How to Tell if You Have BAD Pool Table Cushion Rubber! (and How to Remove it)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ม.ค. 2021
  • Some of my viewers have asked me how to determine if their pool table rubber is bad. In this video, I explain how you can tell and how to remove the rubber.
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    Don't get bamboozled by false information given by shady pool table techs. A lot of the work they do and the products they provide can't be checked by the customer once installed. For instance, you pay to have all 6 rubbers replaced and they only replace the dead ones. You pay for a higher quality cloth and they replace it with lower quality. Be sure to check whatever you're paying for.
    I let my customers know what ALL of their options are; from least expensive (lower quality) to most expensive (higher quality). My customers choose what they want. And, that's EXACTLY what they get. Their cloth is opened in front of them so they can see the factory stickers sealing the cloth. Photos (or in some cases, videos) are taken of the rubber replacement process (so they can see that ALL of the rubber has been replaced). And, 90+% of the work that I do is done in the customer's home. Most watch everything I do and I encourage them to ask LOTS of questions!
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  • @CreativeRestorations
    @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    • @junecontreras6896
      @junecontreras6896 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was just thinking this, just started watching it videos, I’m that curious S.O.B who’s Also too poor to afford a brand new pool table 😂
      This is definitely a great channel, I’ve sent what I could, hope your channel and your success continuous to grow 💪🏾

  • @MrTrashcan1
    @MrTrashcan1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's another segment of the population, too, regarding your philosophy of providing free information. Many of us have pool tables, like bumper pool, for example, that are small and cheap--often "junk," but they still need help--new felt, new rubber--and we don't want to have to spend the money to buy a new table because even new junk costs a fortune these days. And we don't have piles of cash lying around, like so many people seem to.
    Unfortunately we're stuck with paying for whatever rubbers and cloth are out there that are geared toward larger tables, and we'll have to use some ingenuity to adapt them to our needs, but at least we'll save money by doing it ourselves. While the technique might not be identical, videos like this at least give us an idea of what to expect rather than having to go in blindly. So it is very much appreciated.

  • @Btheball
    @Btheball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have done tables for approx 30 yrs...mostly barboxes as I worked for a vending company....lol but have done my fair share of 3 piece slates too. I believe one can always learn a better way, and when it came to doing cushion replacements, I have done a lot, but never liked the results....I'm a bit anal on things....they were fine, but not to my liking and therefore shied away from doing them, until I recently watched your video on using an angle grinder to do the finishing touches on the ends and what a eye opener. I have done 4 tables with cushion replacement since using your method and feel these have been the best I have done in 30 +yrs of doing this! Another table mech I know looked at the first set and was amazed at the smoothness and accuracy of the cushions before the endcaps were put on and was amazed...just like I was. I thank you very much for having taken the time to show your methods. Hope you have fully recovered from Covid and wish you and yours a great year!

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's always good when another person in the trade acknowledges your skills and gives you kudos. I REALLY appreciate that!
      There are so many techs (and it really doesn't matter what field we're talking about) out there that see someone trying to help people and show them the way to do something, and they think it's going to put them out of business. Nothing could be further from the truth. I really enjoy sharing what I've learned over the years. And it makes it all worthwhile when I can show someone who's been doing this for decades a new trick that makes their jobs easier and better.
      Since you've done a lot of bar boxes, I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of my last video. It's a complete step-by-step on recovering one.
      Your friend,
      Doug

  • @BaronMcCausland
    @BaronMcCausland ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We're NOT building the Titanic here! All we're doing is trying to hold this fabric in place..." LOL! Awesome! You tell 'em, Doug!

  • @petertonn7409
    @petertonn7409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're original video on replacing cushions made the job exceptionally easy. I was uncertain about jumping into the project for my home table, but following step by step gave me the confidence to do the job! Thanks!!!

  • @mc2e100
    @mc2e100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm sorry that you have critics, but I've found that when you reach higher levels of performance or expertise, the more critics you have. It seems like they try to lift themselves up by cutting high-performance people down. You are doing a great job! Thank you.

  • @macchandler5374
    @macchandler5374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this guy KNOWS what he is doing - and it IS the best way we have seen !

  • @3SuperDave3
    @3SuperDave3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is an older video, but it along with the others is very helpful and informative. I, like others, really appreciate the videos you upload. I am not a pro, but I do love the game. One thing I am, though, is one who does everything themselves. What you said regarding the type of people who are not going to pay to have someone do these type of repairs and restorations is 100% accurate. I am in the process of restoring my 1970’s model table, and I would be doing it myself regardless of your videos being available or not. At least now I can be confident in how I go about doing so. Likewise, the ones who will be paying for a professional job will still do that. Thanks so much for what you are doing and keep up the good work. It is clear that you know what you are doing, don’t let these offensive comments get in your head. Best, David. Central MS.

  • @tikijoe561
    @tikijoe561 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm one of those guys that will try it myself.
    I have a lot of confidence in my mechanical ability and I am very glad to have your TH-cam videos to teach me.
    Thank you very much.
    Frank

  • @russjones45
    @russjones45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I certainly appreciate these videos. They are without doubt informative ,entertaining and very easy to follow. Thank you for making them.

  • @jefflink4671
    @jefflink4671 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are correct about who will take on this task and who will not. I am one that will do it myself when the time comes. 42 yrs in the residential carpentry and cabinet making business. So I have the necessary skills needed and an eye for it. These videos help guys
    Ike me do it with pro results. I thank you.

  • @kdrblade
    @kdrblade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am an beginner at home tables. I lived at a bar that had a pro shop in it. I learned a lot about valley coin operated tables. But, I have no knowledge regarding home tables. Thanks for all your videos. You're a helping hand to help my buddy's hard rails.

  • @josangcal4618
    @josangcal4618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Doug great to see you back.I wish you the best in your recovery from this Virus.I have redone a pool table from the ground up,watching videos on TH-cam with your channel being 99% responsible for successful redo of my pool table.I have no Prior experience in this field but was able to achieve the restoration thanks to the helpful information you put out for us.also looking forward to the other parts of the outdoor pool table series as well as the tools and leveling video.keep up the good work.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! That's the whole point behind these videos. I know there are a lot of guys that will never work on their own pool table regardless of how much instruction they receive. But, for those who are determined to do it themselves, I'd rather they do it right.
      Just about fully recovered from "da rona" virus. Still just a little short winded. And when I get overheated, I get a little sniffle. Other than that, I'm perfectly fine!

    • @josangcal4618
      @josangcal4618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CreativeRestorations fantastic glad to hear that .

  • @michaelharrell3427
    @michaelharrell3427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the videos. Very informative and a great source of information. I'm not likely to attempt to move my table myself (probably could but....) to it's new location but am a bit anal on understanding what it takes to accomplish a job so, when the time comes, I know what questions to ask and what to expect when selecting a professional to do the quality of work I desire. My table was custom built by a local professional 20+ years ago and fortunately is still in business and can/will move the table at my convenience. If nothing else, the information in the videos reinforced many, if not all, of the points and advice I received from the tech with whom I'm working. All that said, a message to techs out there from my perspective, "these videos are helping your business, not hurting it".

  • @txproudproudamerican9474
    @txproudproudamerican9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks! The thing the techs who do this, who think you're giving away all their trade secrets, should understand, is that this video also teaches DIYs like me that somethings are always better to leave for the pros do it, and for me, this is one of them. I'm one of them who was going to do it myself but this video changed my mind. It also helped me since I'm looking at buying a used table, and how, if I notice any of the rubber is bad on the table, I can consider the price of a experienced person doing them for me into the price of what they're asking for the used table. Also, the critic helped to in a way you may not understand. By you going over what they complained about actually had you going over things I wouldn't have even thought about, but now understand, and you did a great job explain why. I'm going to subscribe because even if I don't look at any more of your videos I can at least show my appreciation that way.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was pretty much my thought process when making these videos. I knew there would be just as many people who would watch them and figure that it really isn't a good idea for them to do it themselves as what there are those who would do it themselves.
      The critics don't realize that the education aspect of these videos gives their customers a greater appreciation for what we do.
      Thank you for subscribing! I actually want to do some videos in the future where I review pool table accessories, cloth, and individual tables. The contributions will go a long way in making that possible!
      Thanks again!
      Doug

  • @Gary-wy3pz
    @Gary-wy3pz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who cares what people say. Unfortunately, when you go public, you get all sorts of commenters. Most you'll find are nit-picking just because they want to undermine you for helping people out. Keep doin' what you're doin' and let the crickets chirp. You do good work. I've been working on high end tables for ages and see nothing wrong with your methods.

  • @pauleyedwin6056
    @pauleyedwin6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work. Appreciate the knowledge you share.

  • @user-xq9eo1ku1t
    @user-xq9eo1ku1t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Info and very well presented. I appreciate the help. Keep the videos coming and for all the haters tell them to kick rocks!!

  • @RightOnJonCrane
    @RightOnJonCrane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right On! 👍 Thanks for a great video! I pay no attention to the negative comments. I don’t give those guys the time of day!
    Love your videos! 👏👏👏

  • @theodorhertervig9510
    @theodorhertervig9510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for being so indepth on the info, you are very clear in explaining how to do the work, thanks I'm renovating on my own in Iceland

  • @josephnomey6545
    @josephnomey6545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content and very articulate!!! Great job sir

  • @kurtishickey6778
    @kurtishickey6778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You, sir have a lot on knowledge about pool tables. I'm a semi retired machinist and very much appreciate what you are teaching. There is not enough information to try to attempt the job. However there is enough to to prevent a scammer from taking advantage of a homeowner. Esp around here where there isnt a pool table mechanic within 30 miles or so.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very much my pleasure to be of service! And thanks for the wonderful compliment!

    • @new2POOL208
      @new2POOL208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly!! I paid, 1,300$ a lot of money to have these two dudes come in and mess my table up. Only to watch his channel and read your comment. Now I know 😮😮😭 😭 😢😢

    • @new2POOL208
      @new2POOL208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CreativeRestorationsthis channel helped me redo what they messed up. They didn't even seal the slate

  • @TheMrGavacho
    @TheMrGavacho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for taking your time to make these videos, with them good explanations.. its very detailed and ive learned a lot from it, to be a beginner lol... honestly i dont think that guy with them bad comments deserves you to take your time and explain why you decide to use what you use, or judge whats going on without even knowing if you did do it or not.. he probably wont even see the video either way lol.. anyways awesome videos! Thanks for your help!

  • @anthonykeller5120
    @anthonykeller5120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a professional software engineer in a niche market segment. As a contractor I fully agree that the time and expertise I bring to a client is worth what I charge them. You bring a level of expertise and experience to the job that is worth what you charge. If I lived in New Orleans I would be knocking on your door (I live in the Philippines now). Great video, as I always wondered what it took to recover and re-rubber a table. I always thought (I’ve played for over 60 years) it was beyond my skill set, and now I know for sure I’m not going to attempt it.

  • @TheDicedrum
    @TheDicedrum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!! You answered my own question concerning the rubbers on my own table!!! You also answered another question I had " Could I do this myself?" The answer is absolutely not!!! Hahah

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the compliment.
      It isn't an impossible job for a "DIY-er". But, it does take some skill, determination, and patients.

  • @beyanhenson2767
    @beyanhenson2767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I find it very helpful and informative. I only wish I’d seen the disassemble video a year ago. I acquired an 1939 Saunier Wilhelm last year and we moved it completely intact. It does need leveling. I thought I would have to replace the felt to level it I now know otherwise. It had just been replaced not long before I got it. Looking forward to the leveling videos. Again thanks for the videos and hater’s are gonna hate.

  • @wajdbo369
    @wajdbo369 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't worry about people because people would never be happy not matter what you do so keep up the good work God bless you 🙏

  • @rich40701
    @rich40701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video, I have a 1964 CG I that has what I believe to be the original Brunswick Monarch super speed bumpers. They are still soft and you can still hit a five bank shot with them. I guess the old saying they don't make them like they use to goes for rubber too.

    • @chanceag84
      @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I believe they used pure rubber back then and they definitely last longer

  • @benny67565
    @benny67565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used an air die grinder on the last cushions I did a couple years ago, I wasn't sure if it would work but I was so disappointed how cutting with a knife came out so I tried it and it was so easy and came out so smooth and perfect. I also found out if you take the cloth out first on the featherstrip side first and just pull the cloth from the staples real fast most of the staples pop up so it makes pulling out the staples a lot faster and easier

  • @michaellissow543
    @michaellissow543 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. I found it informative as I am always inquisitive about things. Your critics profession is safe from loss of income. I would never attempt to do this job on my own even after seeing how it's done. It takes a certain amount of time and experience to develop a level of expertise to get the job done RIGHT. No, secrets-of-the-profession video will ever replace that.

  • @XavierHex
    @XavierHex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely right. If I didn’t see your how to move a pool table video I would’ve still moved it. Just the wrong way! Me plus 7 strong buddies 😂😂😂

  • @laneshiftsx9423
    @laneshiftsx9423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info

  • @roadshowautosports
    @roadshowautosports 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me! Me! Me! Thank you Doug! I was the one asking about the rubber bumpers!!!! Wow you made a whole video to answer it! Also, I have been working many hour days and has no time to check your videos again, now I learn you had COVID, oh my god! Really hope you’re doing well and so is your family!
    Thank you so much for all you do for others! Whenever you have time, let me know if you know a pool table brand called Foremost so I can order your cloths and bumpers accordingly.
    Get better!
    Edson

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell you the truth, I've never heard of that brand. I'll look into them though.
      We're doing quite well. It's been 5 months since we had Covid. Wasn't a big deal really. Not even as bad as a bad cold. Certainly not as bad as the flu. Thanks for your concern though!

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok. Just looked them up. I would stay away from it. I read an advertisement from 1967 where they say that they have a "honeycomb" playfield. This is a fancy way of saying "cardboard". Don't know which table of theirs you have. But, even the one that says that it's "marble or improved slate" says that it's a two piece construction. The whole top is one piece and the legs are a separate piece. Not good construction in either case.
      Check out the ad:
      www.wishbookweb.com/FB/1967_JCPenney_ChristmasCatalog/files/assets/basic-html/page-212.html#

    • @roadshowautosports
      @roadshowautosports 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CreativeRestorations thank you so much for the info! Mine is the $449 one :(
      It looks like a particle board when you look at it! I’d never thought it was like that! The little difference a real professional has over amateurs!!!! You can find info about it just based on catalogs and memory while I’ve had over 30 years of computer repair and training and look all over the Internet coming out empty nabbed lol!!! Thank you so very much for it! Now I’m getting ready to re cloth it, change the rubber bumpers and still sell it for my cost using it as a learning tool. I’ve inherited another one that the family gave me the new rubber and a brand new Andy’s 988 cloth which is considered a similar cloth to Simonis, let’s see it. That one is an imperial brand, model Buchanan, what i was told is a decent table with 3 piece 1” slate and I’m restoring it! Wish I could send you pictures of the work that I wouldn’t be able to do it without your kindness. After the hurricane, i haven’t had much time to dedicate to learning as we are working like crazy here but always think of you guys. My financials are going pretty bad but I’m confident it will improve so I’ll be able to help you out as well as other TH-cam content creators who helped me too.
      Thank you very much!

  • @timbomiller855
    @timbomiller855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Good info.

  • @armandmariusmolders3937
    @armandmariusmolders3937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx - great informations !!!

  • @rich6646
    @rich6646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So what you’re saying is… you inform your customers with the choices they have for materials, Cost, pluses & minuses and recommendations.
    Then let them choose?
    Sounds exactly how I sell Marine Canvas jobs.
    I’ve found that great information sells jobs. Excellent workmanship creates word of mouth and repeat customers.
    Thank you for the lesson. I’m planning on helping out a group of MC friends reupholster their clubhouse table.
    Saving their Motorcycle Club money. So they can give more to local charities.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! It makes me happy that you guys are paying it forward like that! Thank you!

  • @Suzukii-DIY
    @Suzukii-DIY ปีที่แล้ว

    This just popped up on my things to watch for you too. Thanks for your video on the "How To's". I know this is 2 years late but I hate it when keyboard thugs feel their way is better. If they are so sure of what they are saying, like you said, they should have started their own TH-cam channels. And like someone previously said if a TH-cam video can put them out of business well, then they should have never been in business to begin with. I think you gave the haters way too much airtime. I find that the best way to Deal with those kind of whiney little 8!+ches is to never acknowledge them in the videos.or comments. Keep up the good work. Be well be healthy.

  • @jonathan.r.fierro8577
    @jonathan.r.fierro8577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes you may be helping people avoid paying the professional alot of money but you re also helping people decide if they're up to the challenge of doing it themselves or if they'd be better off just paying the money to have it done.

  • @chanceag84
    @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan here. Chance the pool table guy. Thank you for this shared knowledge.

  • @randallbaker5056
    @randallbaker5056 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your videos are great. There are some thing's i wouid do but others I won't I could, but I wouldn't your right I would feel better if a pro did it.good on you.

  • @mc2e100
    @mc2e100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @juanbatino2840
    @juanbatino2840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @douglasmichel6361
    @douglasmichel6361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I may, and this is not a critique of how you remove stables on rails. But if I may suggest, I take a razor and slice the cloth on the underside (the angle) part of the rail about 1/2" down from nosing. Then just rip the cloth and staples off in one swoop. Yeah some staples may go flying and some may remain for picking, but for he most part the stay within the cloth for easy tossing. I find it a bit quicker than picking them out. Like I said, I'm not criticizing just offering an alternate. Try it you may like it, Or maybe you have and don't . Anyway, Happy Recovering.

  • @benny67565
    @benny67565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am redoing a Gold Crown 1 right now and found out it has Goldtek cushions on it have you ever heard of them? thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @jefflarsen945
    @jefflarsen945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to do the rail rubber and felt. Myself I have got 860 Simonis cloth now. Can you do a Simonis re placement video the side pockets, the tension of the cloth.

  • @hungnguyenphankhanh3271
    @hungnguyenphankhanh3271 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Sir. Today I just installed a table myself. And I found a problem. After firmly or easy or even just a roll of cue ball into the rail. The ball was hopping back. May I know what is the problem is? Thank you so much

  • @avolution33pr2
    @avolution33pr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I will give you another solid installer tip for trimming the ends of the new rubber...not that your angle grinder doesn't work well...I use my Olfa 18mm utility knife with a brand new blade...the black ones are sharper than the silver ones...dip the blade into a glass of water before you make your cut and cut from the bottom to the top along your marked lines and your cuts will be so clean you can save the grinder step...i even add a little liquid soap to the water for some extra slippery knife action...try it next time Doug...you will thank me...and screw the haters Doug...if their business as table mechanics can be eliminated by youtube videos then we are all finished...lol...I stopped doing this as a day to day job 7 years ago and now I only do Simonis cloth on good tables for good players because they can tell the difference between adequate and perfect...also after doing thousands of tables I still learn things...I didnt watch your videos to be a critic...merely to see how you do it and maybe find something I didnt know before that could help...I havent been looking at the grain lines before but I will from here on out so I can avoid that sickening sound of wood tearing up with the old rubber.

    • @jriley7164
      @jriley7164 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a paint scraper with a sharpened edge to separate the rubber from the wood while im peeling it up 👍

  • @pauleyedwin6056
    @pauleyedwin6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t let the nay sayers get you down. The more you educate us the more likely we are to hire a professional. There afraid if you educate us they won’t be able to do shoddy work.

  • @stevenm6200
    @stevenm6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning, I’m about to replace my pool table rubber but I can’t quite figure out if it’s k55 or k66, it’s an American Eagle 9ft pool table, have you done work on this table before? If so what rubbers do you recommend. Thank you for the valuable info!

    • @chanceag84
      @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can remove the felt from the rails. Normally the name and type are on the rails. If you can't do that. Measuring the dimensions of the could do it but... Ive often had to reach out to other people in the billiard industry to find the right size rubber not all are common. Some aren't available at normal billiard suppliers. Particularity the man at classic billiards.

  • @tableroll1
    @tableroll1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. I like your videos. I have a Brunswick table Bought it in March of 1995. It is a Manchester model. What replacement rubber, what glue, and what size staples should I use. Thank you for taking the time. Keep up the good work!

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chances are, it's K66 rubber. However, there are other rubber profiles that Brunswick uses. I have a complete list of all the tools and supplies needed in the description above.

  • @JAHJAV
    @JAHJAV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What glue are you using for the cushions? Thx

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use Barge Cement. There's an Amazon link in the description above for it.

  • @texomatinker414
    @texomatinker414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't worry about the trolls, ignore them and stay on task. The videos are great except for the rants.

  • @THE_CHOAS_ENGINE
    @THE_CHOAS_ENGINE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so other than firmer rebound... what effect does that have on the pool game? Are you saying old tables tend to cause banks to tighten and shorten???

    • @chanceag84
      @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some old tables have superior rubber compared to others. Bad rubber causes the ball the "die". That would cause the ball to normally widen

  • @mrpoolplayer6379
    @mrpoolplayer6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used a few "Pool Table Mechanics" & they done a "job" on my rails. If I can design tools for 747s, I can install Pool Table Cushions on Rails

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's cool. I'm glad that you have that kind of confidence. However, I know doctors that do open heart surgery but can't tell you which is the business end of a screwdriver.

  • @RichD746
    @RichD746 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine spring back, but I still feel like they don’t bounce the right direction. I can go at a slight angle, and instead of following that angle off the bounce, sometimes it just comes right back the same angle. Very annoying.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can get your hands on some "Hot Wheels" track, you can make a ramp that you can roll the ball down consistently. Or, if you're handy with wood, you can make one.
      Point is, either will enable you to consistently roll the ball at an exact angle, at an exact speed, and with zero English on the ball. This is a much more precise way of testing rubber. But, the average table owner would never need that level of precision. More often than not, players impart some kind of spin on the ball when testing rubber without realizing it. So, if you want to make absolutely certain that you're giving the rubber a fair test, remove yourself from the equation.

  • @MrRobertBlack310
    @MrRobertBlack310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a table made by Beach Manufacturing. What would be flat out the best quality replacement rubber/shape. Thanks

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Artemis in K-66.
      I've installed a LOT of tables made by Beach Manufacturing. I still think they're one of the absolute best tables for the money!

    • @MrRobertBlack310
      @MrRobertBlack310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CreativeRestorations Thanks Doug. I watch all of your vids. Im an avid DIY'er and find them very helpful. Stay Safe!

  • @maryrine-marybel7118
    @maryrine-marybel7118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moved pool table now its unlevel felt buckled up. Help

  • @tech0024
    @tech0024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HI DOUG. I NEED HELP PLEASE! I was wondering if you can make a video on window rails are too bouncy. I'll see. lately. I've been noticing that most pool tables have bouncy rails, even when the cloud is slow. the rebound is almost twice as fast That is the inbound. I am an advanced pool player and have excellent Q Ball control. however. however, it is frustrating because on lots of straight in shots, if it just so happens to touch the rail, It will rebound off and wobble the pockets. Also on bank shots. They all come up short because the balls are kicking off. The rails too fast and are not absorbing the spin of the object ball. When I complain or talk about this to most people comma they don't understand and think i'm crazy, Because they don't know much about cuba control. Another instance is sometimes when you are trying to play a safe shot or defense, You try to roll the ball to the cushion.
    Extremely sextremely soft, but when it hit the cushion, it jumps out way farther than it should. It's like you have to baby all your shots. In order to control the cuba and not have it run loose around the table. Basically the balls are hopping. I have been told that This is the way the penguin company makes their rails. Can you please share some knowledge on that?

    • @tech0024
      @tech0024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please excuse the errors I was using voice recognition

  • @2502860
    @2502860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long does the rubber last

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That depends on what kind of conditions it's kept in and the chemical composition of the rubber itself. I've seen 2 year old rubber go bad. And, I've seen 60 year old rubber that was still as good as the day it was made.

  • @2502860
    @2502860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats the best rail rubber

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artemis is widely considered to be the absolute best rubber money can buy. However, unless you're a professional pool player, I doubt you'd notice much difference between it and Championship Tour Edition rubber.

  • @Kevin-ib4gv
    @Kevin-ib4gv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if it would help removing the rails, but have you ever considered using a heavy duty heat gun such as the Milwaukee to soften up the glue? I use it to soften up glue on other applications and it works great. Would probably be a slow process but almost guaranteed not to damage the wood, and the extra time spent you'd make up for on not repairing the damaged wood.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've tried just about everything. The heat gun would heat up the wood too much. Solvents are generally too aggressive and can eat at the finish.
      Usually, rubber comes off of the rails with no issues whatsoever. The problem is that some manufacturers don't (or didn't) bother to test the long-term effects of the adhesives they use. They should know that rubber will eventually have to be changed and should use a somewhat reversible glue. But, some (like Leisure Bay and a few others) didn't care. Once the rubber went bad, the table was already out of warranty. So, dealing with the glue they used was the customer's problem to deal with.
      Your better, more reputable, companies out there like Brunswick, Olhausen, Diamond, etc... use better rubber, better glues, and better woods. So, this problem is far less likely on those brands.

    • @Kevin-ib4gv
      @Kevin-ib4gv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CreativeRestorations I guess you just have to muscle it off, at least the cheaper tables I suppose. But the reason I saw your video was about replacing the rails. Is there any reliable "scientific" method of determining if the rails are not up to par? I have an Olhausen with Accu-Fast but they are probably 15+ years old and I'm wondering if I should replace them for better performance.

    • @chanceag84
      @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kevin-ib4gv accufast normally last quite awhile. But i have thought of a scientific test for your rubber. Build a small slope for the ball to roll off of. Measure an exact distance between the rail rubber nose and slope. Roll the same ball with the most accurately level ball you can find very important. Repeat the test on all diamonds measuring the distance the ball rolls after contact with rail. Take the slope and ball to a brand new olhausen with accufast rubber and compare the results.

    • @Kevin-ib4gv
      @Kevin-ib4gv ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a bad idea, but I wonder if the cloth will affect it much. I had some work done on my cue at the local billiard supply and asked if there was a scientific way to check cushions for wear. He said no, just roll the ball against the cushion and see if it comes back the same speed as it went in. I told him I have an Olhausen with Accufast cushions that was 7 years old. He says "I have an Olhausen with Accufast that's 35 years old, and the cushions work same as they did when new. You definately don't have a problem with those cushions." Good to know!

  • @williammajor7361
    @williammajor7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job Doug. Just ignore the critics. Remember the joy of the Lord is your strength.
    My question is how long does these bumpers last before you consider replacing them?

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rubbers last as long as they last. There is no set interval for how often to change them. I've seen 2 year old rubber that's gone bad and I've seen 80 year old rubber that's still as good as the day it was put on.

  • @saulocegueda6367
    @saulocegueda6367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much you charge for changing those on my table??

  • @flgators197
    @flgators197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What product do you use to re-attach rubbers

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out my video on how to replace the rubber on your pool table. It's in my video list.

    • @flgators197
      @flgators197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CreativeRestorations I actually found that video and ordered some after posting this. My apologies for not coming back to delete this

    • @chanceag84
      @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barge I think.

  • @kdrblade
    @kdrblade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a customer with a Legacy Billiards table and found the facings are horrable, let me know your thoughts.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't heard anything specific about Legacy Billiards. But, I can say that any manufacturer that uses too much sulfur in their rubber mix will end up with premature dry rot.

  • @littlejonoutdoors5060
    @littlejonoutdoors5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I picked up a no-name table for free. I took it since it had a slate top. The rails really feel good all the way around but one head rail has a pretty good check in it. The felt was cut as well as the rubber. I'm picky enough with my game that I want to replace that rubber to prevent strange bounce. My question is, do I need to replace the rubber all the way around? If so, How do I find rubber for a no-name table? The only identifying mark is on the old rubber themselves. (AMF)

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rubber should always be replaced in sets. If one is bad, replace them all. That way, they will all play the same. And, if the rubber is marked "AMF", chances are, that's an AMF table. They made quite a few tables back in the 90's that they didn't put their name brand on.

    • @littlejonoutdoors5060
      @littlejonoutdoors5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CreativeRestorations Thanks so much for the reply. Despite all my efforts I still can't find any versions online, AMF or otherwise, that resembles my table. All AMF tables I find are solid wood and mine is not at all. Either way, I assume any K66 profile rubber will do?

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. K-66 is K-66.

  • @NjoyMoney
    @NjoyMoney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never ever get worked up over a random youtube comment, its absolutly not worth it, he just stole a bunch of your time in this video + just thinking about it, not worth it 🙏

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't reply to them any more. I already know, it's other pool table movers leaving the down votes. They think my videos are a threat to their business. I take their down votes as a sign that I'm doing something right by putting out these videos.
      "Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!"

    • @chanceag84
      @chanceag84 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its good content though and got you to reply.

  • @WilliamCurry-bh3dk
    @WilliamCurry-bh3dk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HOW OFTEN do you replace the rubber

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It isn't done on a time interval. It's done when the rubber either goes hard, soft, or when you feel as though it isn't preforming as it should.

    • @WilliamCurry-bh3dk
      @WilliamCurry-bh3dk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CreativeRestorations ok time to find a pool table guru

  • @przemysawzotowski6324
    @przemysawzotowski6324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Rubber from Flinstones....

  • @txproudproudamerican9474
    @txproudproudamerican9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there any way to make a one time contribution without becoming a patron? I don't believe I'll be watching other videos you come out with, but would like to show my thanks for the one I did watch, and it helped me out a lot. I'd like to make a one time donation or contribution, or whatever it's called.

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure!
      You can send a "Friends and Family" transfer through PayPal. Just send it to:
      doug@imperialaroccia.com
      VERY much appreciated!

  • @WilliamCurry-bh3dk
    @WilliamCurry-bh3dk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what causes rubber get hard ???

    • @CreativeRestorations
      @CreativeRestorations  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are a few factors. Age, sulfur content in the rubber, temperature swings, humidity swings. Biggest reason is UV light. So, cover your table well when not in use!

  • @ozarkliving7263
    @ozarkliving7263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New subscriber, love your videos and sure wish you were in Branson, MO. A ton of used pool table choices, I’d love your buying, moving and restoration expertise

  • @user-cy9cm3rb9u
    @user-cy9cm3rb9u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!