I listened to him complain and scream for 26 minutes, and agreed the entire time great video 😭😭🙌🙌🙌🙌
Ngl the more I go back to bo4 the more I appreciate it
It's actually insulting how shit the "full story" turned out to be for fans who played since nacht. Really bugs me how silly it got, a real shame.
I'm the same way, the moment you boot up Nacht on the good ole WaW, you realize, "wow, it's so bare bones, but just as if not more exhilarating than the new shit".
I agree with you on the story. It was absolutely ridiculous.
I was on board with the story until blood of the dead, but I do miss the groundedness of the old games.
I still wish it was just all simple again, where group 935 we're the enemies for making the zombies, and not having to deal with stupid ass alien bullshit just to make an excuse on how badly the story line doesn't connect
Everything up until Black ops 3 was good, besides the fake alien and exo zombies shit
I hate how it got so overly complicated like can i plz just kill zombies with funny characters not not worry about doing a overly complicated easter egg with boring characters just so i can get a cool sword or my pack a punch machine
“Nobody wants to pack a punch their weapons 5 times for a grand total of 15,000 points to reach the weapons full potential” *Laughs in Die Machine*
*maschine
At least it isn't 5 times
@@Tenderofyggdrasil I rather have the 5 times, because then I could choose to upgrade further or not and do it all at once if I wanted to. I hate this forced progression PaP. It's not zombies.
@@Tenderofyggdrasil you still have to upgrade the weapon if it’s not already legendary. It sucks. I’d rather just pack 5 times, than wait 20 rounds to be able to upgrade a gun to legendary.
Also whenever I can bring in any gun that I want in, I can just bring a crunch gun instead of having to use the mystery box. That’s a terrible cycle and makes the game boring as hell.
@@mathjesticgaming1188 yeah but i just enjoy older zombies more, specially bo3
They should make a all spin off game where these characters have timelines u can actually play almost like how u can on gta v , and it’s primary focus is nothing but zombies so u get that high quality map excitement that we first got when zombies first came out. I remember I was like 14 at that time and use to play it for HOURS !
"REEEEAAAACH FOR VODKA TONIIIIIIGGHHHHTTT"
"My tap has been doubled - BUT NOT MY VODKA"
Im late to the party but...
Since bo2 zombies i always wished for a zombie only game from treyarch. I cant describe how much i dont care about multiplayer.
Give us a zombie game
i agree and i don't want a fucking battle royale that no one ask for that's why fortnite ruined the gaming industry
Honestly there are enough maps to make a full-fledged game. As long as they stick to the original design for each map. Oii that would be so dope
@Horseface fortnite ruined evrything i hope it gets demolished
@Horseface i played it i thought it's not bad but the game was too repititive so much cringey as hell , those 5 year old people everywhere it ruined youtube i miss those tilmes when there were cod , halo , bf and single player open world videos
@Horseface i just wish it doesn't last longer
*BO4 in a nutshell:*
Treyarch: *Lets take everything the fans like about zombies, and PUSH it somewhere else!*
Treyarch & Activision: *PUUUUUSH!*
Actually (and please don't call me a shill) it could be:
Treyarch: no sir, we can't change these things and...
Activision: DID I STUTTER!!?! (While pointing a gun at treyarch while chaining in a side infinity ward and sledgehammer games)
Awesome spongebob reference 😂
Multiplayer was also copy and paste
Hamza Malik just like in every other cod game your point?
@@frazza5503 not before. Black ops 3 was the last fresh COD. It was original and didn't really take any inspiration from other COD games apart from AW. It refined AW movement. Bo4 was just a lazy last minute job.
Tim.. im a 3rd the way into the vid and all you've talked about is nostalgia! "Dont remove the crutch perks, we've grown so attached!" Please man..
he is a sheep that cant form his own opinion and cant fathom the fact that a company wont make the same game 10 times over again. tim hansen is a sucker for the same old over and over and over again. same copy and paste gameplay
This morning I was noticing how I play bo3 zombies damn near exclusively and I go back to older Tre arc Zombies every now and then. But not bo4. Ever. I own bo4 but its not even installed at the moment. I come home from work and I love that this video pops in my recommended, its just perfect timing :)