@@ch.7785 Tanya would never break the law. But grey areas might as well be white as far as she's concerned. I love how in the novel they put the Colonel over her in official documentation to hide his place as a staff officer and she is secretly elated because it means she isn't the one in charge at the eventual Nuremberg trials.
Yep. Having read the LN's, it's her opinion that breaking laws just means you're an idiot, but it's your duty as a free citizen to find as many loopholes as possible, so you can interpret the laws however you want
If you watched the Anime then you should know that SHe is a HE in a child Body and over 30 years old... I love when people comenting without thinking :C
@@ikko93 you understand he's still a kid in that world right? And his past background does not matter in their current setting? I love it when people comment without thinking lol
That is Lawful Evil. Read up the alignments. CN would carpet bomb the whole town. She would do a dive run and a barrel roll while having grenades loose on her belts and look where they land. She adhered to the rules and used them to her own benefit. This is the most lawful evil that can be.
@@lukasj.navarro9163 What? She warned them and given her reputation as "the devil of the Rhine". They should've known the empire has a young girl in their army...
"That should be a breach of wartime laws! They purposefully made it seem like a little girl was talking in order to make us think that it wasn't real!" "It was a little girl talking." "Wat?"
@@Perlogher I think there were rules against child soldiers during WW1, and the Conscription age was 18-19. Let me know if you find anything different.
Imperial law required that all new mages serve several years in the Reich Mage Corps upon graduation. No one ever dreamed an insanely powerful prodigy would graduate from the mage academy at the age of 9 "Ordnung muss sein".🤯
@@Somewhat-Evil Well to be clear on the mage draft: everyone regardless of age or sex, if they have the inherent talent for magic, they will be conscripted. Visha is a conscript mage rather than a draftee. Difference being is that conscripts don't ever apply to be soldiers, they just become one when the army needs more bodies for the pyre.
Tanya would survive agaist eldar?, yes, T'au?, yes, Tyranids?, no, Tyranids are the only ones that i see as a real problem, they dont have complex strategys and dont give you that much time to react if they are on fleets, now, genes take years to try something, so Tanya could win agaist Genes to. Nekrons?, i have no clue, cuz, considering how Tanya is, one way to put all her powers would be that Tanya learned how to use Nekron tech and living metal, so she can fly, change the type of ammo and have more power deppending on her will, also she is a psyker, but very strong, ala Malkador style. Probably she would be from some paradise world, but wanting to serve the imperial army at all cost and having her potential noticed quickly, but, there are 2 possible ways depending on the imperial phase. If Guiliman is already alive again and dont need the armor, etc...So she should be noticed for the oficials quickly and become a important figure, *oooor* if the lords of earth are a thing yet, them, they would want some loli ass and dont let Tanya left one of them never, like she was some type of personal guard and general to do contingency with the minotaurs.
Something that's hidden behind Tanya's cynical, calculated evil: None of her subordinates, not even the seemingly cute and kind 2nd lieutenant Viktoriya Serebryakov, ever question what she's about to do, only how to do it. Viktoriya didn't care about bombing a factory in the middle of a city, her issue was with giving them a chance to evacuate and take important stuff from the factory. When they attack the civilians of a city with the flimsy technical excuse that they were warned and therefore any that remained did so willingly and could be classified as enemy combatants, Viktoriya comforts one of her comrades telling him that it's OK because they followed their leader and she followed the rules. The only character in the Empire's military that ever questions her on moral grounds, Lt. colonel Erich von Rerugen, eventually comes around to her way of thinking.
I was thinking that same thing, like no one even questioned or secretly doubted her decisions. They all happily slaughtered like everyone behind her orders. The thought was brief while I was watching it, but it still amazed me. She says "kill them all" and they raise their guns and fire. I was especially pleased that the innocent looking girl was actually against letting the people leave. The whole thing is amazing at this point. Tanya deserves to be at the top fr
Something that usually slips the attention of watchers is that Tanya has indeed committed no crimes in Arene, it was all on Republicans. It was they who initiated combat in the city and it was therefore their duty to provide the civilians with a way out. That proclamation that Tanya did first thing after arrival? It was what the Republican troops were obligated to do from the start. Except they shat on their duty under international law: first when they captured the city, second when they opened fire on Tanya's troops using residential buildings as cover, and third, when they ignored Tanya's request to send the commanding officer for negotiations about civilians' evac. Only when they were beaten they "suddenly" remembered about the civilians and lined up right in front of them. That looked like they were protecting them, but modern international law has another name for this tactic, and it's using civilians as shields. And they still didn't make even an attempt to communicate with the Imperials about this evacuation. Oh, and they also executed unarmed prisoners and used places of worship as staging ground and a cover from enemy fire - either of these is also very much a war crime in YS universe. They were basically terrorists at this point, and indulging them in any way would only result in numerous other towns becoming Arenes as well. Anime does a really good job of obscuring these details because it's trying to show the "evil Tanya", but manga in particular shows explicitly how the Allied officers collectively decided to just collectively forget about Arene since all the evidence they had showed that their troops were the obvious criminals in that situation.
@@Eleyvie Except in the anime they took back the city by a combined air assault and a small scale popular uprising. They don't have any real way of evacuating the civilians outside of just sending them out into the countryside filled with soldiers that would shoot them on sight, so they need the troops with them to protect them, additionally those evacuations started the moment Imperial troops started nearing the city already. However, you don't seem to get that such things take hours to organize even in the best of situations, let alone in a city in the middle of enemy territory that is about to turn into a battlefield. They don't send a commanding officer over because by this point the devil of the rhine has made it blatantly clear that she doesn't follow the rules of war, and would thus probably just shoot said officer the moment he arrives to speak with her.
@@wouterkessel4852 The idea that imperial soldiers would shoot evacuating civilians on sight is new, did anything happen before that would validate this claim? Not to mention that the republicans didn't even *try* to contact the imperials to arrange for the evacuation. Overall, it sounds like "our enemies are monsters, so we'll commit war crimes first, and pin the blame on them because it's them being monsters that forced us to do that!". And what does it matter how the city was taken? The laws of war in Tanyaverse are pretty clear on this: the republicans initiated combat in the city, so it's their duty to consider the civilian lives.
@@pedrogomez7966 or it just mean the Draft age got lowered...as well as age of consent.... or they do what hitler did...set up "Hitler Youth" which is basically under the SS and was an auxiliary force during the war.
or just get a pro va who is good with loli voices. on a different note knowing that the same actress played alpha bible hugger in ghost stories always makes me smile
I remember the first time I saw this scene I went through so many emotions. First shock from hearing Tanya’s little girl voice. Then confusion wondering why she was doing that. Then joy as I remembered that this is the devil in a little girls body, and a large amount of corpses was about to materialize before being incinerate in a glorious secondary explosion
The little girl's voice is actually Tanya Von Degurechaff's real one. The one you hear during the majority of the anime is the one that she forces herself to do so that she sounds more warrior-like. The clip misses out a tiny yet important detail - what Lieutenant Weiss asks her about her "stage career".
They get away with “nobody saw it so it’s not a war crime” and “ we won so it’s not a war crime” and “we won, so we totally didn’t do those things that are war crimes that we did.”
Oh Tanya, making the Kaiser proud I see! Such a good girl for obeying International Wartime laws, wouldn't want to be the ones viewed as breaking them, now would we?
@@clothar23 I’m going to assume you mean WW1 as the show is based around WW1 and the previous Commenter used the Word Kaiser and you Imperial Germany. I want to remind you that the Geneva Protocol (Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare) was signed in 1925 way AFTER WW1 already ended.
@@nightfallzero3752 The Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 explicitly banned poison gas, and was signed by Germany, who used it against other signatories, so it's use was still a war crime. In fact, most of what people consider coming from the Geneva Convention actually comes from the Hague Conventions, which were themselves built upon the Geneva Convention of 1864.
Psychological warfare: When a child-soldier agrees with her teen subordinate that sending a threat by a teen isn't the best way to go and does it herself using a voice to make her sound even younger!!! Beautiful!
This is also an important moment b/c this is the first time Tanya really calls them *her* battalion. Before she really didn't want this job but now she's come to accept it and them.
According to Earth's laws, Obi-Wan and Anakin are war criminals. However, we don't know if these laws existed a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
Tanya is the only isekai protagnist who would study the law so much that she writes a document about "How to commit War Crimes by bypassing the international law."
I think she literally writes that in the story and submits it to the general staff. Of note was all of the specifics for how to get around the rules around urban warfare and civilians in order to reduce the usefulness of urban centers as strong defensive positions.
It’s a munitions factory being operated by non-combatant civilians. The building is a valid military target but the workers are not. Under the international wartime laws of Tanya’s universe, non-com civilians are not to be deliberately targeted with lethal force and must be warned so that they can vacate the combat zone before they are put in danger. A civilian that receives a warning yet remains where they are is seen as at fault should they be injured or killed, absolving the attackers of guilt in the legal sense. Tanya initially asked Weiss to deliver the warning as it would be taken more seriously. Her subordinates insisted she give the warning instead as the highest-ranked officer and she misread their intentions and decided to ham it up to boost the morale of her troops. The law as written does not protect non-com civilians in this case since they did receive an explicit warning. Even if Tanya has the voice of a child, the factory workers should have found it suspicious that a little girl with a presumably heavy accent from the central Empire but speaks coherent (even with the lisp and childish phrasing she was adding) Dacian has gotten access to their intercom. A bomb threat is still a bomb threat even if a child calls it in. If I remember correctly, in the light novel they are given enough time to evacuate before the attack but chose not to, while the timing is more ambiguous in the animé.
He made a manga called baikoku kikan Queen of the opera and yes German way of unification and democracy BUT before democracy and after WW2. Basically 'Welcome to duetchland' but in anime and kind a technically patriot in a way that is against communism and foreign influence she is technically helping her people and her citizens KIND A pls germany hurry up and elect ur chancellor
That was still following the law, because Tanya gave them MANY chances to surrender or evacuate, but because they didn’t, EVERYONE in the city can be labeled a combatant regardless of physical and combat prowess. This is explained in the LN and manga but, for whatever reason, was cut from the anime.
@@endyender1703 Then there's also the british alliance trying to record the Empire's circumvention but they also captured the "Militias" violation and so decided not to release it.
@@lello2031 She quite obviously used the kid voice to make them laugh it off. If it wasn't the plan, she'd have just done it in her usual tone and speech style. Which she returns to immediately after the "warning."
Love the sound design in this series. The explosions are ear porn, but the little details like the echo in Tanya's voice when the camera pulls out and she shouts fire are so engrossing.
I think Tanya is a high-functioning psychopath for these reasons: -In her previous life (and if we take into consideration the LN, in which his boss told him to be wary of the people he fired), he failed to understand the concern for his life, as he could not put himself in the ex-worker's place and understand angry/fearful people can commit crazy acts; -Even though she does start to let her soldiers help and she herself works in team with them, I think it's more of a "I must be loyal thing", not "I want to be loyal", as psychopaths, when they are aware of their limitations, use connections to people in order to get around those limits. In other words, it's like a contract. They protect her. And like the system demands, she protects them; -Also, in the LN, she admits in her previous life, her friends were people she found interesting because of common interests, but little else. And apparently, his grades were quite low. This last one might not look important, but it is proved psychopaths have just as much, if not more, difficulties in academical intelligence, which was a major factor that lead him to choose her previous career. Yes, I know psychopaths usually see themselves above the system, but we can't forget they're also humans. Depending on the person, their interpretations of superiority can be widely diverse. Yes, I am aware she can often explain her reasoning and understand the system, but we've seen she does try to find loopholes every now and then without outright disobeying the rules. -Finally, in the way she fights, even though there's a certain pleasure to it (probably because of the adrenaline of the moment or something), she's very organized and can manage her impulses to work on her favor. I believe psychopaths often train themselves to use their flaws as weapons that they can keep under control. But of course, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree and present counter arguments.
I mean, I think she would agree that she's a psychopath. Being X saw no reason to grant a reincarnation, except for the possibility of getting a sinner to convert. A normal person might've had some glimmer of faith in their soul, even if they would have had to admit they were wrong about atheism. Plus, I theorize that since Tanyaverse Germany isn't evil from what we the anime audience know, Being X probably saw a perfect champion to give them a fighting chance: a tactically clever psycho who follows rules and is only concerned with getting a cushy desk job someday. I'm curious about your opinion of the mad scientist who converted, as his reaction to God speaking to him was a direct foil to Tanya's reaction. To refresh your memory, Being X was going to bless Tanya with a miracle, which she rejected rudely. The then-atheist mad scientist received a message from God in a dream, giving him inspiration to try his Type-95 project one last time. After it miraculously worked, the mad scientist became an adamant believer while Tanya now has to pray every time she wants to use the Type-95 as a form of mental conditioning from Being X. Later on, I think the scientist was the one talking about the world war in a church, and while his observations were similar to Tanya's they came from a place of faith, unlike hers. I think the mad scientist is meant to show how someone crazy, clever, and stubborn would typically respond to a manifestation of a higher power. This may align with your theory about Tanya being a high-functioning psychopath, if her atypical response can be explained using the symptoms of being a psychopath.
@@jonquilgemstone now that you talked about the scientist...I remember that on the church's window, she appeared to be represented as an archangel who came down to the world to deliver God's justice (which is the exact opposite of what she wants). Personally, I don't judge the scientist for falling for Being X's tricks. After all, gratitude is a hell of a drug. Though, I also recall him saying he feels lost, and you would expect a priest to feel fulfilled. So, all of these factors make me wonder. Why do you think there's an angelic like figure resembling Tanya ? Do you think that's really how Being X started to see her like ? Or, do you think that was whatever it was left of the Empire trying to honor her memory ?
@@JabamiLain Good question! I think Being X essentially killed two birds with one stone by simultaneously punishing Tanya and giving the Empire (which was the one initially being invaded in this universe) the champion it needed. Tanya, much like a real 'demon', wants to rebel against 'God' but can't help falling right into his plans anyway. The Empire probably never finds out Tanya truly does mean it when she insults God, because to use the Type 95 she has to pray aloud in battle. And she lived in a nunnery as an orphan, and she spends time in churches alone. Also, I took the scientist's "I'm still lost" as a sign that he grew in humility, acknowledging that he isn't perfect and doesn't know everything. A lot of old religious people would say they are still learning/lost because that's what often happens when a person gets more self-aware. All in all, I think Being X used Tanya for a greater good while also trying to destroy her pride. Everything I mentioned probably led to people thinking Tanya was some kind of saint in the making, or even an angel of death fighting for justice. The issue of Tanya not believing in God doesn't appear to fall in line with her usual values, since the 'free will' part of her values already answers the existence of evil, and the 'following rules and 'getting a peaceful retirement' aspects of her beliefs would imply she should follow God's rules for a better afterlife. So, the issue of her disbelief seems, to me, to actually boil down to her being extremely prideful. Thus, it would still make sense for a benevolent God to put every measure into making her convert in this final reincarnation, since her lack of belief is a symptom of a truly hopeless soul bound for damnation. And free will would mean that if Tanya doesn't convert, she'll probably choose Hell before accepting God and Heaven for eternity. This is assuming there is an afterlife after the reincarnations end, which I think is plausible by the fact Being X assessed Tanya before deciding whether or not it was worth reincarnating her. Now, whether Being X is actually God or not, is something I somehow don't think the series will ever answer. Regardless, I can't bring myself to think of Being X as truly evil yet, since the determination to break Tanya's pride still has a very plausible explanation. However, there is one thing I noticed in Being X's introduction scene: he implied it was beyond his capacity to tend to EVERY human being and their suffering. Being X also had to have a conversation with Tanya before determining there was hope if given one more life to believe. Even then, that approach working seems to be more of a bet on Being X's part than a certainty. If God is omnipotent in this setting, just one of these factors alone should automatically disqualify Being X as God...but since Christianity is not the primary religion in Japan, the idea of a truly unlimited and all-knowing God might not even be something the creator would fully grasp. Not to mention, the whole point of such a concept of divinity is its unfathomable nature; thus, it would be difficult or even impossible to replicate it in fiction. So Being X COULD be the real God in this fictional universe... Still, theorizing is only fun if we scour all possibilities, right? So, what would Being X be, if not God? After all, Being X can reincarnate people. Well, a possible explanation would be that Being X is able to essentially transfer people to different bodies *right before* they die, so they technically aren't dead when reincarnating until Being X lets them die for real. But why? Well, maybe Being X is some kind of demon, or even a powerful being who is widely acknowledged as a deity. We never see any other religions portrayed, except for one more: Christianity. In the previous world (presumably ours), we know all the religions existing, but in the scene we only see people wearing crosses while the characters talk about faith. In the next world, where Tanya is born as Tanya, we see priests, nuns, and churches...but there's a major difference. Instead of a crucifix or a tabernacle or even a bare cross, we see an angelic-looking figure which seems to represent Being X. Since the Christian God is never shown as an angel, it is possible the crosses and similarities to Christian aesthetic could be intentionally misleading as to whose--and therefore, what type--of God Being X is claiming to be. Being X specifically cites Earth's population of 7 billion during his introductory scene, but we see him much more involved in that other world which Tanya is born in. Presumably, that world already existed. So, what if Being X was already being worshipped so predominantly in worlds like that one, he simply refers to himself as God? What if he recently gained our world as territory and is starting to make his presence known in it, too? The fact we only see one religion in Tanya's world, but the story begins in our world which has multiple religions, would imply that Being X was involved there and was only now getting involved in our world at the story's beginning. But then, the question is...IS Being X the real God, even if he's not the Christian God his worshippers' aesthetic looks like? Tanya alludes to "the Father and the Son" in one of her muttered prayers for battle, but Tanya also references other things from our world which the other characters don't recognize. This implies we shouldn't take for granted that everything Tanya says exists in that world. So, Being X's followers might not even believe in a Trinity. This is reinforced by the fact Being X is portrayed by that angelic-looking statue, and the Tanya-based seraph takes the place typical of the Dove and tongues of fire used to portray the Holy Spirit. So again I ask: Is Being really supposed to represent the Christian God, or were those crosses in the train scene intentionally misleading? If the latter, then who is he? The real and only God? Or one of multiple gods? Or the Devil in disguise? Oh, but if any demon, then why get a prideful atheist to convert if he'd already be damned anyway? Would he be some type of Japanese demon? Or an extraterrestrial? What are your thoughts on the matter of who Being X is?
@@jonquilgemstone after reading your text...I don't think Being X is a demon, since demons value unrestrained freedom, which is the exact opposite of the deity's intentions. Regarding the alien part...it could be that. There are scientific theories in the real world claiming that there is a stage in evolution in which a species becomes capable of manipulating the very fabric of reality, and those who believe in that theory say the being we perceive as God may actually be part of a race who already went throught that proccess, with us being the creatures' children. Also, I actually think Tanya's world was created in a timeline AFTER our world's own end. You know, like a do over. Improve on your project. But...if Being X wants Tanya to convert this badly and wants her to be the Empire's champion, then why choose this mad dog called Mary Sue as her own champion ? She certainly doesn't do a good job in selling "Join Being X's religion !" shirts. I know I wouldn't have chosen her. She's even worse than Tanya. Way more sinful. She's hypocrite, controlled by wrath and vengeance...
@@jonquilgemstone hello again. Hey, have you already read this crossover between "Youjo Senki" and "The Last Airbander" (series) ? It's REALLY good ! It's only at the begining, but so far, it's incredibly well written and the characters correspond to their canon counterparts. It's called "Tanya the Firebender".
It’s only a war crime if it was committed by the side that lost. I mean America cries about Pearl Harbor but they act like they did nothing wrong when you bring up how they basically used an experimental weapon on 2 major CIVILIAN cities.
@@brandragoon9274 Because using nukes is not a war crime. Or to be more precise there's no provision for nuclear weapon for it to be a war crime. Pearl was a war crime because they started hostilities without declaring war first. Killing POWs and civilians in occupied territories is a war crime, while wiping out an entire city owned and held by your enemy is not. Hiroshima is not just a civilian city. It's a city with a military base which makes it a valid target. Nagasaki has a port If you read the geneva convention you'd realize it really very little is about civilians and their protection and can easily be both abused and loopholed. Why do you think Japan didn't evacuate their urban centers prior to air raids (and not just nukes)? That's right the civilians you are bleeding your heart out are nothing more than meat shields for the people on their side. You want to complain abut a-bombing Japan, blame Japanese government. They were given a chance to accept Allied terms of surrender before dropping the bomb.
@@genghiskhan5701 nope, even after the war the government was secretive of Tanya and her real age, and many of the people who knew her refused to comment on her. In fact her entire unit was basically scrubbed from history except in small notes, an considering the mortality rate of anyone who found themselves in her path, with what like 3 people surviving and 2 of them being driven insane by the sheer horror of having to watch their comrades be literally ripped apart by a 10 year old. She was also exceptionally young for being a mage even though mages were forced in at a young age they were still normally wait until they had reached their teenage years(as evidenced by literally every other fresh recruit mage)
I remember when I first saw this scene. I’d grown so used to Tanya’s gruff manner of speech that this was so out of left field, I couldn’t help but completely lose my shit and burst out in hysterical laughter. Now I really wanna rewatch Youjo Senki. I also need to get the Light Novels.
I love the anime here. You hear Tanya's voice so cute. But the manga is better in how they formed the magic spell and also waited for thirty minutes before firing. Also how the crew didn't want to lose the element of surprise and only Tanya wanted to follow it by the laws. And follow everything by the book. Which is funnier because earlier that day she was getting mad at one of her crewmen for pulling away from a fight because that is what their book on war teaches.
I really try to read the manga, but the illustrations of soldiers as pigs really destroy the immersion of the story, the anime is way more realistic with the depiction of war, even with the magic in it.
@@TheKeyser94 Yeah sure for the most part anime depicted the fighting scenes better than in the manga, but regarding depicting the war strategies, informations, and inner dialogues the manga is far better. It wasn't as if the manga is full of war soldiers depicted as pigs, it's only at least like 5% of the manga majority were depicted well. Besides, the anime skipped and changed the story quite a bit so both had its flaws. Also, I liked the characters art in the manga far better than in the anime.
@@sharmilathube923 in the manga each country had an animal motif, french were pigs, germany wolves and british lions and i forget the others. haven't read that far yet but i would think the pigs would turn into boars later on after the port incident
"I may be a monster, but even I follow wartime laws." *proceeds to use a child voice to announce attack* "What? I said I follow wartime laws. I didn't say if I followed the spirit or the letter."
The entire anime showed they DID follow the law. The Enemy just either didn't believe them or was too stubborn to surrender. I mean in the Trial of Fire episode WHAT DID THEY EXPECT keeping children with them.
The one of many stuffs about this anime that impressed me was the sounds of explosions, I thought speaker of my device won't survive before the end of season
@@Quint_69 Japan has what some would consider an unhealthy obsession with pre-pubescent youth, especially females; this is exploited in their entertainment industry by having women who are of legal age act like they're kids, both in live-action and in anime; basically she just did the female version of falsetto
The VA's in Japan do a lot of training and go through tough selections in order to make it as VA's since the voice acting market is very competitive there. They are on a whole another level comparing to VA's from other countries, which are generally amateurish or just ppl that happened to "fall" into this job. This particular VA is talented, but most Japan professionals would be able to ace a child/elderly voice as it is almost required that they have large ranges.
Tanya says that she hates the front, and want to the in the rearguard, but always when she in combat or doing something absolutely ruthless, you can hear the glee in her voice.
Just imagine if and when tanya switches to the Allied side along with her Kampfgruppe (or just the 203rd since they're loyal) and she's the one in charge of the trials- oh a lot of brown pants will be seen
She didn't commit a war crime here. She, the commanding officer, gave fair and legal warning of the attack, and only attacked the facility, then left. The child soldier question wouldn't be on her, but on whoever approved her recruitment. Though considering her magical talent I would think it wouldn't be an issue really.
@@math9172 nowhere, but it would be logical. You are in the radio booth and hear a child's voice threatening with death. If the child isn't in there by you, it ain't some prank.
Funny enough, that sorta happened in one of the manga pages. Some dude woke up after the Norden bomber take down and started screaming while remembering the screams of his companions and the causal conversation Tanya's people were having while killing them.
I was so surprised how much I loved this anime. Seriously. Tanya literally just wants to live a quiet easy life. Like getting promoted and doing paperwork. She's dedicated to whatever she does, by whatever means. And she IS EVIL, make no mistake. This is not even about some anti-hero, this is about how the bad guy thinks. It's about how everything is justified, and how people she is fighting against and beside have to figure out what they are doing, i.e. war and slaughter, and how it can possibly correlate with their ethics and morals, all while struggling against nationalist pride.
She's not evil though. Yeah she's got a severely twisted mentality, but a lot of it is a direct result of the situation she's been thrust into. There's a lot of background that the anime didn't adequately adapt from the source material, such as the mental corruption from using the Type 95 Computation Orb, and a lot of the events were glossed over/simplified for the anime production.
I see a bunch of comments ranging from "aw so cute o noh bomba" to "you see this is smart bc light novel says". This isn't a war crime by written law. The offensive party engaged their target after signaling to the involved party(ies) that they were about to strike. The defense didn't listen, and thus cannot persecute a foreign officer for complying with international warfare agreements. The difference between adaptation of the source media is tangential.
I can imagine someone would actually use that Fiverr coupon to hire a VA to read those specific line in child voice and play them over the radio before starting the war. =3=
![Tanya Degurechaff l This what will happen when you disobey orders l [ ZAKINARU CHANNEL ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/d4tE10rrsPs/mqdefault.jpg)
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“Technically not a war crime” tends to be a recurring theme in this show
Iirc in the LN tanya was all about:
"Well wartime law must be abided but if there are loopholes around it why not"
@@ch.7785 Tanya would never break the law. But grey areas might as well be white as far as she's concerned. I love how in the novel they put the Colonel over her in official documentation to hide his place as a staff officer and she is secretly elated because it means she isn't the one in charge at the eventual Nuremberg trials.
Like every true paradox gamer-
Actually no never mind, paradox interactive gamers actively commit war crimes.
Laws are there to be abided.
Loopholes are there to be exploited.
@@jacevicki whats nuremerg? xD
Other isekais: "LeT'S maKe a HAreM"
Tanya : "let's go commit slaughter in the name of the fatherland"
Tanya wants to end the war, the harem comes after that
OUR father land
@@stevenbartel5008 That sweet sweet yuri harem.
@@EdenHeartfelt
Or a male harem for her... XD
You haremtards ruin based anime
"We're not barbarians who'd ignore wartime law , but we're genius trolls who find loopholes around em."
Yep. Having read the LN's, it's her opinion that breaking laws just means you're an idiot, but it's your duty as a free citizen to find as many loopholes as possible, so you can interpret the laws however you want
@@jackanddienesdivorcepapers5347 Can you speak English and try again?
@@LordVader1094 nine
@@jackanddienesdivorcepapers5347 I guess you cant speak germen either
@@RileyKipp yeah I was going to say damn it I can't even speak another language
The slogan of this anime: “no war crimes were committed in the making of this atrocity”
Just gotta slap a big old “technically” on the end.
LOL
Technically no war crimes were committed.
Technically.
The Arene incident is much much much worse then this one
@@ajamcan7264 Still no war crimes were committed. Technically speaking.
Geneva convention more like geneva suggestion
Its open to interpretation
Wait what are you me
They're more like guidelines than actual rules...
@@mq5731 they're only rules if you have a smaller army
It's not a war crime if you win the war
“We aren’t the kind of barbarians who’d ignore international wartime law.”
Says the literal child soldier
If you watched the Anime then you should know that SHe is a HE in a child Body and over 30 years old...
I love when people comenting without thinking :C
@@ikko93 Like you did?
@@redshadow7921 ooh burn
@@ikko93 you understand he's still a kid in that world right? And his past background does not matter in their current setting?
I love it when people comment without thinking lol
@@ikko93 you got owned 🤭
When someone asks me what Lawful Evil is, she is who I think of
Or chaotic neutral I think
João Brandão in this scene alone I think she is chaotic neutral
@@hotshotroom964 I mean, the show is call The Saga of Tanya the Evil, not The Saga of Tanya the Chaotic Neutral
Broseidonite
IN THIS SCENE ALONE
What can’t you fucking understand
That is Lawful Evil. Read up the alignments. CN would carpet bomb the whole town. She would do a dive run and a barrel roll while having grenades loose on her belts and look where they land. She adhered to the rules and used them to her own benefit. This is the most lawful evil that can be.
My little war criminal couldn't possibly be this cute.
She isn't a war criminal tho.
@@frozenheartedgiant8330 barely
@@lukasj.navarro9163
She broke no war time laws.
@@PerfectAlibi1 barely
@@lukasj.navarro9163
What? She warned them and given her reputation as "the devil of the Rhine". They should've known the empire has a young girl in their army...
"That should be a breach of wartime laws! They purposefully made it seem like a little girl was talking in order to make us think that it wasn't real!"
"It was a little girl talking."
"Wat?"
Technically, wouldn't the Imperials already be commiting a war crime by allowing Tanya to serve at her age?
@@MWilmott technically she volunteered herself.. and this is like way back so I don’t think there was a law of forbidding child soldiers in war
@@Perlogher I think there were rules against child soldiers during WW1, and the Conscription age was 18-19. Let me know if you find anything different.
Imperial law required that all new mages serve several years in the Reich Mage Corps upon graduation. No one ever dreamed an insanely powerful prodigy would graduate from the mage academy at the age of 9 "Ordnung muss sein".🤯
@@Somewhat-Evil Well to be clear on the mage draft: everyone regardless of age or sex, if they have the inherent talent for magic, they will be conscripted. Visha is a conscript mage rather than a draftee. Difference being is that conscripts don't ever apply to be soldiers, they just become one when the army needs more bodies for the pyre.
Tanya: "Sensei! We're going to bomb you, desu~☆"
Enemy troops: "Haha, oh nooo, she's gonna bomb us....."
Tanya: actually does it
Enemy troops: :o
More like
Enemy town: *surprised Pikachu face*
the "sensei" here doesn't mean what you think it means (or was it an intentional mistake from you lol ) :D
Yeah, I suspected lol
Wait, that's ilelgal
well, she say "sense" wich means "atention", but yee
"Have a kid's voice to make sure they don't believe your warning, THEN NUKE THEM HARD. "
-Sun Tzu Art Of War
Not the most accurate paraphrasing of "All warfare is based on deception" but it gets the point across
I have a feeling that Tanya is one of the few characters out there who might survive the Warhammer 40k universe.
I actually want to discuss that
also it'll be even more interesting if she was in the imperium since they all worship the god emperor
She'd make a cool commissar
I mean she literally gives out a watered down version of the death korp's training
Pretty sure Tanya would become a really good Inquisitor^^
Tanya would survive agaist eldar?, yes, T'au?, yes, Tyranids?, no, Tyranids are the only ones that i see as a real problem, they dont have complex strategys and dont give you that much time to react if they are on fleets, now, genes take years to try something, so Tanya could win agaist Genes to.
Nekrons?, i have no clue, cuz, considering how Tanya is, one way to put all her powers would be that Tanya learned how to use Nekron tech and living metal, so she can fly, change the type of ammo and have more power deppending on her will, also she is a psyker, but very strong, ala Malkador style.
Probably she would be from some paradise world, but wanting to serve the imperial army at all cost and having her potential noticed quickly, but, there are 2 possible ways depending on the imperial phase.
If Guiliman is already alive again and dont need the armor, etc...So she should be noticed for the oficials quickly and become a important figure, *oooor* if the lords of earth are a thing yet, them, they would want some loli ass and dont let Tanya left one of them never, like she was some type of personal guard and general to do contingency with the minotaurs.
Something that's hidden behind Tanya's cynical, calculated evil: None of her subordinates, not even the seemingly cute and kind 2nd lieutenant Viktoriya Serebryakov, ever question what she's about to do, only how to do it. Viktoriya didn't care about bombing a factory in the middle of a city, her issue was with giving them a chance to evacuate and take important stuff from the factory. When they attack the civilians of a city with the flimsy technical excuse that they were warned and therefore any that remained did so willingly and could be classified as enemy combatants, Viktoriya comforts one of her comrades telling him that it's OK because they followed their leader and she followed the rules. The only character in the Empire's military that ever questions her on moral grounds, Lt. colonel Erich von Rerugen, eventually comes around to her way of thinking.
Rerugen-senpai
I was thinking that same thing, like no one even questioned or secretly doubted her decisions. They all happily slaughtered like everyone behind her orders. The thought was brief while I was watching it, but it still amazed me. She says "kill them all" and they raise their guns and fire. I was especially pleased that the innocent looking girl was actually against letting the people leave. The whole thing is amazing at this point. Tanya deserves to be at the top fr
Something that usually slips the attention of watchers is that Tanya has indeed committed no crimes in Arene, it was all on Republicans. It was they who initiated combat in the city and it was therefore their duty to provide the civilians with a way out. That proclamation that Tanya did first thing after arrival? It was what the Republican troops were obligated to do from the start. Except they shat on their duty under international law: first when they captured the city, second when they opened fire on Tanya's troops using residential buildings as cover, and third, when they ignored Tanya's request to send the commanding officer for negotiations about civilians' evac. Only when they were beaten they "suddenly" remembered about the civilians and lined up right in front of them. That looked like they were protecting them, but modern international law has another name for this tactic, and it's using civilians as shields. And they still didn't make even an attempt to communicate with the Imperials about this evacuation.
Oh, and they also executed unarmed prisoners and used places of worship as staging ground and a cover from enemy fire - either of these is also very much a war crime in YS universe.
They were basically terrorists at this point, and indulging them in any way would only result in numerous other towns becoming Arenes as well.
Anime does a really good job of obscuring these details because it's trying to show the "evil Tanya", but manga in particular shows explicitly how the Allied officers collectively decided to just collectively forget about Arene since all the evidence they had showed that their troops were the obvious criminals in that situation.
@@Eleyvie Except in the anime they took back the city by a combined air assault and a small scale popular uprising. They don't have any real way of evacuating the civilians outside of just sending them out into the countryside filled with soldiers that would shoot them on sight, so they need the troops with them to protect them, additionally those evacuations started the moment Imperial troops started nearing the city already. However, you don't seem to get that such things take hours to organize even in the best of situations, let alone in a city in the middle of enemy territory that is about to turn into a battlefield. They don't send a commanding officer over because by this point the devil of the rhine has made it blatantly clear that she doesn't follow the rules of war, and would thus probably just shoot said officer the moment he arrives to speak with her.
@@wouterkessel4852 The idea that imperial soldiers would shoot evacuating civilians on sight is new, did anything happen before that would validate this claim? Not to mention that the republicans didn't even *try* to contact the imperials to arrange for the evacuation.
Overall, it sounds like "our enemies are monsters, so we'll commit war crimes first, and pin the blame on them because it's them being monsters that forced us to do that!".
And what does it matter how the city was taken? The laws of war in Tanyaverse are pretty clear on this: the republicans initiated combat in the city, so it's their duty to consider the civilian lives.
Playing by the rules does not equate being a good person:
The Show
Yep, Tanya is the very *essence* of Lawful Evil.
He fell for the english title change. Newsflash english speaking people missed the mark.
As an above comment said Tanya is the prime example of Lawful Evil
@@gibbysplendid3725 I hate when fanboys evil characters simply for being protagonists
"I'm gonna make the Geneva Convention look like a To-Do list."
The Geneva guidelines
Didn't exist yet.
Geneva -Convention- Suggestion.
Stfu and take my like
Other characters: Geneva Convention?
(they literally just act confused when she mentions stuff from the real world)
Does this mean i can use a kid to warn people before bombing them?
technically, yes, but that would imply that You use child soldiers
@@pedrogomez7966
or it just mean the Draft age got lowered...as well as age of consent....
or they do what hitler did...set up "Hitler Youth" which is basically under the SS and was an auxiliary force during the war.
or just get a pro va who is good with loli voices. on a different note knowing that the same actress played alpha bible hugger in ghost stories always makes me smile
@@gembocobo9484 Aoi Yuki wasn't even in Ghost Stories.
@@RinnosukeETQW lol imtalking about the glorious dub kiddo
I remember the first time I saw this scene I went through so many emotions. First shock from hearing Tanya’s little girl voice. Then confusion wondering why she was doing that. Then joy as I remembered that this is the devil in a little girls body, and a large amount of corpses was about to materialize before being incinerate in a glorious secondary explosion
The little girl's voice is actually Tanya Von Degurechaff's real one. The one you hear during the majority of the anime is the one that she forces herself to do so that she sounds more warrior-like. The clip misses out a tiny yet important detail - what Lieutenant Weiss asks her about her "stage career".
In all fairness, if combatants in the real world could get away with "technically not a war crime" they absolutely would.
I mean, they technically do.
They get away with “nobody saw it so it’s not a war crime” and “ we won so it’s not a war crime” and “we won, so we totally didn’t do those things that are war crimes that we did.”
the victor always gets away with war crimes
They do and it's not even because they try to .... It's called being on the "Winning side"
about that...
Oh Tanya, making the Kaiser proud I see!
Such a good girl for obeying International Wartime laws, wouldn't want to be the ones viewed as breaking them, now would we?
We're just going to ignore Imperial Germany using lethal gas first in the war.
Yes the French used gas first but they were just using tear gas.
@@clothar23 I’m going to assume you mean WW1 as the show is based around WW1 and the previous Commenter used the Word Kaiser and you Imperial Germany.
I want to remind you that the Geneva Protocol (Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare) was signed in 1925 way AFTER WW1 already ended.
@@clothar23 well there's no law around it, so why the hell not
@@nightfallzero3752 The Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 explicitly banned poison gas, and was signed by Germany, who used it against other signatories, so it's use was still a war crime. In fact, most of what people consider coming from the Geneva Convention actually comes from the Hague Conventions, which were themselves built upon the Geneva Convention of 1864.
@@bubbasbigblast8563 Of course, which the french violated first because Tear Gas is a "Asphyxiating or deleterious gas".
Ah yes, obey the letter of international law while breaking the spirit of it. I love this show
Psychological warfare: When a child-soldier agrees with her teen subordinate that sending a threat by a teen isn't the best way to go and does it herself using a voice to make her sound even younger!!!
Beautiful!
Her eyes being drawn bigger like regular child characters when talking like one is a nice touch
This is also an important moment b/c this is the first time Tanya really calls them *her* battalion. Before she really didn't want this job but now she's come to accept it and them.
"Laws were not made to be broken, but to be dodged"
Tanya should become better associated with Obi-wan and Anakin, they could compare notes regarding trolling and "not" committing war crimes.
Obi wan and Anakin are 100% war criminals
According to Earth's laws, Obi-Wan and Anakin are war criminals. However, we don't know if these laws existed a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
I can think of five separate instances that would probably qualify as perfidy between the two of them in TCW alone.
Imagine Grand Admiral Thrawn recruiting her....
@@HarmonyEdge Dude Palpatnie would adopt her.
Tanya is the only isekai protagnist who would study the law so much that she writes a document about "How to commit War Crimes by bypassing the international law."
I think she literally writes that in the story and submits it to the general staff. Of note was all of the specifics for how to get around the rules around urban warfare and civilians in order to reduce the usefulness of urban centers as strong defensive positions.
If you take a look at the light novel, she goes into full detail about how you can avoid this war crime as well
Seriously??
Can you tell me that? Asking for a friend...
this just made this scene better
It’s a munitions factory being operated by non-combatant civilians. The building is a valid military target but the workers are not. Under the international wartime laws of Tanya’s universe, non-com civilians are not to be deliberately targeted with lethal force and must be warned so that they can vacate the combat zone before they are put in danger. A civilian that receives a warning yet remains where they are is seen as at fault should they be injured or killed, absolving the attackers of guilt in the legal sense.
Tanya initially asked Weiss to deliver the warning as it would be taken more seriously. Her subordinates insisted she give the warning instead as the highest-ranked officer and she misread their intentions and decided to ham it up to boost the morale of her troops. The law as written does not protect non-com civilians in this case since they did receive an explicit warning.
Even if Tanya has the voice of a child, the factory workers should have found it suspicious that a little girl with a presumably heavy accent from the central Empire but speaks coherent (even with the lisp and childish phrasing she was adding) Dacian has gotten access to their intercom. A bomb threat is still a bomb threat even if a child calls it in. If I remember correctly, in the light novel they are given enough time to evacuate before the attack but chose not to, while the timing is more ambiguous in the animé.
@@stevelordofdarkness2340 Nice explanation, maybe should give the LN a read
This scene made me realise this guy was an absolute legend. I really hope they decide to make more of this one day.
He made a manga called baikoku kikan Queen of the opera and yes German way of unification and democracy BUT before democracy and after WW2. Basically 'Welcome to duetchland' but in anime and kind a technically patriot in a way that is against communism and foreign influence she is technically helping her people and her citizens KIND A
pls germany hurry up and elect ur chancellor
this is even funnier considering what she pulled in arene later in the series
YES.
That was still following the law, because Tanya gave them MANY chances to surrender or evacuate, but because they didn’t, EVERYONE in the city can be labeled a combatant regardless of physical and combat prowess. This is explained in the LN and manga but, for whatever reason, was cut from the anime.
@@endyender1703 Where did you read the light novel version?
@@coffeetoffee6589 Amazon
@@endyender1703 Then there's also the british alliance trying to record the Empire's circumvention but they also captured the "Militias" violation and so decided not to release it.
My eyes widen when hearing that innocent voice...then realized it was a plan to keep them there. Clever...and mad adorable.
That's not what the plan was. She literally did it as a formality and because she's the highest ranking member.
Otherwise she woulda got LT to do it.
@@lello2031 She quite obviously used the kid voice to make them laugh it off. If it wasn't the plan, she'd have just done it in her usual tone and speech style. Which she returns to immediately after the "warning."
Love the sound design in this series. The explosions are ear porn, but the little details like the echo in Tanya's voice when the camera pulls out and she shouts fire are so engrossing.
Yes!! How they edited the sound in the show was so great, especially during battles, they make it feel like you are actually there its amazing!
I think Tanya is a high-functioning psychopath for these reasons:
-In her previous life (and if we take into consideration the LN, in which his boss told him to be wary of the people he fired), he failed to understand the concern for his life, as he could not put himself in the ex-worker's place and understand angry/fearful people can commit crazy acts;
-Even though she does start to let her soldiers help and she herself works in team with them, I think it's more of a "I must be loyal thing", not "I want to be loyal", as psychopaths, when they are aware of their limitations, use connections to people in order to get around those limits. In other words, it's like a contract. They protect her. And like the system demands, she protects them;
-Also, in the LN, she admits in her previous life, her friends were people she found interesting because of common interests, but little else. And apparently, his grades were quite low. This last one might not look important, but it is proved psychopaths have just as much, if not more, difficulties in academical intelligence, which was a major factor that lead him to choose her previous career. Yes, I know psychopaths usually see themselves above the system, but we can't forget they're also humans. Depending on the person, their interpretations of superiority can be widely diverse. Yes, I am aware she can often explain her reasoning and understand the system, but we've seen she does try to find loopholes every now and then without outright disobeying the rules.
-Finally, in the way she fights, even though there's a certain pleasure to it (probably because of the adrenaline of the moment or something), she's very organized and can manage her impulses to work on her favor. I believe psychopaths often train themselves to use their flaws as weapons that they can keep under control.
But of course, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree and present counter arguments.
I mean, I think she would agree that she's a psychopath. Being X saw no reason to grant a reincarnation, except for the possibility of getting a sinner to convert. A normal person might've had some glimmer of faith in their soul, even if they would have had to admit they were wrong about atheism. Plus, I theorize that since Tanyaverse Germany isn't evil from what we the anime audience know, Being X probably saw a perfect champion to give them a fighting chance: a tactically clever psycho who follows rules and is only concerned with getting a cushy desk job someday.
I'm curious about your opinion of the mad scientist who converted, as his reaction to God speaking to him was a direct foil to Tanya's reaction. To refresh your memory, Being X was going to bless Tanya with a miracle, which she rejected rudely. The then-atheist mad scientist received a message from God in a dream, giving him inspiration to try his Type-95 project one last time. After it miraculously worked, the mad scientist became an adamant believer while Tanya now has to pray every time she wants to use the Type-95 as a form of mental conditioning from Being X.
Later on, I think the scientist was the one talking about the world war in a church, and while his observations were similar to Tanya's they came from a place of faith, unlike hers.
I think the mad scientist is meant to show how someone crazy, clever, and stubborn would typically respond to a manifestation of a higher power. This may align with your theory about Tanya being a high-functioning psychopath, if her atypical response can be explained using the symptoms of being a psychopath.
@@jonquilgemstone now that you talked about the scientist...I remember that on the church's window, she appeared to be represented as an archangel who came down to the world to deliver God's justice (which is the exact opposite of what she wants). Personally, I don't judge the scientist for falling for Being X's tricks. After all, gratitude is a hell of a drug. Though, I also recall him saying he feels lost, and you would expect a priest to feel fulfilled. So, all of these factors make me wonder. Why do you think there's an angelic like figure resembling Tanya ? Do you think that's really how Being X started to see her like ? Or, do you think that was whatever it was left of the Empire trying to honor her memory ?
@@JabamiLain Good question! I think Being X essentially killed two birds with one stone by simultaneously punishing Tanya and giving the Empire (which was the one initially being invaded in this universe) the champion it needed. Tanya, much like a real 'demon', wants to rebel against 'God' but can't help falling right into his plans anyway. The Empire probably never finds out Tanya truly does mean it when she insults God, because to use the Type 95 she has to pray aloud in battle. And she lived in a nunnery as an orphan, and she spends time in churches alone.
Also, I took the scientist's "I'm still lost" as a sign that he grew in humility, acknowledging that he isn't perfect and doesn't know everything. A lot of old religious people would say they are still learning/lost because that's what often happens when a person gets more self-aware.
All in all, I think Being X used Tanya for a greater good while also trying to destroy her pride. Everything I mentioned probably led to people thinking Tanya was some kind of saint in the making, or even an angel of death fighting for justice.
The issue of Tanya not believing in God doesn't appear to fall in line with her usual values, since the 'free will' part of her values already answers the existence of evil, and the 'following rules and 'getting a peaceful retirement' aspects of her beliefs would imply she should follow God's rules for a better afterlife. So, the issue of her disbelief seems, to me, to actually boil down to her being extremely prideful. Thus, it would still make sense for a benevolent God to put every measure into making her convert in this final reincarnation, since her lack of belief is a symptom of a truly hopeless soul bound for damnation. And free will would mean that if Tanya doesn't convert, she'll probably choose Hell before accepting God and Heaven for eternity.
This is assuming there is an afterlife after the reincarnations end, which I think is plausible by the fact Being X assessed Tanya before deciding whether or not it was worth reincarnating her.
Now, whether Being X is actually God or not, is something I somehow don't think the series will ever answer. Regardless, I can't bring myself to think of Being X as truly evil yet, since the determination to break Tanya's pride still has a very plausible explanation. However, there is one thing I noticed in Being X's introduction scene: he implied it was beyond his capacity to tend to EVERY human being and their suffering. Being X also had to have a conversation with Tanya before determining there was hope if given one more life to believe. Even then, that approach working seems to be more of a bet on Being X's part than a certainty. If God is omnipotent in this setting, just one of these factors alone should automatically disqualify Being X as God...but since Christianity is not the primary religion in Japan, the idea of a truly unlimited and all-knowing God might not even be something the creator would fully grasp. Not to mention, the whole point of such a concept of divinity is its unfathomable nature; thus, it would be difficult or even impossible to replicate it in fiction.
So Being X COULD be the real God in this fictional universe...
Still, theorizing is only fun if we scour all possibilities, right? So, what would Being X be, if not God? After all, Being X can reincarnate people. Well, a possible explanation would be that Being X is able to essentially transfer people to different bodies *right before* they die, so they technically aren't dead when reincarnating until Being X lets them die for real.
But why? Well, maybe Being X is some kind of demon, or even a powerful being who is widely acknowledged as a deity. We never see any other religions portrayed, except for one more: Christianity.
In the previous world (presumably ours), we know all the religions existing, but in the scene we only see people wearing crosses while the characters talk about faith. In the next world, where Tanya is born as Tanya, we see priests, nuns, and churches...but there's a major difference.
Instead of a crucifix or a tabernacle or even a bare cross, we see an angelic-looking figure which seems to represent Being X. Since the Christian God is never shown as an angel, it is possible the crosses and similarities to Christian aesthetic could be intentionally misleading as to whose--and therefore, what type--of God Being X is claiming to be. Being X specifically cites Earth's population of 7 billion during his introductory scene, but we see him much more involved in that other world which Tanya is born in. Presumably, that world already existed. So, what if Being X was already being worshipped so predominantly in worlds like that one, he simply refers to himself as God? What if he recently gained our world as territory and is starting to make his presence known in it, too? The fact we only see one religion in Tanya's world, but the story begins in our world which has multiple religions, would imply that Being X was involved there and was only now getting involved in our world at the story's beginning.
But then, the question is...IS Being X the real God, even if he's not the Christian God his worshippers' aesthetic looks like? Tanya alludes to "the Father and the Son" in one of her muttered prayers for battle, but Tanya also references other things from our world which the other characters don't recognize. This implies we shouldn't take for granted that everything Tanya says exists in that world.
So, Being X's followers might not even believe in a Trinity. This is reinforced by the fact Being X is portrayed by that angelic-looking statue, and the Tanya-based seraph takes the place typical of the Dove and tongues of fire used to portray the Holy Spirit.
So again I ask: Is Being really supposed to represent the Christian God, or were those crosses in the train scene intentionally misleading? If the latter, then who is he? The real and only God? Or one of multiple gods? Or the Devil in disguise? Oh, but if any demon, then why get a prideful atheist to convert if he'd already be damned anyway? Would he be some type of Japanese demon? Or an extraterrestrial?
What are your thoughts on the matter of who Being X is?
@@jonquilgemstone after reading your text...I don't think Being X is a demon, since demons value unrestrained freedom, which is the exact opposite of the deity's intentions. Regarding the alien part...it could be that. There are scientific theories in the real world claiming that there is a stage in evolution in which a species becomes capable of manipulating the very fabric of reality, and those who believe in that theory say the being we perceive as God may actually be part of a race who already went throught that proccess, with us being the creatures' children.
Also, I actually think Tanya's world was created in a timeline AFTER our world's own end. You know, like a do over. Improve on your project.
But...if Being X wants Tanya to convert this badly and wants her to be the Empire's champion, then why choose this mad dog called Mary Sue as her own champion ? She certainly doesn't do a good job in selling "Join Being X's religion !" shirts. I know I wouldn't have chosen her. She's even worse than Tanya. Way more sinful. She's hypocrite, controlled by wrath and vengeance...
@@jonquilgemstone hello again.
Hey, have you already read this crossover between "Youjo Senki" and "The Last Airbander" (series) ? It's REALLY good ! It's only at the begining, but so far, it's incredibly well written and the characters correspond to their canon counterparts.
It's called "Tanya the Firebender".
"See we didn't comitted war crimes. The Germans started it and so we are justified."
-Probably the Allies at some point during both WWs.
It's not a warcrime if you can nuke the international court house.
It’s only a war crime if it was committed by the side that lost.
I mean America cries about Pearl Harbor but they act like they did nothing wrong when you bring up how they basically used an experimental weapon on 2 major CIVILIAN cities.
@@brandragoon9274 👍 Yes thats america for us XD
@@brandragoon9274 America being America
@@brandragoon9274
Because using nukes is not a war crime. Or to be more precise there's no provision for nuclear weapon for it to be a war crime.
Pearl was a war crime because they started hostilities without declaring war first.
Killing POWs and civilians in occupied territories is a war crime, while wiping out an entire city owned and held by your enemy is not.
Hiroshima is not just a civilian city. It's a city with a military base which makes it a valid target. Nagasaki has a port
If you read the geneva convention you'd realize it really very little is about civilians and their protection and can easily be both abused and loopholed.
Why do you think Japan didn't evacuate their urban centers prior to air raids (and not just nukes)? That's right the civilians you are bleeding your heart out are nothing more than meat shields for the people on their side. You want to complain abut a-bombing Japan, blame Japanese government. They were given a chance to accept Allied terms of surrender before dropping the bomb.
0:43 gives me chills everytime.... I love it
This literally reminds me of a tank quote from a ww2 game where the captain would say "We gave them the chance to surrender... did we?"
It's their own fault for not taking the warning seriously I'll be leaving that room immediately if I heard a little kids speak like that
"Oh, they're using a kid? Well, don't mind if I yeet myself the fuck outta here"
The radio operator, maybe
straight up, i doubt a child would even have radio access like that
@@burritoornot856
It should be common knowledge that the Empire were drafting child soldiers as mages
@@genghiskhan5701 nope, even after the war the government was secretive of Tanya and her real age, and many of the people who knew her refused to comment on her. In fact her entire unit was basically scrubbed from history except in small notes, an considering the mortality rate of anyone who found themselves in her path, with what like 3 people surviving and 2 of them being driven insane by the sheer horror of having to watch their comrades be literally ripped apart by a 10 year old. She was also exceptionally young for being a mage even though mages were forced in at a young age they were still normally wait until they had reached their teenage years(as evidenced by literally every other fresh recruit mage)
even it was joke I will make sure it first
I remember when I first saw this scene. I’d grown so used to Tanya’s gruff manner of speech that this was so out of left field, I couldn’t help but completely lose my shit and burst out in hysterical laughter. Now I really wanna rewatch Youjo Senki. I also need to get the Light Novels.
物語が進んでいくにつれ｢撃てー！｣が｢ｯてー！｣みたいになるのすこ
I love the anime here. You hear Tanya's voice so cute. But the manga is better in how they formed the magic spell and also waited for thirty minutes before firing. Also how the crew didn't want to lose the element of surprise and only Tanya wanted to follow it by the laws. And follow everything by the book. Which is funnier because earlier that day she was getting mad at one of her crewmen for pulling away from a fight because that is what their book on war teaches.
I really try to read the manga, but the illustrations of soldiers as pigs really destroy the immersion of the story, the anime is way more realistic with the depiction of war, even with the magic in it.
@@TheKeyser94 Yeah sure for the most part anime depicted the fighting scenes better than in the manga, but regarding depicting the war strategies, informations, and inner dialogues the manga is far better. It wasn't as if the manga is full of war soldiers depicted as pigs, it's only at least like 5% of the manga majority were depicted well. Besides, the anime skipped and changed the story quite a bit so both had its flaws. Also, I liked the characters art in the manga far better than in the anime.
@@delsgade wait literal pigs?
@@sharmilathube923 in the manga each country had an animal motif, french were pigs, germany wolves and british lions and i forget the others. haven't read that far yet but i would think the pigs would turn into boars later on after the port incident
Other characters: No, killing innocents is horrible!
Tanya: War crime for everyone, war crimes are fun!
To be fair , A warning is a warning.
You can say if there is smoke there is fire. But this one is bomb.
She really put those law degree that she got on her former life
I'm glad I found this anime by chance. Still addicted to this!!
Yup. I'm the same. I've even watched multiple videos reacting to a reaction video another guy made about the show.
"I may be a monster, but even I follow wartime laws."
*proceeds to use a child voice to announce attack*
"What? I said I follow wartime laws. I didn't say if I followed the spirit or the letter."
Rules as written vs Rules as intended
"Hey, I followed the laws. Never said I had to do it to their intentioned use"
It's almost impressive how carefully Tanya sidesteps the Geneva Convention
The entire anime showed they DID follow the law. The Enemy just either didn't believe them or was too stubborn to surrender. I mean in the Trial of Fire episode WHAT DID THEY EXPECT keeping children with them.
Others: we don't wanna commit a war crime
Tanya: I AM THE WAR CRIME
The one of many stuffs about this anime that impressed me was the sounds of explosions, I thought speaker of my device won't survive before the end of season
This is basically when a cutesy streamer gets a tactical nuke
scenes likes this in tanya is the reason why it will always be my favourite anime of all time
So glad this show is getting a second season
I'm just curious as to how her VA managed to pull off such a convincing child's voice.
@Panda Kaede Oh didn't realize you were Japanese
@@Quint_69 Japan has what some would consider an unhealthy obsession with pre-pubescent youth, especially females; this is exploited in their entertainment industry by having women who are of legal age act like they're kids, both in live-action and in anime; basically she just did the female version of falsetto
@@CorvusCorone68 Isn't that exactly like Netflix.
@@Quint_69 yes, because child actor sucks at acting most of the time
The VA's in Japan do a lot of training and go through tough selections in order to make it as VA's since the voice acting market is very competitive there. They are on a whole another level comparing to VA's from other countries, which are generally amateurish or just ppl that happened to "fall" into this job. This particular VA is talented, but most Japan professionals would be able to ace a child/elderly voice as it is almost required that they have large ranges.
I love how tanya kinda blushes as she gives the announcement.
What a small detail, though I understand why
I just love how the explosions are like earrape levels and meme material
This is my favorite scene in the entire anime and is Tanya in a nutshell.
WW3 version
“OwO notices miwitawy factowy, Ewacuate we will nuke this pwace”
Tanya says that she hates the front, and want to the in the rearguard, but always when she in combat or doing something absolutely ruthless, you can hear the glee in her voice.
Why are there only 3 comments below this masterpiece
Edit: nevermind.
Speechless...
*You were saying?* 😁
Just imagine if and when tanya switches to the Allied side along with her Kampfgruppe (or just the 203rd since they're loyal) and she's the one in charge of the trials- oh a lot of brown pants will be seen
"War Time Law is Perfectly Balanced with No Exploits"
Spiffing brit?
@@eizendragon5141 Spiffing brit.
"I will respect the letter of the law."
"And the spirit?"
"..."
その世界で生まれ、育ってきたなら
めっちゃついていきたい上司です
怖いけど
向こうはあなたの事を自分を守らせる肉壁としかみてないんだけどね。
LOL
She KNEW no one would have believe her...till first boom XD
"Technically not a war crime"
Actually it's a yes or no question... then again whoever wins decides who the criminals are. So she better win.
She didn't commit a war crime here. She, the commanding officer, gave fair and legal warning of the attack, and only attacked the facility, then left.
The child soldier question wouldn't be on her, but on whoever approved her recruitment. Though considering her magical talent I would think it wouldn't be an issue really.
can we talk about how war is this big that everyone thought an actual child was joking about blowing up a factory?
"The first AC-130 was introduced in 1968"
Before 1968: 0:57
Imagine the voice of a child warning you before of a nuclear strike... 😂
💀
Meanwhile the guy in the radio booth actually evacuated.
@@math9172 nowhere, but it would be logical. You are in the radio booth and hear a child's voice threatening with death. If the child isn't in there by you, it ain't some prank.
Imaging getting PTSD whenever you hear a little girls voice
That would be pretty Funny and Tragic at the same time
I cant stop laughing whenever I think of this
Funny enough, that sorta happened in one of the manga pages. Some dude woke up after the Norden bomber take down and started screaming while remembering the screams of his companions and the causal conversation Tanya's people were having while killing them.
little girl: "Boom!"
worker: *flashbacks*
Tanya is the only one I'll simp for
You have no idea how many times i rewatch this anime.
Why is this voice so cute though literally like they were not about to blow the living heck out of them
Not made for children. Made by children
Tanya.
「幼女戦記好き」って知らない人に言ったらロリコンって言われた。中身おっさんなのに。。
・・・まぁ知らない人からすれば、そう思っても仕方ないかとwwwwwwwww
そんなあなたに売国機関
ngl the sound production is magnificent
I was so surprised how much I loved this anime. Seriously. Tanya literally just wants to live a quiet easy life. Like getting promoted and doing paperwork. She's dedicated to whatever she does, by whatever means. And she IS EVIL, make no mistake. This is not even about some anti-hero, this is about how the bad guy thinks. It's about how everything is justified, and how people she is fighting against and beside have to figure out what they are doing, i.e. war and slaughter, and how it can possibly correlate with their ethics and morals, all while struggling against nationalist pride.
She's not evil though. Yeah she's got a severely twisted mentality, but a lot of it is a direct result of the situation she's been thrust into. There's a lot of background that the anime didn't adequately adapt from the source material, such as the mental corruption from using the Type 95 Computation Orb, and a lot of the events were glossed over/simplified for the anime production.
Nah with how much she hates commies she can't be that evil.
Tanya: We declare a fair war
Me: DEW IT
The U.S. Military: "Write that down, Write that down!!"
0:43 I love the actress' inflection of glee. It really helps sell that Tanya is a goddamn sociopath.
Note to self, use a kids voice to warn people to commit war crimes for free
Yeah the military needs to hire some VAs and have them make announcements in all sorts of voices that will not be taken seriously.
1 battalion of army : panik
The leader is a loli : kalm
She's a Russian : panik
Visha is an ex Russian aristocrat, her family fled to the empire when the communists took over... XD
i love this scene
1:00 the sound desing was madful in that part
Gotta give credit to the voice actress 'cuz damn, that was a serious boss move back there
Something tells me that I should read/watch this series again.
This is my favorite tooooo! 🥺❤️✨
"We didnt break a law using chemical weapons we used cybernetic bugs that made them feel like they where burning"
Technically correct, the best kind of correct.
This made me cry so much it was way to funny
I see a bunch of comments ranging from "aw so cute o noh bomba" to "you see this is smart bc light novel says".
This isn't a war crime by written law. The offensive party engaged their target after signaling to the involved party(ies) that they were about to strike. The defense didn't listen, and thus cannot persecute a foreign officer for complying with international warfare agreements. The difference between adaptation of the source media is tangential.
Damn, the explosions sfx are really GOOD.
Tanya realises that there is no Geneva Convention
It wasn't shown in the anime, but I'm pretty sure *Surprised Pikachu Face* can be found everywhere down there...
I can imagine someone would actually use that Fiverr coupon to hire a VA to read those specific line in child voice and play them over the radio before starting the war. =3=
She just owns her nickname of fairy of the rhein theatre just damn....a fairy for those she is allied with and a demon for the enemy....
goddamn, I love this show
She obeyed the letter of the law, but not the spirit of it. :-)
It's never a warcrime the first time!
The voice of Okita-san with the war-craving mentality of Nobu
The Best Anime in Fusing Modern Military and Fantasy Magic 💪😎👌 Love this Anime.
Pekora: *Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary.*