Archers are DEAD As we Know It! The MASSIVE Changes coming soon! Rise of Kingdoms
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Archers are never going to be the same with the release of the two mighty heal commanders. Today I will discuss this and where I believe the future for archers is going
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I should clarify this isn’t a good or bad thing happening with archers just something new!
A lot of new changes has been killing this game such as crystal tech, armaments etc. it seems Lilith doesn’t have long-terms plan(backbone plan) to lead players right direction; all changes seems made extemporaneous which relates to their profit rather than priorities the actual fun of game
14:47 the talent tree is only used for primary commanders, and Shajar as a primary will deal skill damage on her active skill. The Skill tree will help with only this , as every other damage she outputs will be True Damage, and will have no correlations with Skill damage and its buffs. With this being said, as a secondary, she might be best paired with Archers with other trees. Defense tree will provide additional tanking and healing options, Support will increase the amount healed, as well as a minor buff to Atk, even Attack Tree (although to a lesser extent) as this will increase the Normal Damage output.
it doesn't even make sense for archers to heal. wtf. Archers are light weight fighters that are supposed to e fragile and travel light on their feet, with sharp arrows that do aoe or mass damage. That makes sense. But, what is this tanky, healing stuff? That is more of a leadership role. This is dum
Sarcasm never fly over my head. I will catch it😂
@pokerchannel6991 but by that logic we should very able to camp archers on a hill and rain death onto infantry without them being able to fight back.
@@Rover200Power No no. we accept certain abstractions: high amount of damage being dealt, somewhat fragile. Those are in the realm of the gut feel of an archer. Somewhat consistent. That we can picture. But, to assign them heavy tanky healing for the whole group is a bridge too far. Let's take your contention to its logical extreme: You say since archers have gone through an abstraction, then lets take away every single bit of logic. Is that your proposal? Then, what is to stop us from just making archer get some wings, flap those wings and fly around and feet never touching the ground. Or Maybe archers have invisibility active skill where they disappear from the map as a defensive stat. The point is: abstractions have some basis in lore. This healing crap and whatever else you want to magically assign fall so far from lore that it breaks the 4th wall and risk taking us out of the suspension of disbelief. And that is bad. All lore has some abstracted logic to it. Otherwise why even call them archers. Just call them disney's magical flying creatures. then.
Archer should have higher damage
Infantry that get all tanky stuff not archer.
It’s strange but then again it’s a game with magic fireballs so as long as the meta remains fairly balanced it’s ok
I wouldn't say the skill archers are dead. I guarantee these Healing Archers will be one offs. We have many representations like this, such as Shandragupta and Sargon, both being debuffing commanders. We also have Normal dmg dealers like Attila and Takeda for cavs, however that's more a Infantry thing mostly. Smite was first introducted with Infantry, but Siege also have this as well, etc.
Point is, I believe these commanders aren't the start of next upcoming Archers, but is just to introduce a new feature, that will be inherited by ALL troop types eventually, especially if they become popular. (I'm thinking possible future commanders like a Smite tree Archer, Mighty Healing Infantry, Poison Dealing Cavalry, Combo-dealing Siege, etc.)
I also think this was done to introduce a tanking commander for Archer mains or Purists (like yourself). Most players aim for Zhuge or Hermann marches as top priority, and now most players will have to think about who to aim for, between a Zhuge/HP or a CY/Shajar March.
Zl herman is like the best trades in kvks , once you have good gear and armements you just be slayer
I think these two new archers are what non-archer main needs🤔
Archers will always be boss, top tier. I'm top6 in my kd this kvk for kills. Big big thx to ZL, Hermann 💪
How can arch be dead, if they are in a better position than the infantry at their lowest moment😅.You get a good garrison and an open field healing , a prototype that answers the many complaints that the archers are too focused,and need more sustain.
No class has suffered more experimentation than the infantry, from commanders like Richard, Martel, Harald, Pacal and Sargon🙈🙉🙊.
You can't see a situation coming where archers are super tanky? Except the new healing archer commander of course 😂😂
They will be the one exception 🤔 just like Liu we get 1 op first and one not
Yea I hope they don’t fully write of skill damage for archers i feel like that’s their specialty. I hope they’re able to incorporate it with true damage some how just like shajar.
I'd say both skill damage and Aoe are archer speciality, losing one is fine
@@WildlifeFAQ well. I think Skill damage should just be given to archers because thats what they are known for. But true damage could be powerful because it basically ignores some stats
Great. Just blasted ZL to 5542 and hermann. Apparently thats kind of a wasted move haha
@@dexo5905 not really tbh. Do you have other marches that would Benifit from their debuffs?
@@zkx2417 yea i got nevsky joan. Could be worse but still. Always a bummer to invest when the game vhanges
I did the same thing bc i had pass4 open and used me heads😭😭@@dexo5905
I just did 5551 Hermann and zhuge just days ago Lol
@@dexo5905you'll be fine
wow archers are turning into the game
I beg to differ on the "nowhere close" part about ZL and Hermann.... You haven't run a LC/Alex, or WW/LC march yet 👀 But you should. I run both LC/Alex and ZL/Hermann, and yeah, no contest. LC/Alex doubles or better them in trades, bro.
Edit: im not exactly sure i understand what you mean after listening a second time 🤔 do you mean like the numbers presented? Or do you mean like ACTUAL damage and debuffs?
Honestly Im not interested in the healing stuff.
They are just making new types of commanders to get people to buy armament bundles and would you look at that, now we can travel for gems hmmm...
excellent presentation. Hi: New archer (al-shara) has AOE healing, right? And that AOE healing drives True damage. So, let's say there is an army (call him Scipio for example) standing next to Al-shara. Scipio get healed by Al-Shara. So, will Scipio deal out true damage base on that healing? Or is the true damage dealt out only by Al-Shara? And take this one step further: If scipio does indeed deal out True damage from the healing, will that true damage be inflicted on a ranged enemy that is hitting scipio? See: I am sige main and I want to hit scipio, in this scenario. But, I am worried that if I hit scipio while he is healed, then I will receive true damage from scipio. That would be bad.
I believe in this scenario, Scipio will receive the healing(and the expertise buffs), but only Shajar will deal the true damage to 1 target; whoever she is attacking. However this question should be asked for Choe Young as he hits 5 targets, but even so for him, its 5 nearby targets.
Simply, JUST FCKNG NO. How did you even conclude that something is possible. That was never the principle of this game, there is nothing in the game that can change what kind of dmg commander deals. I mean, wtf really
@@harisbesirovic2656 even in fantasy, there is a certain logic. But, to have to explain that to you in the first place is a lost cause.
@@pokerchannel6991 hahaha, sure bro. So you say scipio p gona get true damage, nice for him bro, nice 😅
@@harisbesirovic2656 No. I did not say it. I asked it, because unlike you, when I don't know something, I ask questions. GG. But, to have to parse it out for you like this . . . a lost cause. haha
We will see if the 2 new archers are going to be game changing.This round of new commanders isn't amazing...look at Wallace or Emilianus.Good but not amazing.There are commanders way better then them.
🤣❤🙌 I wonder how Cavalry and Leadership will change later. Now All unit types will be unique. There is no longer one choices right?!🧐🤔🤔
Arch formation still pretty universal for now
Not only archers this game also dead 😂
@@lightning2796 far away from dead
this game is not dead and it wont die for a long time
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Another zeroed deadweight😂
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Good luck with your exams bro
Appreciate it
I have 4 inf commanders expertised. Liu, William, Alex and Scipio. How should i pair them (currently i do: William Liu and Scipio Alex) but i hate scipio alex as a combo
I am sure infantry will be easily destroyed by new archery
Archer will be fckd after new cavalry 😂😂😂
Fat YSG is the correct pronunciation 😂
too much drama mini-chisgule
@@bean7750 😂
bruh i started investing in archers and mf makes video about archers are dead
Sadly healing yours teammates give no kp but you help your kindom
Agreed
Nah mate your view is weird why you listen to those who crying that archers are sqishy...... Its dame cav nabbplayers who cry all time as soon their new comanders not op like nevsky was........pointless clickbaiting like wimen magazines calles sarah😂
lucky me that I joined just a month ago xD
True damage can't be buffed
I.e. skill damage buffs or talents won't apply
Strange to give the skill tree the.
Super nice thing all those invested in herman💀
They'll be fine 😂
@@Xander2026 too bad but to zl herman won't be a meta march anymore